Paramotor Vlog - EOS Quattro NEW 4-stroke

[@PPGGORILLA]

My questions are, weight, fuel burn, thrust if possible. Also curious what the maintenance intervals are to change oil etc. Thanks Paul!

[@tpj1959]

Dude's a noob. He can't make a good review. It could take years to get the information you're looking for. Sorry for being an asshole, it's just that there's only 10 like this and they give it to this guy. It's like handing over the motor to me for a review. "I haven't flown a single flight and I have this motor I'm going to review." The school I was going to go to fly quads with 4 strokes. You probably know all the advantages and disadvantages already. The head instructor at the school thinks the moster 185 is more powerful and snappy than the 4 strokes. If this thing can match the snappiness of the two stroke then it will be a game changer. If it can't, then it's back to quad service for this engine. And this guy hasn't flown enough different engines go give a credible review.

[@PARANOOB]

FFS Tim... watch the review videos that follow this one.. I get a Moster pilot to do a 1 hr flight and give you his review. We weigh it etc and compare it as fully as we can to a Bailey and a Moster. You're right, I'm not the guy to do a review, so I got the required pilots in to make a video. Best wishes chap! 😊👍

[@tpj1959]

PARANOOB Thanks. I will. My dealer is now pushing the Minari. He asked if I wanted the Moster or Minari. I will get to try both this September during training. He says everybody has been choosing the Minari after flying both. I guess I’ll then start a channel Paranoob II. ✌️

[@PPGGORILLA]

@@PARANOOB Don't worry about the guy with 3 subscribers and no paramotor videos. Carry on @PARANOOB

[@DanielJonesParamotor]

1. Actual burn 2. Engine Weight (well just a specs sheet) 3. How easy is it to start? 4. Maintenance intervals 5. Does it vent oil? 6. When is it likely to be on the market? 7. Estimated retail price?

[@paulfouche2127]

Awesome opportunity Paul. Looking forward to the review!!!

[@vincentmdr]

How are the vibrations during flight compared to 2-stroke engines? What are the now known issues that are rising up whilst testing these 10 engines?

[@clauberparatrike2879]

I would like to know how hard is make the maintenance yourself. Thank you.

[@therealeugenecussons]

Hats off to you mate! Tucker Gott can learn something from you - when you short experience in a certain department, be humble enough to admit it. I like your attitude and support your effort 👏🏻👏🏻 Great vids!

[@paulshotan278]

I've seen it, touched it, heard it, watched it fly and as I designed the Quattro logo I may be somewhat biased but believe me this is a sweet, sexy game changer of a machine.

[@gerrycollins9409]

My question, how similar in power is this motor to the Moster 185?

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Paul, one question that you might need Wasp to ask is, what is the sustained full power time. I know some engines have a limited time they can be run for. Will Wasp be holding the spares or with they be direct from EOS.

[@PARANOOB]

Yes, good one! Nigel mentioned the Bailey manual says 5 mins... thought of your altitude attempt.. 😳

[@XenoVI]

Questions Thrust/power Response , compared to a 2 stroke Does it have a radiator if not how are they getting away with not having one Does really burn the fuel at the rate they say more or less Can't wait for the video been waiting to hear about this motor for sometime now... Cheers

[@manofsan]

@@XenoVI is a radiator really necessary for a small engine that's flying in the sky?

[@harry-knight]

As well as the total weight, what's the weight distribution? Does it sit close to the back or hang weight away from the shoulders? Is the weight evenly distributed or is it top/bottom heavy?

[@hereward2001]

1) What is the tank capacity? 2) is it fuel injected? 3) if so what is the charging output of the alternator? (I’m thinking ancillaries)

[@LucasPitcher13]

Saw the title, thought you'd switched sides to Canon!! Phew... ;-) How lovely to be able to play with cool new kit!

[@PARANOOB]

😁

[@David65702]

Everything Gorilla said and how much longer is it "suppose" to last before a rebuild than a 2 stroke and is there a big difference in carburetors? or is it EFI?. Can you put a 4 barrel holly double pumper on it or can you make it a hemi lol.

