Panel Question Leads To Destiny Getting Into Triggering Debate

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[@ScreamingSturmovik]

when your so proud of your country you can only compare it to developing countries

[@UltraEgoMc]

Europe isn’t a developing country

[@mylesG23]

He's referring to the guy arguing with destiny. The only countries he could compare the US to were third world shitholes in south america. Not any other western, wealthy country@@UltraEgoMc

[@ScreamingSturmovik]

@@UltraEgoMc what Muskie said at least someone understands

[@John_Lee_]

you're*

[@FatherManus]

“Developing” is a euphemism. These countries aren’t developing, most of them are only a few decades younger than the United States. A developing country is a country that’s being built and settled right now, not a country that’s been established for over a hundred years. And the United States was far more developed than these countries at the same time in their respective histories. Second, the United States is better than any European country in multiple metrics: wealth, economy, military, biodiversity, land mass, resources, technological advancements, medical advancements, world influence, cultural influence, etc. There is a reason people come from all over the world to come live here and we don’t have a mass exodus of Americans leaving. We have a country that is better in multiple ways than any other country on the planet. All you can do is cherry pick a couple of metrics than we may not be the absolute best in. And to do so would be forgetting that the only reason our allies can focus their resources on those metrics is because we guarantee their security with our military and influence.

[@SmartDave60]

SOS says at 25 he was broke living on his buddy’s couch. What he doesn’t tell you is he was able to land a scholarship to one of Miami's top private high schools, and that he’d earned a BS degree Communication and Business from Florida State University. So he wasn’t just some failed broke comic w/ nothing else to offer. He’d been provided a wonderful education (that he took advantage of) and most likely provided useful connections during his career. It’s not ONLY about busting your ass. It’s about opportunities.

[@thomaskiltie9587]

well to be fair, he would probably counter with those opportunities only existing for him because he was in America. He DID continuously claim America was the only country rife with opportunity.

[@SmartDave60]

@@thomaskiltie9587 he’s selling the story that he was one of many broke young men and he worked his way through it thanks to America. Not every broke young man is gonna have his level of education and connections. Looking at his background SOS was on a great trajectory regardless.

[@OnkyoGrady]

I actually agree with your overall point, that background certainly helped him succeed. But...that field, cold calling for a financial firm, isn't a college degree gatekeeper situation, which makes his personal example massively less annoying. True you eventually need to take a certification exam to progress, but that's a sign up, study and take it affair. The other most common blue collar hero opportunity like this is car sales. There's no degree or skill training needed initially, and you can transition from either into the very lucrative higher levels of each industry if you succeed. Success in either can bring you to 6 figures relatively quickly most importantly.

[@SmartDave60]

@@thomaskiltie9587 and what amount of wealth was he expecting to have at 25?

[@kangaroomax8198]

The oppurtunities come from busting your ass. He didn't get that scholarship offer for no reason - you have to work for it and get good grades. You don't get useful connections out of the sky - you have to make them through your effort.

[@Swaggattack71]

I hate the “you *can* be rich” argument. 99% of people won’t be and it’s not “victim mentality” to point that out

[@giorgisabashvili2664]

but 1% will be, therefore you can. being rich is inherently exclusive. how can you put 99% in the 1%? that's insane logic and it's going in circles. america is the wealthiest nation and it got there by exploiting the immigrants who come there or are trafficked(no labor laws apply to immigrants who come illegally which is both blessing and a curse, literal slave is a better competitor than the protected laborer as a worker) and then immigrants exploit the tax dollars + subsidies and the system of state capitalism perpetuates and grows. people come to america because america is both rich and gives out subsidies, same as europe. it's the reason people would rather live in switzerland than france, or germany or sweden. proximity does make a big factor but people gravitate towards wealth and wealth is created by exploitation. it's a perverse dance really, "cant love others if you cant love yourself first" mentality turned into a political argument

[@kangaroomax8198]

99% of Americans already ARE rich compared to the rest of the world. We have more choice in term of food, jobs, clothes, our passport is one of the strongest if not the strongest in the world, we're the country least at risk of invasion, and so on. The value of America is in what you CAN do by applying yourself. The upper limit is almost limitless.

[@romnesia7729]

​@@kangaroomax8198 🤭

[@FatherManus]

It's not just that you can be rich. You can be rich almost anywhere. It's that you have access to so many things even when you aren't rich that can make your life comfortable. Modern conveniences are available to everyone, even the poor. You don't appreciate it because you don't have any idea how life is outside of a first world country. There is a reason people will risk their lives by swimming across several miles of ocean or walk through the desert for a chance to get here.

[@roguis3451]

@@FatherManus Yeah but the people that risk their lives to get to america do so because its their only option. if you had to choose between being homeless in america or being homeless in germany or netherlands, youd be way better in those european countries

[@mizel101]

I love how he tried to run his stupid "judge a resturant by the line outside" line, but no one on the panel gave him the answer he wanted because they have better metrics

[@angryretailbanker5103]

And I’ll tell ya, if you use foreign transit, they have better bathrooms than we do here.

[@travisoshea]

Yea that was a beyond stupid analogy. He even took that from PBD, verbatim

[@yolkthosenuts]

Amsterdam public transit was amazing and it's not even the #1 rated pub transit in europe

[@violet-vibe]

mans really said "how bout the line" as if people never got in line to see an overrated artist or something

[@roebuckmckinney]

The ultimate Miami dipshit answer. “ oh that place is obnoxiously packed and I’ll never get in, must be awesome.”

[@marioramblino3214]

According to this logic my local Applebee's must be the shit cause there is a line out the door every weekend

[@tornadre]

This is a good point because that is his logic but I agree with that logic., but Adam wouldn’t. Applebees is “the shit” because it is popular, time tested, and makes money. But Adam probably wouldn’t think that Applebees is the shit because he wouldn’t be consistent in his own logic. Even more obvious name any “woke” media that’s super popular, he wouldn’t bite the bullet, but by our society and it’s popularity, it is “the shit”

[@MrJayb76]

you're not answering the question, why is there a line at all if according to Destiny... america sucks

[@marioramblino3214]

@@MrJayb76 destiny never said that

[@kangaroomax8198]

I mean...Applebees is unironically the shit. That is exactly why people line up for it.

