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[@MALØR.34]

We should remember that Nintendo once said, "There are no copyrights in games," then tried suing most of the other gaming companies that they've copied.

[@Main-f9t]

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[@yuyaricachimuel555]

Nintendo probably thinks their new games have Neuralyzers in them.

[@Sniper-0475]

​@@yuyaricachimuel555I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually did

[@anonisnoone6125]

Yh it's fucking pathetic and scummy. Y is this company so adamant on everyone being so fucking miserable?

[@Monio.]

You joined 2 fucking weeks ago and now you are suddenly commenting everywhere. Fucking fur*y gonan comment bot spam everywhere 😂

[@zick9891]

Nintendo after discovering that there is a fruit called Peach:

[@umuppp-e7n]

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[@DanielSanchez-e6p]

Good one bro

[@swoozy_zwoozy5709]

Who are they gonna sue? Mother nature?

[@jjo6677]

@@swoozy_zwoozy5709 yes

[@JonathanJordAn-sk4yd]

@@swoozy_zwoozy5709 if they could they would at this point.

[@argustiny.972]

Nintendo suing Palworld half a year after it became irrelevant is the most Nintendo thing ever

[@Main-f9t]

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[@animeboy200p2]

They probably just mad maybe cuz it got more attention then the recent pokemon games

[@xavierculby]

They still have plenty of players, what are you talking about

[@IsaacMortensen]

palworld still had over 23000 active players when i looked like a week ago on steam, doesn't sound dead or irrelevant to me tbh

[@axt2]

@@IsaacMortensen i bet this causes a big spike in sales. Streissand effect in full display

[@kenpachikenpo2697]

Stealing loading screen mini games from us deserves jail time

[@KamiLeVrai]

Fifa was doing mini games during loading time while the Bandai Namco patent was still active

[@dd-sea4602]

Only game I can remember that did this was bayonetta

[@Selloca]

​@@dd-sea4602ps2 dragon ball games did it too

[@verakoo6187]

The patent for that expired in 2015, Devs didn't want to use them anyways. Players want loading screens to be as fast as possible, and u don't want to make a player to be bummed out if they can't finish a minigame because their game loaded.

[@CheetahStarBlaze]

@@dd-sea4602 Splatoon did it, too

[@TheFewAndOnly]

Patenting a game mechanic feels like patenting a musical note. It's pointlessly powerful for no good reason.

[@pluslotl1388]

ehhh it’s more like patenting a chord progression

[@slinkster9815]

@@pluslotl1388 still in some cases that doesn't hold in court, sure i can see it in this case and all that's left is if the court agrees

[@Iffondrel]

I'm curious about the patent infringement, because patents work a bit different in Japan's gaming spaces. They have like a code of trust, where different companies will patent anything and everything expecting others to use them, but won't pursue legal action because they want these things to be used, not monopolized. It was a big deal when a gaming app tried to sue Nintendo for its ds touch screen controls.

[@Speaker2400-m5i]

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[@JohnMarston-lo5qk]

hat statement just goes to show how retar ded you are

[@yeahmanitsmurph]

This just in: Nintendo sues baseball for throwing balls on a field and tracking stats

[@umuppp-e7n]

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[@PlayerProbably]

@@umuppp-e7nnice movie clip

[@Splinnee]

I patented breathing, stop that right now.

[@unnamed7485]

​@@umuppp-e7n Nobody cares

[@Quackra]

​@@Splinneesorry, but I patented lungs before you

[@Shadowsphere1]

_Paco Gutierrez, age 9, always wanted a Nintendo console. However, due to being extremely poor living in Venezuela, it was just a distant dream. Using his creativity and with the help from his uncle, he made a cardboard Super Mario game, posted it on KZbin and the video went viral. Thanks to the video, Nintendo's CEO Doug Bowser personally traveled to Venezuela, to give Paco a Cease and Desist order and sue his family for 200 million dollars._

[@Matrixorial]

lmao

[@unusedmonkey4435]

Lol

[@shirghazaycowboys]

Funny, but it’s a copy pasta. If anyone is curious

[@woollywarrior]

barbToxic

[@malucart]

They're so kind to visit him personally with a gift 😊

[@Jerrremy]

Fun fact: biopharmaceutical companies can patent parts of the human genome. You cannot run experiments on parts of the human genome unless you get permission of that genes patent holder. Absolutely fucked

[@Rashed1255]

So a company somewhere owns the blueprints of me?

[@iglidor]

@@Rashed1255 Does that mean that I can demand refund for all the fucked up shit that is going on with my body?

[@Rashed1255]

@@iglidor if ur older than 1 then no, warranty is up.

[@fofish5392]

Close but no you can't patent parts of the human genome, only DNA sequences that aren't in nature can be patented. For example, the glow in the dark animals scientists made.

[@TeveshSzat89]

That's fucking bullshit.

[@TrueUnderDawgGaming]

Disney vs Nintendo in a “How petty can we be” competition

[@Main-f9t]

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[@Cosmicninja747]

Ayo, it's the MK dawg

[@ultraexcalibur1728]

I don't know man... Nintendo is pretty petty but Disney is just on a whole other level of evil... EDIT: I just found out about the patenting deal and what Nintendo is actually trying to accomplish here. This is actually WAY more destructive than I initially believed and that Nintendo and Disney may not actually be allowed that far off from each other after this. Please do some research on this topic because what Nintendo is doing is potentially killing the gaming industry as well as any future indie developers that want to make video games outside of big corporations. This may very well end the hopes and dreams of all potential future game designers, myself included. Please, I beg of you all to do more research on this topic. It can't be understated just how truly horrible what Nintendo is doing here is.

[@AllThingsEntertaining]

You know, I'd still go with Disney. I don't recall in recent memory Nintendo suing the families of dead people, and claiming that someone can't sue them because they used a trial subscription for Disney+.

[@minibabyhands8977]

not too comparable...

[@agoosecalledxaro6679]

Nintendo for some f*cking reason: We would rather spend millions on legal fees against our competitors than make a better game

[@Hakokoro]

Well nintendo doesnt make the Pokemon games, GameFreak does.

[@umuppp-e7n]

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[@adomomcjinkies4787]

Gamefreak cares more about anything but making better games

[@zzskyninjazz1821]

Still not Nintendo who make it chief

[@husariuspl117]

throwing money wouldn't help, the games lack polish due to lack of time for the Gamefreak devs (also Gamefreak makes those games, not Nintendo), throwing money won't exactly do anything other then maybe make the games look slightly nicer

[@LivingFire_BurningFlame]

Nintendo's next patent "button inputs that cause player character to take actions".

[@Main-f9t]

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[@Finalizor]

I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if they were that egotistical

[@acamera367]

Uh about that. They patented the D pad. That's why every other D pad isn't connected

[@ssj10tails]

@@acamera367 didnt it expire in 2005?

