Pacific Rim 2: The One We Agreed To Never Mention Again

[@RSG_TheMonster]

I love that the Jaegers were created to prevent Kaijus from destroying cities, yet the Jaegers themselves use the city to defeat the Kaijus!

[@o.v.m._part_1]

Yeah good point

[@JoeThePotato23]

Potatoes

[@cursedtails1249]

Fr. This movie completely missed the purpose of the Jaegers

[@pizzalock1760]

Ya you can tell they didn't really much research or care about it but only thought it was just another mech vs alien thing

[@DOSFS]

I mean... you can argue that if using the city you can defeat Kaiju faster = less damage overall But still---- yeah

[@GoldRaven-oe4by]

Honestly it would have been cooler to see a prequel. Seeing how difficult it was to kill the kaiju by conventional means until humanity built the first mk1 jagers

[@RandomPerson-tz7wk]

It's called the godzilla series. 🤣

[@Thatbrownguy-ce5vt]

@@RandomPerson-tz7wklmao

[@VictorIV0310]

There’s a prequel comic for that but I assume you mean something in live action form.

[@thien0300]

Imagine Cherno Alpha in it full glory wailing on first gen Kaiju while taking no damage due to it's thick Armor.

[@carlosrincon6017]

Agree 100%, Del Toro encapsulated the backstory masterfully in the intro of the original movie, he left great material to work on.

[@ygitor]

To be fair, a corporation barely acknowledging their mistake and distancing themself from the scapegoat and expecting everyone to forget it, is completely accurate

[@motherurck7542]

Also the CCP way too.

[@concept5631]

​@@motherurck7542yep

[@KABLAMMATS]

2 things I know from China's media (game or movie) its just the spectacle first, and substance later, and a lot of idea "borrowed" from other lol

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

Seriously though why couldn’t that CEO lady just be the villain, evil corporations are one of the oldest Hollywood tropes in the book and this movie couldn’t even get that right

[@Jofe000]

​@@halfmettlealchemist8076 Because it's a chinese company on a chinese produced movie. China is almost never the bad guy in these cases. The only way it can be the bad guy is having an scenario of good China (communist China) fighting bad China (not communist China)

[@Chronoplague]

I remember watching this the theater and thinking, "huh, they killed the only Japanese character and now a Chinese business is saving the day on Mt. Fuji. I can only imagine who is funding this movie..."

[@mkultra2456]

It was the Germans. Or so the Germans would have you believe.

[@modern-synthesis]

We live in a disgusting world...

[@BeastyBite]

the movie is not funded by china, it's a 100% american production. by that logic every major american brand is chinese because foreign investors buy or invest companies in the west. every major global conflict hollywood visualized is heavy, western nationalistic, imperialistic propaganda. call of duty is even funded by the american military. yet you fail to recognize it in your own culture... hmmm interesting, I'm wondering how we call this type of behavior....

[@mrscruffles801]

@@modern-synthesis CHY-NA!

[@samattox2]

I always thought a prequel would’ve worked better than a sequel. Would’ve been cool to see the height of the Jaeger program and all the other Jaegers.

[@dylannix4289]

People always underestimate the value of good prequel stories. Just look at Star Wars and how many amazing stories from ancient times they’re just neglecting in favor of their idiotic new canon

[@Nukefandango]

Absolutely agree. I want to see combined arms battles of simplistic, primitive jaegars fighting Kaiju alongside tanks, artillery, etc.

[@marvelstarwarsfan8410]

Yeah I agree,I think seeing how humanity inexperience angainst kaiju would be interesting and to see the mechs develop.

[@rushi5638]

@@dylannix4289 This was a BOLD and easily misinterpreted comment. I mean "good prequel stories" and "Star Wars" in the same sentence? Woof. But no, I know: the Old Republic era is *so* fucking rife with content potential. You're 100% correct. Damn though lmao. You had me in the first half, ngl. EDIT: Although honestly, Old Republic is less "prequel" territory and more "trust me bro it's the same setting" - any attempt to connect it to modern canon would be incredibly awkward. It's kind of disconnected from mainstream Star Wars film canon in a way that nothing else really is. That said, Rogue One definitely shows the potential for a genuine prequel in this setting, even if the prequel *_trilogy_* was a massive letdown.

[@dylannix4289]

@@rushi5638 Hmm. Yeah I probably should’ve used Rogue One as my example to minimize possible confusion or misinterpretation, huh Though I will say. The current SW Prequels have their own kind of idiotic nostalgia laden charm. But I personally still hate them for ruining my boy Grievous like that nonetheless. That was unmistakably out of pocket

[@joelyt1682]

I like how Idris Elba's character was a great father figure to Mako then we just find out that he has a son he disowned lol

[@Chewberto]

Come to think of it, that could've made for a decent character motivation in the movie. It would make sense for John Boyega's character to have some degree of jealous resentment towards Mako for getting his dad's affection, so there'd probably be some degree of tension between the two of them. You could have them butting heads, with Mako being a no-nonsense commander similar to Elba's character in the previous movie, whereas Pentecost would be more of a renegade. Have them air out their grievances more and more to each other, gradually coming to terms with their own personal flaws. Since the two of them are basically the only veteran Jaeger pilots remaining, they could be forced by circumstance to pair up and overcome their differences, which would be a nice opportunity to show what happens when two Jaeger pilots aren't fully drift compatible, which could lead to the climax in which the two of them drift together perfectly and fight the final battle.

[@RandomPerson-tz7wk]

@@Chewberto Bruh, we do know what happen to non compatible. The jaeger doesn't move and that's pretty much the sub plot of the first movie. Its better to cut out all the teens actors. Replace the machanic girl with boyega. Where mid movie he gets to make his own jaeger from brokens one with the org backing. In the end there be two jaeger fighting kaiju, one clean standard design like previous movie and the another "abomination" of parts that is somehow working.

[@Chewberto]

@@RandomPerson-tz7wk in the first movie, the scene where Mako and whats-his-face (I forgot the main character's name and I'm too lazy to look it up) drift for the first time, it goes wrong but Mako is still able to control the Jaeger and almost kills everyone as a result. That was just from her "going down the rabbit hole" and getting lost from her partner in her memories, so really only a taste of what can go wrong during a bad drift. It leaves plenty of room for creativity in depicting a drift where the two pilots actively hold animosity towards each other (as would be the case in the hypothetical story I outlined).

[@RandomPerson-tz7wk]

@@Chewberto Yeah, they explain that it's possible for one person to control half of a jaeger (arm) but need two to mimic brain for the whole body. And there's not much room for creative. Unlike mako and that guy past. Both include kaiju related incident. It could be interesting if they rewrite boyega as elba lost his family during a kaiju attack before and his kid was assume dead. Elba didn't spend time with his family because of the whole crisis. So his kid barely see him and mostly remember his mom. When the kaiju attack. He was too young to remember or the experience was too traumatic he block it in his memory. Or any other Hollywood memory troop. Like mom killed saving their kid. Explaining why elba adopt mako not long after that. As a suprise plot twist, he discovered who his father was and what happen to him. Rather than getting kick out from school in the movie.

[@madensmith7014]

@@RandomPerson-tz7wk They could just patch up the incompatibility issue with technological progress over the years. A jaeger could now work even with unsynced pilots, but not at top efficiency. It's plausible considering they're already toying with drone mechs

[@electricbayonet2]

That one Jaeger grabbing and firing buildings with its Gmod physics gun was a real “We did it, Patrick! We saved the city!” moment.

[@northernnugget]

the city:

[@cestaron634]

That was a bunch of cars and debries.

[@johnnycrown5097]

I actually don't think del toro's idea for the sequel was a baf idea... Just too simple... Instead, let the kaiju be the humans jaeger... They don't need to be inside the kaiju... They drift with the Kaiju from somewhere else... The kaijus are just animals from their own planet thst two humans drift with it not to control but to give sentience... That's why charlie could drift back because it's human compatible and that's why charlie got overwritten in his own body because he was facing three beings who all overwhelmed him... Just think about it... Although that stupid blow off the mount fuji was stupid... It should be that they just wanted to perform a show of force by causing damage on earth so that earthlings would fear them enough to be controlled by them... You know, like a type of blackmail gunboating thing... Their attacks have jist being flexes... And the humans actually just wanted to do this for a few months and then start the negotiations with earthlings with the alien humans having all the advantage in the conversations but when earthlings started fighting back, they normally would have just changed strategy and try something more peaceful but the aggression of the kaijus has seeped into them as the sentience of the humans seeped into the kaijus making them more arrogant and it became a matter of pride to them... Like a type of I'll sgow you who's boss mentality... The sentience would have made the queen of yhe kaijus completely sentient and she's now controlling the alien humans from the shadows without them knowing by inserting the aggression in them as they're unawarely in permanent drift with her... She would be the last kaiju they all face, the alien humans and earthlings would fight her... The alien humans would come to earth just for colonization and resources but would leave earth alone after earthlings help them free them from the queen... No stupid blowing up mount fuji... The pacific rim would be a portal they made and the reason they made a portal there is threefold, for obvious defense upon approach using the water pressure, to hide their drifting signal using the water and to use for fusion power using the pressure of the water and the earth to help vreate fused energy to power the portal... It's very sloppy but that's because i was thinking it up as i was writing it... Any thoughts???

