Painting the Holbein Colour Chart

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[@tmp0922]

The Viridian Hue is pthalo green and is non granulating, but you can make a viridian hue that is closer to a true granulating viridian by mixing ultramarine which is granulating (3 to one, 3 parts viridian hue with one part ultramarine blue) this mix is much closer to a true viridian. Holbein’s true Viridian is quite nice. Multi pigment mixes make absolutely no difference at all, there are far to many people who make an issue about something that is a non-issue, and has never been an issue. I have been a professional artist for more than 30 years (both traditional and illustration), you just need to learn to mix your colors and know what the results will be, color charts are great for beginners but color studies are much more useful all around.

[@user-xo4jd4ot8s]

Yeah you're right about the single pigment issue. I understand someone who's obsessed with the single pigment idea. It's a ideal romance someone is cling to. But never judge the performance of a color by just looking at the pigment tags. Say no-no to a color by just swatching it and pointing out its multiple pigmented formulation is not so convincing and properly done for me.

[@kookatsoonjan]

Thank you Teoh...so nice you are testing these...much appreciated! Janis

[@DavidMonoArt]

Love the overall view of theses charts. Thanks for sharing. 👍👍👍 👍👍 👍

[@nicolle2126]

I think Holbein paint doesn't granulate as much because they're made with illustrators in mind who like flat washes

[@jdub3853]

Hi Nicolle. Holbein Ultramarine Deep PB29 and Cerulean Blue PB35 are extremely granulating. Many are very flat, though.

[@yellowcrescent]

Agreed. One of the reasons I like Holbein so much is that the colors are vibrant and I am not a big fan of granulating colors. Looking at my chart of 65 Holbein colors-- Ultramarine Deep, Cadmium Red, Cadmium Red Purple, Scarlet Lake, Quin Opera, and Cerulean Blue are the only ones that look noticeably granulating. Oh, and Gold and Silver, but those are more like suspensions than actual color pigments. lol

[@nicolle2126]

@@jdub3853 thanks for the info JDub!

[@nicolle2126]

@@yellowcrescent Thanks for the info Jacob, I'll keep that in mind when I look for those colors. Also I'm pretty jealous of your holbein collection haha!

[@mightyboy527]

Thx Teoh for taking the time to do this for us-now I don't have to do it myself-I just take pic and blow it up. I will laminate it fold it and put in my travel kit :)

[@jdub3853]

Yay!!! Thank you Teoh! I love Holbein and they are my favorite paint. My split primaries are all single pigment colors, PY154, PY110, PR254, PV19, PB15:3 and PB29. They are so easy to use and the colors really pop off the page. I know they are not everyone's favorite, but I really connected on a personal level with the colors. I'm willing to bet you know what I'm talking about :) Once again, thanks for the review!

[@swivelkeyring3512]

I know this is quite an old comment but do you mind listing your primaries for holbein (in their color names) thank you

[@arturm7]

Justo compré unos Holbein 18 la semana pasada, que me llegan entre hoy y mañana, y casualmente me encuentro con tremendo vídeo. Gracias por compartir

[@sky_izm]

I bought 10 individual tubes of Holbein paints. Each tube costs about 3 dollars here in the Ph. I love this paints. They are vibrant. i like how they include some pastel colors in their color selection.

[@ndeyedraws]

I just recently upgraded my Koi watercolors to Holbein. I love them haha, although I have to agree that their Vermillion is not as "red" as I expected.. but overall, I enjoy painting using Holbein WC. And I'd say, for a professional grade watercolor, their prices aren't that crazy high, so that's a plus 👍

[@ellahdimaano1729]

I've been wanting to buy this! Thank you, Teoh!

[@higherground711]

That's a lot of information to go on in this video. Very helpful. 👍 😊 Thanks Teoh.

[@Cheripie506]

I love watching you. These are lovely paints. I have the 36 pan set and enjoy them very much.

[@teohyc]

Thank you :-)

[@nicolle2126]

i've been waiting for this! thanks for doing this video teoh

[@jerichowmangubat]

I just bought this holbein set of 12 last week and I haven't made a color chart yet, thanks for this :)

[@hangphan9774]

It is nice I have a set of holbein and i love it

[@unikoniiko]

Seems like it would be so much easier/ faster/more accurate to fill in the boxes with a flat brush. Really loved the video; such beautiful colors! I adore your color charts!

