Winsor & Newton Drawing Inks

[@JamieSnyderTV]

I love these inks! After trying this set I went out and bought every color at my local art store. Since the shellac is so hard to wash out I use semi-disposable bamboo pens.

[@owingsart]

Jamie Snyder Hi Jamie - Great tip on the bamboo pens. This was my first time trying these inks and I just really enjoy them. What a great product. Thanks for checking out the vid.

[@catherinehascake9173]

I don't draw in ink, but the packaging looks like great addition to collections. Thanks for sharing!

[@owingsart]

Cathrine OAO Yeah, they're pretty cool Cathrine.

[@maryalgar8779]

I like the look of watercolour with pen and ink, so finding the nut brown was nice for certain scenes rather than jet black. Thanks for your demo.

[@owingsart]

Hi Mary - The walnut brown is a great color. :-)

[@vwood2]

Greta review - thanks! I have been tempted to buy these for sketching, so it's great to see the colours, and how they perform with dip pens. Just wanted to add that W&N have two sets of ink. These are shellack based, and are intended for illustration. They are called permanent, but that just means they are waterproof due to the shellack. However, they are NOT lightfast. So they are great for work that will be scanned, or kept away from light, for example, in sketchbooks. The shellack means they can't be used in fountains.........W&N also offer calligraphy inks. These ARE pigmented and lightfast. Because they are water soluble, they're safer on brushes, and can be added to fountain pens (with care). They're also great for ink wash drawings. So both types are great for their intended purpose. For some reason, i can't find the calligraphy inks locally (Nova Scotia), so have to order them on line, which makes them a bit more costly.

[@owingsart]

***** Hi Vicki - Great info and thanks for sharing. I'll have to try those calligraphy inks at some point. I think they'd be good to try, especially for washes. Thanks for checking out the video and taking the time to leave a comment.

[@aremedyproject9569]

Vicki Wood I’m guessing their calligraphy inks are not the thing to use if you want to do a watercolour wash over the ink. Or it may depend on the paper you use, like if it’s cellulose or cotton based as Ive read this might make an ink bond better and be less prone to “lifting” after drying depending on the ink brand/the maker’s formula. I’m really wanting to draw with ink and then do watercolour over the drawing then maybe draw more ink on top of that. This would be on 100% cotton watercolour paper, either hot or cold pressed depending on the project. Arches or Strathmore Series 500. Anyways, I’m interested in hearing your experience with the calligraphy form of the W & N inks. This ink subject does get a little complicated technically. I’d like to avoid shopping and buying inks that won’t work for my stated purpose. I don’t mind (and kinda like) using dip pens, but my working “style” for this project will be rather fast, using a lot of uninterrupted ink, so I’d like to avoid dipping if possible as well. I’m gonna be switching nibs (pens) throughout the work for this project too, but that’s not important to my question I guess. Any experience you could pass on to guide my intention would be much appreciated. Cheers from Ottawa.👍🇨🇦

[@amymclaughlin1201]

Very helpful. I inherited a bunch of dip pens and thought these inks would be fun to play with. I think so. Thanks

[@owingsart]

Hi Amy - Let me know what you think of their inks, I'd be interested in your opinion. ~Marty

[@Craftsworldsocial]

That's not a fountain pen it's a dip pen

[@owingsart]

Hollyistotallycool You're absolutely correct. It is a dip pen and I was incorrectly calling it a fountain pen. Thanks for the correction, much appreciated.

[@mypandapaints5854]

I believe that they are water solvable except for the India ink. Haven't personally used them though. I HAVE hears that if you are planning on using them to paint with, it is a good idea to have a palette with the inks and not to dip the brush into the wells, especially if the brush is going into water inbetween. And apparently the water needs to be distilled because there is a chance for mold to grow in the well if contaminated. I've seen that many people using the dip pens also like to dilute to get a lighter tint for the ink colors for ones such as yellow and orange since they are pretty dark straight from the well. I've always been interested in these drawing inks and glad to see a review up on your channel!

[@owingsart]

My Panda Paints Great tips. I never knew about the distilled water thing, but I guess that makes sense.

[@BitterSweetNitemare]

Great review! I've had this set for awhile and something I noticed was that the shellac in the darker inks, like the violet and the blue, begins to build up over time. I don't know if it was just my set where it did this, but little specs of built up residue is clearly visible when I made washes. Not sure if this will happen to you or not, but it might be something to note!

[@owingsart]

BitterSweetNitemare Okay, I'll have to look for that. I really appreciate the tip and I'll see if I experience the same. Appreciate the tip.

[@Senghe]

BitterSweetNitemare I got a "William" set last week which was the alternate set to these. I had to return them as the shellac in the yellow had sedimented to the point that the ink was opaque and you could see hundreds of little shards of it floating about. The other colours were perfect, but it's put me off getting a replacement set.

[@kimesch9698]

BitterSweetNitemare p

[@NeedartnowFAD]

"The old days"? You are killing me here... I used this as a standard drawing instrument when I first started my career in comics... lol.

[@NoblesseObligedCP]

Need Art Now Yea but they are not a everyday thing standard they are still use but not how they were before.

