2017 BMW 335D DRIVING POV/REVIEW // THE BEST DIESEL CAR?

[@sebbekartellen6493]

i just bought a 2018 335d in mint condition and i love it. the best car i have ever owned

[@trsisko]

is it still mint after 2 months? what was the mileage on this baby?

[@sebbekartellen6493]

@@trsiskoi haven't had any issues with the car yet. mileage is not super high at 10.700km. I also have an old bmw 335d from 2006 that still runs like a dream after 42.000 km. These engines can almost last forever if you keep up with maintenance.

[@Koorvkungen]

@@sebbekartellen6493 Add a 0?

[@marktownsend9333]

I own one and it’s amazing jaw dropping performance plus great mileage to the Gallon with four dogs roof box + my partner on holiday trips you can surprise anything with this car

[@scandals657]

Definitely don't use a magic sponge on the steering wheel. It will absolutely ruin it and remove the black dye very quickly. A light leather cleaner or bmw leather wipes is your best bet. Clean with one cloth and dry with another and you are winning. Great video by the way. I've had mine remapped by celtic tuning and its an absolute rocket. 772nm of torque is insane coupled with 400bhp, not many cars on the road today can compete with it. Best all-rounder car in my opinion, I don't see me changing it any time soon and I've owned it nearly 3 years 😊

[@SpectreGroup063]

The magic sponge is brutal

[@MrZillas]

My S-Class has 455 hp and 700 Nm stock...... rumors say, it's actually 490 hp at 770 Nm stock. Gasoline, no diesel.

[@JebusCripes]

@@MrZillas So not comparable then...

[@IDRIS-wl3qy]

How has the x drive been? Is it reliable thank you.

[@0brand0brand34]

It’s the Swiss Army knife of the car world. It literally does everything. Doesn’t even bottom out over speed bumps. Was going to lower it on ACS springs, but I’ve got used to the slightly-too-high stance and the number of speed bumps where I live made it a no-no.

[@gouldianuk9875]

Currently own a top spec 2017 35d touring with little over 50k on the clock and I absolutely love the drive! The car has pretty much everything other than pan roof and electric seats, even the kids have heated rear seats for in the winter, heated steering wheel is a nice touch on chilly mornings, adaptive M suspension changes things up in sport and sport plus modes. All in the extras alone were just a tad shy of 14k extra, coming from a top spec e90 35d this thing is a serious upgrade and great all rounder for family or fun, going to be a hard one to give up at some point in the future. If you’re considering buying one, find a good one and you won’t regret it!

[@georgekyriacou9331]

Get one of these with just a stage 1 map and stage 3 Xhp gearbox map u are FLYING

[@brianfreeman8290]

What a fantastic review ! Someone who has properly done his homework and has the power of expression to put you in the seat. Consider me subscribed.

[@nathanscaddan2297]

Great review.... Ive got a 2017 Bmw335d xdrive lci, bought it standard and then tuned it. currently fastest with stock turbos in the world, 0-60 in 2.9, 1/4 mile in 11.2, 30-70 in 2.7. Absolutely love it as the best all rounder, ive had very powerful rwd skylines in the past and they are fun but only usable power in perfect dry conditions. ;-)

[@mattwilliams1479]

What tuning have you had done mate?

[@Thuds593]

Do I need to be worried about timing chains with these ?

[@nathanscaddan2297]

@@mattwilliams1479 My car will be up for sale in a month or so time ☺️

[@nathanscaddan2297]

@@Thuds593 no, as long as you turn off the start stop feature.

[@bobmarley6161]

Probably the best car in the world in real world especially the touring....

[@Jerpy]

The middle lane stuff is the same up here in Manchester! It’s really annoying.

[@faisalkayaanmeekah]

Was just about to say this lol

[@Kraken2681994]

And Glasgow / Edinburgh M8 motorway

[@darrenastbury5280]

I have a 2016 335d touring...like it but my old 330d E91 touring still pulls on my heart strings!!

