Panasonic GH5 II Review From a Lumix GH5 and S5 Owner

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This is a review of the Panasonic GH5 II - I compare it to the Lumix S5 and original GH5. Including autofocus tests, IBIS, and more. We also talk about the upcoming Panasonic Lumix GH6. Is this the best camera for KZbin? Is it the best camera for streaming?
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[@Artbe_Tokyo]

As a GH5s user, I'm happy that my investment in M43 family is still worthwhile.

[@artistjoh]

G9 user here, also happy with my MFT investment.

[@iSpike]

HELL YEAH Jan 2024 Still ROCKS GH5 II

[@CargoBikeLifecom]

Thanks for this update on this! I miss the size of my kit when I used a GH5 for sure. The 2.8 lenses and the pocketable 18mm! Also, I'm here for the haircut & yellow tshirt.

[@l.s.11]

Your talking has really.. developed. I like the way you talk and present things.

[@impatrickt]

🙏

[@WesKriesel]

The GH5 is legend. I had it and it was beyond my skill level at the time. Now that I have the Canon R5 - and love it - and have learned more over time, I look back at the GH5 and... It was definitely ahead of the times!

[@khalidtaha567]

It's always a good day when patrick uploads

[@rubiotv]

Agreed!

[@MikeErickson]

Great review! I love my gh5 - but now you got me thinking about that S5...

[@CarFan101_]

Just got a usef GH5 and for video features, it's a blast to work with. I like their menu system and depending on your needs, it's hard to beat for quality VS price. Hopefully, they keep on getting stronger as the next generations follow...

[@AbrahamLatchin]

Great walk through. Like you I use m43rds commercially as I enjoy the overall system experience.

[@TheFilmmakersWorkshop]

Nice job Patrick. I think the video sums up where the camera business is right now. Cameras being produced for more niche or new markets; creators, live streamers, cinematic stock footage peeps, instagrammers. I totally concur with holding off. Sold my GH5 and holding on to M43 glass until the GH6 appears. Cheers!

[@impatrickt]

Yeah! It’s interesting and I think it’s kind of cool that Panasonic is doubling down in niche tailored solutions.

[@rubenarends124]

it's out did you already get it?

[@YannickReid]

Those LUMIX colours are sooooo nice

[@GoTravelPlanet]

Great video thanks. I have a G9 and I'm thinking of getting the GH5m2. I would love to buy the GH6 but I tend to wait until prices go down and then get one. So I'm thinking of getting the GH5m2 as I said and in a year's time get the GH6. Do you think that is a good move? I need to set up my filming game

[@weedeeohguy]

Good analysis. Come on GH6. Will hang on to the GH5 in meantime.

[@naturalartfilms]

Still using my GH4 in certain situations. Using the M4/3 lenses from my GH4 with the BMPCC 4K. Love that camera too. Just got a Sony FX3 for low-light work. Excellent auto-focus on the Sony.

[@chris_sparrows]

My GH5 is still going strong. Been enjoying the Rokinon 12mm T2.2 lately.

[@impatrickt]

That lens was one of my first reviews.

[@PatrickStirling]

I'm very interested in how they'll implement the upcoming wired IP streaming in the GH5 2. I don't even know if it's possible but if they can run that signal along with power over a single usb-c it would be killer... the deo they did of IP streaming on the BGH-1 was super impressive. I've been holding off on an upgrade for a while and was sooo close to pulling the trigger on a gh5 several times over the last few years..

[@impatrickt]

I gotta be honest I have no idea what anything you just said means but sounds exciting

[@TheFlyFishingFilmmaker]

@@impatrickt haha

[@KarlAdamsAudio]

A longtime GH4 user, my grand (cheapskate) plan was to wait for the GH6 to be released, then snaffle up an inexpensive used GH5 - but instead I've ordered a GH5M2, so it certainly tempted me.

[@Mr007jamster]

How did you set up AFC 1 area + human detect at the same time?