[@NeedartnowFAD]

***** But "the old days", lol. :) To be honest, I haven't used mine in years now, mostly use brushes now.

[@owingsart]

Need Art Now You might be the oldest person I've ever known. :-)

[@NeedartnowFAD]

Owings Art Now I feel like I was born in the 1800's or something... I better go out and find some more feathers so I can do some more inking. :)

[@owingsart]

Need Art Now Ha! You're only as old as you feel. :-)

[@emilyartful]

Wait, I though fountain pens had the ink stored within them. Aren't these just regular dip pens?

[@emilyartful]

Whoops, someone already commented that. My bad!

[@owingsart]

+Emily Yep, this my error. Thanks Emily. - Marty

[@burstofblue1584]

3:23 That purple colour is absolute perfection 👌👌

[@owingsart]

It's really nice.

[@exequiellopez4024]

Thank you, sir. I like those inks too, lovely colours. Thank you again for your video review.

[@owingsart]

Exequiel López For sure. Thanks for the note.

[@IlSinistero]

great vid as always - thx! after watching the vid I bought me a set of the inks and I really like them :)

[@owingsart]

I hope you like them, they are pretty good. :-)

[@Shannonishere]

Great review Marty. I really like the W&N inks. I've been using them for a couple of years. They were my first shellac based ink. ☺

[@owingsart]

Shannon Sand Do you own other colors as well Shannon?

[@Shannonishere]

Owings Art I have the set of 12 and their gold and silver ink. I really enjoy the winsor and newton inks over all, they are my only shellac (I think that's how it's spelled) inks.

[@owingsart]

Shannon Sand Cool. I want to check out some other inks as well. Thanks Shannon.

[@Shannonishere]

I really like inks I tend to use a lot of acrylic or India inks. I think you would definitely enjoy them. you can do lots of watercolor type techniques with them and they work well on canvas. 😊

[@owingsart]

Shannon Sand I never thought about canvas, I'll have to give that a try Shannon. I have some wooden panels I want to try as well. I've really been enjoying them this week.

[@Adommy00]

just today i ran into these in my local art store and was a little skeptic that it would be as bad as Parker's ink was. Now I actually will get this as I know it is just what I was looking for! :)

[@owingsart]

:-) Hope you like them. ~Marty

[@rosiegrace6253]

hi thank you so much for sharing this video....i have just bought these inks ...can I use them with water colour brushes and if so how do i clean my escoda watercolour brushes kindest regards ☺

[@Liz01749]

Do you find that using normal water causes the ink to split?

[@J_J_44]

Much Gratitude 🙏🏾

[@owingsart]

Sure thing!

[@ThomasFinch-o6k]

Do you need to wet the brush before dipping it into the ink, in other words can you put water into the ink bottle?

[@owingsart]

Yes you need to add ink because this is a dip pen.

[@rachaelthompson4228]

Awesome video! I was wondering what type of tip you are using on your pen and what sort of paper you used? Thanks for your help ^_^

[@owingsart]

Rachael Thompson Thanks Rachael. It's a nib, but I don't know the specific size. I think it's stainless steel.

[@thesameritan9844]

I have one question, are these safe to use with brushes? Ive been using inks for a long time but these contain shellac. I wouldnt use these inks for calligraphy anyway, only watercolor- like. Thx! -btw awesome review!!!

[@thesameritan9844]

Ik you used a brush but I have some moderate to high priced brushes, and I would like to use it since they maintain a veryy sharp point

[@owingsart]

I think if you wash them immediately, you'll be okay. :-)

[@zvonimirtosic6171]

Are these pigmented inks? Or are they dye inks, that will or may alter the colour in time?

[@owingsart]

From the Winsor & Newton website - "...Liquid Indian Ink - a water-based solution of traditional Chinese stick ink".

[@sharonolsen6579]

Thanks for this video ... really informative... :) Answered a lot of my questions but... I have had this one particular question rattling around in my head and have searched the internet But google can't seem to make sense of my question... which is this: I hear people use the terms *India Ink* and also *Indian Ink* ... Is there an actual difference or is it just terminology?

[@owingsart]

I think it's exactly the same thing, just some people say one or other. - Marty

[@sharonolsen6579]

Thanks!!! : D

[@kingtrash9876]

Are they waterproof after they have dried on paper? I've been looking for waterproof ink in variety of colors but i cant seem to find a good fit for what I'm looking for

[@acfawkes]

I have a question. Does de ink need a solvent or something while you are working?. I have problems with dry ink in my pen after a while practicing.

[@owingsart]

+Andrés Ospina Acevedo No solvent necessary. It could be your pen or just bad ink.

[@nullavitasinemusica1]

i was searching a video for these and was directed to your channel haha you own everything haha thanks for the review :-)

[@owingsart]

Ha! Thank you for watching! Welcome to the channel. ~Marty

[@Homerojay79]

Marty I was wondering if you posted scans of your color tests, the videos are great but maybe a scan would show more details. Cheers

[@owingsart]

Thanks for the question. I don't post any scans. My website is all about the Artistic journey and not so much about the Art supplies. Maybe so me day I'll post them on a separate site. Thanks! ~Marty

[@zefypissaki8524]

Hey could we use this type of ink in a regular fountain pen? I mean...I see you using dip-pens but would the ink flow properly in a Lamy Safari for example?

