Lumix GH5 II FIRST LOOKS review vs S5 and GH5

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Gordon Laing

Gordon Laing

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@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
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@fellowcitizen
@fellowcitizen 3 жыл бұрын
Lexar ad was nicely inconspicuous, informative, and brief enough not to break the flow of the video playing at x1.25
@thedondeluxe6941
@thedondeluxe6941 3 жыл бұрын
Unlimited recording time in 10-bit 422 still makes it a winner for me!
@CheapCharlieChronicles
@CheapCharlieChronicles 3 жыл бұрын
The most amazing feature of this camera is you can do mobile live-streaming which is revolutionary as no camera on the market is capable of this (most streamers use a phone to livestream). And of course you get all the video and photo capabilities of a pro level camera (I have used the original GH5 extensively and loved it). I say this without embellishment, this camera has blown my mind.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely, the live streaming is a real highlight and if you do that kind of thing it will transform what you can achieve outside of a studio environment.
@edjefferson9175
@edjefferson9175 3 жыл бұрын
Are they first to market this feature with the GH5II?
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
@@edjefferson9175 not quite, for example the most recent Canon PowerShot G7X could do it, but I think it's the first larger sensor ILC I've seen with it.
@walrusgumboot
@walrusgumboot 3 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs that’s true, but I don’t think G7X can live steam to Facebook (only KZbin) and requires you to go through Canon’s servers. Could be wrong though
@markshirley01
@markshirley01 3 жыл бұрын
Im not sure how popular or needed this will be. Most people are quite happy with the convenience of their mobile phone. I work for a event company and I know they'll probably shrug their shoulders at this.
@Nonaxisymmetric
@Nonaxisymmetric 3 жыл бұрын
Top video. That was very thorough as always - I appreciate that you went and tested the live streaming from the beach!
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes, I really wanted to try the live streaming in a truly mobile environment!
@RonMantay
@RonMantay 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for publishing so many excellent camera reviews, Gordon! I hope you might consider publishing a video that compares the Lumix G9 to the Lumix GH5m2, especially in terms of image quality and continuous AF (video and photos). This would be helpful for people using the Lumix G85 or Lumix G9 who are contemplating an upgrade within the Lumix micro-four-thirds family.
@professionalpotato4764
@professionalpotato4764 3 жыл бұрын
The GH5ii could become quite the travel camera, when the world is back to normal at least...
@AllThingsFilm1
@AllThingsFilm1 3 жыл бұрын
I think the changes on the GH5ii make it more valuable. Although AF wise, I had the S5 and did a lot of AF tests only to be disappointed in that it was still unreliable. One day the S5 AF performed quite well. The next, it would hunt around despite no change in the subject's position or camera position. So, I would expect the same may be true of the GH5ii AF. I'm hoping the GH6 will justify it's $2.5K price. It looks promising, but, I will wait for your review before moving forward. Thanks for this video.
@AndySnap
@AndySnap 3 жыл бұрын
A very useful review! I can see that live streaming over mobile 5G being tremendously useful for journalism, live to the studio from a very compact 'OB' set-up. The launch price is £/$1000 less than the announced price for the GH6, so very cost effective too (especially when that launch price inevitably drops with time). Might be worth remembering it's a pretty handy stills camera too!
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely! The live streaming is really useful. Until now, if you wanted a good camera for live streaming, you'd be studio-bound (or lugging a lot oof gear), while mobile live streaming was limited to phones.
@zvonimirtosic6171
@zvonimirtosic6171 3 жыл бұрын
Gordon, the lenses. You are forgetting about them. Using the GH5.2 and FF S5, is wholly and a totally different game. When you add the cost and size of the FF lenses, the S5 stops making sense for many, and there is no way in the world that lenses like 10-25/1.7 will ever be available for S5. But GH5.2, with access to plenty of tiny m43 lenses, is a mobile powerhouse.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
Very good point
@MichaelSchagen
@MichaelSchagen 3 жыл бұрын
A fairer comparison would be a 20-50 f3.5. Such a lens would give the same shooting envelope, be of comparable size and probably even cheaper. The 20-60 f3.5-5.6 is 1/3 of the price of the 10-25 mft.
@zvonimirtosic6171
@zvonimirtosic6171 3 жыл бұрын
Nice try Tony. Grow a better beard next time.
@TechnoBabble
@TechnoBabble 3 жыл бұрын
While the 10-25 is an interesting focal length for a zoom the aperture is nothing special. When talking about noise levels and actual light gathering it's only a third of a stop better than an f/4 zoom on full frame and two thirds of a stop worse than an f/2.8 zoom.
