Pacquiao vs Marquez - Who Won The Rivalry?

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@Handle35667
@Handle35667 5 жыл бұрын
Rummy: let’s breakdown every round in all 4 fights. Me: 😃😃😃
@boxingclassics3833
@boxingclassics3833 3 жыл бұрын
He dont know how to analyse and score... especially in th3 first and 3rd fight.. he is always on favored on marquez
@harrymills2770
@harrymills2770 2 жыл бұрын
@@boxingclassics3833 Marquez does a lot of body work that doesn't grab the eye, but slowly changes the terms of the engagement. If you notice those shots, more, then Manny dropping his right and giving up on his jab is happening for a reason, and not just a tactical error. I tend to give more weight to hard body punches, maybe more than I should. I think both fighters learned from each other. Manny found someone he couldn't just overwhelm and who punished him every time he left himself open. Marquez knew his strategy had to involve weathering a storm of punishment. I think fighting Manny 4 times showed he was no coward, but also convinced him 4 was enough. He had to take a lot of shots to win any of those fights, and I bet his head didn't feel right for a month after, if ever.
@Krystalmyth
@Krystalmyth 2 жыл бұрын
@@boxingclassics3833 This is a 🤡 take lol. Did you not see how by the 4th fight he has them dead even? XD
@chesster423
@chesster423 5 жыл бұрын
I always thought Marquez is Pacquaio's ultimate nemesis.
@Michaelw777.52
@Michaelw777.52 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty much the most exciting; well matched against each other for their fighting styles. Manny gets most of the attention, but Marquez was no slouch either.
@rm3869
@rm3869 5 жыл бұрын
He is
@wappaman1784
@wappaman1784 4 жыл бұрын
pffft. Pacquiao, with a little more controlled pace and style, would have 4 wins. Nothing against Marquez, he's excellent in his own right, but he's no Pacquiao...
@abugonapugonamugonarug1653
@abugonapugonamugonarug1653 4 жыл бұрын
WappaMan 1 I agree but let’s not discredit Marquez, he was definitely Pac-Man’s greatest rival/competitor Edit: Marquez’s KO on Pacquiao was no fluke, he timed him perfectly
@mikelomez9313
@mikelomez9313 4 жыл бұрын
@@abugonapugonamugonarug1653 True but IMO that fight shouldn't have even happened
@m.jonardylan2785
@m.jonardylan2785 5 жыл бұрын
Marquez is Pacquiao's nemesis. So much respect for this Mexican fighter who has a lion heart. Was knocked down so many times but always stood up on his feet. 0 knockout losses
@christinarodriguez3007
@christinarodriguez3007 5 жыл бұрын
best way to explain this rivalry is 3 fights were razor thin and the 4th one was crystal clear
@incognitobrown7782
@incognitobrown7782 4 жыл бұрын
But it could very easily have been crystal clear the other way. Pac-Man was dominant and with each of his victory being questioned, he pushed for a KO when he should have just won on points or wait for an opening as opposed to pushing for it.
@motoduu6647
@motoduu6647 4 жыл бұрын
Was a clearly lucky!
@Ryanbwin
@Ryanbwin 4 жыл бұрын
Manny won the first fight, he won the second fight the knockdown being the difference, I don't understand the controversy following the third fight Manny outlanded Marquez and he threw more punches, Manny should not have given Marquez the fourth fight but Manny got KO. I was at the second fight if Manny would have stepped up the pace he could have possibly stopped Marquez, the word is Manny had to lose five pounds the day before the weigh in, Manny also lacked killer instinct in the fight something we saw from him later in his career, the third fight was fought at a faster pace than was the second. Juan Manuel Marquez hung his hat on that KO then got beat by Bradley, Pacquiao is still a champion nine years after the KO that KO and his loss to Horn and the way he was robbed in the first Bradley fight are the only blemishes on a hall of fame career no one will match what Pacquiao has done in our lifetime Marquez will be in the bleachers when Pacquiao is inducted into the Hall of Fame.
@tommoloney5961
@tommoloney5961 4 жыл бұрын
Incognito Brown but he wasn’t dominant in the first 3 fights a lot of people don’t think he won any of them
@JOSEPH-vs2gc
@JOSEPH-vs2gc 4 жыл бұрын
1-dimensional analysis. Both are amazing, one guy got clipped in a bad moment. could've been either guy. It just so happened to be Paquiao's turn to Fall.
@therealrickytan
@therealrickytan 5 жыл бұрын
Both fighters went down very different paths in boxing, but their bouts were like checkpoints where they would check each other's progress in skill. Amazing stuff, and we are lucky to have witnessed the arguably greatest rivalry in boxing history.
@shewantmydinero7254
@shewantmydinero7254 5 жыл бұрын
therealrickytan Barrera v Morales was amazing too
@ITHADchannel
@ITHADchannel 5 жыл бұрын
The best quadrilogy of all time! This is a fine example of "styles make fights".
@donnyjones6717
@donnyjones6717 4 жыл бұрын
How many quadrilogies have there really been in boxing not that many so to sae this is the best is like saying cta is the best public transportation in chicago well how many public transportation services is there in chicago and I dont mean uber or lyft cause that's everywhere and greyhound is country wide
@jksteezy5218
@jksteezy5218 4 жыл бұрын
@@donnyjones6717 sugar ray Robinson and willie pep had great quadrilogies and back in 20s 30s 40s people faught so often and had so many rematches
@scottyoung5542
@scottyoung5542 3 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that you aren't familiar with pre 60s boxing.
