"Pacific 231" 1949 movie: Jean Mitry-music: Arthur Honegger original !

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Wouter Van Belle

Wouter Van Belle

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@francommejoel2572
@francommejoel2572 3 жыл бұрын
Fenêtre sur un passé tout proche...qui nous manque...Remarquable documentaire sur la vapeur ! Et quelle bande son !
@jslasher1
@jslasher1 11 жыл бұрын
Possibly the best ever piece of classical music depicting a railway locomotive. It's a classic.
@jimrogers5774
@jimrogers5774 Жыл бұрын
Not as good as the English Coranation Scot!
@simonf8902
@simonf8902 2 жыл бұрын
A hidden gem. With marvelous film and music. The great Andre Chapelon Pacifics.
@TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization
@TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization Жыл бұрын
Me too. I would buy 3.1192 soon.
@dacallp
@dacallp 4 жыл бұрын
this was watched in the 60s in School.. Im in 2020 and have to listen to this
@perplex1299
@perplex1299 4 жыл бұрын
me too
@datuna9989
@datuna9989 4 жыл бұрын
Me too
@Silviu-n1k
@Silviu-n1k 4 жыл бұрын
same :))
@herheartbeats5727
@herheartbeats5727 Жыл бұрын
At least we now have got the Net so that anything happening before (whatever ideological "epoc") cannot be erased for everybody because "The Party" said so !
@Mawexim_HD
@Mawexim_HD 3 ай бұрын
We are listening this now
@petrj7679
@petrj7679 2 жыл бұрын
Beauté technique, beauté musicale, beauté cinématographique ! BRAVO!
@tattaketakeyann
@tattaketakeyann 11 ай бұрын
I don't know why but I watched this so many times as a kid. That was like 12 years ago. And right know 2024 I finally found it.
@staplerpit1
@staplerpit1 7 ай бұрын
Be happy, you can enjoy
@LShackley
@LShackley 14 жыл бұрын
We watched this in music class in the1960s. I could still remember some of the great shots!
@stevenr.schmidt8011
@stevenr.schmidt8011 10 жыл бұрын
A crossing of two of my life loves - trains and symphonic music! Bravo! At Cannes in '49 no less. Think about the cameras they had to hang off the wheels of those trains!!
@ralfschumacher1648
@ralfschumacher1648 3 жыл бұрын
Phantastisch umgesetzt. Die perfekte Pacific für Honeggers Meisterwerk! Großartiges Gesamtkunstwerk!
@MontSteve36
@MontSteve36 12 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this posting. I've not seen this film in oh so many years. We used to watch it at the Twin City Model Railroad Club in Saint Paul. And I had my own copy of it on 16mm sound film. I thought that I would never see again. Again thank you.
@lawrencelewis2592
@lawrencelewis2592 3 жыл бұрын
I was in music class in the 8th grade in about 1967. The teacher played this and called a Pacific 231 " A kind of train." My friend George, also a train buff looked at me and we both raised our eyebrows at our ignoramus of a teacher.
@michelp.vanwelkenhuyzen2623
@michelp.vanwelkenhuyzen2623 5 жыл бұрын
Extraordinaires prises de vue !
@algo3766
@algo3766 8 жыл бұрын
Les caméras "embarquées" sont très efficaces et pour l'époque ce devait être un véritable challenge. Reste l'incomparable musique d'Honneger, magistrale !
@jefflpanther
@jefflpanther 5 жыл бұрын
“Stanley said Pacific 231 was one of the most perfectly edited, if not the most perfectly edited films, he had ever seen. Not only that but also the way Mitry melded the cutting with Honegger’s music. He thought it was a knockout. “I’d seen the film just before going to work for Stanley and was always going on about it. He wanted to see it and I borrowed a 16mm print from the BFI.” - Anthony Frewin, assistant to Kubrick
@paulcaswell2813
@paulcaswell2813 2 жыл бұрын
Even without the spectacular music, this film contains the finest footage of the great 231E that I've seen anywhere.
@TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization
@TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization Жыл бұрын
2 are now saved for posterity. It's actually a Nord Chapelon Pacific @Paul Caswell.
@palomino73
@palomino73 11 жыл бұрын
A masterpiece in the arts of film and music; sheer drama on rails - womderful ! I hope I find it with a better sound-quality though... Thanks a lot for posting this gem !