@zvonimirtosic6171
@zvonimirtosic6171 3 жыл бұрын
@@TechnoBabble Do you practice your nonsense babble in front of a mirror? I suggest you stay in your bathroom, and don't come out.
@impatrickt
@impatrickt 3 жыл бұрын
ISO 4000 is the 2nd gain channel on the S5. It's so damn clean. I use it all the time.
@LE672AJ
@LE672AJ 3 жыл бұрын
All the GH6 needs is some of that buttery smooth AF in both video and photo, with perhaps a surprise vid res bump, then we’ll have a beast on our hands. I wouldn’t be surprised if it has a fan like it’s bigger brother.
@RockyColaFizz
@RockyColaFizz 3 жыл бұрын
Well. Between this, the GH6, and the new 25-50 lens. Clearly Micro 4/3rds is not dead by a long shot. Another great video Gordon. Thank You.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@markshirley01
@markshirley01 3 жыл бұрын
It'll keep a few more people who are invested in the system from moving. I still reckon its doomed long term.
@jtapia1123
@jtapia1123 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great video. I was toiling for a week over what to buy to upgrade with GH5, I have an s5 coming in the mail but I still am sure I would love the GH5ii someday when it is drastically reduced at a previously owned price maybe in a year or so
@ElfTaleFilms
@ElfTaleFilms 3 жыл бұрын
This might actually be the A7III killer, the new best camera for solo filmmaker without going bankrupt =)
@markshirley01
@markshirley01 3 жыл бұрын
I think the A73 is probably in linbo at the moment as so many people are waiting for the A74. I wonder how Sony's mid range best seller is actually doing. It surely cant be to long before they release the A74.
@veganpotterthevegan
@veganpotterthevegan 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely not. This is far too expensive for what it is considering the present competition. I'm a m43 shooter, but there are few scenarios where even a Canon R6 wouldn't be preferred over this.
@hugogutierrez2849
@hugogutierrez2849 3 жыл бұрын
I would say the A7III killer is the S5, I even got it for the same price with the kit lens and beats it in almost everything (except AF I guess)
@markshirley01
@markshirley01 3 жыл бұрын
@@hugogutierrez2849 agreed the S5 looks a great camera. If you can work with single point AF in video its a really well priced camera.
@TITAOSTEIN
@TITAOSTEIN 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll continue with my GH5 for video and will wait for the new OMD em1xii or the em1iv for photos. Late 2022 I will probably buy the GH6. The GH5ii Seems to be for many people a great choice right now. The iso performance is much better compared with the GH5
@nateo200
@nateo200 3 жыл бұрын
Subscribed! I saw your channel among a bunch of other videos and clicked on a video randomly and so far I enjoy your thorough reviews! I often want to know every single minor detail as well as a camera's max potential so I appreciate thorough reviews!
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, that's what I aim for!
@edjefferson9175
@edjefferson9175 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for not interrupting this excellent presentation with stupid ads. My next SD card will be Lexar! That live streaming to phone hotspot could be a serious game changer for live news feeds. Question - around the 5 minute mark there is a still graphic of a camera labeled GH6. Is that an actual representation?
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
The photo of the GH6 was provided by Panasonic - it's the only imagery they've given so far, and there's no actual camera yet for me to photograph. It may be an illustration, but I think it looks real.
@vermaatroel
@vermaatroel 3 жыл бұрын
Why didnt you test the IBIS?
@borderlands6606
@borderlands6606 3 жыл бұрын
An advertisement for a product that's relevant to the video - there's a turn up! The GH5 and GH5II are about £1k cheaper than the predicted GH6 price. Makes the S5 a bit of a steal with raw video output.
@mannypvd2296
@mannypvd2296 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really excited for m43!!! Lenses still the best deal. S5 and gh5ii have Similar price points for body but the lenses for FF are insane!!!
@mchlhth
@mchlhth 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic overview, Gordon, and thanks for being one of the few who actually showed the live streaming function in action! I’m wondering how you feel about Chris and Jordan’s conclusion over at DPReview TV, that this Mark II is more about updating the processing to enable future updates, thus squeezing more out of existing (and admittedly aging) hardware. I think that dovetails into my argument for Micro Four Thirds, where I feel the sensors and lenses are fine, but updating the processing could help keep the system relevant.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
As the big new feature, I think it's important to demonstrate the live streaming in a review. I think Jordan made a very good point abut the new processor being used to extend the life of this series with support for all the new features and enhancements they develop. It basically keeps the GH5 line relevant going forward, while the GH6 can occupy the higher-end.