[@teohyc]

You're right 😂

[@arturm7]

Uniko, ook your advice in the new video :)

[@unikoniiko]

Artur M Yesss!!! That is awesome! 😂❤️

[@elainemagliacane]

I have several Holbein colors in my palette, non of them included in this set except Prussian Blue, which is a favorite of mine, since most of my painting is done in sketchbooks so light fastness isn't a concern for me. The other colors I use made by Holbein are Verditer Blue (I use instead of Cerulean blue), Scarlet Lake (nice rich orange leaning red), and Cadmium Yellow (one of the few true Cadmium colors available these days).

[@OneTrueWord1988]

Hi Teoh! Hope you and your family are doing well! I am considering buying a few Holbein colors, and I wanted to see what you thought of them. Thank you for a very informative and helpful video. Have a good day! Donna

[@christianmccann7884]

I love the smooth non granulating Holbein paint .. But most tubes seem to be 3pigmemt colours .. Kind of Annoying! Nice review btw!

[@nabi767]

Yeah, I bought 18 color set and disappointed with too many 3 pigment colors, even though they are pretty. Later I bought 1 pigment colors and I like them. PB60, PY110, PR122 and cobalt colors. It seems their 3 pigment color ranges are in line with designer's gouache in Winsor & Newton for illustrators.

[@angelarafael9875]

Thank you for doing a test on holbein wc.it's one of my favorite brands,anf i currently have 80 colors 🤣🤣 and i am making a colorchart for them,i used a sketchbook for it because i cant find wc paper big enough to fit all the colors.thanks for featuring this brand. 😊😊😊

[@teohyc]

I don't think it's feasible to create a chart with 80 colours. lol

[@artblob]

Jeeeez! See you in a month or two when you've painted your 6400 colors 😥

[@angelarafael9875]

I had to separate different color family combinations per page on the sketch book 😆😆😆 i think it will take more than 2 mos 😂😂

[@tiamatandall]

Please swatch the New White Nights 12 tube set. I'm looking into buying it to put on my Portable Painter for Urban Sketching. Thank you in advance!

[@ThingOfSome]

It is "hole-bine" rhymes with "line", for "Holbein"; it is a German surname. Also, interesting that their Chinese white is actually titanium white.

[@karenkessin4135]

And they also have a titanium white which is the more transparent white in their line.

[@user-bk8ll6ro2k]

Teoh, I have the same Holbein set, I am about to squeeze the tubes in a palette to dry - my own DIY pans - will I still have to worry about the binder then? Also, do you have any videos on how to transfer watercolors from tubes to pans? Thank you!

[@teohyc]

How I fill watercolor pans (DIY) kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGi2ZGh9hcZ1nNk

[@user-xo4jd4ot8s]

HOLBEIN is very affordable in Asia. My complaint is some tubes are somewhat much less pigmented than brands like DS. In the pan it shrinks a lot. But since it's also cheaper than DS I feel it acceptable. The other thing is that the lightfast rating could be confusing.They accurately tag Prussian blue as moderately lightfast yet tag PR83 excellent. And the color selections of the sets they offer are somewhat odd to me. HOLBEIN is very good for realistic paintings, though the tinting strength is not so striking like other artist brands, it layers perfectly. Their cadmium colors are excellent both in performance and price as long as you buy it in Asia. Another good thing is that they offer 60ml tubes with very reliable pigment. Very economically friendly for those who run studios or workshops.

[@teohyc]

Holbein and ShinHan are very affordable.

[@lynnholbein3795]

Delighted to see a review of the Holbein line. FYI: the company is pronounced Hol-bine.

[@teohyc]

Thanks :-)

[@3ngan498]

I think it better to use white watercolor for mixing pastel gouache look. Also i prefer a cheap white poster color for highlight.

[@elpasomark3069]

Greetings Teoh. I have a few questions for you. First, what brand of paper are you using for your color charts? What size are your squares? And what size paper do you use for the larger color charts (12 or more colors)? Do you cut the larger charts from a single sheet of paper? I really enjoy your reviews and videos. Thank you.

[@teohyc]

That's a 10 x 14 Arches watercolour paper. The grid is 12 x 12 which means it's for 11 colours. Each square is 2cm. You can check out this video on how I make such watercolour charts kzbin.info/www/bejne/epa1kmx_i75pabc

[@lizziedae91]

Hey Teoh would you please consider doing a video on interference colors? Im confused as to if my Finetec/Coliro colors are the same as Daniel Smith ones.

[@lizziedae91]

And black watercolor paper to go with it?

