palladium and platinum recovery from ceramic capacitors KM6 H90 1MO

Pd and Pt extraction from some of the best yielding multi-layer ceramic capacitors (MLCCs) KM6 H90 1MO

[@buckstarchaser2376]

That box is called a capacitor bank (kinda obvious), and it is used in industrial facilities to counteract the inductive loads from motors and various coils. In household electricity, Power Factor is not really policed by the power company. For heavy consumers, if they don't balance the reactance on the line, the power company will quickly overheat without serving much "Real" electricity to anyone. Things with high capacitance (which helps to offset heavy motors/inductors) are generally computers/digital electronics with their switch-mode power supplies having a large capacitor right up front for the fast switching during all points of the input wave, Variable Frequency Drives, because they have to hold a charge for the asynchronous waveform output to not dip while the line voltage is crossing zero. Also, the big craze of adding fluorescent lightbulb tubes to every office space was largely due to them being overall capacitance-type loads. This helped businesses save additional money on their power bills beyond fewer "kilowatt hours". The florescent bulbs were pushed on households instead of the resistive incandescent lights because the power company saves a lot of money when it doesn't have to compensate as much for their own inductive loads. Households still pay like 5-10x more per kWh than heavy industry and commercial datacenters though.

[@jamisontaylor878]

Excellent video one of the most fascinating things in refining!!!! Those little beads drive me crazy as well

[@jamisontaylor878]

Going to melt sum silver plated contacts on tugnstin just for fun

[@whateversmurfette]

congratulations on this excellent find!

[@OwlTech333]

Thanks!

[@sayfalawneh702]

Lead evaporation made you lose about 75% or more of the rhodium in these mlccs in your first lead evaporation process the losing of rhodium continues with each lead evaporation process and finally you lost all the rhodium in the final cupeallation i expect more than 4 % of rhodium in your bead so collect with nickel sulfide if you have bigger amount of these mlccs next time If you dont know, rhodium can be collected with lead but you will lose most of it in the cupellation process Nice video owl

[@OwlTech333]

Great info, although I doubt there any rhodium at all in these MLCCs. But your proof of concept could be easily tested - just so it happens I have Rh & Pd containing catalytic converter

[@sayfalawneh702]

@@OwlTech333 Yeah a nickel sulfide collecter with an acidic flux (mostly borax, few carbonates and sand) will collect the PGMs including rhodium Then the bead will be processed with hcl eating nickel and leaving pgms behind, then a hot aqua regia with 2:1 hcl to nitric will eat pt pd and leave rhodium behind..

[@user-sd1ur4bn2r]

Как часто вы употребляете наркотики? Или не качественный алкоголь))(( Или это последствия вдыхания испарений кислот? Ну откуда ЦУКА родий в керамике русской ?? Дарвин был частично прав походу((

[@user-sd1ur4bn2r]

Мои любимые МОшечки)) СССР как всегда рулит))

[@OnsloVest]

Great to see new video. Thank you

[@OwlTech333]

Thank you too!

[@escrapchannel]

Beautiful video! Well done! 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟 👍

[@OwlTech333]

Thanks!

[@ozcanozcelik6625]

The methods you apply are very long but the results are good. There is nothing like removing the oil from the fly. Thank you master.

[@OwlTech333]

You are most welcome

[@alquimiavsmetalica5250]

Inefficient grinding tool. Take a 250w grinder and a round stainless steel food container with a fixing lid. Create the hole with a punch, which is more suitable than a drill for the central hole; grinders have a safety plate. Place your lunch box with the central hole well centered and place a spring to compress with the cutting disc fixing nut. From the safety plate you eliminate the part that prevents the projection of filers but retain the flat part and grinder head clamp. Mark with fine punch pin for pre-marking of perforation for non-body type peening type rivets . With the modification of the grinder project, the only granite cutting discs you need are discs with 6 3x3 radial grinding wheels on each side of the disc and diamond cutting center. It is modifying the safety plate on a 5000w grinder and must be reinforced with TIG welding 316 stainless steel plus compression or impact rivet. Warning, the large grinder notification is better to use another container such as thick steel cooking pot and closing size and should not be used without machine fixing spot.