@artistjoh
@artistjoh 3 жыл бұрын
I am hoping for a Mark II version of the GH5S. I like this update and I have been planning to buy a GH5S this year.
@Alexrocks1253
@Alexrocks1253 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Gordon! I always like how in depth you go into the camera reviews with a calm nature and talk about the things that matter to the audience of the camera rather than just stating all the flashy features. Cheers :)
@wcclyne
@wcclyne 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gordon for such a quick review.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@MrChangTH
@MrChangTH 3 жыл бұрын
What reason can there be they not they go for the gh5s sensor, to much work for a Mark 2? I feel like the gh6 must preform at least same as the gh5s in low light situations, if not I think its good night for Lumix... 🕵
@denialvanish
@denialvanish 3 жыл бұрын
Best, most comprehensive review so far. There's one thing I cannot find an answer on, though: Did Panasonic update the HDMI spec on the GH5II to enable open-gate ("6k") over the HDMI cable? This isn't possible on the GH5 because it's stuck with the earlier HDMI spec that won't allow more than 4k.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
I might be wrong but I don't think it does, and sadly there's no RAW over HDMI either at the full sensor res.
@yawningmarmot
@yawningmarmot 2 жыл бұрын
This is possibly one of the most comprehensive reviews of the streaming feature on the GH5 II I've seen! Do you find that the GH5 II has better preamps than the GH5? Your GH5 II audio sounded quite a bit cleaner than the audio I get on my GH5 with the same mic.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't done any technical analysis of the pre-amps, sorry!
@yawningmarmot
@yawningmarmot 2 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs No worries, I appreciate the reply!
@AoyagiAichou
@AoyagiAichou 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Gordon, thanks for the video, especially that S5 comparison! Although it looks like there was more NR in the GH5M2 shots. Could you tell us what AF settings were you using for each segment?
@JDW-
@JDW- 3 жыл бұрын
Gordon, with all the fancy new stream features, one would think Panasonic should have also improved WIFI streaming with a mobile phone and the Panasonic app. But is that true? More specifically, when I use the Panasonic app with my GH5, resolution is low, and when shooting HLG, brightness is very low too. But the biggest problem of all is that once I've recorded something, when I later want to play it back on my iPhone using the Panasonic app, the resolution is very low, audio loses sync with video, and sometimes the video stops altogether. I certainly hope they have address that, because I use that feature all the time to start and stop recording of my GH5 when I film myself seated from a good distance from the camera. If they can make "streaming" work as good as I saw in your video, surely WIFI streaming should be better too. I'd love to hear if the GH5II addresses that.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
good questions...
@amermeleitor
@amermeleitor 3 жыл бұрын
M4/3 Is a very mature system. There are a lot of lenses and cameras in the used market that can go very very cheap. I think going in m4/3 is a good opportunity to get good specs with little money. Even m4/3 low end cameras with two lenses bundle can be bought very cheap. I know maybe they aren't image quality level of Sony or Canon full frame mirrorless or Fuji medium format and m4/3 never be that good. But in price / quality ratio the system is very good.
@jacknicholasny
@jacknicholasny 2 жыл бұрын
My on camera monitor on my S5 gets no signal in playback mode only. It works fine in Live View mode. Any idea why? Thanks.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 2 жыл бұрын
it'll be one of yuor HDMi settings that need adjusting.
@mcronfpv8736
@mcronfpv8736 3 жыл бұрын
I'm super interested in the live streaming fonction if you can record at the same time. Can you shoot UHD and stream at the same time ? If not I really hope the GH6 will be able to do it... It would be a game changer for me : i'm shooting sport events and would love to offer short live streams while recording, for example at the start of the race, or when i'm following the head of the race.
@mcronfpv8736
@mcronfpv8736 3 жыл бұрын
I got my answer from imaging-resource.com review (great review btw) : Internal recording not allowed while streaming. But recording via hdmi possible while wirelessly streaming (so I guess i could record to a ninja v while live streaming... )
@Norain1992
@Norain1992 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, For the outdoor Live Streaming, how much upload speed is needed? Is 5Mbs enough for lag-free streaming?
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
Depends on the quality you want, res, frame rate etc, the streaming scales to the bandwidth you have.
@ryantang8146
@ryantang8146 3 жыл бұрын
The quality of the live streaming seems to be quite good.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
It was, although I had to capture the stream using a screen recording as YT would only let me download a 720p version. Bottom line, it actually looks a bit better in practice.
