NEW Metabo 18v Brushless Reciprocating/Sabre Saws - SSE 18 LTX BL COMPACT [2021]

[@barttrahan7037]

Talking about the batteries is a good thing I didn't know that about the 10

[@OZToolTalk]

cheers Bart

[@R1CK_54NCH3Z]

I didn't check all the comments, but the small one does have a button on the side that allows multiple shoe adjustments in depth to complete removal of the shoe, giving full access to the blade. If you still have them, as a test can you mark some uni-strut square and see if you can cut it squarely, rest the shoe on the front corner over the mark with the blade pointing at an upward angle, guiding down the vertical side mark and across the top mark, this should trap and guide the blade to cut squarely down the back side of the strut. Who knows? This might give you another feel metric to apply to future sabre saw tests.

[@togu7432]

Hello, everyone I just saw your video and I think it's very nice. I'm from Germany and I have to tell you that the battery on Metabo devices can be easily replaced. You press the button with the heel of the hand in which you hold the device and push the battery forward with the other hand. Very easily. Greetings from Germany.

[@OZToolTalk]

cheers ToGu. Yeah I wouldn't say it HARD, but it is definitely the most complex of all the brands I think.

[@TJsKillarado]

The compact does have a adjustable shoe plate and it can take Jigsaw blades as well as recipro blades

[@OZToolTalk]

Indeed!

[@TheColinputer]

Recip is def one of those tools having something bit more comfortable and less rough as guts pays off. Ive got the original Milwaukee Fuel, aswell as the 18v Makita brushless and the vibration def does get to you after extended use.

[@OZToolTalk]

absolutely....

[@hansvanderhorst20]

Hi, great video. Don't know if somebody already responded, but the way to take the battery of is different then you showed. The idea is that you push the red button with the palm of your hand - that's why they are located just beneath the handle ;-) - And then you can pry the battery out with your other hand. Hope this helps.

[@davetaylor4741]

Haven't tried the full size saw but own the compact. Great saw love it. Metabo batteries. I have had all sorts. Currently have just gone back to the 5.2 standard lithium ones. Old hat so cheap to buy. I have tried the hidride ones but only have one left. The others died very quickly. I did contact Metabo about this and have never had a reply. Hard to remove batteries agree. Same as the Bosch ones as I wrote last week. Tight fitting on the Metabo causes problems in Qld Summer. Several times have gone to change battery on their tools only to find it plastic welded to the case. I have literally had to cut them apart. Solution I came up with is to sand the tool cases down and make a looser fit. Now easier to get battery off and they don't stick. In my opinion the Bosch Procore batteries much better. I flog them all still going strong. The newer Metabo ones nearly all died and quickly. Tools the reverse. Newer Bosch tools very fragile. The Metabo and I have quite a few the only brand I have that none so far have died.

[@OZToolTalk]

wow, thanks for all the feedback Dave!!

[@robertrada6040]

You are not the only one that has had to sand their Metabo’s. Stop by the Mafell Users Forum. You’ll find posts from myself and others about pulling out card scrapers and sandpaper. In those cases, it was to to do with finishing the housing to remove the jaggies, but I am not surprised about the battery issue. On the remaining tools I have, the attachment is beaten up pretty bad. The one brand where I’ve had a similar issue is EGO. The battery has a huge corner missing from melting straight off.

[@noskills9577]

Good review and nice to see metabo have got their act together on these two tools. The compact will get added to my box. Didn’t know they are refusing to stack 3 cells in the batteries - can’t wait to see what happens if they sort that out 😂😂

[@OZToolTalk]

Cheers pal, enjoy!

[@magnusa24]

I love the videos you guys made over all these years, just wanted to add a correction about the compact Metabo saw. It has an adjustable shoe, with the small red button on the left front of the machine. So the shoe is adjustable in the same way as on the bigger Metabo saw.

[@OZToolTalk]

right you are :D

[@sadiporter2966]

There are 24 companies using the CAS battery system, soon to be 25. Most of the companies are building site tools, things like mixers, concrete related tools etc. I wish fein adopted CAS so that we could use their excellent multi-tool without needing their proprietary battery.

[@robertrada6040]

You can get the Supercut and their 4-1/2"/5" grinder from Festool with Festool batteries if that helps. They're literally the only two cordless Festools I still own aside from the T18. :0

[@BurningBroadcast]

Well 2 years along and Fein has adopted the CAS system.

