2018 Whipple Supercharged Mustang GT on the Dyno! Whipple vs PBD Tune

Larry brought us his gorgeous 2018 Mustang GT convertible outfitted with a Whipple Stage 1 Supercharger system to see what we could do with it. First we did a baseline on the Whipple tune, then we added our tune to his Stage 1 setup to see the results of the tune change. Then we upgraded it to the Stage 2 throttle body and pulley to see the max power we could make on 93 octane.

[@refusetolosethis779]

I love that table top torque curve. That's badass. This is why I prefer the PD blowers over the centrifugals. The street manners are unmatched with the PD blowers with gobs of torque.

[@powerandpose3217]

Been loving the videos lately! Lots of info from the the engine shop to going over tuning. I think these videos really help seal the deal for people who are on the fence of going aftermarket tune. Keep it up homies

[@mustangscott7694]

I'm so excited to see the gains the car makes with your tune...

[@mustangscott7694]

Man you guys did it again!!! These are the most informative vlogs! I have st.2 from whipple but this is exactly the process I will have to go through with you guys.. I really love to actually SEE THE PROCESS. It puts my mind at ease. Thank you guys so much.. Scott

[@scottsigmon926]

Man you have been killing it lately with the videos!!!! Just goes to show what a STOCK coyote can make with just the whipple blower and tune. Keep them coming please!

[@chrism.728]

Great gains with only bigger throttle body, smaller pulley, BAP, and tune! Catless mid-pipe, longtube headers, bigger injectors, fuel pumps, and E85 tune would definitely wake this car up even more!

[@PGG909]

Great content lately guys!! Love the 2018+ stuff.

[@FlatPlaneCranky]

You’re videos are by far the best!! Keep em comin:)

[@BAMotorsports]

Man look at Rob doin work !! Love them green tools.

[@daimyo_one]

I like how you guys to the time to go through the dyno log vs to just showing numbers. Keep up the great content.

[@SpeedyWinds]

The dog! :D

[@PalmBeachDyno]

Simon is upset he hasn't been featured yet. We are going to start working him in more

[@SpeedyWinds]

Nice :)

[@BenHayat]

One-stop-shop solution for Florida guys.

[@Topofthelinetommy]

The dog is doing a systems check

[@victorxavier9977]

Cool dog! Hey Ken you like heavy metal, sounds like Yngwie Malmsteen in the background.

[@derekthegreat1114]

Awesome video!! Thanks

[@paranormal_6lacktivity5.0]

That's great power with just a blower

[@thereissomecoolstuff]

How did Rob make it so long in this video without his red Solo cup. #redcuprob

[@TonyM-zi9rq]

Ken, great vid as usual! What rear gears were in this car? Even for near 700whp the car just seemed to pull slow to the top end.

[@mrbinniemar]

Love the video, music was not necessary!

[@Topofthelinetommy]

Blower definitely got louder with the new pulley and throttle body. Does the Whipple stage 1 come with the open cold air intake standard? I'm seeing some people have it and some people have a closed airbox.

[@timmartin4798]

Why does the 2020 GT500 with a 5.2 and 12lbs of boost only make 700+ engine hp when the same engine from ford racing N/A makes 580hp. Seems like a low number to me.

[@TqSNv9R0iG5Ckxew]

I highly doubt that 12 psi number we've been seeing. At 12:1 compression that would easily put the GT500 in 900+ hp territory. I want to believe, but I can't.

[@timmartin4798]

@@TqSNv9R0iG5Ckxew i know the coyote with what 9psi whipple making 700 to the wheels. Even the 5.2 GT350 with 526hp with 8psi makes 800hp.

[@TqSNv9R0iG5Ckxew]

@@timmartin4798 To be fair, I was (incorrectly?) assuming they would keep the 12:1 compression ratio. Ford will likely drop it for the GT500, but it still sounds promising.