[@plutotech]

You must stay in a small town.

[@KarolCzech51]

“You pay 50% in taxes and you get free healthcare, whoopty doo.” I can’t believe he said that with a straight face. He looked at free healthcare in the face and acted like it’s a bad thing. Clown.

[@LoudWaffle]

Sadly that sentiment is the common one among Americans. The Red Scare legitimately mindbroke them, they can't imagine the state helping citizens without it being a communist totalitarian fascist regime in return. Super fun fact in relation to this: In 2021, the U.S. spent 17.8 percent of gross domestic product (GDP) on health care, nearly twice as much as the average OECD country. Health spending per person in the U.S. was nearly two times higher than in the closest country, Germany, and four times higher than in South Korea. ["U.S. Healthcare from Global Perspective," Gunja, Gumas, and Williams, 2022.]

[@colelewis9940]

"50% in taxes" "free" You can't really be that stupid

[@Shervind]

It's not free. Taxes are paid by everyone.

[@TheFatAssCat]

​@@Shervindno duh, hence the "pay 50% taxes" that preceded it...

[@SRR-5657]

Giving away 50% of your money for something doesn't make it free you moron. If you're a parent and you spend half your money on your kid, then the cost of raising a kid isn't "free".

[@trokolisz3702]

Judging a restaurant by the line is such a backwards concept, you can get a line at any restaurant with low costs and shit service. The only thing that matter is the food and price.

[@trokolisz3702]

Its the same mentality as: expensive = better

[@cluelessclown6562]

I've been to so many amazing restaurants where there were always empty seats. It's such a bad argument

[@jek4837]

​@@cluelessclown6562If it's so amazing, why aren't there more people eating there then?

[@cluelessclown6562]

​@@jek4837there's a lot of factors to that for instance how big the city or town is If it's not a big city it's very unlikely it will be full of people. But the food is still out of this world. I've been in vacation to a fairly small and reserved resort. Has like 20 houses or something and has 1 restaurant. I always find a sit there. There's always a lot of people but pretty much always you find a sit and don't have to wait. It's one of the best restaurants I've ever been to. The food quality is just insane Another factor could be the marketing and advertisment of the restaurant. You can have really good food, but just not a lot of people know about it. Or the location in the city. Is it easy to find, would people travelt here to try it? There's so many cases where a restaurant can have insanely good food, but just not be that popular to have waiting lines

[@gridlock82]

Another example , I can run a terrible restaurant with terrible food and terrible service , but if I somehow get Kanye west to show up, the line would be out the door , that doesn’t mean I’m a successful business man , or that my business is successful

[@mizkomunikation9478]

Wow. Adam got toe tagged in this debate. The question was about great accomplishments by the USA in recent history, and Adam’s only answer was to say, “I was broke and now I’m rich!” This was a good example of why shows like this are useless for advice related to money. People who can help you make money use facts and logic. People who only rely on feel good anecdotes are just trying to sell you something.

[@lilstevechan8427]

Adam also makes his money by selling a lifestyle to people iwho will never achieve it. It's pure copium .The only reason he still has fans is because they consider themselves temporarily broke millionaires.

[@EasilyCringed]

"Toe tagged" stop tryba incorporatr your weird divestor lingo 😂

[@thomasbeard3931]

The idea that there’s a lot of Europeans that want to live in America is completely wild to any European

[@LoudWaffle]

Very typical American self-centeredness. I'm from Canada and America is unironically one of the countries I would least want to ever end up in permanently.

[@commieloli5182]

I am very certain people in Ukraine and Belarus might appreciate being American

[@squareinsquare2078]

@@commieloli5182 I'm very certain that currently there are more Ukrainians moving to my country than there are moving to the US. And I live in Ireland, we are a tiny country.

[@Diana-xx6my]

@@commieloli5182 you think that's a flex? People living in war torn countries would rather live in a non war torn country? Wow...How did you figure that out? Of course they would rather live in America now than in Ukraine, but the real question is would they rather live in America or Denmark? And the answer would most likely be Denmark. That's the point lmfao.

[@FatherManus]

A lot more Europeans want to live here than the reverse. So he’s right. And notice how you said “European” instead of a specific country. I love when people do this trick. You compare one country to all of Europe so you can pick and choose the country that’s more convenient to compare to America at any given moment. Pick a specific European country and compare it to America. I guarantee we dominate them in the most important metrics.

[@UnCh4rT3D]

in my experience restaurants with huge ass lines are often overrated af

[@francisikwueme1688]

Yep Golden Corral 😂

[@kylerBD]

Yeah that hypothetical was terrible.

[@FatherManus]

Yes, his analogy was dumb.

[@ben5154]

"That doesnt happen anywhere else in the world" i like how he hinges his arguments on objectively wrong assumptions, thereby making his arguments objectively wrong 😂

[@SimonBellaMondo]

It happens much less frequently in other countries because there’s more opportunity here.

[@Theoissic]

@@SimonBellaMondo it happens less because there is less people, per capita it happens more. America isn't even in the top 20 when it comes to social mobility ranking. The only countries in the top 20 that aren't European are Japan, Canada, Australia and Singapore.

[@SimonBellaMondo]

@@TheoissicHe’s not talking about the social mobility index, that has more to do with education and health care access, look at the criteria. He’s talking about becoming a self made millionaire. America has, by far, the most self made millionaires, regardless of population. It’s not even close.

[@Theoissic]

@@SimonBellaMondo What do you think social mobility means? It is quite literally a measure of how good the odds are that someone in a society can change their economic circumstance. Going from an impoverished upbringing to being a millionaire, that is social mobility.

