Parents Support Son Who Murdered Daughter | "Life with Murder" (Mason Jenkins) Case Analysis

[@robinmaynard1640]

His complaint that he won't have anyone to take care of him in his old age (his parents fault because they are going to die and his sister won't be there for him), made me sick to my stomach.

[@Stefanie3]

Me too!

[@lizgrey5389]

This part was awful. The son was enjoying stating this, he had a small smile. The father was obviously upset by it. They act like they felt the son was oblivious to this. I don’t feel he was oblivious. I feel he did this deliberately to remind them of his decision to kill his sister. Awful son. Just completely bereft of compassion for his parents.

[@Do.not.judge.]

Me too,

[@olilumgbalu5653]

Why would a brother expect his sister to take care of him in his old age? 😕

[@Safire2159]

Me too!!!

[@peekaloo12]

What boggles my mind is that they still supported him after he wrote their wills. Like, he was ready to kill them too. Just breaks my brain.

[@maggieattenborrow6725]

Well, he couldn't hurt tham any more than he already had,

[@eagdeppa]

@@maggieattenborrow6725 I’ll let her see her tomorrow

[@penskepc2374]

I'm mean some pretty good explanations were given in the doc. It's just not something you can understand until it's your reality I suppose.

[@christophermac6679]

It is a sad situation but family is a stronger bond for some people. My cousin attempted to murder his mother(my aunt) and father, he shot his mother. They are still close however I have never seen him since. He never come around when my family visited I’m sure my dad made those arrangements. DRUGS ARE BAD KIDS. They make you out of character and make you act in strange ways.

[@juanitarichards1074]

@@maggieattenborrow6725 Unless he killed them.....which he was planning to do.......

[@susan4114]

I watched the documentary. The sad thing all Mason cared about is “too bad his sister is dead now there will be no one to care for him when he gets old “ So chilling

[@OrangeAppled9]

Yes..that was so sickening. My blood was boiling.

[@kenmore01]

Hopefully, he won't have an "old age."

[@goodenoughgirl8102]

My same thoughts. Just watched it the other day.

[@la214la]

I saw the documentary too! I have no idea why his parents still talk to him.

[@eerrm1]

That’s when I was certain he was a psychopath. Boo how poor you. He’s only admitting his plans to kill his parents now because he knows that’s what the police think and he won’t get parole until he admits it. I wonder how the neighbours are going to enjoy him living there when he inherits his moms house. He looked so callous and pissed off having to put up with his parents in the prison cottage. The cameras picked up that chilling scene.

[@PrissyHippie]

Hearing the Dad talking about not moving and their home was heartbreaking. Mason put his father in an early grave.

[@shuheihisagi6689]

Yeah thats the hearbreaking part....nevermind the sister who was actually put in an early grave. What is with all you people pitying this sick family?

[@lostandfound5145]

@@shuheihisagi6689 compassion is healthy and important for humanity. While the sister had her future robbed of her, her suffering ended in a blink. The parents suffering lasted for a long time. Years. And that is awful. They’re all suffering, and it’s not a contest. It’s possible to feel compassion for multiple people at one time.

[@olilumgbalu5653]

I hope the dad made sure his property, money, estate etc was bestowed to someone else (not Mason OR his wife who would like leave everything to Mason).

[@valerielhw]

My thoughts are that the main issue is not about parents full of regret and in denialism. It's about saving others from the future actions of a dangerous sociopath who has no qualms about murdering anyone he "needs to" to secure his goals. *This killer should NEVER be released, period.*

[@fetus2280]

I would have dispatched the kid myself if i were the father . If it were My Mistake i would take the L without hesitation . It isnt the worlds responsibility to house the pos its the parents and imo the parents Duty . Cheers .

[@4bibimimi]

Mason still thinks he's going to inherit his father's property. If he does he has a place to go after he's released. I think it's good to make sure that never happens because he marked his parents for death and they forgave him for killing Jennifer and left it at that.

[@phillipg4304]

I can't get pass the fact that Mason was planning on hurting them too and they continued to supprt him. I could only deal with him from the perspective of him hurting others to get what he wanted. Prior to the murder a strong warning sign was him being in & out of jail for years with no boundaries in place. The parents deciding to continue to support their son throughout all of his bad behavior seemed to have normalized things. Looks like the parent's nurturing went overboard & their better judgement was turned off. Not only putting their lives in danger, but others lives in danger as well (i.e. their daughter, neighbors, etc) Mason was more impressed by prison life than the outside world. He wanted money to buy nice things but didn't want to follow legal ways of getting those things.

[@owl.feathers]

As somebody who believes in rehabilitative justice and radical changes to our system of incarceration, I actually agree with you. Mason seems like a malignant narcissist, and afaik the chances of someone like that being rehabilitated are low.

[@kathyyoung6847]

There's something in his eyes.

[@bulld0gmom760]

"Mostly because of the stabbing part." Classic Dr. Grande. I think the parents were in denial about their son way before he did that to his sister. The grief and guilt must be incredibly heavy. Thanks for another interesting case study, Dr. Grande!! 💜🤗👽

[@karenmattingly8527]

Mason must have narcissistic tendencies. Can't imagine the he'll his parents have lived since their daughters murder. Dr. Grande you remind me of my brother., delicate features and the same build.

[@astridjaye6224]

I was just about to write the quote about the stabbing part, it made me crack up at like 5 am when I was super upset and insomniac while trying to go back to sleep. Made me think of when SNL was funny 😄

[@lawrenceking4144]

And he said it with such a straight face. When you think about the line, it was not meant to be funny. It was meant to show how illogical the situation is.

[@bulld0gmom760]

@@lawrenceking4144 That's our Dr. Grande. His deadpan humor brings a good balance for me. Dr. Grande doesn't let us stay in the dark places. He keeps the tour moving and I really appreciate his style. Every once in a while Dr. Grande shares some bloopers. There are times he struggles to keep a straight face. Those are so fun to watch!

[@Stefanie3]

@@bulld0gmom760 So true and you sound like a very sweet person. Such a nice choice of words 🥰

[@queequeg5675]

I watched the documentary and was shocked at how horrifically self-centered Mason is. Absolute narcissistic tendencies. He only cares for himself, to point that he won’t even give his parents some closure. The mom seems to almost now feel animosity towards her innocent daughter instead of her son, the evil murderer. The dad didn’t have this reaction, the situation just seemed to have broken him. I just wish the parents could accept their son is a murderer and try to move on with their lives. Unfortunately, it’s now too late for the dad. Wonderful analysis as always, Dr. Grande! Looking forward to your next video, as always!