[@nicovandyk3856]

I really don’t get the complaints about the battery locking mechanisms: I love ‘em; I love how well it stuck on

[@OZToolTalk]

yeah guess it's a double edged sword :)

[@ProtosR]

The problem with the 10ah and power delivery is that it's using Samsung 21700 5000mah cells that have a max discharge of 15a and continuous of 10a. Compared to the other brands using 21700 they went for higher output cells ranging from 25 to 35a continuous.but at lower density. Also metabo went for a standard configuration and cooling vs bosch who stacks and also uses copper joiners as a form of heatsink. So the older 5.5ah using 18650s can out out more as it's using high output cells. But for most the 10ah will be a better battery and most Metabo tools don't draw that much power as Metabo know the limitations of their tools and battery systems

[@OZToolTalk]

All Lithium HD batts (including the 5.5Ah) are using 21700s now i believe. THere's no way that the 5.5s are using 18650s.

[@likasumbooodi]

Sorry mate wrong. They are Sony cells and there is no old 5.5ah with 18650 cells only LIHD 21700 cells. Not sure what you mean?

[@cameronryan8684]

Banger video lads!! 🤙🏼🔥

[@OZToolTalk]

Thank you 🙌

[@rxpking]

My Milwaukee saber is a beast!! And the chainsaw is the only one that gets used when we go camping coz the boys love it (secretly)

[@OZToolTalk]

yep Milwaukee are very good at recips

[@pgb9607]

You do not mention that the compact reciprocating saw can be fitted with jig saw blades as well as the usual salzall blades

[@OZToolTalk]

I didn't realise! thats so handy!

[@АндрейРепин-е3с]

Metabo batteries give you following nominal power: 10 Ah 1080 W (60 Amp, 2 rows of 21700 cells) 8 Ah 1440 W (80 Amp, 2 rows of 21700 cells) 5,5 Ah 1620 W (90 Amp, 2 rows of 21700 cells) 4 Ah 720 W (40 Amp, 1 row of 21700 cells) 5,2 Ah 720 W (40 Amp, 2 rows of 18650 cells) 4 Ah 900 W (50 Amp, 2 rows of 18650 cells) 2 Ah 450 W (25 Amp, 1 row of 18650 cells)

[@OZToolTalk]

Awesome info!!!

[@robertrada6040]

Thank you. I was going to swap my 5.5 ah out for the 5,2 since they're more petite, but not now.

[@Giannispri]

Does this affect every cordless tool they make? I have the 125mm BL grinder plus the 400Nm BL impact wrench and use them with the 4Ah Li-HD batteries. Would I see such a big upgrade in power output if I switch to the 5,5Ah?

[@АндрейРепин-е3с]

@@Giannispri It does affect every tool, but some more than the other. Grinder is more power hungry than impact wrench for example. For grinder the difference is much more noticeable.

[@Giannispri]

@@АндрейРепин-е3с Thanx for the immediate reply friend! I knew it by sense from the first time I used the grinder, but couldnt explain it. It felt that it has more to give but doesn't. I'll have to see about correcting that. Otherwise, we are talking about extremely high quality tools.

[@steefco]

I verry much like this review guys. Thank you. Have a nice day

[@likasumbooodi]

Metabo just keeps getting better I have had so much better performance and longevity compared to the red junk I used to have. You learn.

[@OZToolTalk]

Metabo make excellent gear ey?

[@conorfinn7187]

More metabo reviews please 👍

[@OZToolTalk]

We have the new track saw and multi tool in the shed 😁

[@conorfinn7187]

@@OZToolTalk review of the new 18v Sds max when it comes out would be awesome. Thank you both 👍

[@noskills9577]

Forgot.. does the little BL one still take jigsaw blades as well??

[@likasumbooodi]

Yes it does

[@barttrahan7037]

Hey I thought your next one was going to be the Bosch track saw

[@OZToolTalk]

the next BOSCH review ;)

[@RosskillbaneC]

Metabo range L = light Lt = medium range Ltx = industrial range

[@christianness8983]

Is the vibration on the full sized recip better than the Makita 40v? My 40v shakes me to pieces mainly when cutting roots.

