P&S Absolute VS ONR Optimum No Rinse! BATTLE OF THE RINSELESS WASH!!

[@edwaldojunior]

Best comparison ONR vs Absolute ever! Thanks bro!

[@b374mxg]

With ONR it really makes a great wipe down on fabric seats. Works great.

[@Autofaze]

Agreed! It works great on interiors at the standard dilution!

[@MrDroid0518]

Our man Ed Sheehan giving us good insight on cleaning I usually use 914 for the extra cleaning a dirt release from the media. Can't wait to try absolute

[@Autofaze]

It's cool I have a doppelganger 🤣💀! Thanks for watching Joseph! P&S Absolute definitely worth trying!

[@nickherbin8094]

i think it’s something to consider: using towels for the rinseless wash. use it folded in fours, flip after a few passes. you have 8 different sections there, and there is absolutely zero chance for dirt being reintroduced (which is the idea of the two bucket method). and when it gets dirty, squeeze it out and set the towel aside. four or five towels gets the job done.

[@Autofaze]

Good thought, technically the emulsified dirt won't scratch the paint with a wash mitt. I thought it was interesting the Absolute released the material from the wash mitt better. Ive tried using towels for rinsless washing and was not a fan. Thanks for watching Nick! Talking about detailing is fun!

[@adolforeyes4102]

How do y’all clean those towels? Y’all use y’all’s premium plush towels or kirkland apt?

[@nickherbin8094]

@@adolforeyes4102 use a dedicated microfiber towel cleaner, or the cheaper option for my not so nice towels: clear, fragrance and additive free detergent. i use kirkland for the interior work and mostly the rag company elsewhere.

[@mkygod]

I've been using the towel method for all my rinseless washes. But i have to admit that it is annoying having fold it so many times throughout the washes and having to go through like 5 or more per wash. Then having to remember which side you use and then later having to wash them every week. I really want to switch the sponge method, but at the same time i also have a bit of a phobia that not all the dirt will wash off the sponge when i dip it back into the bucket and squeeze it out; and i also have to trust that the ONR or whatever solution is good enough to emulsify the solution so that all the dirt stays at the bottom. I've been looking for a wash method that is the best of both worlds but haven't been able to find it.

[@SSSandhu13]

@@Autofaze Same, using towels made me not want to use a risneless wash method all that often as it always just felt like a hassle. I use the The Black sponge from The Rag Company with the Absolute now and I really like rinseless washing now

[@mattheviewer]

Optimum also offers a ceramic coating friendly version of ONR (orange color, thicker consistency) that seems to work well. Have not tried Absolute yet but will consider it per this video.

[@Autofaze]

I completely forgot that had that! Thanks for watching!

[@jotighe2]

this video is a paid promotion. the new product is a generic copy.

[@Autofaze]

@@jotighe2 LMAO! Dude I bought this from amazon myself. It is a honest review.

[@jeffc6832]

@@jotighe2 maybe try using it before making such an uninformed statement. The only similarities between the two are the dilution ratios and applications. They are completely different chemistry.

[@jotighe2]

@@jeffc6832 I knew you were a P&S employee! gotcha! Like I said, I have had the opposite results. give it a rest, guys.

[@phenixwars1]

Very thorough video. Subbed 👍🏼 Plus I appreciate that you buy stuff at places like Walmart and Amazon like us regular folks and you're not pushing products just doing honest reviews.

[@Autofaze]

Thanks for watching! Just a regular car guy here who loves autos and keeping them clean! Thanks for the sub :)

[@alexpope5327]

Good video, very good comparison. I just came into the Rinse less arena a few months ago and bought Absolute as my first product. I really really like it. I pair it with the Rag Company Ultra black sponge and the gauntlet towels for drying. I also spray down with Beadmaker as a drying aid. I just got a bottle of the Opticoat No rinse (Yellow ONR) and like it as well, it adds protection as part of the process. I do agree, the Absolute does release into the bucket better and the water is dirtier when I dump it out. DIY detail rinse less I just tried as well, it works amazing too. So many awesome options on the market now a days.

[@Autofaze]

I agree with you! rinseless is so fun, I need to try more out! I have never tried the black sponger but I did try the big red sponge back in the day and was not a fan. Appreciate you watching!!!

[@kingsora5377]

Correct me if im wrong.I measured the cap on absolute. It measured 7ml or about 0.25oz so it would take 4caps per 2 gallons so 8 caps for 4 gallons. Vs onr 2 caps per 2 gallons. I even used the ONR cap and it took 2 caps of absolute to fill up half a cap of onr. So I feel like my math was right. I say all this to say, I hope absolute is not trying to stretch their bottle amount by having u guesstimate with filling ending up under diluting. Also this stuff comes out milk white. No blue as you see in all the demo videos. I feel like there is the slightest deception going on .