[@ThomasGrillo]

I know Tucker's done a prop comparison vid, but I'd really like to get your perspective on the various prop types, as to what you feel is most comfortable, vibration wise, and most efficient. Thanks for the video.

[@PARANOOB]

Only ever flown Helix, so not something I know anything about.. Maybe in the future. 👍

[@clearprop]

Can't add anything to the questions that have already been posed, but I'm definitely looking forward to the vid. 👍

[@flyingkaiinthesky2917]

Waiting years for this !!!

[@sillstars]

Torque would be interesting to know, any difference from a 2 stroke engine? Can you lay the motor down or does it need to stand up because of the oil? What happens if toy land on you hands an knees and the motor is running?

[@PARANOOB]

Will try not to find out the answer to that last one! 😆 That said, done it many time with my Bailey with no ill affects..

[@Adrenalinspunk]

Id like to see what sort of torque it produces and how much compensation you would need to fly in a straight line

[@justharryjohnson7250]

What I would like to know is when is the pmc Cornwall fly in happening lol. What's the cost of just the engine ?

[@ryanrabdau5615]

I want to know how difficult it is to pull start? Performance 4 strokes usually have high compression. Some 4 strokes have a slight release valve to hold while starting, so does it have anything like that to assist during the start. I love 4 stroke engine over 2 stroke. I hope this engine proves to be one of the best. Thanks.

[@markallisonparamotor]

Will it be available in UK? What is the after-sales service like? How easy is it for an average bloke to service themselves bearing in mind 2 strokes are pretty easy, even I can do it. Direct comparisons of thrust, weight and drag. Will this engine be available with other brands? e.g. Parajet, Bulldog? What's the hang point? low/mid/high?

[@Adrenalinspunk]

4 strokes can be a night mare if you have little or no experience due to the timing of cams if u get that wrong u bend valves and the fun begins

[@PARANOOB]

Easier than a 2-stroke Mark, certainly in the case of my Bailey. Check valve gaps every 10 hours, basic service now and again. I do oil, filter, plug and boot.

[@Adrenalinspunk]

And the other thing is depending on what valves they use is how much it could cost as if they go wrong and they use titanium valves you cant relap them as it takes the coating off and they are no good where as steel valves if its got them you can lap there as many times as u like as long as the seat is good.

[@TimPriestChannel]

Game changer. If it's even close to some of the rumoured specs then the world is about to change for the quieter. Can't wait for the review, Noob :)

[@paulshotan278]

Sounds like a well oiled sewing machine ........... next to a purring cat.

[@rolandhoeller2]

Does it have a clutch?

[@jertee227]

Hey, were you flying over grendon area again last weekend? Thought I saw you!

[@PARANOOB]

Not me. :)

[@totparatot378]

how much vibration when you are up there sitting on it? compare to cellphone vibration in your pocket as your vibration meter or could be jackhummer ( regular construction use)

[@rolandhoeller2]

Can it be transported vertically without oil coming out of the engine or getting into the insides of the engine where it shouldn't be?

[@1falconron]

How is the motor doing now? What has broke or need replaced, As of 12 / 2023

[@PARANOOB]

Hi! I only borrowed it for a week or two. Not sure it ever went into production. 😕

[@clippedwing-bensmith1614]

Think of the potential! The sound though, oh that engine sound is like music! Good luck!

[@PPGtrikepilot]

Paul , the rumour always has been that there is less power per cc in a four stroke because they are usually heavier it would be nice to know what you find.

[@gwtdrago]

Will the motor be available to different paramotor frame manufacturers, or just exclusive to Wasp?

[@PARANOOB]

Answers in following 2 vids. 👍

[@AirbornePirates]

Real world weight of the motor, vs what it says on the spec sheet 👍

[@hexdelete]

As a Bailey V5s owner, I am curious what kind of support from EOS I could expect, as the support from Bailey has been non-existent.

[@gordonrobertson6599]

Baileys support is good. I gets parts quicker than any other engine supplier.