[@Finalizor]

@@acamera367 Tell that to my wired Xbox Controller for my PC That has it

[@MoonWielder]

I just patented breathing. Please refrain from inhaling until you speak to my attorney.

[@Gamer-wd3sj]

Just took one breath

[@Skapologist]

Don’t hold your breath pal

[@petrri323]

Is it cool if I breathe long enough to talk to them tho?

[@LightningCayo]

Suing over “throwing an item to catch a monster while out in a field” is wild. I hope Palworld wins.

[@MDGOLD]

I see what you did there lmao

[@irecordwithaphone1856]

​@@MDGOLDI see it too but then again I'm high right now

[@cmasterson]

@@MDGOLDlmao I caught that too. See what I did there lmao 🤣

[@MDGOLD]

@@cmasterson you know it I "caught" a glimpse of it lmao

[@fatherlyfigure2718]

@@MDGOLDhuh

[@ssj4922]

Ever since Nintendo tried to patent Tears of the Kingdom's ultra hand mechanics, this lawsuit shouldn't be that much of a surprise to anyone, but it's still a shame to see how low a company could get just to prevent a potential competitor (One that's not even worth a fraction of their total net worth) become any larger because their own product in Pokémon is so lacking in many areas nowadays. Nintendo trying to Sue Palworld, not because of their designs through a copyright infringement, but over a patent of their game mechanics is absolutely abhorrent and if they win, it could start the doom of the industry and games as a form of interpret creation itself. The idea that a corporation could take a mere idea or concept of a mechanic and patent it so that only they could profit and use it in their games is so inherently greedy and cruel to the creation of art itself that I can't even fathom how someone could even justify this. Although given this is Nintendo, I don't think we should be shocked that they could stoop this low.

[@Main-f9t]

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[@shadyfoxofficial]

Fun? Thats illegal!

[@susano.o]

i get the feeling its the gamefreak ppl who asking nintendo to do the patent stuff since pokemon games getting lazier lately

[@xsleet2839]

I’m sorry but Palword is not bigger than Nintendo and it would never be

[@Tambaloslos421-c2x]

don't forget they didn't file said patent until march of this year, AFTER Palworld was released.

[@FalloutUrMum]

Patenting game mechanics is like a musician patenting a chord or a time signature

[@sunhammer420]

wow a comment without bot replies

[@VanillaSunrise]

Tell WB studios that about nemesis too

[@umuppp-e7n]

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[@sunhammer420]

ffs

[@phoenixfire9176]

@@sunhammer420you jinxed it

[@Eins3467]

Pirating Nintendo games is not only right it's morally acceptable too.

[@thatoneoni]

i mean its not but fuck them

[@smithynoir9980]

Anyone that does deserves praise and thanks! Truly good, thinking people :)

[@omarabdul2864]

Hahah I'm not going to say anything 🙃 otherwise I'll see Mario and Luigi on my doorstep

[@dankmemez7176]

patents for game design is one of the dumbest things i’ve ever had the displeasure of learning about. honestly it shouldn’t even be a thing that you can do, imagine if we started doing that from the beginning. “oh, your game features controls that let you MOVE your character? sorry bud you can’t do that, pong did it first and they have the patent”

[@whoopingmuffin9700]

Nintendo actually sued a company for this in Japan and got 30 million although they wanted 90mil Its a patent on a mobile joystick. I'm not joking. You can look it up "Nintendo lawsuit 30 million)

[@oakleyves]

patents actually were the way that gaming companies kept competitors down back in the day

[@generaldane]

@@whoopingmuffin9700 That company filed a similar patent and was trying to get every other mobile devs to pay to use it, Nintendo pretty shut that shit down by suing them, Nintendo and pretty much every other videogame company have a shitload of patents that they just never enforced to protect themselves from patent trolls outside of the industry if Nintendo didn't have that touch screen analog patent that company they sued would have screwed over every other mobile developers, so Nintendo was very much in the right there. Notice how despite winning that case Nintendo haven't gone after any other company using said touch screen joystick design?

[@abloogywoogywoo]

RPGs: exist Nintendo: that's clearly infringement on the Legend of Zelda

[@TheaArtsFox]

I wish someone had patented lootboxes and Season passes instead... that is gaming cancer, at least when are forced in games that clearly need none of that, like single player campaign games.

[@PlayerOne.StartGame]

Nintendo the kind of company to burn down a hospital if they saw a Mario painting in a children's ward.

[@Main-f9t]

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[@maritoxico9982]

Nah, thats Disney

[@jamessunne9131]

@@maritoxico9982 both

[@TheElusiveReality]

@@maritoxico9982 if nintendo and disney ever combined forces the world might end

[@SealFormulaMaster]

No, Nintendo would never do that! They'd sue the kids first, THEN burn the hospital down.

[@GinaRosaline]

Look up Nintendo's lawsuit against White Cat Project and you'll see just how PETTY their legal team can be.

[@salunlistedvideos]

727?

[@retrofizz727]

@@salunlistedvideos 🖥👈😱

[@masterrdf418]

Just looked that one up and apparently it’s a legit lawsuit cause the company that made White Cat Project tried actually claiming some of the patents that Nintendo owned apparently

[@danielhanna19]

Holy shit you weren't lying

[@doinkson]

​@@salunlistedvideosget out of my head

[@Kurogane3]

So basically, they are not going for the obvious "looks similar" but rather "plays similar". Which is funny because Palworlds main appeal (why people stayed) is that it was different from the dusty Pokemon formula... like wtf

[@Speaker2400-m5i]

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[@JACpotatos]

Because both games just use altered animals.... I'd argue palworld is more original, because plenty of Pokemon are literally just normal animals or objects.

[@Shadowsphere1]

Closer to "plays specifically similar." It's still a generalized idea, but just specific enough for the patent to be approved and give them legal standing on it.

[@RJS2003]

​@@JACpotatos Palworld definitely has a lot of great designs alongside the bootleg ones but as a whole I definitely wouldn't call it more original. Most or even any pokémon design still wipes the floor with anything in Palworld in terms of depth.

[@agsdedluxferre2955]

What's funnier is following the Japan take on it, they are celebrating and want Palworld to lose meanwhile the west is siding with Palworld it doesn't boad well for pocketpair since this is Japanese court but it highly shows the differences in how we view these companies and shines a big light on why nintendo gets away with as much as they do since their homeland adamantly supports this behavior.

[@BaldskiTheIII]

Nintendo would amputate a guy's arm if he had a Mario tattoo on him

[@Praying_Light_Force]

Not Really, They'd Just Have To Cut Off The Skin.

[@dabbingraccoons6416]

And put him in debt for the rest of his life.

[@navyspark]

​@@Praying_Light_Force You dare to underestimate their power?

[@Praying_Light_Force]

@@navyspark Wouldn't That Guy Become A Killer If They Amputate The Guy's Arm? Nothing Left To Lose? Be Careful!

