Passionate meat eater calls me out during live debate.

[@ed.winters]

I'd love to know in the comments how you think this one went, do let me know down below! If you find value in my work you can support it here (thank you!): earthlinged.org/support & patreon.com/earthlinged Grab a copy of my new book How to Argue With a Meat Eater (And Win Every Time) here: howtoarguewithameateater.com

[@v.a.n.e.]

don't you think that the animator exaggerated the size of your neck?

[@rubyflowersx]

💚🌱💚

[@Jonny-Har]

Well said! I imagine it’s very difficult to get across your point in such limited time, especially when you’re getting interrupted and sidetracked down other avenues.

[@Anniepopolova]

Thank you. Excellent batting away of the pleasure suggestion and splendid cartoon! 💚

[@matmul4850]

​@@v.a.n.e. 😂😂

[@rikolai22]

She felt "quite miserable" to have to pass up a KFC. The humanity

[@shockwave8238]

literally

[@hugomarquez3189]

@@rikolai22 as if KFC was some universally recognized highly delectable food nobody could live without…I know Ed was fond of it, that’s why she mentioned it, she studied him, but sweetie, KFC ain’t doing it for me, it never has, you can keep all that grease

[@bestbehave]

Christ even when I was a meat head I wouldn't step inside a KFC 😂

[@JesseGinsburg]

Dont they have vegan options in the UK? Lol

[@largefam3109]

KFC chicken used to be some of my favourite food in the world before I went vegan, and any occasion I'd have it would genuinely make my day. Yes, I do occasionally walk by KFCs, yes I do smell that smell I used to love so much, and it is appetising. But that's the end of it. This isn't some torturous situation I'm put in, and any amount of displeasure I get from walking on (the horror) is immediately counteracted by the knowledge of the cruelty that this sort of food requires. I imagine for that sort of craving to make you quite miserable would involve making a much bigger deal out of it than it actually is to you.

[@yourizissos9721]

It's interesting how the woman objects to you using the term "gas chambers" but refuses to answer when Ed asks which term she would prefer him to use instead

[@rishabhraj2332]

Felt so good to hear her stumble in response to that question and awkwardly try to pivot after thinking she had a "gotcha!" question

[@WolfLamborghini]

He asked her multiple times, but she wouldn't answer. I was praying for Ed to ask her again, but I'm sure she would've dodged again...

[@discursion]

"Please don't tell me what they actually are, and don't make me say it because then I'd have to reconcile with my cognitive dissonance."

[@irish_deconstruction]

​@@WolfLamborghiniYeah she just answered with "wElL i WoUlDn'T cOnDoNe FaCtOrY fArM pRaCtIcEs", which is a non-answer to Ed's question.

[@DaveMullenJnr]

She had carefully crafted the rebuttal, she really made a point to say it exactly as she had rehearsed it. But then wasn't at all prepared for the response.

[@jazzynotjeff]

"Don't call them gas chambers. You're being too emotive." "What would you like me to call chambers full of gas that kill sentient beings?" "We have to eat meat for warm fuzzy feelings. Stop harshing my mellow."

[@SPihlaja]

I really enjoyed that point, because he basically said, 'I'll use whatever terminology you want' and she couldn't think of something else.

[@tobynsaunders]

She wasn't arguing with intellectual honesty. She was playing a different game, from the sound of it.

[@SPihlaja]

@@tobynsaunders I mean, her point is right (in that the language culturally evokes the holocaust), but it's kind of beside the point and I think Ed was willing to give her that, if she could sort out the line of the argument. But I felt like it really got lost at that point, that they didn't resolve any of the points. It didn't feel as successful as the first one, which also lost the plot too, to a point (should we eat/not eat animals is the whole point; what our larger moral position is, is an interesting, but not particularly important question when it comes to veganism, which is just not doing something).

[@mato4334]

people are pathetic.

[@mato4334]

​@@SPihlaja it evokes the holocaust because its just as terrible, if not more. you know, at least the nazis where trying to erase the jews, meat eaters want to keep animals in an eternal cycle of torture, pain and death.