@bobcocampo
@bobcocampo 3 жыл бұрын
A 5th match would have been better
@verndavenportjr.2109
@verndavenportjr.2109 3 жыл бұрын
@@jksteezy5218 right..but that's being a real boxing fan
@theheronoonegivesashitabou3459
@theheronoonegivesashitabou3459 5 жыл бұрын
These 2 are boxing gods. The amount of actual BOXING going on in their 2nd-4th fights were like climax of an action movie.
@billygonzalez9245
@billygonzalez9245 4 жыл бұрын
No matter who you believe won this rivalry, everyone must agree on this: This is one of the greatest rivalries in the history of boxing. If not the greatest.
@joshuajarod1909
@joshuajarod1909 2 жыл бұрын
Ali V Frazier
@jamesrobert4106
@jamesrobert4106 Ай бұрын
I am going to put Ward / Gatti in the mix for pure exhilaration.
@DXTokusatsu
@DXTokusatsu 5 жыл бұрын
Good times, I miss this era of boxing!
@kingwamarada3451
@kingwamarada3451 4 жыл бұрын
Watch Vasily Lomachenko
@mr.t658
@mr.t658 5 жыл бұрын
What Juan Manuel Marquez did in the fourth fight was nothing short of legendary
@richardb6510
@richardb6510 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah..He got super jacked up on PED
@LouieOcean2
@LouieOcean2 5 жыл бұрын
Richard B u mad bro?
@jmc2235
@jmc2235 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly!! Was historic how roided up Marquez got!!!
@donnyjones6717
@donnyjones6717 4 жыл бұрын
@@jmc2235 as if pacman dont use special drinks to help him get strength you call that a protein shake I think not
@deadarmd
@deadarmd 4 жыл бұрын
Gain ten pounds of muscle somehow?
@zodiacloveteam
@zodiacloveteam 5 жыл бұрын
Excellently done. I always rooted for Pacman, but always understood always that Marquez was his kryptonite in a way. It was always a bad match up for him.
@kentmarquez4929
@kentmarquez4929 5 жыл бұрын
yet he never pussied out against his kryptonite. he ended up losing the last fight without question, but he never let it become the shameful end of his career like he did to others, instead he pushed through and still got himself great victories
@Michaelw777.52
@Michaelw777.52 5 жыл бұрын
I think just the opposite. Without a super-tough opponent like JMM to test his mettle, he might have been more careless in other fights, or not even stepped up to other weight classes to destroy rivals there. But I can agree with you that Marquez was a kryptonite fighter for him - but JMM was an elite fighter in his own right - it was no accident he was such a tough opponent for Manny. This series was some of the best boxing to be had, period.
@dredgewalker
@dredgewalker 4 жыл бұрын
@@Michaelw777.52 Same with Marquez, Manny made him a better boxer too and in the end both boxers made each other evolve. I have huge respect for both fighters equally
@mikelomez9313
@mikelomez9313 4 жыл бұрын
@Midnightrambler3760 I never understand Mayweather fans need to paint that fight as a dominant win for Mayweather. He barely edged out Manny on points, Manny hurt him Mayweather did not hurt Manny and basically Manny chased him all over the place for 12 rounds. Should have fought a lot earlier but Mayweather dodged him forcing Manny to take a fourth fight where Marquez caught him and Manny was never as aggressive going forward. That's when Mayweather decided to finally take the fight. Should have been a rematch but again Mayweather dodged, retired and now he fights amateurs when he needs the money
@alfredocubelo1109
@alfredocubelo1109 4 жыл бұрын
@Midnightrambler3760 Yeah, and Mayweather is a professional, a professioanl RUNNER!! HAHAHAHHAHAHA
@jzero3g
@jzero3g 5 жыл бұрын
i thought pac won fight 1 and 2. marquez won 3 and 4...but that k.o. made sure that marquez won the rivalry
@mhmd-gu2ei
@mhmd-gu2ei 5 жыл бұрын
No Pacman and marquiz fought 4 times First fight drow Second fight pacman won Third fight pacman won And the fight number 4 marquiz won
@itsthemuscledad38
@itsthemuscledad38 5 жыл бұрын
i dont think so. marquez didnt win the 3rd fight and winning the last fight doesnt mean u won the rivalry.
@artdelgado6678
@artdelgado6678 5 жыл бұрын
Itsthemuscledad That is just your opinion buddy
@supakid3128
@supakid3128 5 жыл бұрын
@@mhmd-gu2ei That is the facts, whether people like it or not.
@ianosaurus27
@ianosaurus27 5 жыл бұрын
@@itsthemuscledad38 the Knock Out defined the Rivalry. Pacquiao laying face down motionless is the moment that stands out the most.
@randalflagg3765
@randalflagg3765 5 жыл бұрын
"Oh. Rummy posted a new video. Wait an hour ago? And its 40min. On Pacquiao & Marquez?!?" You made this west coast late nighter's night.
@thomascowen8833
@thomascowen8833 5 жыл бұрын
At the start or 2020 I think you should do a 2010s heavyweight chronology please or a riddick bowe Holyfield fight by fight analysis
@aarontaylor5964
@aarontaylor5964 5 жыл бұрын
Good idea pal
@freezhollywood
@freezhollywood 5 жыл бұрын
tht heavyweight one would start off good get really really really boring then get decent
@Fadeddreams5
@Fadeddreams5 5 жыл бұрын
Personally, I had Pacquiao winning the first two matches and Marquez winning the last two. 2-2, in my eyes.
@pharnstv4818
@pharnstv4818 5 жыл бұрын
But if not with the stupid judges that scored 10-7 instead of 10-6 for pacquaio. There would never be 3rd and 4th fight.. That would end to thr rivalry..with Manny winning 2 fights..