[@kashrager3888]

I have a Mario tattoo I got for my son…. Should I be concerned😂.

[@TurboLight]

Remember, this is the same company that patented the D-Pad in 1985. To avoid infringing on the patent, companies like Sony, Sega, and others had to come up with alternative designs for their controllers. Sony, for instance, avoided the classic cross-shaped D-Pad by breaking it into four separate directional buttons on the PlayStation controller. Sega Master System in the mid-1980s had its D-Pad a flat disc with raised edges to indicate the four cardinal directions, but the disc could also tilt slightly to provide diagonal input. The original Xbox controller, released in 2001, featured a D-Pad with a circular design instead. The patent eventually expired in 2005, but Sony kept the design.

[@Main-f9t]

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[@MrLuigiF4n]

Bro's a edge Lord how sad​@@Main-f9t

[@RabenmundK]

​@@MrLuigiF4n na, just a bot doing bot things.. you'll find him under every vomment..

[@ginger_toggaf]

Good thing placing controls away from a console was done before nintendo invented Patent Trolling (R) Nintendo 1984.

[@mrowlsss]

So, patents expire after 30 years?

[@Jonathan_Collins]

Nintendo actually created the patents months after Palworld released. They literally made a patent where you throw something at someone and something happens. Nintendo patented basic game mechanics after Palworld's release and are now suing them for that.

[@officialtoddhoward69]

That doesn't sound, yk, legal

[@Main-f9t]

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[@rangerleaf1505]

Considering Xbox last I checked only exclusivity rates they are absolutely going to get involved​@@officialtoddhoward69

[@ganjaman59650]

@@officialtoddhoward69 Laws are for peasants dont you know?

[@Mightydoggo]

@@officialtoddhoward69 Probably depends on the law overthere, it´s definitely illegal in my country, that´s for sure.

[@frankmckenneth9254]

Basically Nintendo is patent trolling, they're not aiming to defend a copyright here, but rather to fuck with palworld devs by forcing them to settle & pay royalties for their batshit generic patents.

[@abloogywoogywoo]

They're salty it's a success and Pocket Pair had a triumphant underdog story. They only care about the money. Maybe if they're weren't so ******* lazy about Pokemon, there wouldn't have been any thunder for an indie studio to steal.

[@mutantraze3681]

They can also just force them out of business by making a long drawn out legal case and make them waste money on legal expenses. Its one of the many shitty things corporations can do

[@mattmaas5790]

There's nothing troll-y about protecting Pokemon. Pokemon and associated concepts like pokeball are very valuable ideas that they came up with.

[@Skenjin]

​@@mattmaas5790I can almost guarantee they stole that from someone.

[@ItsPundore]

​@@mattmaas5790except they didn't.. concepts like monster catching was around for 20 years before Pokemon showed up

[@Swagkia_Kuchiki]

You wanna know the worst part of all this? Thousands of Nintendo/Pokemon fanatics were messaging Nintendo to sue Palworld. These people just as toxic.

[@Stellar-Jay]

I mean, if people didn't tout Palworld as "Pokemon with guns" and "THE Pokemon killer" then I feel like Palworld would've flown under the radar for most Pokemon fans.

[@zhuran2686]

It makes me embarrassed as an Nintendo Fan.

[@evilkamatis542]

They are probably the same people saying that Scarlet and Violet is a great game.

[@jblen]

​@@Stellar-Jay but people called it 'pokemon with guns' and 'the Pokémon killer' because it was so obviously copying a lot of Pokémon... It never would've flown under the radar unless the game never got popular at all

[@SolitaryLark]

@@jblenno because it was so obviously a better Pokémon. Things are called souls of such and such all the time this is not because they copied but because it has SOME similarities.

[@ModelAaliyahAustin-e7q]

The unfortunate loops gonna be like: Nintendo being arse -> fans angry and promise that won't play games from them anymore -> Nintendo releases trailers from their games -> people somehow forget and forgive about the past

[@DemBigOlEyes]

New Zelda game coming up. You bet your ninnies that the public will still buy it, because the franchise is beloved and the game will likely be good, disregarding all of Nintendo's scummy business practices.

[@Istarelle112]

Bingo, companies know gamers have no self control or principles. Gamers only know how to complain and consume, easy money proven time after time. Sims 4, Cod, Fifa etc.

[@th1v5]

is this community so dumb a bot got 124 likes in 6 minutes

[@TheMysticalFox]

Normies don't care. They don't follow this stuff. You can't depend on large fanbases to vote with their wallet. If you could Scarlet and Violet would have been properly boycotted.

[@TheRealSuperKirby]

Nintendo have literally stalked people and shown up to their houses and fans still don't care

[@VeProducctions]

Imagine where modern gaming would be if Doom had patented "Shooting aliens from a first person perspective"

[@cvl-777]

I mean…you comment makes no sense…

[@Alfred-Neuman]

@@cvl-777 Why? How is this so different than Nintendo's patent for a videogame mechanic about capturing creatures with a spherical object?

[@VeProducctions]

@@cvl-777 It does, you just don't understand English

[@EmperoroftheVoid]

but there are no aliens in doom. have u played the game?

[@OtakuWrath]

Imagine turn based battles that result in exp gain got patented. If the Nemesis system can be patent someone could have easily patented EXP gain as a whole. Or maybe if someone patented collecting hidden collectables that are hidden across the play area of the game. Patent for an inventory system where you can sort items. Patent for defeating enemies to earn currency, Patent for putting computer chips together to make a small circuit board, Nintendo done before they even got started no more cartridge based video games. Patent for anti piracy measures like a check at the boot of a game that detects whether the game is legit or if it's copied. Patent for using certain button combinations to trigger secret effects(cheat codes). Patent for almost everything in Starcraft/Warcraft, Say goodbye to any and all RTS innovations. What if they patented the side view camera angle for fighting games. No street fighter which means no fighting game innovations, the fighting game genre is now gone and we never knew about it because it was patented. How many amazing innovative games have we lost because of patent system abuse? We'll never know because they were never allowed to exist.

[@CrypticKnight10]

Nintendo lawyers causally be talking down every fangame so seeing how they in a full blown court session means they really fucked up

[@Main-f9t]

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[@animeboy200p2]

Exactly I don't get what they're issue bruh

[@BoshyG]

So youve never been on steam? There shit tons of fan games that have been going for over 4-5 years.

[@GadnukBoW]

Fan games don't typically make hundreds of millions of dollars that nintendo can take a piece of.

[@Isiahj-u7w]

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[@ech9817]

Palworld has not hurt Pokemon at all. Not in sales, not in lost fans, not in anything. Not in anything at all. People defending Nintendo need to realize that. *Nothing has been taken away from them since Palworld's release whatsoever.* But Nintendo is about to take *everything* away from Palworld fans, and nobody can do anything about it. The least you can do is stop licking their boots and realize that the only one doing harm here is Nintendo.

