Part 17 - Timing Chain Replacement on a Peugeot 207 208 EP6 THP150 THP175 Citroen Mini Cooper

[@CoatsandGaiters]

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[@freddybleifuss4137]

Wie immer sehr gut erklärt , danke dafür .😄

[@CoatsandGaiters]

Thank you. I hope I got it all correct. Not done one of these before.

[@simonshurety3870]

@@CoatsandGaiters Although I've never done one myself based on the countless timing videos I've watched yours was certainly close enough to give a great overview of the process.

[@CoatsandGaiters]

Thank you that's the idea behind it really. @@simonshurety3870

[@SaneleMkwane]

Very Powerful Series, watched the whole 51 Clips. Even thou my Engine is Citroen DS5 THP200 Similar to refer 99%. Keep the Good Work😍

[@CoatsandGaiters]

Thank you for that. Hope it helped.

[@mk1cortinatony395]

Brilliant again Mark thank you for the detail on this.👍👍

[@CoatsandGaiters]

Thank you

[@Neovinier]

This ist the best video i found for this Engine. Thank you verry much for explaining it so good. Das ist das beste Video das ich für diesen Motor gefunden habe. Vielen Dank das du Es so gut erklärt hast.

[@CoatsandGaiters]

Thank you

[@razansalahmageed960]

Well done nice job , very helpful and useful information.

[@CoatsandGaiters]

Thank you

[@headskul]

Brilliant video.

[@CoatsandGaiters]

Thank you

[@neilhampson2843]

Hello Mark. I would hate to know how much that timing tool was. A great video, I was looking forward to you tightening the crank bolt, Its mental. Sorry to read the timeline at the end of the video, I am going through a similar thing with my better half.

[@CoatsandGaiters]

They are about £300. I forgot to add the links. If you need to talk to someone feel free to talk to me. It's been such an emotional rollercoaster Neil. Sadly this video is probably going to be my last for quite some time now as Debbie was the main bread winner and things are likely to change. Message direct via [e-mail] if you need to talk.

[@simonshurety3870]

@@CoatsandGaiters @neilhampson2843 All the best to your respective wives and do look after yourselves too. My sister in law has been through the wringer with stage IV skin cancer so I have some inkling of what it's like.

[@CoatsandGaiters]

Sorry to hear that @@simonshurety3870 Stage 4 is sadly a very serious point. My wifes was 3 just turning 4 so shes has been through total hell bless her. For me the hardest part is she spent 7 years study to become a Bio Medical Scientist and finally gets her dream job and then 'bang' she gets the news. I just wish she could have had a few trouble free years in her career that meant so much to her. Life can be very cruel sometimes. They say 1 in 2 will get cancer so in a way Debbie has helped prepare me for what the road may be like ahead. Very very scary, these ladies are very brave.

[@sulaimanmohamed9445]

the best

[@CoatsandGaiters]

Thank you

[@bartskw2981]

I can't find anywhere those piston height rods, can you drop a link for them please?

[@CoatsandGaiters]

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[@lilonglang]

What a insane quality - filming and your voice. Do you think its possible to replace the chain without remove the engine of the car as you did? Its a P 308sw 2008

[@CoatsandGaiters]

Thank you. Yes you don't normally remove the engine to change the timing chain. It's easier out but it was only out for the video making.

[@lilonglang]

@@CoatsandGaiters ok cool just a german guy said you need a lifting platform. But I also didnt think so. I will try soon. 90.000 km right now. But only short drives daily about 7km one way. A donation is safe if its works with your video. I think you thought of everything. Absolut insane video quality.

[@lilonglang]

@@CoatsandGaiters There are chain locking kits about 50€/£ for EP6. Do think they are enough? They look a bit different - less parts.

[@CoatsandGaiters]

@@lilonglang I think there are many variants of this engine so just make sure you know exactly the engine model and ensure the kit lists it.

[@CoatsandGaiters]

@@lilonglang I've never know an engine needing to be removed unless it was the BMW with the timing chain against the rear bulkhead. It's normally bloody awkward though as space is limited but hopefully my video with give you the head up so you know whats going on.