@mauricewillims1656
@mauricewillims1656 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with that it was do mice to see pacman koed Cold lol
@javiercarrillo8208
@javiercarrillo8208 5 жыл бұрын
Cesar Malubay 🙄
@GuerreroDelInfo
@GuerreroDelInfo 4 жыл бұрын
Marquez had memo heredia in his camp for 3rd and 4th fights
@sevach
@sevach 4 жыл бұрын
@@pharnstv4818 After 3 fights official results were 2-1-0 and people still weren't satisfied, so...
@danielarellano7186
@danielarellano7186 5 жыл бұрын
Marquez took it in my opinion. Cuz he took it away from d judges. With a big knockout. 👊😁.
@khabibs.shoootrufc2297
@khabibs.shoootrufc2297 5 жыл бұрын
@SonOfOdin 88 so he failed a drug test
@madhurjyaboruah6596
@madhurjyaboruah6596 4 жыл бұрын
Lol he is afraid. That was a luck. He refused to fight Manny again . He can't do a shit to Bradley and Mayweather and look what Pacquiao. Marquez was fighting like a punching bag against Mayweather 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
@nessodap8409
@nessodap8409 3 жыл бұрын
Madhurjya Boruah foh he caught em wit that right, if it was a lucky punch pac woulda woke up 😂
@ARMYEXERCISE
@ARMYEXERCISE 5 жыл бұрын
The only 8 division world champion in history. The only 5 division "Lineal" champion in history. The "Oldest" Welterweight world champion in history. The only elected "Congressman / Senator" and a World Champion in history. 3x Fighter of the Year Fighter of the Decade Defeated 22 World champions (As of July 20, 2019).
@jamesrobert4106
@jamesrobert4106 Ай бұрын
Tale of the tape...One of the greatest boxers in history.
@cindymananzalamartinez6679
@cindymananzalamartinez6679 5 жыл бұрын
Boxing's Gokou and Vegeta. Their fight level is over 9000
@ToneysReviews
@ToneysReviews 5 жыл бұрын
Really? Then what does that make Mayweather? The omni king?
@gadgetreviewunlimited9361
@gadgetreviewunlimited9361 5 жыл бұрын
@@ToneysReviews omni king? Does that character hit and run?
@vladdrac8054
@vladdrac8054 5 жыл бұрын
@@ToneysReviews yall know what happened between him and pacman...the judges and commentators won that fight
@christinarodriguez3007
@christinarodriguez3007 5 жыл бұрын
@@gadgetreviewunlimited9361 u clearly dont know shit about boxing lmao floyd landed more punches than pac in their fight if anything it was manny who made the fight boring cause he kept missing his offense
@inspirace6435
@inspirace6435 5 жыл бұрын
goku*
@ccanaves
@ccanaves 5 жыл бұрын
Legend has it that they are still fighting today
@captinafro2320
@captinafro2320 4 жыл бұрын
Carlos M. Canavessi till dis day
@ff-rs3ji
@ff-rs3ji 4 жыл бұрын
@@captinafro2320 till this fucking day
@bersanderdiyok1247
@bersanderdiyok1247 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@EmjayDTube
@EmjayDTube 5 жыл бұрын
Two rivals with total respect for each other's hardwork. By far the best rivalry in their era and I think its the best rivalry since Ali and Frazier. I am totally a Pacman fan, but I also respect Marquez's skills and talents.
@MrChillidee
@MrChillidee 5 жыл бұрын
Very good brake down of all 4 fights thanks Rummy keep em coming....
@AngelicusImmortus
@AngelicusImmortus 5 жыл бұрын
Stiopic was just. the Game. I think
@maryjoyvequizo6361
@maryjoyvequizo6361 3 жыл бұрын
Fight 1 - Pacquiao Fight 2 - Pacquiao Fight 3 - Pacquiao Fight 4 - Heredia
@KLFD530
@KLFD530 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know man, I'm not convinced that marquez won that 4th fight.
@joesoto690
@joesoto690 5 жыл бұрын
You're an idiot.
@edwardsarinana1997
@edwardsarinana1997 4 жыл бұрын
33:30 ENOUGH said, of being CONVINCED or NOT WANTED to be CONVINCED! A KNOCKOUT is A KNOCKOUT! The conclusion of A QUADRILOGY!
@LENARD0218
@LENARD0218 3 жыл бұрын
Not convinced because of dirty tactics not clean knockout
@angusjeff
@angusjeff 3 жыл бұрын
Without that knockout, Marquez will not win.
@roldanmanuel5232
@roldanmanuel5232 5 жыл бұрын
I am Pacquiao fans I think Marquez was the strongest fighter Pacquiao face
@jordi-oz5mp
@jordi-oz5mp 3 жыл бұрын
The same though here
@bud2829
@bud2829 5 жыл бұрын
If the judges got the decision right in the first fight, i doubt that the trilogy would have happened. #fact
@josemezatorrez
@josemezatorrez 4 жыл бұрын
The ref should have DQ Pacquiao for hitting Marquez when he was down on the canvas in the first round, that is automatic DQ or minimum one point deduction. Watch Norris vs Santana get DQ for the same thing Pac did.
@josemezatorrez
@josemezatorrez 4 жыл бұрын
You must be mad? That was a taxi. Close fight, even if Pac has won this would be a demand for a rematch because neither one dominated the fights till the 4th .💤
@michaeldatijan946
@michaeldatijan946 4 жыл бұрын
true.....