[@Lucy-uv4hv]

"I don't like that you're calling gas chambers 'gas chambers'. You're obviously trying to make me think of gas chambers, when really, what we're talking about is gas chambers. Totally different." Insanely ridiculous. Well done for not letting that last interviewer get away with that comment.

[@frankmedrisch7451]

Hahahahaha

[@GodfreeLouis]

😂

[@asdfasdfadfasdf2979]

Well said

[@veganconservative1109]

And she never did give an answer to HIS question on what he preferred they be called. Rooms of warm fuzzy feelings?

[@Elcore]

Can you call them "Bye-bye air snuggle-boxes" so I can continue to avoid confronting the nightmare of my existence, please? And I'm also asking questions.

[@SweetPotatoTyler]

I hate when people bring up like 10 arguments in one run on sentence, and you try to respond to one of them, and they interrupt you, like it's so disingenuous.

[@lastdreamofhome]

@@SweetPotatoTyler Gish gallop, always a classic when you have no solid basis for an argument.

[@bryceandrewmusicofficial]

It's called a gish gallop

[@mattpastro3247]

…and tell you off for interrupting them…and failing to answer your questions.

[@graxthal]

Yeah, that's a side effect of cognitive dissonance

[@joeykeefe]

Oh my god, I knowww! It’s infuriating to listen to.

[@philhunt168]

"I'm not defending factory farming" while trying to justify gassing sentient animals.

[@Johny40Se7en]

She was trying to reduce the impact of the atrocity and didn't even realise she was doing it. That's a justification pretty much every corpse muncher, dairy guzzler and egg chomper tried to do, whether that's internally or externally. It's absolutely pathetic.

[@manuelsapam]

Yet she stopped being a vegetarian because KYC whatever

[@ayyylma0]

I wonder if KFC uses factory farmed chickens.....

[@jumano]

​@@ayyylma0you're not serious are you

[@ayyylma0]

@@jumano No. It’s hilarious to say “I’m not defending factory farming” basically in the same breath as “I was really sad when I couldn’t have KFC”

[@cynicalidealist11]

“I don’t like when you use the term gas chambers because while it may be entirely accurate it makes me look bad”

[@rondarkman.]

Don't care what term it's food

[@pedrogarutti]

LOL

[@cynicalidealist11]

@@rondarkman. True, pigs are considered food much like how black people were considered slaves in America. I’ll be on the right side of history, and you won’t.

[@BlueNorth313]

You summed it up pretty well.

[@nortonbridge3824]

Hope they listen to this back and realise how ridiculous they sound.

[@jules7712]

Ed’s patience is inspiring.

[@riseandbeings]

"I am asking you a very specific question" Brilliant as always.

[@keeganitreal]

Videos like this are why Joe Rogan doesn’t have the guts to have Ed on his show. He would never allow such logic on his illogical show.

[@velvet_bass]

Bingo. He wouldn’t dare do anything that goes against the ideological capture of his viewership and businesses.

[@dianevalentine7612]

Has he turned him down? All sorts of people go on his show.

[@velvet_bass]

@@dianevalentine7612 never anyone who he doesn’t agree with or have some sort of affiliation with, or is interested in. He has had some minor disagreements with Candice Owens and Crowder in the past, and had James Wilks on once to defend BS claims about veganism from another guest but even he still overlaps a lot more with Joe than Ed. Ed stands against Joe’s entire identity. He would never.

[@jayeshpatel9854]

Yeah JR has nothing to gain by having Ed on his show. He may or may not know about Ed. If he does he knows he would have no defence.

[@dj.h7424]

I fondly remember James Wilks on there. Not sure if that's still available to watch..

[@Seltkirk-ABC]

Another meat eater logically educated on live radio / television. The vegan example is Ed Winters.

[@tom4412]

He’s called Edward Gaunt, it’s a bit like me calling you bob or something

[@juliewake4585]

@@tom4412oh for gods sake. Is that all you have to offer?

[@RoidRage-yc7yg]

What are you talking about? Ed had no logical argument against eating meat so he had to bring up dog fighting and beastiality.

[@elisetrumbull4873]

@@RoidRage-yc7yghow is bringing up a scenario in which people don’t justify cruelty against animals and comparing it to a scenario in which people do justify cruelty against animals “not having a logical argument”?