[@elvenbuttress]

That’s what I’m saying! You have the GMod Physgun, JUST PICK UP THE KAIJU AND THROW IT AT THE OTHER KAIJU!

[@lich109]

​@@cestaron634 It was fully intact buildings. They ripped down fully intact buildings (that probably had people in them) to drop them on Kaijus.

[@teenzset8827]

"Is Charlie Day fucking that monster brain?" A quote that will live in infamy

[@BarioIDL]

if the answer is yes, the pilots are also brainfucking eachother with that same tech

[@TuShan18]

@@BarioIDLcome to think of it, the Russian team piloting Cherno Alpha were a married couple. With this new implication, could this be one of their “private times” when linking?

[@UnfunnyDaffenDales98775]

@@TuShan18imagine going through all that memory for neuro connections and they see each other fucking each other 😂

[@Blockistium]

that scene made me so violently uncomfortable and sad

[@GEMINIEARTHWALKER]

​@@TuShan18 Or the Father and Son team, where, in retrospect the dad seemed more jealous of Stacker when he was going to drift with his son. "THAT'S MY SON PENTECOST!"

[@_The_Archive_]

Fun Fact: James Gunn filmed a cameo as a DJ, but it ended up being deleted from the finished movie. Gunn joked on Twitter that the scene was omitted so that his character could be saved for his own spin-off movie.

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

It’s too bad that Gunn’s busy running the new slate of DC movies, because I honestly think he could make a kickass mecha/monster film if he really wanted. Hell, the last third of The Suicide Squad 2021 is technically a kaiju battle - they even say it in the film!

[@o.v.m._part_1]

Hmm

[@mathieuleader8601]

Last night a DJ saved my life

[@hunterindonesia8986]

@@halfmettlealchemist8076 while I'm happy with the future of his career, I'm sad that the chances of him doing anything other than DC-related for the next 15 years are zero. I would love to him an original blockbuster flick from him

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

@@hunterindonesia8986 Slither and Super are both original films from Gunn, and I’ve heard good things about both of them. I’d recommend giving one or both a watch, if you haven’t already.

[@JustSomeDude42]

In Del Toro’s defense, he has gone on record as stating he’s usually upped the weird so that his actual vision seems more studio friendly. Do with that what you will.

[@fwg1994]

I do also kind of wonder how much that idea would've changed if he actually made the movie. Because I feel like there's a lot of cool ideas you have, and then when you actually start working on them, you realize they actually suck. A lot of stuff gets scrapped or massaged into a better form. I also feel like a lot of ideas off the cuff like that have a lot of nuance and context in their creator's head that doesn't make it into what actually gets verbalized when pitching it to someone else. It's really hard to say if Del Toro's plan was just a first draft that would've been heavily altered in its final form, something he could've actually pulled off with additional context and his unique touch, or just one of those bad ideas that people generally skilled in their craft occasionally get way too attached to. Or some mix of the three.

[@3takoyakis]

He sounds like how DC & marvel treat James gunn

[@emeraldviqueen]

If I remember correctly, I believe the people behind Team America: World Police did the exact same thing 😂

[@line4169]

Humans were the real monsters all along, *Ashes on fire starts playing*

[@zukhilmie7867]

as weird as his ideas were, his charm would still be there. The design of jaegers and monsters, the types of ppl piloting them, the movement weight of the jaegers battle and even the choreographed battle itself i feel like i can enjoy uprising if it had those charms instead of being weightless

[@sakamotoverge3194]

“Sometimes sequels aren't supposed to happen” Truer words have never been said.

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

The Matrix Reloaded

[@EnclaveOfficer1776]

Independence Day 2

[@tylerlambert8400]

​@@ThwipThwipBoomthe matrix was ment to be a trilogy from the start. The 1st movie ends with a cliffhanger

[@warlordofbritannia]

Like a younger sibling

[@allyhajek3133]

​e 13:05 😢

[@Beairstoboy]

One thing I will say that was neat about the Jaeger program continuing was seeing how they could be used in peacetime. Like there's that one Jaeger that's made for disaster relief and I think that's neat!

[@shapesnatch1341]

That's actually a super cool idea

[@thelittleoleme5323]

Imagine heavy rains and landslides, the people are tapped in a precarious situation, then they feel tremors as a gigantic robot comes to rescue them causing earthquakes with each step.

[@comradecameron3726]

@@thelittleoleme5323 Heavy rain. Unstable terrain. 5000 ton machine arrives to help. Its earth shattering steps cause a landslide. Oh fuck.

[@acridyd]

I was talking with my coworkers one day about Pacific Rim, and I just casually mentioned that I wondered if a sequel would ever be made. Then my friend turned to me and said, "But you told me you watched the sequel." It took me a few seconds to remember, but I had indeed seen it, prompting me to realize that I had genuinely forgotten that I watched Pacific Rim: Uprising. My own brain subconsciously, or maybe just consciously, wanted me to forget.

[@mid-sizesedan488]

The horrible memories all flooding back

[@MattO-zf1jl]

Def not saying this film was great, but the 1st wasn't exactly some masterpiece either. Orig was entertaining and yes better than the sequel but what exactly was there to ruin?

[@hmad898]

exact same thing happened to me

[@Trollkin9000]

@@MattO-zf1jl aside from the plane jane main character there was alot of rich lore amd storu telling that uprising either retconned or just streight up ignored.

[@MattO-zf1jl]

@@Trollkin9000 As I say I was entertained by the 1st film as it was a throwback to my childhood days watching things like Giant Robo, King Kong, Godzilla, etc. That said, the story and characters overall were lackluster. Edris character and Mako had some decent moments for sure but too bad the film centered on those dull interchangeable blonde beefcakes. The 2nd film was def a step down - I 100% agree on that - I just say people are being overdramatic with regards to it being some horrific trainwreck that followed a beautiful masterpiece.

[@ghostbased332]

The government when the kaijus are an actual consistent threat: “nah we don’t need jaegers, just build a wall” The government when the kaijus have been gone for 10 years: “we have jaegers stationed at basically every city but we also will forget that in the third act”

[@spookzer16]

Also the plot could have been so interesting with the jaegers just being in storage. Like the kaiju come back only for humanity to be unprepared with all of the remaining jaegers in storage. Pilots? They could be dead or needing to be called into action. That way the Kaiju could already have leveled a city by the time humanity reacts. Idk, just some concepts.

[@merrittanimation7721]

@@spookzer16Or the jaegars fight each other Gundam style because someone thought they’d be great in conventional warfare. And then the kaijus show up again and they’re all like “Oh right we built these things to defend humanity not beta each other up” and then join together. Something like that

[@spookzer16]

@@merrittanimation7721 Yeah that would be interesting. Honestly just anything is better than, "We're still building jaegers. Because, idk."

[@merrittanimation7721]

@@spookzer16Exactly

[@fulcrum6760]

@@spookzer16Either that or maybe the aliens used an EMP to knock out every Yeager except the ones at Tokyo.

[@TheOneWhoMightBe]

I'm thoroughly impressed at the amount of effort you put into this "What if Pacific Rim had a sequel" release. You even rendered a bunch of CGI for it.

[@Healbot2000]

Pacific Rim had a sequel?

[@mr.mac-n-cheese2401]

I felt the same way, after all there is no sequel to pacific rim

[@thedarklordakathelikelord4268]

Agreed

[@kokotomenance344]

really good cgi too. At least for youtuber standards

[@thedarklordakathelikelord4268]

@@kokotomenance344 agreed

[@statikin5110]

It's important to note actually that the reason behind the less impactful action and lack of weight compared to the original can be pinned on John Boyega, as he was a producer for this movie. He mentioned he thought the Jaegers were too slow in the first movie and wanted the fights to "hurry up", which was super disappointing to hear.

[@citizenvulpes4562]

T-they're giant robots.....

[@Kafka-Youtube]

And he made fucking power rangers absolutely dissapointing

[@plot6520]

Wow....I didn't think I would want to kill John Boyega, but now I do.

[@sazam1966]

Dude wanted to play in a Transformers movie

[@Kafka-Youtube]

@@sazam1966 He didnt understand that the "slow" mechs is what made it cool is so sad...

[@rd0676]

Betraying all of humanity for kaiju does seem like a classic example of Charlie work

[@michael83479]

If you think about it the giant weapons are essentially just rat sticks

[@DireWilk]

WILD CARD BITCHES! YEEEEEEEEEEHAW

[@Lrdnqustr]

He probably did it for the Kaijussy idk

[@itsnot0umar.]

⁠@@LrdnqustrKaijussy 😭😭😭

[@wavehellhole]

@@Lrdnqustrif the waitress was a kaiju it wouldn’t even be a question

[@khairulnabilakmal33]

The fact that Del Toro vision is more confusing that the original idea still makes me believe that a Pacific Rim sequel doesn't exist

[@USSMariner]

It's not. Like, at all. Newt going crazy was already hinted at in the film, for one. The rest are just common sci-fi tropes (several of which I *know* del Toro took from various kaiju and tokusatsu films) which only sound bad because we never got to see *him* make *that* film. We only got to see corporate fanfic.