@mikelomez9313
@mikelomez9313 4 жыл бұрын
If Mayweather never dodged Pacquiao the fourth fight never would have happened. But honestly who gives a guy a third freaking rematch after you beat him twice in a row?! And the guys style gives you trouble? Pacquiao's willingness to fight literally every top contender which I admire, is what screwed him here.
@mrich1625
@mrich1625 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikelomez9313 how did he fuck him when pac refused to do the vada testing?
@joeriver1562
@joeriver1562 5 жыл бұрын
Min 3:09 same move that sent Pacquiao packing on last fight
@aggressivepipeearth6743
@aggressivepipeearth6743 5 жыл бұрын
Martha Fabian You called it. Good eye.
@Bigsalsupinsmokebbq
@Bigsalsupinsmokebbq 5 жыл бұрын
Martha Fabian I’ve been saying this for years
@Hetstaine
@Hetstaine 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, except Pac wasn't moving in as aggressively and didn't cop the full brunt of it :)
@PhyuckYu619
@PhyuckYu619 5 жыл бұрын
What a great rivalry. Watching this makes me realize how much I miss seeing JMM in the ring. I only called one of these fights a bad decision and that was the third. Respect to two legends of the ring.
@vingram100
@vingram100 3 жыл бұрын
Pacman wins, he won the first three and this rivalry was meant to take out the champ after he lost his chin.
@MrEddie8313
@MrEddie8313 5 жыл бұрын
When it comes to the old rivalry, I think Marquez won. But at the end of the day, Pacquiao proves to be the real Champion as he's still fighting and active until now, let alone that Marquez rejected Pacquiao's request for a 5th rematch, which only proves Marquez' unfairness ! ... 👑👑👑
@oscarmarroquin4374
@oscarmarroquin4374 5 жыл бұрын
He knocked him out cold! That's it Marquez has nothing left prove to anybody. He put his greatest rival to sleep. Stop it.
@richardanthonyperez
@richardanthonyperez 4 жыл бұрын
Marquez still feels guilty about using PEDs for the fourth fight so he shamed himself from accepting that purse for the fifth fight
@drawingacescomicsgroup
@drawingacescomicsgroup 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing how even after all this time Pacman fans are still crying and making excuses for him getting ko'd.
@HerNick07
@HerNick07 5 жыл бұрын
Styles makes fights. Pacquiao is clearly the greater fighter but Marquez matched up very well with Pacquiao. Great rivalry. Marquez wins the rivalry while Pacquiao wins the legacy. One of the greatest to do it all time.
@samhonglee1097
@samhonglee1097 3 жыл бұрын
2-1-1 for manny so how marquez won that rivalry?
@AlonSOAMAZING
@AlonSOAMAZING 5 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video of Jose Luis Castillo vs mayweather 1 please ?
@Universem2
@Universem2 5 жыл бұрын
Please rummy!!!
@joesoto690
@joesoto690 5 жыл бұрын
Why? Castillo whooped the Cakeboy Floyd all over the place.
@Kevin-zj9rn
@Kevin-zj9rn 5 жыл бұрын
Joe Soto lol stop it even if u think Castillo won it was t by a landslide lmao that fight was really close where it could have gone either way so please stop showing ur hate towards Floyd 😂
@josemezatorrez
@josemezatorrez 4 жыл бұрын
Close? Castillo outlanded Mayhugger Jr by over 72 power punches. Like Floyd says, Numbers don’t lie.
@warriorshub3479
@warriorshub3479 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kevin-zj9rn close my ass. Maidana vs Mayweather was very close, Delahoya vs Mayweather was very close but Castillo vs Mayweather was not even close. Castillo won it easily. I can still remember watching that fight and everyone thought that although Mayweather is way more talented than Castillo, the latter manages to take the former to school with timely shots.
@re_i_gn
@re_i_gn 5 жыл бұрын
Marquez won the rivalry but Pacquiao overall has a better career.
@ShifuCareaga
@ShifuCareaga 5 жыл бұрын
this is correct.
@Jay-kb9mt
@Jay-kb9mt 5 жыл бұрын
imagine if there is a fifth fight? so even rivalry will be endangered XD good decision by marquez to duck it
@richx121
@richx121 5 жыл бұрын
4 fight 1 draw 2 pac win 1 marquez win U say marquez won stupid people!! Pac legend
@user-ht4mo5sj5q
@user-ht4mo5sj5q 5 жыл бұрын
Still puzzles me why your not the top boxing channel on here
@andyallom4357
@andyallom4357 5 жыл бұрын
Anything you produce is compulsory viewing. Fantastic end to my evening. Thank you again Rummy.
@bigghago
@bigghago 5 жыл бұрын
yeah hes good
@lalahfresco2881
@lalahfresco2881 5 жыл бұрын
Whew! Video was as epic as the fights. :) loved it! Manny Pacquiao said if he can go back and changed any of his past fights he definitely wont change his Losses esp to eric morales and Marquez. He learned in his losses and it helped him be the extraordinary fighter that he is today. Even winning against the new era of boxers today
@shahbazsheikh3545
@shahbazsheikh3545 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting the work and effort into doing this Rummy.
@patbronske22
@patbronske22 5 жыл бұрын
Marquez was a nightmare matchup for manny and Mayweather was a nightmare matchup for Marquez
@Montoya1991
@Montoya1991 5 жыл бұрын
Yes Marquez was a defensive fighter which was perfect bto defeat the aggressive pacquiao, both may and Marquez were defensive fighters which means 1 of the 2 would have to leave their comfort zone to put a fight and that had to be Marquez.