[@marcelb2912]

I own a 2006 330d E90 with a Stage 1 tune. 270 bhp and 625 Nm and a 6-speed manual. It's an absolute sleeper and a blast to drive. The old M57 is a bulletproof monster. Love it.

[@mattwilliams1479]

Ive got a 2010 mapped e92 330d manual....had it 11years....its got 175k on it now....still a hoot to drive n keeps up with a lot of new stuff. Plus i prefer the hydraulic steering over the f series epas. Im gonna go m4 or 435d next..still undecided....brain says 435d but heart says m4 n the m4 just looks so mean

[@antonystarling]

I have a 335d m sport touring , also had a 435d m sport. Quite simply amazing car. Your review is spot on and very on point Ty. I would say out of the touring and 435d the touring wins due to the practicality of an estate, both cars excel.

[@wdbaudio]

Fantastic review, lots of information and very thorough description of everyday living with this car. I'm torn between one of these and the V6 TDI Audi A4 or A5. Also spot on about the M25, lane discipline seems to go out the window and everyone sits at 60mph!

[@wilspu5590]

🤪

[@trsisko]

Hi mate which car did you buy in the end?@@wilspu5590

[@marcushumphrey3010]

Which one did you go with I’m in the same situation

[@landl190372]

Just got the 435d because I needed the hatchback. It's glorious.

[@SuperDeadlen]

Looking at them too, sounds like I should hold out for adaptive suspension.

[@Michael-lj3lm]

It’s between 335d and 435d for me how are you finding owning one?

[@landl190372]

@@Michael-lj3lm It's been brilliant so far. Nice refined cruiser and family car when you need it but properly fast and exhilarating to drive when you want some fun. Too early to say anything about reliability, but so far so good. Advertised MPG is a pure fiction though. Low 30s is realistic for enthusiastic driving unless you do a lot of motorway miles.

[@JoshXCVIII]

@@landl190372I’m looking at getting one but don’t do many miles, is it worth it you think?

[@MorganMoogle]

Just bought a fully loaded 67 plate 335d x drive. Getting it mapped next week!

[@brianiswrong]

I borrowed a friend's new 335d for a quick blast, omg flooring it from standstill, it seemed to consider what to do for a few milli seconds ,then just buggered off at a rate of knots which iam not proud of😇.

[@mihaigraur2217]

Hopefully you will find a 225d to review! I would love to see that and you will love to drive it! Great vids!!

[@Jo3man96]

I’d strongly consider a F31 335d Touring if I had a decently long commute, but the office is only 1 and a half miles away from home, and I work from home two days a week. Absolute weapon of a car though.

[@shanecolton3500]

That roar!!!!! Who said diesel is dead!!!

[@samuelkimkung9532]

I find with the latest android 15 beta the battery life and overall fluidity of the phone improved drastically.

[@Ariozo111]

Love my 330d and easy car to tune for very solid power, but my 320d still is my goto car for daily use. :) Not same power and maybe not as "fun" but solid power and you go forever on one tank.

[@Godot28]

What year is your 320d?

[@stebrad123]

Ive got a 335d GT Xdrive. What a car

[@johndgn]

Good review, thinking of getting 335d touring as had 335d coupe from 2007 to 2014, work and play did 250k miles quite easily. Went through a few springs, i think they were a bit on the small side but can't remember much other probs

[@Matwiej19]

So I had bmw x5 35d and did 167k with out any engien problem. Yet did not knownthen that had to change the oili in the gearbox plus the rear air suspension went. And to be honest that is all. The gearbox was my fault as just did not get enough information. But the engine, change oil once a year or every 8k miles. And I sold the car with 167k. Of course changed for the newer x5 with 40d

[@jamesianson8586]

Great review, real easy to watch didn't have to skip a second. I have the 335d F31 and I bloody love it! Absolutely rips, and can get dog and bikes etc in the back or on the roof easy as. Would highly recommend this vehicle for fun and practicality! I will get a stage 1 map in the new year and see how she pulls after that...should be scary quick.