[@RoidRage-yc7yg]

@@elisetrumbull4873 Because it has nothing to do with eating meat.

[@kattihatt]

Damn shes annoying. Let your guest finish their sentences.

[@shockwave8238]

Yeah, and the way she made a point and completely ignored a question about that point lol

[@JohnDoe-s3v2v]

And then afterwards when he tried to make a point she said "Wait - I'm asking questions as well", as if she had answered multiple questions, whereas in fact he had only asked one question and she had blatantly and repeatedly failed to answer it. Unbelievable.

[@scslre]

her "winning" the debate here _depends_ on her ability to keep him from actually having time to speak. it's a verbal drive-by.

[@sjammie2004]

Yes, so annoying!

[@jujutrini8412]

He interrupted her as well.

[@samuelmolinari]

That last interviewer... The implications of her position are insane.

[@FreeRadicalX]

They were all thoroughly absurd. And what is this trope I always see in British media of hosts mocking their interviewees from plainly untenable and emotional positions? Have British radio and TV hosts never encountered the concept of steel-manning? Or just... Having functional respect for a peer?

[@miamitten1123]

So the other guys using the fox or BBC man using a stake as an argument were better? 😂

[@saa6673]

It's always interesting that in these debates is always 1) Hosted by someone who is not impartial and often flaunts how much they like eating flesh. This often always extends to the audience if there is one. 2) Vegans never have the majority of the seats in the conversation. There can be 1/1 vegan to carnie, but the vegans must Never outnumber them during a debate. And if you include the host, it's already outnumbered. 3) The vegan must have an amazing answer for every single question thrown at them, but those answers can and often are ignored and brushed aside. 4) The carnie is allowed to Not have answers to responding questions from the vegan, can deflect responsibility, and can just ignore points made and move on to the next talking point without ever addressing what was said or corrected. 5) Despite everything listed, the carnie is not obligated to change their view. But STATING that they have not changed their view, is used to discredit the reasoning from the vegan. "All good points, but I still like my meat." and in some cases with a live audience, will get applause.

[@Deathhead68]

Yes they are profoundly weak willed, selfish and spineless people and deep down they know it

[@じゃみっと]

Agreed 100%!!! We see it over and over

[@NaturalizationAct1790]

You nailed it, great comment!

[@adamsavage3368]

So true, especially point 3. It does seem that if every individual vegan doesn't have a full explanation of every possible way in which a vegan world will work, then we must default to the current system.

[@Mikeyd251]

Great comment!

[@DebugYourBrain]

"You tell me what phrase you would use to describe chambers, that are filled with gas, that are used specifically to kill sentient beings?" Ed's ability to maintain a calm respectful demeanor is legendary and something I've tried to emulate in my own outreach content.

[@Flyingjaffacake]

He's just a wonderful communicator

[@v.a.n.e.]

leecher.

[@wickyx9088]

The lady couldn't answer the question😂

[@v.a.n.e.]

@@wickyx9088 yup, the lady couldn't answer the loaded question.

[@vamsiramineedi6296]

Yup, she couldn't escape the truth

[@Araielle]

How you keep your patience with people who speak over you to try to keep you from making them sound stupid is incredible. Very well spoken. Great animation and well done in the interviews.

[@discursion]

Because ultimately that gives him the upper hand in the audience's view. Unlike his opponents, he's not here for the satisfaction of his own selfish ego. He's fighting for the voiceless and vulnerable, and that is a great strength. Despite his patience, you can sense when he gets slightly annoyed by bits of extreme ignorance or hypocrisy people often show in full display.

[@veganistan1]

People really do think debunking veganism is so easy until they try to debunk it !! You cannot defend the undefensable at all !! Well done Ed you smashed it xx

[@everbard3071]

@@veganistan1the sad part is that after all their arguments are stripped away, they’ll just say “I like meat and I’m going to keep eating it regardless”.

[@teagoldleaf4137]

Agreed, but they make themselves sound stupid, no help required. 😂

[@JetsDuck]

This is the impossible challenge vegan activists face--the things we do to animals are so grisly, so extreme, so beyond the pale, that an activist can't simply describe them plainly without being accused of emotional manipulation.