@longrider9551
@longrider9551 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Gordon a little unrelated but your one of 2 or 3 I trust for accurate information, will you be testing the new Tamron 11-20 2.8 for Sony e-mount apsc?
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to, but don't have much contact with Tamron. Thomas reviews all their full-frame models on the cameralabs.com website though.
@neilhenderson1766
@neilhenderson1766 3 жыл бұрын
if im also using it for photography would you go with the s5??? i mainly do real estate and hotels
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, for photos, the S5 is a better body plus you can get that great 20-60 zoom which is ideal for interiors.
@SuperSuperka
@SuperSuperka 3 жыл бұрын
*Still would be nice to see downloadable V-Log 4K 4:2:2 10 bit from S5 on Vimeo*
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
not sure if I have that file anymore, sorry!
@briansquibb2127
@briansquibb2127 3 жыл бұрын
It is worth noting that the light weight of mft lens and camera is very usefull for the workers and the not so strong - compare the weight of a full frame plus 600mm lends (or even a 150-600). Keep up the good work :=) How does it compare with the G9 for photo and fil,?
@Alexrocks1253
@Alexrocks1253 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think that this camera would work well for filmmaking and travel photography?
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it's designed for that
@Alexrocks1253
@Alexrocks1253 3 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs thanks Gordon!
@Elina.Itzhaki.Art.Studio
@Elina.Itzhaki.Art.Studio 3 жыл бұрын
Hello mate I got the gh5 and I had a 12-60 mm lens HES12060 and the lens broke me at the base. Which two lenses would recommend for photos and video . I'm unprofessional. Thanks for an answer.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
How about the new Olympus 8-25mm I recently reviewed, plus a Lumix G 42.5mm f1.7 for portraits and bokeh?
@SkonrokkenTV
@SkonrokkenTV 3 жыл бұрын
That was a great review! S5 owner, and happy with it, but if I was a m43 owner I would wait. Biggest upgrade was the livestreaming. Then again that could be a pretty big upgrade for some people. Keep it up with the reviews! Great and informative!
@CorLievendag
@CorLievendag 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your nice review! I am deciding between the S5 and this GH5ii. Do you know if the GH5ii has Focus Transition? The S5 doesn’t have it as far as I know.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure, sorry
@CorLievendag
@CorLievendag 3 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs ok thanks!
@mikaelwardhana2839
@mikaelwardhana2839 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Gordon, thanks for the awesome review as always. Just a suggestion. Could you please add thorough dynamic range test for video on your comparison review? Like the one on CineD with the xyla21 chart. I think this is a very important information comparing video centric cameras like these ones.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
I do have all the charts, but I try to avoid them as I find them boring, plus others are doing them, so the results are available elsewhere. i try to present and show something different in mine, although I admit this one had more charts than I'd have liked.
@mikaelwardhana2839
@mikaelwardhana2839 3 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs thanks G. Maybe just touch on the subject as a quick glance? I understand it is an irrelevant test for most photo centric cameras. But maybe just do it specifically for some cameras like the S1H or Sony A7SIII or GH5/6 series as people buy them to do video. And the dynamic range and latitude of a video camera is arguably the most important feature why people buy certain video camera. Thanks again for the excellent work:) Just dropped you a thank you on paypal.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikaelwardhana2839 I did show some grading in the video, and try to include something similar in all my new movie-centric reviews
@woutschelstraete3393
@woutschelstraete3393 3 жыл бұрын
Can you check if the GH5 Mark2 is able to output HDMI and USCB while showing the image on the LCD screen? For example with the RS2 and a Ninja V or the Raveneye. Now I'm using the GH5 and as soon as I plug in the HDMI and the usbc the LCD Screen turns black. Would love to hear from you
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
Can I confirm what you'd be using the USBC output for?
@woutschelstraete3393
@woutschelstraete3393 3 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs To connect to my DJI Ronin S2
@kay__519
@kay__519 3 жыл бұрын
Should of used gh5s sensor with ibis atleast
@MrRaychard123
@MrRaychard123 3 жыл бұрын
i still remember watching Gordon Laing channel way back when he was reviewed canon 400D , makes me sad he still get only sub 200k subscribers
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
Makes me sad too. 15 years I've been doing this!
@MrRaychard123
@MrRaychard123 3 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs I guess most people are more interested with those flashy intros and over used of slow mo and click bait titiles
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
@@EE-bv7ni thanks!