[@35dd]

So, did u remap it? And how do u like it

[@davestar4718]

I'm getting one tomorrow. Got a fiesta st at the minute. Gonna be fun

[@35dd]

@@davestar4718 night and day difference enjoy 😉

[@TheZar76]

You put your dog on the roof . That's wild

[@35dd]

@@TheZar76 🤣🤣🤣

[@Kerman_von_Braun]

Once you get a bmw 3.0 d for your dd, its really hard to go back to anything else. Theres basically no downsides to the engine

[@Godot28]

Which model do you have? I'm looking at getting a 330d x drive, but it'd proving hard to find my desired spec within my budget....😅

[@Kerman_von_Braun]

@@Godot28 i got an e46 330d atm (rwd manual). Its a great car and i honestly dont have many complaints, tho, ive owned it for close to 4 years now so im currently in the process of upgrading to an e92 335d :P

[@Godot28]

@Kerman_von_Braun ah nice! Love the E46. Had a 2001 325Ci years ago and it was a dream to drive. Loved the sound of that straight 6 petrol too.

[@johnshaw8013]

Couldn't agree more. I'm a 335D owner, it is a weapon. The only thing I dislike is the stance... its far too high on the wheels. Yet the front bumper is low... Lower it and you smash the front end on speed bumps and parking lots! Best car I ever owned though, until the adaptive LED headlights started failing at 5yr old and parts alone is £1650 for one side, plus fitting which is 3hrs labour at over £140/hr

[@sebbekartellen6493]

i have noticed that too. front bumper is really low but the sides and back are high. i'm not gonna lower my car anyway though because it's my daily driver and i want to keep it nice and comfy for longer drives

[@johnshaw8013]

@sebbekartellen6493 lowering it won't reduce comfort. The Xdrive variants come from factory with SE suspension instead of the MSport suspension that the rwd variants have. Difference is around +25mm in ride height. Changing the standard Bridgestone Potenza S001 runflats for something like a Michelin PS4 will have a much bigger affect on ride quality. Also the Eibach lowering springs which are 20% stiffer and 20mm lower are incidentally exactly the same as the AC Schnitzer kit that BMW sell, yet they are less than half the price!

[@nancyhood8395]

Police use 330d because of reliability, ,330d is single twin scroll turbo ,where 335d has two turbos

[@ra55575]

heated seats are essential on these big engines as like you said it takes 20mins of fast driving to heat it up. Speakers are poor so HK is needed for anyone that listens to anything other than LBC. ProNav isnt needed as such but will put a lot of buyers off, if the interior is already dated having a small screen exacerbates that. The electric seats are imo not needed so thats the one id skip (/i did skip).

[@TheBeastBo55]

So the bmw 330d and 335d Xdrive M sport looks has the SE suspension ? did i say it right or wrong

[@Interisti2506]

I HAVE JUST BOUGHT A 335D tourer, i pick it up on thursday

[@Thuds593]

How is it today ?

[@ShInYaKu88]

i love my F31 335d and i drive it 40k km per year but it makes me sad that the day will come when i have to sell it. i think i will buy a 335d again but LCI :D

[@alexhiggins7307]

Love my 330d XDrive. The perfect all rounder with a decent amount of grunt.

[@Islam_is_the_truth.4]

Give it a stage 1 map and remove the dpf

[@Godot28]

Does it also have the SE suspension because of the x drive?

[@Islam_is_the_truth.4]

@michaeltaylor2799 It does unfortunately but you can upgrade to sports aftermarket sports suspension

[@Godot28]

@abutate999 thanks for the reply. I had a 320d x drive and actually found the ride ok. Big fan of the grip on the x drive, just want a big more power, so looking at getting a 330d x drive next.

[@Islam_is_the_truth.4]

@michaeltaylor2799 Why don't you go for 335d they're getting cheap now and you got the bi turbo rocket

[@kidda74]

Someone has put those Chinese M3 door mirror covers on, actually looks quite good!