[@Fluffimuff]

Absolutely! Putting them through so much pain for all these years and not taking accountability and being truthful. And then he gives the reason that he'll lose his support system. Hey grown son how about being a support system for your parents right now and see that they need support!

[@ForwardLooking832]

Watching Mason not help his dad in and out of that chair at the end clear he didn't care whatever and just seemed to be tolerating his parents coz he had to. There was no warmth in their emotional interactions.

[@aking4766]

Perfectly stated!

[@nancymesek]

I watched it too. I was in fear for the parents when they visited him in the apartment. The looks he gave them made me think he could kill them saying he was putting them out of their misery.

[@littleblackpistol]

Mason is clearly his mother's golden boy. A piece of shit, a criminal but preferred to his innocent sister, likely because he was male and the firstborn.

[@Blank-41]

I cant even begin to imagine what it would be like to have two kids and one murders the other... Talk about heartbreak.

[@Blank-41]

@@ivantheamazing1188 Dude if my kid murdered my other kid the last thing I would be praising is "God".

[@rejbrodeur7069]

Unbelievable heartbreak. Unfortunately, it goes all the way back to Cain and Abel.

[@laylacogsville7422]

and on top of that he was planning to kill them too

[@ED80s]

I would be smoking 2 packs of cigarettes a day and praying for an early death...no joke.

[@MikeSmith-cn6ub]

Cain and able it happened in the Bible Adam and Eve's children

[@darrell3391]

Mason smirked often during that documentary, I believe he gleefully manipulates his parents, the part where he speaks to his father on his sisters birthday is quite disturbing.

[@Shadoe930]

Lord Jesus, I dated a man for 10 years that had 2 evil sons like that. I had to finally realize=they would be living with him for the rest of their lives because they are so unsociable and have no sense of anything around them but themselves. Yea baby, hows that going? don't even wanna know. Im sure he is walking the aisles of grocery stores with his now 2 grown assed men supporting them.

[@jodievukmir3187]

My favorite part was when his dad was sitting there on his birthday and Mason says something to the effect of and peace be with you when they were praying and his dad said that's a crock of s***

[@cje3247]

Mason also speaks to his parents by phone on or around the anniversary of the day he murdered his sister. That is so sick.

[@Shadoe930]

@@jodievukmir3187 oh sht-i didnt catch that!

[@lilyblossom1240]

He most certainly got off on that He gets to Re victimize them and delight in what he did. With them not standing up to him, not upholding their daughter, he’s in control.

[@marijo1951]

I watched the documentary shortly before seeing Dr Grande's analysis and was struck by Mason's overwhelming selfishness. When he was talking to his father on the phone about his sister, his only regret was that she wouldn't be around to help him in his old age. I was also concerned about those kitchen knives that Dr Grande mentioned. Mason was so obviously irritated by his parents during the birthday visit that I wondered what he might have done to them if the film crew hadn't been present.

[@murphychurch8251]

I also watched it here on youtube just last week. I couldn't believe that imprisoned murderers are allowed to use kitchen knives when having visitors and are left alone with them. What the hell?

[@kkheflin3]

@@murphychurch8251 That's what I am saying! What prison is this? What state? Is this COMMON? That is a horrific thought. Good Grief.

[@kkheflin3]

@Iris-Angela Jones You and me both! Where is this prison? What state is it in? This is terribly dangerous. How do they possibly justify this?

[@JimmiAlli]

Ontario people.

[@HarmonyInspired]

@@JimmiAlli better say Ontario CANADA or they will think you mean California. lol. I saw the pain on the father's face as well when Mason was worried about his own old age, while his father was dying. I think he knew he was dying, and just didn't have the energy to confront his son and deal with his wife's denial.

[@leahvogelsimpson]

I just watched a documentary on this family. I felt bad for Jennifer of course but man her poor father. He seemed like such a kind caring person and a good father and his son sent him to an early grave too..

[@chadgregory9037]

"His horse assisted flight from justice was not successful" this phrase makes the whole video worth it hahaha

[@rosemaryangela1825]

😂😂agreed!

[@frostbite3318]

The horse was charged with aiding and abetting

[@lenkacfk7155]

@@frostbite3318 , accessory after the fact 😉

[@annwethenorth]

Lol. That was my favorite line.

[@spit_milk]

When he said, "Mason fled on horseback," I had to make sure I heard it correctly. I've never heard of something like that. 😂

[@swrose66marchangel]

I recently struggled through watching this documentary. The smug, narcissistic and callousness of Mason made it difficult for me not to turn it off. I was equally disgusted by the attitude and actions of his mother, who seems to have an unnatural relationship with with her son. The poor father was definitely the odd man out.

[@mads597]

Same.. I had to watch it in parts. It was inhumane.

[@x77punk77x]

One of the worst examples of a son-favoritizing “mom” I’ve ever come across, along with Paris Bennett’s awful daft mother.

[@cje3247]

Something very odd about the mother.

[@littleblackpistol]

Yeah, the mother clearly favours the son and likely always did, and treated him as the golden child, hence his criminal and self-centred personality.

[@leahflower9924]

Sounds more like a psychopath I don't think most narcissists like to kill it looks bad for their ego

[@AmberPearcy]

I watched this documentary a few days ago so I’m really glad to have your thoughts on this case. I just can’t help but feel for the parents. I can’t imagine being in their position. I think you nailed it when you said he pretty much killed the whole family on the day he killed Jennifer. Heartbreaking.

[@Kalua_de_Tulear]

Same

[@OrangeAppled9]

Same here. I love that Dr. Grande is in sync, too.🥰

[@elliebellie7816]

He killed his dad, that's for sure, but I have my doubts as to whether or not the mother has even accepted her son is a murderer. She's clueless.

[@underalions2023]

If the mum had came home by hershe would have. She was next. Then dad when he came home latter on.

[@gmar7836]

Why would you feel sorry for the parents? Don’t you think their feelings toward Mason who is clearly a psychopath are misguided?? They should not be supporting him!! They should be grabbing their daughter!!

[@zinataraaa]

He literally smiled through the whole documentary!!! Extremely scary individual.. So sad to hear the dad has passed since 😢

[@maryarchangel2131]

It was the last glimpse of him that sent chills up my spine. Evil 😈 man. Remorseless reprobate. He should never be released.