@jimduhaylungsod7679
@jimduhaylungsod7679 5 жыл бұрын
And mayweather was the all time ducks
@juanrmz8436
@juanrmz8436 5 жыл бұрын
@Madhujya Burhagohain with catch weight and 20 lbs over juan manuel u fucken dumb ass get your bitch ass outta here
@bigghago
@bigghago 5 жыл бұрын
@@jimduhaylungsod7679 how he beat them both with ease?
@bigghago
@bigghago 5 жыл бұрын
@@juanrmz8436 why he take the fight ? stfu with the post fight excuses before everyone said hed floor floyd like they did for canelo too! he was 20 lbs bigger then floyd so was cotto
@oakland2425
@oakland2425 5 жыл бұрын
Rummy, you have the benefit of time, slow motion and replay so wouldn't you say your scoring quality is much better than all of the judges? You can count exactly how many punches connects, with how much power, etc.
@anthonyanderson9303
@anthonyanderson9303 5 жыл бұрын
Does he ever say that's how he judges the fights? I always assumed he watched the fights in real time and scored them accordingly.
@dianatriv29
@dianatriv29 5 жыл бұрын
@Anthony Anderson show the whole fight 1-4 one by one..rummy is feeling smart
@boxingclassics3833
@boxingclassics3833 4 жыл бұрын
@@dianatriv29 i believe Pacquiao won the first clearly and the 3rd one,, the 2nd fight is close i score it 113 ,114 for Pacquiao because of knockdown.. , but the 7 and 11 round is very confusing to score this fight will gone either way.
@warriorshub3479
@warriorshub3479 4 жыл бұрын
@@boxingclassics3833 I agree with you. 1st and 3rd fight were both Pacs but the second one was very close. The only difference was the knockdown.
@jonathan2538
@jonathan2538 5 жыл бұрын
Rum master i have a suggestion video . Make a video on which boxers YOU think could’ve beat mayweather jr.
@lukebashian5591
@lukebashian5591 5 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Hagler and Hearns
@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi
@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi 5 жыл бұрын
Luis Castillo?
@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi
@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi 5 жыл бұрын
Many fighters could've beaten him. Hell I think Thurman or Porter would've given him tons of trouble in their primes.
@Kevin-zj9rn
@Kevin-zj9rn 5 жыл бұрын
Jonathan yea that would be Interesting
@Mandarintoenail1
@Mandarintoenail1 5 жыл бұрын
FuckYouSaur I was gonna come in here to say, you mean like Castillo? That dude won that fight. Boxing’s fishyness gave it to Mayweather instead. I’ve never respected his record bragging especially after saying he’s like Marciano. Marciano didn’t fight a non-boxer to pad his numbers. Mayweather is the greatest marketer, but not the greatest boxer...
@daniellatteo_thefilmmaker
@daniellatteo_thefilmmaker 5 жыл бұрын
Fight Number 1 and 4 were stuff of legends!! Probably among the 10-15 best ever fights in all boxing history.
@virgilioisaaccabreravelazq8842
@virgilioisaaccabreravelazq8842 5 жыл бұрын
Excwelente análisis de una de las series más dramáticas del siglo. Muy interesante el ver las tarjetas y tratar de entender los criterios de los jueces. Felicitaciones por hacernos ver el boxeo golpe por golpe, técnicas y desarrollos de las peleas. Saludos
@semperfidelis7263
@semperfidelis7263 5 жыл бұрын
*I appreciate the effort and passion youve given to create this video. I hope you can make an in depth analysis of Pac-Bradley 1 and Pac-Mayweather* More power
@marktime9235
@marktime9235 5 жыл бұрын
Great work as ever Rummy. One of the best series ever, and I agree with your analysis. IMHO Marquez was the GOAT of counter punching.
@My19812011
@My19812011 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Time you’d have Marquez as a better counter puncher than Mayweather or Whittaker ?
@brocklanders3616
@brocklanders3616 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, he had more pop. Whitaker created opportunity from elite level defense, as does Mayweather. Both are better boxers, but Marquez' counters were nothing short of amazing.
@billybob9961
@billybob9961 5 жыл бұрын
Great video as always please keep them coming
@a_bb_a6356
@a_bb_a6356 5 жыл бұрын
Thought you’d never upload again Rummy. Welcome back
@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi
@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi 5 жыл бұрын
He uploaded last week man...
@yakovpetrovich7682
@yakovpetrovich7682 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rummy's Corner for this thoughtful analysis. Pacquiao Marquez - Legendary! One of the greatest rivalries in the history of boxing and all of sport - in the same class as Ali/Frazier, Robinson/LaMotta, Yankees/RedSox, Packers/Bears! What a display of extreme human endeavor, and testament to courage, grit, and determination. All and all this 4 fight rivalry is an inspiration and what makes sports great.
@BossAlbatross
@BossAlbatross 5 жыл бұрын
my favorite boxers of all time (bias since this was my era, no disrespect to the "4 horseman in boxing" back in the days) 1.Pacquiao "Pacman" 2.Marquez "Dynamita" 3.Barrera "Baby Face Assassin" 4.Morales "El Terrible"
@ericktellez7632
@ericktellez7632 3 жыл бұрын
And Floyd defeated 2 of them. Man he was boring to watch but the guy was insanely good.
@thegrindpodcastwithdanielr3781
@thegrindpodcastwithdanielr3781 5 жыл бұрын
I asked for this one, great job and thank you!
@markcollins6635
@markcollins6635 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge Pacman fan, but Marquez won the rivalry. Marquez is not a better boxer than Pacman, its just Pacman's style is made for Marquez's giving him the advantage in all their battles. I do think the current Pacman beats any version of Marquez, for his less aggressive style.