[@ExploringWorldYouTube]

Hi Patrick, thanks for your interesting video, thanks to share it. I need a suggestion from you please. I take ONLY documentaries in 4K about daily life of indogenous peoples in remote areas (Africa, South America, etc.) and I need to use continuous AF very often and I shoot freehand without tripod and without gimbal. In your opinion is it better to buy and use a Lumix GH5 MKII (with Leica 12-60) or Sony A7 IV (with its basic zoom)? What is your thought please? THANK YOU.

[@impatrickt]

Grab the Sony.

[@thanos1978-]

nice video!i have one question please..what profile toy use ?neutrual?also you use white balance or shooting with auto white balance?thanks...

[@impatrickt]

i just shot in standard for this video.. thanks1

[@thanos1978-]

@@impatrickt white balance?

[@impatrickt]

@@thanos1978- I don’t remember but it’s dependent on what you’re shooting.

[@greg_brookes]

I'm looking to add 4k video recording for short film and theatre work that can be fairly low light at times; I realise the trade off is between the GH5s (designed with lower light video performance in mind but without the ibis) and either the S5 or GH5 ii; is the S5 low light video performance reasonable? thanks

[@impatrickt]

You should probably look at Sony.

[@greg_brookes]

@@impatrickt thanks, the A7iii?

[@PastorMarionGillies]

How do I see the image? I just bought this camera for church. I am only used to basic cameras. When I look into the camera I cant see the image. Please help.

[@modelnaturephotography]

Made the jump from G90 to GH5 ii and primarily recording for You Tube with the addition of portrait photography, not sure the difference is that audible to people who rely on social media as a form of communication who rely on social media platforms that have limiters on quality.

[@TristanLaughton]

Oh. That autofocus actually is pretty good! Unless you’re a stickler for the background pulsing which you can barely notice. Did you find that the autofocus was a bit snappier on the GH5 II compared to the S5 because of the faster readout on the smaller sensor?

[@impatrickt]

No the S5 is better. Lumix has confirmed that as well.

[@impatrickt]

@@thewalkingvloggingman7152 wrong

[@kylelowe]

Next steps on the ladder!

[@timothyawe5103]

Great video

[@AllThingsFilm1]

Excellent comparison video. I am trying to hold out to see what the GH6 offers. At the $2,500 price point, I am wondering what they're bringing to the GH6. I'm hoping internal ND's...maybe? At $2,500 it is a jump from the S5 and GH5ii. So, I'm hoping there will be insane new features to justify the price. I hope they release more feature details on the GH6 soon.

[@impatrickt]

Internal ND is unlikely. Thanks for watching.

[@MarkBennettCameraCrisis]

I wonder about the price too. With the S5 around $2k - the GH6 is gonna have to have some great features for me to pay $2500…

[@SamoScopom]

Can you do focus assist magnification while recording on the GH5 mk2?

[@impatrickt]

No

[@ikamultimedia]

Hi Patrick. I really appreciate your videos and reviews. That's why I want to ask you this question: I am creating my brand based on documentarys for KZbin and I am working with a GH4 and a meke 25mm f 2.8. On the way I realize I definitely need a good zoom lens to continue my work. So I could invest in a Lumix 12-35 2.8 but then I think that lens is not that great, so I am thinking in the Leica 10-25 which I think is the perfect zoom range for my work. But then I realized that the cost of that lense is almost the same than a Lumix S5 with the kit lens, that result being a similar zoom range. In one hand would be great to invest in this Leica so when I can afford a GH5 or even a GH6 would be a great combo. But in the other hand that S5 would also be great for it's characteristics and it's zoom great/cheap lense. So.... May I ask you for your opinion?

[@impatrickt]

12-35 is an excellent lens

[@laloangel8451]

Thanks for this! it's just what i was thinking, buy the gh52 or the s5 and i think i'm going for that sweet S5

[@impatrickt]

Love the S5. Check out my other videos on if!

[@Zimvg]

what cage is that at 7:24?

[@JacksonHayes]

I don't have anything to say. Cheerspeace.

[@rw3452]

Do you find the sensor more digital than the GH5 due to the coating?