[@pamcornelius9122]

Much like Burke Ramsey on the Dr. Phil show.

[@DMaria216]

@@pamcornelius9122 he’s not a convicted murderer.

[@pawa303]

@@pamcornelius9122 Burke Ramsey’s smile seems much more like one that someone with anxiety would have, rather than a genuine happy smile. I smile like Burke in social situations that are nerve wracking, it’s very different from this case.

[@kkheflin3]

@@pawa303 Burke Ramsey checks almost every box for Asperger's Syndrome (now called Social Communication Disorder which is Level One on the Autism spectrum). So many people attacked him after the Dr. Phil broadcast. He may be guilty. He may not. But I have taught special needs kids for 30 plus years and that is my assessment based on his behavior.

[@Ciara1594]

I have noticed that when a male member of the family has committed a crime, like Father, Grandfather, Uncle, Son the family ALWAYS circle the wagon around that male. Especially if any of the four males have been accused of sexual abuse/rape. On Dr Phil, he spoke to a fourteen year old girl who been sexually abused by her older brother since she was eight. She finally got the courage to tell her teacher about the abuse (the parents had their heads up their ass), and the brother was charged with rape and abuse of a child, and now is in prison. Well, the girl told Dr Phil that both parents blamed HER for their SON being in prison (!) 😳😡🤦

[@eerrm1]

Welcome to planet Earth.

[@teresasully3561]

SAD

[@sydneyfairbairn3773]

The prodigal son story from the bible has brainwashed parents into accepting their fatally flawed sons back into the family fold. Over 90% of convicted felons are male.

[@paulineconnolly4148]

❤d40h8l 11:10 11:10 ​@@teresasully3561

[@SeanMillea]

I’m surprised his escape on horseback didn’t work

[@sheckyfeinstein]

Appaloosa.

[@kenmore01]

Well, maybe a gallop instead of a hearty trot?

[@teslaandhumanity7383]

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@francesbungay4026]

Shocking!

[@rednecked7462]

Gittyup Little dawgy. 🐎

[@elizabethrandall1202]

Excellent documentary. I don’t think I’d be able to forgive my son if he killed my daughter. Mason is a true psychopath …

[@lisabradford8180]

if a parent/family member couldn't forgive and had no relationship with that person, i can't say i'd blame them. i don't think i'd be able to either.

[@fetus2280]

@@lisabradford8180 I would have dispatched that kid myself . I would happily take the L and save the world from a monster .

[@lisabradford8180]

@@fetus2280 he deserves being dispatched for what he did to both his sister and parents🤬

[@fetus2280]

@@lisabradford8180 Damn Right he does .Those Beta parents should have dispatched that pos instantly .

[@sharosmith]

Me either, he murdered her and had no remorse! The day that happened he would have been dead to me.

[@major_thomasina]

The documentary he refers to is beyond heartbreaking. I hope this guy stays in prison forever, he doesn’t show even an ounce of remorse.

[@Melinda8162]

Is it on KZbin? I never heard of this case. I watch a lot of the true crime TV programs, but haven’t seen this !

[@dillpixel8357]

@@Melinda8162 yes it is. Just type, Life with Murder.

[@EdinburghMayhem]

Correct. Stone cold sociopath.

[@christinafidance340]

@@Melinda8162 It only got uploaded recently, I believe. I thought the same thing when it popped up on my feed last week…. Why have I never heard of this case???? It was honestly difficult to even get through honestly though and I’m not usually so effected like I was with this one. This dude is just beyond heartless and his poor parents. Truly heartbreaking.

[@picosmom8698]

So bizarre and disturbing on so many levels. I feel for the parents, but pretending to be a “family unit” after your kid basically destroyed the family unit, is so delusional. Sad. It has been a slow painful death for his parents; Mason plays a disgusting game with his parents, truly a sociopath.

[@suzanne7576]

I hope his mother donates any and all money in her will and not give him a penny

[@margaretr5701]

The supportive aunt would be deserving.

[@Rompler_Rocco]

I'm sure there are multiple reasons that allowing a convicted killer access to knives is ill-advised, but I must agree, it's mainly the stabbing part.

[@annwethenorth]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@BenState]

Most kitchen knives snap when used to stab. Throat cutting is more effective.

[@jekw23]

Got to be in the top ten reasons at least.

[@LisaAnn777]

@@BenState then they are cheap knifes. Any quality steel won't break that easy.

[@BenState]

@@LisaAnn777 Wrong. Most cases of domestic stabbings will end in the knife snapping.

[@birdworldist]

Meanwhile I can't even get my family to support my choices for dinner 😪🤧

[@kkheflin3]

Priceless.

[@lifeonwheels5756]

True story lol

[@fifimsp]

His parents seem to have made excuses for him his entire life. I mean when you watch the footage of the interviews, "yes, but he's never been violent before." Well nobody is violent until they are. Also, I'd like to hear from some of his classmates. He probably has been violent, he just hadn't committed a violent crime.

[@zoe9190]

He didnt have to previously been violent to others, but he may have always been angry, entitled, big ego etc, and these may have been his precursor to being violent as an adult. We are complex and simple creatures, some of us internalise everything, and one day it just cant be contained and they explode

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

This story was difficult to listen to, it just broke my heart. That’s the worst position any parent could ever be. In the same way that Mason’s actions had no explanation, his parents reactions after the crime also had no explanation, obviously for different reasons. I think the human mind cannot process something as horrific as this. Like you said, “he killed his parents emotionally,” and when people are emotionally dead is very difficult to act in a reasonable manner. Really sad story. Thank you for the thoughtful review Dr. Grande.❤️

[@cottontails9003]

Rejane, four months too go 🌷🏥

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

@@cottontails9003 That’s really wonderful!! I can’t wait for the good news!💕🤱🏻💕

[@lysawoolley9008]

Very well put. I handled a case which the son killed his parents then set fire to their home,he was home for the weekend from college, he did this Friday night, he had been home only 2 hours, he called the police from their front lawn to tell them what he had done. All this is public knowledge. I felt for the survivor, family was destroyed in one evening. I never judge anyone since it’s very layered, complex. Humans 💔

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

@@lysawoolley9008 My goodness, cases like this are beyond comprehension. There might be one perpetrator but everyone involved was a victim.😔

[@joanszymberski2288]

I agree. I saw the documentary. Mason seems to be either psychopathic or sociopathic. There are no signs of remorse..... just calculation on his part to determine what is best for him. I agree with Dr. Grande that Mason killed the entire family, when he killed Jennifer. The parents appear to be holding on desperately to a son who is a murderer. I think this eventually killed hos father.

