Pakistani Politics & Military Establishment | WTI Talks Ep 74 | Syed Muzammil & Rana Abdullah Hammad

Join us for an insightful episode of "The WTI Talks" as we dive deep into the intricate relationship between Pakistani politics and the military establishment. Our host, Rana Abdullah Hammad, engages in a thought-provoking conversation with renowned political analyst Syed Muzammil Shah. Together, they explore the historical context, current dynamics, and future implications of this critical interplay. Tune in to Episode 74 for expert analysis and in-depth discussion, brought to you by the World Times Institute.
Topics Covered:
‣ Historical overview of Pakistani politics and military involvement
‣ Current political landscape and military influence
‣ Key figures and events shaping the relationship
‣ Future prospects and potential reforms
‣ Expert opinions and analysis
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Keywords:
Pakistani politics, military establishment, Syed Muzammil Shah, Rana Abdullah Hammad, WTI Talks, World Times Institute, political analysis, military influence in Pakistan, political discussion, current affairs Pakistan, Episode 74, political analyst Pakistan

[@PariJan-pw8bs]

This man is the true face of real journalism...

[@leisureclub_]

lol... He is just another puppet of Political parties.. Specially PPP...

[@chetanhiremath1987]

Good pod cast... 👏👏

[@UchihaClan-cu9ww]

Hahaha

[@Ali-kn3dx]

😂😂😂

[@ahmedrajwana4583]

Too early to say every journalist has his own personal agenda.

[@pradeepsharma5072]

Indian mainstream media-🤡 Pakistani mainstream media-🤡 Syed Muzammil alone-🗿

[@first6969]

1) Every Country Has An Army, But In Pakistan, Army Has A Country 2) Pakistan Army Has Never Lost An Election And Never Won A War 3) Pak Army Generals Are The Most Prolific Entrepreneurs In The World. If It Is In Olympics, They Would Win Gold Medal.

[@rameenqureshi7643]

Vigo on the way 😂 Well said btw

[@PfefferNusse-vr4yo]

@@rameenqureshi7643

[@SSwathi-ge5wj]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@hayatji9203]

Machine gun of knowledge

[@Ray-of-Hope720]

Facts! Facts!! FACTS!!!

[@gulzartajik64]

Muzamil sab is a symbol of loyalty

[@SN23031978]

Syed Muzammil never fails to impress with his knowledge, eloquence and courage. He is a very rare kind.

[@Ray-of-Hope720]

Thank you for inviting our beloved Syed Muzammil Shah ❤

[@populartalkshak]

Now that's a good person to do podcast with. Thank you JWT

[@leisureclub_]

He is a clown nothing else...

[@populartalkshak]

@@leisureclub_ You are.

[@g-randhawa8581]

@@leisureclub_ bcoz majority of Pakistan community is a religious fanatic circus so you need a clown like muzzamil to show them the truth.

[@Mike_Pompeo]

*I can listen to this man Syed Muzammil for hours.. Love from India❤.. I came across his personal YT channel when he had only 37K subscribers..*

[@nabilacooking4782]

bhai yae jhoota h... yae choron k sth hai..

[@ektapurichopra8405]

Me too and I do, #syedmuzammilshah , love listening to your political commentary...

[@ShivamYadav-in2jg]

sahi kaha bhai !!

[@baliharguru5478]

Me too

[@moizkhan6766]

Why you indians are everywhere 😶‍🌫️

[@pangrula]

How this guy has rational thoughts in such a country where everyone is radical islamist

[@shoutforit]

Not everyone is radical islamist. It's a very sweeping statement

[@syedbadshah12345]

Stop listening to Godi media and you'll realise how stupid your statement sounds

[@pangrula]

@@syedbadshah12345 truth hurts

[@SSwathi-ge5wj]

​@@shoutforitEveryone in your country is a radical Islami*t. And so we are implementing CAA-NRC in our country Bharat.

[@hasnain4274]

Same as In All The hindu Extremists Only Dhurav Rathi is Rational Hindu.

[@zammerudjaffery3263]

As Punjabi sir Ganga Ram is our Hero not Ghories Ghaznavid

[@user-sx4mq6zn9o]

Muzammeil always talks straight.

[@FajarShazam]

Interesting episode. I always admire Syed Muzammil for his intellectual thinking.