[@Autofaze]

This is a very interesting hypothesis! Going to have to check this out myself. I was just going off the P&S video instructions for the cap overfill. I do hate that the car is not accurate like ONR ugh. Thanks for checking out the video King!

[@mBaggins]

I bought the P&S as i went to buy another bottle of ONR in the UK and the price has jumped up from £19 to over £45 on Amazon. All the other detailing websites in the UK are out of stock on ONR. Also ONR is using older polymer technology but P&S is using the latest. I do prefer the scent of ONR though. It reminds me of Rainbow dust sweets we used to get here in the UK when i was a child

[@Autofaze]

Rumor has it ONR came out with a updated formula! Thanks for watching

[@PolishedMobileDetailing503]

I’ve used ONR for years. Gave this a try and will only be using it for clay lube , regular washing is much better with optimum in my opinion.- not to mention the thickness is obnoxious and difficult to measure properly.

[@Autofaze]

Those are definitely the major cons. I appreciate you sharing your opinion! Wash wise I felt like the Absolute was a tad slicker and had more glide while washing. It was definitely fun to try both our side by side! Thanks for watching

[@SuperMaxCarp]

According to the chemist PnS rinseless is meant to disperse in water....while ONR desolves in water...hence the little chunks in absolute...eventually they should break down

[@shaytan3067]

Anyone have thoughts on how Mckee's N-914 stacks up? I personally have both Optimum and 914 and I tend to lean towards 914 for RW. Haven’t used either at the other dilution ratios much.

[@Autofaze]

Never tried n-914 but your comment definitely has me curious! Should we do a comparison video on it? If so what should it go up against?!

[@shaytan3067]

@@Autofaze you should definitely give it a try. I’d say obviously put it against both products from this video. Maybe throw in CarPro ECH2O. I never tried ECH20 but I’ve heard good things and they have plenty of amazing products.

[@hayden199516]

N914 is great! So is Wolfgang UBER.

[@j-sonS]

@@hayden199516 my two faves

[@rockhills]

I'm not a big rinseless practioner but if my car isn't too dirty I'll give it a go. Interesting observation about the cleanliness of the mitts btw. I hope you do more testing. I recently tried Absolute and sort of noticed the bucket water wasn't all that filthy afterwards or as dirty as I was expecting. I was using the black sponge. Presoaked the car. The process felt slick and smooth and I even clayed it after, prior to drying, while going along with a spray bottle at the recommended clay dilution. I didn't find it terribly unsafe to fear using it like ONR. I'd recommend it as another option.

[@Autofaze]

love the reply! Thank you for watching Rockhills. Have you tried any other rinseless washes?

[@AyGrip]

128:1 is 1oz per 128oz Easy way to think about dilutions.

[@Jeeper1378]

Has anyone found Absolute to leave a residue if dried? I cleaned my bathroom mirror with Absolute 64:1 and let it streak. It left a residue that wasn’t easily wiped away. ONR/N 914 if i do the same does not. Imo i would use 128:1 when using as a WW.. definitely 128:1 as a QD. The stuff is definitely slick enough.

[@mkygod]

Haven't used mine yet, but I would use it as directed in the bottle for glass at 256:1 and don't let it dry.

[@jayhoughton558]

You might have your dilutions all mixed up. They are right on the bottle. 64:1 is quick detailer. Glass cleaning should be at 256:1. So you were using it 4 times higher strength than recommended.

[@Jeeper1378]

@@jayhoughton558 It was just a test.

[@Autofaze]

Agreed! After it was dried did you try wiping it dry or reapplying Absolute?

[@Jeeper1378]

@@Autofaze dry first and then wet .. it obviously came off. Should of mentioned this but i have used Absolute twice as a RW. Once on my older jeep and my car at 256:1 with no issues. I then used it at 64:1 QD strength for a quick dust detail from sitting in the garage. It was a little smeary … it did not flash away that easily. Thats when i tested on the mirror, to see what was left behind. Imo 64:1 is too high a dilution given the formulation/slickness of the product.

[@chiroguy98]

Nice comparison. I’ve been a rinselesss user for 12 years.

[@Autofaze]

Awesome Aj! Thanks for watching. What is your favorite rinseless wash?

[@chiroguy98]

@@Autofaze I like Wolfgang Uber Rinseless pretty well. ONR is a close second.