[@impatrickt]

Didn’t notice a difference

[@anthonymelendez2605]

When it comes down to people saying the s5 lenses are too big, you can go aps-c mode and use smaller lenses, and vintage is the best way, especially if your all manual anyways. You can get a 24-70 l mount for 2k or cop several different vintage primes.

[@impatrickt]

Unfortunately the aps-c mode is considerably noisier though and I’d rather just use a good aps-c camera that doesn’t have 30 min record limit and better AF. even my XT3 is a better aps-c camera than the S5. The S5 is best when it’s in full frame. I even use the HD 60 just to avoid the aps-c crop in 4K 60 😂 I have a video on vintage lenses for the S5 but in FF.

[@digital.mente.]

@@impatrickt Do you really find the HD 50 (60) to better than 4k 50? I'm thinking noise, lowlight.

[@impatrickt]

@@digital.mente. the aps-c 4K is not good enough for my taste. its too noisy. the HD full frame is oversampled 4K so its extra crispy.

[@jtapia1123]

I wish I could buy every camera and every lens that exists and then maybe I will be happy and not sad inside. Yeah that should do it

[@Ulrich.Bierwisch]

I watch a number of videos about the GH5-II and everybody said it's a GH5 with a few improvements. The obvious ones like 60p 10bit, better AF, the battery and then everybody showed some other improvements and every time it was something else. So I made a list and it got longer and longer. In total the GH5-II is much more improved then it appeared in the first place and I expect most of this will be included in the GH6 and other new cameras in the future. I'm happily waiting for the GH6-specs now.

[@impatrickt]

I mean yeah… you can list out on paper what’s different or improved but practically speaking it’s not much - at least not anything that translates into some drastically different user experience. it’s a slightly better GH5. the 4K 60 10 bit stuff is kind of old news now in the camera world. if you get one in hand and you have a mark I gh5 you might not even realize you’re using a new model.

[@Ulrich.Bierwisch]

@@impatrickt I don't upgrade my GH5 just because the GH5-II is better and has a lot of improvements. I even kept using the GH3 and jumped over the GH4 because I didn't need 4k at that time. But some of the improvements are more or less directly matching my wish-list: linear manual focus, single AF in VFR before recording, up to 13 presets (compared to 5), named presets, red frame when recording - just to name the things that are important for me but not so often discussed in the videos. Since I'm pretty sure all the changes will also be available or further improved in the GH6, I'm now more or less tending towards buying this early when it comes out. To me it looks like Panasonic is heading into the right direction. There is one thing I haven't found about the GH5-II. If I switch to auto-ISO, aperture or time in video, the camera don't show what is used. I've heard this has been changed in some of the S cameras but I would like to know if it also is changed in the GH5-II.

[@techfluencer9972]

@@Ulrich.Bierwisch WHAT... You can autofocus before recording a slo-mo shot in the GH5ii?!!!! Not a single reviewer has mentioned this so far! I'm going to buy one now knowing this. Linear focus + red record frame plus autofocus before recording in VFR alone are worth the upgrade for me! Thanks for pointing that out! 😁

[@Ulrich.Bierwisch]

@@techfluencer9972 I checked this again to make sure: It's in the VFR-section of the Advanced User manual on page 386: •If you press the [AF ON] only before recording starts, the focus will be adjusted automatically. - You can also perform the same operation by pressing the Fn button assigned with [AF-ON]. There is a one hour live stream with Sean Robinson every Thursday on the Lumix Cameras channel. Usually there is a theme but it's also is a Q&A stream where you get answers to all the specific questions about the cameras as long as there is an official answer from Lumix available. Last week, stream came from a nice view point in Austin, TX using the new streaming features of the GH5-II, running the camera over an hour directly in the sun at 90F. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKDLZ2eLatSYj7M (Of course they can't talk about still disclosed upcoming products or rumors)

[@gcprost]

I agree. I have the GH5 Mk2 and I thing the auto focus is quite good. I have two GH5s as well. I shoot multicam live theatre, concerts, and dance shows. I use the Mk2 for close ups. The others are static shots. I really like the fact that I can power the camera by USB. If you want to do this be sure that you have a USB battery that is capable. The first time I tried this the camera shut down because I was using a standard USB battery.