[@sexonlegs666]

@@gordonrobertson6599 Yep I have had no problem with support [e-mail] goes to Jon who works Tue-Thur

[@paulshotan278]

From my own personal experience WASP and EOS give genuinely personal and impeccable customer service.

[@PPGBIRD]

Where did you get the sticker added to your wing on the underside?

[@PARANOOB]

A company called The Loft I think.

[@BlueMax333]

What is the static thrust? What are the latest weights? Has the company given an indication of the TBO? The Quattro has been under development for well over 3 years. When will it enter production and offered for sale?

[@PARANOOB]

check the next two videos..

[@johnling4299]

Most important question Paul....How much will it cost? ...Id Love a ferrari but.......and when is it coming out?

[@joseferrer8738]

Engine weight is interesting, but I'm more interested in the all up weight difference between this engine setup compared to something people have in the field. The Wasp web site shows mostly EOS 150s so the all up ready to fly minus fuel weight difference between the two frames with a 150 vs a Quattro would be the most beneficial to me. I'm also looking at the new Polini 202 but I can't make an honest guess of the expected weight difference when they list the weight without coolant. If you could put otherwise identical motor rigs on scales next to each other that would be great. Thrust on a bench and fuel burn would be good, again vs something like the 150. The rest is negotiable.

[@PARANOOB]

A couple of those are beyond my ability to test, but I'll do my best. 👍

[@pimplequeen2]

I'm going to assume it is basically a V5s with 30 more cc.... maybe a little more compression.... 25hp ish. Nice looking machine.... hope they pick up where Bailey seems to have left off keeping the four stroke option alive :)

[@Adrenalinspunk]

Aww also how easily accessible are part to purchase

[@PPGBIRD]

No pressure, but really lookin forward to this upcoming vid....

[@Brazillianize]

Everybody (& myself) will ask about the weight, but I also wanna know about it's noise and vibration levels - thanx & good winds!

[@fastfreddy19641]

Cost. Where and when can you buy. Power? Cheers 🤔

[@angeredBee]

Paul. Nice video intro to this engine. I realize you have lots of experience however with Bailey. Are Bailey engines still in production? It appears from their web site that they have been dormant for years. Are they otherwise available and if so where please?

[@PARANOOB]

Yep. Their website is just an old one they don't use. You have to get in touch. They're selling engines constantly.

[@PARANOOB]

Selling to the Sub70 crowd in think..

[@LegendaryJim_YT]

Like most, What is projected price? If we have a frame, is just an engine kit going to be available? ETA of availability with COVID-19 and will it be available in USA?

[@PARANOOB]

Watch following two videos for answers. :)

[@ColGadarby]

When are we realistically looking at seeing them on sale ? I know they are in Beta testing stage now - but is there a time frame set at the moment.

[@PARANOOB]

All ten test pilots need 100hrs each, then feedback. After that.👍

[@clubsnapperuk]

Questions, we’ll see a figure soon what this parmotor costs but what about running costs. Not just fuel .Is it anything like the moster,A constant dread if anything need replacing as we know any part with aviation along side it is triple price, or are the spares and parts reasonably priced for this engine .always been interested in Light weight 4 stroke paramotors

[@roboneill5843]

Really interested in 4 stroke engines but have beeen told that they are heavy compared to 2 strokes and don't provide the same output. I'd like to know how this new engine compares to a Moster 185. Thanks for your presence on KZbin.

[@PARANOOB]

Yes, they're heavier and less powerful but I love mine and have many friends that fly them. Perfect for cross country.

[@harry-knight]

Can we have a good visual tour of the engine? Show us what and where everything is, open any covers you can without having to replace gaskets. (unless that's against the rules while it's in development)

[@PPGBIRD]

Before your first impressions can you do a 360 walk around for us to study vid. No comment necessary. Edit not necessary. Maybe up a couple close up shots. Will definitely help up with comments.

[@unabel987]

Are four strokes allowed in the Icarus race?