[@WillAschman-rn9fj]

Nintendo being Nintendo

[@Main-f9t]

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[@animeboy200p2]

Nintendo trying not to make lawsuit (impossible challenge)

[@multigammer1504]

​@@Main-f9t Why are you here?...

[@WillAschman-rn9fj]

@@Main-f9t shut up

[@WillAschman-rn9fj]

@@Main-f9t shut up

[@theduke3778]

They’re specifically seeing over “if you throw something at an enemy” They set up a patent a few weeks after Paleworld came up

[@Main-f9t]

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[@ssj10tails]

wait, you mean to tell me that nintendo couldnt find anything to sue Palworld over so they decided to set up a patent for 'if you throw something at an enemy" so that they would be able to have a means to sue palworld. Basically creating their own means of suing them

[@WhyYoutubeSucks]

As far as I know that patent was made before Palworld. It just took some time to be registered or some shit.

[@headkicked]

The patent was issued in August. The game came out the following year in January.

[@SpectreChazer]

​@@ssj10tailsyes, funny enough throwing an object to an enemy counts. Now imagine the tons of games with that mechanic.

[@Evitrea]

I talked about this in Taiwan chat, majority of people also supports Nintendo, and I had a hard time figuring out why no one seem to understand the implication of patent lawsuit... And, Ultimately it came down to this: Japan culture is just built different. PW had steadily been non-cooperative to the society and shown no remorse for it, so they need to be punished. The sentence that enlightened me was "Nintendo is basically the upper rank in Yakuza here", it's not really the west corporation logic of getting as much control as possible for profit, it's like a social responsibility thing...It's a country that you have to read apology letter for quitting a job, keeping their role is what they value the most. So if anyone's wonder why Japanese are supporting Nintendo...because it's personal, they want to see people don't behave as expected to be punished. Not saying it's right, it's just how I see them see it.

[@ggadams639]

good

[@Venemofthe888]

Thank you for this

[@Kimcheedumpling]

Yeah, that makes sense. So, in conclusion, Japan and its society are just wrong in this case. If what you say is true and if the majority of Japan supports Nintendos' decision. Throughout all of history, the decisions of entire countries, their leadership and society to be precise, are just wrong. Example: N@zi Germany. They expected everyone to behave like a German and to be German. And wanted to punish those who weren't. Modern America over the past 100 years. Constant foreign intervention and destabilizing countries weaker than them, literally bullying entire other countries. For the specific cases you and I are talking about, all 3 countries: Japan, America, and N@zi WWII Germany were and are wrong as an entire country.

[@smithynoir9980]

Cool, Japan can support Nintendo blindly (they've always made brilliant fanatics haven't they?). If the case is a Japanese court, literally nowhere else in the world has to listen or comply. They can close up shop in Japan, a minority of sales and players, and be done. Then what, Nintendiots?

[@AZREDFERN]

A lot of people don’t realize that patents expire after 15 to 20 years and you can’t extend them. People think you can extend them, but all it really is is taking the old patent and significantly upgrading a feature on it and then they re-patented it. It’s not an extension. I think at least in the US justice system if Nintendo tries to bring up its object throwing mechanic, even if they patented it in 2021, they’ve been using that since the 90s, which kind of makes the patent invalid. especially if it’s a mechanic that other people were using before they patented it, it can become invalid. Hopefully worst case scenario, is if palworld loses the lawsuit in Japan, they can move their studio over to the US.

[@KamiLeVrai]

They might need to look at console design patent sometimes Nintendo hide some game mechanics into thoses They used to have a patent for creatures lvl range in an area hidden in a gameboy patent (should be expired now) im sure there are a lot more mechanics hidden in some nintendo console patents

[@Metal_Sign-Friday_Patchouli]

It’s because it uses JP law (both JP companies) where you can just spam “renew.”

[@Menemen98]

You can definitely extend them and no patent or rights have to expire in 20 years. Just like lord of the rings which will be public in 2050

[@AZREDFERN]

@@Menemen98 that’s not a patent…

[@Menemen98]

@@AZREDFERN rights and patents are different i know but patents can in fact be extended. Inventions are basically owned.

[@FishyTheEel]

So Nintendo is copyrighting a bestiary? A pokedex is just a compendium of creatures. That's nothing new

[@logandarnell8946]

yeah next they are going to go after biology textbooks.

[@n.d.n.e1805]

No a lot of game use bestiary

[@trinodot8112]

Half the RPG games I've ever played have had some kind of bestiary mechanic.

[@thatoneguychad420]

Nintendo pure jealous that palworld kicks the ass of all the modern pokemon games. Palword shits all over them.

[@n.d.n.e1805]

@@thatoneguychad420 Why would Nintendo be jealous? They don’t own or develop the Pokémon games; Game Freak does

[@Artixes]

Nintendo is so feral about suing that they even make sht up that is basically illegal just to sue someone

[@Main-f9t]

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[@JustSomeFuckingGuy]

Of all of Nintendo's lawsuits, suing palworld makes sense.

[@sygneg7348]

These bots are crazy 💀

[@jeandeasd]

The thing is this patent lawsuit is not illegal because there is no law that says that you cant own a concept, this enters the realm of diluted law and business which is kinda interesting topic imo

[@Cubeytheawesome]

I actually feel betrayed by this. I knew they had a lot of lawsuits against people, but I didn’t know it would be over something this petty

[@poyrazunlu]

Nintendo are clowns for not only suing a game for a stupid reason but suing the game when it's popularity died 💀

[@maarcvaalmaarcvaal8325]

I think Nintendo & Game Freak sued them now since it isn't as popular anymore, so they MAYBE expected this to fly under the radar. They did tweet it, so who knows.

[@ripadblock]

How is the game being dead relevant at all here?

[@poyrazunlu]

@@ripadblockbecause the creators already made profit of palworld before it got sued

[@yuugur666]

definitely ain't a dead game. Still getting early access updates, still getting tens of thousands of players a day, etc.

[@maarcvaalmaarcvaal8325]

I mean how KZbin and other streamers have moved on from it. Unless you're a Palworld fan you probably wouldn't know about this. However, Nintendo tweet it, and so did the creators, so people remembered Palworld and got pissed. Nintendo should've done this more silently.

[@user-bi2wn4vn3b]

God reminds me of when Disney sued that family over the spiderman headstone for their dead kid lmao

[@Main-f9t]

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[@Isiahj-u7w]

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[@xsleet2839]

lol but this makes more sense

[@Isiahj-u7w]

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[@EpicGamerTank99]

god that's evil

[@Arcademan09]

As a huge Nintendo fan i genuinely hope they lose this lawsuit, its complete bullshit. What makes it worse is that this is from Japan and their legal system is a massive pain to understand when it comes to copyright, like i don't think Fair Use even exists over there, you'll get arrested for modding videogames

[@umuppp-e7n]

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[@GameTimeNLL]

Fair use doesnt exist in japan. But this is not about copyright. But patent. Which is different.