[@gabrielalejandrodoldan4722]

​@@USSMariner Corporate "fan"fic?

[@IdentifiantE.S]

@@USSMarinerYou’re 💯 right !

[@TheFire1290]

@@USSMariner They may be referring to the end of the video that shows what Del Toro planned to do with the precursors, which is to make them humans from the future wearing suits. It's possible for an idea to work better in practice than on paper, but that sounds like a terrible idea.

[@johnP0908]

We'll never know honestly, Del Toro having this idea doesn't mean it will be completely translated to the end product. a lot of people seems to miss that. the plot is one of the most generic plot in the first movie but Del Toro's flair made it way more interesting than expected due to his world building ideas. So honestly, it's plausible that a watered down version of Del Toro's initial idea for the sequel might still work.

[@connorwalters9223]

Fun fact, Pacific Rim: Uprising is technically not canon anymore. In 2021, Netflix made an animated TV called Pacific Rim: The Black which softly retconned the entirety of Pacific Rim: Uprising. So yeah. Uprising no longer exists

[@seanhartnett79]

Lol. I am going to watch that soon.

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

Extremely rare Netflix W

[@mesousagaby740]

Damn, Mako Mori's death was THAT unpopular. Although, ironically, the series itself didn't get rolling that much cause Netflix thinks marketing is too hard.

[@o.v.m._part_1]

Finally! Someone who mentions the third part

[@o.v.m._part_1]

@@seanhartnett79have fun bud

[@ChungySlav]

"In this episode of China Fakes Everything, China fakes a Pacific Rim sequel."

[@IAmTheCheddarMan]

pffft China Insider referrence

[@wegosouth789]

tofu dreg kaiju drones

[@m2bradley161]

Awesome my Jaeger!

[@mega_bird700]

Someone in an interview (I forget who) once said “Del Toro’s problem is that he’s too nice to tell someone that they’re wrong.” And it kinda makes sense when watching Uprising.

[@modelgio360]

Huh?, but this movie wasn't directed by Del toro

[@JamarD421]

​@@modelgio360Yeah, but he basically told the guy directing it to do whatever when he couldve given better direction. Something like that.

[@modelgio360]

@@JamarD421 after being delay so much, anyone would be done with the movie, also director did affect, but the movie also lack the writing of Travis Beacham

[@JamesPeach]

@@JamarD421 Americans, always finding a way to blame someone else for a problem. If Del Toro wasn't directing the movie...why would he be responsible for...directing the movie?????????????????????????????????? He gave the guy advice trusting the man was a professional capable of doing a job he was being paid to do. It's not Del Toro's job to babysit a guy doing a project he was once on.

[@jacaredosvudu1638]

What is that "Uprising" movie? Never heard of it

[@Theology.101]

you know who we need to pilot this massive, nuclear powered war mecha? A preteen Rey from Star Wars. She even has Finn

[@dominikstahl9704]

That's pretty accurate i must say XD

[@Theology.101]

@@dominikstahl9704and s little ball robot too

[@BarioIDL]

"it's fucking anime, they are all piloted by lil shit children''

[@concept5631]

As if it wasn't controversial the first time

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

Both this movie and Transformers: The Last Knight both weirdly borrowed a lot of plot points from the Star Wars sequels, which was a bad idea for two reasons: the first of which is that it’s the classic Hollywood mistake of blockbuster false-equivalence, wherein some rich exec will look at the most popular movie at the time and go “hey, people love this movie, let’s do the same things that movie did in our movie and then people will love our movie too!” It’s flawed logic at best, and unchecked hubris at worst. The second reason why it was a bad decision was because it implies that somebody thought that the Star Wars sequel trilogy was something for film directors to actually _aspire to emulate,_ which is flawed for reasons I feel that I shouldn’t need to justify.

[@josephrichardson7254]

I think the idea that the Kaiju obsessed guy went on to be brainwashed by Kaiju makes sense. It was somewhat of a worry in the first movie since he's so infatuated with the even though they were trying to kill them, and following up with "yeah, it kind of is a problem" could work. Kaiju also using Evil Charlie to try and re-invade Earth to possibly get revenge also makes sense after they dropped a nuke in the portal, or even a grander plan of trying to use the Earth for their own purposes of expansion. It's a shame they never made a movie that could follow up on the idea.

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

in the anime a dude has a ton of Kaiju pets that he think he controls but gets eaten by babies

[@RebelsParadox]

Totally seems it could fit, kinda reminds of Cyberpunk when the mind starts to become warped and deteriorated with this tech/ mind corrosion

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

@@RebelsParadox Biopunk is such an under used concept outside of indie games look up Cruelty Squad an Wrought Flesh

[@DarkestMirrored]

honestly, even if it had just been "yeah, making contact with a kaiju brain ONCE 'infected' him and slowly drove him mad" it could've worked. it's a really fun idea, i just think the way they directed it was... he's TOO human. it would work better if when he "dropped the act" he was more obviously overwritten by something else.

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

@@DarkestMirrored the anime has a guy who drifted with too many people gets massively confused they could have done that an had the Kaiju be the intrusive thoughts that fade in and out

[@wetburntbagel]

It’s crazy that the secondary protagonist from the first movie just dies like a background character nobody cares about

[@heirofaniu]

Deuteragonist

[@wetburntbagel]

@@heirofaniu thanks

[@heirofaniu]

@@wetburntbagel no problem man.

[@grimgingrin830]

Some of the main character issues could have been solved by having Mako as the lead. Have her fail to save Raleigh and deal with the loss, no need for a seemingly magical son that was never even mentioned

[@grimgingrin830]

@@3takoyakis I’m not sure what you mean? My thinking is that John Boyega’s character didn’t need to exist at all if Mako had been the lead

[@Alen-Kat]

Sorry to be this guy but it's Raleigh.

[@grimgingrin830]

@@Alen-Kat lol it’s okay, thanks xD

[@charlesws7825]

Just to let you know, your idea is only a thousand times better. I don't just say that because I love Mako, it would have been fitting for her to carry the torch for Stacker and Raleigh and teach new pilots. And be the hero! ❤

[@aguywithalotofopinions412]

Although that’d literally be the plot of the first one all over again

[@SystemZ3RO]

The idea of Charlie getting addicting to drifting with a piece of Kaiju brain that eventually turns him evil isn't bad, imo I feel that they just didn't stick the landing. A "Die a hero or live long enough to be come the villain" story where in the end he would sacrifice himself to redeem himself. Instead we just got an even more manic Charlie.

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

in the anime a guy is forced to drift with so many people he becomes brain damaged so he acts odd they could have done that and had his evil actions not just him being taken over but being manipulated in his broken state

[@Replicaate]

Honestly I did like that part - I mean there's gotta be SOME side effects of letting an alien intelligence canoodle with your brain, even briefly.

[@Raptor747]

I hate that "die a hero or live long enough to become the villain" trope because it implies that no one remains a hero, and the ones that try end up becoming evil scumbags. Like, imagine that as an aesop: "Don't be a good person for long, kids, or else you'll become evil!" Yeah, I'm sure evil people LOVE to popularize that idea. Makes it easier for them.

[@RandomPerson-tz7wk]

If only they made Charlie behave more competent and less of horny kaiju lover. There's too many goofy scenes.

[@Ryzard]

It sucked because his dynamic with his partner was the best part of the first movie (character wise) and it sucks that he just... Turned maniacally evil and makes ya feel sad.

[@squidymeares]

I'm so sick of the "little girl can build extremely complex mech/machine in her garage" trope in movies.

[@Xenomorthian]

I feel the killdozer is kind of a good baseline / reference point on how to pull that kind of thing off and have it still feel grounded

[@RepublicofMolossia]

Psst. Her father built it.

[@TheSchultinator]

TBF, even a guy building some of the things we see (like a miniaturized one-pilot jaeger) doesn't make sense.

[@RepublicofMolossia]

@TheSchultinator How, exactly? Because there are noticeable differences between Scrapper and a Jaeger.

[@TheSchultinator]

@@RepublicofMolossia True, but Scrapper is still way more advanced than a car. Just making the minimech stay upright, while using secondhand components, from who knows how many different jaegers, implies an insane level of engineering ability, never mind making it move. (Almost approaching WH40k levels of tech-wizardry!)

[@Nikola_DZ]

I have this feeling that one of the writers is a fan of It's Always Sunny, and thought it would be a great idea to fuse Newt and Charlie Kelly into one character.

