Palpatine FINALLY Reveals Why Anakin Was WEAK on Mustafar - Star Wars Explained

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[@newhybrid101]

Even Hayden Christensen said Anakin was unfocused and that his strength comes from focus. Against Dooku he had focused anger,against Obi-Wan he was unfocused

[@fullsilverbig95]

True even when he is vader most of defeat are bc he lost focus or facing the part of anakin that are still on him his anger and power in darkside are stronger as shown against obi wan but he can be easily tricked and be beaten . So he lose . Thats why vader is almost unbeatable most of the time bc he calm and put only his faith on the force ( not the darkside only)

[@dreadrath]

Huh, that's pretty interesting. I'd always assumed the Anakin that fought Obi-Wan was stronger than the one who defeated Dooku, but it actually kind of makes sense that the oposite is true since Anakin had been dead set of taking Dooku down for a very long time, getting payback for his lost arm and all. But naturally he'd feel very conflicted fighting Obi-Wan. I suppose it might be fairer to say that Anakin was more "Powerful" against Obi-Wan, but he just wasn't using that power particularly well due to his inner-turmoil.

[@scurvofpcp]

Anakin was focused on himself and worse yet on self pity and childish rage at the unfairness of it. And don't get me wrong, we all need to take a moment from time to time to admire how the world screws us over, but that needs to be kept in its own time and space because it will ruin you otherwise.

[@209Richsta]

Also he wasn't fully embracing the dark side either. Sith Lords eyes turn yellow when they're fully embracing the dark side, which he was before Padame showed up. It wasnt until towards the end of the duel his eye color changed back

[@davemccombs]

Yeah it's clickbait, dude. Of COURSE nobody is "revealing" anything anymore about a story that was thoroughly understood exactly 2 hours after its release, 20 years ago.

[@eds1942]

It come down to a number of factors; 1 - Obi-Wan had trained Anakin and fought along side Anakin. 2 - Anakin was arrogant and couldn’t control his emotions. While Obi-Wan remained focused and grounded. 3 - Anakin/Vader couldn’t fully detach himself from Anakin. So when things got personal, they were deeply personal. So, Anakin wasn’t fighting some faceless random. He was fighting someone that he knew. As a result Anakin/Vader just lashed out, driven by an almost blind rage. 4 - the Jedi trained on a curved scale, so that fewer would progress too far or too below their peers. 5 - with Anakin, this was further complicated by the fact that as the Chosen One, he was far more naturally skilled than his peers and could feel that his potential was well beyond them as well. As a result this (& 4), Anakin never pushed himself to his limits, it was all too easy for him. Essentially further holding himself back from reaching his full potential. 6 - Lastly, he misunderstood the prophecy of the Chosen One and conflated Force potential, skill, physical strength and youth, with how powerful and skilled he actually was at the time and that as the CO, he was automatically unstoppable.

[@bharris0619]

CO?

[@eds1942]

@@bharris0619 CO = the Chosen One. I should’ve probably introduced that earlier. It would’ve save a bit of writing.

[@slickchick5811]

meh. prophecies aren't fact. For all the hype about being 'chosen to bring balance' he turned for the worst of reasons, killed innocents and just became a puppet confined to a suit. So big deal. He never balanced anything. Padme dies in the most cornball way, a broken heart. The same woman running around with her back cut open like it was nothing. Just some of the goofiest cliche stuff tossed in. Anakin being headstrong is one thing being stupid is another. "OH NOES, I KILLED MASTER WINDU. I will now serve you emperor because of a bad dream." Idiot.

[@eds1942]

@@slickchick5811 Come on man. It’s better than him just being the Star Wars version of the devil. All of the symbolism with Anakin crying, Mustafar, believing that being the most power means that he should rule over everything, falling into the lava, having his wings clipped by his “brother”, his transformation into monstrous inhuman machine bent on evil, was inspired by a painting by Alexandre Cabanel, ‘the Fallen Angel’. Without his very flawed human drama, there wouldn’t anything to sympathize with. But, too many now-a-days, have him on pedestal next to space Jesus. I guess do to this drama and him being of a virgin birth, the Chosen One who restored Balance to the Force,.. and saved the galaxy (after first destroying any semblance to balance and brought destruction and tyranny to the galaxy.

[@taetrrtot6205]

​@@slickchick5811he did bring balance he brought down both the Jedi and the Sith. However I agree 100% bro literally betrayed everyone he ever knew or loved to "save Padme" who he himself killed. He was a failure as a Sith and a Jedi he was always a great fighter but he never studied the force how a master should and he could never truly embody either

[@violabeaumont3758]

Anakin lacked Conviction on Mustafar, this is what it all boils down to.. which in a way makes his lesson of conviction to Ashoka even deeper. Anakin understands through personal experience how lost you are without conviction. Obi Wan on the other hand had clear conviction in what had to be done on Mustafar despite his love for Anakin.

[@charger1369]

This is basically it.

[@marshalllatta2073]

I love the mustafar duel one of the best star wars sences in all of star wars

[@coreyblakee332]

Defo the best lightsaber duel

[@chrisdakis2320]

Personally I think it was his rage that blinded him and caused him to lose. He just stopped thinking and attacked. Instead of using his rage as a tool he became a tool for his rage. If he had his emotions under control like the fight with Reva he would have beaten Kenobi

[@HellfireClub242]

Episodes 1-6 were excellent! I loved the Skywalker saga. I loved the characters who truly deserved their legacy status. However, the dark side truly won when Disney bought Lucasfilm.

[@DJ_Joe_DC]

Yep, the storyline for 7, 8 & 9 was rubbish tbh

[@Amoschp524]

Their intentions should have been obvious when they only added images of the Empire to their banners.

[@HellfireClub242]

@DJ_Joe_DC It was a crime against the Star Wars franchise. Now all we see is Disney trying to fix every mistake they made in the ST.