[@savetheanimalsfree]

Its so sad

[@jamesnicholson1748]

I think the impossible challenge is that you're trying to convince someone to adopt a set of subjective moral standards. If a person views animals as deserving the same moral consideration of crops, then terms like "gas chamber" or "torture" lose their significance.

[@teagoldleaf4137]

​@@jamesnicholson1748 Needlessly Inflicting suffering and taking life of others is not subjective. You can play word salad till next Tuesday but you cannot bend reality.

[@JohnDoe-s3v2v]

She said "Wait - I'm asking questions as well", as if she had answered his questions. In reality, he had only asked one question, and she never answered it. Yet on she went, like the Titanic unaware it had hit an iceberg. Being in a social majority gives people a staggering level of over-confidence.

[@Insight-music]

Yes I immediately sensed an ego problem seeping through her hypocrisy and convenient ignorance

[@JohnDoe-s3v2v]

@@Insight-music Definitely.

[@HrjneEhehhe]

Spot on

[@teagoldleaf4137]

Well said 👏

[@Charlie08079]

Ed is the best vegan influencer / activist out there. No anger, no hatred, just pure facts.

[@user-gu9yq5sj7c]

There are other vegans who are calm with facts. BitesizeVegan, Plant Based News, Humane Hancock, Conserving Compassion, Vegan47, Mel & Steve, Lawrence Anton (on David Ramms), Patrik Baboumian, and James Aspey. Joey Carbstrong some of his debates. Lifting Vegan Logic, but he says some jokes sometimes.

[@Charlie08079]

@@user-gu9yq5sj7c I just think Ed comes across as extremely educated and less driven by emotions which unfortunately people don’t take seriously.

[@drewpeacock9087]

@@user-gu9yq5sj7c Vegangains gloating when people who eat meat get cancer is a classic

[@keifer7813]

​@@drewpeacock9087 You think that's okay?

[@Brukner841]

@@keifer7813 it is karma

[@thegoblonoid]

Ed you are an absolute warrior. Brutal victory over these idiots.

[@rondarkman.]

😂😂😂😂warrior 😂😂

[@b12deficient24]

@@rondarkman. You can’t speak in complete sentences so you resort to goofy emojis. Wouldn’t expect anything less from a mouth-breathing, virgin troll.

[@user-tf4bl6no6g]

​@@pacmanmcgavin7034 don't speak for 8 billion people

[@teagoldleaf4137]

​@@pacmanmcgavin7034just flew right over your head, didn't it.

[@keifer7813]

I wouldn't call the first guy an idiot

[@adamprotz]

Absolute chefs kiss....the lady was so confident in her argument, and kept interrupting you, but your last word absolutely decimated her argument and exposed how insane it is 💚

[@collectionofatoms1876]

Not to nitpick too much. But 'decimate' actually means to reduce by 1/10, but it gets used incorrectly often. You probably are looking for a word more like 'obliterate'. To decimate an argument would be to effectively take issue with 10% of the argument.

[@scslre]

​@@collectionofatoms1876the evolution of language terrifies me, too 🫂

[@buubaku]

​@collectionofatoms1876 historically, decimate meant to kill one in every 10 people from a certain group. So while you're technically correct in that it means to reduce by 1/10th, OP is also correct to use it to mean destroy, as killing 1/10th of a population is quite a great and terrible feat. It's also an extremely common usage of the word, more common than the mathematical definition, and words are defined by how we use them, not by what a book says they should mean

[@adamprotz]

@@buubaku thank you! I think of a typical usage such as ‘decimate a population’ so knew I was applying it correctly 🙏🏻

[@adventuredogsofderbyshire1550]

😅​@@collectionofatoms1876

[@discursion]

Ed's patience and grounded reasoning is ultimately what always gives him the upper hand in the audience's view. Unlike his opponents, he's not here for the satisfaction of his own selfish ego. He's fighting for the voiceless and vulnerable, and that is a great strength. Despite his patience, you can sense when he gets slightly annoyed by bits of extreme ignorance or hypocrisy people often show in full display. And yet, he know that getting angry is not the answer. A peaceful approach is the very embodiment of veganism.

[@martinkevin4827]

Totally agree

[@stewartmoore5158]

Such a dishonest vegetarian. Typical "gotcha" journalism. Well done for sticking to the points and holding his feet to the fire in a calm and rational way.