[@dominiquebertrand6786]

It was pretty obvious that Mason’s father was deeply depressed for the rest of his life, his physical decline was painful to see. I think the mother coped by narrowing her universe to mothering her son. Mason is the puppet master here, he manipulates them by dangling more revelations; keeping them hanging on, he’s just incredibly cruel there is no love there he’s incapable of it. I don’t understand the authorities leaving knives around this guy, the parents must have signed some kind of waiver.

[@littleblackpistol]

Mason was raised by these parents, and was a criminal early on in life. That reflects on his parents. I imagine that the mother was one of those parents who would always make excuses for her favourite child to the point he never was made to accept the consequences of his actions and was raised to believe he was the centre of everyone's world. Sorry, people who behave like Mason don't pop into being out of nowhere. He may have had naturally self-centred traits but it's clear to me his upbringing exacerabted them immensely.

[@eerrm1]

He has improved at arithmetic. He knows they will die and he can inherit everything after his release, which would more likely happen if he tells the parole board what they want to hear.

[@lilyblossom1240]

The mother is not right. I sense sociopath in her. Or at least traits. She treats Mason like her golden boy. Daughter? What daughter.

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

@@littleblackpistol That's hard to say, and hurtful to whosever left. The sister seemed to be doing fine, so... Look up the Columbine killer's mother on TED talk. See if you blame her then. Just as an example. He was 20, at that point he's a grown man making his own choices.

[@dominiquebertrand6786]

@@lilyblossom1240 She is definitely not quite normal, the daughter has been wiped out of her affective space there is only the son. She doesn't seem overly concerned with her husband's obvious decline.

[@ShellyFossil]

I actually watched the documentary yesterday, I'm still getting my head around it. What stunned me was the parents/Mason call each other on the anniversary of Jennifer's death, it's just too awful, it feels so wrong.

[@ED80s]

Also having a photo of Jennifer in his cell. I understand that's his family but murderers are not allowed to keep photos of their victims so why should he?!

[@elainearchibald9020]

Brutal!! Bizarre to know that the parents supported him as if their daughter's life didn't matter? Of course he is their son, but they could have lost their lives too. They may have wanted to believe that he couldn't have killed his sister so it must have been an accident. Why couldn't they just chalk it up to the fact that their son was very sick and have the professionals deal with him and get the truth out one way or another? Their support for him should have been very distanced. I can't imagine what they thought. Very unusual case Dr. Grande, thank you for your analysis!

[@jennw6809]

I haven't watched it, but I smell a narcissistic mother and deeply codependent father.

[@mads597]

@@jennw6809 good guesses for sure. The mom was painfully in denial, but the narc aspect helps to explain why Mason’s behaviors were never addressed before the murder, as well as her denial afterwards. The dad was just… I don’t even know. He was broken.

[@elainebines6803]

Hmmm.... I just don't know elane

[@gaiaiulia]

That point came out in the documentary. Mason seems like a cold-blooded psychopath who only sees a situation insofar as it affects him personally. The idea that he thought his sister would be around to look after him in his old age was mind boggling, to say nothing of how he treated his parents.

[@dizzyfingers7180]

Your analysis helps me understand how my parents continue to support my brother, who has committed aggravated assaults against many people, held an entire Best Western hostage on a July 4th weekend, and has threatened my life many times. I went into hiding 8 years ago. My mental health is better because of it. My brother is now 58 years old. I was forced to become estranged from my family. People don’t understand and I can’t explain it. Your explanation of wanting to be absolved of parental failure and “resurrect” their son, helps me understand. Thank you.

[@lorihunt7318]

You hit the nail on the head with all your analysis of the situation. They all "died" that day and he should never be released from prison - ever!

[@michelleriggs5435]

I also watched that documentary a few days ago on Netflix. Thank you so much for the analysis of this family. I have a son serving life without parole for the murder of someone who was my friend and fellow church member. I can understand some of what the Jenkins family has been through. I very much appreciate your commentary about them.

[@mangafq8]

@ Michelle Riggs My condolences to you and your family as well as to Chantay's family. As you know, God doesn't give us more than we handle. Stay strong and God bless you🙏

[@imaginempress3408]

People never truly comprehend until they wall in your shoes. My heart goes out to you. I know what it's like to be afraid that your child will kill one of your other children or your spouse while they sleep.

[@wendythewitch01]

What was that doc on Netflix called?

[@michelleriggs5435]

Hi, I think it's called "life With Murder, Mason Jenkins" it's been a while since I watched it and since I've had a subscription to Netflix. Hope that helps. There is also a documentary on KZbin called "Real Stories ,Who Killed Our Daughter?"

[@wendythewitch01]

@@michelleriggs5435 I watched the video today on KZbin but I hadn’t come across it on Netflix. Thanks Michelle. I appreciate you answering me. 😄

[@gracevalentine1666]

Everyone died that day, dark and deeply true. Dr. G., you have a talent for finding redemption in the most desperate acts. Humbling and comforting, thank you again.

[@nancyjones6780]

So weird that I just watched that documentary yesterday and found Mason to be manipulative, self-centered and a deep seated liar. I don't understand the parents. They were almost his victims as well and they don't seem to comprehend that fact. It's tragic. Thanks Dr.G 💜

[@suzanneflowers2230]

This tragedy started in Mason's childhood. He was never held accountable and thus allowed to develop his narcissism to a horrendous degree. His lack of empathy didn't first rear its head when he shot his sister.

[@Euterpe65]

I saw this documentary when it was first released. At the time I was really struggling to come to grips with how the rest of my family could maintain a loving, happy relationship with my oldest sibling who physically, sexually and emotionally abused me for nearly ten years growing up. Even after admitting that they believe me. In the doc, the parents mention how he’s all they have left. They also talk a lot about maintaining the family unit. So, this story really illustrates the ability of parents to turn a blind eye to the crimes of their child. It’s not that simple, there’s a victim blaming culture in many families including mine. Just wanted to share if anyone else is going through similar things. Hang in there

[@paintitblack9712]

24 min into that documentary last week and had to fast-forward to the end. His smirk and sense of entitlement is unreal. Prayers with his mom, she's had to deal with the unthinkable

[@maddieb5787]

Maybe I'm being too harsh but I think it's inexcusable the parents betrayed their daughter Jennifer by taking Mason's side. If I was his mom I would definitely change my will and make sure everything I had left was left to another family member besides mason, or a close friend or even a charity before I gave that monster what he was willing to kill for.