[@falloutfunnies5416]

you’re right actually, that is literally exactly what happened, google it it’s funny to read about

[@connorstamps1298]

The thought of three kaiju morphing together to form one bigger and stronger kaiju is a pretty cool idea. It’s just a shame that it was an idea inside of a not so good movie

[@BarioIDL]

it could be a workaround the portal size, too bad it never happened in pacific rim

[@Big_Div]

If there was ever a third there could be megazord like jaegers

[@RJKilroy]

They just stole fusion from Steven Universe

[@RaQ-hx3iz]

Literally stolen from bionicle

[@Gatherway-Duo]

This movie had a lot of fun ideas. I really dug the MP Jagers that were secretly Kaiju. Brought to mind the MP EVAs from End of Evangelion. If the final battle had been against all of them at once, that would have been fantastic. But, you know...

[@Alex_From_Florida]

I’m kinda impressed that one can make a rant about a nonexistent movie and have it be consistent

[@johannbezuidenhout2976]

Even used AI to make all the fake art and footage.

[@J3Puffin]

Goncharov

[@fukkthisnewupdate8882]

It feels like he peered into an alternate universe where this was a movie

[@DarkknightChris]

I'm kinda curious what this "Uprising Wars" that The Black mention. It's like there were referencing a sequel to the 1st movie despite there was never a sequel.

[@UGNAvalon]

Dominic Noble made a rant about the nonexistent book that was adapted into The Room. It was so convincing, a lot of ppl didn’t realize it was a prank. 🙃

[@MASTERoCHIPS]

"Sometimes the sequal so bad that everyone collectively agree it doesn't exist" ahm... Megamind

[@BasedAlfred]

idk what you are talking about, there never was a megamind 2

[@physayordaud4816]

Accurate af... What's a Megamind 2?

[@xboomslayer2]

Hm?😀

[@raggens]

There is no Easter Bunny, there is no Tooth Fairy, and there is no Megamind sequel or tie-in show

[@MrSpartan993]

What about Megamind? It’s a really great stand alone movie but I don’t see what that has to do with horrendous sequels.

[@AltProtomix]

What really gets me about this movie is how many interesting elements were set up in the first 15 minutes and then never mentioned again. People dealing with the ruined scraps of a post-kaiju world? Illegal underground jaeger fights? The implications of jaeger tech left unattended? Nah we need more screentime of charlie day getting intimate with a giant brain.

[@Zombiewithabowtie]

Don't forget the dwindling market of Kaiju body parts, as the supply has dried up and Hannibal Chow is casting around for a new source of income.

[@cjthenarhwalking1378]

The ideas of uprising could've been great but the execution was god awful

[@Nostripe361]

Honestly I kind of wonder if it would have been more interesting to go crazy with the story. LIke perhaps after the kaiju were beat, rather than just having a Jaegers around just in case, they are now being used as normal tools now; like space tech you now have civilian jaegers being built and used for stuff like construction or sports. Maybe make the final battle not in Japan but the big reveal of the evil jaeger kaiju brains. A big set piece where they are activated and the final battle is preventing any of them from escaping or activating the portal in the Pacific again. Could even use the MC's contacts in the first 15 minutes to put together a ragtag force to stop them or something. though this means is no Kaiju. I mean its not a great idea but it would be different.

[@ChimeraLotietheBunny]

XD woah

[@xyro3633]

Should've just titled it Real Steel 2 at that point

[@kaleidomaiden]

it is weird that everytime someone mentioning Pacific Rim 2 i'm always excited, completely forgot that it was released 5 years ago and the fact that i've already watched it

[@readingking1421]

I wish I could block it out of my memory and be excited by the prospect again too.

[@anonymousapproximation8549]

​@@readingking1421Why wouldn't you be excited at a potential sequel? They've never made one yet.

[@somethingwithultra7231]

5 years ago... I totally forgot holy shit

[@FREVQUEBEATS]

is that the *iconic* zach hadel “aaauuuuughh” scream at 1:36? absolutely beautiful

[@philfedorowick]

Charlie getting addicting to drifting with a piece of Kaiju brain is not only my favorite part of the movie (or really, the only part I liked) , but it's something that is eerily enough, something that I could see myself doing. I mean --- the chance to commune with actual aliens?? Like c'mon who's gonna pass that up? It makes me happy knowing that that aspect of it was actually Del Toro's doing.

[@newil_yovac]

Gotta agree with you. I'd probably do that with a random stray dog, much less the entire brain of an alien behemoth bio-weapon

[@ThiccDaddy326]

@@newil_yovacthis comment is wild

[@benhur221]

betraying humanity for that kaijussy 😈😋

[@shealupkes]

it would have been played as tragic rather than funny under a better director

[@georgewhitworth9742]

I have to share a planet with this person, smh...

[@AlphaHT]

It is almost a relieve that Pacific rim does not have a sequel, just imagine how bad it would be if it was like this man described

[@speedtek]

almost as bad as if they had made sequels to The Matrix. Could you even imagine?

[@coffeebean_tamer]

​@@speedtekin the Matrix defense Reloaded was actually great I love to this day.... Revelations um ok and Resurrection should be considered a crime against Sci-Fi.. but yeah Lana in her defense made a sh#tty movie on purpose so WB wouldn't revive the franchise.

[@madmantheepic7278]

@@coffeebean_tamer honestly an excuse i can get behind, that the movie was made so that it wouldn't be revived anymore, but still there's no way thats accually what happened.

[@agentlinrov1474]

That is the sequel he just described. No more of that wooshing bullshit, you know exactly that's the sequel it came out!

[@SonicHedgehog1991]

​@@agentlinrov1474I hope you're more fun irl.

[@snowcat9308]

Unironically thought for the longest time that a Pacific Rim sequel would be such a cool idea. I am literally hearing about this for the first time today.

[@Ryzard]

Man it's so sad.. It's okay if you like action, but... Not action like pr1. Think of it as power rangers pacific rim. They move like power rangers, they are colored like power rangers, and they are a bunch of children in metal suits fighting against transforming merging villains with the power of teamwork... Like power rangers.

[@apollyon4529]

I'm so sorry son

[@ahhhsothisishowyouchangean162]

@@Ryzardthe action was even horrible.. absolutely hated the fan fic

[@theodorehodbor5080]

A good Pacific Rim sequel would've just been the first movie done again with different/more fights. Sometimes that's all you need, no point in reinventing the wheel here.

[@antonioramirez3676]

We do not speak of it.. It was THAT BAD

[@chinchillageneral]

For those unaware, this video is an unfiction project. It's honestly impressive how real he made it look

[@inviotb]

The thing about Evil Newt is that it’s not actually completely out of nowhere for his character to go that direction, like it makes sense somewhat with what the first movie gives us. It’s just the way it was written and incorporated into the plot that makes it feel contrived and stupid. With better writers with a better understanding of the world and characters, it could make for a really compelling story.

[@flaviomonteiro1414]

This

[@Kintizen]

You are asking too much from the guy who wrote Jupiter Rising and the 2014 Daredevil movie.

[@inviotb]

@@Kintizen true 💀

[@MusicoftheDamned]

​@@KintizenNot to excuse him for this movie being an abomination, but Steven S. DeKnight didn't have anything to do with the _Daredevil_ movie (that's from 2003 anyway), just the Netflix series that was supposedly good--never seen it. I haven't heard anything good about _Jupiter's Legacy_ at all from what little I remember hearing about it though, and I find it funny that one of his co-writers (Emily Carmichael) apparently went on to co-write _Jurassic World Dominion_ which is just as dumb as this movie, but...yeah. I initially thought you were blaming this guy for _Jupiter Ascending_ even though that was all the Wachowskis' fault, which is the only reason I even bothered to check since I was *very* confused for a couple of minutes.

[@hanalexcranealister6799]

Yeah, Del Toro has some wacky ideas but he would have known how to make them work as they always do, the execution of those ideas is where they fucked up

[@JCintheBCC]

The most remarkable thing about Pacific Rim Uprising is the collective resistance our minds have to it. I came here to write my experience with that, only to read through these comments and realize how common it was. I watched this movie. Since then, I have started watching it at least 3 times, only to make it 20 minutes in and realize I had seen it before and simply forgotten. It is beyond forgettable. It is aggressively un-rememberable. To this day, I cannot tell you what happens in the film. Truly an achievement.

[@Words-.]

😂I see what you mean. The ending was a rollercoaster tho, the main thing I remember

[@DefaultFlame]

That's my experience with this review. I was convinced that I'd miss the movie. Then one thing after another started to be familiar and eventually I realized that I had seen it.

[@rKhael53]

Except from the moment I see it, nobody ever mentioned that movie again to me. Me neither. And I have great trouble to even remember it !

[@tsrorst2792]

I remember they found some meat chunks inside the evil robot and that was a crazy revalation for some reason. All they had to do really was maintain the kickass, heavy fights and maybe go back in time for the earlier jeager v kaiju fights. I mean, we all watched Pacific Rim for the amazing animation and nuts to monster butts battles.

[@Marcelelias11]

This movie is basically the Silence from Doctor Who

[@Docwilson91]

Speaking of missed opportunities, it’s too bad that Avatar: The Last Airbender never got a live adaptation.

[@mroctober3657]

It's also a shame they never made any more Terminator movies after T2.

[@No-cc1fq]

Man i love watching Dragon ball live action 😊

[@icebergerplays9639]

They are finally getting one on Netflix! It will be so cool seeing them like that for the first time.