[@HellfireClub242]

@@Amoschp524 Disney had no plan. They had nothing but take little pieces of the EU. Hardly original thought or proper research.

[@omega1845]

7 wasn’t bad but was still bad compared to 1-6

[@RedShogun13]

This is a trick question. Anakin wasn’t weak on Mustafar. He had little control over his power and more importantly his emotions. He had all this raw power and stamina but was easily manipulated/out smarted because his opponent was so much more focused and clear headed.

[@flintironstag2381]

I always thought that Anakin had "tunnel vision" while dueling obi wan, never thinking too far ahead. Obi wan seemed to be more mindful of his surroundings, looking ahead for any advantage. But, when he got the high ground, it was Anakin's arrogance that did him in.

[@timoshea1767]

especially using a tactic that Obi had used against Darth Maul he new what was coming.

[@hurmur9528]

Though in the end one could wonder what have happened if Obi Wan had secured his victory and killed Vader. Had it been positive or negative? Since this victory depended entirely on Yoda killing Palpatine… something he did not suceed with. Vader was an important instrument for sure for Palpatine. But he was also his doom in the end. Had anyone even been able to kill Palpatine else.

[@1helioss]

Obi-wan is so underrated, yeah his determination helped him win but more importantly, he IS the master of Soresu, that is his feat, he stalled Anakin perfectly till he got his opening which is exactly what Soresu is. He remained calm and composed because he's a Jedi, whereas Sith base their power off anger. Obi-wan won that fair and square. I hate the excuse "he knows all of Anakin's moves". While that's true, Anakin knows all his moves too, he grew up with Obi-wan, his master taught him everything he knows. Furthermore, why does nobody talk abt the fact that Obi-wan beat him again during the Obi-Wan series, left him on the brink off death AGAIN. This was many years after Mustafar, this was after Anakin was able to learn to use the darkside and after he hunted all those Jedi across the galaxy. That fight might be an even greater feat than the Mustafar fight.

[@gavomorg762]

100 agree plus Obi wan knew what needed to be done amd was focused and nost importantly completely and utterly centred within the force .As far as knew Yoda coyld of been killed by Sidious and Obi wan was the very last of the Jedi order and needed to keep that alive..I absolutely ❤ this duel and i know a lot of peopel say its a bit over the top and parts of it are but still i think its amazing especially when its cutting g back and forth to Yoda and the" SENATE" fighting ,Truly SW at its best

[@ENEMYAC130AB0VE]

I think you exemplified why the duel between Vader and Obi wan in the series doesn’t make a lick of sense. The show was a nostalgia money grab, I don’t see how Kenobi could come close to beating Vader at that point. The first duel on Mustafar makes perfect sense between confliction, arrogance, and Obi WANs mastery of from 3, it makes sense for him to win. Disney doesn’t even attempt to show any reason why. Vader was more powerful, a better duelist at this point and had started mastering his emotions and the darkside for 10 years. Kenobi hasn’t trained or even used the force in a decade and over a few days magically regains this? Because he THOUGHT of Luke and Leia? On top of it all wasn’t even using form 3 for the second half of the duel, the only from he truly mastered. I just don’t see how it makes sense, when someone is more powerful in Star Wars and they lose, there has always been a reason. Unless Disney is now saying Kenobi is more powerful.

[@ishaanpoddar7654]

The reason Kenobi was able to win the duel in the Obi-Wan series is because Vader got cocky and thought he killed Kenobi when he tried to bury Kenobi alive. In that moment of desperation, Kenobi got his determination back which was his winning trait in Mustafar. After that, he switched up from pure Form 3 to a more aggressive style because he figured out the only weakness Vader had, his cybernetic body. Vader's cybernetic body severely limited his physical agility and movement, caused him immense pain and was basically life support for Vader. added to that, Kenobi's style in the 2nd part of their re-duel was surprisingly aggresive for him which allowed him to get a couple of hits on his armour with the rocks and then his lightber. This damaged Vader's cybernetic armour to the point that Kenobi managed to gain a clear advantage. Also you're forgetting that even though Vader was more powerful in the force than Kenobi, he was not as powerful as he could have been due to the loss of midichlorians after the duel of in Mustafar. he lost a lot of his human body significantly limiting the max potential of power in the force. @@ENEMYAC130AB0VE

[@ENEMYAC130AB0VE]

@@ishaanpoddar7654 First off, it makes no sense for Vader not to have killed Kenobi from that, he threw a bunch of boulders at him and he somehow emerged without any injury lol. But that doesn’t bother me, what does is that Vader would’ve have felt Kenobi die within the force, they had a deep connection, so your telling me he didn’t know Kenobi was still alive? Also, your right, Kenobi’s determination was a huge reason he won on Mustafar. But that still doesn’t answer how he became more powerful than he’s ever been in about 10 seconds after being pummeled by rocks. He hasn’t trained or used the force in a decade and is now pulling off these feats against someone much stronger? I love Kenobi, but like c’mon, no matter how determined that shit makes no sense. And like I said, Vader was a better duelist on Mustafar and became even better in the suit, so for Kenobi to outduel him with a form he hasn’t mastered or used in at least a decade of not using his saber is nonsense. Disney basically says, “Yeah so Vader loses because of his emotions again” how original is that? Obi Wan is a GOAT and this show was a disservice to him.

[@shadowsmith1386]

Straight facts

[@bajes328]

Kenobi is still so damn underrated. Everyone keeps talking how Anakin is powerful, but no amount of talent or even training is useful if you have no wisdom or cunning.

[@williamhermann6635]

Yeah Obi Wan was the true embodiment of a Jedi. The finest the galaxy had to offer.

[@KrentXRadar]

@@williamhermann6635 He might be the greatest jedi of all time in the truest sense of being a jedi.

