Paper EDH Aurelia Angels vs Kyler, Mavinda, Snapdax | MTG EDH Gameplay

Today we check out the very first edited paper game ever presented on this channel with Aurelia Angel Tribal.
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[@PrivateAccoun]

I was going to suggest you speak more of your thoughts on what you were planning, what you had in hand, and your general opinions, as that’s why I like your content (especially because I don’t think like a Boros player!). But you covered it all well and I appreciated the content

[@CommanderReplay]

Thanks Ill keep it in mind. Definitely a big difference between calling it live and doing it afterwards, ill need to reconcile some of that.

[@UnknownNyxx13]

That Mavinda deck looked sweet!

[@hafusan]

I like that PJ still says "we" as i "we drop a mask of memory" at 4:48 :) We are always with you, PJ!

[@Frank-py3hk]

Monthly games would be great. Lighter colored, and less "busy" playmats make it easier to recognize cards.

[@ClassicMagicMan]

Liked the video; I think we would like to see more of these from time to time, PJ. More work for you. ha

[@kingginger3335]

Jairdan's playmat is the coolest playmat I've ever seen. Jay as Jace conjuring Silent Bob magic lmao 🤣 amazing

[@Dalenthas]

When the Commander death rule changed from a replacement effect to a state based action, it changed how a mutated Commander functions. Old rules, the Oddsmaker would've gotten stranded in the Command Zone, current rules it goes to exile as normal and should've returned when Phi lost the monarch.

[@riverketcherside1256]

I am under the impression that you have this backwards. I got this from watching the Commandzone video where they discussed the mutate mechanic and the Commander's Quarters video where he was able to get his entire deck stranded in the command zone

[@riverketcherside1256]

Essentially from what I understood, old rules an oblivion ring would exile a commander, which could be stuck in the commandzone, but when the oblivion ring left, it would come back out of the commandzone. Under the new rules, if it is put into the commandzone then it is no longer tied to the oblivion ring effect. This combined with mutate making it all one permanent, means the entire stack has to go into either exile, the commandzone, the graveyard, the hand, the deck, etc. Essentially the Azra would've been stranded in the commandzone

[@Dalenthas]

@@riverketcherside1256 those videos came out at the same time as Ikoria, the Commander death rule changed a few months after that.

[@Dalenthas]

Under the old rules, a Commander going to the Command Zone was a replacement effect. It didn't go to any other zone first, it went straight to the CZ from the battlefield. Any creatures in a mutate stack with the Commander would move to the same zone as it, your choice as to exile or the Command Zone in this case. Under the new rules, the Commander first goes to the zone specified, in this case exile, then moves from there to the Command Zone. Any creatures in a mutate stack will separate on zone change, and thus stay in exile when the Commander moves.

[@chrismarlow9585]

Can confirm, David has it all correct. The important thing with mutate and changing zones is they go to the other zone together but then immediately split and become individual things each with whatever effect that was placed on them (if there's one which makes them return). It gets a bit more complicated with commanders because it can be confusing whether the split happens first or the moving to command zone, but I'm almost certain it's the split. If you can't convince someone you're playing with I'd use the argument that if the order was undecided by the rules then the owner should be allowed to order the effects, hence making the split happen first.

[@salsathe4th]

Dont worry. There was no power discrepancy. Smothering tithe plus wheel is like 7/8 mana and needs no one to be playing blue? Also your opponents could have all chosen zero for wheel of misfortune. Then you would have gotten no treasures. Keep making in person games, was fun to watch!

[@papaburgundy20]

Awesome first step into filming/editing paper games!!

[@keaganrosario8230]

This was awesome, thanks for putting in the work to make this video. Would love to see more!

[@austinlange1410]

I appreciate the video! I love your commentary during your normal mtgo videos, but I can see you put in a lot of work! Great job!

[@broros6877]

Man u pop off at the end! Always happy to see boros angels.

[@Lollix87]

Big fan of paper Edh, surely it will help grow your channel. Love the content and I hope to find more in the future. Keep it going!

[@dangerfield6855]

Loved the paperness and commentary. Was gonna mention this KZbinr Maxmakesmagic, who played yuriko then mutated his commander Brokos onto it then played leadership vacuum putting BOTH into the command zone then ninjutsud yuriko out of the zone haha

[@mn6334]

I might be missing something but that's a pretty major misplay. Yuriko is a Human so without changing her creature types you can't mutate on her.