[@Arcademan09]

@@GameTimeNLL that's exactly my point, if Fair Use doesn't exist then imagine what's going to happen to court over this

[@GameTimeNLL]

@@Arcademan09 again this is about patent, not copyright. Fair use is about copyright. Which this case is not.

[@Arcademan09]

@@GameTimeNLL *I KNOW ITS NOT ABOUT COPYRIGHT IM SAYING THAT THEIR ENTIRE LEGAL SYSTEM DOESN'T BELIEVE IN FAIR USE SO IMAGINE HOW THEY'RE GOING TO ACT ON THIS*

[@accuratememin]

I think the most bizarre thing about this lawsuit is that there's a shocking amount of people SUPPORTING Nintendo, saying they hope Palworld loses hard and stuff. And it's not just some brainrotted Twitter incels, that includes a majority of my feed saying how "Palworld is doomed lmao" and some Japanese folks. It's not like it's a small group, it's a pretty sizeable amount of people who really really hate Palworld...who are also ironically the most clueless and say "well they stole designs so lmao" even though that's not what the case is about. We live in an actual dystopia.

[@grunkleg.29691]

I mean the guys at Pocketpair aren't exactly saints

[@feha92]

tbf, palworld _did_ outright rip off various designs. Almost to the same extent Nintendo did when they first created a game called "pokemon". I think the main reason however, is that there are guns and slavery and palworld overall steps away from the mascot-y theme. And (some) people simply don't want that in their comfort food.

[@Rivecha]

​@@feha92except Pokemon's "ripoffs" are just that they'd make a crab creature or a bird creature, a Pokemon based on the same animal/yokai as another monster from another franchise. Palworld's ripoffs are basically just them taking Charizard, hue shifting it blue, and saying its a new design.

[@GameBooAdvancePlus]

It's not surprising me that there's nothing but praise from the japanese. Over there publically saying a corpo is bad opens you up for a defamation lawsuit that will actually succeed and leave you destitute. There are certainly japanese fans that support palworld but they cannot publically voice their opinion or else Nintendo will rob them of their home.

[@howdoichangemyprofilepictu9839]

​@feha92 well they aren't being sued for the designs, they are being sued for a patent that Nintendo created AFTER palworld released

[@zenkrayos1720]

patenting a game mechanic doesn't even make sense, it shouldn't even be a thing.

[@ssj4922]

It's funny how patents are claimed to protect innovation, so that an artist can feel secured that their creation won't be stolen, and yet all they actually achieve in the modern age is corporations abusing it to stifle competition, thus _preventing_ innovation... Instead of learning from Palworld and improving their own product in Pokémon, Nintendo would rather out sue the competition, so that they don't exist in the first place. Classic corporate greed everyone👏

[@Main-f9t]

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[@kingkaiser95]

to be fair even when Patents were made Thomas Edison used them to screw over Nikolai Tesla, so theres history in screwing people over

[@iamerror6546]

why improve your own product when you can just take out the competition

[@Smiththebat]

Capitalism at its finest.

[@TrixyTrixter]

​@Smiththebat not capitalism. Patents are entirely goverment enforced so way closer to socialism. Under capitalism the best/least expencive product will win out.

[@apexalaska]

Nintendo suing Palworld is like DC suing Amazon over The Boys and Invincible. Just because it looks the same doesn't mean it is the same. Homelander has Supermans powers and dresses like him, but he is the farthest thing from being him. Just cause Palworld looks like Pokemon does not make it Pokemon, it doesn't make sense.

[@blackmark2899]

I mean they did do that to Shazam. That's why he's in DC. They sued for copyright, won, and then bought the rights to the character when the company went under.

[@duscl0ps356]

except that there's a couple of ripped assets from pokemon models and some designs that are a little TOO similar

[@joshuaanderson1712]

@@duscl0ps356 Except that's not what they're suing about. 'Yeah, they planted the drugs in the other guy's car, but I think he's probably guilty of something else so it's okay.'

[@dasavagecabbage9483]

​@duscl0ps356 there were no ripped assets that was completely fabricated but yeah a couple pal designs are indefensible

[@smithynoir9980]

@@dasavagecabbage9483 No, they are perfectly defensible; they are designed from the ground up and inspired by other IP's. Same as Pokémon were inspired by Dragon Quest. Or the way that song covers aren't an infringement so long as all the music was played and recorded again.

[@whimsicalwiz]

It's hard to love Nintendo when they wield the law like a sword...

[@Main-f9t]

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[@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz]

more like a flaming bag of poop

[@FrostDK98]

Its not a sword of justice, but a sword of greed. Nintendo scks

[@ThomasVvV]

Easy. Love the games, not the company. Who would love a faceless entity like corporate Nintendo anyways…?

[@InvadeNormandy]

They are the apple of the console world.

[@TeEPIC_Duck]

I feel like the terminology of “catching” is a little vague, ya’know? Like, “oh no, in Minecraft, I threw a breeze ball to launch a sheep into my prebuilt pen built in a field, banned by Pokémon”

[@InvadeNormandy]

What's crazy is it's a patent lawsuit, for game mechanics/concepts. If pocketpair or their legal team has a brain they'll cite the previous decades of pokemon clones that have identical and near identical mechanics to the mainline pokemon games that gamefreak and nintendo apparently didn't feel the need to speak up about. As this is clearly a "We're mad you're big enough to step on our toes" move more than anything. Btw some of those include robopon, medabots, DQ/DW monsters, World of final fantasy, yokai watch, temtem, monster sanctuary etc.

[@sarkaztik3228]

Well, it's Japan. Like many huge companies in the U.S., Nintendo will likely win simply for being Nintendo and abusing technicalities and word salad. When it comes to massive companies, I don't trust any court to truly rule against those with money.

[@Main-f9t]

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[@thomasprice7893]

Pokemon wasn't even the first "Capture monsters and put them in a storage device" property

[@trijim9485]

Let’s not forget there was a Rick and Morty mobile game where it literally played like Pokemon. You obviously played as Rick and you traveled around catching Morty’s which had their own moves and such.

[@AllThingsEntertaining]

@@thomasprice7893 Likely not important if Nintendo was the first to patent the idea though.

[@ZarthianOrder]

Average Japanese company moment, also it’s hilarious because Pokemon literally copied a gameboy game of monster catching.

[@mattmaas5790]

More like weird af how kids these days constantly promote Chinese policies like getting rid of IP protection.

[@Ryudo1236]

​@@mattmaas5790IP protection does nothing but hurt fan games and line the pockets of these companies and ensure that they don't ever need to worry about competition. Maybe they should just actually make a decent game.