[@UltraEgoMc]

@@TheoissicWhat about human rights? Innovation? Medicine? Influence? The military? I can go on. Texas alone is richer then a lot of European countries, America clearly is exceptional. Where do you think your culture, rights, and the technology you enjoy most comes from?

[@TheLivewire18]

I can’t stand when people say “you can’t do that in other countries” and then proceed to not name first world nations. Bro really said Haiti… why don’t they ever say Canada? That would actually be a fair/honest comparison.

[@volusiasorange]

you can literally do it in China.

[@FatherManus]

Canada couldn't exist in it's current form without us supporting them. They have no military to speak of, their economy is dwarfed by the United States, and they have a bunch of issues namely the lack of freedom of speech. They will arrest you for saying things the government deems offensive. Canada is not a utopia. The United States is more successful and more free than them in pretty much every metric.

[@wtfimcrying]

lol@@volusiasorange

[@dawnkeyy]

Yeah, 0 people are immigrating to Europe

[@TimPortantno]

Israel is more expensive to live in than most of the US, it is a first world country, it doesn't even make sense.

[@hunterlurvey698]

The restaurant analogy actually works in the end because he tells destiny that they had to sneak him in through the back, if youre rich and have connections, you get speciel treatment, but if youre the average joe, you get to wait in line like everyone else.

[@justinsuchan]

How does that work for the 99% of the world who don’t have connections lol

[@UserJWR]

Last weekend I waited in line to McDonald's for like 45 minutes. The line was mostly drunk people. Penny for your thoughts.

[@oppslopper3017]

Destiny isn’t going to sleep with you Hunter

[@hunterlurvey698]

@@justinsuchan they wait in line?

[@hunterlurvey698]

@@oppslopper3017 you don't know that

[@chrisdistant9040]

His queue analogy is really revealing. He has no goals or values of his own, he runs after what’s popular. Kinda sad really.

[@cubalarry]

Zelensky went from comedian to president. Ukraine W

[@themange59]

The opportunity argument is so stale with newer generations because the wealth disparity is getting larger and larger. If you are a middle class kid you see the opportunities because they are closer. As the middle class slowly disappears so do people's ability to see opportunity.

[@DogsRSweet]

I think one of the biggest problems with the current political divide, is that enough light and talk is being shined on that problem. If we had more opportunities for everyone, than that would solve the problems with inequality of minorities, as it would allow them a better chance than locking in a limited number of them in say college courses or jobs. If you allow for the free and open development of opportunities for everyone, than that would be much more effective just based solely on statistics

[@LoudWaffle]

And as nice as it is to say that even most poor Americans have better lives that people in many other places across the globe, it's still a moot point to younger generations who have exclusively seen their standards of living and opportunities decrease. I'm close to 30 so at least I got to cognisantly experience the advent of the internet and smartphones, but for people even 10 years younger than me those are just taken for granted facts of life; what they see and are focused on is the fact that within their lifetime being able to buy a house is less likely than the chance that they'll experience a global climate disaster.

[@LoudWaffle]

Some of the best food I've ever had has been walking into an entirely dead, quiet restaurant run by some foreign folks where only the wife speaks english with a heavy accent and the husband does all the cooking. No line, amazing food, fantastic price, friendly service.

[@RoseEyed]

Him: “Why aren’t kids these days proud to be American anymore?” Destiny: Gives concrete answers about things European countries are better at than us meaning we aren’t exceptional, ongoing wars we’ve started, polarization impacting things people can safely name, and wealth inequality that has negatively impacted the youth unlike older generations Him: “they just need to work harder so they can be the 1 out of a million to become a millionaire like I did, problem solved.”

[@gsurtos6588]

Also having way more white people, like majority 90% white. Destiny, democrats and leftist tend to always overlook this fact. and instead focus on results. Homogenous population western and west like countries tend to be able to accomplish things more when it comes to social care. And if you look at US history where we were able to accomplish the most, it was in the past when it had overwhelming white population. It is what it is. The US won’t be able to accomplish what the European countries are capable of, not anymore because our demographic is soo “diverse” it is now no longer functional holistically as one body.

[@gsurtos6588]

Only time US was exceptional was when it had white overwhelming majority and where it had the highest concentration of European immigrants. Which were all in the past. Hence….. the uncomfortable fact is that homogenous population vs diverse population. A lot easier to accomplish social care when the person looks like you, your father, mother sister brother etc. homogenous demographics is the ultimate answer to these types of question. We always use European countries as the example but we never use the parameter that European countries are under. We only look at the results while having blinders on. How they are able to accomplish something like that. And no, European population is no where near diverse as the US.

[@RediTtora]

Destiny also said good things about America it's funny how selective you are about your hearing

[@gsurtos6588]

@@RediTtora one, i dont know why u think i said that destiny never said anything good about america. literally nothing i wrote above says that. odd maybe you should practice on better reading comprehension, its obvious you have SELECTIVE COMPREHENSION. 2nd, you said good, but i bet you cant even name one specific one destiny has said about america. i know the good things he says. im asking if you know what he says.

[@RediTtora]

@@gsurtos6588 but douche the way you phrase it gives the direct impression that Destiny only said bad things about the United States, the fact that you even brought it up, implies that also, it's okay for you to say you hate this country. At least be an adult about it but all this weaselly bulshit is exactly the sort of this honest craft at Destiny calls out

[@dao8611]

“You can be rich” well you can also be president. What are the odds?

[@nickmyers3065]

My guy is asked a simple thing, what did the USA do in the past decade or two that is EXceptional and worthy of love. Can't answer lol

[@kangaroomax8198]

- Social media - COVID vaccines - Reusuable rockets - Autonomous vehicles - ChatGPT / OpenAI - Smart phones - 3D Printing - Digital Payments - Cloud Computing Basically every technical revolution you can think of in the last 20 years has either exclusively, or primarily come from the US. No other country has even come close in contributing to the advancement of the world. If you want to accomplish nothing and get free healthcare, go to Europe. If you want to build something that outlasts that changes the world you, come to the USA. USA is built to reward greatness. If you don't want to be great, you don't belong here.

