I will share paint depth readings as more makes and models pass through our shop......stay tuned!
@muchachogrande2019 Жыл бұрын
I've actually had this idea for awhile and I feel it would be absolutely brilliant to create a Google sheets document or something similar, that detailers can reference and update/confirm the details of the finishes they're running into overtime. Doesn't even have to be collaborative as long as it's somebody that will take the 10 or so minutes to actually gather the readings and then add them to the list.
@BananerRepublic Жыл бұрын
nissan / infiniti please.... also insight into high end bodyshop paint / clear coat vs oem would be great!
@mrBDeye6 ай бұрын
With so many paint polishing channels on KZbin, they never talk about measuring the clear coat.
@מדינט4 күн бұрын
Indeed, my 2016 BMW has a very hard clear coat, when ever I try to test medium pads and compound, it dose very little to remove light swirls.
@scotbrown7305 Жыл бұрын
Awesome and informative video. Thank you for always trying to help and educate us from your experience.
@jonschmunk7719 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding information Brian. Thank you!!
@z06rcr Жыл бұрын
I was pleasantly surprised to get readings around 6.2 to 6.8 on my Cadillac CT6 where my Infiniti shows 4.2 .. Good thing , because the paint is soft. Would love to measure my Corvette but can’t justify the cost of a PosiTector 200.
@MNpicker Жыл бұрын
Clear coat depth knowledge is a very good thing 🤓
@marklittleton1309 Жыл бұрын
Wow, great video Brian. As an enthusiast who does mine and few friends' cars here and there, it makes me hesitant to even touch the paint with a polisher. I don't think I'll ever do more than a quick enhancement, with MAYBE a few spot corrections. That ice is too thin for somebody like me who doesn't do this all the time...
@basketball798 Жыл бұрын
Hey Brian the thickness of a paint doesn't necessarily mean soft or hard paint. Early 2000s Mercedes have a thickness of 3.5-4mills but the paint is extremely hard (solvent base). The newer paints on most cars now are waterbase and even if they are 8mills thick they won't be as hard as 4mill thick solvent base paint. Great video as always.
@bigd9848 Жыл бұрын
Excellent as always Brian 👍🏻
@millerdetailing4176 Жыл бұрын
Great video and topic to review and cover.
@kimnewling5728 Жыл бұрын
Very very helpful. Awesome! Thank you Brian.
@themachine8009 Жыл бұрын
Wow. A $50k paint reader. Could’ve never imagined
@norcalspitshine6406 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the education.
@detailerslife8127 Жыл бұрын
Had a 2008 Toyota Corolla recently, one correction in its life, Clear Coat (Black,Very Soft) very good condition 300,000 Klms, had an average reading of 5.6 mils all round. New Mazda's/Honda's around 2.5-3.1 mils.
@riceburner4747 Жыл бұрын
Thank u. Most detailing shops just show exotics. I figured Toyota was soft, had no idea its thickness.
@detailerslife8127 Жыл бұрын
@@riceburner4747 That's why I like what Brian at Apex Detail does, he's not just showing the Very Expensive Exotics. He's such a down to earth guy without all the fluff and B.S
@nickgeorgiakakis7249 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2017 Corolla, clear coat is still very soft. Note to self , be very careful if wet sanding out any scratches, clear coat is very thin.
@Spirited282 Жыл бұрын
I have no access to a gauge but i heard the newer toyota's the paint is very thin, Would have loved to know that of my 2021 Rav 4
@richsmith3120 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a paint depth meter will become mandatory for all paint correction!
@Xaviers300ZX Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this info!! Great overview Brian
@javigarcia3823 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Brian. Like always very helpful video.
@danmorrissette4814 Жыл бұрын
some Nissan and Mazda have less then 3.5 the you get a Pearl metalic Ford shoots up to 9... The Depth Gauge was my best investment thanks to Brian... Also had Porsche with repairs at different panels... original front fenders were 3.1 repainted doors at 6.5 other panels different reading, real nightmare loll± owner wasnt told of repairs.. GET THE Gauge !!!!
@melindaroy3679 Жыл бұрын
Very informative video. Have any numbers on 2023 Kias? Sportages and Tellurides? Thanks Brian!