[@alexs29]

@@mattmaas5790 It's 2024. People make mods, fan games, fan projects, content creation videos, streams, community events, video streams, fan art, fan fiction - even porn of their favorite characters and favorite IPs. And nearly all of them do it for free, purely out of passion and love for the IP they cherish. Of course nobody in their right mind favors excessive IP protection anymore.

[@mattmaas5790]

@@alexs29 you obviously don't understand copyright, everything you mentioned is covered under fair use exemptions

[@mattmaas5790]

@@Ryudo1236 um you're wrong, it's quite important to our society. But you can go live in China if you want to by all means. Is moving to China your dream?

[@Dr.Giggletouch0352]

Palworld was gonna come out of beta at the end of this year. This was 100% Nintendo letting them pour money into the project and suing them now so they could hurt them as much as possible.

[@axt2]

but Palworld has been incredibly, incredibly profitable for the devs. It's one of the best selling steam games of all time. Their war chest is full.

[@Dr.Giggletouch0352]

@@axt2that is an absolute nothing statement.For one just because a game sells well on steam does not mean the devs pockets are full. Charlie made a video on this just a couple days ago. On top of the. Pokémon and Nintendo are multi BILLION dollar company who can throw 10s of millions of dollars at a legal team. They are super power companies going against a small company.

[@luameduardo9611]

Even if they don't win, they can just keep suing palworld indefinitely to exhaust their money into legal resources until they can't go on anymore. It's a common strategy because being involved in these is exhausting and expensive.

[@Invizive]

​@@axt2 and Nintendo would do anything to make them regret their decisions, even if it comes at a loss This is a petty retaliation and a lesson for others

[@axt2]

@@Dr.Giggletouch0352 The game sold massively better than the devs expected. I dont assume they planned for failure. Lawfare is certaintly a concern but I'm honestly ignorant on how Japan handles this plus reimbursing the winning side with court fees, etc. A good legal team is an advantage but even the most brilliant legal minds can only stretch the truth so far. Nintendo is really hurting their image with this too. The PR hit may make the juice not worth the squeeze in the long term.

[@2nd-place]

EASY: Just update Palworld to throw cubes instead of balls. Done.

[@risinglabyrinth5977]

Nintendo must have been foaming at the mouth to finally get to sue somebody else again

[@Main-f9t]

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[@Santana_Z31]

Stg Nintendo is like a pit bull named Princess when it sees an unaccompanied baby when they get to sue someone

[@mattmaas5790]

Actually Nintendo would rather just not have their products ripped off in the first place I'm sure.

[@ahjer8519]

I swear it's like Nintendo is allergic to not suing someone at least once a year

[@Main-f9t]

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[@Isiahj-u7w]

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[@animeboy200p2]

Exactly

[@Oblivionblade25]

It was inevitable.

[@miket.9388]

Me: throws a rock Nintendo: *GASP* IS THAT A POKEMON REFERENCE?!?!?!

[@BonBonToro]

lol I read that in the _is that the bite of 87_ voice

[@socks92]

Safari zone lol

[@Chr725]

*l a w y e r u p*

[@BiltzBoi]

We need to create a bill that stops game “mechanics” from being patented. They only give developers the ability not to innovate.

[@jimhalpert0]

Nintendo on their way to sue a cat that accidentally ate a mushroom: 🗿

[@randomenvelope]

Nintendo on their way to sue a cat because they patented cats after super mario 3d world

[@Main-f9t]

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[@reallyfreakingoodvideogame468]

REAL

[@blue_collar_solidYT]

​@@randomenvelope Sounds like something they would do

[@mattmaas5790]

Why couldn't Palworld just come up with their own creatures? This is feeling way too Chinese IP thefty to me, I will not act chinese.

[@giddyhorizon4890]

We should watch out. Nintendo might start suing Nintendo for copying Nintendo

[@Chadmiral]

Lol that's be hilairious 😂

[@globsterjail8195]

I'd say it hurt itself in its confusion, but I might get sued for that

[@casadilla111]

I’d actually be shocked if they haven’t by now. Not directly, but those corporate situations where one branch of a corporation sues another branch without realizing they’re both under the same parent company

[@williammaurice7206]

We can only dream that becomes a trend with greedy companies.

[@Cifo]

I believe they already did, but I dont remember the specifics.

[@TerryAFreeman]

Something that not many are talking about is that said patent was submitted AFTER Palworld came out. How does Nintendo think they have a case here?!

[@epictoe7179]

Money

[@TheSixthSLoT]

Wow. If there's any truth to that, Pocket Pair should counter sue Nintendo.

[@Karlyr_]

It was approved after Palworld came out. Submitted in 2021. Charlie just said it in the video.

[@immfi]

they're both based in Japan, and Japan's really bad for this sort of thing

[@literaldoorknob]

bot

[@hansjones5708]

Nintendo greed. Why are they allowed to patent thousands of game mechanics? It just means no other game developer can make similar games without being threatened with lawsuit

[@TRMeowth]

If Palworld released a DLC to help pay for legal fees that was just an island that contained a bunch of sentient red Ns walking around and I could beat them with sticks, I'd buy it. I'd make a second steam account and then buy it again.

[@Jolis_Parsec]

Do that and populate it with caricatures of Shigeru Miyamoto and I’ll buy it and gift it to my friends. 😂

[@47slogra]

​@Jolis_Parsec and then they will sue them again for diffamation,genius plan

[@Jolis_Parsec]

@@47slogra Nah, parody clause, Nintendrone. Mald harder. 😏

[@Stellar-Jay]

@@Jolis_Parsec You'd have to make it look SUPER unlike Miyamoto or so horribly vaguely like him in order to let that pass as a sell-able product. Parody clause doesn't protect you from defamation if the person you're defaming looks exactly or too close like the real person, ESPECIALLY if you're making a profit off their likeness. Also these are Japanese laws we need to take into account, their laws for parody and the like are a bit different from ours. Like, granted, you could make ANY Asian-looking character and name him Shigeru Miyamoto and do that, but then that brings in the argument of "you think every Asian looks like Miyamoto? Wow racism" so that one kind of falls a bit flat. Mans throws "parody clause lul" like a caveman tries throwing a rock at a bird in a really tall tree. Stay mad, slopworld enjoyer.

[@danielhanna19]

😂

[@gamerblackjacket]

0:56 hey so Nintendo did sent a cease and desist order on a modder who made well the pals into Pokemon before suing pal world

[@SpideyfanX]

Not just that, but said modder put that Pokémon mod behind a paywall, aka, monetizing off of copyrighted characters.

[@emeraldgiss]

A note that not many people realize. Sony and Microsoft have gone on the palworld train. Sony having a joint venture named Palworld Entertainment. Microsoft and them are just on very good terms. This might be the first time Sony and Microsoft team up.