[@urbanminer8003]

Well done great video and data!

[@OwlTech333]

Thanks for watching!

[@johnbackes2266]

as always, you're a artist. I really love your work

[@OwlTech333]

Thank you very much!

[@2001pulsar]

Nice result from nice material.

[@SocratePrimusSapiens]

Heya ! Another great pick up !!!! Dealing with oxidized lead residuals after cupelling, i keep them like AR in stock pot. Once a year, i reduce them into powder to recover all beads... The result is always full of ( awesome ) surprises and break the monotony of scraping days... Thanks for sharing and have a blessed day.

[@bymancini1]

Very interesting !

[@chosen1one930]

With your experience, do the round dipped of MLCCs ever have precious metals? All of the ones I've tested from high end boards, HP and other science equipment, yellow blue red etc yielded nothing worth my time.

[@tawnihaynie1065]

Cool. Thank you. B👍👍👍

[@OwlTech333]

Thank you too!

[@colonialcharlie8702]

Great footage of the molten bead!

[@OwlTech333]

Thanks!

[@dizzious]

Why do the beads always form around the cupel? Is it because of moisture in the cement, or maybe the Lead getting hot enough to boil? Anyway keep up the good work man! You are basically the king of mlcc refining.

[@OwlTech333]

that was my mistake, I should have conditioned the cupel first with little litharge, before putting a button which contains less than 20% lead. The cement is like filter paper: lets say you have water and oil for example, if you wet the filter paper with water, when you filter the water will pass through and the oil will remain on the filter, and if you wet the paper with oil first, the oil will pass, while the water will stay on the filter.

[@dizzious]

@@OwlTech333 thanks! I've had problems with the little metal droplets on cupels; I will have to try pre-wetting with some litharge next time.

[@blacklabelonthebedrocks]

@@OwlTech333 Very good explanation!

[@ourodolixo-e]

Very good 🎉

[@OwlTech333]

Thanks 😊

[@user-fs9wj7ho7e]

شكرا على هذا الفيديو الممتاز هل قوة النار لها دور وشكرا جزيلا لك

[@OwlTech333]

دائماً

[@stevenliu-litop]

recyclingn produces metal Iridium/Ruthenium/palladium/rhodium/rhodium Powder❤

[@CandSMINING]

Thanks for taking us along on this adventure. I have several large pc cards that I need to process. Are all ceramics good to work with? I subbed to you. 😎😎🔥🔥⛏⛏

[@OwlTech333]

Welcome aboard! Not all ceramic capacitors contain precious metals

[@edwardhughes352]

Nice work. How do you know when the lead has gone and the cupellation has finnished?

[@2001pulsar]

After the lead oxide stops flowing off, there's a rainbow which is the last bit of lead. Then after the rainbow it solidifies as silvery button.

[@OwlTech333]

@@2001pulsar Beat me to it :)

[@2001pulsar]

@@OwlTech333 😛👍 I learned from a good master.

[@arslanyaseen3466]

Nice video

[@OwlTech333]

Thank you! Glad you like it!

[@julianalcorso5703]

Bloody Hell OWL! If your videos get any better you will be off to Hollywood. Great content. some of the very best on UTube. Well done you!!

[@OwlTech333]

Thank you!