[@x77punk77x]

His mother obviously favored him over his sister and is 100% his enabler; it was shocking how cold his mother was & the absolute loveless way she spoke about her own daughter. Mason probably inherited some narcissistic tendencies from her. His father is the only one with real compassion and humanity; I have no clue why you are invested in the future of that awful woman.

[@ED80s]

I was thinking same thing. After knowing he was planning on killing entire family over money, I would leave all money to her husband nieces or sisters

[@hissallymyjack4684]

Exactly very well said!!

[@blindship5792]

let's talk when this happens to YOU!!!

[@wittnessbe_judged8723]

You are wrong they did not know the truth, they believed their son was innocent. They wanted to believe that he was innocent, they didn't know for a fact that Mason killed their daughter, until 12 years later. You don't know what you would do under those circumstances. They loved both their children, you don't know what you would've done, who are you to judge?

[@KristynPike]

This “man” is from my home town. I remember clearly when this happened. He is not ok. Never was. I was once at a bar with my sister. He came up and nicely asked her to dance. She told him no thank you. (She was dating her now husband). His whole face changed immediately. He through his drink on her then grabbed a cloth that the bartenders used and through it at her as well. His eyes changed, his face changed. This was a few months before this happened. He is pretty scary. I feel for his parents. He should never be free.

[@mmason9836]

My neighbor's son really resembles him. Could be his brother. He is an ex-convict. I know what you mean by the face change. He looks like a whole different person. My neighbor's son is different in that he remains calm but I can tell underneath he is seething. Scary as hell. I keep waiting on him to really lose it one day. Real narcissist. Can't be faithful to any of his wives. On his third one and was cheating on her in less than a year. I think the only reason he married her is to be his cash cow. He's "self employed".

[@AliValentine143]

I was wondering if a diagnoses was ever made or if Dr. G had insight. He was disordered to the point of being pathalogical but I'm not excusing his actions just curious.

[@tediumlive3567]

@@mmason9836 I have the same type of son next door. I had to get cameras as she likes to throw things at my home, climb my fence. It has taken me 10 years to force the police to stop it as of the last few weeks. I threatened them with going to local news. He is 18 and his parents take him to church and have been screaming at him all his life instead of teaching him a moral code or anything. He looks different all the time. If you watch true crime shows, you will see all the Psychopaths shift shape the faces and bodies.

[@jacquelinelc2843]

What a compassionate explanation of the parent’s dilemma! It was an impossible situation for them. Our love for our children does not die, even in unbelievably tragic circumstances. You’re so right, he “killed” his whole family.

[@glendasully]

Mason certainly meets the definition of "The Golden Son".

[@lollymadikiza3174]

@glenda i agree wid u, I also think sum parents love de son more than daughter. (south Africa)

[@eadweard.]

He's more like a golden shower.

[@myunknownland9272]

Yes people called my brother the golden child. Now both parents are passed he refuses to talk to me. He believes he is self entitled.

[@joanysohayda7233]

The sound of ur voice always comforts me Dr. Grande

[@MindyBeee]

RIP Jennifer 💐💓✨ Omg I watched it too!! Disturbing. I was just thinking a few mins ago how unfair it was that Mason got to attend his Father's and Grandfather's funerals. It was like his sister's life didn't matter 💔

[@maggieattenborrow6725]

I agree; but maybe he didn't want to!

[@lf9341]

Wow this was sad. I can't imagine how those poor parents went on. We cannot know judge how we would feel unless we are in the same situation.

[@michaelmccarthy5166]

It's easy to hate this guy and wish the worst for him, but I always appreciate how Dr. G is able to address the cases he covers with a calm and professional tone (and a dose of humor). That being said, man do I despise those who can think to kill to solve their own issues.

[@kkheflin3]

That is why we love him so! And why he has almost one million subscribers! I have been with him since he had thirty thousand! So proud of him! He has also built a great community here. Yes, there are trolls from time to time but most people are interested in "having an interesting dialogue" as Dr. G says.

[@carolyncook2333]

These parents should have their heads examined.

[@christoparenti4660]

Agree 💯

[@toasted_.coconut]

I remember that documentary. Bewildered by the stupidity of his parents.

[@coolcat6341]

Well they brought him up.... I mean they created a monster...

[@jadetaylor2443]

@@coolcat6341 I do think the parents spoiled and enabled bad behavior.

[@maryarchangel2131]

What I saw was a relationship with no depth. Superficial and false. Perhaps the parents created the monster by always 'turning a blind eye'???

[@PuddilyOops]

They lose both of their children if they allow themselves to see the truth. I can’t imagine the cognitive dissonance; it has to be agonizing.

[@maartent9697]

It's easy to call people stupid when they were clearly victims of manipulation as well... Also try convincing people regarding mental health in the early 2000s, 22 years later there is still a stigma on it

[@janetpirate2110]

I would have rejected Mason. I couldn't deal with one child killing another and knowing that they were next on his list.

[@ember1794]

Especially if he has no remorse whatsoever

[@setaside2]

This was a particularly eloquent breakdown, doc. My kiddos are now in their early and mid twenties. My son once asked if I would still love him if he ever committed a heinous crime like murder. He was 10 when he asked this. I told him I would always love him... But that I would mourn the loss of the boy I thought I knew who would then be traded with what could possibly be defined as a monster. If it was self defense or an accident, things would be vastly different in context... But if he murdered in cold blood, I agree a part of me would die along with the victim... And no doubt a part of him would be forever dead to me, as well. I pity the parents in this case. What an awful position to be forced into.

[@michelleriggs5435]

I have a son serving life without parole for murdering a girl who was my friend and fellow church member. Things would be vastly and forever changed but you would still love him. Hope you never find out. God bless.

[@pawa303]

@@michelleriggs5435 Ryan Riggs, right? That case is rather sad. I’m glad the victim’s parents acknowledged how much pain your family is in as well. You all seem like kind people, sorry for the terrible situation.