[@b3naqua]

Plz do one of those 2 hour long autofocus tests where you run towards the camera back and forth, jump in and out of frame, etc thx

[@impatrickt]

LMAO

[@NITINCHAWLA]

The quality on this channel😅🔥

[@impatrickt]

🙏🙏🙏

[@shogenx]

as a sony shooter ive been looking for a solid video camera and this compared to the fx30 in sheer price vs performance left me struggling

[@hackerockmedia]

I have a G85 and I mostly use it for photography, even I always I have in mind I have to start with video... anyway, my question is did you notice much difference in terms of image quality from the G85 to the GH5? Thanks

[@impatrickt]

Yeah. GH5 is a lot better at everything.

[@godsakes]

The GH5 is definitely better as it's using the full sensor then downsampling and it has the option for 10bit codec but I personally think the g85 is more than good enough to start your journey with. If you're at that stage there's a 101 things you could invest in that'll probably make a bigger impact on your footage/production such as audio (mics/recorders), or lighting, or gimbals etc depending on your use case/projects.

[@impatrickt]

@@thewalkingvloggingman7152 no lol

[@godsakes]

@@thewalkingvloggingman7152 the G9 is worth considering... the G95/90 is a turkey, worse than the G85/80, they basically tried to pack in the GH5 sensor without upgrading the CPU to handle it and the result was massive 4k crop and worse image quality.

[@xray111xxx]

The GH6 is the big thing. The GH-5ii allows the newest firmware that goes in the G9 and S series and the GH5s. Focus is fine but the pulsing background may still bother. Block your shot and manual focus it is that critical. My G7 was bad but the newest are much better. Don't know why phase detect is not in these cameras. Then the perfect camera.

[@MarcHillM]

Just got a GHM2 to to succeed my GH5, and GH4 before. For me the GH5M2 is more of a new camera, especially if one is 50/50 stills/video. Raw stills are now 14 bit making a signicant difference in raw handling, especially in highlight recovery.

[@impatrickt]

It’s one of the worst stills cameras I’ve used but I’m glad you’re liking it

[@niltons.spagnuolo]

I have been using the GH5 for a few years. I like the image quality, the portability of the camera, the functions that make it easy to create videos. I don't like the autofocus, the low light performance. I would replace the GH5 with a camera that has reliable autofocus and performs well in low light.

[@impatrickt]

Get a Sony then.

[@JaymesMedia]

I hate when other KZbinrs talk about 10-Bit like it’s a new feature just because Canon & Sony finally adapted it into their mirrorless systems last year.

[@impatrickt]

Only the OG Lumix shooters know 10 bit is old news 😂

[@JaymesMedia]

@@impatrickt amen bro 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@VijitChandna]

Not related to GH5, but I was gonna get a used G85/G7 but the prices went up 😭thank you covid

[@mr.s4849]

I really love my G85-it’s a great camera. It lacks 4K60 and the 1080 is a low bitrate for some reason, but the ergonomics, unlimited recording limit, and the 4K30 are gorgeous. I picked up a G9 recently too, and it’s not a bad option instead of a GH5. Firmware updates make it really great at video. It has 4K60 but with recording limits all around and the buttons aren’t as good (the shutter button is soft and easy to accidentally press or not press), but a nice B-roll camera to complement camera to the G85:) Good luck-hope the prices settle down!

[@cinematicfilmsstudio8675]

Hello, where is „extrenal teleconverter” function ? In GH5 it was possibility to use ex teleconverter in movies…..why GH5m2 dosent have ?

[@impatrickt]

no clue never used it

[@cinematicfilmsstudio8675]

@@impatrickt 🧐

[@muthukumaranc]

👌

[@OurFantasyLife]

The kit lens on the S5 is probably one of the best kit lenses on the market currently.

[@impatrickt]

not quite as good as Fuji’s kit lens but still decent.