[@PARANOOB]

Yes. :)

[@GregAnthonyHarris]

Oh man I’m so happy for you! I wanna see a shot of you filling it up straight from a petrol pump on the forecourt with no oil measuring nonsense! My question is how fast can you fill the tank up compared to a two stroke taking in to account the time to measure two stroke oil mix?

[@PARANOOB]

No idea, never filled a two stroke, I just fill up straight from a petrol pump..

[@johnyogiburr2881]

The important issues with this motor will be:- weight, thrust, economy, torque effect, ease of maintenance, availability of spares, service intervals, cost, noise level, ease of starting, elctric start option. Good luck.

[@andrewsayer7528]

Anyone know where I can buy the Quattro 4 stroke paramotor!!!!

[@PARANOOB]

A lot would like to know that.. not heard any news from EOS for a long time... 😕

[@PPGBIRD]

All the questions below, plus: Adaptability to other frames? ie. Nitro 200? Throttle offered or options? Weight with crankcase oil added (not just dry weight). If possible 2 stroke/4 stroke noise/vibrations comparisons. And break in time/sequence.

[@markbailey6051]

Yes , what is a little bit more?

[@AndySV1K]

Well it looks pretty! Q1: Does it fly?

[@kevinmcdonald1917]

Is it fuel injected?

[@PARANOOB]

Nope.

[@paramotor.training]

Fantastic! :-)

[@Cassam268]

Gidday Noob, Will the EOS only be matched with Wasp frames, in other words, will the engines be worldwide distributed only through Wasp? Thanks.

[@PARANOOB]

Hi Tony. Watch the following two videos.. All questions were answered. :)

[@brianhepworth4854]

If this engine was a spice girl which one would it be??? I’m hoping to do my training in September, money is always tight, is this worth buying new or should I just buy your old Bailey off you??🤣

[@PARANOOB]

😆

[@jensfalck_TheSwede]

Been wondering about that one. What's the problem!? What's taking so long. It's definitely the most beautiful and best sounding engine out there.

[@paulshotan278]

proper, in flight testing under real flight conditions until it's ready to present to the public, no flaws no hiccups ..... and that takes time when done correctly.

[@PPGBIRD]

Ok, pressure for vid. BTW Flycndy jacket best purchase ever (outside ppg gear), toasty AF. Wish pants took on though. See, If they’ll try again. Ask jacket color options, friend wants it, but weird about matching. I could give an AF on that. If they campaign for flight pants again, count me in for at least three off the bat. If needed to get going I can throw some $ to start with hope of reimbursement.

[@PARANOOB]

You'll have to speak to Flykandy about that.

[@vegasburger]

Paranoob uploads a new video there for I click it’s compulsory

[@eylphant]

I want!

[@TimPriestChannel]

Then you should have....

[@roboneill5843]

Raining again! Tell me about it!

[@AdrianLeviAU]

Thrust, real world fuel usage, weight, cost

[@thomasnappo6309]

10,000 DOLLARS JUST FOR THE MOTOR...THEN YOU NEED HARNESS, WING..15,000 DOLLARS.

[@PARANOOB]

Yep, that's about the jist of it. Usually a similar price to a good motorbike.

[@tpj1959]

There's only 10 motors like this in the world. Hey everybody, let's give it to a noob and get a review. Ridiculous since you have nothing to compare it too...Looking at reviews, this should have been given to someone with the Moster engine.

[@PARANOOB]

Watch the next two videos.....

[@tpj1959]

@@PARANOOB OK, I will. You must like negative comments...ha. Not a slam on you at all. Just questioning the marketing strategy here.

[@PARANOOB]

@Tim Johnson There's no marketing strategy mate.. I'm not selling anything... This less than three minute video is me asking you what you want to know. Calm down. I asked these questions BECAUSE I'm not the guy to do a review, I'm just a guy with a youtube channel.. Yours is the ONLY negative comment. And you left three of them. Hope you find all the info you want in the following 70 minutes of Quattro videos. If you don't, just ask and I'll get the answers for you. 👍

[@tpj1959]

PARANOOB I’m calm now.