@timrichards6997
@timrichards6997 4 жыл бұрын
A great film, fantastic locomotives and the music is fab
@EwoutBezemer
@EwoutBezemer 6 ай бұрын
fantastische film, fantastische muziek, dank!
@EwoutBezemer
@EwoutBezemer 6 ай бұрын
One of the most fascinatiing pieces of music, inspired by one of the best steam locomotives. Thanks!
@johnandmarylouwilde7882
@johnandmarylouwilde7882 3 жыл бұрын
I was studying at the Alliance Francaise in Paris when Honneger died. TV news played this film as a tribute.
@jean-marcaudirac2329
@jean-marcaudirac2329 5 жыл бұрын
Dommage qu' il n' y ait pas plus de commentaires en français... Ce qui dénote un intérêt manifeste de ceux qui le parlent pour la chose ferroviaire ! Ceci-dit, je suis tombé sur ce bijoux par hasard, n' étant pas un fan de vidéos... Superbe !
@jeangabin2047
@jeangabin2047 5 жыл бұрын
C quoi. Un film ou un documentaire
@xxxItchyxxx
@xxxItchyxxx 12 жыл бұрын
Great! Großartig! Magnifique! :) Tolle visuelle Umsetzung der Musik, kongeniale Leistung! Bin ganz begeistert. Vor allem die Filmtechnik, Kamera und Schnitt, super gemacht! Danke für's Hochladen!
@MGDriver99
@MGDriver99 14 жыл бұрын
The Old Man told me about this years ago. What an utterly fantastic piece of cinema.
@NorbertRoll
@NorbertRoll 7 жыл бұрын
Simply wonderful.
@marcdelente2456
@marcdelente2456 3 жыл бұрын
La pacific 231 la plus belle locomotive du monde la plus performante a tracter les trains de légende. La 231 un chef d oeuvre sur rail c etait le rêve de tout mecaniciens et chauffeurs titulaires de la conduire .
@alannair44
@alannair44 3 жыл бұрын
AMAZING editing!
@marcdelente2456
@marcdelente2456 5 ай бұрын
Je suis fière quand je voi cette magnifique locomotive pas n importe la qu'elle la pacific 231 mon grand père maternel était mécanicien sur cette locomotives de légende. Une pensé pour lui grand homme il parlait de ça divine avec passion . Respects à tout ces grands cheminots qui aimaient leurs métiers et l heure c était l heure.
@ferrochinabisleri1587
@ferrochinabisleri1587 3 жыл бұрын
Very impressive!
@renecapron920
@renecapron920 2 жыл бұрын
qu'elles belles prises de vues pour cette loco bravo et le musique vas bien avec
@Kouyanski
@Kouyanski 5 жыл бұрын
Des machines et des hommes qui ne sont maintenant plus de ce monde. Nostalgie.
@bloodyhell8201
@bloodyhell8201 3 жыл бұрын
Hon hon oui oui baguette
@christineamat1589
@christineamat1589 2 жыл бұрын
Magnifique!!!
@arvensaunders8052
@arvensaunders8052 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Amazing, fantastic, marvellous TECHNOLOGY! Yes, but from where we are today, crude- and irresponsible in where we reach for energy to power our movement of people and freight. Marvellous technology for that time!
@josemanuelballesterosperalta
@josemanuelballesterosperalta 11 жыл бұрын
Excelente video de la composición del poema sinfónico de Honegger (año, 1923) y llevada a la pantalla años después. Gracias a Wouter Van Belle por subir este excelente video.
@MewenWsh
@MewenWsh 9 жыл бұрын
+José Manuel Ballesteros Peralta t ez mek
@armandssurins3364
@armandssurins3364 2 жыл бұрын
A.Honegger : 2:40 !
@necistakrv
@necistakrv 12 жыл бұрын
wooooooooow!!!!! this is amazing!!! the best interpretation ever!!!
@esajuhanirintamaki965
@esajuhanirintamaki965 2 жыл бұрын
Wunderschön! Wie ich die Dampflokomotiven liebe!!!
@rodneygreenberg3840
@rodneygreenberg3840 9 жыл бұрын
The original mono soundtrack has only been recorded on the left-hand audio channel. Would have twice the impact on stereo speakers if it been dubbed also to the right channel, which is silent. Switch your stereo playback to "mono" when viewing to get the full effect.