[@OZToolTalk]

Haven't tested directly sorry. My memory is that the Hilti and Metabo recip saws had the least vibration I can remember. But Makita is good too...

[@christianness8983]

@@OZToolTalk I discovered this, but the one handed recip saw does have an adjustable shoe. It's a little red button on the left side of the slider housing.

[@Chris-iu5ol]

Just learn the right way to get the battery out I'd say. BECAUSE it is pretty easy!

[@gfi64]

Agree , the battery slide is easier than other tools , once you get the metabo skills , although it is a little different .

[@robertrada6040]

If you think removing the batteries on cordless Metabo stuff is bad; just wait until you have to reassemble them after an on field repair.. 🙄 Chasing little springs around and whanot. The batteries get stuck because there’s a floating fork piece that locks them in and if when you press the button piece it pushes that fork to the left or the right instead of dead straight...

[@OZToolTalk]

Lol, my feeling is that batteries shouldn't be tinkered with in the field! If at all.

[@robertrada6040]

@@OZToolTalk 100% agree. Metabo (and all “CAS” products) have the locking/ejecting bit on the tool itself instead of the battery as you know. So if you have to disassemble the housing for whatever reason (metal shavings on the motor, rocks in the fan), reassembly goes from what should be a simple task to a sort of trapeze act.

[@TJsKillarado]

Love ya work guys but 1 thing u never mention is like festool generally all metabo gear anything this is red (festool green) does a setting change or operates the tool.

[@OZToolTalk]

We sometimes mention it, like in our track saw comparison. But yeah, it's worth mentioning more often probably. Bosch is the same.

[@michael170978]

What Blade would you recommend for a clean PVC cut with the sabre saw?

[@OZToolTalk]

pretty much anything will cut PVC. but you'll get the cleanest cuts with blades with more teeth (and finer teeth). A blade made for thin metal will probably be your best bet.

[@histguy101]

I use a fine thin or med metal jigsaw blade on the sub-compact recip and it cuts nicely.

[@maustinau]

The difference in the battery packs comes down to old ones using 18650 type cells versus 21700 type cells. 21700s are way gutsier, so if you have a choice, always go for packs that contain them. Metabo call them LiHD, DeWalt's are I think Flexvolt Advantage, Bosch call theirs ProCORE 18v etc etc.

[@OZToolTalk]

Some of your facts are rights, some not. But certainly 21700 cells have much higher power output than 18650s.

[@robertrada6040]

The last time Metabo used 18650’s was the ice age, I reckon? Are the ones without the over-molding standard 18650?

[@OZToolTalk]

@@robertrada6040 they older 5.2ah batteries are 18650, anything not sporting the Lithium HD naming I believe.

[@adelarsen9776]

Who makes a full size professional sabre saw in Germany or a good country ??

[@manonamountain]

Wurth.

[@adelarsen9776]

@@manonamountain I will check that out and get back to you.

[@cocazero240]

Huge R/D on 12/18v Platform with metabo/Milwaukee/Bosch and im stuck with Makita and their stupid 40v Platform... Oh my.

[@robertrada6040]

I wouldn't complain. Stalk my youtube replies and you'll notice I always whine and bitch about Metabo/Bosch and praise Makita to the point of probably being an annoyance. Milwaukee is a good platform to be on, but depending on your needs, Makita wins on some tools.

[@jackoneil4164]

BL here means bacon and lettuce.

[@OZToolTalk]

ahhh

[@MERCSEC500]

Metabo is German

[@deanosslewis]

Metabo has merged with hikoki i believe. Same tools essentially.

[@OZToolTalk]

The parent company of Hikoki has purchased Metabo. There is some knowledge sharing between the two (e.g. Metabo now has a triple-anvil impact driver), but most tools are not the same at all.

[@likasumbooodi]

Not same at all mate

[@histguy101]

@@likasumbooodi The Hikoki compact recip is a clone of the Metabo. They presumably have a different motor since the Metabo claims to be brushless and Hikoki doesn't, but they sound identical. Many of the parts are the exact same, including the blade holder(they both use the same part that holds jigsaw blades)blade release, and the shoe. When you hold them both, they feel like identical tools. Both of them really suck compared to the Fuel Hackzall or Bosch one-hand recip due to their tiny stroke length. They really shine cutting conduit, copper pipe, PVC, or basically anything other than wood.