@anakinstarlord
@anakinstarlord 5 жыл бұрын
Totally agreed.
@stevenmendoza5621
@stevenmendoza5621 5 жыл бұрын
Bullshit. Paquiao is a southpaw. That is an advantage. Especially for a fast, hard combination puncher.
@angrut
@angrut 2 жыл бұрын
Totally opposite
@sgberta
@sgberta 5 жыл бұрын
Very fair and reasonable scoring. I always thought it was odd hearing people say Marquez got robbed in the first three fights. The first three fights couldn't have been any closer and could have easily gone either way.
@HalDanGhor
@HalDanGhor 5 жыл бұрын
5:07 Fight #1, but the SAME right hand that sent Pacquiao down for the first time in fight #4.
@VAHOSS
@VAHOSS 5 жыл бұрын
You must not have watched fight 4, because it was laser straight right that knocked Pacquiao out.. totally different punch. Besides this was right after the Pacquiao needle controversy
@ondadeadlocs3711
@ondadeadlocs3711 5 жыл бұрын
damn, he didn't learn from that fight
@ronaldpadilla1201
@ronaldpadilla1201 5 жыл бұрын
@@VAHOSS He is talking about the Knockdown in the 3rd, read carefully.
@ronaldpadilla1201
@ronaldpadilla1201 5 жыл бұрын
@@VAHOSS i
@danielturner7015
@danielturner7015 5 жыл бұрын
Well said, and an excellent review of an epic rivalry. I personally never got tired of watching them fight each other.
@FlipWarBucks
@FlipWarBucks 5 жыл бұрын
See the look on CJ Ross's face in the last fight as Pac hits the floor? That look says "dam, I was hoping I could rob him on the cards".
@bigghago
@bigghago 5 жыл бұрын
priceless! he prob was thinking about not getting the floyd fight after all that time
@peterstern5266
@peterstern5266 Жыл бұрын
Rummy, this was a GREAT collective of edited videos and definitely your excellent technical and intelligent views and narrative of this amazing quadrilogy!!! Really an excellent job! Thank you!!!
@RummysCorner
@RummysCorner Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Cheers!
@Deuce1042
@Deuce1042 5 жыл бұрын
Manny would've won the 1st fight if one of the judges correctly scored the 1st round a 10-6.
@pharnstv4818
@pharnstv4818 5 жыл бұрын
@lo_V uis if that stupid judges scored it correctly.. There would be no 3rd and 4th fight. And would end the rivalry with Manny winning 2 fights.. its a shame to ask for 3rd fight if u lose twice.. lol
@iceman_3825
@iceman_3825 5 жыл бұрын
That's was a great breakdown rummy! Looking forward to your next breakdown!
@IskurBlast
@IskurBlast 5 жыл бұрын
On my card after 9 in the third fight I had it 5 rounds to 4 for Marquez. Then Nacho told Marquez he had the fight in the bag and to take his foot off the gas. I ended up 115-113 for Paquiao. Huge mistake by Nacho.
@mountaindew3201
@mountaindew3201 2 жыл бұрын
Also in the 4th fight Marquez was badly hurt despite KD Pac-Man in rd 3. By the 5th if I were the ref perhaps I’d stopped and many pundits said that the 4th fight wouldn’t go full distance since Marquez was baldy Burt. But all 4 fights were great
@paulchester4135
@paulchester4135 5 жыл бұрын
Awsome content dude! Love it! :)
@borisgrenier178
@borisgrenier178 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing job, like always... Congratulations, and thank you !
@RenzoWJohn
@RenzoWJohn 5 жыл бұрын
It’s like boxing history nostalgia 🔥you’re awesome
@giovannyc3886
@giovannyc3886 5 жыл бұрын
Marquez was indeed a pacman style killer. I would love to see a 5th fight more than s boring rematch against Mayweather!
@brettlevin8181
@brettlevin8181 5 жыл бұрын
Best boxing channel on youtube. Not even close.
@jhay-arjohnradones5761
@jhay-arjohnradones5761 5 жыл бұрын
Pacquiao is better because he has the balls to give marquez 3 rematch.
@MrYib
@MrYib 5 жыл бұрын
That makes no sense, especially given Pac waited til he thought Marquez was old enough to beat decisively.
@nickeljoyadams9563
@nickeljoyadams9563 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. Pac gave him 3 rematches but he did not give Pac one rematch because he knew he will be beaten.
@Montoya1991
@Montoya1991 5 жыл бұрын
Rematch to what exactly? Pacquiao only won 1 of the 4 fights...
@rickyriederer7459
@rickyriederer7459 5 жыл бұрын
Cheek Busting 101 not according to the judges
@Vidshares101
@Vidshares101 5 жыл бұрын
Facts
@AzureKnightmare32
@AzureKnightmare32 2 жыл бұрын
Dammit Rummy, your final comments had me almost to tears with admiration for these two warriors. Well said, sir...well said.
@unbornmetal7652
@unbornmetal7652 5 жыл бұрын
as a Filipino, honestly I have the first fight for pacman, second fight a tie, but 3rd fight for maequez. So overall I think juanma won the rivalry. It was pretty tight though. Epic rivalry
@josemontiel2069
@josemontiel2069 5 жыл бұрын
Pac man a beast though
@javiercarrillo8208
@javiercarrillo8208 5 жыл бұрын
Jose Montiel: so I guess Marquez is chop liver. What a bias comment. Both fighters are true warriors.