@justin10347
@justin10347 14 жыл бұрын
It's a great song love it
@schaerffenberg
@schaerffenberg 5 жыл бұрын
The last time I saw this was as a freshman in a music appreciation class at Southern Illinois University, 1962 or '63. "Pacific 231" is probably the most literal musical composition ever written. As an experiment, the piece should be heard by someone who has never encountered it before and knows nothing about it: what would such a person make of this work?
@philippejenvrin2741
@philippejenvrin2741 2 жыл бұрын
Elle se déplacer à 120 km/h de moyenne ! Impressionnantes images et musique appropriée !!
@herheartbeats5727
@herheartbeats5727 Жыл бұрын
Si la 231 originale avait déjà cette performance, alors c'était tout à son honneur ! Le modèle revu par Chapelon, a du être BRIDE (!!!) à 130 km/h...parce que c'était la vitesse maximale des lignes de la SNCF à l'époque. Plusieurs modèles de record/d'essai ont dépassé les 200 km/h.
10 жыл бұрын
Otro emblemático ejemplo de música descriptiva en el siglo XX y muy bello acompañamiento visual.
@dad9447
@dad9447 10 жыл бұрын
Es una gran producción para una música muy buena!!!
@websupervisor708
@websupervisor708 6 жыл бұрын
Filmé dune façon très moderne, j'aime ce montage très dynamique, sans paroles ni commentaires, rythmé par la musique. Pas étonné de cette récompense.
@staplerpit1
@staplerpit1 3 жыл бұрын
Great, the end with the breathing of the locomotive`s air pump...it seems to belong to the movie!
@sandhillguy
@sandhillguy 12 жыл бұрын
This piece is mentioned in Dr. Oliver Sachs' book "Musicophilia" about the neurology and psychology of music.
@tomumholtzsr2529
@tomumholtzsr2529 Жыл бұрын
I think this is the best presentation of this iconic video. For context, try reading Stephen Spender's 1939 poem "The Express" just before watching the film. At about 2:30 min, you can hear/see/feel the first lines of the poem but, after that, Honegger and Mitry are on their own and not trying in any way to follow "The Express. And yet, at the very end, the two seem to come back together - in repose. I imagine most people who read this know that "231" is the European way of designating the locomotive classes. They just count the axles and not the wheels so a 2-3-1 over there is a 4-6-2 here. One of the nicest 4-6-2's in operation today is number 425 of the Reading, Blue Mountain, and Northern. It's called a "light" Pacific which means that it was designed from the outset for passenger work. Check it out.
@durandjeanpierreQ7v6
@durandjeanpierreQ7v6 10 жыл бұрын
Souvenirs,souvenirs.J'avais 6 ans.
@srothbardt
@srothbardt 2 жыл бұрын
Good film. Interesting.
@fairjana
@fairjana 4 жыл бұрын
2020г. карантин и дистанционное обучение,задание по музыке привет)
@WBDE
@WBDE Жыл бұрын
I have been privileged to have worked with steam locomotives and I believe that others like me realize and understand how these machines take on a life and personality all their own. The makers of this film also have that understanding and have married their film and this outstanding accompanying music to share with us the beauty and strength of these machines.
@pet0002
@pet0002 10 жыл бұрын
Merveilleux!
@MewenWsh
@MewenWsh 9 жыл бұрын
+Pierre Bouchard ta gueule
@noah.8635
@noah.8635 9 жыл бұрын
tg
@noah.8635
@noah.8635 9 жыл бұрын
+AXTYR tg
@chen1784
@chen1784 9 жыл бұрын
+noah posay ptn noah t'as pas vie..
@noah.8635
@noah.8635 9 жыл бұрын
+Jean prd lol
@adrianpucek5695
@adrianpucek5695 2 жыл бұрын
Super song
@javierdominguezorellana9101
@javierdominguezorellana9101 12 жыл бұрын
And the oscar goes to... The train. :/
@lucdevriese718
@lucdevriese718 5 жыл бұрын
L'ambiance ! 🚂
@farafim
@farafim 12 жыл бұрын
un déni générique!
@sangeovr
@sangeovr 3 жыл бұрын
This is definitely one of the movies of all time
@charles.j.mandon5602
@charles.j.mandon5602 5 жыл бұрын
Just think everything we just saw in that film is gone now ,scrapped ,tore down ,changed somehow or deceased and time moves on ,,pretty soon we will all be gone .