@TITAOSTEIN
@TITAOSTEIN 3 жыл бұрын
Quality matters more than quantity! Other channels love clowning and sensationalism and attract a suitable audience… Gordon is the best and has the better audience! :)
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
@@TITAOSTEIN thanks!
@soundknight
@soundknight 3 жыл бұрын
Need a G10, a GX8mkii...
@TerenceKearns
@TerenceKearns 3 жыл бұрын
Use a tool to edit the exif data if you want to use the raw files in Lightroom etc.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
Yes BUT that assumes the RAW files are identical. if the new camera has any new processing or handling inside, treating it as a RAW file from an older model could cause issues or at best negate any improvements. So yes, it will let you open some new RAW files in emergency but I wouldn't use it for evaluation.
@TerenceKearns
@TerenceKearns 3 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs yeah fair enough. One does have to be careful. Mileage will vary.
@TerenceKearns
@TerenceKearns 3 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs fair point.
@johnclay7644
@johnclay7644 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative review on the gh5 II.
@TheFaustianMan
@TheFaustianMan 3 жыл бұрын
WOW THE GH5 I looks better than the II and even has more detail being resolved! In the grey areas the ii completely eradicates the imperfections in the corners. I guess it's the algorithm for smoothing.
@humanatlargeonearth2717
@humanatlargeonearth2717 3 жыл бұрын
I have 2 S1s and a S1H. I used to have a GH5S and some G85s so I still have a bunch of glass. I think I'm gonna wait for the GH6.
@xpavement
@xpavement 3 жыл бұрын
Were you using autofocus on the couch? The books on top look to be pulsing just like the original GH5 suffers from.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
yep, sadly.
@kevinharris8094
@kevinharris8094 3 жыл бұрын
Great informative film Gordon. I was going to buy a GH5 earlier in the year and then didn't, so now I find myself at the start of September waiting on the GH6 I think? ...Or considering an S5. This MK2 is a great looking and capable camera, but you have raised some good points when it put alongside a similar price point Full Frame S5. I will be using it primarily for video work. Any thoughts welcomed. :-)
@nerdMike
@nerdMike 3 жыл бұрын
Lumix G9 II well refined like this new GH5 at a fair price w'd be a great m4/3 stills camera, there will be GH6 and maybe new m4/3 generation but for the moment can be a nice refresh not only for the GH5, I hope so.
@prefislt
@prefislt 3 жыл бұрын
Lumix G9 getting 2.4 firmware update with improved AF and other GH5 II features. I think G9 have updated processor that GH5 II got, older GH5 model doesn't and that's why they released new model.
@nerdMike
@nerdMike 3 жыл бұрын
@@prefislt G9 btw after reading the 2.4 changelog still lacks of "AF Custom Settings (Video)" feature like on any other Lumix, to me the most needed feature, you can't control AF behavior (sens/speed) during the video. Apart from the improved AF algorithm we need this option to use at its best the autofocus during the video recording. GH5 has the option, same for S5, S1, even the G80 but not on the G9 considering its potential.
@NatsWright
@NatsWright 3 жыл бұрын
Great review and this is a very compelling camera. Mainly so because of the live streaming option, the ability to do this, pretty much anywhere is a great idea. I wonder, how will competitors respond? Do you think, say, the X-T4 or A7c would get a firmware update? Will the heat and recording limits of the X-T4 be an issue, maybe the X-S10 may be updated? Lastly, the S5, being around the same price point, would this be a camera that could be updated? Either way, I'd definitely be interested in the GH5 II. The GH6 may be a better camera in the long run, but it is also going to cost a lot more. Interesting play by panasonic, this is a reasonable upgrade by the sounds of things.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure exactly what's involved in the live streaming. Obviously the phones can do it, and most camera apps can display a live image from the camera on the phone, so maybe these just need to work together... I expect Canon might try it first as the latest G7X can already stream over Wifi direct.
@pauloancarvalho
@pauloancarvalho 3 жыл бұрын
Not to forget S5 supports ProRes Raw video, while the GH5 II don't. For that reason alone, I prefer the GH5S over the GH5 II right now.
@iSpike
@iSpike 3 жыл бұрын
Such a Detailed review, thanks. Cheers from Western Australia
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@leric4205
@leric4205 3 жыл бұрын
S'il vous plait Gordon, faites nous une vidéo test du Nikon Z5 + Nikkor Z 24-200 mm. Please Gordon, give us a test video of the Nikon Z5 + Nikkor Z 24-200mm. Tank you !!!
@christophehanon8396
@christophehanon8396 3 жыл бұрын
Good review, I think it should have been released at least a year ago. Reviewers seem more positive on GH5II than on the S5 concerning AF...