[@stevebad100]

So os it possible to sell the Palladium in the UK? I have a friend with alit of Capacitators but not sure how to melt in down like in this video

[@zafarazmi7599]

Best wishes 💐💐💐

[@OwlTech333]

Thanks a lot

[@chosen1one930]

Great work as always. Have you seen any of trinity gold recoverys videos? He built a unique grinder, of course it would need a different blade for grinding material like this. Have a good weekend and nice score, you never know what you'll find at the scrap yard

[@OwlTech333]

I will check it out

[@chosen1one930]

@@OwlTech333 he's so ewhat new and I've been helping him with tips and advice for different to process material. He says he's planning to make a video on how to build the grinder

[@colonialcharlie8702]

Electric chainsaw addition to convert stainless steel coffee grinder is what it looks like. Does the job nicely, holding a good amount. I have a decent amount of these older different looking ones mixed. No clue as to origin though boards are all mixed together. Hope they are as good as those ussr ones. I set them aside with those older blue ones.

[@OwlTech333]

I have one build from angle grinder but I'm waiting for this one to die first

[@graciekun738]

@@OwlTech333 You might want to up your O2 level for your burning torch, as you normally want the small blue flame at the tip or the torch to be smaller (about 1cm or even less). That blue flame is also the hottest part of your torches flame. I am assuming your using propane or at most Propylene or Mapp gas, propane or propylene would be cheaper. (I use to use old hot water tank heater rings, as burn out torches for electric motors that I was rewinding, and even more modern home furnace burners, that I got from scraping a furnace as a point heat system.) One mans trash is another mans treasure...take it light --KB

[@omjidar]

Your videos are not less than a university master class. Great work with finer details explained. I have one question in older video of yours on similar process you were not adding litharge but only lead why this time and what is the ratio. Thanks and keep spreading the power of knowledge

[@OwlTech333]

1:1 ration ground powder to litharge. It is intended as part of the flux. I've noticed that it makes the slag much thinner. Another reason for adding it is that I can mix it more intimately with the MLCCs powder, wetting it when heated to litharge's melting point. The other purpose is its action on ceramics, since litharge sooner or later destroys all crucibles it has contact with, I thought it will have the same action on the barium titanate ceramic.

[@blackcrow6110]

Зачем заморачиваться? Я кладу свинец и серебро сразу на км конденсаторы и продуваю хорошенько кислородом после всё по классике кислотами разделяю...

[@blacklabelonthebedrocks]

Hi OwlTech, Another great video from you. Many thanks for sharing! The device seems to be a kind of power supply (maybe high voltage). Good haul! I love the look of the molten metal while cupelling, it has something magic. And you are the wizard! Did you realize the date on the XRF-screen? Magic! ;-) Best regards from Germany!

[@OwlTech333]

Hi there! Thank you for watching!

[@ba-uy7ft]

bonjour, merci pour toutes ces vidéos magnifique. j ai une question a vous posez , peut ont utilisé de l étain ou du zinc pour faire une coupellation ? je n est pas de plomb . merci d avance et bonne chance

[@OwlTech333]

No but you can use bismuth instead

[@user-vg7ux7xl2k]

Привет дружище, хорошая работа и достойный результат! Скажи а почему остался свинец, ведь при купелировании он должен был уйти весь? Да и км-ки конечно жирные. В каком городе за границей в углу мусорки такие штуки? :-) Всего тебе доброго и творческих успехов.

[@jessewilson8676]

It would be nice to see the AG from the same

[@mageletronicaramos]

exceleent

[@OwlTech333]

Thank you!

[@Tyler.i.81]

Go go go

[@ilikechamp3086]

화학약품 투여 순서와 약품이름을 알려주실수 있습니까 ??

[@grebulocities8225]

Are you going to do another video on separating and refining the Pd/Pt/Ag from your buttons? I know you've done videos on this process before, but this time we have hard numbers on how much to expect and I'd love to see how efficient your process is since PGM refining is a lot harder than gold refining, with most precipitants not being quantitative and selective at the same time. Also, a member on GRF is sending me 11 g of USSR capacitors and I want to see how my first-time refining effort compares to an experienced refiner of the same type of material. :)

[@OwlTech333]

That is the plan

[@nickforest8098]

Wonder what is the use of adding lead and NaOH before smelting

[@OwlTech333]

NaOH is used as a flux and the lead is used as a collector metal

[@mahmmud980]

Goood

[@aliosmankucukpacalar]

Hı. There is iron in the palladium mine. How is it separated sir?