[@Sagheer3435]

I think it is critical thinking

[@nsdhillon9937]

Syed Muzammil sahib tuhanu dili salam 🙏 from Punjab India 🇮🇳

[@talha5171]

since I am your consistent listener and I am from Chitral, I really appreciate your effort towards the serious issues that nobody talks about. Muzammil Bhae Chitral is famous for its ethnic diversity and unique culture, we have lost many Muslim Chitralies defending the Kalash community from the Taliban and we will do it again. The invaders come from outside and they don't only target the Kalash community, but also other Chitralies. I have seen your video on Chitral and I couldn't find one single piece of evidence of the forced conversion of Kalash by any other Chitrali. please don't compare it with the situation in Sindh. I am really proud of my people that we have maintained peace to some extent as compared to other parts of Pakistan.

[@SHIVAMYadav-pw5uz]

❤❤❤

[@AnuragSinha7]

Chitral is was and will always be an indivisible and inalienable part of India. Have patience; we Indians will come back to retake our land and our people when time and situation allows us. 🙂

[@SHIVAMYadav-pw5uz]

@@AnuragSinha7 ghnta lega india 😆

[@talha5171]

@@AnuragSinha7 love u bro we are your people, and we belong to you, these borders can never separate our bond

[@user-sp8re3pr8z]

you are the only person , you cover all aspects of politics,criticism based on arguments, librel thoughts and dirty politics. love you sir

[@ytsheryoneplus7tpro470]

Imagine this guy saying PML-N and PPP is better than PTI 😂 lmao

[@waseemahmed4081]

You have never got these much views on any podcast in a single day. This is just because of the real man who has been invited.

[@armughanshafique9538]

Is ke mostly viewers Indian hein. Wesy yeh banda imranophobia ka bht serious patient hy.

[@Me-The-Kakar]

@@armughanshafique9538 aap ka taluq insaani qaum se nahi lagta hai bhai jaan 🙃 aap mujhe Qaum e Youth ke fard lagte hain.? kya mai ghalat hun

[@armughanshafique9538]

@@Me-The-Kakar is tarha to majority of Pakistanis jinho ne PTI ko vote diya wo bhi qaum e youth se hi hein. Aur wesy bhi qaum e youth Muzamil jese pseudo liberal hypocrites se 100 times achy hein.

[@Me-The-Kakar]

@@armughanshafique9538 😂Psuedo liberal kuch bhi, is tarah to mai Imran Khan pe bhi Taliban Khan ka tag laga dun. Aur haan hai Qaum e youth se, isi liye super power hain.....

[@armughanshafique9538]

@@Me-The-Kakar To yeh log lgate hein na tag Taliban Khan ka tab hi to in ko mein kehta pseudo liberal. Har baat ka blame Imran Khan py daal dety.

[@navneetmohit1]

Treasure this person Pakistan, you may not get another one in a long time to come. Give him the platform and support he needs and you will see betterment sooner than what your elite can ever bring. Respect from India❤

[@learningismypassion]

He is right my daughters read lots of books and they have so many information and they are very clear in their thoughts

[@duhduh666]

16:55 it takes guts to live and work as a journalist commentator in Pakistan like Mr. Shah than a Dhruv Rathee who resides in Germany and has a team of 8 individuals in India for research production etc

[@kumarsidhant1908]

Absolutely true

[@Komal_US]

I used to think that Syed Muzamil is a progressive, intellectual person who is not afraid to call out the wrong. But I was wrong. He also cannot say a word against establishment or army. Everybody is brave to condemn only politicians but he will justify everything done by the army. So called intellectuals also dont have guts to tell the truth in Pakistan.

[@osamaali5969]

@@Komal_US He is intellectually insensible and is leading his audience towards a rational decay by promoting agnosticism, who just love asking questions but lack pragmatism... Critical Thinking ke naam pe jo chooran becha ja raha hai, we must beware of it.

[@00naeem]

Bro he always talk against Establishment too

[@uzmaasad759]

Gee bilkul pseudo intellectual....he's actually a tout

[@ansariaz1325]

ote hoye itni jalan … he talks about all ills… gjor say suna karo

[@shahidanusrat6086]

​@@uzmaasad759😂😂😂😂 burnol

[@user-vh2di6tl5t]

He is Javed Ahmad Ghamdi of Pakistani Politics...so true and daring to speak truth.

[@marshinrace63]

Real journalist with out any bysed

[@pashavlogs194]

As a pashtun I said all is going very wrong and inshallah we will right this state and grome your all Pakistani people ❤

[@radhakrishnakaranth1661]

I am an Indian.I watch him as I learn a lot not what he says about Pakistan politics bur his analysis on why it is happening.He is like a book on many issues.I don’t get any pleasure because he criticises Pakistan.That is Pakistanis to worry about.

[@rockykhan6338]

lindus watch anyone criticising pakistan lol

[@ghoul_0077]

@@rockykhan6338 do tell learned one whats their to praise

[@duhduh666]

I worry for the safety and welfare of Mr. Muzammil. His bone dry adherence to facts and very measured analysis may be depressing and dispiriting but it’s so needed. The USA could use a voice like this.