[@williamhermann6635]

@@KrentXRadar Agreed.

[@jetuber]

Is Kenobi underrated or Anakin overrated? Dooku wiped the floor with Obi-Wan.

[@AestheticLetics]

@@jetuberits more like a rock paper scissors typa thing

[@masterben9592]

The Kenobi series delves perfectly into the aftermath of this with Obi Wan riddled with depression and grief, having not only lost his best friend and sole apprentice to evil but also having failed to help Anakin overcome his problems Anakin needed help but the Jedi themselves to paranoid and lost in the rage of the war no one could help or see what Skywalker was going through

[@Joel.Rogers]

I think Anakin actually loved Obi, even though he was conflicted. He even apologized to Obi before he went to face Grievous. So I feel he held back.

[@newhybrid101]

Its confirmed he was trying to cut his head off the entire fight. He was simply weakened and couldnt do it

[@sgtbones1837]

He got his butt kicked by Obi-Wan.

[@thalmoragent9344]

​​@@sgtbones1837 He still gave Kenobi hell

[@JamesJones-mt9co]

He did

[@josephbeckett2330]

Obi or Anaken held back?

[@Pondy33]

You have to think about episode 1 and the clone wars combined. After episode 1, he was the only living jedi to engage a sith in combat. During the clone wars, he fought more sith and/or dark side users than most jedi combined. Sith Lords really are his specialty

[@duncanpatterson5712]

Palpatine’s assessment was 100% correct, and I think this is your best video to date and a perfect explanation. Excellent job my friend.

[@benjaminfinch4499]

Here’s perhaps an even more interesting question: what if Kenobi had finished off Vader after crippling him? Not out of giving in to fear or the dark side or pity, but because he was fulfilling his duty to protect the galaxy by actively eliminating the dark side wherever he found it as was expected of his role as a Jedi Guardian?

[@GayLPer]

I don't think that would've been emotionally possible for Kenobi in that moment, and he didn't exactly have a lot of time to center himself.

[@anthonycraig5918]

@@GayLPerand in the kenobi series what is your reason why not?

[@ccseries]

@@anthonycraig5918 For Kenobi, he was trying to destroy his friend, who had fallen down a dark path. He was trying to prevent his friend from going further down a dark path. Probably had a few ideas towards how he could achieve it. Either way, he had one goal: Prevent further destruction of Anakin while there's still something. He has no interest in Darth Vader. Screw him. His priority was Anakin Skywalker. His friend would answer for what he had done. When Darth Vader slowly tells Kenobi "You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker... _I_ did..." Kenobi instantly realizes that Anakin had been gone a long time ago. At the end of that duel we see Kenobi say, almost to himself "Then my friend is truly dead." As for this monstrosity of a Jedi-Killer who serves the Dark Sith Sidious? Kenobi had no reason to finish him off. There was nothing left to kill.

[@garethwhite8770]

Cause jedi aren't meant to kill/attack and killing a wounded unarmed, pun 😂, man would be killing/murder. Idk the jedi philosophy is a bit non sensical. Which isn't surprising, it is a religion.

[@kostas_ermeidis]

you explain it so good thanks!

[@TheStupendousWave]

Glad it was helpful!

[@komah7909]

I feel like when he force choked Padme he was left even more vulnerable. Considering the fact that he felt betrayed by her. He also would've been maybe a little hesitant to kill his friend/brother Obi-Wan.

[@sovvrong]

Back on my big star wars wave since the new movies. It took me a bit to watch the new shows but since obi Wan show and now ahsoka was super pleased when i watched fett and mandolorian

[@coreystelton6551]

I would actually love a video explaining what the "powers" were that Anakin had access to through the darkside since other than choking and lightning there isn't much on screen that Sith can do that Jedi can't so I am curious since he talks about his new powers what they were that made him so much more powerful.

[@jamespierce8372]

It's a secret

[@darth.dominus.the.savage]

I would also enjoy such a vid too

[@fidelsyrianoudis]

lol immortality force cloaking force drain there is actually a LOT and they are broken asf

[@darth.dominus.the.savage]

@@fidelsyrianoudis none of those were powers he had access to or knew yet so his new powers at the time of him saying he had new powers, nobody can yet be sure of what those powers were yet

[@fullsilverbig95]

Basicly it makes him more " powerfull" it would be like steroids or adrenaline but in the force . So he s faster stronger physicly but also with the force like push carry big things shit like this are buffed to o. And darkside is like a drug the more you use it the more u think u need it and the more deeper u go into the darkside the more powerfull u become ( sidious isnt a liar ) and u can have access to power like force lighting or the scream sidious use against windu and a lot of satanistic sith stuff like sacrifice to become immortal but anakin was a beginner in the darkside so he didnt had that much " new power" against obi wan he was just a little bit stronger but blinded by anger and fear so it actually made him weaker

[@TheJovialBrit]

This is why Kenobi is my favourite Star Wars character.. I'm much the same way. Very tactical and strategic, very witty, always choosing intelligence over anger as my weapon of choice, always fighting defensively and waiting for my enemies to make a mistake, using their anger against them.

[@Historicutuber]

Great video. I agree with this

[@what76485]

I gotta say this is the best explanation for his loss I’ve ever heard.

[@Just_Pele]

It really was like prime George Foreman being defeated by an aging Muhammad Ali. On paper it was almost impossible, no matter how good Ali's defense was (the best in history), because George was too powerful and physically dominated Ali. But Foreman wore himself out, lavishly expended his strength for 7 rounds, while Ali waited for George's arrogance to get the best of him.

[@stt5v2002]

The old "scorch a sith". Classic.