[@daltonmx91]

What's the better choice out of Xdrive over the rear wheel drive only thing that puts Me off with the Xdrive is the se suspension

[@modmod392]

Turn the start stop off pleeeease

[@marktownsend9333]

Great review 📦✅

[@endlessrage4062]

Nice bit of motorway undertaking… 😊

[@ulfb10]

Fantastic car, but Alpina D3 is on another level.

[@wilspu5590]

But it’s gay

[@TinCup73]

Great video 👍

[@rossbethell4187]

Tom you are doing some really great reviews with proper real world insight to what is important! Really useful! Thanks PS- Alpina D3……..?😉

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

One day hopefully!

[@thefiestaguy8831]

Not sure what I'm doing wrong, but I've got a 67 plate 335D X drive. I do a mix of higher speed motorway driving and dual carriageways but a lot of the "to work" journeys are on slower B roads with a 30-40mph limit. I've never seen 50MPG in the 9 months I've owned It and the 24,000 miles I've covered in it. The best I recall seeing is around 39-40MPG as a one-off cruising in eco mode from Ashford to Sidcup on the M20. Mine has had the EGR cooler recall completed months ago. Still love it to bits but I hear people talking about "40-50 MPG" a lot and I've never seen it go above 40 really. 99% of the time it's between 35 and 38mpg. I even did a trip computer reset so it starts the average calculation again and still didn't get above 38mpg across those 6,000 miles. I'm on runflat tyres which I plan to change soon, Michelin Primacy 3 on the front and Michelin Pilot Sport 4 Zero Pressure on the rears. Plan to go to Pilot Sport 4's on all 4 corners within the next few months.

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

are you driving in comfort/eco mode? If so then there could be something wrong with your car.

[@thefiestaguy8831]

@@ParagonCarsLondon I rarely use Eco mode as I find the pedal completely mushy, and to build up speed (ie joining a dual carriageway/motorway) in Eco mode takes forever. I use comfort mode probably 80% of the time and sometimes put the gearbox into sport mode. The rest of the time, being every now and then I use sport mode. Usually only for perhaps 10-15 minutes but on the odd drive I'll use it for the majority of the time, depending on the road conditions, traffic and visibility.

[@williamsteventon6191]

My F30 335d is doing around the same as yours i get 38-40 mpg in eco pro average motorway dual carriage ways and town combined driving conservatively , In comfort i get around 35 mpg driving normally , I work it out when if fill up the computer always says it's doing better mpg , I had the same car previously which was stage 1+ remapped that did about the same mpg , Nothing wrong with your car 50 mpg is a fantasy .

[@thefiestaguy8831]

@@williamsteventon6191 I actually reset the trip computer (which was working out the average over the 6,500 miles i'd done since last reset). Since then on a spirited drive I get 35-40mpg easily and on a longer dual carriageway/motorway run at between 70 and 75 I get 42-50mpg.

[@derekporter66]

640d long term average is 37 mpg. maybe 2% is giving it some. 80% motorway. these get nowhere near claimed figures.

[@wolfqlf2287]

I’m looking for one with less then 100k kilometers but i can’t Find any in Europe :(

[@MrThehowlinator]

I would love to see you do a review of the 5 series

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

Will add to the list!

[@MrThehowlinator]

@@ParagonCarsLondon Thanks, would be interesting to see your thoughts on that vs a 4 Series GC

[@thomaskilboyle2352]

Is it worth changing to one of these from a g30 520d 2017 to a 2014 335d

[@gouldianuk9875]

Simply put, yes, if you find a well looked after good spec model.

[@JR19k]

I got one of these. Remapped it. I beat lambos and mclarens. Yes sir

[@doms_cinema]

my 535d on stage 1 has 777 torque :P

[@minhajuddin1769]

How reliable are these? And roughly what mpg do they get if only being driven around town?