@bloodyhell8201
@bloodyhell8201 3 жыл бұрын
Which yet survives Stamped on these lifeless things
@AliAli-md1co
@AliAli-md1co 5 жыл бұрын
Im 98 Yers old
@yanvar1960
@yanvar1960 10 жыл бұрын
Great !
@blazelm2639
@blazelm2639 9 жыл бұрын
+A. Penkina tg t ez
@xaviertruphemus291
@xaviertruphemus291 5 жыл бұрын
magnifique
@pablocramer9669
@pablocramer9669 11 жыл бұрын
As far as I remember it's : L'orchestre de la Suisse Romande.
@iamkwk
@iamkwk 11 жыл бұрын
I have always thought that the title referred to a Pacific series 231 (or 462) locomotive. not any particular engine. Honegger wriote the music in 1923 and Pacific series locomotives were very common all over the world
@hugoslr
@hugoslr Жыл бұрын
Indeed, but from Mitry's standpoint the best representation of pacifics he had were these
@TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization
@TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization Жыл бұрын
I'm Using this for the memorabilia video.
@hosdo
@hosdo 4 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or one of the main riffs sound like a 2-3-1 wheel arrangement passing over an unequal rail joint...
@xyoh4nnx
@xyoh4nnx 11 жыл бұрын
cool
@BrianMonroe7890
@BrianMonroe7890 13 жыл бұрын
First of all, Leonard Bernstein's rather curious rendition of Roy Harris Third Symphony makes him a questionable yardstick for authenticity of performance. Second, this IS the score (buy it - I did) - it is just that in order to fill out some additional time, some sections are repeated twice over. Finally - Honneger conducts this film (read the credits). He obviously wrote the changes into the score himself or approved them. It doesn't matter if it doesn't follow the published version.
@dsinnn
@dsinnn 12 жыл бұрын
Gives a feeling of motion. Enough to throw up.
@dacallp
@dacallp 4 жыл бұрын
i only hear it on the left tho :/
@pierrequideau9579
@pierrequideau9579 9 жыл бұрын
A une époque où prendre le train faisait rêver !
@MewenWsh
@MewenWsh 9 жыл бұрын
+Pierre Quideau tg t ez
@herheartbeats5727
@herheartbeats5727 Жыл бұрын
Je me rappelle encore les déplacements matinaux vers le lycée (il y a bientôt 30 ans !) à l'époque les gares françaises n'étaient pas encore devenues une espèce de terrain de chasse pour fous adeptes du film "Birds of Prey" (pertes humaines incluses) et le spectacle le plus impressionnant étant de voir les BB diesels se "réveiller" en crachant le feu telles des dragons que même les effets spéciaux actuels n'arriveraient pas à simuler...UNE HEURE pour le départ d'une loco vers l'arrimage d'un train (heure pendant laquelle elle reniflait, crachait, criait, hurlait, et "lance-flamait" tout son content, bien sur)
@iamkwk
@iamkwk 11 жыл бұрын
You are correct. I should have said the largest mass produced locomotive.
@NeuroActing
@NeuroActing 8 ай бұрын
I wonder if John Williams had seen this film before a young Steven Spielberg asked him to score a film about a shark…
@TheOntguy
@TheOntguy 12 жыл бұрын
manifique!
@bupindersingh7592
@bupindersingh7592 5 жыл бұрын
Why I watch this till the end ? But enjoyed
@roberacevedo8232
@roberacevedo8232 4 жыл бұрын
Because of the music? Pacific 231 was a huge success and inspired Prokofiev to do his symphony 2
@TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization
@TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization Жыл бұрын
In Flik's Musical Adventure At Disney's Animal Kingdom, scene 3:15 - 3:17 is shown.
@Anabiatrix1
@Anabiatrix1 10 жыл бұрын
Could anyone tell me how can I find Mitry's film called 'Images pour Debusy'?? Was it lost or does it still exists?
@Zenil_arts
@Zenil_arts 4 жыл бұрын
Metric montage or ritmic?
@musicianinseattle
@musicianinseattle Жыл бұрын
I wish the audio could be remastered…the music is a half-step too high.
@TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization
@TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization Жыл бұрын
I'll put the credit of this video.