[@OwlTech333]

During the process shown it is remover by the lead

[@ScrapFatherScrapSon]

Why not just pour the cup out? Melting plastic isn’t part of the “charge” is it?

[@OwlTech333]

It’s not but it’s difficult to perform without getting a second degree burn and while keeping the PE cup intact

[@user-is4jn1pc3z]

Привет. Вы потом шлак спектральный анализ делали, остаётся что в шлаке? Метод понравился хочу отработать.

[@OwlTech333]

Привет.Делал, шлак пустой

[@thomaslechner1622]

Currently, platinum below 1000 bucks per ounce is a strong buy!

[@OwlTech333]

Agree

[@parhamtaheri4549]

Thankyou

[@OwlTech333]

You’re welcome 😊

[@Kazanova9]

السؤال / كيف ابيع البلاديوم؟

[@shaneyork300]

👍

[@user-fs9wj7ho7e]

لماذا اضافة هيدوركسد الصوديوم وهل يتبخر البلاديوم وأين الفضه وشكرا

[@OwlTech333]

يخفف هيدروكسيد الصوديوم الخبث ، ولا يتبخر البلاديوم ، لكنه يظل مخلوطًا بالفضة في نهاية التكوير.

[@user-fs9wj7ho7e]

@@OwlTech333 مشكور يا أستاذ علي هذه المعلومه لكن هل قوة نار الأكسجين لا تبخر البلاديوم او الفضه ومشكور مرة أخرى

[@user-fs9wj7ho7e]

@@OwlTech333 هل هناك فرق بين الروديوم والبلاديوم

[@Edward-ju1vj]

How can I identify if a capacitor has palladium in it or not

[@OwlTech333]

It’s hard to tell it’s like identifying gold ore, but most importantly the capacitor should be ceramic, one can tell by cutting it in half

[@sasaforce]

Why you put costac soda

[@tomspeed2000]

without acid works .. its grate

[@OwlTech333]

And much faster

[@user-ln3bx6wn8o]

احسنت العمل

[@OwlTech333]

Thanks!

[@choeytheeaaa5964]

Rhodium scrap please

[@sheilaboothroyd4293]

I may of missed it but how much was it worth??

[@OwlTech333]

$425 at the time

[@szucslorant4115]

Hello. thanks you for your videos. most best and professionals, im like it. I wish use like you this lead melting technique. i wish understand deeply the technique to understand how is working.Can you tell how is separate the paladium from lead? this is beacuse the two diferent metal melting point is diferent?and why need put silver with lead? nothing paladium will stay after in lead? thanks lot, good luck, and care your health..

[@OwlTech333]

Google “cupellation”

[@szucslorant4115]

@@OwlTech333 great ,thanks

[@ilmulogamdantehnikpelogama9569]

Hello friends, what is cupeling kowi made of, sir?

[@OwlTech333]

Portland cement

[@bigusdickus9346]

Is there a way to be certain my Ceramic caps have platinum and palladium without actually processing any? I have 100's of boards with them.

[@blackcrow6110]

Подскажите у вас горелка для пайки на кислород и пропан???.

[@OwlTech333]

Да

[@blackcrow6110]

@@OwlTech333 Не могу решить проблему, серебро пузырится после остывании, причина (кислород) происходит раскисления металла а буру не хочу сыпать так как форма графитовое и не хочу портить )

[@blackcrow6110]

@@OwlTech333 Надеюсь горелкой для пайки экономнее чем обычным резаком работать? Я работаю резаком до 100мм с внутренним соплом номер 1 и расход кислорода колоссальный думаю пробовать купить как у вас горелка для пайки!

[@MoonChild-iy8od]

Nice video I have about a kilo gram of these capacitors where do I sell them?