[@dsgdsg9764]

I believe Anakin didn't hate ob1 until he said it at the conclusion of the duel... This makes a difference he hated dooku and he destroyed him

[@dustinherberman3837]

The "I hate you" sounded like when a child says it with all the emotion behind it. Rather than an actual hatred,

[@carsonmalleet4367]

@@dustinherberman3837I think this is spot on, I know the clone wars retconned his character a bit, but Anakins character at least in the movies was supposed to be very childish, he came from being a weak powerless slave to someone who was very powerful, politically, socially, intellectually, and physically, who was used to getting what he wanted. He was very mature as a tactician and warrior but he never really got a childhood or to grow up. This shows in his selfish actions and arrogance, and I think he was a much more well written character than people give him credit for. He’s screaming “i hate you” at Obi Wan because he didn’t get what he wanted and his massive ego was severely damaged. He’s throwing a temper tantrum like a teenager who’s used to getting his way because that’s what he is.

[@dustinherberman3837]

@@carsonmalleet4367 yes, thank you.

[@dsgdsg9764]

With the "i hate you" Anakin was truly enveloped in the darkness by that point. His eyes look scared seeing the shadows consuming him.

[@dustinherberman3837]

@@dsgdsg9764 have you ever had a little kid yell at you that they hate you. Oh they mean it, they mean it with conviction. When a little kid hates you, they hate you. And they have the same look in their eyes that Anakin does. At that very moment all Anakin's anger, frustration, fear, was all directed at Obi-Wan.

[@robertagu5533]

I've ALWAYS wondered.. IF Anakin HAD EVER become THE Attacker of attackers becoming ALSO THE Master of his form the way Kenobi was with his WOULD that have made a difference in this critical fight. An would've Anakin dueled him to a draw OR would there FINALLY been an instance where being ALL DEFENSIVE actually doesn't work. Especially as even Anakin/Vader later on realized that everything Kenobi did Anakin shoulda been either ALSO do OR counter.

[@RetiredTSgtUSAF]

Obi and Anakin did not need to fight at all. The Sith had won, there was no Jedi left, Obi and Yoda could do nothing really against them. They should have just ignored them, unless they got in the way.

[@charliespeegleokliving8595]

Anakin was conflicted emotionally and would stay so until he saved Luke. So, he was doomed to fail against Obi. Obi was a dominant defensive fencer. He won against Maul because he surprised him with a very risky move. One that Maul didn't think he could or would do. Obi was leading Anakin into a trap during the entire combat. He tried to increase the emotions in Anakin to either cause him to break and become good or make a foolish move which would lead to his defeat. Obi didn't kill him and left him for dead because he couldn't kill him or he saw a future where the good in Anakin returned.

[@OMGWTFBBQKITTEN]

If you think about it, the move Anakin tried to use against Obi-wan was the same one used by Obi-wan to defeat Darth Maul. Anakin thought he could beat Obi-wan with his own move, a move that Obi-wan must have told him about when asked how he beat Maul. As a master of defense, Obi-wan wasn’t just going to lose to his own move.

[@charliespeegleokliving8595]

@@OMGWTFBBQKITTEN Yes. "Don't do it, Anakin" Obi knew.

[@ericechols6056]

It's obvious that Anakin/Vader, would not learn to be focused even when Obi-Wan and him had their 2nd fight, Obi moved on, he could commune or contact the netherworld and be one with it, thus when Vader swung his final lightsaber blow, Obi was nowhere to be found only his clothes remained behind, while Vader was perplexed in that moment of Obi's where abouts. Obi-Wan force jumped into the netherworld, becoming a Force Ghost and was not killed by Vader's strike, thus Obi still had the high ground, from a certain point of view!!! 😉👍

[@OldHenryLee]

This is something Sidious should have foreseen. Especially with knowing how much Padme meant to Anakin. .... Think about it. He already had everything in that moment. Vader was his strong hand for the future. ... Risking him in a fight with his former master & brother in arms was just as arrogant as Anakin was in the duel. ... There was no turning back for Vader after slaughtering the younglings. ... And fairly sure Padme was dieing either way. In short, Sidious failed with his decision more than Vader did with losing. ... Can't say that Sidious didn't know how big of a transition it was or that he didn't intimately know Anakin's fragile mindstate. And yes, if Sidious made the correct decision and told Vader to not face Kenobi there's no way Vader would have lost to him. Heck, odds are that he never would have faced him period. Vader would have reached his full potential & wouldn't have been so singularly focused on Kenobi like he ultimately was. The Empire would've been unstoppable.

[@alexandervelasco8095]

Sidious did not order Vader to duel Obi he was sent to Mustafar to handle taking out the separatists from their hiding place.. Obi snuck onto the ship knowing Padme knew where he was and that they would connect soon, catching everyone by surprise. Padme being in shock by Anakin's true motives and being ashamed by realizing she had been deceived to be the problem as to why this mess had started, just completely shook her entire foundation with the betrayal of her lover and her trust in her friends. She was overwhelmed and simply did not want to keep going to face the music. She had given up, and like the droid said completely healthy but lost the will to live. Not even her own children could help her overcome this guilt on herself.

[@Ale12287]

Anakin failed because Obi-Wan was a better duelist

[@inkyplays1858]

I wish Kenobi was the better duelist.

[@albertlamar5938]

8:53 Anakin got a firm hold on Obi Wan's throat, using his cybernetic hand. We saw earlier that hand was string enough to hold multiple adults from falling down an elevator shaft. If Anakin was truly focused on murder, a split second squeeze would have done it.

[@carlosgarza400]

Always the discussion topic this duel is

[@altowatts1325]

Kenobi was always going to defeat Anakin or Vader. Because Obi-Wan was more skilled in The Force than those around him realized. Not saying that Obi-Wan was as powerful as Mace Windu or Yoda. But when he fully focused on The Force, Obi-Wan was not too far below Mace Windu in overall power.

[@lisawatts-co5pt]

Obiwan should have lost. He already lost to Dooku TWICE who Anakin beat.