@RJLM330 Жыл бұрын
So I have a large motor hom that had clear bra put on in 2000. It has turned Black cracked. It is impossible to remove. Tried adhesive remover heat gun 3M rubber wheel steam cleaner. NOTHING TAKES IT OFF What do you recommend. Absolutely enjoy your info on all aspects of your explanation THANKS MUCH
@neilwalker5041 Жыл бұрын
I’m like the lady in the Wendy’s commercials yelling Where’s the Beef?
@747rotate Жыл бұрын
Hey Brian since we're on the subject of test equipment I just purchased a Landtek gm-6 gloss meter and for the life of me I'm not quite understanding the instructions to calibrate it. When the cal light comes on the screen and I push measure it says 96.4 like what is stated on the calibration stand. When I place the meter on the stand the readings are all over the place. Instructions said it should read 96.4 which it isn't. I'm about at my wits end trying to calibrate it and it's driving me crazy. Is there a simplified method I can try?
@AntEloftheHouseofEl Жыл бұрын
Love the video Brian. I have a 2020, German made VW and it has the hardest clear I've ever known in my life! Even a Megs microfibre cutting pad is producing about 1/4 I'd normally get on any other paint! It's like Rocky Balboa, in an Iron-man suit, driving a tank! 3 years old now, 30,000 miles and no scratches whatsoever - just some swirling. I'd love to know if the VAG group have started using something new, or if the technicians just gave it multiple coats for a laugh! 🤣
@ronayotte3571 Жыл бұрын
I detail an Audi Q5 that has paint as hard as granite... and it is black.
@AntEloftheHouseofEl Жыл бұрын
@@ronayotte3571 deep black pearl by any chance?
@apexdetail85 Жыл бұрын
They missed the memo of switching over to waterbourn clear coat .....good for them.
@AntEloftheHouseofEl Жыл бұрын
@@apexdetail85 whatever they are using, I'm pretty sure Captain America will want it on his bloody shield too! 🤣
@brianjohnston7344 Жыл бұрын
what model VW?
@MichaelBrianInc Жыл бұрын
Can you also do this on headlights to check clear coat depths?
@ronayotte3571 Жыл бұрын
I often get asked what tool is my most important one in detailing... and that is my NexDiag NexPTG paint depth gauge. Don't polish a car without it!
@davestewart9146 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately when you buy a used car there’s no way to tell what the paint thickness was when it was new especially if it’s been corrected, great video Brian 👍😁
@Enthusiast_detailing Жыл бұрын
This is amazing Information!
@waynewoodrick5055 Жыл бұрын
When there are variable numbers on the readings, is the variable usually the clear coat ? Example: one reading 3.8 on the hood and 4.8 on the door. Does that mean the door has more clear?
@TrealTalk187 Жыл бұрын
Yes the door got sprayed more clear that day in the factory by the mechanical arm robot painters
@apexdetail85 Жыл бұрын
Not necessarily... but I always err on the side of caution and assume there is more of the primer or color coat.
@kennethschei6957 Жыл бұрын
This is why fillers in product is necessary 😊👍
@davidgeroge9330 Жыл бұрын
Great info , where do all the Asian cars read ? Hyundai, Toyota, Nissan etc...
@apexdetail85 Жыл бұрын
Thin and soft....unfortunately.
@whitewalker9622 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@mikeyp2447 Жыл бұрын
Very informative!!
@arabinow Жыл бұрын
Hi Brian.. would you recommend Sonax Perfect finish with a Yellow Rupes pad for a 1 step solution on a Tesla model y?
@dtna Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thnx!
@oursulaert Жыл бұрын
Thank you what about landrovers the iconic old style shape with no clear coat
@apexdetail85 Жыл бұрын
plenty of single stage to work with.
@riceburner4747 Жыл бұрын
Toyotas? Soft? More involved than ppl think. Thank u! 👍
@Secret_Sun33 Жыл бұрын
So these are readings for virgin unpolished paint? From what year onward would you say they cheaped out on clear?
@ac7384 Жыл бұрын
What about Toyota and there thickeness and hardness ?
@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow4 ай бұрын
How do you know how much clearcoat you have though?
@93rt Жыл бұрын
I've heard Koenigseggs put up to .030" of paint on. Any regular car company put 10 or more on their cars?