@jesustosim8460
@jesustosim8460 5 жыл бұрын
unbornmetal your a Filipino?? then "! your the biggest idiot in this planet " traitor of your own blooline "! crabmentality "! nextime you will do is selling your children " if that is your mindset "
@isaacfox4308
@isaacfox4308 5 жыл бұрын
And marquez reject $100m for rematch paquiao vs marquez 5th
@michaelconiglio3056
@michaelconiglio3056 3 жыл бұрын
Love the channel! Keep up the great work!
@rapnewsworldwide
@rapnewsworldwide 5 жыл бұрын
I want to see your opinion on the legendary career of Prince Naseem (and his devastating loss to Barrera)
@Captain_Rhodes
@Captain_Rhodes 5 жыл бұрын
it was not devastating lol. it was a standard points win
@rapnewsworldwide
@rapnewsworldwide 5 жыл бұрын
Captain Rhodes it was devastating, in my opinion, because it was his first loss which, combined with he fact that he broke his hand ended his career.
@aoclive6710
@aoclive6710 5 жыл бұрын
Franz Liszt arrogance aside he wasn’t going to make a splash as p4p ever . He didn’t have the will or desire to comeback . A true measure of a champion
@wizwiza9482
@wizwiza9482 5 жыл бұрын
How was it devastating it was a points loss your idea of devastating is definitely different to mine a most others I'd wager
@scottmalcolm1974
@scottmalcolm1974 5 жыл бұрын
Legendary!!!???? 😂 he was a joke of a fighter he beat bums until he fought someone good namely Berrara he was a hype job prince Naseem was no legend buddy he was a joke
@mixedbyshay
@mixedbyshay 5 жыл бұрын
Love this channel man. You have a dope sports and narration voice. Keep up the good work
@MIGHTYMaxBOXING
@MIGHTYMaxBOXING 5 жыл бұрын
GGG-Canelo/Mayweather-Castillo/Gatti-Ward would be interesting.
@senyau572
@senyau572 5 жыл бұрын
floyd toyed canelo and marquez
@davidlafleur4269
@davidlafleur4269 5 жыл бұрын
When a new Rummy’s Corner vid comes out, I stop what I’m doing and I take time to give a viewing 👍🏻😬👍🏻 Love the channel and content ! Keep up the great work 👍🏻
@secularpilgrim1372
@secularpilgrim1372 5 жыл бұрын
An outstanding dissection of 4 great fights from 2 great fighters!
@ReservoirPunk
@ReservoirPunk 5 жыл бұрын
*4
@anthonylanzaderas5306
@anthonylanzaderas5306 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video.
@msw8966
@msw8966 5 жыл бұрын
Pacquiao won the first 2 fights and the 3rd fight was a draw. Stylistically Marquez was always a nightmare for Pacquiao and he was a great fighter but Pacquiao is historically a much better fighter. Please keep making videos Rummy! Your channel is great.
@phantompinoy
@phantompinoy 5 жыл бұрын
That’s the same I had. 1st fight: 115-113 Pacquiao 2nd fight: 114-114 Pacquiao 3rd fight: Draw 4th fight: Márquez knockout
@oscarmarroquin4374
@oscarmarroquin4374 5 жыл бұрын
Pacman is more accomplished but Marquez is pacquiao's equal as a fighter and the Superior boxer in terms of skills. He put pacman to sleep so I don't see how one could argue otherwise.
@itsthemuscledad38
@itsthemuscledad38 5 жыл бұрын
@@phantompinoy lol the second fight was a clear win for pac
@itsthemuscledad38
@itsthemuscledad38 5 жыл бұрын
@@oscarmarroquin4374 if marquez had superior skills he wouldnt need steroids to beat pac come on. common sense man. he wouldnt lose to pac of he had more skills
@semi5alpha
@semi5alpha 5 жыл бұрын
1Pac, 2Pac, 3Marq, 4Marq.. Marq won because of the KO of all time..
@JoeBloww762
@JoeBloww762 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff! I’ll never forget the forth fight because it was the most spectacular K.O I had ever witnessed.
@christophermanabat1934
@christophermanabat1934 5 жыл бұрын
All these fights is what made pacquiao a better boxer. Marquez forced him to get better counter puncher and utilize his right hand more. Marquez made him better
@chevyimp5857
@chevyimp5857 5 жыл бұрын
Hope you're proud of this channel.. because it's excellent.. thanks
@Icyking510
@Icyking510 5 жыл бұрын
Wow halfway through the video and lovin it
@tswrench
@tswrench 5 жыл бұрын
Masterful presentation, Rummy--thank you! I was at the the Marquez vs Casamayor fight, and from where I sat, JMM is truly a legend in his own right who lives in no one's shadow.
@CryptoCapitalistX
@CryptoCapitalistX 5 жыл бұрын
It was basically completely even for 3 fights, and then Marquez put a nail in the coffin.
@ucheokoroafor8273
@ucheokoroafor8273 5 жыл бұрын
No it wasn't, Marquez won the first two fights
@donricardo9322
@donricardo9322 5 жыл бұрын
Those 3 knockdowns saved pacquia from a dominant marquez throught the fight.
@nugnorab5257
@nugnorab5257 5 жыл бұрын
Knock down and he is the winner ? Lol. Rematch ! Blood test after the fight honest fight. To see the real goat! Marquez is not even better than Morales. Marquez is boastful , ambitious. He never win to Bradley . He. Almost knock down in the last round.