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

surprisingly reliable and you get around 35mpg driving round town

[@barrywatts8501]

Carbon build up is a problem . I had to replace the small turbo at 60.000 miles. 34 mpg is about right. I got the F34 so it's bigger. Massive boot and leg room in the back is amazing. Love my car. It's a rocket!

[@georgekyriacou9331]

From owning one and planting foot 50% of the time I get about 23mpg

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

@@georgekyriacou9331 🤣

[@Brad-vk3nd]

@@georgekyriacou9331smiles per gallon 😎 I’m looking to pick one on Wednesday, hopefully a nice change from my 320D!

[@JoshXCVIII]

I really want a BMW, is it worth going for a diesel if I only drive 10 mins to and from work everyday?

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

not if it's a short commute. Doing short commutes in diesels is bad for them as it clogs up the dpf

[@JoshXCVIII]

@@ParagonCarsLondon okay thank you bud👌

[@phiIip488]

@@ParagonCarsLondoncan you not just removed the dpf

[@gouldianuk9875]

I did the exact same thing for 7 years in my e90 35d with no problems, just don’t be overly spirited on the drive as temps won’t get up. I’m currently doing it in a f31 35d and again, no issues. Just take it for a nice long drive once a month to regen the dpf 👍

[@georgekyriacou9331]

You forgot the HUD option probably the best option if u ask me

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

i’d say that’s more of a nice to have. Definitely worth getting if you can afford it though.

[@danish1760]

335D are the best!! Love mine e90 335d rwd. Thinking to buy a 335d F30.. but it is 4wd.. 2wd is more fun.. any tips or advice?

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

i’d stick with your e90 unless you want more modern tech on the inside. The e90 335D is just awesome.

[@ulfb10]

Alpina D3 is very nice!

[@ronniep9272]

Just get an F30 330D and remap it.

[@steveng5503]

You mentioned this car, an msport model is fitted with se suspension. Is that correct? Do msport models not come with sport suspensions as standard? Also, if that’s the case how does one differentiate between the two by looking? Thanks. Clearly a helpful video. ✌️👍🇬🇧

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

Yes, for some reason bmw decided to fit SE springs to this as standard on all 335D's. You could get adaptive dampers at the time which helped but it's a very rare option. Best option is to go for an aftermarket suspension system if you want really dialed in handling.

[@lupo10]

If you get a 330D Msport you get different suspension but on xdrive models it doesn’t come with the MSport suspension.

[@jh4l]

So do all m sport xdrive models come w/ se suspension? Is it only the m sport sdrive models that come m sport suspension?

[@Islam_is_the_truth.4]

​@@jh4lAll of them come standard with it

[@gouldianuk9875]

@@jh4lif you can vin check the bmw before buying it then the adaptive suspension is option S2VF “Adaptive M Chassis” 👍

[@sebbekartellen6493]

i prefer the 2017 640d but they are just way to expensive

[@daltonmx91]

How is it 330bhp aren't they 308bhp standard,or as it been mapped??

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

i said 313 horsepower 🤣

[@daltonmx91]

@Paragon Cars London my apologies, I'm looking at getting a 330d or 335d such nice cars, just don't what to chose from out of the 330d or 335d and then it's the decision to go rear wheel drive or all 4 wheels 😀

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

@@daltonmx91 Can’t go wrong tbh. 335D is a monster though and feels pretty rear wheel drive

[@johnshaw8013]

You shouldn't be adjusting your seat whilst driving!!! That should be done before you set off! The manual seats are miles quicker to adjust, I know, as I have a 335d with manual seats. As I am the only driver, electric seats would be a waste of money.

[@12tribes61]

What’s turbo lag like?

[@khimaros]

Non existent as long as you keep the revs up ins manual I.e, don’t try to leave a roundabout at 18mph in 3rd and floor it, you’ll experience lag. Leave in second, no issue. With the zf8 auto gearbox it will automatically drop it for you in about 0.2 seconds and you’ll be off like a rocket.