[@OwlTech333]

Are you sure they are the same?

[@alquimiavsmetalica5250]

I am a Metallurgical technical engineer, I do not subscribe but I do share your video with people who do not have my experience, greetings . I have another account and since between channels KZbin doesn't pay so that's why I don't subscribe but your channel appears in my saved list 🤙 Lo lamento pero no llego a mí grado de experiencia en recuperación metales preciosos no me suscribire pero a amigos que aún no tienen título químico les compartiré su método aún que es ineficiente a mi parecer

[@OwlTech333]

Thank you! I appreciate your comments!

[@user-zw4nu3mo5p]

Супер познавательно

[@OwlTech333]

Спасибо!

[@mahmmud980]

انت المفضل لي

[@user-cb1ve6ke6y]

Привет, лайк, я из России, было очень интересно, спасибо за видео.

[@OwlTech333]

Привет, спасибо за просмотр!

[@sxfvvgcd4829]

صباح الخير بوردات الموبايل هل تحتوي على بلاديوم

[@OwlTech333]

Some of them

[@sxfvvgcd4829]

مساء الخيرات اخي العزيز ممكن مرسب الذهب او محايد نتريك او ممكن اسم مرسب البلاديوم او محايد نتريك البلاديوم

[@dirtywhiteboy4963]

how much is it worth?!

[@OwlTech333]

$425 at the time

[@user-yx7qo3vb9i]

الماذا ضفت الفضه هل الرصاص لايكفي الوحده وماهوه دور الفضه هنا شكرن لك ❤

[@OwlTech333]

It is added to collect silver, after cupelling it’s easier to look for 100g instead of 1g

[@alquimiavsmetalica5250]

This process seems like a waste of time to me. Take 31g of silver to create just the initial amalgam and pour form gravitated ingot lake . Every time you have to recover metal from ceramics, cut the same silver ingot but you will change the oven . You replace the lead with sodium chloride or table salt. The molten salt drags ferrous metals and expels the ceramic. 31g of silver or the average ounce can with amalgam total 500g of platinum and all of its group . When the silver is already very saturated, it will be processed like refining gold in jewelry. Ingot not exceeding 7mm 15cm length and 2cm width to roll on rollers . When rolling metal up to 0.7mm cut into 5cm pieces and bend the metal a little or create a single coil on itself. The recovery will be by nitric acid and distilled water. If there are traces of copper or ferric metal, it will be destroyed by the acid, leaving only the platinum group metals. The acid is saturated only in beach, copper destroys it so in a ventilated place why the emanation of gases is ☠️ The metal will already be recovered from the ceramic and if you do not salt too much the nitric acid will only contain the platinum group metals and remember that no lead was added . Metal can be preserved without melting and if you do, I recommend an induction furnace to melt metals. And you will not lose the silver to recover it from the acid I added to it after removing the desired metal by decanting sodium cholide . The silver obtained is not in its metallic state. A copper plate will be placed on the catalyzed solution and you will slowly see how the silver crystallizes if you can melt it. But if you have an induction furnace, I use tin as the sacrificial metal. First, I only melt until the sacrificial metal is saturated and with the same process of cutting ingot from the previous cast. * Taking into account that tin melts at a low temperature, it accelerates the process, you can also use lead but it is toxic when melted and now we proceed to eliminate it by temperature. , Induction furnaces offer a constant and controlled temperature and melt the metals very quickly at 3000°C, this will eliminate the amalgam metals and only platinum and palladium will remain. This type of capacitor, ceramic semiconductors, all contain more or less amounts of flat pallatium, rhodium and titanium, make a mistake. For umeda sublimation by casting, I no longer see it as logical to use lead, but in the time required for the sublimation or calcination of the unwanted metal, I would have already recovered more than 100kg with induction ovens. The monetary expenditure on gas is higher than on electricity. First, gas takes up to 40 minutes and the smelting furnace only takes 15 minutes per cast. As the tool described processes 100% of this type of capacitor, not only those that have the highest percentage of the desired metal at 3000°C, what is not of interest will be eliminated.