@samslick9000
@samslick9000 5 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT video, Rummy. I like how you analyzed every round in each fight. i
@jonferace3693
@jonferace3693 4 жыл бұрын
I really think this is the best and most exciting rivalry in history, because it is the best pound for pound of all time vs the best combo counter-puncher in history (Pacquiao vs Marquez), they just complemented each other, just almost nobody calls them that because neither of them is North American, greetings from Mexico Filipinos
@guyorgirl2895
@guyorgirl2895 3 жыл бұрын
Mexico is part of North America
@boxingclassics3833
@boxingclassics3833 3 жыл бұрын
You dont know how to score.. its very clear pacquiao won the first fight with a large margin .. loss to 2nd fight.. by 1 point and won in a close 3rd fight ..in 4rth he was a head in the fight but got too careless and got caught by a steriods counter punch..
@gizguideph
@gizguideph 5 жыл бұрын
I'm Filipino and a HUGE Pacman and I think that he is the greatest of our generation. But, Marquez for this particular topic. The man is so persistent. Kudos to him!
@champ2922
@champ2922 5 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! You never dissapoint!!
@embitofficial80
@embitofficial80 5 жыл бұрын
OK.. Thanks for all heaters.. God bless your life and give you abundance.
@prajeeths2131
@prajeeths2131 5 жыл бұрын
Heaters?
@javiercarrillo8208
@javiercarrillo8208 5 жыл бұрын
wuntyme100 LMAO
@kevinrobertbrown2351
@kevinrobertbrown2351 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic video well done and keep up the excellent work 😊👌
@iananthonypequiras3545
@iananthonypequiras3545 5 жыл бұрын
i dont care who won. the fight is fire against fire literally.
@nichelehubbs5892
@nichelehubbs5892 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching this all morning Great way to start my day 🥊🥊🥊
@ChrisMIXvlog
@ChrisMIXvlog 5 жыл бұрын
Pacman gave marques 3 rematch... Marques cowardly refused to give a rematch... 🦆 🦆 🦆
@richardanthonyperez
@richardanthonyperez 4 жыл бұрын
Exaaacttllyyy Marquez was offered 150 million for the fifth fight, he knows he cheated that’s why!
@tempestvideos9834
@tempestvideos9834 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing rivalry. Thanks, Rumsfeld.
@tjayenterprises5190
@tjayenterprises5190 5 жыл бұрын
5:06 funnily enough.. The same punch marquez dropped pac man with in the 4th fight. 30:49
@peterrodriguez5245
@peterrodriguez5245 5 жыл бұрын
So? Pac got knocked out because he didnt see that punch coming. You also cant judge the effectiveness of a punch by how "it looks".
@getschwifty9531
@getschwifty9531 5 жыл бұрын
@@peterrodriguez5245 The punch you don't see nor expect is the punch that knocks you out. "So?"
@richardanthonyperez
@richardanthonyperez 4 жыл бұрын
The difference is that punch in the fourth fight was more effective thanks to Memos PEDs
@oscarroe2965
@oscarroe2965 5 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, special request: Upload more
@joral31
@joral31 5 жыл бұрын
Marquez put an exclamation point in their final fight by the help of Memo "PED Supplier" Heredia😂😂
@Montoya1991
@Montoya1991 5 жыл бұрын
And the excuses begin, ironic that the same ppl that defend their favorite fighter in pacquiao is the same fighter that has been accused for PEDs for YEARS now 😂
@benjietorres9642
@benjietorres9642 5 жыл бұрын
Show me proof he was on P.E.D.S if not shut your bitch ass up hater
@willh69
@willh69 5 жыл бұрын
Copied from "Many PEDs-iao" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@kevlark3184
@kevlark3184 5 жыл бұрын
PAC fan here. Just in the actual fight, if you can get away with it, it's legal.
@southerncross179
@southerncross179 5 жыл бұрын
And the judges robbed Marquez of the third fight.
@PJR29787
@PJR29787 5 жыл бұрын
Man this was a great video!!! 😎👌🏽
@purvalama6540
@purvalama6540 5 жыл бұрын
LOVE THIS CHANNEL 😊💖💖💖
@Vandalio_Saez
@Vandalio_Saez 4 жыл бұрын
My new favorite channel keep up the goodwork!!!
@BravoStone
@BravoStone 5 жыл бұрын
Marquez forced Bob arum to finally make the Floyd fight.
@whatupboxingfans
@whatupboxingfans 5 жыл бұрын
marquez wasn't with top rank at the time. he was promoted by golden boy at that time. Marquez was promoted by top rank for the 1st fight against pac. second fight against pac he was promoted by golden boy and was back with top rank for the 3rd and 4th fights against pac
@josemezatorrez
@josemezatorrez 4 жыл бұрын
Márquez personally went to the Philippines wearing a Pacquiao is scared of Me shirt and just to talk shit to Pacquiao for a 4th fight and he only got the fight because Cotto the coward did not want a rematch with Pacquiao.
@mattj4362
@mattj4362 3 жыл бұрын
@@whatupboxingfans he’s saying that Marquez KOing Pacquiao forced his hand since his stock for a match with Floyd was at an all time low after that.
@baddrummerscorner5694
@baddrummerscorner5694 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a Filipino and I like your video
@bismofunyans7119
@bismofunyans7119 5 жыл бұрын
took marquez 4 fights to crack pacquiao, marquez also lost to timothy bradley, a guy pacquiao demolished in 3 fights lol
@M4Boxer805
@M4Boxer805 5 жыл бұрын
Immanuel White and yet, stylistically, pacquiao always struggled with Marquez
@markgilrosales6366
@markgilrosales6366 5 жыл бұрын
@@M4Boxer805 pac had him figured in 4th fight.
@jaguarblack4332
@jaguarblack4332 5 жыл бұрын
Very very great video!👊
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