[@TechTagged]

Autofocus is pretty good. Now need to save the money

[@erikbogardi2931]

I've just gotten myself a uses GH5 a week ago for my first camera. Still debating whether it was good choice 🤔

[@impatrickt]

if it was cheap you made a great choice

[@erikbogardi2931]

@@impatrickt that's the thing what's cheap 😬

[@erikbogardi2931]

@@impatrickt £1600 with 12-60mm lumix, 25mm lumix, samyang 10mm, battery grip, and 3 memory cards. I'm way too over budget 😵

[@impatrickt]

@@erikbogardi2931 not bad! If you don’t like it look into the Lumix S5. It’s around $2k with the kit lens. Will cover you for a while.

[@erikbogardi2931]

@@impatrickt Thank you for the reply I just recently got the GH5 so will rock it for the next couple of years at least, hoping it will still stand it's ground next to newer models.

[@DennisMeetsWorld]

I have a GH5 II and it’s amazing. Used it for a full day vlog (using AF-C face tracking) and it performed amazingly. Vlog is up on my channel if you’re interested in seeing how it performed. Switching to this for a vlogging/KZbin camera coming from a Sony A6400.

[@impatrickt]

The af isn’t good enough for me.

[@DennisMeetsWorld]

@@impatrickt I just shoot vlogs and simple KZbin videos, it’s more than adequate for that. If you’re shooting anything professional then obviously you should be shooting manual focus and in that case AF shouldn’t matter to you.

[@impatrickt]

@@DennisMeetsWorld I just needed it for self filming and it didn’t cut it. It just simply isn’t reliable enough. Furthermore even in pro gigs now, especially lifestyle/doc work - autofocus is becoming crucial.

[@DennisMeetsWorld]

@@impatrickt the autofocus on the GH5 II isn’t terrible, it’s definitely improved and usable (you even say so in this video). Not sure why you talked smack about it in my vlog video (appreciate you checking it out though), it looked totally fine to me considering it was all shot using AFC. Still enjoying the GH5 II and now with the GH6 officially announced I find that it’s “too much” of a camera for my uses which is just vlogging and random KZbin videos plus that $2100 price is ridiculous for a M43 camera so I’m happy with my GH5 II for only $1000.

[@impatrickt]

@@DennisMeetsWorld If you sit and don't move... lol its fucken garbage man. You could use an iPhone for your videos and they would look better. Full stop.

[@CrisConstantin]

There is a limit in how much you can hate someone😂. Man I hate you, aaaa lot. I just bought another camera brand for YT. Where the f have you been😂😂😂. Love you man. Great talk🙏🏼

[@impatrickt]

😂😂😂

[@CrisConstantin]

@@impatrickt 🤣😂

[@gcprost]

I like the fact you can power it by USB.

[@impatrickt]

Yes I actually just set that up with my S5 too. Powered by a v mount over USB C.

[@Antonf19]

How does it look in low light?

[@impatrickt]

Same as the GH5

[@Antonf19]

@@impatrickt thanks for the quick response!

[@shaneomac151]

Got spiritual at 2:30

[@Zimvg]

I'm using a GH3....so the Mark II will be a big upgrade

[@impatrickt]

You should wait for the fall.

[@Zimvg]

@@impatrickt Maybe. It will cost more and I probably don't need 5k at 60p. I always use 24p. Looks like a nice upgrade on theGH5II. But I might wait for more specs

[@impatrickt]

@@Zimvg I really don’t recommend the GH5II unless you do live streaming

[@konsevdi]

Time is a construct and we are all going to die. So just get the GH5 II?

[@impatrickt]

Pretty much.

[@discomfort9093]

why logos are covered??

[@impatrickt]

should always cover them so they don’t reflect on products, glasses, surfaces, windows, etc.

[@TedTremendous]

THIS!! comment at 2:34 gives you a thumbs up by me :)

[@PjotrII]

As I see it (close to suggested here) is that GH-5 ii - isn´t an "upgrade" in the sense that if you have GH-5 you should buy GH-5 ii. Instead I see it as prolonging the life of the legendary GH5 by adding some features, mainly for people who buy it as a (first) new camera. When GH-6 comes in 2022, there would be 2 good cameras... the upgraded GH-5 (more affordable) and the more expensive GH-6.