[@Autofaze]

@@chiroguy98I'll have to give that a try! I've only tried their soap but I liked it. What do you like about it over ONR?

[@chiroguy98]

@@Autofaze it doesn’t stain your mitt like ONR and it’s more concentrated. 1oz-3 gallons of water.

[@Autofaze]

@@chiroguy98 interesting! Dilutions options for quick detailer too?

[@johnwhisenant3481]

Keep coming out with videos like this

[@Autofaze]

Thanks for watching Jon! Detailing vids in general or comparing 2 products to each other?

[@johnwhisenant3481]

@@Autofaze I love rinseless washing so two of them against each other

[@Autofaze]

@@johnwhisenant3481 We love them too! Any two you want to see go head to head?

[@p4t494]

First, you did not lightly wrist mix Absolute, so you had some chem separation. Absolute is amazing as a complete exterior and interior as you mix it properly with distilled water, yet you can use hard water as it has a softener. Absolute is very slick on application and slick post dry. After a few minutes, Absolute cures more slick. Cleaning my car is very easy: Absolutely easy! Reminder, for clay lube, follow dilution directions. Dirt encapsulates Absolutely well

[@bekiro28]

Brother you need to try Diy details rinsless wash it is the latest and greatest i love it so much i have ONR, Absolute, mc kee's 37 rinsless and finally Diy Details awesome rinsless wash and it crushes the other ones by far it work like magic, as soon as i touch my gold sponge to the bucket of diy rinsless pulls the dirt right away you don't even have to agitated just give it a try you will love it also get a gold or big red sponge please. it's so much more fun doing a rinsless wash with the sponge in stead of mitts also they are far safer.

[@Autofaze]

I need to try Mckee's 37 never have. So far I have been impressed with DIY Detail, I've used a whole bottle lol! I have the orginal big red sponge, used it once and I did not enjoy the experience much. Ive been thinking of getting the upadted one to try! Appreciate you watching!

[@mkygod]

It's possible that more of the dirt is suspended on the absolute bucket and thats why it looks more muddy/dirty. This is where having clear buckets is really handy in trying to compare the dirt and see the line of where it encapsulates. When you're viewing from the top, its hard to see this separation.

[@Autofaze]

I do agree with your comment! One can't argue with the difference in wash mitt cleanliness though! It was a fun test regardless! Appreciate your comment and you watching. I'll need to save up for some clear buckets as you have my curiosity peaked!

[@Jeeper1378]

@@Autofaze you could always take a couple clear glasses when done. Scoop out and compare the two.

[@Autofaze]

That's a good idea, snag a few at the dollar store or something!

[@mkygod]

@@Autofaze ya ive seen some people on the r/AutoDetailing reddit run tests by scooping some out and let it sit in a jar. Haven't seen anyone on youtube do it though.

[@havingtoomuchfun4806]

I rather have dirt that’s emulsified than encapsulated.

[@1209MArky]

I like absolute for washing. But as a glass cleaner or QD it’s not as good as n914 imo.

[@Autofaze]

Do you like n914 over ONR? Thanks for watching Mark!

[@havingtoomuchfun4806]

You need to try DIY Detail Rinseless, it’s slicker, cleans better and smells better too!

[@Autofaze]

Found out about that today. Going to have to order that and get a vehicle dirty to try it out

[@havingtoomuchfun4806]

@@Autofaze you won’t regret it.

[@havingtoomuchfun4806]

@@Autofaze it cleaned my truck much better, and is slick when using it, but doesn’t seem to leave anything on the paint.

[@jeffc6832]

@@havingtoomuchfun4806 anything other than alcohol or distilled water is going to leave something on the paint. All rinseless products leave something behind, but whatever is left by the ones that don't include wax or SIO2 (ONR, N914, Absolute, DIY Rinseless) are easily wiped away by panel wipe or the carrier of whatever LSP you are using).

[@Autofaze]

Got some diy detailer rinseless to try! Should we do a video on the results?

[@Howie3]

Awesome video. Thanks for the upload.

[@Autofaze]

Thanks for watching!

[@albertcarr574]

Just read the dilution ratio on the back of the p&s absolute 1 oz per 2 gallons of water, simple.

[@HoosierDaddyDetailing]

Great video sir... thanks for sharing your opinion 👍🏼

[@Autofaze]

Thank you so much for checking it out!

[@dtna]

Is there a reason why you didn't use a Lake Country or Optimum Big Red Sponge to wipe down your car?

[@Autofaze]

I only have one red sponge and wanted to keep the wash and drying material the same for the comparison! Thanks for watching!