@larrysing Жыл бұрын
I’m a bit confused here. It seems as if you’re saying that anything under five mils can’t or shouldn’t be compounded? Is that just a general rule for safety purposes or do you consider that a hard and fast rule?
@apexdetail85 Жыл бұрын
Just in general.
@shoemaker924 Жыл бұрын
how to these measurements compare to older gen cars? for example, early 2000s, 90s, 80s? was clear thicker back then? i assume it's gotten thinner due to tech and cost savings.
@apexdetail85 Жыл бұрын
Thicker as you go back through the years.
@lapulla32 Жыл бұрын
Why is the door jam used as a reference point? I saw a couple of videos of detailers doing that.
@waynewoodrick5055 Жыл бұрын
Usually no clear on the jams
@Aaron-tv6fs10 ай бұрын
Incorrect. Door jambs are clear coated. Don’t believe me? Try wiping paint reducer in the jambs. It would remove base colour coat, but not clear. Oh you still have paint there? Yeah cause it’s clear coated They use a minimum amount in the door jambs because clear coat protects against UV, and your door jambs aren’t exposed to sun 99% as much as the rest of the exterior
@marcuslima2535 Жыл бұрын
hey mate, i bought one of those and tried on the paint of my car and my friends car, on my car was around 7 to 8 mils in most areas and its an oold car, and on my friends car there was some areas with 11 mils, is that right? not look repainted cars
@marioskosmidhs9454 Жыл бұрын
Great video again sir. Can i ask? How we know that the clear coat is thinner? And not just thinner primer and thinner based color? ( OEM manufacturers in Europe report's lately that due to changes on metals and materials witch they can adhire easier the layers , now they need less primer and less color base on their paint systems)
@apexdetail85 Жыл бұрын
Since we mostly do not have 50K tools to make sure....I personally err on the side of safety and always assume there is less clear.
@13pcbs Жыл бұрын
Q - how come you always use Mils , surely Microns would show a slight reduction not picked up my Mils?
@apexdetail85 Жыл бұрын
The more expensive tools can accurately measure microns.
@kosarmuhammad9209 Жыл бұрын
Does it only measure the thickness of the clear coat? Or the total amount of substances on the plate such as paint, etc., How much less is the number not suitable for polishing? thank you❤
@petreticu600813 күн бұрын
1/3 of the measurement is clearcoat. There are 4 layers: bare metal, primer, base coat and clear coat. Bare metal is not really a layer, i just put it there for a better undestanding of the measurment. In my humble opinion, a car can get one paint correction in its lifetime (maybe not even that on some cars), one steps or enhancements are a better choice when polishing. Also, if you polish, you must add a protection after-wax every 3-4 months, sealant every 6-8 months, ceramic coatings for 2+ years or ppf. If you only do light polishing with a very soft foam and fisnishing paste, then you dont have to worry about clear coat thickness, because that doesnt really remove much clearcoat, almost none. Sorry i went a bit overboard with my asnswer.
@GeneG-wk2mz Жыл бұрын
Who sales the pads ?
@apexdetail85 Жыл бұрын
Which pads?
@GeneG-wk2mz Жыл бұрын
The polish beast pads blue ?
@davescott9062 Жыл бұрын
Hey Brian, I didn't catch the name of your Guage, I clicked the links in the description of the video, one was an Amazon link, didn't see your purple one there, and the other link was $2500 😬 Help!
@apexdetail85 Жыл бұрын
It is a Nicety....www.ebay.com/itm/111245666226?hash=item19e6c227b2:g:JVMAAOSwAaJZ5dB3&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA8N3bcYktEJHSBuDFirJ%2FT1%2BMY02bAQGLJaxH8zNRS6BPBvqASnbIdVy%2BPVKEeQmESfldhl5vzqBIbZJSFnRxOFb3J5equAu6xegex9vZtF3eXwTZXqaSEAEpcV6NAu7lhUzKvckztCw6qJ1vsEj%2FwYr%2Fj%2Fju%2FlrPRzeS2quSmPIZqi1874V7THZ2Oz%2B0M7CuOCvEKO3ES5ljqQnc%2FHt0lQHUfYC1F2S7ZJFhKNPEffaTr8ZgS9OJFCGYI0rjTgccOSkAMzWTX2EJUVUMAtOvsoLGN1VZ%2B1VVNFbLsj2V3CpXZCgh2Pg2vrWAdBPseULWKg%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABFBMurLGz-Zh
@davescott9062 Жыл бұрын
@@apexdetail85 many thanks
@tundrawhisperer4821 Жыл бұрын
After you’ve done a one step on a thin clear coat and then it comes time to needing another correction, do you just go get a new clear coat applied? Thx
@apexdetail85 Жыл бұрын
I do everything I possibly can to avoid needing correction again.