[@altowatts1325]

@@lisawatts-co5pt True. But in their 2nd fight Dooku realized Obi-Wan had fully mastered Form 3. So much so that Dooku had to eliminate Obi-Wan first. And it's entirely possible that Sidious was using The Force to help Dooku eliminate Obi-Wan from the fight. Had they fought one on one Obi-Wan would've defeated Dooku. At least I think so. And I like your last name 👍🏾

[@andyd306]

​@@lisawatts-co5ptI disagree. I can't remember the name of saber form the Dooku mastered in but it was meant to best against forms like Kenobi's but Anakin trained for years to combat and get revenge on Dooku and like the video said, Kenobi knew Anakin inside and out. That is a far more critical ace to have up your sleeve, than you think. It's called knowledge and wisdom which Kenobi had far more of than Anakin ever had even as Vader which is why Vader never could beat him.

[@mikeyloveshousemusic]

One of the best quotes, of ALL TIME is a result of this battle, seen in Episode 4 "If you strike me down now, I'll become more powerful than you can even imagine"

[@David-xy2ly]

Being a Jedi then Vader he knows light and dark and makes him perfect for the chosen one. All makes sense now

[@mudcult]

I learned a new word today thanks to your video: Deplenish

[@godz4681]

I agree I thought that logically Anakin was stronger when he fought doku. As even though he briefly tap into the power of the dark side at the end of the duel, he still remains on the light side of the force even refusing to kill doku at first. He was simply better at using the light side of the force as he had been training with it his whole life. On Mustafa, Anakin was conflicted and in a state of mental wreck he crying about killing younglings, agrueing with Padme and he was not even fully committed to killing his own master. His appearance rage in the duel was more of him venting his frustration at the event that happens. Anakin got obiwan by the throat at one point during the duel and didn’t crush Obiwan neck with his Mechanical arm, choosing to slowly try make obiwan submit. He was clearly conflicted about killing his master as he was some crying when he was talking to Obiwan on lava river. Anakin could have been turn back to the light side by Obiwan if he had tried harder to convince him and even Obiwan realize this later on. Vader always had too much good in him making weaker in the dark side.

[@dwho3]

its like they make it up going along

[@jessewilliams9627]

I always thought it had something to do with Darth Sidious and Yoda fighting at pretty much the same time so like maybe the dark force has limits when being used so much by one person it weakens it for another, it can't be a coincidence that Kenobi won while Yoda lost and Sidious won while Anakin lost.

[@jetuber]

Good point.

[@gravemind6536]

Sidious vs Yoda was a draw although Yoda I suppose failed with what he set out to do

[@jetuber]

@@gravemind6536 Yes, and for that reason, Yoda effectively lost. Both of them were surprised by the outcome. Yoda began the duel certain that he could take out the chancellor, and even Palpatine seemed initially to think that he would lose (trying to flee, and then saying that whatever happened to him, Vader would be stronger). At the end, it was Yoda who had to flee and definitely did get the worse of their final exchange of energy.

[@jessewilliams9627]

@@gravemind6536 I will admit I'm not that knowledgeable about the lore but there has to be a reason the sith only has 2 people at a time while the Jedi has hundreds of force users. I know sith users have a tendency to turn on their masters so it might be they only train one apprentice at a time in order to protect themselves from getting killed my the apprentices but could also further make my point that the dark side of the force can only handle so much at once. I'm a Yoda fan myself and if you was only counting light saber fighting sure a draw seems fair to both but then Sidious started chucking things at Yoda like it was nothing and all Yoda could do was run so in my opinion Yoda lost that aspect of the fight and he knew he couldn't win that's why he ran and went into hiding.

[@gravemind6536]

@@jessewilliams9627 The ancient sith used to have loads of force users but it was total chaos with people betraying each other all the time and no leadership to gain the Sith any actual power hence the rule of two started with Darth Bane so the Sith could work in a more undercover fashion to take out the Jedi.

[@bogdantirea6085]

What author you use for soundtrack ?

[@darkpromeathean937]

Anyone know what the soundtrack at the beginning is called yet?

[@martinez9643]

I think the major problem the prequels had was they didn't show how powerful Anakin was. he seemed like almost any other jedi

[@chupapimuynano3033]

I wouldn’t say that I see what you mean

[@charger1369]

They didn't show his greater power, but I think mostly, they didn't show the real conflict between Anakin and the Jedi Order to begin with. It's very confusing just watching the movies, the conflict seems entirely based on Anakin's angst, immaturity and attachment. The Clone Wars series really fleshes out the issues that Anakin's conflict was based on. It wasn't justified what he did, but there was more substance to it.

[@Gor85]

This is great analysis! You and Sidious said it perfectly. Obi-Wan was everything Jedi should be. I think if this duel happened few days later Anakin would have won. May the Force be with you too

[@verilyveronica8430]

I would have used a wave a lava right after said I have the high ground. Yes you do master. Goodbye.

[@jetuber]

1) I don't think that Anakin was trying to kill Kenobi but disarm him (literally). Therefore, he lost much for the same reason that Dooku lost to him: Dooku was commanded by Palpatine not to kill Anakin but help turn him, so he couldn't fight to kill to defeat Anakin, thus limiting him of some potential killing blows and giving Anakin an advantage. Likewise, Anakin wanting to disarm not kill Kenobi limited him of some of his most lethal tactics and moves -- moves which he had used against all of his opponents in the Clone Wars. 2) Kenobi (and this is the main reason) tricked Anakin into trying a move (the jump) in the course of which Kenobi knew how he could defeat an opponent (since Kenobi had done the same move before). He wanted Anakin to do the jump, thereby leaving him momentarily defenseless, and so goaded him into trying it by presenting it as an impossible challenge, and he knew that Anakin (from childhood) could never turn down a challenge.