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
They seemed similar to me.
@OurFantasyLife
@OurFantasyLife 3 жыл бұрын
If you use the S5 in APS-C mode, the AF performance is about the same.
@Modiford
@Modiford 3 жыл бұрын
I agonised over purchasing the G7. Now that's no longer in production, I'm now torn between the GH5 and the S5. Your review, though the best and finer detailed I have watched so far, has not helped my indecision!! It's not like it's really a choice based on cost.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
Do you want to stick with M43 or go full frame?
@Modiford
@Modiford 3 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs I do not currently have a foot in either camp! All I presently own is a Canon Legria R306 from 2013 and it's not the best at its intended purpose. Working in tech Panasonic is a brand I recognise and trust, so very much looking to them for the purchase. 'Auto Focus' aside, the reviews are always favourable (plus my hatred of Sony prevails). Having spoken to my local (and only) photographic retailer, looks like the choice might be one of availability over any price, precision or performance decision.
@Modiford
@Modiford 3 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs upon reading many 'GH5 vs S5' reviews, I'm leaning towards the GH5, albeit per your video, the GH5 mk II. Thanks for taking the time to produce these informative videos :-)
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
@@Modiford you're very welcome! If you end up ordering online, please do consider checking prices via my links here or at cameralabs.com thanks!
@Modiford
@Modiford 3 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs I ordered from our only local photographic retailer and it arrived just today. This is just to say there is a special offer until the end of August for early bird adopters to get a free lens and battery when registering.
@Bombatron
@Bombatron 3 жыл бұрын
The text of the book behind you is “pulsing” like crazy (throughout the video). I cannot believe that Panasonic is sticking by the DFD focus technology. It clearly does not work too well, and new iterations of their releases are not addressing the issue. I really wanted to love Panasonic, however, their refusal to address this key issue is quite offputting.
@a13bkd62
@a13bkd62 3 жыл бұрын
As an owner and user of the G9, I have to say the DFD system seems to work really well and honestly when I swapped with my mates EM1x can honestly report that I really could not see the 'key issue' you refer to. I am just a hobbyist and not much of a gear-head but for me the biggest difference was not the af (although the specific birding upgrade is cool) but the massively superior viewfinder of the G9. Clearly I am only able to reference the EM1x so my experience may not reflect well against other bodies.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I noticed that too. To be fair, it was pre-production, but we have also seen this on other Lumix bodies. I'd probably shoot manual focus if I was using it. The video quality is still very good.
@MusabTahaTarik
@MusabTahaTarik Ай бұрын
the practicality of live streaming is way below of osmo pocket 3, nowadays . with a wireless mic you can deal with audio issues also in osmo
@cameralabs
@cameralabs Ай бұрын
To be fair, this predates the Osmo Pocket 3, but I agree that it beats almost everything for vlogging tasks - I use one all the time for my new Travel Tips channel!
@josephasghar
@josephasghar 3 жыл бұрын
Why buy a mkii when the GH6 has already been announced?
@crsk1567
@crsk1567 3 жыл бұрын
€£$
@nightdonutstudio
@nightdonutstudio 3 жыл бұрын
one will be able to purchase in a month. another will be officially announced in December, and be able to purchase in 2022. Besides some people might just need a good 4k camera no need for 6k. then GH5 II is perfect.
@kifley19
@kifley19 3 жыл бұрын
GH5II = 647g. A7SIII = 614g. Sony also has a bunch of light affordable zooms and primes. If you can afford the A7SIII, it's better to get that.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
The A7S III is a fantastic video camera, but costs $3500, so double the price of the GH5 II - it's a completely different class. Plus it doesn't have that live streaming option either.
@clarke.inverary
@clarke.inverary 3 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs bingo
@EoTRrecorder
@EoTRrecorder 3 жыл бұрын
The most underwhelming camera model progression since Canon updated the 600D with the 650D.
@JonackFilm
@JonackFilm 3 жыл бұрын
For me is the S5 the winner because low light :) I also did a video about these both cameras :)
@sunflowerdeath
@sunflowerdeath 3 жыл бұрын
whaaaat GH5-II wooow
@_Sisyphus
@_Sisyphus 3 жыл бұрын
1st for the 1st look. Glad Gordon has the task of telling us all about it.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to be here for you!
@RestorationAustralia
@RestorationAustralia 3 жыл бұрын
Superb, great improvements.
@kuau714
@kuau714 3 жыл бұрын
Is the GH5S now dead?
