2022 Legion 5i Pro RTX 3060 -fast as a 140W 3070? +Best Mic Under $60!

[@etienne3108]

That mic really is excellent value for the money. Thanks to the sponsor. Quite impressed with the performance of this Legion, hopefully the price settled at around 1400 when not on sale. Take care and keep em coming 👍👍

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Cheers Etienne! I agree, that mic is awesome. If I do any script only work I will probably use it. Sell my Rode!

[@aidar8154]

@@OWNORDISOWN hello sir. I bought this laptop on ebay for 1100$. It's coming. Can this laptop cost 1100$? Or it is scam? I don't know. Thanks for answer. I am on stress...

[@darrell9616]

Lenovo had some very aggressive holiday sales last year. I would strongly suggest anyone considering this machine to wait until then if possible. When purchased on sale, Lenovo's value proposition is tough to beat.

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Totally. Thats when I bought my Legion 7 for $1699. They also have some good coupons.

[@darrell9616]

@@OWNORDISOWN Same. I was able to get mine down to 1400 after every discount, coupon, and cash back. i7 with 3070. The only thing close was the HP Omen, but the Lenovo was just a bit better. for about the same price.

[@Youssef_Ben_Yedder]

when are the holidays? chrismas? black friday? which holidays 😂

[@darrell9616]

@@Youssef_Ben_Yedder US Black Friday (US Thanksgiving sales).

[@Youssef_Ben_Yedder]

@@darrell9616 gotchu thanks !

[@antxnioo]

I also heard Lenovo uses thermal pads that become thermal paste, so for the first days it may get hotter (will eventually get colder). You will have to change this thermal paste for a long time in the future because of that. Overall, probably the best temperatures you ever gonna see on a budget laptop.

[@OWNORDISOWN]

That's what I thought too. Perhaps they started that with Intel 12th gen because it was regular paste on my 5800H Legion 7 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKqodoCZispqldU

[@soulaesthete8563]

Great review! The web cam is the best I've ever seen for a 720p resolution and the audio was very good too.

[@WarneysWorld]

Great review Stephen! I like the look of that mic! Great little product. That legion is a good bet, looks pretty businesslike. Hate the legion logo. Wish they had a better name for it. CPU performance though 🤩🤩🤩

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Hey Rob! Yeah, I was impressed with that mic for the price. Wish I had bought that instead of my Rode...Legion 5 pro is decent. Wish they had made the power brick smaller. Like Razer did for yours...

[@vmafarah9473]

Great review as always. Im waitiing for along to see you hit 100k.

[@aleksandarkovacevic8851]

Great review Stephen, keep going🥂

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Thanks, appreciate it!

[@ZhierOrreih]

This is the laptop I want the most but it cost 2000-2200$ here in the Philippines the Lenovo 2022 model with 3060.

[@bradmorri]

Did you notice if the GPU ever managed to get to the 140W power limit? I did not notice the gpu pull anything above 130W in the game play in your vid. I have the 2021 5800H/3060 model. I have tried flashing a 140W vbios but the unit still would not boost above 130 for me. so I ended up reverting to stock vbios. I was interesting that in valhalla you were getting same frame rate at 90W as you were at 130W. Not sure how that works unless the game has dynamic settings

[@OWNORDISOWN]

For the most part it hovered 127 to 130w. In BF 2042 it did touch 146W but didn't last long. It did seem to perform the same as the 130W one that is OC by 100Mhz. When I do the live stream ill test out the OC options. Try and get extra performance.

[@bradmorri]

@@OWNORDISOWN I didnt see any real difference running the 140W on my 2021. on the stock vbios the maximum totap system powe envelope seems to be about 155-156W. The GPU will start reducing down from 130W after the 5800H CPU his hitting 25-26W in timespy for example. The 140W bios behaved the same and never went above 130. It look that the gpu was hitting a bios set limit rather that the nvidia vbios limit that I have not yet worked out if it can be tweaked. In my opinion, lenovo should be setting power limits the same as they did with the 3070 models last year. I think they have left them the same as the 2021 3060 models

[@teddym2808]