[@thefilmwatcher1302]

Nah, that’s a good thing. Like, just watch the original work. Why is it shameful just because “animation”?

[@OneShotMan2]

they did they werent bad@@mroctober3657

[@yungpm]

Everytime I see Charlie as not Charlie, I imagine Charlie from its always sunny lost his mind even more than he already has.

[@Real7419]

Wow I can't believe cody made an alternate history video just for "What if Pacific Rim got a Sequel?"

[@o.v.m._part_1]

It got one: "Pacific Rim The Black" Is one

[@PresidentChicken7]

You guys are haters I like this movie

[@CarlosRivera-es5vh]

@@PresidentChicken7Obsidian Fury is cool

[@Real7419]

@@PresidentChicken7 Yeah Cody really put the work in hypothesizing about the what if of this movie, he even made whatever fan-project the background videos are to really add to the credibility of the timeline.

[@PresidentChicken7]

Bro the robots in this movie were cooler then the first, except for Stryker Eurika, he will be the best forever.

[@OfficialMaxBox]

6:59 is exactly right. The pauses in movements added so much WEIGHT and FORCE to the impacts, compared to the light and nimble abilities of every Jaeger in the second film

[@kingboiiiiiiii8460]

lol what second film? You mean the TV ripoff that other company did?

[@average.yt.commenter609]

The way the arm armor prepared itself for impact. Chefs kiss

[@yesno7889]

It literally felt like I was watching a kid play with figurines or a power ranger in a suit. There was no sense of scale and the city feels more like a small prop I can step on rather than a landmark I could actually go to.

[@lolstuffenjoy9880]

I'm worried that this is the direction the godzilla monster verse is headed towards

[@tylerd5515]

I genuinely cannot imagine how Charlie Day can be a convincing villain, even as his Always Sunny character is pleasant.

[@DemonicRemption]

@tylerd5515 Look on the bright side, at least he went on to voice Luigi in the recent Super Mario film.

[@squidee]

Literally every main always sunny character is meant to be the most deplorable human being possible

[@Caffeine_Addict_2020]

It's def his voice. I think he would fit as a mad scientist particularly well, but it seems like they leaned too far on the "scientist" and not close to hard enough on the "mad"

[@OompaPompano]

In Hotel Artemis he's a pretty good villain.

[@Ryzard]

It sucks because he was the best non-big fight part of the first movie imo. So making him dumb and evil really sucks.

[@arcane3877]

"Some things just aren't meant to have sequels" Fast and Furious would like to know your location

[@Skarrier]

Another thing very few people are mentioning is how the fight is designed. In Uprising, Kaijus and Jaegers are just being tossed through the battle zone and constantly separating themselves from the opponent to then run towards each other again, thus a fair bit of screen time of a fighting scene is occupied with just running or flying through the air. But in OG movie, Jaeger and Kaiju was often put in point-blank to each other and just stood their ground brawling in close combat: Kaiju tried to go past its opponent to reach a city and Jaeger was preventing it from doing so. That way more emphasis was been able to be put on blows themselves rather than just on some activities of high mobility.

[@yesno7889]

That fighting style also gives both sides a lot more weight, seeing them tossed and flying around like that make them seem like ragdolls rather than hunks of flesh or metal. It cascades to making the city feel like a dollhouse rather than an actual place, further lowering any form of stakes or attachments we might have had to the fight.

[@BrandonMcCurry999]

What made the first unlike things like transformers The mass of the machines showed... they weren't that fast And in "reality" moving so very much weight... would look like it

[@williamedwards4151]

I have *never* seen a franchise that could have benefited from a prequel more than the Pacific Rim franchise. Just IMAGINE all the awesome fights that happened before the events of the first movie. Holy god damn Christ. What a missed opportunity. I would have sold a kidney to see the story behind the first Kaiju attack. Or the first Jaeger!? Omg.

[@edoval1029]

just imagine how epic the first win against a Kaiju could have been, or the first win with a Jaeger. They could have made an entire film based on that victory alone.... what a shame

[@Headbringer]

I would love to see more of Tacit Ronin, because it is sleek and mobile design while also retaining the gravity of the Jaegers.

[@williamedwards4151]

@@Headbringer Oh, for sure. I think that whole universe is ripe with great Jaegers and the epic battles they had.

[@hwalnut7202]

they could've had so much juicy drama and politics centered around all the countries having to come together and create the jaeger program

[@williamedwards4151]

@@hwalnut7202 Imagine a movie where an American Jaeger team and a Russian Jaeger team had to learn to work together to take down a Kaiju. The script writes itself.

[@Atritanum]

This is gaslighting, no way you are telling me that this was a real movie, by real people, that I actually bought tickets and watched this in a movie theater

[@The_Basement_Dwellers1]

thats cuz it was just a budgeted fan fic

[@tominieminen66]

You just couldn't resist getting hyped up from the mere fact it was a seguel 😂

[@subjectc7505]

Yep, I watched it and liked it 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@andreibaciu7518]

it has an anti-memetic effect. call the Foundation ASAP

[@512TheWolf512]

Well I didn't hate it. Gigantic, gorgeous mechanism pretty dope

[@kyleyuen245]

23:12 remember the initial tagline. We built monsters to fight the monsters. It's fitting. Would love to see your opinions on the great and terrible pacific rim the black

[@1ManRandom]

I like how Mako, who was probably more of a driving personality in the original movie than her deuteragonist/the main character, was just never considered to lead this movie. Like, really? They had a character who was practically set up to take a leading role, and instead they just scribble in Pentecost’s unmentioned long-lost son so that he can be just as generic a protagonist as the last movie’s lead. If they wanted to have someone die in a helicopter crash so badly, why not just switch Mako and Raleigh’s roles? Let Raleigh die in the crash and Mako be the pilot who’s unable to save him.

[@theNEWMASKSdudexxx]

Letting a woman take the lead over a man? Nonsense.

[@skye1420]

Insecure men would call it woke garbage for starring a woman, and then this movie would lose its main demographic.

[@voidwalkerbruh7426]

Eh

[@ginsoxx92]

​@@skye1420BRO COOKING, WE ARE ORDERING A DOORDASH 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥

[@cooljim1376]

@@skye1420 Moron detected. No, because Mako at no point was written to be a flower power character by retarded writers trying to show how much of a simp they are to a needless ideology. Mako had the potential to be a protagonist and I would have preferred that way more than what we got, because Boyega's acting just ain't it. Keep feminism away from women and suddenly we have a normal story that everyone can come close to and enjoy. Amazing isn't it?

[@Alex_From_Florida]

Del Toro’s Pacific Rim 2: The humans were the monsters all along The actual Pacific Rim 2: The humans are more monsters than the actual monsters, but don’t think about it

[@IdentifiantE.S]

Nice resume

[@cardescomedioses3674]

Well if we take the assumption that the theory osp explained is real, (kaijus being hurricanes) it would actually make sense

[@MatanVil]

Communism in the nutshell is being more of a monster then the actual monsters (the Nazis and evil Bourgeois)

[@somethingwithultra7231]

@@cardescomedioses3674 Who is "osp", (PS: Please don't tell me it's a damn Acronym that only 5 people know but you're using anyway.)

[@PyroBun_2844]

I love fandoms that causally go “Yeah, this episode/movie does not exist, still wish it was real!” PR: Uprising perfectly fits this bill.

[@Inquisitorsteve2]

still wondering what an Avatar the Las Airbender movie would be like, guess we'll never know

[@Plyrith]

Pacific rim doesn't need a sequel movie tbh, a prequel would be cool though.

[@unvox7127]

and there u have it folks

[@Nyst2]

If you read the plot of Pacific Rim out to someone who has never even heard of Del Toro, they'd probably say it wouldn't work. There's a good chance that Del Toro could have taken these ideas for a second movie and actually made them work.

[@_Hissatsu]

I second this! Although it does sound goofy on paper, del Toro always delivers a good movie on film. From story to visuals to characters. I'm seething right now knowing we will most likely not get another movie made.

[@lordmontymord8701]

He would have at least worked harder to make them better and maybe thrown out some ideas when he saw it didn't work as planned. What Del Toro said was basicly a rough first draft - but thats what they went with. Of course this is pure speculation, but i think he would have at least: a) given Pentecost jr. a better backstory, maybe make him more than just someone who dropped out of school and given him a real redemption arc b) not killed off Maco in this way - maybe give her a fight instead of dying in the heli c) add Del Toro-horror to Newt instead of making him a joke ...