[@ahsanzakir1838]

WTI have you lost yourself? who decided to bring such a biased pseudo-intellectual on this platform. You guys have lost your credibility.

[@ShreeyankSinghvi]

Yes your country is best

[@vaunsag]

Smell the coffee and wake up

[@1BRAH55M]

Pti supporter talking about intellect

[@ahsanzakir1838]

@@1BRAH55M I don't support party but ideology. However, you better name the party that pakistanis should support

[@1BRAH55M]

@@ahsanzakir1838 don't support any of them or have better demands for the party you support there are some smaller parties who work for the welfare of the people but no one cares about them

[@TheBatman-o2i]

Muzammil is on fire 🔥

[@umerkhan8875]

The man speaks all out of his heart that can touch our chained souls nd to break it

[@cocofoola-r3q]

Bravo Muzammil sa'ab!!! If hope you are in the UK sometime because I will be honoured, sir, to shake your hand.

[@baliharguru5478]

Muzammil is a real gentleman. Yeh sach hai k aap ki batein aam Pakistani ki samajh se bahr hai lekin koshish kartey raho❤🫡

[@affaqmalik5876]

indians ko yeh batay pasand hi aye gi Pakistan or 😂 jo islam ka thoda mukhailf ya librar banay

[@umerhayat1590]

Thank you Muzamil bhae for educating us 😊

[@neerajsilswal6912]

This man is pure gem I love his videos

[@asadiqbal7560]

People like you are the real heroes 😍🤩

[@najaffatima9229]

Wow, the great podcast with Mr. Muzammil shah, 2nd part needed

[@shawalkhan8287]

Syed Muzammil is a gem 💎

[@MussawirAli-wr6xo]

10000000% real man from inside out ❤

[@Mahrooshay]

Fav person syed muzammil ❤

[@bedarbakhtkhan3650]

Thank you for inviting such an intellectual person❤ Muzamil is Loveeeee

[@umfo-j5i]

Straight forward and bold person ❤

[@naveenpaudel1]

thanx muzzamil.... i wish i could listen you hours...

[@nurturethenature4490]

Such a smooth and to the point critique ❤

[@AbdulBasit-mh5vl]

Thank you JWT for the Podcast with Sir Syed MuzammiL Shah❤

[@blinders3081]

M from india i think these type of people can save pakistan

[@devendradhruw5350]

1st and last person of Pakistan who says always true

[@muhammadaqeel4127]

Awesome WT institution ❤

[@ummuham0raja605]

Syed Muzamil Shah narrative is wrong about PTI leader.

[@Bababakhtura]

Syed Muzammil is best ❤

[@Musabbin038]

As he spoke on Dr Aafia was understandable, but if he were also added Stive Stafford Smith British lawyer, his narrative would have balanced and people did not overwhelm.

[@indian9428]

7:04 totally disagree job of journalist is to show the real news its good bad or ugly , criticize government were they are wrong but also show the people if government has done some good work and have taken some strong decisions in democracy its opposition's job to criticize government , journalist job is to report the news on facts and not on one personal opinions

[@mdfarooqshahbabar5156]

it's opposition job to criticize govt & journalist job to highlight fact about good and bad not to criticize by their opinion. then in society who is responsible to present it's intellectual & rational opinion in the country like, where majority is in cult supported blindly where they have no comprehensive reading approach about past practices ?

[@corpsertag5967]

Journalist job is to simply collect and read the news out to people. That's all. Present the truth without Propaganda.

[@knowledgeable3277]

I also remember that sir muzamil said I will never join main stream media. I will search it and send it to u

[@manisshthakur621]

This world badly need more courageous, critical, rational and progressive people like him. Sadly such people are not appreciated by a tiny percentage of people.

[@sunala1265]

*Military Establishment's role in Pakistan's politics.* Pakistan military was constrained to get involved in Pakistani politics due to lack of mature Institutions of governance, political experience and instability after the brief Jinnah-Liaquat era. Pak polity had not matured and its leadership had chosen to undertake a military adventure in J&K in 1947. That was the slippery slope from which it is yet to recover. Since its creation on religious grounds , Pakistan has made anti- Indianism as its ideological ‘raison d’etre’. Consequently, military power and security against an existential threat from a larger neighbour has become its compulsive drive. The Military has capitalised on this fear-factor. To top it, once the Military tasted ‘blood’ of ‘over-riding power’ it is loathe to let it go. These factors have resulted in Pakistan maintaining a powerful military for its security against a nuclear India, on its own and through military alliances. Military power is not a unidimensional factor, it is a function of threats and conflict scenarios. Suffice it to say that Pak military is highly professional and powerful for its purpose. And they play a larger than legitimate role in Pak politics.