[@jericho5649]

Anakin literally fought the entire Jedi temple with his troopers, fought dozens of masters and other powerful Jedi, killed all of them. Then is sent directly to Mustafar (I don’t imagine he slept in between) and then had to fight the best defensive fighting style of all time master while the weight of everything happening tormenting him. It’s a testament to how powerful he was that he was still fighting on equal footing with Obi-wan after all of that

[@jasonleetaiwan]

He was tired?

[@jericho5649]

@@jasonleetaiwan brother, he put down the entire Jedi Temple with the 501rst. I know the clone troopers put it work, but Anakin had to take down at least a dozen masters let alone all the other Jedi.

[@ag_gutta7573]

@@jericho5649Anakin didn’t fight masters in the temple. The only masters present were Shaak ti and Cin Drallig. Other wise the rest were low level jedi knights and padawons that Anakin walked through with ease. None of the high tier council members were present as they were either away on a different planet or killed by Sidious. If some of the council members were present at the temple it could’ve definitely had a fighting chance for some to escape

[@jericho5649]

@@ag_gutta7573 Cin Drallig was one of the most powerful Masters (battle master of the temple) and Anakin killed him shortly after killing his apprentices. It’s an outright downplay to say what he did in the temple wasn’t something that required immense energy and power from Anakin

[@ag_gutta7573]

@@jericho5649 Im not downplaying Cin Dralling but hes not on the same level as the council members were. Anakin would’ve definitely had a hard time if council members such as Ki adi mundi and Plo koon were at the temple during order 66. If Yoda and Obi wan were there order 66 may have no even succeeded

[@JamesJones-mt9co]

Very accurate

[@matthewdunham1689]

Experience triumphs over talent more often than not.

[@player866]

To answer your question at the end of the video, nothing. Nothing would have happened if he got a few more days to "Train". We know from the show Kenobi that he again lost to Obi wan many years later. He clearly could not dispose of his own arrogance in that time I do not think he would have in just a few more days.

[@DaveBailey18]

He lost because of one reason. The only reason why Akakin went for dueling Obi-Wan begin with was he saw his failures as a Jedi and a Husband was Obi-Wan's fault. It's what Akakin said in Episode II to Padme after his mom died. After losing his mom, then having problems in his marriage with Padme and seeing Obi-Wan went to Mustafar to take her away from him. He then saw he nothing left to lose. He could had stopped himself when Obi-Wan told him "don't try it! I have the high ground" but Akakin had only one thing on his mind. That was to kill Obi-Wan Kenobi but instead Akakin killed himself and officially became Darth Vader!

[@Rangnathebloodedge]

Aitkin relied on his anger that's why he lost

[@onaruvelasquez9960]

For your question at the end I would argue that Anikin would still fall before obi won after what we seen in the new kenobi series

[@agent95_]

Damn, I honestly never looked at it like that. I kind of thought that Obi-Wan was fighting with some emotion but now putting it in perspective, it’s very obvious that he did not falter at all. In his intention to end Vader right then and there I mean my goodness now, when I really think about it, he was the epitome of what a Jedi truly should have been like honestly I think now looking at that fight alone, that is what every Jedi should aspire to be he arrived with a simple, single focused intent on stopping evil right then and there utilizing what could honestly be the best form for a Jedi to master mix to vapad. And with that said, in my humble, honest opinion, I think if a Jedi could master both style three and the pad, they would be purely unstoppable, and can consider themselves a true weapon of the force, and not necessarily a weapon, but a bean who is used by the force.

[@kingshadow8782]

I'm here to enjoy watching this Video.

[@Saimeren]

It's because Hayden hated walking up hill to get dinner every night.

[@brokenbridge6316]

I think this was a very curious way to look at the Mustafar duel

[@luminatrixfanfiction]

I think people are thinking too much into it. Obi Wan is not very strong with the force, but he is one of the greatest duelist of the current generation not far behind Yoda. Add to the fact he was using the saber form that focus on defense, and you get the perfect recipe for someone fighting on a 1v1 to come out on top. It wasn't really arrogance or conflict that caused Anakin to lose. It was simply that Obi Wan was a better duelist.

[@fidelsyrianoudis]

But he wasn’t the better duelist. First obi wan wasn’t the second best duelist if we are being honest he wasn’t even third or fourth Yoda was better Sidious was better Dooku was better overall Anakin was better overall and debatably Windu was better

[@2Times22]

You could see that Anakins talent and skills were way more than ObiWans..He could overcome and defeat Obi Wan, because not only he was stronger in the force, but also his saber skills were better..Theres only one thing that hindered him and he lost..That was his inexperience of controlling his emotions..He couldnt contain his emotions,he was totally off,sheer anger nothing else..Imagine if he was a little more experienced on that field,if he managed to discipline his anger better..Well he had all the potential in the world,more than any other but his emotions made him weak..Too emotional..Thats never good..!!!

[@luminatrixfanfiction]

@@2Times22 Uh no. What made Anakin a force to reckon was his raw power and high aptitude for the Force. ObiWan is far and away light years ahead of Anakin when it comes to saber skills. ObiWan is considered one of the best duelists among the present generation of Jedi, with the exception of Yoda. And for a good reason, because what ObiWan lacked in raw power with low aptitude for the Force, he more than made up for it with sheer light saber skills. He has no equal when it comes to his personal lightsaber Form III, also known as Soresu form. It's the reason why despite Anakin's raw power, he wasn't able to overpower ObiWan instantly in their duel on Mustafa. Soresu's defensive nature leaves no wasted energy, and no openings, which meant that in a war of attrition, Anakin was losing because despite his raw power, he was losing stamina and ultimately what led to him losing the duel. That famous line "I have the higher ground Anakin" isn't just a meme, it has significance. ObiWan knew that Anakin was fatigued and wouldn't make the jump successfully. ObiWan's saber skills far outclasses Anakin's.