@RhythmAddictedState
@RhythmAddictedState 12 жыл бұрын
2:45 Lil' shortcut to the music! :)
@kitchenjail3546
@kitchenjail3546 4 жыл бұрын
2:45
@Pershingtank
@Pershingtank 11 жыл бұрын
Looks like a Paris-Orleans 3500 rebuilt by Chapelon.
@TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization
@TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization Жыл бұрын
It's actually a Nord Pacific. The bad news is that this one's scrapped. The good thing is that 2 survived.
@bobmao7848
@bobmao7848 4 жыл бұрын
Le film me donne le tournis, mais la 231 était elle si bien que ça ? Je pense plutôt à un film publicitaire.
@hugoslr
@hugoslr 3 жыл бұрын
les 231 E étaient en effet de très bonnes machines, et les meilleures Pacific que la France a connu.
@iamkwk
@iamkwk 11 жыл бұрын
The Pacific 231 (or 462 as it is known here in the U.S. ) was the largest locomotive built.
@bobbybobby7943
@bobbybobby7943 6 жыл бұрын
The Big Boy, the 241, the Chapelon 242 A1 were all bigger.
@robinpierre4167
@robinpierre4167 6 жыл бұрын
L'antécédent "classique" au Trans Europe Express de Kraftwerk, en somme...
@drabcoat
@drabcoat 11 жыл бұрын
OK, the shots of the trains are great, but what happened to the goddam music?
@thebadger7373
@thebadger7373 11 жыл бұрын
Mr Hunter, If you get this will you please reply. Only here, and do not tag me with the REPLY feature or the + because I assure you I will find the post. I made a new circle and called it 'Questioning Minds' and checked only you in it to ward off, as you put it, "Keystone Kops" ""You seem to have attached yourself to them to attain some sad and illusory kudos. Like someone who is proud of being a member of the Keystone Kops.""
@343kaka
@343kaka 13 жыл бұрын
@JessicaFaerosi Well, B is for Bad.
@pdxrailtransit
@pdxrailtransit 12 жыл бұрын
I think I need a cigarette ;)
@annaokulowska5257
@annaokulowska5257 7 жыл бұрын
6:30
@cl1mz980
@cl1mz980 4 жыл бұрын
hello bvsk
@dieAmondchoppoon
@dieAmondchoppoon 3 жыл бұрын
@michelcuvillier7738
@michelcuvillier7738 5 жыл бұрын
Félicitations pour ce super reportage , c'était un rapide Paris Lille ?
@Pershingtank
@Pershingtank 11 жыл бұрын
Unless it's Nord.
@hugoslr
@hugoslr 3 жыл бұрын
they both are the same type of locomotive, yes.
@TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization
@TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization Жыл бұрын
@@hugoslr Yep. This one shown did not run away from the cutter's torch. Meanwhile, it's 2 siblings 3.1192 & 3.1123 escaped the yard being preserved. 😃
@br39161
@br39161 10 жыл бұрын
Music for psycho trailer , poor Pacific ...
@TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization
@TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization Жыл бұрын
Now scrapped.
@artsav22
@artsav22 8 жыл бұрын
2:41
@ggc8630
@ggc8630 4 жыл бұрын
@Oranienschule
@nobuoka401
@nobuoka401 13 жыл бұрын
appear nosebleed
@Majornou
@Majornou 12 жыл бұрын
Preciós
@이현혜-r3v
@이현혜-r3v 4 жыл бұрын
님들아 한국인 댓 못 찾음? 저도 못찾음
@hyehyei_n
@hyehyei_n 4 жыл бұрын
전 님 찾음
@stylusfantasticus
@stylusfantasticus 15 жыл бұрын
The film is ten times better than the music which has no shape at all and forces the movie to reach an abrupt end.
@francoiseconan6234
@francoiseconan6234 Жыл бұрын
Cela ne nous rajeunit pas Petite j ai voyage dans ces trains a vapeur Quand la grosse machine arrivait je me cachais dans la robe de ma mère bisoùs Bisous😅
@rextv4625
@rextv4625 3 жыл бұрын
Deutschland
@Johngalli.A
@Johngalli.A 5 жыл бұрын
Diese sehr schön oh yeah nahui
@crymore420
@crymore420 4 жыл бұрын
yo ... the audio is bad
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