[@dininelbourne]

"But I REEEAAALLY wanna tell you about MY life!"

[@FatherManus]

It's a stupid question for multiple reasons. 1) What has ANY country done in the last decade or so to be proud of? What are the metrics of a good accomplishment? Does it have to be done by the government or the people? I can list American accomplishments I find to be exceptional: - Space X's rocket technology advancements - Computer technology advancements (Quantum Computing, Consumer tech, etc) - Car technology advancements (self driving cars, touchscreens, etc) - First Black (Half Black technically) President, First Female, Half Black, Half - Asian Vice President - Smartphones: All current smartphones were heavily influenced or directly made by Apple, an American company -Medical advancements (MRNA, stem cells made from skin cells, the first successful nerve-transfer surgery) There are far more, obviously, but I don't have all day to research them. 2) Even if their wasn't any in the last decade or so, who cares? That doesn't erase the nearly 300 years of the country's history nor all the freedoms and conveniences that you benefit from everyday but take for granted. 3) A better question is what have YOU done that's exceptional and worthy of love. You have this ass backwards idea that the world or this country in particular needs to impress YOU. It's the other way around. You are the one that needs to prove yourself and add something valuable to society. The country has already done that.

[@skoomaenjoyer9582]

@@FatherManusi’m a bit of a cynic so I’d write off some numbers on that list, including Apple and their smartphones. These corporations have largely detached from the country’s identity, the US is good for their taxes, they start there, but there’s not an allegiance or similarity as far as I’m aware I think it’s valid to ask what the US has done recently. What America IS, is what it is now and recent. Its history helps with identity, but you can’t convince new generations who’ve never seen that identity appear. The last point is true in part. As a member of this nation, contribution is necessary, and it is fulfilled in how you engage with its market, work, and politics. It’s a sell on both sides. “Here’s why you should be a proud American, thus, go out, work, contribute!” You can say fuckit to those who want something particular from the US, but that does reinforce our population of homeless and drug addicts. Low motivation, nihilistic dependents who can’t see how they should be proud, busting their ass for 70 hours a week while on withdrawal to live in a poor-kept single bed with 5 other people. The US does helpful things for people in this bracket, i.e. food stamps, welfare, loans… but that last part. The least educated in our population must try and take out loans to have a shot at breaking out of that low place. Education. And yet, banks are capable of using that dependency to bury them further without a safeguard from the US. I won’t say this mistake isn’t born of ignorance of money, but once the mistake is made, those guys are forsaken. They’re now “lowlifes” who shoulda never tried drugs, who should just go back and fix their family situation, who shoulda known better with that loan, who shoulda done better in school despite working overtime. They’re shrugged off as simple failures. But hey, that’s your choice. So maybe America CAN do things for its people, especially its new generation, which can’t pinpoint what we’re all about to begin with.

[@FatherManus]

@@skoomaenjoyer9582 I'd like you or someone else to answer this: What has any other country done in the last couple of decades that is exceptional and worthy of love? And compare those accomplishments to the United States and see if they are better or worse.

[@Stephenwhite013]

Notice he went from being a comic to randomly getting a job as a caller in finance. How tf can a regular person get a job in finance out of nowhere. It’s obvious someone gave him a job

[@demongurrl13]

Nepo babies always like to think they worked for stuff lol

[@RediTtora]

Did you ever bother to look into it or you just ranting here

[@RediTtora]

​@@demongurrl13I like people who complain about nepotism but are okay with affirmative action

[@demongurrl13]

@RediTtora-sx1hb did I say affirmative action anywhere?

[@RediTtora]

@@demongurrl13 did anyone talk about nepotism in the video and yet you guys invented that whole fucking story

[@boylamont3449]

“If a restaurant is busy it has good food” is the worst take. Some of the shittiest and most expensive food I’ve eaten was at places with a required reservation list. Lol, that’s like “these clothes are expensive and sold out so they must be amazing” all the other sheep are there thinking the same thing you are. Some of the best places to eat I’ve found were “hole-in-the-wall” type places.

[@TheLuigiCannon]

As someone that lives in a large American city, NEVER go to a restaurant that has a huge line. For the entirety of the time I've lived here, it's as average as any other restaurant in the area but it's gained an underserved reputation. That reputation could have started from a good location, decent food in an area that didn't have much previously, a huge investment in the decor so it feels like a "destination spot." The comparison almost works against him; just because something is super hyped up in popular culture doesn't mean it's better than other options.

[@emmanuelgarcia619]

Katz deli nyc

[@TheLuigiCannon]

@@emmanuelgarcia619 exactly. Like come on, most restaurants around times square are going to have waits to get in, from red lobster to horrible pub food. But I guess they must be great if everyone's waiting to get in.

[@emmanuelgarcia619]

@@TheLuigiCannon yeah I agree with that. But while long lines don’t guarantee good, there are also places with big hype and long lines simply because they’re really good. Katz deli has phenomenal pastrami. It’s worth the long line wait. Near time square is a little Florence style Italian sandwich shop - All'antico Vinaio. Always a long line but the sandwiches are delicious and worth the wait.

[@Mitchell_Muehl]

He owned himself with his own hypothetical 😅😅😅

[@justlooking1087]

Lol does he think people don’t migrate to European countries? Mobile people from countries close to Europe tend to migrate to the wealthiest European countries. And those closest to America tend to migrate to the USA or Canada.

[@FatherManus]

More people in the world migrate to America than any European country. Many of them travel right past Europe to come here. That wouldn’t be the case if Europe was better than us.