[@PontiusPontiac]

A mute woman fucks a magic fish man, and a man who is also after the fish wants to smash her too. Yes, this is an actual movie plot of Guillermo Del Torro's, and it was actually really good... so yes OP you are correct lol xD

[@PJOZeus]

Adoptive or spiritual successor to Pentecost (a student from some military academy that perhaps wasn't drift compatible at first? Claimed by the precursors in some way perhaps in some shady deal for some of the elites to save themselves in turn for less resistance? And yeah just general Del-Toro things - Could have been interesting@@lordmontymord8701

[@PJOZeus]

Del Toro is one of those magnificent directors where you're dumb enough to not understand how tf it would be any good, but smart enough to respect him and have faith in his abilities to somehow make it work, as he always has

[@apollosinner]

That comment about the Jaegers feeling like power armour was so on-point. In the first movie, the Jaegers moved so slow, so clunky and were so cumbersome that you could FEEL it. If they jumped or got threw around, you would think “fuck that’s bad” and it was the same with the Kaiju. They feel more like Zords from Power Rangers in Uprising. It ruined any kind of feeling to when the robots or aliens were fighting, which is what I went to see.

[@zaredluna2456]

Something else to note, the only time the jaegers were even able to jump or anything like that in the first movie was with rockets built into the back of the jaeger, as evidenced by crimson typhoon and gipsy danger during the hong kong fight. Even then those are the only two instances in the entire movie of jaegers jumping since they're so massive, for one it would be near impossible without the rockets given how heavy the jaegers are and two, they would cause even more collateral damage if they were jumping everywhere. So its safe to assume that jumping with those rockets, assuming the jaeger had them, was use sparingly. Whereas in uprising, based off the clips shown off here, the jaegers are able to jump without issue.

[@F0rtuneLT]

One thing that's really interesting to me about the girl (Amara) building a jaeger in her garage is that there was actually a tie-in webcomic released around the time the movie came out called "Pacific Rim: Amara" which was a 10-issue miniseries available only on Webtoon of all places that covered her backstory. But the stuff brought up in it basically holds zero weight in the movie

[@drag0nerd]

I READ THAT ONCE and was like "man... sure would be great if this kind of worldbuilding character-driven drama was at all present in the film". I completely forgot about it until now for that reason

[@F0rtuneLT]

@@drag0nerd holy shit it's drag0nerd creator of the hit webcomic wayward lantern (real)

[@drag0nerd]

@@F0rtuneLT I RECOGNIZED YOUR PFP LMAOOO THANK YOU

[@F0rtuneLT]

@@drag0nerd I WAS LIKE WAIT A MINUTE

[@nightlydata2181]

HOLY SHIT I READ THAT I HAD NO IDEA IT WAS OFFICIAL LOL

[@sr.chantilly7152]

Its so nice of you to make a video about fanfic, to bad a actual sequel was never made

[@thomaskettoman]

Remember, kids, when you can't progress the story any further, just make a prequel.

[@RexxLifeJah]

There was no need for a sequel either, they threw a goddamn jaeger nuke at them, boom, world saved. It’s a simple ending but the plot of movie and its design is simple itself so it would fit perfectly

[@Wurmze]

They could easily progress it further, they just tried to do so with 0 brain cells engaged

[@chatongarou7665]

@@RexxLifeJah I mean, a disaster movie where we watch the arrival of the first kaijus (and maybe the first Jeagers at the end) could have been fun. Sure, it's not "needed", but at least it would have been slightly more original and interesting than what we got.

[@wmetz1869]

Game of thrones taking note from you man. Wise saying

[@Coyfish-ht5sl]

real

[@JoshBleeze]

This was my first job in the VFX industry, I watched every shot multiple times a day for 8 months … and only your video reminded me Scott Eastwood is in this 😂 You’re a true hero Cody 🫡

[@voidaspects9173]

Oh that's cool as hell honestly!

[@JoshBleeze]

@@voidaspects9173 thanks, as much as the movie turned out. I have some pretty fun memories of it… highlights included our animation supervisor acting out how he wanted the Jaeger to flip the bird at the Kaiju and someone baked an epic Kaiju head cake for the wrap party - complete with glowing eyes

[@voidaspects9173]

@@JoshBleeze aw, I love that! Honestly, I have a soft spot for this movie, so it's really fun to hear about stuff like this

[@CrazyChaos]

VFX artists and people in the entire industry are so important, so thank you so much for your hard work :D

[@merrittanimation7721]

Maybe he just sort of appeared in the film once it was finished. Like when a ghost shows up in a picture after you've developed it.

[@Ostermond]

I’d argue that Newt becoming evil WAS a character assassination. He started the first movie obsessively fascinated by the kaiju, but by the time he encounters Otachi, suffice to say, he becomes much more afraid. Only did one last drift with Baby Otachi to figure out the aliens’ plan, aaaand that was even _with_ Hermann. If anything, they put the fear he never really had into him.

[@emeraldviqueen]

Think its cuz he’d never been up close and personal with one. Dude got a serious reality check.

[@scaper8]

And the idea of the kaiju or their creator's possessing him, or even just gaining more and more influence over time, is actually a neat idea. One that could really work, if executed properly.

[@reddeadspartan]

​​@@emeraldviqueenYeah it's like those people who've only experienced predators through TV or zoos, if you were ever up close and personal with one without any of those barriers things would be very different. Plus, I don't think it's too weird that someone in universe would he obsessed with Kaiju, because as far as people knew they were just big animals (albeit destructive ones), you'd totally have people who would be interested in them.

[@sev1120]

If the thing was he tried to simulate a Kaiju in case they ever came back, and the experiment got out of hand and it escaped, it'd be in character

[@PsycheTrance65]

To be fair I think it was a good idea, they just royally botched the execution. Human-to-human drifting can have some side effects so it makes sense that trying to drift with a Kaiju would also mess someone up.

[@F0rtuneLT]

ah yes, because nothing bad has EVER followed the plotpoint of "so we gave control to this private Chinese company"

[@mako9324]

I actually liked the way newt became infected by the precursors and it lead to his fall, it was a solid development. Just implemented terribly

[@FirePuncher183]

He should've acted more alien

[@daofficialhansyt]

@@FirePuncher183 But The P.P.D.C will be suspicious of Newt

[@shealupkes]

it should have been clearer newt was gone, newt had his grievances with the restrictions he was given and his rivalry with Hermann but he would never have betrayed them like he did

[@lordmontymord8701]

Yeah, that could have worked if we saw that his mind was really twisted and a part of him was maybe still fighting the precursors, but he simply couldn't do anything. Instead we got that revelation-scene with "I Want to know what love is". Tone? What is that? Let's make this funny! From that point on all chances of a dignified ending for Newt were gone ...

[@aznthy]

It was a dumb development written by dumb people and you liked it, a very dumber person than the writers because atleast the writers are getting paid and you aren't with your dumb like of a bad movie.

[@ses884]

Guillermo indeed had plans for a sequel, a more “lovecraftian” one, with powerful monsters, weird but cool mechas, etc. Warner and Legendary indeed had a script, but because Guillermo wasn’t available, instead of waiting for him or work with what they had on hand, they threw everything.

[@mrcheesemunch]

Since they never made a sequel they should finally get around to doing Guillermo's

[@zakarblyaddya]

source: trust me bro

[@Malconeous]

Cody really went and made a 25 minute video about a movie that never happened Edit: holy fuck this took off

[@johnelvinmwangi1871]

facts, still never happened

[@rollinsomethingbutiforgot]

Inception 2: The Forgettoning

[@Maretoast]

I thought it was a fanfic

[@stevenm11920]

Your telling me his name is Cody

[@wason7985]

He is a passionate fanfic writer

[@nocap20]

Being hyped and expecting this movie to be good is something that changed me

[@o.v.m._part_1]

F

[@Carrion_IV]

Yeah, this killed a part of me when I watched it.

[@walrusArmageddon]

A lot of sequels are like that. My brother once described Dumb and Dumber Too as "watching a friend you haven't seen in a long time being strangled slowly in front of you"

[@blodus4521]

As soon as I saw the flippy stuff and wanton city destruction I checked out.

[@CheesecakeXIII]

What movie? There was no sequel

[@LambSauce1684]

“How the jaeger program was so expensive that they scrapped it altogether? Yeah this girl built one in her garage.”

[@ploop_tv]

When a friend and I were first talking about what a Pacific Rim sequel would look like, I made some remark along the lines of, "Now that every major world superpower can create titanic battle mechs, what happens when World War III breaks out?" And to this day I wish we could've seen a movie with inter-human tensions to demonstrate that "we were the monsters all along" without having to resort to "Kaiju are bio-suits from our future selves."

[@kindlingking]

Exactly. Explore other mecha tropes and give us mecha wars and space battles.

[@urapooper362]

​@@kindlingkingyou do realise del toros ideas are scifi/mecha tropes

[@Centauri902]

It would get nuked and that would be the end of it. Battle mechs suck ass for combat and the only reason they use them here is because kaiju blood is super toxic to oceanlife so they don't want to blow them apart.

[@iout]

​@@Centauri902 But... they blow them apart all the time in the original movie? First Kaiju fight we see is them plasma blasting a Kaiju's face off. They cut one in half, rip another apart, and detonate a nuke on the seabed. It's all right, you can say the Jaegers only exist because they wanted to see cool robots punch aliens. It's fine. We don't need anything deeper than that.

[@bowldawg4394]

Wasn't it also because they didn't want to nuke the cities the kaiju's were rampaging in?

[@FoNgThOnG]

It kills me everytime I' reminded of how the helicopter kept circling the area where the two Jaegers were fighting and within firing range of the evil one.