@awpdevil Жыл бұрын
I'll add an addendum to Chevy, on the newer Camaros including ZL1's, their paint is so soft if you look at it funny it will scratch.
@apexdetail85 Жыл бұрын
There are always exceptions.
@thefinder8087 Жыл бұрын
Kind of shocked that Chrysler has better clear coat than BWM and Jag, I mean I am glad to hear it because I drive a RAM but it is very surprising.
@paulrogers3511 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Mercedes newer model??
@apexdetail85 Жыл бұрын
4.0 to 5.0
@manrex5238 Жыл бұрын
Hey bother thanks for your videos as instructional as always now I’m an aficionado trying to get better as I can and I would love to know which paint thickness measure device is good and affordable not in the top(expensive) but definitely not on the cheap side,a funny story I asked the same question to esoteric detail and his answer: I do not recommend neither use cheap staff in our shop…. bloody bastard I did not asked for the cheapest but neither for a 1,000 dollars one I’m not a bloody millionaire like you 😂😂😂😂
@apexdetail85 Жыл бұрын
The Nicety shown in this video works just fine.
@Chris-wb7ni Жыл бұрын
That’s my next purchase is a depth meter
@mikeanddebboyers6822 Жыл бұрын
Ballpark on a C5 Corvette?
@waynewoodrick5055 Жыл бұрын
My paint Guage won't read fiberglass 😢 maybe Brian's does. Corvettes usually have hard clear.
@apexdetail85 Жыл бұрын
5.5 to 6.5
@luketuttle1096 Жыл бұрын
Seems like all paints going thin and soft! 2 steps corrections be thing of the past before too long. Side note GMC 1500 and Silverado 1500 have same paint
@keatonblaze53 Жыл бұрын
Did you just say gm or black gm paint is hard ?
@richardseem7948 Жыл бұрын
Awesome idea for video.scary how clear coat Fluctuates on different panels of vehicles
@wendellthompson6470 Жыл бұрын
What the name of the Gage your using BRAIN
@The_Cyberz Жыл бұрын
Watch the video, WENDELL.
@riceburner4747 Жыл бұрын
And it's spelled gUage.
@wendellthompson6470 Жыл бұрын
@@riceburner4747 next time spell the Guage
@davescott9062 Жыл бұрын
@@The_Cyberz 🤣 classic Misspelled Brian as well.
@riceburner4747 Жыл бұрын
@@wendellthompson6470 okie dokie Mr Wendell. 😂🤣😁
@richardseem7948 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video and content good friend
@LucasSi919 Жыл бұрын
When doing a two step paint correction your typically removing 0.3. Of your reading 4.0 on a new car, your end result will be 3.7. 1/3 of 4.0 is 1.3 mil of clear coat (roughly).. removing 0.3 from a 1.3 mil clear coat is plenty room go play with. I necessarily wouldn't say "one step" only. Please care to explain. Your presentation seems a bit "worry some"
@mitchelllong5848 Жыл бұрын
Wow suck little clear on the newer cars today, sucks, protect it while you can
@andrewbailey4177 Жыл бұрын
Audi thin and hard I guess
@1stfrompuertorico568 Жыл бұрын
First!!!
@The_Cyberz Жыл бұрын
When you say they have enough clear for a good one-step, do you mean for the life of the clear? Like you can only correct it one time before it would need new clear applied?
@paul6749 Жыл бұрын
Agree - this is confusing. If you have a new car, and it’s only safe to polish once in its lifetime, why bother investing in all the kit required?
@Scoot8428 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why people have problem with Tesla's paint I had no problem when I buffed it I don't feel that it's too thin words it's extremely soft or anything compared to any other thing out there I think just people don't like Tesla and then they just put the hate on the whole entire vehicle I see nothing wrong with their pants just as good as any other manufacturer out there