[@SRR-5657]

But no matter what, they're all tryna live where the most white people are🤣

[@Animationsforever]

​@@FatherManus More than any european country ALONE, yes. Any single country in Europe is smaller than the US so no shit. But more people immigrate to Europe than the US. So you're just wrong. People migrate to the closest wealthy countries. Same with refugees. Syrians didn't try to get to the US. They all tried to get to France, Germany, UK and Sweden. There is just no reason to immigrate to the US when you can crash in Sweden. Life is just easier. The only people that emigrate from Europe to go the the US are already well off people that just like the idea of America and go there to study or get paid better for their job they already have. That is not the vast amount of people.

[@FatherManus]

@@Animationsforever It’s not our fault no European country is anywhere near the size, strength, wealth, and influence of the United States. You can’t compare a country to a continent. Country to country, we are far better than any European country. Deal with it. And no, people don’t just go to the nearest wealthy country. Some people settle for the closest but others come from all over the world to come to America. Some fly right over Europe to come here. If Europe was better that would never happen.

[@SabracadabrO]

“I won the lottery!,praise be to Merica!”clown🤡

[@nak6608]

As an American, this was so aggravating to watch. The "you can become rich" is the WEAKEST fucking sell. Imagine if we could say, "we have the best education in the world", "we have the best healthcare in the world", "we have the best infrastructure in the world", "we have the happiest people per capita in the world", "and we are the wealthiest people in the world."

[@GillySqueeze]

That restaurant analogy is a dog shit analogy The way you know if it's a good restaurant is by the service you get there the value.

[@MrJayb76]

how is it dogshit? lines out the door gotta mean something.

[@highxbye]

​@@MrJayb76 Yeah it means either they overbooked and you will get shit service and cold food. Or they are at max capacity and the food you get will be around what their google rating says. Just go off of word of mouth or if you're in a new place google ratings.

[@MrJayb76]

@@highxbye damm bro basically you saying those who wait in line are delusional and masochists.

[@endtimes19]

The worst analogy possible. Its truly idiotic

[@mattreigada3745]

Questions like "are you proud to be an American?" are why I can't take figures like Jordan Peterson seriously when he says "I thought pride was a sin" with respect to LGBT pride. The same people who say pride is bad can't reasonably hold it up as a virtue elsewhere.

[@mattreigada3745]

@@buddabrotha4993 except that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Unless you are an immigrant, you did precisely zero work to be an American.

[@mattreigada3745]

@@buddabrotha4993 it has nothing to do with the comment I made, asserting otherwise doesn't make it so

[@LoudWaffle]

@@buddabrotha4993 Why can't LGBT people be prideful in the work done to secure rights for their community, same as Americans can be prideful in their country's accomplishments? Where is the difference? What makes one "pride in your work" and the other "being prideful"? It seems like they're the same and JP like so many other Christians and "cultural Christians" just want to wield words without consistency to serve their own purposes and biases.

[@vantianhergheligiu12]

@@buddabrotha4993 Gay people celebrate their pride of being gay because for a vast majority of human history they were shamed for that. Not even 15 years ago people thought it was ok to shame and bash gay people for the simple fact of being gay. Hell there is still a good amount of people(in the US) not majority who still shame people for being gay. "Pride" was a response to that. "If you want to shame me for who I am than I'm going to be and show pride for the same thing".

[@vantianhergheligiu12]

​@@buddabrotha4993 Why is the action wrong? Don't you believe in freedom? Do whatever you want as long as you don't infringe on someone's else freedom.

[@chrisdistant9040]

The good old “hey, it worked for me! Now let me sell you on dreaming about accomplishing the same while I slowly pull the ladder up behind me!”

[@PengWinYoutube]

Well I guess Canada and Europe have the best healthcare because of the lineups lmaooo

[@DogsRSweet]

Nice one

[@spiicymango]

LOL

[@taylormade9748]

Sometimes these panels feel like the movie Idiocracy. Every RP or RP adjacent feel like that movie. Destiny would play Luke Wilson

[@stevenguitink5947]

Steve asks him a question that should force him to think outside himself, to put himself in the shoes of people not like him and his response is to fail miserably and come across as nothing more than a selfish wanker.

[@IceKroontje]

This men is to delusional to think that the USA is the only country where you can make it if you work hard. Nothing against the USA but being from the Neterlands (Amsterdam) which is build on a really good transportation system where doing some grocery's is a 3 to 5 min walk to the store, the hot spot for pubs a 15 min bus or tram ride and going to work doesn't take long for most either (maybe 20-30 min) Not to forget the health care or going school doesn't drown you're wallet and the buildings we live in are old but of stone and very solidly built + are being renovated more often which means that most buildings got a character. We don't live to work but work to live and every person takes their vacation days (payed of) so i'am happy where i live, no need to stand in line for America.

[@michaelh878]

America is way down on the list of upward mobility.

[@kangaroomax8198]

I love how only mediocre losers phrase it as 'working to live.' It's called improving the society in which you exist. Americans are the most innovative people in the world, by far. No one comes close to solving problems and making the world a better place. That is what great people value, and it is what the United States rewards above all else. If you solve a problem for others, you are given riches beyond your wildest dreams. It is the greatest possible incentive system for innovation. You know what mediocre losers care about? - Buildings with 'character' - Vacation days - The commute It's a joke. No wonder Europeans had to be rescued from Hitler, same way you'd have to be rescued from China, same way you'd have to be rescued from Russia. You are not a great. You are nothing but a footnote in history, and everything about your country for the last few hundred years is going to be totally forgotten. The last time the Netherlands was relevant was, what - during the days of exploration? Have you done even one thing interesting since then? Everyone knows if you want to build something, change the world, and improve society you come to America. If you want to enjoy a nice commute and die a worthless life, go to Europe.

[@jek4837]

The sheer size of the US makes the transportation irrelevant. I live in an area where it would be ridiculously stupid and expensive to have a transit system like you describe. I am also a single guy living in a 167 sq. meter house with a huge yard and 2-car garage. I am still less than 10 minutes away to a ton of restaurants and shopping options.