[@owingsart]

Hi Zefy - Yes, I think these work fine in a regular fountain pen, but you MUST clean them out afterward I believe. Otherwise this ink will dry out and clog the tip from what I've heard. Maybe others can verify this. Thank you for the question.

[@zefypissaki8524]

Owings Art well, I'll try it out cause the are so many color choises outhere but it seems a fountain pen kind of blocks this color party :p

[@user-rd8ys9ny6e]

What's the difference between the Henry and William collection? :'(

[@owingsart]

Hi AJ - You know, I'm not sure to be honest. Someone who knows inks better than me could probably answer that question. ~Marty

[@airelavleal9848]

The Winsor& Newton is resisten at the water?

[@owingsart]

I don't remember, but I think so.

[@msfran3]

Hi. Just wondering if once dry does the shellac make them permanent or are they reactive with wet media? Thanks, Anne

[@owingsart]

Anne Elder Hi Anne - I haven't tried that yet, but I will and update you here. I think it might make them permanent, but need to check it out. Thanks!

[@msfran3]

Thanks,

[@Shannonishere]

Anne Elder once dry they're permanent. Just make sure it's totally dry first, I've made that mistake before.

[@msfran3]

Thank you I think I will just have to get a set and have a play!!

[@shreybangera787]

What is the song you use for your intro. Lovely video. Upload more of Caran D`ache, Winsor and Newton, Derwent and Faber Castell And Ethan`s videos too. Tell Ethan Best of Luck. I liked his video a lot.

[@owingsart]

Shreykishore Bangera Hi Shreykishore - That music is from my Apple iMovie software, I think it's called playful. I'll pass on your kind remarks to Ethan. Thank you!

[@shreybangera787]

Owings Art I also have iMovie Thanks. I`ll check it out

[@owingsart]

Shreykishore Bangera Sounds good.

[@mdempsey7128]

I got these for Christmas :)

[@owingsart]

You are in for a lot of fun! ~Marty

[@bluelagoon4]

Good video, but I think that you did not clean the nib before using a clear colour (4:17)...

[@owingsart]

You could be right about that. :-)

[@zekehooper]

do you have to shake the bottles? I got this same ink to try but the red/scarlet seemed really bright, not a deep red like I though?

[@owingsart]

+zekehooper Ahhhh, yes, the colors are a bit strange with ink sometimes. I mix colors without a second thought, so I can make a deeper red by adding a little green to it. If you add too much green, you'll get brown. However because red is a primary color, you'll need a red color to start with. Try a green and let me know what you think. Thanks - Marty

[@zekehooper]

Thanks, I'll try that.

[@owingsart]

zekehooper :-)

[@Fannywikstrom95]

If you're looking for a deeper red to paint with, Winsor and Newton has one in the William Collection of these Drawing Inks called "Deep Red". I have that one and finds it to be quite bright to draw with(at least when drawing fine lines), but deeper and darker to paint with. So that depends on what your looking for. :)

[@owingsart]

Fanny Evelina Wikström Hi Fanny - Thank you very much. I'll check it out. :-) ~Marty

[@rashida2000x]

Are all the colours Indian ink? or is it just the black? :)

[@owingsart]

It's not clear, so I wouldn't assume so. It looks like the other inks are dyes and shellac mixture. ~Marty

[@rashida2000x]

+Owings Art okay thanky you x

[@mascribbleart4059]

Even i bought these sets recently and given review 😊 but in hindi (Indian language) ur explanation was good👍 #MaScribbleart that's my channel 😊

[@listyaariputri]

are those ink waterproof?

[@owingsart]

+Listya Ari They're water-based and I do not think they're waterproof. Thanks - Marty

[@Vektrat]

+Listya Ari Quoted from W&N website: "Our drawing inks are dye-based, fast-drying, water resistant, transparent, and instantly recognisable by their classic packaging. Our calligraphy inks are pigment-based, water-soluble and permanent, perfect for the art of calligraphy."

[@owingsart]

Vektrat "water-resistant" isn't quite the same as waterproof. :-)

[@rickywiegand4678]

👌

[@TheJudeJane]

Shake bottle before using.

[@owingsart]

Yes, I will next time. :-)

[@muskndusk]

In this vid you keep calling the dip pen a fountain pen. If you put these inks into a fountain pen you'll ruin the pen because the ink will block the feed. Thought I should point this out just incase anyone was thinking of filling a fp with these inks.

[@owingsart]

muskndusk You're absolutely right, I kept calling it a fountain pen and it is a dip pen. Thanks for catching that. And thanks for watching as always!

[@snshssjsjs657]

That is not a fountain pen!

[@owingsart]

It's a dip pen and I'm an idiot. :-)

[@FreuerwerkVids]

cruel lettering..

[@owingsart]

cruel or cool? :-)