[@12tribes61]

@@khimaros so best to use manual shift pads to avoid lag?

[@khimaros]

@@12tribes61 leaving it in auto you’ll never experience turbo lag, the auto box shifts so fast and will get you in the right gear. Only way you’ll experience lag is either in manual mode, (auto box) or with a manual gearbox and you selecting the wrong gear.

[@petehira1594]

Stiffer springs aren't as good in this car, be careful if u have some fitted, she lets go on a bumpy bend this heavy car will make u the passenger.

[@minhajuddin1769]

335d or an m140i?

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

ooo, 140i for me.

[@sebbekartellen6493]

f30 335d with a 400hp tune and straight pipe exhaust. i'm not a big fan of those small 1-series. i used to own a 2013 m135i though. they are nice quick cars but i prefer the size and style of the 3-series

[@Birmingham_racing]

30-70 results prove diesels are about midrange torque not 0-60

[@neilmcguinness4422]

The 30-70 sprint has always been a benchmark figure for real world overtaking ability. The mighty Lotus Carlton for instance only had a modest 0-60 figure of 5.1 seconds, but when it was up and rolling and all it's 419 lb of torque was coming in it FLEW. It's 30-70 sprint was measured in Autocar back in the day (@1990) at only 3.8 seconds and was the real measure of this brutal car's performance. And the 335d is in the same supercar league as an overtaking tool. Even more so in wet and damp conditions thanks to it's traction control and X-Drive system.

[@rejoicerone3176]

@@neilmcguinness4422 its hot hatch territory in terms of 30 to 70 i think, the times say that it is Golf R fast 30 to 70 and thats with the 335d having 200nm more torque

[@neilmcguinness4422]

@@rejoicerone3176 I think that both the Golf 7 R and 335d are both quoted at 4.3 seconds for 30-70. Which is not hanging about. 👍

[@TG-mt6ke]

​@@neilmcguinness4422 4.1 for the 335d. slightly quicker than a golf r.

[@neilmcguinness4422]

@@TG-mt6ke I was surprised to see the Seat Cupra 300 DSG recording a 30-70 time of 3.9 seconds on test. These things are not to be underestimated when up and rolling. In the dry at least.

[@jamesphilipson1289]

Waited the whole time to see whether you'd have the same gripe as me - no digital speedo in the centre and the analog dial is too awkward to keep an eye on behind the wheel. I just find the dials nasty to look at and dated looking, this was my feels when I had a 320d, did my head in!

[@georgekyriacou9331]

You can get that coded in mate

[@TG-mt6ke]

​@@georgekyriacou9331 much does that cost?

[@georgekyriacou9331]

@@TG-mt6ke any coder should do it a long with a host of other unlock-able features I paid around £50

[@kingofironfist0]

I coded it in myself, cant remember if it was bimmercode or carista.

[@addy4524]

The standard system is horrendous. Harman Kardon is much better

[@ArmadilloGodzilla]

In the top 90th percentile? So only 10% of cars are worse. 😂😂😂

[@kierenduff8534]

People middle lane hog on all motorways

[@jcytf8333]

I hate uk bmw reviews cause the cars cannot be properly tested, uk is not Germany!!! Shit isn't it 😅

[@ParagonCarsLondon]

Yeah we really need an autobahn haha.

[@bobtudbury8505]

this is just a waffle review , really poor

[@bobtudbury8505]

@hmamotivation use 75% less words, yanks go on and on and on....dumbing down or like to hear themselves talk !!

[@JustAThought916]

dream car

[@sebbekartellen6493]

i have one. a 2018 m-sport model with alcantara seats and adaptive cruise control and everything. i just bought the full alcantara + carbon fiber interior for over 3000gbp. very expensive but looks so good

[@Jo3man96]

I’d strongly consider a F31 335d Touring if I had a decently long commute, but the office is only 1 and a half miles away from home, and I work from home two days a week. Absolute weapon of a car though.