[@roguis3451]

@@jek4837 sounds like you dont live in an urban area, so your point is pretty null

[@IceKroontje]

@@jek4837 That's also a choice a choice the system made, the thing you get in return are less expensive housing and bigger houses but at the cost of transportation and options of transportation (having almost everything in walking or biking distance) That's because of the rules most places in America have, you can't build a restaurant, cafe, gym etc.. in a housing area, ofcourse does this depend which state/place you live in the USA but if they didn't had those rules then by some states/ places then i would be eassier to make those area's. (or have a those things near) rather then being a car country and having to depend on cars.

[@Lachronix]

I think the inherent belief of "pick urself up by ur straps' completely derails the conversation. If the host guy can't even for one conversation, think about the points Destiny made then this conversation will always go nowhere. You have to acknowledges his points. Yes people get more from their taxes in those European countries than we do here in the USA. Assuming you don't live in Chicago or the northeast, there is no amazing transit system that can take you from one place to another. It's still insane to me that Texas has not been able to figure that out, they'd probably keep more people as a result. The debt the health care system leaves people in is a glaring factor that was just ignored by the host in favor of his dumb argument "victim mentality'. I know people who had to stop their own lives to pay med bills of their moms, complete de-railing their own lives to take care of someone else. That's a pretty big deal. There seems to be no agency, federal or otherwise, tasked with getting people off the streets. Police don't have that in their job description so leaving it to them is stupid. So if the host engaged with these points I'd be more willing to hear him out. However he presented nothing but 'victim mentality' and 2 of the 3 women as evidence to his point. And the last woman who said 'my fam is still in israel' I'd grill her on why are they still there? Cause them being there doesn't help the hosts point. And the last point, Cubans were given amnesty and encouraged to come to America by Reagan. So the idea that they did it by themselves is false. It helps when you have a government worth billions of dollars boating millions of cubans to another country.

[@Jack_._._.]

It's more like: There's only 1 functional restraurant in the city and it has abysmal management so the line to get in goes around the block.

[@etopsch369]

He knows absolutly nothing about other countrys but he knows ammerica is the best

[@arob8685]

Right just like how the line for the pharmacy at CVS is long because it's the best pharmacy ever, not because there's issues with people's medications that require time to figure out and fix

[@ElliotScottDating]

What if the line is long bc the service is whack? I can't tell you how long my Starbucks and McDonalds lines are.

[@LoudWaffle]

This. And yet people still join the lineup because they're brainwashed into wanting that thing despite knowing it's poor quality and there being plenty of other options. So Adam actually came up with the perfect analogy for America, though it says the complete opposite of what he's trying to say.

[@clipmixhd4937]

Some of the best restaurants I have been to were basically empty when I went there

[@dawnkeyy]

"Most people can be the top 20 wealthiest in the world." ????????????????! "You can't better yourself in any other country besides America." ????????????????????????????????! Idk, I guess this guy really is the living proof than anybody can be a millionaire in America

[@boreopithecus]

This guy’s idea of his country’s exceptionalism is off the charts.

[@otmanh]

"Every American is just a temporarily embarrassed millionaire" is a very powerful quote/idea thats floating around on the internet. It's time for Americans to finally step away from that embarrassment.

[@thenewyearsgrinch]

This line literally changed my whole entire political worldview. The quote is from John Steinbeck. If you're interested.

[@FatherManus]

Nice false dichotomy. You don’t need to be a millionaire to be successful. This line only works on people that didn’t think about it for longer than two seconds, like the commenter above me.

[@thenewyearsgrinch]

@@FatherManus Bro if your talking to me, atleast have the stones to throw in an @. The quote isnt about 'success'. Its about voting and acting in your own interests. If you're working class, Unionise, and vote for programs that will help you in the here and now, eg universal healthcare. And dont believe in pie in the sky bullshit politics that only helps you when you're 'rich'.

[@Cid_1]

He's so delusional thinking that the US is the only place people can work to become really successful and wealthy. The US used to be the country where everybody wanted to move. Now most people I speak to rather move to places like Portugal, Poland, Finland, etc. Especially over the last decade or so fewer and fewer Europeans want to move to the states.

[@Muahaha651]

Lmao that’s a good joke

[@Scardor]

America is a great country to be rich in, horrible to be poor in. Most Western European countries are not as amazing to be rich in, but it's pretty great quality of life with a huge middle class.

[@noahelwell2404]

These people will say America is the best because it's popular, but when they're told that left-leaning economic policies are popular (see Sam Seder on PBD) they say "well just because it's popular doesn't mean it's good."

[@drg8687]

LOL, you can only be better than you were the day before if you live in America? The delusion is hysterical!

[@chrislastname1994]

The problem is the younger generation always takes the past and the current for granted. Regardless freedom will always come with consequences.

[@mistapitts]

For somewhat older content like this, I suggest stating the date it was recorded if not also link to the original content in the description. I saw this one when it was aired, but I've noticed that some clips I've discovered here are outdated, and I look like a doofus when I go talking about it like a current event

[@LoudWaffle]

Yeah a lot of the clips from this channel have been popping up in recommended for me, and they're good clips in themselves, but I can tell from the blue hair that it's all outdated content that I've certainly already seen.

[@Prefury]

sos really gives off the news anchors from "Don't look up" energy.

[@brookealicia92]

You are closer to being homeless than being a millionaire. These people are crazy.

[@Shlumpledink]

Chili's down the street from my house had a line out the door for whatever reason. That place must be amazing

[@adamcastelli9262]

“Let me ask you a question” followed by a never ending tangent.

[@mrdoogle5931]

40% taxes for healthcare? Lol. The guy's clueless. He says that like having free healthcare is something ridiculous. It should be a human right. Here in the UK we pay a minimum of 20% and get free healthcare on the NHS. It's always funny to hear Americans downplay anything other countries do better than them. Buddy, if you're happy spending 10's or 100's of thousands of dollars on healthcare then fair play to you, but most Americans can't afford it. That's the problem. It's not difficult to understand.