[@noone-ld7pt]

So true, this idiot picks out the most cherry picked anecdotal example to try and make vegans look like hypocrits instead of actually trying to have a thoughtful and educational debate.

[@HardToBeAPoopGod]

who said vegans can't cook, Ed absolutely smoked it

[@pisderata]

goated pfp

[@HardToBeAPoopGod]

@@pisderata 💛

[@keifer7813]

Absolutely nobody said that and you know it lol

[@HardToBeAPoopGod]

@@keifer7813 i envy your blissful unawareness of the general antivegan rhetoric .D

[@keifer7813]

@@HardToBeAPoopGod I see antivegan as well as anti meat-eater rhetoric all the time and never heard anything like that. Seems you're cherrypicking.

[@amyjohn850]

Ed, your brain works at the speed of light. I wish I was as witty as you in debates. Well done, my friend! 🫶

[@discursion]

Wow, you crushed that ignorant woman's poor reasoning. Well done!

[@Temulon]

No one actually needs a "reason" that you find acceptable to continue to eat meat. Eating meat is socially acceptable and completely legal. Until the laws are changed making the consumption of meat illegal I will continue to do so. I don't have a problem with people who choose not to consume meat, do whatever you feel is right for you. I just want the same consideration for my eating choices. You feel that eating meat is unethical and immoral so you choose to refrain from doing so, I respect your decision. I feel that eating meat is not immoral nor unethical and I will continue to do so. But vegans would never respect my decision to do so.

[@MrStrawberry86]

​@Temulon it's not that we don't respect your decision to do so. Your decision to eat meat isn't a harmless one, there is a victim that was tortured and killed so that you can enjoy something to eat. Rather than vegans forcing their lifestyle onto you it's you that are forcing your lifestyle onto animals. I'd like to think there's a healthy way to discuss this and educate people the meat and dairy industries

[@scarlett4417]

‘when murder is legal i will stop murdering’

[@mmhmm9271]

​@@Temulon you're a weak man. "Mummy and daddy said I can, so I'm going to" is the gist of your position. Absolutely pathetic.

[@lunarmuun]

@@Temulon Tolerance paradox.

[@southparkfan4603]

This woman was infuriating. Is she not capable or simply not willing to think abstract?Btw, it's funny how she dodged the gas chamber question and then had the audacity to complain "I'm also asking questions"

[@miamitten1123]

So the other guys using the fox or BBC man using a stake as an argument were better? 😂

[@stereosympathy]

The meat eater got schooled. This was university versus primary. Well done Ed!

[@leerol1]

you literally couldn't answer any of them questions any better. what a legend, Ed.

[@magda_pie]

Who was the woman that said “I was miserable passing by a KFC because I was hungry” ? Absolutely ludicrous

[@Raddiebaddie]

Right like go home and eat ur beans and potatoes… won’t be hungry anymore 😂

[@vegan-vrking9565]

Some weak minded animal murderer

[@imkarciqov]

I still miss pizzas with cheese. But that will never make me betray the cows. I'm not vegan because I stopped loving cheese; I'm vegan because I don't want to be responsible for what is going on in the animal industry.

[@vegan-vrking9565]

@@imkarciqov 🙌🙌🏾 we get closer and closer every year!!! have you tried the miyokos liquid cheese 🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤😋 so great just need a very great vacon 🥓 now 🌱🌱

[@imkarciqov]

@@vegan-vrking9565 I did have a sandwhich with "fake" cheese once that was amazing. The cheese (I think made from soy) was so good. Even though it's the only time I had delicious vegan cheese it shows that it is possible. Like you said, we're getting closer to having these options available in more places.

[@otters72]

Patience of a saint there, Ed. Keep knocking those ridiculous scenarios back, one by one with such resilience. Well done.

[@donnellallan]

I love Earthling Ed's reasoning skills. He is such a great example of how to think, as well as representing veganism. Thank you, Ed. 💜

[@rayyysmr]

Ed, you absolutely COOKED her. I’m extremely impressed with your ability to articulate and debate veganism. It’s true you win every time. Great job

[@VeganTarotist]

Don't you mean GASSED?