[@setaside2]

@@michelleriggs5435 there is no doubt that I would never stop loving my children, regardless of their deeds. They are my kiddos, either way. Though, as discussed, I would mourn deeply their decisions and the lives they would have permanently altered. Deepest respects to you and yours, Michelle. May you find solace out there.

[@michelleriggs5435]

You are correct Pranav. And thank you very much😀

[@kkheflin3]

Very eloquent. I couldn't agree more.

[@Aaron-kj8dv]

There was a thread on social media a few weeks ago where people were talking about when they were young children they murdered their sibling and they essentially went unpunished becausethey were so young. . It was so chilling I had to stop reading it.

[@didirobert3657]

OMG!

[@kkheflin3]

@Peter T And Casey Anthony. Terrifying.

[@victorgl9709]

The Casey Anthony case shook me. How can a jury be so incredibly stupid....

[@Sandra-wj4on]

I think most of the time when a child does something horrendous, the parents won't accept the truth because they don't want their children's crimes to be a reflection on them.

[@ED80s]

I think when something horrific like this happens parents feel guilt (even when they did nothing wrong). Also I believe they relive memories of when their adult kid was a sweet innocent young child and cant see the horrendous monster they became

[@Dustandfuzz]

He was twenty at the time he did the murder. I think he was coddled and had no consequences for things he did. That is my impression.

[@phoebejanemiller1671]

This case reminds me so much of the law and order episode “born psychopath.” In that episode, two loving parents are in total denial about their son’s violence and psychopathy. Detectives become involved due to the fact that the couple’s younger daughter shows up to school with severe bruises and broken ribs after he kicks her down the stairs. The episode is so heartbreaking because the parents clearly love both of their children, but they can not accept that their son is dangerous. The dad says at one point that he wants to believe that if they love their son enough, he won’t be a danger to their family. In the end, the son shoots a police officer and is forced into a psychiatric facility.

[@themcqueendream6797]

Dr. Grande could you do a video on emotional development issues in children or the psychology of growing children with academic progress issues. That doesn't seem clear but I can't think of how to phrase it. Keep up the amazing work 🥰

[@cottontails9003]

Good morning Dr Grande. What a sad situation, those parents, were in a lose-lose event,,if they didn't support their son,they were deemed, hard and callous, if they did, they were weak and gullible. In my opinion Mason , lost all his family, the day, he murdered his sister. Thank you Dr Grande. Tragic analysis and sad topic.

[@renee1961]

Hello, Dr. Grande! 🙋🌵🪴🌵🪴 I hope you're toasty warm this weekend! Hi, everyone! Keep warm! I also watched the Documentary. RIP Jennifer.💔💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏🙏 The Parents reaction is very upsetting. He is taking Full Advantage of them! They've had the Daughter Murdered, and he's been Convicted, and he's continuesly Hurting them more! Reminding them of Jennifer is Heartless!! They are Grieving for her, and their son. Thank You for your Analysis! I Appreciate You!

[@amyholman354]

I watched the documentary a few days ago and found myself longing for your commentary, your reasoning that is always calming and your humor, such as "due to the faint hope clause."

[@helenbirdart]

Thank you so much for assessing this case. I couldn't help but think of you right away while watching the documentary. Excellent presentation as always! I just received your book 'Harm Reduction' and looking forward to cracking it open this weekend.

[@melissacampbell9214]

Thank you for not playing 911 calls, police interviews and court proceedings in your videos. These are sometimes difficult to listen to and I appreciate knowing they won’t included.

[@elizabethhamm5320]

What a tragedy 🎭. I certainly feel for the parents. I’m curious, what, if anything do you think could have prevented this? I have studied prison reform and how to prevent recidivism but this guy sounds evil. That’s a drastic step to take going from car theft to murder for profit

[@powderandpaint14]

It seems like he should have had a psychological assessment which may have revealed that he has narcissistic personality disorder or psychopathy. He probably should have been identified as being dangerous much earlier and should have been kept in custody after all the crimes he had already committed.

[@cynthiataylor1833]

The son/killer should be imprisoned for life. He has a personality disorder that prevents him from showing any remorse. His mother is in danger if he is released from prison. He's probably return home with her and kill her. The father suffered for the rest of his life. So sad.

[@emeraldeyes3338]

The poor daughter Jennifer having a brother like Mason, what is it about parents who over indulge their sons bad behaviour, I guess they were taken in by him and his narcissistic manipulate behaviour and they didn't want to accept that he's a monster. Jennifer probably had to deal with her parents always bailing Mason out of situations when she was alive and just had to accept that Mason would always get away with whatever he wanted, nothing worse then having a sibling your parents don't protect you from.

[@TAGMZs63]

My heart and sympathy are with the dad. It seems like he knows exactly what Mason is, a dangerous sociopath who was going to kill his family for money. The mom seems a bit delusional, wanting this family so badly it clouds her judgement. Mason is terrifying. The cold, smug look he shoots at his mom say it all. He was jealous of his sister and her accomplishments.

[@stephaniejohnson4358]

I agree. Just like Cain killed Abel for jealousy. That's what Mason did to Jennifer.

[@billhildebrand5053]

Absolutely magnificence analysis, Dr. Grande. No amount of insight rivals the parents *lack* of insight, and shows how we need to face denial when it shows up. Thanks, Dr. No one does it like you....😅😑😅

[@cottontails9003]

Bill, you never cease too amaze, me with your insight .

[@billhildebrand5053]

@@cottontails9003 Thankyou....I’m glad to be of service...

[@henrimatisse7481]

"His horse assisted flight from justice was not successful". Dr Grande could easily be a writer of comedy scripts or skits.

[@justinstowe3746]

You are so damn on top of stories - I love it and you work!

[@farnazrostami5302]

Such a sad case.I feel so bad for the mom who has to live with agony of loosing her whole family 🙁. Sometimes being a parent is the hardest job to do on this planet. Thank you Dr. Grande for what you do and have a great Friday✨.

[@rekacolour]

Of all survivors I felt most sorry for the father. He was clearly the one of the two parents who saw reality most clearly but it seemed he chose to shut his eyes in order to appease his wife. He didn't want his wife to lose everything even if it meant living in serious denial. Another reason for my feelings was the way Mason looked at his father. It made my skin crawl. If I caught someone look at me with so much malice and contempt I would run as fast as I could in the opposite direction.