[@wendellalbright6758]

Sos seemed genuinely upset that Stephen dismissed his vitriolic fairy tale

[@NuclearSunshineSB]

I've lived in the US, Europe and Australia. In my experience, the average person has the best life in Australia, followed by Europe (at least Germany, Austria and Scandinavia, don't know the other countries that well), and then America. That being said, Europe can be very discouraging if you have a lot of ambition and want to build a company or work independently.

[@Muahaha651]

I’d rather not get bit by a rare spider

[@NuclearSunshineSB]

@@Muahaha651 you don‘t have to worry about spiders. The snakes will get you first.

[@Muahaha651]

@@NuclearSunshineSB if the emus don’t get to you first like they did to the Australians

[@Dawg476]

This guy really thinks it’s the United States of Earth

[@LeonLindProductions]

Sweden has more wealth mobility than the US so I don't know why he says that the US is the only country when you can go from being broke to being a millionare easily. It's harder in the US than in many other countries.

[@Dan16673]

I dont see that in sweden. Its very hard to make it past average there

[@MrMithosriot]

I work for USCIS. I can tell you that right now there are 2.75 million applications for citizenship to the US. There is a line to come in, and not a line to get out. People dont come here because its the closest. "Refugees" skip over multiple safe countries and come here.

[@Alright70]

“They can go Haiti “. Lol😂

[@Justoone2]

Bro, if that restaurant analogy was applicable, the cheesecake factory would be good food.

[@shadman3984]

I’m pretty sure the richest people in the world aren’t on a website calling them the richest people on the world.

[@peters4115]

Bro really said you should be proud to be American because I’M RICH and 1% of you might be too 💀💀 think he just answered why younger generations aren’t proud of America with that asinine answer lmao

[@JASON-ug6iz]

Be rich and famous is great goal for some people and it true that the U.S. is the best at providing that opportunity. However since 99% of the youth will never become that they look at countries where normal are thriving. Unfortunately due to the collapse of the middle class you can’t find that in the U.S. anymore.

[@ChipCheerio]

This “anyone can be rich” thing is so dumb. I’m rich because I had a ton of opportunities working in my favor. There was hard work involved, for sure, but I’d never say that I worked harder than my granddad who was a construction worker his whole life. Dude was hard as nails and never stopped working but never managed to rise above poverty.

[@camronbitzer3159]

Brazil is in the top ten countries with the most billionaires in the world lol. This guy doesn't know anything at all

[@chrislastname1994]

Destiny's argument is a bit weak here. Obviously not everyone can be the 1 %. But class mobility is way more fluid here in the states than most other countries. Also, there are more avenues than ever before to become wealthy and more people do it than you might realize. This biggest thing is staying at a high level. The core of the freedom mentality is that you have the possibility to reach whatever you want to. On the flip side of that there are no guide rails and you could end up with nothing. It isn't a lifestyle choice that suits everyone but it has merit. Trying to distill it down to just the 1% is disingenuous. Most people aren't aiming to be the 1% even if they are looking to be wealthy.

[@DK5TY]

Imo Destiny point was you want stats from the middle class or average American if they are proud to be an American and the point people from the middle east wanting to come to America could be there's nothing left of their homes due to the war on terror basically forcing them to move. People in most free countries have the opportunity to be what they want to be especially in Europe where there are many countries with free education giving people the knowledge to purse their dreams. American dream is to be able to live start a family and enjoy your life with every costing more and the median wage not being able to support your lifestyle will end up the decline of Americas population and power in the world. America sold it's soul to big corporations which is the true government of America.

[@otmanh]

Bullshit! Some of you Americans really have been sniffing your own farts for too long. Maybe fewer people in Western Europe can get as fast and as rich as in the USA, because of higher wages and higher taxes for instance. But the freedom to get to be who you want to be here in Western Europe doesn't hold second position to that of the United States. I could even argue that that the freedom here is bigger because people can afford to study whatever they want here in Europe. Het your ass out of that bubble, the world is bigger than just those 50 states.

[@chrislastname1994]

@DK5TY not trying to sound mean but a lot of your comments don't really make sense. What exactly is your point in the first paragraph? What stats are you looking for in particular? The American dream isn't just have a family and live in a nice house with a white picket fence. Im sure that's what some people desire but thats not the american dream. The american dream refers more to the choice and freedom. For what it's worth the american dream died after the expansion west and the country was fully settled. That's part of the compromise of having a society though. So it is what it is. America's slump or "downfall" isn't caused by corporations or wall street or anything like that. People like to point to that because it's an easy target but not the real culprit.

[@Knight766]

@@chrislastname1994 Are you familiar with the concept of "planetary boundaries"? Endless growth is not possible and also because of depopulation the stock market is essentially worthless. The predatory capitalist/imperialist mindset that seeks to convert all of nature into products and all relationships into services has no future.

[@julius477]

I think the criminal justice system in America is definitely not something to be proud of…

[@rustedsabre4699]

Most restaurants with a long wait that I have been to usually aren't worth it let alone good. Probably because people are often compared to sheep for a reason.

[@bishopbling4115]

A restaurant having a long line doesn't necessarily mean it's the best. It could be just because it's trendy.

[@JBTFan124]

"The worst parts if Brazil". You mean all of Brazil? The average income in Brazil is $12,000 a year. The average income in the USA is over $50,000 This guy wants to keep trying to sound smart but you can see the foundation of his beliefs are sooo wrong

[@roguis3451]

well whenever the host talks about brazil he mentions the favela, so yeah the worst of brazil

[@sgs8747]

Here is what Adam’s missing: For the sake of example, let’s assume everybody had the same chance of getting to the top. There are always going to be, mathematically speaking, 50% making below average and a bottom 10% in very bad poverty. That’s 33M+ people. What about them? Do they have to starve and not have access to healthcare? (he wouldn’t say whoopdeedoo healthcare to someone whose parent is rationing insulin.) Destiny is spot on that most people would rather have a good life (union job, healthcare, education, etc.) vs allow the inequality we have for the .0001% chance of becoming ultra rich. This is why I’m glad unions are coming back.