[@Jolis_Parsec]

Oh, that would be hilarious if Nintendo’s CEO got a conference call out of the blue only for Totoki and Spencer to both be on the other end saying “Bro, what the absolute hell do you think you’re doing?!” 😂

[@mattmaas5790]

Sonys about to learn another duly needed lesson it seems then.

[@Jolis_Parsec]

@@mattmaas5790 Nah, that would be Nintendo, you manlet. 😏

[@mattmaas5790]

@@Jolis_Parsec you some communist that doesnt believe in IP? living in China sucks because entrepreneurs have no protections. Lets NOT be china.

[@alexs29]

@@mattmaas5790 More like Nintendo is about to learn. Sony is Japan's 5th largest corporation if we're going by market capitalization alone, while Nintendo's only in 20th place. People seem to forget that Sony is a massive conglomerate that has its hand in other businesses and industries besides games. If Sony steps in to defend Pocket Pair then Nintendo is fucked, no contest.

[@DillonMeyer]

I'm ready for Nintendo to not only lose this case, but also lose the countersuit for damages.

[@Skullnezz]

Did mans take a pause at 4:18 to fix his cards on the bottom right

[@BrandonDenny-we1rw]

Yes

[@TedCornish]

Well spotted 👍👍

[@Arctic_roach]

Damn

[@Speaker2400-m5i]

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[@Capt_Dango]

I found that way funnier than I should have

[@username___1]

“Far fetched” wasn’t a good choice in words when talking about Nintendo

[@juniorkyle8123]

this lawsuit should be a WAY bigger story than it currently is and should piss off and/or terrify any developer out there, both indie and fanmade. the entire genre of monster catcher/tamer is about to go extinct if nintendo is given so much as an inch. imagine if capcom patented all 2d fighters, or if activision patented all FPS and hero shooters. thats basically what nintendo is doing

[@notameme2631]

We all know when Nintendo picks a fight with a company, they're 1000% sure they'll get what they want.

[@nicholashi3334]

If Nintendo wins this lawsuit I'm going to get a patent of putting your bicycle in a backpack since apparently you can sue for anything a company did in the past before the patent

[@defenem73]

1:22 "Charging their ult" this made me laugh out loud for some reason as I imagined Nintendo's board of directors charging up like Goku's first super saiyan transformation.

[@Lurkmaster9000]

It’s these random sayings that keep me watching critical 🤣

[@literaldoorknob]

Every 60 seconds in the Mushroom Kingdom, a minute passes.

[@xenrusxenomorph2268]

Together we can stop this.

[@Roebloz]

Please spread the word.

[@smithynoir9980]

Remember; Pokemon got most of their original designs from Dragon Quest and Game Freak / Nintendo got the throw-ball, capture, track stats mechanic from IP's that had done it long before they did. For the patent to have any validity they'd need to have filed it when they made their first game, argued against anyone that said they did it first then and won. Now though, there's 20 years of prior use by so many games and media you couldn't count it. The whole thing is a scam by Nintendo. If you've got a caring bone in your body; never pay for Nintendo products ever again. Keep in mind, it doesn't mean you have to miss out. You gain nothing by supporting large corporations that abuse the little guy instead of using their vastly greater resources to make a better product than their small-time competitors. Any group that thinks they are entitled to legal protection from competition deserves to be taken from and to crumble.

[@issamorg3089]

Considering how rabid nintendo's lawyers are I'm half convinced they had a series of meetings on just *how* to sue between a core gameplay patent vs copyright infringement. Don't mind my tinfoil hat here, but it wouldn't surprise me if they chose a patent over copyright because while you can update the game and change models, core gameplay isn't quite as easy

[@headkicked]

As a poker player, "pocket pair" means something different to me. I wonder if the Palworld devs are gamblers.

[@QuoteBlink]

Remember it is morally correct to pirate a Nintendo games.

[@dabbingraccoons6416]

100% true. They deserve to not get payed for their work considering how many people they’ve shut down and stolen money from for their work

[@Stellar-Jay]

It is morally correct to pirate any game. Screw you and your self-imposed moral system, I'm gonna go pirate every single triple A and indie-game on the market.

[@inkga10clan29]

I bought a modded Wii yesterday lol

[@mattmaas5790]

** any video game you don't like

[@zzxp1]

Is not only correct, is a duty.

[@strandwolf796]

pokemon would NEVER even come close to winning a copyright infringment lawsuit over the design of pokemon/pals, because pokemon copied them from dragon quest, and 90%+ of the pokemons are just animals with a weird color and a horn or something like that added, and when they ran out of animals they just started doing everyday items+silly stuff on top

[@gamer-san8923]

I hope Palworld wins this suit. A healthy competition would definitely force Nintendo to improve Pokemon in the future.

[@Cubeytheawesome]

They’ve been on the top for so long the idea of competition is alien to them

[@Eeyoi2006]

Yeah,I honestly wanna see them be like coke and pepsi.just making ads about how they're ones are better

[@unnamed7485]

@@Eeyoi2006 Or Sega and Nintendo, would be funny to see that kind of rivalry again

[@mattmaas5790]

I hope they don't. I like pokemon and think good ideas deserve to be copyrighted. Losing copyright makes us CHINA and they kinda suck.

[@Roebloz]

​@@mattmaas5790cope

[@bigoito1142]

Nintendo acting like little monsters is a super unique idea that only they can create

[@NuKeRGG]

Imagine if the first-ever first-person shooter had been patented, and no one else was allowed to create one. While that sounds extreme, it highlights how absurd and restrictive patenting game mechanics can be. If companies start patenting basic mechanics, innovation will be stifled, and the entire gaming industry could stagnate. It would be the beginning of the end for games as we know them.

[@othersidelawn]

The Concorde jokes never get old, just like the game

[@Tbanksss]

Patenting the Nemesis system was so shitty for the entire industry, it shouldn’t be possible to patent. Imagine the nemesis system in GTA

[@zacharykraft1098]

Hell using Nintendo as an example, imagine that in Pokémon. Where any trainer could wind up becoming your newest rival and if they beat you get stronger, harder, & smarter.

[@Tbanksss]

@@zacharykraft1098 that would be awesome. The nemesis system could improve literally every game

[@Hakokoro]

Theyc an still use a nemesis system,it just can follow the same exact logic as WB's Nemesis System.

[@Tbanksss]

@@Hakokoro that sounds like a good way to get sued.

[@KamiLeVrai]

​@@zacharykraft1098 They can still do it. The Nemesis system patent isnt about the Nemesis and rivalry Its about real time calculation and modification of events while playing. Let's say you fight a trainer with 6 pokemon. The 6 pokemons are already predetermined But if you fight a trainer and the trainer send 1 pokemon , then the game modify the other 5 depending on your team this could count for the Nemesis patent. If you just rematch a trainer and he get stronger and adapt his team depeding for the rematch depending on your previous team that will not count for the nemesis patent. Because its not real time modification Warner didnt patented the Nemesis genre , they patented a way to modify events in real time based on player actions, randomness, etc... they use that method to make the Nemesis and other events in their games more dynamic. But the Nemesis genre itself isnt patented

[@ivantxic7870]

Imagine patenting “throw something at someone and something happens” that would be very absurd… oh wait… it actually happened…

[@TheLastArbiter]

Maybe pokemon should stop getting complacent and try harder to retain its throne. Instead of releasing trash. Leave Palworld alone.