[@lnc-to4ku]

Your final thoughts at the end were so deeply moving, Dr. Grande! ♡ And I just can't believe you mentioned one of the grearest storytellers of all time (in my opinion) - Stephen King. I was a latecomer to his works, but his books have been a gift to my life.... his character development makes most of his characters stay with you for a lifetime, for both good and bad. And his masterful plot building abilities.... I so loved learning that you- another one of my favorite great minds, read Pet Sematary, and perhaps many of his other books. ♡♡

[@Soffity]

Mason came across as a smarmy blob of emotionless nothing. His dad looked so sick and sad and his mother was doing her best in a terrible situation. The aunt summed it up beautifully at the end when she said no one had any right to judge the parents as they were doing their best in an impossible situation. I’m so glad to hear he is still in prison, that’s where he needs to stay.

[@peggyhakanson3139]

Having seen the sibling rivalry between my son and daughter, I felt so awful for the parents of this young man. My son got into a few scrapes as a young boy, but I took action immediately by making him face the consequences of his actions and insisting that he go through therapy, along with the rest of us in the family...he didn't do these things in a vacuum. Today, he is a productive, hard-working father of a son, but has made bad choices in his relationships with women. He is owning up to this and just working on being the best parent he can be. My daughter was born with severe disability, needing much attention from me that made her brother jealous. Over the years, there were times when I didn't think they would ever get along, but now they live near each other and are close. They help each other to navigate life's problems and celebrate precious moments. Your analysis of the young man and his parents was spot-on in my opinion. I cannot judge anyone here, but it looks like too little was done too late when this young man first started to get in trouble.

[@kristipatterson9952]

Thanks, Dr. Grande. Happy Friday! I hope you and everyone else has a lovely weekend!!! 💙💙💙💙

[@realitycheck4842]

He wrote the will for his parents entire estate to go to him. No mention of Jennifer. He knew when he wrote it that she would already be dead and out of the picture. The only reason his parents aren’t dead is because they foiled his plans by coming home together. He thought his mom would come home first and then his dad. He dragged his sister’s dead body to the basement to hide her from others. He’s a monster that got away with pre-meditated murder. His parents are lucky to be alive, but not because of him.

[@pageribe2399]

Reminds me a little of the Amy Bishop murders in Huntsville, AL, 12 years ago. She had killed her brother years & years before; her mother covered for her & she wasn't even charged. Years later she murdered 3 of her colleagues at UAH. Not ever a good idea to let your kids get away with murder! There's no telling who he'll kill when he gets out....... and he will.

[@WildflowerAnn]

I was glad to see you covered thus one! Most definitely in denial and your point that he killed the whole family that day is spot on. I guess no one knows what they would do in that situation. However, once I found out what his plot really was, there would be no way I could trust him, look him in the eye especially with love or be around him. I would only be fearful of those knives on the wall. I’ve been an ICU nurse for almost 20 years and have taken care of my share of mental health patients, including those from jail and prison. One was a convicted murderer. The last frame of Mason in the documentary looking at the camera gave me the chills. I have very good intuition and I know evil when I see it. It’s written all over his face, especially in those eyes.

[@janmclain6301]

As a mother of 3 sons and 1 daughter I cannot imagine the pain the parents must have felt when they finally realized he did indeed kill his sister. On purpose. I do not believe we will ever really know why any murderer does what they do. I do not believe any baby is born "evil". I am so glad all my grown kids still love each other dearly, Sure, they have their differences from time to time. But it comforts me to know they will still have each other when I am gone.

[@purelyprimecrime]

I found this case to be legitimately disturbing. Mason was so callous and manipulative. I teared up when the father told the officer he wanted to clean his own house. It was his way of having some semblance of control over what was happening. This whole story was just heartbreaking.

[@cathyblock6197]

Heartbreaking situation that's tragic for all involved. Desperate love for a son that has no love to give back in return.

[@TheScratchingKiwi]

Parents frequently are the last to realise just what kind of child they have. Their belief in 'unconditional parental love' effectively blinds them and that places them at risk. As 'outsiders', step-parents get a better view, but often, they get told: "You don't understand my child". The number of parents who support their child in court when their child is accused of a crime is mind-blowing. They are victims of a different kind.

[@javelin60]

Thanks for mentioning this case Doc. Never heard of it before. Going to look for the documentary now.

[@ylocoslovakia]

Sad to hear his dad died cos he was the only one truly affected by his daughter's death. I hope he never leaves prison.

[@Gr8Gasping]

Dr Grande, your inter-mingling of gruesome facts and wit continues to amuse and inform. I had not heard of this crime before your video and I am still shocked at Mason's 'homicide as a cure for suffering' plea. How could he have thought this would work?

[@ladymopar2024]

Had to stop everything I was doing he had a new upload thank you thank you I've never heard of this case, quite interesting

[@jenanne31]

I'm so impressed with how compassionate you are in your analyses, Dr. Grande. Thank you for your hard work.

[@gaylesharp9652]

I am shocked he was allowed time away from prison to spend time in an apartment with his parents where he had access to knives. Very strange prison rules.

[@shojinryori]

The apartment was in the prison grounds, and prison staff checked in on them regularly. But yeah, the knives… 🤷‍♀️

[@mmason9836]

What about his cell? No bars and no roomies. Looked like a college dorm room. Canada's prison system is really different from America's.

[@kayzbluegenes]

I've always said that nothing could make me reject my children and I would love them unconditionally. This was severely tested throughout my daughter's years of addiction to crack cocaine; but I am not sorry that I supported her despite her lying/stealing/abusive behavior. She has 4 1/2 years clean and sober now and is doing well. If my son murdered his sister (or, worse, one of my grandchildren or great grandchildren) I'm not sure how easy it would be to forgive him; and I don't think I could visit him and look him directly in the eye if I knew that he had planned to murder me!

[@stephaniejohnson4358]

After all the info they had. You'd have to chain me inside the house before I could stay in a house with the man who killed my child, and to kill me and his dad.

[@simpleshoes]

As someone who lives in Chatham-Kent, I’m happy to see Dr Grande covering this. I believe they were always a disfunctional family. The whole thing was bizarre.

[@cje3247]

I agreed, very dysfunctional. .