[@KimberlyCrick]

In the meantime, if it helps, I have both and the Coliro/Finetec are MUCH shinier. Actually there are very few competitors to Coliro's Arabic Gold in the most reflective of mica shimmers. Daniel Smith's do not rewet the same way either, so it's a bit hard to get solid shimmer once you put from tube to pan. Kremer and Van Gogh both make metallics closer to Coliro.

[@chrom0xide123]

I think the pigments in daniel smith are smaller. Talens van Gogh has also a new box for interference and metallics, and there is also a koi watercolor metallics box.

[@lizziedae91]

Thanks for the replies, very helpful. I have the arabic gold & it is fantastic. Just got the unicorn shade & its nice but more subtle than I expected

[@YnaDv21]

Hi Teoh! I'm planning on buying some tube paints to start moving on from my set of student grade Sakura paints. Honest opinion, should I get Shinhan paints or would I be better off with a known brand like Holbein? Hoping for a response ^U^

[@teohyc]

They are actually quite comparable in quality. I've not tested Shinhan in detail but for Holbein most colours are not granulating

[@jonmahashintina]

a frame from somewhere else in the video keeps flashing up for me.

[@teohyc]

Huh? In my video, or in KZbin?

[@jonmahashintina]

​@@teohyc I havent noticed any other videos doing it, but both chrome and firefox are doing it to your video. I can reproduce it at the same time for each flicker too, example when you talk about your orange from 12:58 - 12:59

[@teohyc]

Alright, there's a problem with my video. I accidentally overlayed another video on top of the main video 😂🤣

[@Rayshader]

Is it normal for holbein to turn out chalky when they dry up?

[@teohyc]

They usually are not chalky

[@thewaltzingkat6765]

Hi I'm about to buy some Holbein tubes but found difficulty in the package design. As I searched for Holbein watercolor tube, the result came in two different types of tube. One is the same white tube with the color label stripe on the top as yours and the other is a metal one with the color label stripe parallel with the tube. Do you have any idea about that because I'm sooo confused ToT

[@teohyc]

Not sure about Holbein but I’ve seen many different packaging from them

[@TobermoryCat]

In the context of watercolour painting, the word "permanent" has a long tradition. Unlike in normal usage, the word normally means cheap pigments which are likely to fade. On the up side, you only have 5ml of the stuff so thats not going to last long anyway. 5ml! Thats a stupid small quantity. Thankfully there are better options out there. Nice vid though, thanks.

[@teohyc]

5ml is for people to sample the colours. The alternative is buying 15ml of a colour to discover you don't like it.

[@nauci]

I got some Holbein gouache and I haaaaaaate it. It feels like trying to paint with solid chalk. So rough on my brushes. So chalky. Blech.

[@soseki2807]

did you use gouache often before? and did you let it dry or did you use it from the tube? Personally I think gouache in general should only be used from a tube to get the best experience. If you want to dry them in pans, you're better off just getting watercolors with black and white gouache or even further less transparent watercolors.

[@nauci]

@@soseki2807 from the tube, with my main color piles on some wet paper towel, and with a spray bottle for rewetting. Every time I've tried the Holbein gouache I feel like I'm fighting a war of attrition against the medium itself. Maybe I'm just too used to the texture of oil and acrylic paints

[@soseki2807]

@@nauci I watched Mind of Watercolor and he rated them pretty highly, but I do know alot of their colors have alot of pigment mixes. Also their watercolors are marketed as vegan because of the lack of ox gall, (they believe it should be our choice to use it or not) and I have to wonder if that's also a contributing factor for the gouache being different.

[@nauci]

@@soseki2807 maybe it's just not the medium for me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@soseki2807]

@@nauci lol maybe. If anything I'd say look up M Graham gouache. The brand is known to be super moist so it might not be as chalky as you say Holbein gouache is.

[@MiadeFleur]

Now prices are different much higher. EX: 12 colors are $50

[@teohyc]

Search eBay too

[@MiadeFleur]

I search, can be I am in Canada and here everything is more expensive. I don't have many choices in stores. I have to order.

[@MiadeFleur]

Thank you! I forget tell that cost me even more in C$.

[@TrangNguyen-cs6wv]

Could you make a video about M. Graham basic set (or any set would be nice too)? I read your text review and the swatch you could mix out of 5 colors are amazing. I'm curious how would you use the colors while painting. Thanks!

[@xcforlife77]

I second this request! I would love to hear your thoughts on some honey based paints like M. Graham or Sennelier, though I guess you have reviewed Mission Gold which also use honey

[@maryellenthompson8261]

If the paints are as nice as their colored pencils, which they seem to be, then $25 US dollars is a bargain.