[@OwlTech333]

Thank you for the effort writing this down

[@alquimiavsmetalica5250]

@@OwlTech333 Your answer is not translated, I sent it translated because your channel is in English

[@juansilvaleiva2237]

Porque rechucha no ponen en español estos temas de mi interes?

[@vladimirgalvis4262]

Hello friend, I hope you are well, I wanted to ask you a question, I have some stones that contain 20% rhodium, but they also contain 70% iron and quartz. When grinding it, a sand remains. I would like to know how to metalize the rhodium of that sand and make a metal bar. I hope you can help me have a good day

[@sandotony]

Troppo show

[@A_player_in_useGD]

bro i thought this was a hotdog comercial

[@OwlTech333]

How come??

[@A_player_in_useGD]

@@OwlTech333 the img looks like hotdogs

[@edz587]

The process is very complicated and unconvincing

[@OwlTech333]

Thanks for your time!

[@L1uk0]

What the hell you got in your mind burning plastic glass with the burner...

[@billyingram8347]

can i buy this from you ?

[@OwlTech333]

Buy what?

[@joserodriguesfernandes5919]

Fala em português assim não dá nos não somos americanos

[@entin5138]

i dont see any paladium or something else....only see steel in this video

[@alligator8811]

Приветствую! Субтитры можно включить?

[@OwlTech333]

буду

[@NRF.channel]

Hai guest tree CTR tv

[@rafaeldiegonavarro]

you need to edit the video man,so much time wasted there was one clip where you filmed the floor for 20 seconds . And on top of that you dont film all your steps .

[@OwlTech333]

Noted

[@ssofmas8473]

@@OwlTech333 it’s good video for me I am new comer that too much useful I see your hand and learn a lot of thing don’t cut videos

[@hasantokgoz3069]

Sağol kardeşim Allah razı olsun senden çok çok teşeķürlér diliyorum sana Arslan kardeşim sana nekadar teşekür etsem az kardeşim birşey isteyceğim senden kardeşim bu videoyu videosunu Türkçe diline çevirmen mümkünmü kardeşim çok çok teşeķürlér diliyorum sana Allah razı olsun senden hadi hoşcakal

[@OwlTech333]

Evet

[@djillaliazzaz7284]

do you want work with me ?

[@OwlTech333]

doing what exactly?

[@tinsoffish1810]

First!😎

[@OwlTech333]

Yes you are!

[@tinsoffish1810]

@@OwlTech333 have missed your work! GREAT SCORE! Now find 100 more of those..

[@OwlTech333]

@@tinsoffish1810 I did, not quite the same but still something to show :D

[@tinsoffish1810]

@@OwlTech333 i cant see the top to count,how many was that?

[@OwlTech333]

@@tinsoffish1810 48

[@firasabbis9682]

Modern electrolytic capacitors do not contain palladium or platinum, but rather contain aluminum, so they explode quickly. If it were palladium or platinum, it would not explode due to the high melting point of platinum and palladium. Laugh your video on fools only 🤣🤣

[@OwlTech333]

there's a HUGE difference between electrolytic capacitors and MLCCs (multi-layer CERAMIC capacitors)

[@alipbata.akustik2686]

Yang komentar nya bodoh,di video itu kapasitor keramik ,bukan nya kapasitor electrolit,maka nya nyimak sebelum komentar,itu sama saja melihatkan kebodohan kita ke publik🤣🙏

[@RedDeckRedemption]

The old ones are what I hunt for anyway.

[@Tridenux]

that's why those ancient computer last so long​@@RedDeckRedemption

[@wireless1601]

How NOT to recover metals...

[@OwlTech333]

Well I’m always open to suggestions

[@hajimuhammedqasim4047]

No need such lengthey proses

[@roberthowkins3097]

Like poems ?