[@morganlafey6791]

Now THAT'S what I call INSIGHT!

[@UroboricNate]

Lol, lets be real, he lost because he has to become Darth Vader, had to happen for the story.

[@kaotic300]

kenobi: it's over anakin! i have the high-ground! anakin: (uses the force to pull kenobi into the lava)

[@venkelos6996]

For me, I think it would have mattered a little more what all happened in those few days. Not to beat a dead horse, buy I really feel that Vader suffered against an almost purely defensive Kenobi, but it was more than just Soresu; Obi-Wan was defended in his goals, his intent, and his emotions. Despite being "weaker", which I'd still argue, he also knew he only needed one strike; he was that good on the offensive, too,and he could, for the most part, afford to wait for it. Everything, though, was riding on it, for Vader. He had toppled the Jedi, and there was now no going back. If Padme had still shown up with Kenobi, he'd still have the worries about her, and the baby, on his mind; another thing to lose. If he failed, he wouldn't live up to the Chosen One; Sidious might even cast him aside, or kill him. He could have meditated; honed his dark talent, but I still think enough doubt, and worries of proving himself less than he thought he was; less than he needed to be, would have overcome his skill, and given Kenobi the victory, until Kenobi failed at the end, and let the Force decide. And that's what eventually brought the Emperor down, so I'm not saying it was wrong, but it did open the door to a lot of suffering, even if Vader did eventually kill Palpatine...for a time.

[@sethgamble2799]

You’re the best!

[@allanhunt823]

Anakin seemed to loose every fight to Obi. He lost when he was Vader without any injuries , he lost to obi as Vader with plenty of time to adjust and then he lost again on the first Death Star when obi simply cheated him of his victory by moving into the living force. Obi arguably the best of Jedi of all time when you think just how many Vader killed . I just hope we see more of obi on screen .

[@martingundinromero2150]

master yoda perfet

[@NottherealLucifer]

*lose

[@inkyplays1858]

Even though Vader finally defeated Obi Wan on the Death Star he did lose in Revenge of the Sith and Kenobi mainly do to his emotions because he couldn’t control them, which was his greatest weakness.

[@allanhunt823]

@@inkyplays1858 I guess my point being is Vader didn’t win on the death star he simply engaged Vader long enough to allow Luke to escape and once he new that was done he allowed himself to move into the living force . Vader never killed him and in-fact Vader was so confused by this he stood there looking at the pile of cloths left be-hide not understanding what just happened so he never beat him in any live action show or movie . Even if Vader did some how engage obi many times between revenge of the sith and a new hope we know he never ever beat him given he was alive right up until that point.

[@AlwaysLoaded]

I agree. Obi wan is the greatest Jedi figure of all of Star Wars hands down

[@10000Winters]

I always just took it as the classic Pokémon type bad match up. All out attack against patient defense. In a a drawn out fight, that patience would eventually win out.

[@heisenberg73215]

He will do what he must

[@arnaudbouret5562]

A few more days of training changes something that can be incredibly disruptive: barring an assassination, Anakin's children are born before the fight, and Padme lives.

[@lisawatts-co5pt]

At least a logical reason Anakin lost. Anakin was at least Obiwan’s equal at this point shown by the fact Dooku had defeated Obiwan twice while Anakin appears to be holding his own before giving in to his anger. On a side note did Anakin really betray Mace? Would it be considered a betrayal if a cop was going to execute a perpetrator and his partner shot him in the leg or hand to prevent this from happening? That is essentially what happened Anakin even protesting that it wasn’t the Jedi way and that he must stand trial. Skywalker didn’t “ go for the head” just disarmed or in this case dehanded him. Everything after this point doesn’t matter this was when the die was cast. That said Windu was right Palpatine was too dangerous to live.

[@209Richsta]

Another thing to note is Obi Wan got stronger between episode 2 and 3 just like Anakin did. Also Obi Wan could was around Dookus level of lightsaber combat by episode 3. Dooku was still superior in the force though compared to Obi Wan. Which he demonstrates when he caught him in the force choke

[@eclipsei98]

The idea of conflict hits the nail on the head. Especially how detrimental it can be. I think back to the clone wars where maul taunted obi wan about qui gons death and he actually tapped into the dark a bit and maul was embarrassing him. He even told him he couldn't win so off balance and it wasn't until obi wan listened that he began to regain ground in the fight.

[@anchorsaweigh9893]

Obi Wan is probably the most underrated Jedi in the SW Universe. The video is pretty spot on about the Mustafar duel. Although the Kenobi Series wasn’t the best…the duel between Vader and Obi Wan was beautiful. Obi Wan did harness emotion and got more aggressive and beat Vader. By the time we see him duel Maul in rebels Maul had no chance as he was facing a Jedi Master. Man who mastered the Force, the Light Saber and Master Tactician. Very Musashi like. (Book of Five Rings)

[@DARTHDANSAN]

Great stuff . If Vader had used the force to try and snap Obi wan neck like he did to they little kid I the konbi series

[@DarkEinherjar]

Considering that Vader still lost to Obi-Wan years later when they had their rematch, I'd say that no, a few days of training wouldn't have changed that outcome.

[@audience2]

Obi-Wan Kenobi is the Jedi Master brought onto the field when a highest stakes task requiring a major level up is needed.

[@jasonleetaiwan]

Because Kenobi is more strategic. He recognized the opportunity to jump on to the high ground.