[@huntertobey6965]

The refusal to answer what you’re supposed to call chambers full of gas if not gas chambers was WILD. “I feel it’s emotional to call them gas chambers” like that’s supposed to be our problem and not HERS FOR SUPPORTING THEM. Meat eaters are unreal. No accountability.

[@claration]

There's a particular group that has tried to corner the market on suffering and they don't want any other groups to have their own suffering acknowleged out of fear that it will detract from what they claim to have gone through. They have done this in regards to the holodomor and unfortunately it has spread throughout society to the point where this clown of a woman is doing that against the animals.

[@savetheanimalsfree]

Trying to fool herself

[@kratos8529]

True , meat eaters are egoistic people who are selfish

[@MrX-he1pp]

I know it's been said so many times, but Ed really does have the patience of a saint.

[@SergieRachmaninoff]

I love how you gracefully dismantled their efforts to lead you into a soundbite 'gotcha' response.

[@Zeltik]

Always impressed by your patience. Hilarious how they thought it was some kind of gotcha to object to the term "gas chambers" for the chambers filled with killer gas, yet refused to propose a different name for them. Loved the animation in this video too!

[@Envy_May]

whoa zeltik jumpscare ???

[@spicytoad]

The food I eat as a vegan is more nourishing, adventurous, tasty, and doesn't just rely on the same limited repertoire of body parts. People really exaggerate how much tastier meat supposedly is and it's not hard to recreate animal-based dishes anyway. Caring about animal rights and the environment it's a no-brainer, and the benefits far outweigh the apparent pleasure derived from animal-based foods, especially with the effects meat has on health, I love how veganism makes my body feel.

[@rondarkman.]

Limited body Parts? Not really I eat ,a variety of different animals nothing is limited to delicious lambs, brain, baby pigs, kangaroo head,oysters , beef bones, liver , kidney, heart, it's actually limitless

[@archiespeller1029]

Man it’s good to hear Ed debating again. Absolutely nailed it as always. Commanding, respectful, Socratic, and stern when necessary. Legend

[@AdrianGrayComedy]

Fantastic closing point, Ed. Well done as always.

[@jonjonwp]

That woman gave me Piers Morgan vibes.

[@langreeves6419]

" I have questions.Therefore i'm not going to answer your question" She is terribly disingenuous

[@KimSmith-b9v]

He should have said...but you have not answered my question. Or... I will answer your question as soon as you have answered mine.

[@rhyso_]

That girl literally got sat down and educated and schooled and humbled. Ed with the haymakers!!

[@gemmaashford1]

Wonderful work Ed. Thank you for being our voice. I could never be so articulate, informative and calm in such a pressured situation.

[@Flyingjaffacake]

I'm totally in awe of how systematically, calmly and intelligently you demolished her position. Absolutely wonderful work, chef kiss

[@hiking1388]

Not just the lady, but the previous person as well and wanting to debate backyard chicken eggs - as though the majority of the eggs he and everyone consumes comes from that. It's very very very important to debate backyard chickens, while going out to the supermarket to buy a dozen eggs, and a bunch of random products containing eggs 🙄

[@Flyingjaffacake]

@@hiking1388 I think the interviewer was posing a genuine question to provoke debate, of course he's there to play devil's advocate too. The lady though was pushing an incoherent mess 😂

[@tonimoon]

amazing animation just to show a radio audio in a better way ❤

[@hugomarquez3189]

“You’re using the phrase gas chambers to evoke memories from the past”….I’m using reality young lady, what are they if not gas chambers?

[@shockwave8238]

she also ignored the question of "What are they then?" which was weird, because she didnt want to respond to that? Even though she brought up the point, it's just confusing

[@irish_deconstruction]

​@@shockwave8238Yep. What Ed did to her is the philosophical equivalent of disarming someone of their gun and then pointing it at them.😂

[@b12deficient24]

@@shockwave8238 She was clumsily trying to bait him into some kind of “animal holocaust” is just as bad as the holocaust argument. So disingenuous and logically inept.