[@ciaranglobel784]

Hey Dr. G. Following on from your Port Arthur Massacre video, have you ever looked into the Dunblane massacre? I was a few years older than the poor wee bairds that were murdered and I was in school the same day as the incident about 30mins away from Dunblane. Much like Port Arthur, it had serious implication for gun ownership in Scotland. It was Scotland's first & hopefully last school shooting. The monster who did it had p**dophilic tendancies. Still casts a dark shadow over the country.

[@wandacole5784]

Just love how grande calls out bullshit and lies easley.

[@rhobbs9417]

I’ve always understood why the parents stuck by him, they’ve already lost a kid so they’ll hold on to the remaining kid and live in denial. But I’ve never understood how they could sit there with him and laugh and smirk together about how they don’t know why he did it, like it was some funny family story that they whack out every holiday. It’s honestly sick how they all act like it was nothing, when her poor father found out he at least was a mess, hearing him speak about it was really gut wrenching, him kicking off at police and saying “don’t you dare, that’s my daughter, I’ll do it” when asked if they wanted crime scene clean up to attend their home before the family returned. It really broke him, his baby girl. The mother however… monster that’s just in denial and forcing her husband to go along with it so he doesn’t upset her

[@janninecallaghan2237]

I think that the father, as lovely as he was, was obsessed with the idea of maintaining the "family unit" (what was left of it) at any cost. On the trip to see his son on Mason's birthday, the dad said he was "excited". It is beyond torture, for any parent to endure such a situation, and none of us can know how we would act. However, knowing that their son had brutally shot and then dragged his sister's body down those stairs as her blood ran from her body , seems to me to be an image that excludes him from an ounce of compassion. Grieve him. Lament him. But do not celebrate him as though he is in any way "redeemable".

[@dmudford]

I was actually in the jury pool for this case. Thankfully the trial was delayed due to some issues, I think with changing lawyers or something. I don't think I would have been selected though, knowing the aunt that he actually took the horse from. Sad situation.

[@Ken15643]

What an emotional roller coaster. I cannot imagine the grief and emotions the parents were condemned to. Tragic.

[@SeanMillea]

You are very profound Dr… You have a poetic view of the world

[@lesleykeir5017]

Spot on. Heartbreaking.

[@teresasavard2984]

Just watched this and there were a few times when Mason's mask slipped and his shark eyes told me everything I need to know. I love that the director used a shot of those cold eyes looking away from his parents as the last still shot of the film. Also, entirely as an aside, if I ever go to prison, I want it to be in Canada......houseplants, cheery colors, quiet, and homey little apartment visits with the fam. Unbelievable.

[@Allison_Wonderland.]

Another absolute gem, Dr. Grande. I have been fascinated by this case for years, ever since I saw the documentary. The poor father wasted away before out eyes, not only physically, but, you could tell, mentally. What an awful tragedy based on greed and lack of a conscience on Mason's side. And the parents must live with the knowledge that they, too, were supposed to be the next victims -- and still they embraced their son because he was all they had left. Loved your joke about the knives, Great job!

[@momof1576]

Mason Jenkins was convicted to life with no possibility of parole for 25 years. He’s been allowed to attend his father’s funeral as well as his grandfather’s funeral with armed guards escorting them. I’m surprised about the knives because when I bring papers to my clients in the detention centres the guards check them because they can’t have any staples or paper clips because they can be used as weapons by prisoners. Prisoners aren’t allowed to have shoe laces in there either.

[@mariusmeergans7416]

Dear Dr Grande your insights are professional and concise . You do your discipline proud .Thank you.

[@griffin2263]

I watched the documentary and felt heart ache for the poor father the mother seams to have blinders on when it comes to all things Mason (and most likely always has) ..by down playing his criminal behavior as a youth .. and not seeing Mason for what he is a murderer ... Mason is a spoiled ,self centered ..self absorbed ..narcissist..he has no feeling for any one but for himself ...what a truly horrible person ... had a hard time watching Mason joking around with his parents and smiling like he doesnt have a care in the world ...

[@harveykelber2789]

Hi Dr Grande. I support you on Patreon. I would like you to do more of your wonderful analysis on mental health issues. As a clinical practitioner I have found them very useful. Your more recent work is more sensationalist about public cases. Thank you

[@kkheflin3]

There are stages of grief as we know. These people got stuck in denial and have been there for many years. I certainly hope they have gotten some therapy to guide them through this but for whatever reason I find that doubtful. I have to feel for these parents. How would anyone feel if one of their offspring killed another one? I think we would all like to think we would turn against the "villian" child and I think I would do it in a heartbeat if one of my three children did this to a sibling. That would seal it for me. But you are correct Dr. G. they were put in an "impossible position." So very tragic.

[@Melinda8162]

@@cht2162 Is it on KZbin? I haven’t ever heard of this case.

[@sandracraig]

@@Melinda8162 Yes

[@Melinda8162]

@@sandracraig Thank you! I’ll look for it.

[@jph2455]

You should do a video on Keith Randulich. I went to high school with him and sat right in front of him in high school English. He was very quite and very socially awkward. He ended up killing his 4 year old sister by stabbing her to death with a steak knife. There were massive stab wounds to her neck.. some reports say her head was nearly severed. It was really gruesome and was a pretty big shock to our small town (Mokena, IL). He was 18 at the time and was charged as an adult.. only got 40 years for it. He will be 58 years old when he walks free. I think a crime that heinous deserved a life sentence.

[@tallblonde1976]

Randulich also had a ludicrous story to justify the horrible murder of his sister. He claimed she was being abused so he killed her to stop the abuse. There was no evidence of any abuse.

[@songwithoutword]

This reminds me of Paris Bennett - the boy who killed his 4-year-old sister when he was 13. Both his mother and grandmother (who may or may not have murdered one of her husbands) continue to support him even though he confessed to murdering his sister to punish his mother. I would love to hear Dr. G analyze this case because it's always fascinated and horrified me.

[@The3Storms]

I forgot about that one! I was thinking of Zach Witman.

[@chrism6500]

Dr. Grande, started watching your videos early on when I was just learning about narcissism and the fact that I had been married to a malignant covert narcissist. It’s been great watching your channel develop into what it is today. I had a video idea that I don’t believe you’ve covered. I have been a long time watcher of the “Today” show and l would like to see your breakdown of Matt Lauer.

[@mckav2358]

I'm left cold, stunned & stupefied at the callousness of these killers that we're given insight to by Dr. Grandes analysis. I know its not the answer but i would have no hesitation whatsoever in committing the perpetrator to eternity...instantly