[@user-dq2lm7xy9m]

The level of his intellect can be measured from his position when he said that Bilawal went to PTI and asked to form a government. Seriously , what nonsense is all this . He carried his entire campaign based against Sharif family and then went to them to form a govt. After that he has found many opportunities where he could take principle stance but he preferred to be a puppet in the hands of strung puller . Seriously, a party which has suppressed so many ppl in Sindh and didn't provide them any social service is being expected to do any better ? How Asifa Bhutto got elected unopposingly in this period of 2024 ? Isn't it all political wheeling and dealings from PPP Don't buy such arguments, think rationally and draw your own conclusion

[@armughanshafique9538]

PPP is political cover for pseudo liberals and pro western NGO mafias in Pakistan. Don't expect them to say anything against Bilawal and Zardari.

[@shovasreepatnaik8462]

You should be very very cautious n concern for your life, beta. i m surprised you r still there in Pakistan. It is such an amazing feeling when I listen to u. Take care

[@umeshnaidu]

Thought preceds action: for revolutionary action to happen you need to develop the thought...: so well said

[@farhatpashtun6238]

Sir Syed Muzammil Shah is my inspiration ❤

[@sadaqatsamo5301]

تنکید جمہوریت کا حسن ہے، اور سید مزمل ہمارے دلوں میں رکس رکتا ہے، 🌹♥️

[@harishckashyap]

Very honest talk, Muzammil made his mind clear.

[@Onelove1famiky]

Syed bhai is the Pakistani to whom I respect a lot as an Indian . There r many educated pakistani but this man at least respect every religion n speaks on facts . Salute frm Canada Bhai . People like him should be in India coz we Indian follow these kind of intellectual but in pakistan people r not interested in his lecture , that’s y paksitan is still missing lack of knowledge . Just wanna pray for ur safe life n healthy future .

[@AsharAbbas-wl3wo]

One of the best loyal friend of Pakistan

[@indiaupdated8221]

@SyedMuzzamil - it is not true that subcontinent only fought against beef/pork. Last consequencial battle that British fought was that led to their complete dominance was the second Anglo-Maratha War (1803-1805), after which the first Mass rebellion happened in Santhal (present day Bangal and Bihar) by the tribal groups in 1855. The revolt of 1857 was a bigger concern because it was not people doing small rebellions here and there, it was a revolt in military. 90 years later, British finally left India because of the Revolt in Indian Navy.

[@SHIVAMYadav-pw5uz]

Ghnta revolt...😂... British left India because USA forced it to do so...and British had also lost so much in 2nd World war......... India government and its many of its institutions kept British after there departure....

[@muhammadhsanain320]

The host is extremely biased. I have always found sir Osama the best host on this platform

[@Dr.D83]

Han mein han milaney say Kisi bhe bande k mukamil khiyalat bahir ni aa skte. Interviewer is doing a good job. I loved the Q&As

[@shirishkumarbagi]

I agree that Imran khan is not very competent. But I think somehow he has become very popular and people are with him and hatred towards army has grown a lot and army's position has become politicaly very weak. So everyone should support IK. If IK wins this battle then its great chance for democracy to flourish in Pakistan. So people like syed should support IK and defeat army in this battle unless he himself is not a tout.

[@raghavan1067]

Imran khan pakistan ka rahul gandhi hai

[@Justforfun548]

What a man. Amazing MashaAllah a pure gift to this nation.

[@MuhammadRizwan-ps6et]

Syed muzammil love to see you in podcasts ...

[@abidurrehman1724]

مزمل بھائی بھی صرف باتوں کے افلاطون ہے۔ ساری زندگی تنقید ہی کرتا رہے گا اور آئیڈیل دنیا کی باتیں کرتا رہے گا۔

[@editventure786]

Thanks JWT for inviting the real gem 💎

[@081947]

تالیاں!👌

[@TajamulKazmiOffical]

Bohat Khoobsoorat

[@nazlimuzaffar7514]

اللہ تمکو اپنی امان میں رکھے آمین ثم آمین

[@peersyedshakeelhaider441]

love u man , God blessed u loootttt

[@BabarAli-dy7kp]

This podcast should have been done by Sir Ahsan...

[@DarvaishBandah]

یہ وطن اسٹیبلیشمنٹ کا ہے۔۔ ہم ہیں خوامخواہ اس میں 😂

[@zahidchoudhery754]

You should feel shame when you say comments about Imran Khan. That's what your parents taught you.