[@petergill3452]

The answer to your question on whether darth Vader would have won if he had a few more days of training is no. The evidence for this is in the duel between Vader and Kenobi in the Disney series, Kenobi. It was evident in that duel that Vader remained conflicted based on Darth Sidius assessment of that dual. This permitted Kenobi, who seemingly was out practice for 10 years, to defeat Vader again. As you noted, the dual on Mustafar showed Kenobi's focus and determination as a jedi. I believe that even if Anikan had a few days to train with the dark side of the force following order 66, he would have remained conflicted because of the fact that he continued to be conflicted years later. Or, at least, he was conflicted when he met up again with Kenobi. His inner conflict, once again, gave Kenobi the advantage. Do others agree? Thanks for the video. Great analysis!

[@Hoody_Squanchy420]

It’s also the longest swordfight in cinematic history.

[@InfiniteNaos]

If Anakin had mastered Serisu on top of keeping his focus strong then he could’ve became the next Darth Bane in terms of physical combat. He’s already physically strong on top of using Form V to become like an unstoppable movement as he pushed forward. Only if he kept focused on top of using his anger to fight then his swordsmanship would’ve been nearly unbeatable without needing the life suit. The history of the Known Galaxy would’ve been changed drastically. Perhaps Darth Sidious’s statement would’ve been correct had Anakin not lost his cool while fighting ObiWan “Darth Vader will become more powerful than either of us!” Which would’ve been true if his full potential would’ve been reached either in Light, Dark, or in the middle!

[@tanklergaming103]

Obiwan knows Anakins style better than anyone else.

[@wretchedabyss1394]

It's simple, Anakin didn't want to kill his best friend and the reason he challenged Obi Wan's position is that he believed Obi Wan felt the same and would show him mercy but he didn't. That is why their battle was so long and why it ended the way it did. And why Obi Wan was haunted by what he did. Obi Wan taking the high ground meant he won the battle, but striking his friend down meant he lost the war. It meant he lost Anakin to the Dark side.

[@Youtubesucks565]

I would assume Vader would have needed to go through the transition process before accepting the full dark side, unless he was trained by mace windu to accept both the dark and the light to find balance, I would have to always assume Anakin as a whole when confronted by Konobe would bring back memories that couldn’t be overcome! The first meeting, Qui gon Jinn , padme and all the missions would bring Anakin back! It’s vaders loss and what he lost to konobe that kept his hate fueled !

[@Skarbr0]

“One final stand for peace”, while trying to murder his former padawan. 😎

[@dirt_ripper8734]

Anakin had also recently eaten at Taco Bell and was crippled by severe gas pains .

[@HistoryPoliticsFiction]

I believe it would have made a major difference not only in his focus but fighting style.

[@djaspurh]

High Ground!

[@MrKevin486]

Because Sand is just small rocks and lava is hot liquid rocks, therefore Mustafar is basically a giant planet filled with hot liquid sand: Anakin's main fear and weakness. 🫡

[@ainsleyramai8311]

In the Revenge of the Sith movie, Darth Sidious tells Master Yoda "Your arrogance blinds you" and Darth Vader speaks with much arrogance in that duel with Master Obi-Wan... down to the last moment.

[@Sharperthany0u]

High ground. That’s it. That’s the answer

[@omega1845]

It is the longest and best dual in Star Wars

[@an-animal-lover]

Is this a reupload. I could have sworn you answered this question before, in a video with the exact same thumbnail

[@nethercords]

"i can feel the good in you, THE CONFLICT!, THERE IS NO CONFLICT" even at the end of the saga vader is blinded by his need to win. even after getting his limb torn a second time, he is still gripped by the darkside, he came to realise the the truth when the one good thing in his life was about to be snuffed out, he turned on the emperor just as he had turned on obi wan, the same vice of greed ultimately became a virtue of selflessness in this singular act.

[@tituslee2153]

That’s all fine and good, but then how do we explain the Kenobi series fight?

[@daveyboy728]

“Unassuming Jedi Master” is a paradoxical statement

[@SHARKVADERS]

THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS

[@Xyma-YT]

2:40 - Dooku was older than Obi Wan and used the Dark Side ; those are the differences between Dooku & Obi Wan!

[@TotalTech2.]

One of the reasons why Anakin was weak on Mustafar is because of Padame *When* Anakin was killing the separatist he was at his absolute peak of power as he hated the Separatist and enjoyed killing them and you can tell because his eyes turned Yellow. However once the deed was done and the adrenaline wore off Anakin had to think about all of the horrible things he had done. He even started to cry. After that he saw Padame whom he loved so he was no longer in a state of pure darkness. He was highly conflicted. If Anakin had fought Obi Wan with the same mindset a as he did the Separatist he would have slaughtered him but it's because of his conflicting emotions that he lost.

[@2bepower1]

head canon

[@theyoutubeacolyte969]

It’s quite simple, it was arrogance

[@jlomesou]

A few more days, even months of training wouldn't have changed a thing. He'd been a soldier in a war for years. He was at his peak, so was Obi-Wan. Focus on the objective was the key. Who was more committed to getting the job done, that's what the duel on Mustafar was about.

[@dSlayer6160]

Obi-Wan literally said "I'll do what I must". The fact that he gave up on his apprentice so eagerly and so readily persuaded himself to kill Anakin, could perhaps be explained by Obi-Wan never having believed in Anakin in the first place, unlike Qui-Gon.

[@poetsfire1]

Anakin had a massive midichlorian count and was considered twice as powerful as Palpatine. However, after his duel with Kenobi and the loss of his limbs, his midichlorian count and therefore connection with the Force was reduced. So, was the stronger Force-essence of Anakin imprisoned inside of the weaker Vader and actually battling for dominance the whole time? It would be amazing to see a world-between-world lightsaber duel for dominance between Anakin and Vader!

[@death2beta843]

Underrated comment ❤

[@mlucasGrindstone]

Any guess as to the air temperature?

[@thalmoragent9344]

Pretty sure it's now common knowledge that he was conflicted with all that had happened. A weakened mental state is what caused Anakin's downfall in the end.