[@purplehaze2358]

I remember watching this film in theatres. This is notable because it's the _only_ thing I actually remember about this film in general; which says more about it than I ever could even with a decent recollection of it, I think.

[@shiyanowladislav]

Same thing

[@rollinsomethingbutiforgot]

Was the theater full, mid or almost empty? Just curious

[@purplehaze2358]

@@rollinsomethingbutiforgot I don't know, I think it was mid?

[@rollinsomethingbutiforgot]

@@purplehaze2358 were they all disabled?

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

I only remember the trolololo song and the jaegers flying. What the hell was that?

[@LexTheHel]

At 4:24 when you said she was “building a mech in a garage in a abandoned city” it reminded me of “ Tony stark built this in a cave, with a box of scraps”

[@seamuso4528]

I genuinely gaslighted myself into thinking this movie was just a very vivid dream I had. I made myself believe this movie never existed. This video is the only reason I know that this movie was actually real

[@ammdakin]

I did this with age of ultron 😂😂

[@rKhael53]

Except from the moment I see it, nobody ever mentioned that movie again to me. Me neither. And I have great trouble to even remember it !

[@Acavando]

The best part about Pacific Rim 2 was that I got to watch it all alone in an IMAX for my birthday(I went to premier night). And when I got out, the also depressed clerk offered me the entire box of movie posters. I declined and I regret it. But Ah.. memories

[@marvelousmaker]

I had similar experience but it was speed racer not in I max. Oh did yours come with a semi transparent moaning entity?

[@Gibbypastrami]

⁠@@marvelousmakerayo did u take those speed racer posters? I bet those would look sick in a bedroom, and from what I remember the aesthetic of the film was spot on at least so they probably had cool posters

[@MrShambles]

If you had a fireplace, those posters would've made great kindling.

[@Osterbaum]

I actually think Del Toro could have pulled that plot off. Not to mention that it was his first idea so probably would have changed possibly a lot.

[@jammygamer8961]

Yea as him becoming the director would of led to him further thinking about his own ideas but would also have him then working with the writers to make these ideas into a actual story which he would probably realize more of his ideas would need adjustment or scraping.

[@ashb7]

Yep. I can't believe anyone would dismiss a Del Toro idea just cause a very crude synopsis of it sounds silly. It's fucking Del Toro, you'd hope people would know by now that good things happen when you let that man cook.

[@Tenerens1s]

there’s a difference between concept and execution. so yeah, i somewhat agree. although i don’t really like the idea of precursors being humans lol

[@kubli365]

I like how you both have "would of" and "would have" in your comment @@jammygamer8961

[@JCintheBCC]

It’s also important to remember that Del Toro makes weird stuff. It’s what he does. Some of it is really good, some not so good, but rarely does a 3 sentence synopsis make sense. Explain Pan’s Labyrinth in 3 sentences, for example.

[@honkhonk8009]

The first movie having a fully analogue jaeger powered by a nuclear reactor, made it seem so realistic. It made it seem like an old nimitz class carriers from the 70s. It really emphasized its age. Stryker Eureka seemed like the HMS queen Elizabeth in comparison lol. Newer, but diesel powered.

[@alvianekka80]

Cherno Alpha looks like an old Soviet KV-2 tank.

[@arsarma1808]

The robot drones being made out of Kaiju is pulled straight out of End of Eva. There's probably a plot that could have existed deconstructing the post-Kaiju Jaeger program, with companies and countries justifying making these giant death machines by throwing out fake kaijus and attacking eachother with Jaegers (drones or not).

[@draketurtle4169]

Exactly this. The mass produced Jaegers are well a beat for beat rip off of the mass produced Eva’s (units 5 - 13). There’s also that aspect of Eva unit-3 that got infected by an angel and taken over (like how the Kaiju brains take over the mass produced Jaegers) So really this film directly rips off of two plot points of Evangelion without any of the build up and pay off to those moments.

[@GeorgeTsiros]

Straight out of evangelion. Not end of evangelion, specifically. The entire series is based on the premise of putting a leash on a monster. The evas aren't robots. They are animals, angels IIRC, wearing _restraints_ that look like armor.

[@draketurtle4169]

@@GeorgeTsiros Eva’s aren’t robots, but they are mechs just not the traditional mech. The Eva’s are angels yes, but humanity is also technically an angel (the 18th) as they are Lilins (the children of Lilith who had the fruit of knowledge) where as the angels came from Adam (who had the fruit of life) if we consider all of adams children as their own angels then humanity as children of an angel should thus be another angel. Humanity is a fractured angel of many parts, I guess this is kind of why the human instramentality project exists, it would return all humans back into LCL, the most raw component of their progenitor Lilith, and form the complete angel of humanity.

[@arsarma1808]

I was trying to refer to more the all white mass production evas in EoE specifically, yea h@@draketurtle4169

[@diemes5463]

They pulled the premise but forgot to include the meaning

[@josephhelgersonjoseph6115]

I would love to see a prequel film covering the early years of the Kaiju war. Perhaps even one about the first Kaiju attack on San Francisco.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

At this point, theyd be doing San Francisco a favor

[@TrashbashMan]

Cloverfield crossover event?

[@SpaceRaider.]

That should of been the next movie a horror film from the perspective of survivors of the first Kaiju attacks basically cloverfield.

[@frailvoid5844]

@@SpaceRaider. Damn that's a pretty dope idea!

[@janson2911]

I might be alone in this hill, but the idea of Newt getting corrupted is actually kinda genius. If done properly, the idea might work wonders. I mean, not every characters should be break down and build up for better. Goody two shoes characters going on a downward spiral to become evil could work, take example Joker. It's just that they handle it so poorly, it just doesn't make sense

[@c1a2m3o4m5a6n7]

You're not alone on that hill. I also like the concept but think it wasn't handled quite right in this movie.

[@Nobody-zl3kk]

The core ideas that people are angry with aren't bad really, Mako's helicopter death could have been very hard hitting if Riley came back, had this event happen before the start of the movie, flashback to it explaining why he doesn't even want to _see_ a Jaeger anymore The Earth's governments and companies building Jaegers is also cool, but making them have more weight and grit would be for the best, you can also explain why they are still making them (even if the kaijus are gone) by saying that the military industrial complex finds it too profitable, now earth is torn between those who want to weaponize the remains of kaijus (toxicity, bio engineering, you name it) and the countries who are pouring millions into weapons that are WMDs that _wont_ cause MAD. Newt's corruption... Literally just needs better and less cringy writing ya know?

[@MrDj232]

The Kaiju groupy getting addicted to drifting with a Kaiju does make sense. The bigger questions are, how did it possess him instead of just changing his personality, how did it have the knowledge to teach him anything (these things are weapons that only know where they came from and to destroy all humans), and where did he get all the Kaiju brains when they decay so quickly almost nobody could find one in the first movie.

[@Nobody-zl3kk]

@@MrDj232 it almost feels like the plot of this movie it's 4 plots smashed together with little to no coherence tbh.

[@Artemie-np3qu]

@@MrDj232 The Kaiju are a hive mind, and I’m pretty sure that the Precursors have access to it. In the first movie the Kaiju come get him specifically and I can only imagine on orders from the precursors. As for preservation I’m pretty sure that’s the same brain he drifted with in the first movie, so it was already in a preservation tank thing.

[@Rah514]

I really enjoyed the first Pacific Rim and tbh I had no idea there was ever a second one until right now. Almost a year after you posted this scathing video about it. I’m not doing the meme or pretending this didn’t exist. I legitimately did not know it existed. I’ll just join the rest of the folks who see this as corpo fanfic 😅

[@ShotgunDilo]

I will say, as one of the 3 people who watched the Pacific Rim anime, I really enjoyed it and felt it was a step in the right direction, even if it was a sequel to Uprising and had some frustrating plotholes. (Most of) the characters were likeable, the animation was gorgeous, and most of the time stuff felt like it had some weight to it. Lets hope future sequels don't screw up.

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

how are any of the characters not likeable and for plotholes who cares about the rest of the smuggler team all we care about is daddy smuggler

[@RebelsParadox]

Worth checking out if you liked the original?

[@zentaya999]

My guy, if Uprising was too deviated from the original, The Black just straight up goes to a whole different planet. From the second half of the first season forward it really felt like just some random story with the Pacific Rim name stuck onto it

[@zentaya999]

@@RebelsParadoxeh, not really, it very much deviates from the original. Kaiju nuns, a kid that can turn into a kaiju that has a connection to a half-kaiju half-jaeger, and the whole mind sharing thing being way more complicated, it feels even less like Pacific Rim than Uprising

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

@@RebelsParadox The series is really interesting its not like the movie but the concepts are filled with content to further explore someday

[@BlazingOwnager]

I will not lie. If The Boys ends with Edgar descending from the heavens in a mech suit to kick Homelander in the nuts, I am entirely there for it

[@davisdf3064]

Mech suits and Kicking Homelander's nuts actually seems to go pretty well

[@PixelHeroViish]

@@davisdf3064 We all just need to see Homelander getting kicked in the nuts

[@joeanderson8707]

That sounds like Edgar becomes Tek Knight lol

[@VictorIV0310]

Or Billy Butcher piloting an Armored Core.