[@ShivamYadav-in2jg]

Muzammil is a gem !!

[@praiseddiamond]

There is nothing novel this guy is talked about, and he is merely throwing criticism on every negative aspects, which in fact, most Pakistanis already know. So, I wonder why so many people are watching this if no new ideas are emerging? Probably like me, people keep on watching to know why so many others watched it, but end up gaining nothing new.

[@Photon-1927]

Sensible content and worth watching

[@AMRITVIRKLAGAR]

Kewal Mujmil ko sunne k liye aaya hu🎉🎉

[@vs9324]

Why is Syed Muzammil sad and serious looking all the time? Heaven have not fallen ... yet. Or have they?

[@MuhammadRizwan548]

Worth listening

[@AsifRaza-e4v]

Very intelligent journalist

[@atokimruk937]

Muzzammil is wrong! You can not have military doing business and not involved in politics. Un both Tukwila and Malaysia, the military are very much involved in politics but it ebbs and flows and vacillitates between being open and being discreet. The militaries of both Turkey and Malaysia have been involved in coups. Don't forget the Turkey military coup against Erdogan a few years ago.

[@AlirazaShaikh-no1se]

Mashallah Sir. Neutrality has been seen here!

[@nareshkatyal8677]

Good to see Syed ji From India

[@contrarian322]

Good one.

[@aneesahmad168]

At last he says about that, changes come in bottom up approach. I agree with him. I think the political party should consist of simple people. Who are effected by the system. The party should train them and make a complete political party. And then bring revolution.

[@kayinatsevda2805]

Agreed Syed muzammil sir ❤❤

[@SHIVAMYadav-pw5uz]

Sayd muzamil ji ....aap maane ya na maane Imran khan ne jitna public ko aware kiya hai ....utna aap jindagi bhr nhi kr paate badi badi baaye krke....

[@vaunsag]

Shut up

[@crisk.krisk6283]

This man has an obsession with Khan. He only demonstrates his intellect by criticizing Imran Khan to stay relevant. Look at his argument: he claims he wasn't born during Bhutto's time, but when asked about the recent miseries faced by Khan, he suddenly shifts to the Bhutto era and argues that they also faced these kinds of problems. This 'desi Nietzsche's' entire intellectual output revolves around being against Khan. Khan merely stated that the Afghans have broken the chains of slavery, which he mentioned in a specific context. But this so-called intellectual has taken it out of context and uses it everywhere he goes. He won't mention Khawaja Asif's statement that the Taliban defeating America was the best thing that happened to the Afghans, specifically the statement 'Takatay Tumari Allah hamara.' I believe World Times has hit a new low by inviting a man who contradicts himself. He only talks about the problems in the country without presenting any solutions. There is no difference between him and an ordinary street vendor because a street vendor can describe the problems in this country just as well.

[@NoorKhan-ho2um]

You haven't understood him bro, that's what I would say after reading your comment. Syed muzimal said : "I want to destroy what you love , not what you already hate."

[@shakeelahmed2636]

@@NoorKhan-ho2um He does show his affinity towards what we hate, right? Then how come he is different from what we already hate?

[@3am_watch]

Bhai I can feel ur pain,, 😅

[@abdushshaheed6641]

​@@NoorKhan-ho2umbro wake up, syed muzamil also lives in an absurd situation.

[@armughanshafique9538]

In short words he is lite version of Pervez Hoodbhoy.

[@maqsoodhussain8016]

Sir why do you people use headphones? Function?

[@musaratjabeen3650]

Sham on you

[@rabiyab6927]

Akarr bari hai bhai mein.... Bruhhhh

[@shehlaahmed8]

Tax you didnt pay to PTI only. I never seen you criticizing mqryam like that.. Rubbish .. hypocrite

[@ChefbyMistake]

He is a Fraud

[@princessland-wt7wp]

Can someone please jot down the names of books that Muzammil enlisted?

[@cx4vr1dh4j]

Make a special video on Pakistan Army's involvement in Pakistan's democracy destruction..😅😅

[@LetsStudyTogether-LST]

allocated CSS officers ka interviews kb sa tart honga?

[@t.d.a17]

Muzammil sir you are very complicated

[@sirat-al-mustaqimbyshahabs1418]

Philosophy is like this

[@shahidbspmk08]

## Consequences of Lawlessness * **Societal Breakdown:** * Increased crime rates * Economic decline * Loss of trust in government * Civil unrest * **Personal Impact:** * Fear and insecurity * Reduced quality of life * Displacement * **Government Instability:** * Weakened authority * Corruption * Potential state failure