@clarke.inverary
@clarke.inverary 3 жыл бұрын
No still has an update on June.
@DennisMeetsWorld
@DennisMeetsWorld 2 жыл бұрын
I have a GH5 II and it’s amazing. Used it for a full day vlog (using AF-C face tracking) and it performed amazingly. Vlog is up on my channel if you’re interested in seeing how it performed. Switching to this for a vlogging/KZbin camera coming from a Sony A6400.
@ultort
@ultort 3 жыл бұрын
The autofocus on the book in the background is very distracting to me me, I'm not even on a big screen. Panasonic cameras have good video features but really lack a more reliable phase detection based autofocus.
@andersistbesser
@andersistbesser 3 жыл бұрын
bla bla bla bla. i use the gh5 since 2018 and i never had problems with the autofocus. gh5 is very good value for what it can do. no sony or canon cam in that price range can do 4k60 10 bit and no sony at that price has all the features the gh5 has not to mention the lousy ibis in sony cameras..
@Gabriel-jg5wh
@Gabriel-jg5wh 3 жыл бұрын
@@andersistbesser facts. i have the gh5 for over 2 years and i have never had any autofocus problems with it aswell. was planning to buy the a7siii but gh6 coming dawg!!!
@andersistbesser
@andersistbesser 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gabriel-jg5wh if you dont need the low light king and younare happy with mft the gh6 is the way to go, especially for its price. I am very excited for the gh6
@TechnoBabble
@TechnoBabble 3 жыл бұрын
@@andersistbesser Nice anecdote, but in this video you can clearly see the downsides of the autofocus system that Panasonic is using. It doesn't matter how amazing the video specs are if you need autofocus that you can trust 100%.
@newlifeeveryday1821
@newlifeeveryday1821 3 жыл бұрын
Question from a newbie: I want to create close up videos of birds eating seed off the deck in my backyard very similar to this example ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnXVc2iZaZKWb7s ). I want to run the video camera for very long periods of time so it must resist overheating so that is why I am considering a Panasonic GH5ii but I am concerned about Panasonic's autofocus. Do you think this type of video could be created with manual focus ? Do you think the autofocus of the Panasonic GH5ii is good enough for this type of video ? ( If you think there is a better camera or camcorder option than the Panasonic GH5ii I would be grateful for any advice. I know the Sony A7Siii is also a good option but it is pretty expensive. ) Thank you for your help.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
Birds in that situation move so quickly, you'll never autofocus on them, especially using video, so in that video the lens was manually focused on the area where the seeds were, as that's where the birds would land. So what you want is a system which can record uninterrupted for long periods AND has affordable big lenses. GH5 could be a good choice.
@newlifeeveryday1821
@newlifeeveryday1821 3 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs Thank you for your help
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
@@newlifeeveryday1821 no problem, I'd get the Leica 100-400 to go with it.
@newlifeeveryday1821
@newlifeeveryday1821 3 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs Thank you for the advice. Do you think the example video I sent you is using such a high powered zoom lens ? ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnXVc2iZaZKWb7s ) ? Is that how they are getting such a close up picture ? Another things I don't really understand is how they are recording such excellent sound of the birds landing and taking off. Do you think the camera and mic are only a few feet from the seed pile ? ( also what do you think of using the 12-60mm f2.8-4.0 leica lens for this project ? or maybe a 35mm or 50mm prime ? )
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
@@newlifeeveryday1821 how far away will the camera be? If you want birds that big, you'd be about 50cm away with a 50mm lens. If you're operating the camera, you'll ideally need a telephoto zoom of some description. If you can leave the camera unattended on the platform, you could operate it by remote control using your phone. And yes, you'd need a mic positioned close to where they land, or use the camera's own mics if the camera is close.
@yuidfbse
@yuidfbse 3 жыл бұрын
God, this has got to be the most boring camera realease of the year.. what's even the point? Thanks for the review as always Gordon😊
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
The live streaming part is fun, check that out!
@palwindersingh9678
@palwindersingh9678 3 жыл бұрын
Not so surprisingly, I guess, S5 still blows GH5 II away thanks its bigger sensor size.
@billyblue689
@billyblue689 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen side by side comparisons between GH5S and S5. If anything the former looked better but that could have been due to the lenses. Full frame has become extremely overrated.
@DSP1337
@DSP1337 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my god, the DFD CDAF wobble is back. And it is as unusable as ever. Thanks for nothing, Panasonic. I'll wait for the A7SIII prices to drop and get one to replace my GH5 as my run & gun A-cam.
