Paragliding (wingover fail)

[@vg5601]

This collapse had nothing to do with brake control. Your weightshift was too late.

[@matiasschoner]

I agree 100% the plan was to turn into an asymmetric spiral (and then dissipate the energy, like ground spiral practice) but changed last second... Complacent to be indecisive and reckless for so low... thank you for your input ☺

[@matiasschoner]

@@Random-es7yo looking back at the video that^*^ looks most likely =) ^*^break input too late I believe that even if a lot of brake had been pulled at a more appropriate time, the timing issue on weight shift + the fact there wasn't that much energy would at least throw the wingover off* What I mean with the energy is imagine you have way too much (deep spiral with this glider say (and most I would imagine)) then you'll be forced to brake extraordinarily later (psychologically speaking) to prevent a loop motion, after all you're looking for a wingover. A great way to practice I find is getting wingovers from comfy (psychologically relative so you progress SLOWLY) wingovers to smaller ones in a controlled way (and bigger again in two turns (basically get them back to high energy/high error tolerance again if you're trying at the edge of stall) then smaller again It changes a lot with the glider but you'll know you understand it when you're more comfortable with high energy versus getting them through the bad zone of enough energy to be spicy but not so much as to help if that makes sense *when you're starting out especially, exit a wingover if its not feeling right and try again (practice correcting separately, its scary enough when you expect to do it haha) hope it helps =)

[@matiasschoner]

@@Random-es7yo happy to help =) (a few more tips) you get to know the timing from weight shift only wingovers really well! then with brakes focus on the outside hand (at least for me when I stoped focusing on the other one it became a lot easier) if you want to start big wingovers fast you can (nearly) spin the wing so it points almost towards the ground and go from there more performant/dynamic (acro gliders have meh performance after all) gliders tend to be more forgiving due to the higher energy, a A or B glider in the lower weigh range is way harder to get neat wingovers than a C or uncertified acro glider or same wing overweighted a super important part is the gaining energy period when the wing dives, go hands up. Try getting the moment you go hands up and dive straight to be sooner (instead of correcting into a clean dive) this is another way of saying do a good looking wingover haha When you're at the softest moments you might as well brake a whole lot and then gain energy with hands up (with higher rated gliders the weight shift will kick them around very swiftly so you can maintain the hand up for longer) also, practice backfly it'll make a world of diference in a real world stall/huge cravat situation hope you get on safe, cheers =)

[@MrAlias]

3:12 could that of gone south or is there always room for resetting the chute? Caught me off guard!

[@matiasschoner]

You can recover from most collapses, break the surge and the aerofoil does it for you really... Still, getting under a reserve takes time so at this height for sure super dangerous =s

[@MrAlias]

@@matiasschoner crazy stuff! Great vid.

[@matiasschoner]

@@MrAlias Thanks =D

[@cabanford]

Wingovers with no brake control is gonna bite you sooner or later.

[@dougfoster445]

Great video. Love the song too!

[@matiasschoner]

Thank you :D working on a longer one (several songs) now with a remixed (longer) version of this song :) thanks again for your kind words : )

[@matiasschoner]

out now :DDD kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWW6eICbopJperc song starts around 4:30 mark

[@Guggurutz]

Whats the songs name? I like it 😅

[@matiasschoner]

Gengis by Polo and Pan =) they made a longer version (red axes remix) you can hear it in my aravis video =)

[@flywhy]

Great flight! Great place

[@matiasschoner]

thank you for your kind words friend =)

[@ivicatic]

Just more pressure on the external one :) common error when practicing wingovers. at the moments, as its not the acro glider, you need to pull simetrically and deeper, trick is to keep the pressure the same as in normal flight. External break is not so dangerous, but internal if collapses can bring big issues. Hope you don't mind my hints :) great video though, and nice area to fly!!

[@matiasschoner]

thanks! to be honest I don't think any amount of break input would keep the glider open as the timing was way off but yeah, thank you again

[@ivicatic]

@@matiasschoner of course at some momentums hands up to gather the energy :) take a look at Theo de Blic tutorial ;) i am following his guides and my acro trainer actually confirmed that Theo is really good when it comes to explaining. I am doing acro while learning with 1:1 acro pilot, but if course, once the course is done, you are on your own ;) off topic: one reserve is none, two is one when it comes to acro 🤣🤣🤪

[@riverrose3089]

damn homie , leave some more height for the antics.

[@matiasschoner]

in my defense, I was trying to lose height

[@SuperAnatolli]

As other has mensionerd: To little brake. But the glider recovered great! Like a B-wing (I guess it is EN-D).

[@matiasschoner]

yup! it sure did xdd With the amount of energy you could probably have gotten away with doing nothing... keep in mind the brakes were for a moment below the harness. This wing (Peak 4 from niviuk, 21m version(70-90km)) is super forgiving until it collapses (honestly even collapses are gentler than most two liners, frontals suck tho) With bar is a different story, its a real speeddemon on full bar. I totally recommend it as a first two liner tho 😁 love this wing

[@h58014]

Yeah, at that point no amount of brake would stop it, talking from personal experience :)

[@kABUSE1]

Way too low for comfort

[@МарјанАнгелески]

Pozdrav od krusevo makedonija

[@matiasschoner]

муито обригадо 🙂

[@glidewillie5767]

Don't do that

[@draconisgubernator]

horrible music!

[@matiasschoner]

Are you serious? I thought it was the best feature xDDD im open to suggestions, any ideas? thank you for commenting 😍

[@draconisgubernator]

@@matiasschonerThe problem with this music is that the percussion is simple and repetitive. In the music that accompanies images, there should not be such a preponderant and simple rhythmic base. At first if you look it is much better but when the battery starts it becomes annoying. Just an opinion.