[@Stuartcutting]

Really helpful video thanks. I am just in the process of changing the timing chain on our 207 and we do not have the flywheel locking tool at the moment. Is it safe to do the method you mentioned of putting it in 5th and putting the brake down or is it better to wait and order the locking tool?

[@CoatsandGaiters]

@@Stuartcutting putting it in gear works ok. A few manufacturers suggest this method as sometimes the only way to lock it is via the starter motor aperture.

[@Stuartcutting]

@@CoatsandGaiters that’s great thank you. I was hoping to avoid taking things off to get to the flywheel so I will give it a go.

[@MuamarbleEkei]

If i don't have the camshaft locking tools, how can I time the engine

[@CoatsandGaiters]

I wouldn't like to say

[@vaiosdiminikos4628]

can i remove the camshafts with cam sprockets on from the hpfp and vacuum pump side. so i don't have to unbolt sprockets from cams and torque them again?

[@CoatsandGaiters]

Sorry I only know what I did in the videos which is shown.

[@razansalahmageed960]

Please advise me My N14 engine timing chain snapped and we cranked several times before we realised that the timing chain was snapped. Do you think this will affect the valves or not ? And how to be sure about that without moving the engine head gasket?😢 Kind regards

[@CoatsandGaiters]

I think its an interference engine so valves may be bent. Try removing spark plugs and looking inside.

[@Jericson41]

Hi these videos have been fantastic but we are having a recurring problem with ours basically no matter how we time it up it always runs rich then occasionally throws up the correlation fault, on the reader it says the inlet dephaser is not programmed and the dephaser solenoid is showing an invalid value, could it be that the dephaser pulley needs unlocking afterwards and if so how could this be done. many thanks

[@CoatsandGaiters]

These engines are very funny about everything being exactly spot on. How many miles has the engine done?

[@Jericson41]

It’s done less than 60k, we changed the timing chain because of a correlation fault and we timed it exactly how the instructions said to time it, then we retimed it easily 30-40 times and using a digital angle tool we set it exactly 90degrees and even tried 1degree each way and still had the same result, we changed the cam position sensor, dephaser solenoid, we also changed the head gasket and piston rings (that was more to stop it burning oil) we also tried the original dephaser pulley, the only thing we didn’t do is measure the wear on the original chain as we assumed it was no good, I believe there is a problem that is preventing it from dephasing as the fault only comes on when it’s revved quite hard, we’re just completely stumped now

[@AutoRevisieOutOftheBOX]

Thanks iam building now the 1.6 THP 156HP 2011

[@CoatsandGaiters]

Hope the series helps you.

[@AutoRevisieOutOftheBOX]

@@CoatsandGaiters yea it helps me verry much thanks its gold for me

[@AutoRevisieOutOftheBOX]

@@CoatsandGaiters i have unlocked 30 video s of this project today, i think the most parts are know for you, i upgrades almost every part, iam bussy with a system, when your brake booste pump faills, a valve turn on and you have vacuum from a Y valve, give vacuum from the old system

[@nelly8423]

Why does the replacement tensioner have to gave the infentation? Ive replaced my chain and dephaser pulley but my kit had a smooth head and i keep getting camshaft correlation faults even though the cans are within the allowed range.

[@CoatsandGaiters]

I think the updated modernised ones had the indentation.

[@paulchilvers5032]

Tensioner with indentation on head is stronger, upgraded version to avoid loss ofchain tension

[@paulchilvers5032]

New crank seal recommended?

[@phillipmalkin1169]

So that engine is easily fixable so it’s got some bent valves no big deal if they snapped off and punched holes in the pistons then that’s a different matter altogether. So those two cam bolts you could have tightened up to the 180 % they won’t shear off as you state as they’re just tighten and stretch more not that you wouldn't fit new stretch bolts. Just another crappy engine design no key ways when that has worked for so many years from the first engine builds. We had real engineers that worked out that simple but fool proof fact key way locks pulleys and gear wheels. To many engines been destroyed by bolts that have come loose and no key ways to save them

[@CoatsandGaiters]

Thank you for that great information. Sadly I am no engine rebuilder.