@breadyegg
@breadyegg 3 жыл бұрын
Why does Pana persist with it? It's like making a cake with beetroots. You can kind of make it work and I'm sure it's very clever, but wouldn't it be better to just use chocolate instead?
@UnicornRiderNarresh
@UnicornRiderNarresh 3 жыл бұрын
A beautiful farewell to Legendary Monarch GH5 by son GH5 II . He is going to rule by extending empire with built in streaming. 😘😘😘
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds very majestic!
@MichaelGerrard
@MichaelGerrard 3 жыл бұрын
M43 Lives!
@natashanicole7408
@natashanicole7408 3 жыл бұрын
Needed at least 10bit 4:2:2 internally - combine this with the AF and it’s just trash
@michaelwhiles5282
@michaelwhiles5282 3 жыл бұрын
I wish Pana luck - 43 is dying and their FF is DOA. Nothing against a quality company but I can't see much of a future for either of their systems. Sorry Gordon - great review.
@jamesshort6856
@jamesshort6856 3 жыл бұрын
Mft is still going strong, and a great budget option for many people. The ff cameras are some of the best on the market. Gtfo
@magnusgotander7788
@magnusgotander7788 3 жыл бұрын
Totaly agree about your thaughts.😉
@KeithsTVHD1
@KeithsTVHD1 3 жыл бұрын
I luv my flying camera.
@leric4205
@leric4205 3 жыл бұрын
Extra Gordon ;)
@VynZography
@VynZography 3 жыл бұрын
On Sonys, I hate the ugly orange ring. On these new Panasonics I hate the new red rings. I own one of each.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe a black sharpie is in order?
@VynZography
@VynZography 3 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs HAHAH that's a great idea!
@GregorMima
@GregorMima 3 жыл бұрын
Mild update aka mega price bump, 1k vs. 1700 USD... Thank you, but no thank you lol.no PD AF... Pana.. You failed again lol. D. O. A.
@GinoFoto
@GinoFoto 3 жыл бұрын
Frankly, nowadays everyone who interested in a new Panasonic system camera should stretch the budget up to full-frame S5, as GH5II just can't match its performance.
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 3 жыл бұрын
native lens selection.
@TechnoBabble
@TechnoBabble 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tigerex966 While there are certainly less on L-mount, it's not like there's important or common focal lengths for other systems that it doesn't have.
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 3 жыл бұрын
@@TechnoBabble True, and there are adapters for canon, etc., I wish there was a way those with m43 lens could adapt them with an adapter to the AL mount system, but I am not sure if that is possible.
@m0nztam0nk
@m0nztam0nk 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man...that pulsing background in the intro section...this af-system just needs to go...
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
If you were using this for static pieces to camera, like this, I'd probably set it to manual focus and rely on the depth of field to keep me in focus. But I wanted to show what happens in continuous AF.
@Wave_Drop
@Wave_Drop 3 жыл бұрын
@gordon laing if it wasn't for you Gordon, I wouldn't have liked the camera. Thank you
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to be of service! What was it that turned your opinion?
@Wave_Drop
@Wave_Drop 3 жыл бұрын
@@cameralabs Communicating and reviewing a product is not a small business and more and more often I realize that few can afford to do it in a professional manner as you do. As for the Lumix, beyond the small, but still important, improvements, the biggest news is certainly the new wireless live streaming function directly from the camera. Nevertheless, I won't buy one. I'd rather wait for the GH6.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wave_Drop thanks, I'm glad you appreciate my approach - it's hard work, but I want to get as much as possible across.
@paololarocca7684
@paololarocca7684 3 жыл бұрын
these cameras are so interesting.....
@TheThaiLife
@TheThaiLife 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and content but this camera is the disappointment of the decade as I suspect the GH6 will be.
@kynio8007
@kynio8007 3 жыл бұрын
Super😃👌
@procolor3782
@procolor3782 3 жыл бұрын
Panasonic 👎👎👎👎
@SullyCortez
@SullyCortez 3 жыл бұрын
What a joke…. Two years and THIS?!! Hahahahaha glad I stepped away from cameras and photography for two years just to see this ridiculous trash
@raksh9
@raksh9 3 жыл бұрын
Photography didn't miss you, either.
@yaseenkateeb5503
@yaseenkateeb5503 3 жыл бұрын
رائع جدا
@julienmerelli2191
@julienmerelli2191 3 жыл бұрын
not very usefull and very expensive!! it's big, heavy, and only 400$ less than the S5... and in some months the A7 III will cost less than 2000$ so the GH5 II doesn't interest me at all...
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