[@operationmindcrime4469]

The 5.2 "voodoo" motor has a cross plane crank and an 8k+ redline. I remember that back in the day, 30 odd years ago, that some group made a Pinto engine that did 800hp at an astonishing 14k RPM. Euro HP...small displacement motors that are perfectly balanced, wind up all the way to next Tuesday but have a torque curve that looks like your grandmom's rascal scooter. When SVT dropped a 2.6L compressor on top of the Voodoo, every single one of them blew up. After 2 years of delay, the apparent solution is to put a 90degree, balanced crank with a beefed up bottom end and a significantly reduced redline. That being said, KB made a 1.1k hp voodoo using this configuration but I think everyone here would go broke just trying to buy the engine let alone the whole car. I don't understand why SVT felt the need to cling to voodoo so desperately. If you've been in a cave, you may not know that a group will be putting out a 5.0GT based "Bullitt" Mustang that will have 2 flavors...779hp and 900hp. The GT500 is gonna get curb stomped by a Roush/Saleen type splinter mustang. Nice one, Ford. /golfclap

[@TqSNv9R0iG5Ckxew]

@@operationmindcrime4469 The Voodoo uses a flat plane crank, but we know what you meant. I own one and still agree that they're over hyped. If you think that modifying a coyote is expensive, try buying a custom set of cams or a billet crank for a voodoo. It's so expensive that it just doesn't happen.

[@alexgaca248]

Is the plastic IAT sensor from whipple a bit of a bear to get out? I’ve heard some like to break...

[@chrisarnold175]

What kind of numbers would I see with the whipple stage 2 with their tune? I'm getting mine installed next week. Just curious. I have a 2019 GT pp1.

[@shawnsanders9450]

Why didn't the stage 2 make any more torque? Especially since there was a pulley change.

[@PalmBeachDyno]

It's octane limited, which is one of the drawbacks of the 18. You add boost but you have to pull timing for a net change of zero in that area. This is compounded on a car with stock cats/exhaust.

[@Danny-cq9sl]

@@PalmBeachDyno I have a 18 also I'm putting the same blower on right now I'm gonna have you guys tune it is there something to need to address to be able to feed it timing

[@whipple5.022]

What's the price for the throttle body? As apposed to just going Stage 2?

[@rawlow1000]

OK I want to know can you guys tune my 2011 whipple,2.3L Mustang, I have a L&m 66 throttle body, kooks,long tubes, id1000 and a boosta,pump, I will be letting Anthony ballard, do it my car idle, high, and when it's hot out side it wants to cut of when I slow down and surg, some .when it's cold out it runs a lot better , my tuner has tried everything even different trottle,body's still tha, same

[@IgorZaripovOfficial]

Can you tune 2021 F150 with Wipplle?

[@sobczakj2005]

Are the oil pump gears an issue for the 3rd gen coyote motors? How does your rev limiter and tuning help not break these gears?

[@GhostlyGhille]

The issue with the opg on coyotes is when you throw a blower on a car it puts extra stress on the front cover and in turn the opg which was designed for it. So if your putting a blower billet opg replacement is highly recommended especially on applications over 650whp

[@blackonefifty]

GhostlyGhille it’s actually harmonics and comes from banging limiter and is more of an issue for Gen 1/2 motors as the Gen 3 has a viscous damper that reduces harmonics and the violence that comes from banging said limiter. Yes, they make aftermarket OPG/CS and it probably wouldn’t hurt to do them but they aren’t as painfully crucial as they were on the prior iterations of the Coyote.

[@rawlow1000]

can you guys tune a 2011 gt whit a whipple,2.3L and a twin, 71 whipple throttle body with long tube, Mustang I will be letting Anthony ballerd, tune it

[@PalmBeachDyno]

Yes sir. Just get with Ballard and he will take care of you

[@Gu3ssWhoki113dU1]

Where can you get a intake like that for the whipple?

[@zeqzi2642]

Fr I’ve been looking for one like that

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

PBD on hat ?

[@JohnCummings0109]

Oh yeah whipple tune is awesome......if you like blowing motors up... I made a colossal mistake in trusting whipples tune. I will never touch another product from that company. Supercharger seized up on startup, was brand new in box. Install by a shop, I witnessed failure. After we got the new unit in, tune blew motor within a day. Had a local tuner break down the tune, the front cylinders were pulling fuel from rear, and killed the rings on pistons. Garbage tuning, garbage product from whipple.

[@TEAMIMPORTKILLER]

Aren't these guys that modded their new stang afraid to lose warranty?

[@blackonefifty]

I’m sure someone who can belt out 10 grand or better on a Whipple setup with supporting fuel system isn’t worried about losing an engine.

[@TEAMIMPORTKILLER]

@@blackonefifty that's the only reason I've kept my 18 semi stock is because the warranty lol. I just race my zo6 instead lol

[@blackonefifty]

TEAMIMPORTKILLER I wish I had that problem 😂

[@TEAMIMPORTKILLER]

@@blackonefifty 😂

[@zydrunassavickas1]

tunemaker

[@jmcg7906]

Good video, but damn, that music. 👎🏻