[@hayden199516]

N914 is great, and smells incredible! Give it a try. Also, thanks for the great video!

[@Autofaze]

Thanks for watching! Definitely have to try that one!!

[@scottcampbell4585]

Thanks for the info

[@Autofaze]

Thanks for watching Scott!

[@rheijne95]

Hmmm, Absolute being difficult to mix brings back some memories. Their Rags 2 Riches totally completely clumped up in the bottle and became unusable.

[@Autofaze]

It's the #1 con of Absolute in my opinion. Thanks for watching!

[@jeffc6832]

The R2R gelling didn't affect the performance of it, and was an issue that they identified and have since fixed.

[@AYZEEStudios]

ONR pulled the dirt to the bottom of the bucket it looked like to me

[@Autofaze]

What is your thoughts about the ONR mitt looking dirty and Absolute looking clean?

[@lisaogembo473]

Onr is king, all this other rinseless washes are just copying onr with most of them being made to smell better. When it comes to performance, onr is king.

[@Autofaze]

I'm just as much of a ONR fan as anyone but the results are pretty good for Absolute. Ill always have some ONR on the shelf. Have you tried Absolute?

[@lisaogembo473]

@@Autofaze, I haven't tried it yet but when I saw the p&s lady unveil it, it sounded like they were advertising onr same as mackees which I did try. Maybe I need to try it first ,I'm however not that motivated after watching their unveiling.

[@jeffc6832]

@@lisaogembo473 I have had an almost irrational love for ONR for years, but Absolute is a vast improvement. You really need to try it.

[@lisaogembo473]

@@jeffc6832 , I'll give it a try and report back.

[@jeffc6832]

@@lisaogembo473 I'm curious to know what you think. ONR always has been and always will be great, but Absolute is awesome

[@ernieRUOK]

ONR traps all the dirt on the mitt

[@bruins0808]

ONR and it’s not even close. I didn’t like the consistency of Absolute.

[@Autofaze]

I am a big ONR fan, I heard their new formula is pretty good!

[@jotighe2]

Looking through the comments, I see most viewers are recommending other products rather than using this new junk that is a bad copy of already existing products. buyer beware!

[@Autofaze]

This new product sure gets a lot of hate. I just like trying new products. This was a honest review. Thanks for checking out the channel!

[@jeffc6832]

I've been a dedicated ONR user for over 5 years. None of the other rinseless washes have been able to come close to making me switch (and I've tried pretty much all of them). P&S killed it with this product. It is completely different and performs as good or better than ONR in many aspects. As good as ONR still is, it is based on 20+ year old technology. The main components of Absolute didn't exist 2 years ago. The only similarities between the two are the dilution ratios and the usage types/methods. It checks every box that ONR did, but does them better. The only "negative" aspect I can think of is the 32 ounce cap size and the extra effort needed to fully mix with water. I solved the measurement issue with an extra empty Rags to Riches dosing bottle. And as for the thickness making it harder to mix, that is easily remedied with a few seconds of extra effort or by using warm water.

[@jotighe2]

@@jeffc6832 I have had the opposite results. It sounds like you work for P&S. nice try.

[@jeffc6832]

@@jotighe2 lololol...I design retaining walls for a living and detail my own cars plus a tiny bit of weekend work on the side. I pay full price.

[@jotighe2]

@@jeffc6832 buyer beware!

[@russgrebenc7923]

That’s not a Prius

[@Autofaze]

The black car is a 2016 Prius

[@SecretBachelor]

I thought the beast was getting a wash anyways great video! 😂

[@Autofaze]

Haha! It's to clean for this test! Appreciate you always watching!

[@daarionaharis3675]

I found a No-Rinse for me…

[@Autofaze]

What is it?

[@TheMuseCoffeeco]

Coconut beach versus chemical smell and … “It’s a tie”?????? Already Bias!

[@Autofaze]

LOL I bought both of these with my own money! I wish I could have got payed off LMAO

[@jayhoughton558]

I’ve always found ONR to not release the dirt well especially in microfiber. It looks like absolute does that much better. Nice comparison video!

[@Autofaze]

I normally use the Chenille wash mitt with ONR and never noticed it being that bad. I have the big red sponge, used it once. It always bothered me how dirty is looked after the wash on the sponge and I could never get it clean enough. Thanks for watching!

[@drummerstar1190]

P&S killed ONR

[@Autofaze]

I know, I'm low key upset still lol

[@danlc95]

Good god that car is HOT.

[@Autofaze]

Aye!! Thank you so much :) means the world to me.