The 7i is going to have the 12900HX and will be a beast. I realise why there has been such a delay, cause there is no way Lenovo will release their flagship with the most powerful laptop CPU unless they have ironed out the cooling. I am still amazed that with my 2021 Legion 7i, and for some reason unlocked 11800H (not an unlocked processor normally), I can push it to further than stock 11980HK speeds.. 4.6 on all cores doing Cinebench R23 and temps not over 92 (on a cooling pad though). Passes latencymon with flying colours too. I haven't even tried undervolting it as it has never thermal throttled. It is getting me markedly better performance than a 9900K desktop processor at 5GHZ, and that's impressive from a laptop processor at 4.6ghz. I have just made all cores 4.6 rather than have any fluctuation, and disabled speed step with throttlestop. On the other hand my razer is a dog, leaving 28% performance on the table with the same processor compared to the Lenovo. The Razer was also unlocked for the last 6 months, yet after a reboot yesterday the processor is completely locked, all my undervolting and multipliers disabled. No one will answer me at the support forums, and I wonder if they snuck in a microcode update through synapse. In any case, it's now even noisier and hotter than ever. I friggin hate it. I'm going to sell it and make the 7i my travel laptop and general usage and get something new for my main audio workstation/heavy gaming. Yeah a bit OT but I got excited when I saw a Lenovo review LOL - Hopefully the 7i is not far behind. even the 5i is a nice laptop though, for sure!

[@karma9007]

never buy razer laptops, the razer phone was fine tho :)

[@piposarcade]

Great Review Steve, could it compete with the legendary shure sm 58?

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Thanks Luis! I haven't used the Shure sm 58 but I do prefer the Tonor Q9 over my Rode USB NT. That mic would cut out at times. I thought the Q9 sounded great and when you consider you get the boom arm, pop filter and spring arm for $55 I really think its a great deal.

[@rohanleander]

Can't wait to see the Ryzen 7 6800H model.

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Yeah, me too!

[@chael.9662]

Considering to buy this but I'm worried about the battery life in normal usage like video/youtube playback, google, facebook

[@thunderresistant]

It has a decent battery life, no need to worry about it.

[@BruhBruh-mk5yg]

Well its a intel version after all dont expect it to be longer or almost the same than the amd version if you're chasing long battery life i suggest you get the amd version and its is also a little bit cheaper to get than the intel version

[@kasico]

Hi Stephen! those are beautiful laptops, clean and sharp looks, I love it. you were choking that performance with the silent mode xD poor laptop hahaha. Fun to see that the performance isn't that far comparing it with the razer blade, of course, ignoring the screen and some details, but its a huge price difference. Nice unboxing, waiting for that live stream! with rgb bling hahaha. that mic sounded pretty good btw.

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Hey Andres! Yeah, nice laptop. Balanced mode was the perfect setting I think. Totally agree about the mic. Great value at $55!

[@vidfinnx]

Love Lenovo, great review

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Thanks mate! Yes, they have a very good after sales service 👏

[@Saito9IV]

Great review. Just goes to show that at current pricing even if components are getting faster they are basically priced at the next tier from last year... Any thoughts on the omen 16? The new design makes me curious of where it stacks up and it looks like they are using full power gpus this gen.

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Thanks, I agree! I have the Omen 16 Advantage. Bought it ages ago actually, just haven't had time to review it. It ran great though, cool if I recall. I'll get to that one shortly!

[@Saito9IV]

@@OWNORDISOWN the 2022 version or 2021? They modified the design a lot this year with 4 sided venting extra USBc port and moving a lot of the io to the rear

[@OWNORDISOWN]

@@Saito9IV I'm sure I bought it this year, but time has gone by fast. Think it has a 6600m in it.

[@pedik228-n3r]

What do you think about GPU temps? Such temperatures of 83-86 will greatly affect the service life?

[@markfordham3143]

Nice review… may I ask if legion 7 and 5i pro have same display quality and also speakers?

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Thanks! Yes, exactly the same 👍

[@arky9002]

That's one of the highest sustained boosting 3060 laptops I've ever seen.. Waiting for the results eagerly

[@OWNORDISOWN]

I agree! Stay tuned for the live stream

[@ookami-chan3328]

Legion laptops have the best keyboard design imo. Full with numpad and a simple professional look! Even though I'm still leaned toward an Alienware X series for my new laptop, something as simple as keyboard keeps making me look at the new legions.

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Yes, I like them too. I had the Alienware x17R2 and although I really like a mechanical keyboard the secondary functions weren't lit up which is a no go for me.

[@squid4554]

Looking at a gen 7 5i pro 3060 with 1270h or gen 6 5 pro ryzen 7 with 3070 with 5800h for engineering programs like autocad and revit. Both are about the same price, any reccomendations?

[@OWNORDISOWN]

I would be inclined to go with the i7. It is faster than the 5800H. The AMD system would need to have its RAM changed to 1Rx8 because they used to ship with slower 1Rx16. Intel systems seem less affected by this.