[@47slogra]

Yes 24 million copies? Pure trash obviously. Just because you have a hateboner does not mean everything nintendo makes is trash

[@TheLastArbiter]

@@47slogra it’s pokemon, they could record a video of someone taking a shit onto the CD and it would sell 5 million copies.

[@tylerbivins9807]

​@@TheLastArbiterAss Ketchum

[@TheLastArbiter]

@@tylerbivins9807 💀😂

[@JayPeeh455]

​@@47slograoh my god, stop talking pls

[@mutantraze3681]

You also cant exactly say they “stole designs” when their designs are largely based on things that already exist like Anubis. Probably one of the closer looking ones and its just because its based off Anubis which you can not copyright

[@batman106]

They have so many similar designs it's obvious its copied😂. Lucario, Electabuzz etc

[@sarastagnitto3159]

@@batman106nothing wrong with similar concepts

[@blackmark2899]

@@batman106 The Anubis to Lucario argument can be made. However I'll never understand you people comparing Electabuzz with Grizzbolt. To me they look nothing alike aside from fur design. Studio Ghibli has a better claim to that than Nintendo. Why is that one of the first ones y'all name when Verdash and Cremis are RIGHT THERE?!

[@SpideyfanX]

​@@blackmark2899The Green Cinderace and the Luxray ripoff alsi exist. And I ain't even got to begin with the Water Serperior.

[@blackmark2899]

@@SpideyfanX As far as I know the Luxray looking Pal is a still a cut Pal that you can't even see in game unless you fiddle with your game files. As far as, I think you're referring to Azurobe, the fact that the only way to really see it is to stretch the model out to it's full length in a model view is a testament to how well they altered it. Verdash and Cremis though, naw that's some 12 year old's "Original OC" energy right there. You can just look at it and see the rip.

[@VoltrenXytech]

nah, its even scummier than the other game mechanic patents, because Nintendo literally patented the entire ideology of "throwing item at enemy" back in May, just after the palworld rush so its literally a malicious patent that in any other major country would get them both barred from making more patents, and would get them sued by multiple countries trade commissions if Nintendo wins, that will be the end of any and all throwing mechanics in games forever

[@neowolf09]

If Nintendo wins I'll never buy any of their products again.

[@AAhmou]

Not forever... Just a few decades... Yeah it's bad ngl.

[@ReduckYT_]

I’ve been by Nintendo headquarters and I’ve seen lots of horses pulling up to deliver notes to them. Doug Bowser drives a Mercedes Benz 1919 patented motor wagon.

[@MathiasDSmith]

I don’t get why patents in video games even exist. Wouldn’t that create a monopoly or something similar?

[@lrizzard]

yep.

[@TheWanderingVali]

This seems Strategic. There's not as much money in Palworld now. It'll cost less for Nintendo / Pokemon to shut Pocket Pear down completely now.

[@MucepheisBustyBust]

It is a strategy, and it is used a lot by companies to stomp out any potential competition. I'm not in support of it, but nintendo can be seen as wanting to hold the top position of being the creature catching genre king and will do anything to hold that title by any means

[@TheWanderingVali]

@@MucepheisBustyBust I agree. However, in my mind it doesn't really matter if you agree or not. Like you say, this happens in business all the time.

[@venomsabre2696]

Some megacorporation is gonna patent "Pressing the spacebar which causes the player character to Jump." and there'll be nothing we can do about it.

[@Tekaisuwu]

Can't wait for *breathing* to be patented

[@toast2110]

Pocketpair should patent the concept of jumping on enemies to kill them and threatening to let everyone use it for free except for Nintendo unless they drop the case.

[@TheSuperRobotMama]

Genius

[@Portersona69420]

This is actually genius

[@bronzdeck6412]

Nintendo on their way to amputate a six year old after they applied a temporary Pikachu tattoo on their shoulder:

[@verakoo6187]

The nemesis system came out in 2014, imagine the types of NPC combatants we would have if devs had been allowed to build upon it for the past decade. Instead WB was busy making Gollum.

[@PoketronPokey404]

Something crazy that was just found out. Nintendo didn’t own one of thr patents the devs are being sued for before Palworld came out. They owned it then sued

[@luckycoin8269]

Digimon and Monster Rancher sitting on the sidelines eating popcorn.

[@figbloppa7183]

If it helps at all, Pocketpair should know that they have the backing of millions.

[@redna_menimoh]

Imagine if Mojang patented block placement mechanic

[@kosagasprited5613]

Nintendo wants to own the game mechanic of throwing your balls at animals lol

[@tylerbivins9807]

Next, they're going to want to own the mechanics of a lizard kidnapping a lady

[@kosagasprited5613]

@@tylerbivins9807 yeah, lol

[@thiscommonsinkt3367]

I've said it once. And I'll say it again Nintendo is the type of company that would bring back the Axis Powers and redo WW2 if they came across a Jewish kid named Luigi

[@jorgedaniel9656]

The hilarious part is that they're doing this after the developers of Palworld pulled a Nintendo and said "fuck it, we've made our bag, the game is good enough"

[@oghene2778]

Palworld got a patent lawsuit but yo-kai watch, smt, persona didn't? These people didn't invent the monster catching genre

[@OFSheep]

Patents can get really really specific. It may be as granular as throwing a round object that shakes multiple times to build tension. It can be so specific that Palworld's spheres shaking twice as opposed to Pokeballs' thrice could be decisive.

[@jeanpeste1178]

Well I don't really know about the other two but tbf yokai watch capture mecanic is not really the same as pokemon's one, in the sense you either bait them with food or just get lucky to befriend a yokai

[@pancaek_boi]

You do realize that SMT was the origin of the creature catching game genre right? DO some research first at least Also the mechanics for getting the creatures are wildly different. SMT has you talk to demons and persuade them, Persona has shuffle time and idk what yokai watch has. Palworld was the closest with you throwing balls at creatures in the overworld, and it was literally mean to be like pokemon

[@shellzmalhotra709]

Nintendo would call the cops on me If I am found Playing Mario

[@ZettXXII]

Imagine if the entirety of DOOM had been patented. There would have been no clones and no gradually tested innovation.

[@williammaurice7206]

There might have been a lot of first person mechanics that couldn't exist today. Doesn't matter if someone did it before them, who ever patents it first holds the power. It would have been amazing if pocket pair put in a bunch of patents before development and started suing nintendo.

[@Resurgence47]

i'd like to point out most of the patents nintendo claims were stolen were only approved last month