[@ThetopGoat]

@@joeanderson8707I wonder if Tek Knight is who Jeffrey Dean Morgan will be playing?

[@SahilP2648]

The first movie has even to this day one of the best CGI I have ever seen. A lot of the aspects of fights when dealing with weight and huge towering monsters/robots they did perfectly.

[@calculator1841]

To me that's Gladiator. The scene with the master and Maximus is in jail, the dude playing the master was dead for months. So he was CGI's. I DID not know until CinemaSin pointed it out. Still, can't see the CGI ! Full movie for me would be Final Fantasy

[@SahilP2648]

@@calculator1841 I may need to watch some video on it again but it wasn't CGI but photoshop and video editing done on prerecorded footage.

[@ryanreviews8566]

Charlie Day yelling "none of you are strong enough" in his teenager voice still makes me laugh to this day

[@GeneralELL]

me and my friend drank A LOT before watching it in the theater, like a WHOLE LOT And we managed to watch it. I commented with him after the movie that it felt to me like those cartoon versions of 80s 90s movies where the original cast never appearead or only had short cameos and a group of ‘cool kids’ replaced them and all the action were more ‘kid friendly’

[@leandromadeireira8840]

Ok is a perfect representation

[@Techno_Bunny433]

Yeah that's basically it 😂

[@Senthain]

I completely forgot that this was a terrible phenomenon that at one point actually existed, christ.

[@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149]

Wait, it had a sequel? Nahh... April Fools must've come late this year. Impressive that you managed to animate all of these pacific rim-like shots to make us think there was a sequel, they look very professional!

[@thunderlighting2006]

Yeah I thought there was only that Netflix show I didn't know they tried to make a sequel

[@nightfalc0n826]

The Netflix show is the sequel now

[@r3dr4te963]

Eh, probably some clips were taken from some random video game movie or those mockbuster. Surprisingly high quality

[@Thegoatone23]

Buddy I’m very sorry for you

[@V4Chaz]

There is no sequel.

[@scottburns2671]

'If Scott Eastwood was a Jaeger his name would be Charisma Vortex.' Honestly that line from a random review has stayed with me more than any aspect of the film itself.

[@burureddo]

As someone who haven't seen Uprising and just clicked on this video, I'm saying; "It can't be that bad :)" As someone who have just seen this video, I'm saying; "It can't be that bad :'("

[@hasty-carnaage1518]

My buddy actually started with Uprising. Somehow he missed the first and fell in love with the second. I made him watch the first and explained alot of the situation behind the fandom basically agreeing there is no second movie. He fought for a while but he agrees now

[@pipidudu2023]

yeah if i never watched the first one the second one seems okay,but damn the first one is just *chef kiss

[@tuanas458]

@@pipidudu2023 the pov of the the jaegers punch in the bgenning. *chefs kiss

[@thomashaverford4073]

glad he’s seen the light

[@SwordBotMk3]

I won't deny that the first movie was great, but I'm also not afraid to admit that I actually enjoyed Uprising. You could've let your friend keep believing...

[@hasty-carnaage1518]

@SwordBotMk3 nah. Second movie was beyond trash. I'm sick of badass stories getting shit on by terrible writing. The second movie made no sense. "We got monsters attacking the world again... BRING OUT THE TEENAGERS" Fuck off. The first movie had weight to it. You actually felt like it was the last stand against the Kaijus. End of days feeling. Uprising had the robots moving like straight up ninjas and athletes. Which makes absolutely no sense. The Jaegers had no weight to them. There were also Jaeger police? That's just beyond a ridiculous concept. Just everything about the second sucks major balls. It's sure looks cool at parts. I really liked the scene where the giant kaiju got cut in half because he couldn't get through the portal in time. But small good things doesn't make a good movie.

[@alterac1541]

Del toro's raw ideas for the sequel actually not that bad. Its normal when a director have that wild ideas because they'll definitely fix and upgrade it in writing session mid production. If its got executed properly the whole paradox thing are a really neat concept. Kinda remind me of how Evangelion series work where Del Toro took some reference for Pacific Rim

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

Yeah it’s a crazy idea, but also pretty cool to imagine that the Precursors are future humans in bio-mechanical mech suits. And why they would be willing to murder their anscestors really intrigued me. If anyone could make it work, Del Toro could.

[@alexcoffey8804]

John Boyega and Idris Elba playing a prodigal son and hard ass dad working through their differences with the adopted sister/daughter caught in the middle would have added so much humanity to a story that's supposed to be about the strength of humanity.

[@repulser93]

Honestly, if I'd done a Pacific Rim movie, I'd find a way to bring back Mako and Raleigh, and have them and Jake triple drift a Jaeger against what would essentially be the love child of the Anti-Spiral, King Ghidorah, and Zeruel. I'd just love to see those three interact.

[@3takoyakis]

Imagine being a son so disappointing that your father, a war hero and respectable commander prefer to love the adopted daughter more than you That shit hard and should have explored more.

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

I would've made a prequel starring John Boyega as a young Pentecost. Something more dramatic like Gundam, where the crews just keep dying and piloting the Jaegers is slowly killing the pilots. But the idea of having those two (three (four counting Raleigh) on screen interacting is honestly better. I imagine Raleigh just telling Pentecost something like "holy shit my man, I wish my brother was still here, and you treat your own son like that?" But don't know how to make that work since, again, the first movie ended in such a high note that there's little room for a sequel, and a prequel where Jake just goes missing into a plot hole and he's literally never mentioned again just ain't it...

[@jtho8937]

​@@3takoyakisreal Asian dad moment

[@alexcoffey8804]

@@3takoyakis This unironically reminds me of Godzilla VS Kong. The man that pilots Mecha G is Dr. Serizawa's son. He's driven by his hatred of godzilla because his father loved a monster more than him. He also blames Godzilla for his father's death. The movie does NOTHING with this. Still irks me.

[@Suger5zero]

The reason why the Chinese corporation was written as the hero. Was because this script was written for a chinese audience. And in china businesses are part of the government. And In China, the government is beyond criticism.

[@Zombiewithabowtie]

The biggest sin for me wasn't the intentional collateral damage to the city by the Jaegers, or the disconnect between the Pilot and the Jaeger's movements, or the disrespect to Newton or Mako - it was the moment one of the Pilots of the Jaeger Bracer Phoenix dropped out of the cockpit, and jumped into a chest mounted turret to hammer away at the attacking Kaiju, and the other Pilot didnt immediately have an aneurysm. The Drift was such a vital part of Pacific Rim, with so much potential. Stacker's last words, "You can always find me in the Drift" was an open invitation for Mako to remember vital advice from him in the second act, but nope, she was better off in an easily avoidable helicopter crash.

[@thecommentsofyoutube7265]

Writers didn’t give a damn

[@cmoney3163]

This was a good Alternate History Hub episode. I certainly didn't expect "What if there was a Pacific Rim sequel?"

[@kroww5h848]

Wild to think they're using a different channel as well. Truly masters of alternative history.

[@dragon_ninja_2186]

23:26 “You know… sometimes things just aren’t meant to have sequels.” Enough said. Especially for this!

[@ElwoodBls42]

I bought this Blu-ray without having read or seen anything about it and couldn't even finish it; it's still haunting me on the shelf!

[@yourtimetraveleralara]

Wow he is reviewing this fan-film! Too bad there was never a sequel to the movie!

[@WhatDillionYT]

indeed.

[@o.v.m._part_1]

Forgot about Pacific Rim The Black? that was one

[@yourtimetraveleralara]

@@o.v.m._part_1 holy shit i forget about that anime btw

[@svijj_]

13:51 Wait you DIDN'T?! Oh my lord, thank God this is just a fanfiction

[@Shft-T4b]

Like a lot of other people have suggested, we could have had a Pacific Rim prequel showing the beginning of the Jaeger Program. The start can be about the increasing threat of the Kaijus and humanity's ineffective means of defending against them, and how 'the world came together and pooled its resources'. Could have even had the main character be a younger Stacker Pentecost experiencing the beginning of the Kaiju War and how he became a Mark I Jaeger Pilot, building up to his climatic solo fight in a Jaeger.

[@shealupkes]

The mark 1 Era is described as equally glorious and dangerous with the program making due with the best tech the world can provide still not saving them most of the time, but noooo we wanted power Rangers and evil Jaegers and John boyega

[@elijahalbiston]

Now hang on @shealupkes we could have still seen John Boyega. The guy is a good actor when given the right material and he actually could've played a young Pentecost.

[@shealupkes]

@@elijahalbiston I would have preferred John boyega play a young Pentecost over the wierd self insert style role he was shoved into

[@QuatroXEspada]

I cant believe you made an entire hollywood blockbuster to make a video essay, thats commintment

[@zackanderson7440]

To be fair “people are the real monsters” is a very common theme in kajiu movies. so Del toro wasn’t completely off tone from his og pitch there.