[@squid4554]

@@OWNORDISOWN i just found a 5i pro i7 with 3070 for the same price as well. So I think performance wise that would be the best bet. Kinda worried about the battery on the Intel versions though

[@amritanshu7279]

Should I get legion 5i pro 2021(3060)? It's 300$ cheaper than the current gen.

[@OWNORDISOWN]

If your primary use is for gaming then that makes sense, the faster CPU in the 2022 model is better for CPU work like encoding or rendering.

[@amritanshu7279]

@@OWNORDISOWN Is the performance gain in encoding worth the 300$ price bump?

[@OWNORDISOWN]

@@amritanshu7279 I tend to use the CPU when i am rendering my videos as the GPU acceleration seems to create artifacts. A faster CPU saves me a lot of time and is worthwhile to me. I don't know what your workflow is like but I just bought a laptop with a 12800HX and it is twice as fast encoding one video file to another than my 5800H. But for gaming there isn't a huge difference, especially with a 3060 and QHD+ resolution.

[@amritanshu7279]

@@OWNORDISOWN Actually my workload isn't that extensive (programming and Android development) . I just want a laptop which could last 4 years atleast.

[@chaudhari.mayur.b]

Please please compare between legion 5i pro (2022) vs hp omen 16.1 (2022) with same configuration. It would be very helpful, lots of us are wondering which laptop to choose, hp promising quite and high performance where legion has made more robust and solid gaming laptop. We all are confused.

[@OWNORDISOWN]

I do have the 6600m + 5800H HP Omen 16 advantage. Still have to review that one but I have been using it and its good.

[@123Suryasis]

Good cooling by Lenovo to not only giving higher TGP to rtx 3060 but able to maintain it. From the games you've showed, 3060 was running around 130W which was the max power for it in last year and in 99% cases, it was hovering around 110W to 120W mark at best during combined loads. Thanks Steve for the review and the in-depth comparison.

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Thanks Suryasis!

[@luislacuin4083]

great👍❤️

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Thanks!

[@bushesareuseful]

Add a frametime graph to msi afterburner!

[@OWNORDISOWN]

I can do. Thanks for the suggestion!

[@bushesareuseful]

@@OWNORDISOWN Np, I use it all the time. =]

[@S3lix0]

Legion 2022 with 3060 140w beat only legion 2021 with r7 5800h. In sottr i have 140fps avg in 1080p highest settings on i7 11800h and rtx 3070 140w.

[@OWNORDISOWN]

140 fps is very good! 11800H is a great gaming CPU 👍

[@macky10229]

Ill just get the 2021 version performance is just a small difference also its more cheaper

[@sergestar4536]

Well I'll just keep enjoying last years model .

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Yeah, I don't think there is any need to upgrade.

[@TabalugaDragon]

heh, my dream laptop, only I'd buy an AMD version lol. Thanks for the review!

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Thanks Sergey! How are things? I'll give you a call so we can catch up

[@TabalugaDragon]

@@OWNORDISOWN things are good, my vacation starts in July, finally will have some rest from work.

[@OWNORDISOWN]

@@TabalugaDragon have a good holiday my friend!

[@TabalugaDragon]

@@OWNORDISOWN thanks, you too :)

[@pedroewert143]

great presenation - i just wait for the day these companies realize that for a gaming laptop we dont want ports on the right side - thats where my mouse is wildly moving around. Maybe usb, for some wifi/bluetooth dongle but thats it. Plenty of real Headphones come with the large connector - then i have an adapter plug to the mini jack - so i will have maybe 5cm/2 inches of expensive and fragile stuff in the way of my mouse

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Thanks Pedro! I agree with you. I hate wireless mice so I'm always plugging in.

[@MaDDeX93]

It may have be as good as 3070 but it has 2gb less vram which is a shame.

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Yes indeed. I said the very same in the video. Wish they had an 8GB vRAM version.

[@karma9007]

@@OWNORDISOWN Exactly but the trade is the cpu ofc. Intel anyday tho,fcuk battery.

[@karma9007]

Just get yourself the sweet spot i7 12700h with RTX 3070 non ti.

[@tomgjonaj9965]

Just like how my 150w 3070Ti in the X17 R2 beats most 3080 and 3080ti laptops

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Yes indeed!

[@siyzerix]

Thank you intel for disabling undervolting. I am sure its a useless feature to lower temps on laptops, which could really use it. Steven, is there any reason why intel and AMD don't allow undervolting anymore? Do they just want your laptop to overheat? I'd imagine its a useful feature to have for a laptop. Their desktops allow it.

[@ACE112ACE112]

8 lbs with charger oof

[@zay__954]

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