[@tommyrhyne6156]

I like paper games, I think you did a good job . I prefer games under 20 minutes, but I do think sharing your thought process and ideas of potential plays could be a good addition to the video. Keep up the good work.

[@oiobananaoio5830]

It was a good different from all the other commander content out there. A nice sized video got all the action wrapped up. Reminded me of the command zones quick games.

[@Thermobeatz2]

Enjoyed the video and commentary, looking forward to seeing more.

[@isaiahwelch8066]

Just to clarify, any mutated cards first go to the appropriate zone -- in the Oblation case, exile. As the Commander has moved zones, the Commander's owner then has the option of moving the Commander to the Command Zone. The same thing happens when a mutated creature goes to the graveyard: The entire creature, made of multiple cards, moves to the graveyard, then "breaks apart" into its component parts. The "breaking apart" happens before any "dies" triggers are put on the stack, as the "breaking apart" of a mutated creature is a state-based action that cannot be responded to.

[@Xileph410]

I enjoyed the paper game it will be nice to see them from time to time. Plus I love seeing your alts cards ^^

[@cats_like_felix]

Love this video! Found your channel via it too, so hope there will be more in the future.

[@CommanderReplay]

Awesome thanks! I havent decided on what frequency yet, but definitely not more than once a month.

[@rara2ra2yrra3racjj2]

Yeah, loved this! Keep them coming if you're able to, I enjoyed the commentary in particular!

[@neonron8812]

Like the paper magic. I know it is a ton of work, but the quality was great. Thank you.

[@ronitabick961]

Personally I subscribe to your channel because I like the live insight of someone playing a game who only knows public information. I'm not a huge fan of watching streamed games because I also find the board state hard to read. So this content isn't for me, but I imagine it might really appeal to others and you should definitely do what keeps you energised! Thank you for all the videos!

[@themoviewatcher]

Great job on this editing job...really enjoyed it...looking fwd to playing you in paper again soon...I don't know if I've ever beaten that angels deck...it is good

[@nitaipaonessa3996]

This was great to watch, more Aurelia angels please!

[@starcaptain55]

Nice. I like the paper format. If it turns out there is less demand than what is needed I would still suggest filming a game at least once every few months because I enjoy it when you branch out.

[@ebhoverman18]

I really liked this! Keep doing you, but I would def watch another

[@DivinePenguin00]

This was excellent! I want more!

[@admanios]

Pretty good game! Thank you for remembering to flip your camera to make for easier watching. :)

[@CommanderReplay]

Yeah theres a lot of little minutia like that to remember when doing this stuff.😄

[@tee918]

Always need more Aurelia

[@felipefspb]

That was really cool!

[@ThePeaceM8ker]

Always enjoy your content. I prefer watching your MTGO content. I think the difference between MTGO and paper magic for me is paper typically is more social which this style of video doesn't focus on. I like your commentary and deck building style which I think is easier to follow on MTGO

[@anthonyfinnimore7394]

I liked this format a lot and the game seemed pretty fun. Mavinda deck looked really good! Do you think this would be something you'd do with a regular playgroup or randos only? A couple of small tweaks that I would like to see: 1) Don't use alters on board if possible. If I miss something being cast then it's harder for me to work out what's in play 2) Please use the spelltable turn thing (orange box) or some other way to show whose turn it is

[@danielbrodeur816]

Dang, as neat as your angel deck looks, I'm always sad to see my boy Snapdax lose. Sweet game, stay cool.

[@CommanderReplay]

Yeah snapdax is a really cool commander. Id love to revisit it at some point, who knows when ill find that kind of time though.

[@Dalenthas]

I'm neither for nor against seeing more paper games on this channel. I know responses tend to be weighted towards people who have strong feelings one way or the other, so I figured I'd chime in on behalf of the middle ground.

[@fsp711]

Keep it up, fun stuff

[@brendanfutureman7150]

Real nice to see actual cards, pace of the game was great. Would work better aesthetically with a little more care taken with lighting (glare, etc.) and camera focus, but once you sort that out it'll be excellent. :)

[@fenixmeaney6170]

Yeah, we're interested

[@boneheadcycler1412]

Hey, PJ! Thank you for this video! I enjoyed seeing your paper angel deck. That said, I'm not sure that this format added anything to my viewing experience. HOWEVER, I think that spelltable/paper games would be a blast to watch if you allowed us to hear the natural banter of the players. It might also be less work for you, since you could just put the game audio on the video and edit out any deadspace.