[@MDM8998]

If all ppl can be wealthy, why aren't they already? It's not just about young ppl. ALL ppl remember

[@otmanh]

LoL you just broke the internet 😅 But these people ofcourse are going to day all those people that work three jobs and 70+ hours a week really aren't hustling hard enough.

[@frankhernandez6524]

The “it’s on me to get my ass up and do what I want” exist in most countries.

[@NotShaikan]

According to some Europe is in a refugee crisis. There are exponentially more people trying to get into EU than into the US. And I'm not even saying that's because Europe is better, it's just as Steven said: people go to whichever destination is closest.

[@markwulf]

The problem with guys like this is that they're right in the sense that you HAVE to believe that to have a chance at being successful in the US.

[@J.JamesTheKid.]

2 MILLION Americans moved to Mexico in the last couple years. And they are still moving there. America WAS the place to be. Everyone is learning now that it once was but since the super pacs came into politics it’s changed.

[@Fjaloeat1]

I’m proud of how in Wisconsin the GOP is about to literally undo an election that just happened in April. America best dawgg.

[@velvet_Overkill]

Oh a right wing grifter is a failed artist, definitely didn't see that coming

[@imbigwes]

My love for my country comes from the inherent pride of being from here, and that's enough for me. SOS needs to realize that if you love someone, you don't just placate and say "it works in other ways so it's fine. I'm critical with it and want change BECAUSE I love it, and I feel like if young Americans could take this view we could kick the bipartisan bullshit and start ACTUALLY working on making things better. That and remember that someone that disagrees with you is not your enemy, so long as they aren't hurting anyone.

[@wtfimcrying]

bipartisan seems to work tho

[@dininelbourne]

I literally cannot feel pride for something I had no part in accomplishing. I was born American, so being proud of that is impossible for me and I can't fathom how anyone else is. Might as well be proud of gravity at that point.

[@wtfimcrying]

@@dininelbourne gravity isnt a human concept though. its universal.

[@dininelbourne]

@wtfimcrying , if you read carefully, I was comparing the two things on how they are both completely out of your control. You had no say in it, it's just the way things happened.

[@dininelbourne]

@@CrimeaisRussianBro, yes. I don't understand pride in things you had nothing to do with.

[@MDM8998]

Older ppl are wealthy and wealthier because sht wasn't as high back in the day

[@OffenerDiskurs]

I live in Germany for almost 28 years and Adam is so unaware of his lack of knowledge😂. Europe doesn't way better than the US. Less unemployment, free healthcare, free education. You can become rich here but just like in every countries only a small percent of people become rich.

[@erkanerenoglu1355]

Salt Bae's restaurants had huge waiting lines, but the food turned out to be overpriced gold leaf mediocre meat.

[@Mamboking71]

As a Cuban American I love this country,it has given me freedom that I can get shot or imprisoned in Cuba

[@Demir2k]

european here, most people dont want to live in the us and thinks its a 3rd world country.

[@HALOSnHORNS]

A gen z doesn't care about your life. A crisp fact

[@NikkolasKing]

Does anybody have a link to the full video?

[@bruhdabones]

August needs to put in at the top of the description fr

[@LoudWaffle]

@@bruhdabones He's only paid 6 million dollars per week, please go easy on the guy :^)

[@phillgornall2296]

My car is the best car in the world. Because it doesn’t work! So I’m forced to walk my ass to work.

[@arwurth]

The argument Destiny should have made is "yes and you went into finance. You went into an industry that caters to the ultra-wealthy, which is what i said in the first place. If youre ultra-wealthy in the USA, you have it great. But what if someone was just as a hard worker as you, just as motivated to better themselves and passionate about what they do, but instead of being into finance theyre into painting. And they want to put their passion and hard work and blood sweat and tears into painting. Doesnt that person, if they work a full time job and pay their taxes in the US deserve to be able to pursue their dreams and not have to worry about paying for basic necessitates like groceries, rent and a car. This is why its not just "lazy and wanting a handout from the gov't" its about letting people live their lives and do what they want and be FREE without being crushed by the costs of everything.

[@IonizedComa]

I lived in a 3rd world country my entire life until 21, when i made enough money to move overseas, America was not even on my mind with all the crime and it's degenerate culture was not really for me. So i travelled quite a bit and got really fond of Norway, living here for 6 years and regret nothing

[@michaelm8529]

The UK, France, Germany, Sweden, etc. Are having huge influxes of economic migrants. There are more polish speakers in the UK than Welsh. The leader of the country is Hindu. The US isn't unique among developed countries for economic migrants

[@JunkieMonkey321]

judging a restaurant by the length of the line is so stupid. tons of restaurants have long ass lines because of good marketing, or some famous person is behind the franchise, or some other shit like that, all while the food is two steps from dogshit.

[@airiquelmeleroy]

"The waiting line tells you how good a country is. Everyone wants to get in the US! That's why we are having an immigration problem right now!" Europe, stuck in an unending immigration crisis: "True brother"

[@Yessir822]

42% of top 100 richest people are American, not 75%

[@johnnymematik8649]

You don't have lines before the best restaurants. You have to make reservations. This knucklehead has no idea.😅Oh and I like to judge restaurants by the quality of the food. Thanks man, this was funny.

[@iguacu3517]

Did he slip into unconsciousness when Destiny said of course if you compare to places like Brazil and other less wealthy countries?

[@weirdo3116]

Also when it comes to life and death. I'm not waiting 2 hours in line to get what is most likely okay food. I'm not letting these people hijack my brain.

[@acidfromhell]

The way you judge a restaurant is by eating at it. You shouldn't think it's good because everybody else likes it but because you liked it.

[@Shadowbanned4Lyfe]

Also gen z “I don’t want to work a 40 hour week”

[@johnnymematik8649]

It's always funny to hear Americans talking about Europe and actually knowing next to nothing about it.