[@impatrickt]

They released it because the GH6 is delayed. I don’t really think anyone should buy it.

[@PjotrII]

@@impatrickt At least one should wait for GH-6 to see what it brings. I think GH-5 will drop out of the available cameras, and be replaced with GH5-ii, which price might drop a little at GH-6 release. But let´s hope GH-6 will soon be out.

[@impatrickt]

@@PjotrII they didn’t put the dual native ISO sensor in the GH5ii which makes the GH5s probably the one that stays. With the S5 in the lineup I still think the GH5ii is a rip off.

[@freddiecauseyii9419]

Hope the gh6 has the live streaming capability.

[@impatrickt]

I’ve talked to them - hard to say. 50/50 honestly.

[@digital.mente.]

@@impatrickt It would be a big mistake not to have it

[@GregTardif]

The “hot topic” of af for Panasonic is like the equal to people complaining about the menu setup on Sony cameras. If lumix af was THAT bad it would not have been the go to for creators since they started coming out. Great video. Thanks for sharing

[@impatrickt]

Except that Sony fixed the menus.

[@GregTardif]

@@impatrickt good point. Now their af is too quick

[@impatrickt]

@@GregTardif we absolutely have to keep complaining otherwise nothing will change

[@GregTardif]

@@impatrickt I concur

[@impatrickt]

@@castielvargastv7931 yeah those are ass cameras anyways

[@clifftotten7609]

Yeah,..that AF pulsing, buzzing and wobbling just doesn't work for me. It doesn't look much better than my GH5, I don't think.

[@iComplainer]

thank goodness, il not another 4:3

[@impatrickt]

it’s coming

[@SOLIDSNAKE.]

Basically always buy the newest more expensive camera cus technology these days

[@newlifeeveryday1821]

Question from a newbie: I want to create close up videos of birds eating seed off the deck in my backyard very similar to this example ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnXVc2iZaZKWb7s ). I want to run the video camera for very long periods of time so it must resist overheating so that is why I am considering a Panasonic GH5ii but I am concerned about Panasonic's autofocus. Do you think this type of video could be created with manual focus ? Do you think the autofocus of the Panasonic GH5ii is good enough for this type of video ? ( If you think there is a better camera or camcorder option than the Panasonic GH5ii I would be grateful for any advice. I know the Sony A7Siii is also a good option but it is pretty expensive. ) Thank you for your help. PS - I would really be grateful for any advice you can give on this topic.

[@impatrickt]

even an older sony would be better. you should get something with decent auto focus.

[@joshdiditt]

If you don't already have micro 4/3 lenses, there is no reason to get a GH5II when the Panasonic S5 exists and for the same price. I always tell people, there is not a better camera for $2000 than the Panasonic S5. Especially with these great, feature rich firmware updates they keep releasing.

[@impatrickt]

Yup. Unless you really want MFT. I know people that prefer the 2x crop for zoom lens options.

[@RomeoWarden]

The S5 is a good deal but, come on there's no lenses choice... :/

[@impatrickt]

there's a plethora of lenses. there's a whole set of S prime lenses now all under $500 and F1.8. and its extremely easy to adapt lenses to L mount because Leica was using it for so long. AND you have Sigma.

[@impatrickt]

@@RomeoWarden Sony?

[@impatrickt]

@@RomeoWarden You have Canon, Meike, Leica, Nikon, and DZO as well. Also anything full frame for PL can easily be adapted. So much full frame glass that exists at various budgets you can adapt to L mount. I use FD lenses all the time with it.

[@RomeoWarden]

@@impatrickt I don't really like adapting lenses, the autofocus is not good, is it?

[@impatrickt]

@@RomeoWarden the MC-21 is great for canon lenses

[@OMGinterview]

my gh5 is still good hahaha

[@impatrickt]

is it tho