[@CommanderReplay]

Great point, that is something to think about as well. Ill give it a look when I have some time. For now these will be somewhat rare because of how long they take.

[@kittycauthon]

I assume mutate works like meld in the case of removal. Both halves go to the same zone but the commander would have the choice of exile or command zone. Source (i run Buna the fading light)

[@CommanderReplay]

Yeah that sounds correct. Im fairly sure that the azra oddsmaker could have come back when monarch changed.

[@acuriouscase1931]

I enjoy your old format on mtgo, and if it’s less work for you thats what you should stick with. If you switched fully to paper I probably wouldn’t watch as much, the format you have now is clean and your commentary is the reason I watch your content.

[@mtgsalt1151]

It's good to have a mixture. By no means is this a switch to paper.

[@Thespqr1997]

i love paper games like this & enjoy all games on this channel (probably because you tainted so much that i morphed from being a mid-range control player with a superfriends deck to a stompy aggro player with way to many tribal decks, that tries to play 1-2 infect cards in each of his decks)

[@Dragynstone1202]

I enjoyed this content!

[@lostboyofthewest9811]

Loved it

[@huemungus5535]

Pretty nice. Funny how mtgo makes pacing those triggers easy to forget.

[@twowieners342]

That's me :)

[@tylerofdoom3565]

Love it

[@phithinker02]

Mono white can value. Who knew? :p

[@MidnightSessionUK]

Definitely enjoyed it. Probably didn't enjoy it relative to how long it took to make.

[@CommanderReplay]

Lol yeah i definitely get. Likely would have had 1-2 more normal videos this week without this behemoth of a project.

[@pretzelpop78]

Mavinda and Snapdex Nice

[@SnuggyDabbins]

My only opinion is you guys should try to get all your cameras in the same position as the top left player. We could clearly see everything he played. But your field was especially hard to make out at times.

[@jonram6009]

Don't think the power levels match and not sure if the angel deck would last that long at my local store tables

[@7someone]

PJ put that ( Angels doing Angel things )on your colors besides orange shirts.

[@CommanderReplay]

Lol, i I will think about it. Been thinking about new shirt designs.

[@unimaginative_artist]

Could be good, def feels like the first paper game maybe a little more refinement but good

[@TheGMGC1]

Nice game play sir. If you ever need an extra player let me know.

[@CommanderReplay]

Thanks will do! Based on current video performance these will be somewhat rare.

[@TheGMGC1]

@@CommanderReplay really?? Dam. I love me some paper MTG. You're fortunate to have very few people quit mid game on your mtgo games. I could see why it's easier to do it that way.

[@Horus025]

Both go to the comand zone

[@MIGUELSanchez-of6nj]

I wonder how my Gargos will hold up against your aurelia, it has no combo and very few removal pieces but it has a lot of card draw and spits out big creature like nobody's business

[@chimneyimp1486]

I prefer mtgo for the easier readability. most important to me is, that the games are not +2h in full length announcing a wrath beforehand seems fun vs white decks. 2 of them are protecting them against the wrath

[@CommanderReplay]

Lol yeah the wheels started turning once he said it. My turn was much different because of it. But someone had to do it cause the green deck was doing green things.

[@oiobananaoio5830]

NEVER DIDNT HAVE IT!!!!

[@kevinyeager3462]

Vid format reminded me of mtg muddstah channel. In all honesty tho I don’t see much of a difference considering the extra work you need to do. Its not like you can hear table talk. I’d just stick with the MTGO. You can see the cards better too on MTGO especially when you zoom in on it.

[@thesp1r1tdragon55]

I actually prefer mtgo videos because we can see your hand and think about the possible plays. Also, imo, the animation of the cards in the middle is a bit distracting. It would probably be better if they just appeared and disappeared again instead of zooming in and out.

[@CommanderReplay]

That is an easy change to make actually. The zoom just puts a little more motion in to keep the eye interested.

[@Starcraftgamer97]

Breaking News: Smothering Tithe is great and needs a reprint.

[@CommanderReplay]

Lol i dont know if that was the take away here. Some cards I like being expensive, mana crypt, mana drain. Any of the stuff that you dont really want to be seeing very often. People generally just limit those cards to their strongest decks, then you dont have to face them when your playing something truly mid powered.