[@rubensoeteman]

She was completely out of her League and realized she was talking Bs so her only option was to blurt out lots of words trying to cover up her logical fallacies​@@shockwave8238

[@miamitten1123]

@@b12deficient24it’s a common practice man vegans used in the past and as soon as the Jewish community (rightly so) called it out white vegans stopped using

[@jdw0426]

No pleasure is worth a victim

[@junglejarred6366]

Says only the people with integrity. Try to tell that to the great horde of addicted hypocrites. Good luck. When their justifications fail, as they always do, they simply go mute and call you crazy. Because the great horde lacks integrity. You would be hard pressed to find one shred in the entire cesspool. Namaste

[@Gyat-x1i]

The haters are going to use this phrase but with a comma

[@rondarkman.]

It most definitely it worth it

[@Bakershem]

Except in the case of this video, where I derived significant sensory pleasure from listening to the victim lose her argument

[@Gyat-x1i]

@@rondarkman. Buddy I've been seeing you for over a month now get out don't you have anything better to do?

[@TheSecretAgent]

You're so good at this it's almost scary. Patient, understanding, respectful, yet straightforward and uncompromising. I don't know how you do it.

[@Sonia.Jr.]

This was so satisfying to watch 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 the only thing missing is “FINISH HER” *mortal combat voice* at the end

[@jakek5417]

I always have complete confidence in Ed as an advocate for Veganism. He always nails it.

[@shinzuakachi1896]

Its incredible how fantastically calm and collected you manage to stay in the face of such ignorant and fallacious arguments. You were the reason i turned vegan, Keep up the good fight.

[@Human_Herbivore]

If a fox breaks in and kills the hens, that's also a result of people keeping them in captivity and actually putting them in harms way.

[@KC-pz4md]

Damn that’s a new perspective

[@Human_Herbivore]

@@KC-pz4md is it though? Seems to me it's covered in the Vegan Society definition. Ie, don't exploit animals for any reason, because there are always consequences for the victims.

[@bestbehave]

Exactly - a number of birds confined in a small space with no escape route, introduce a predator. No wonder there's literally carnage. Whereas in the wild, a number of birds spread out roosting in low branches - Charlie might get 1 if he's lucky. No "sadism"

[@JohnDoe-s3v2v]

@@bestbehave 👍👍👍

[@KC-pz4md]

@@Human_Herbivore there’s a vegan society? I thought it was just a few million people on this planet who were against animal abuse?

[@yanggang7]

I can’t stand when people who cut others off in a debate turn around and loudly object to being talked over as if it’s some rhetorical victory.

[@TheQuornstar]

You are an absolute master at debating this subject. Thanks Ed.

[@SergieRachmaninoff]

Just got to say thay the production on this video is fantastic. The animation is really engaging.

[@ChrisWoods-qt3ip]

Ed absolutely smashed it!!

[@KimSmith-b9v]

As always. 👍

[@Doremiefaso]

I sometimes have trouble focussing on just audio, so really appreciate the animation with this! I also found it very interesting to hear these same arguements phrased in ways I haven't before. Thank you as always Ed & Team!

[@feechi8719]

10:09 "or whatever term you want to use to describe them" lol well done

[@alex4251]

Our boy don’t miss! I’m always being asked about hypothetical backyard chickens living idealistic lives, your answer was excellent.

[@sophsaund304]

Brilliantly debated as always Ed

[@healthepeople444]

You are impeccable with your poise and poignancy in these arguments. Good work Ed

[@bestbehave]

"you're obviously trying to evoke a cultural memory..." No love, I'm saying what it is....

[@juve0nile]

This lady was pure bs. I love how she didn’t get away with it 😅

[@miamitten1123]

So the other guys using the fox or BBC man using a stake as an argument were better? 😂

[@maxXXL1000]

That went amazing (from your side Ed). It's not you against them, it is them against their ego. Keep fighting, you are an amazing animal defender and you are very inspiring !

[@ejane2112]

Again, very strong arguments from your side. Well done

[@NeutralMjolkHotel]

This last woman is so dishonest it’s nauseating

[@4TheAnimals-gt8bc]

i got the impression the conversation was abruptly stopped once it got impossible

[@jacksondowner]

Absolutely incredible job, Ed🙌🏻

[@Masilya111]

I'm not sure that last person realizes the horrors her thinking can lead to.

[@miamitten1123]

So the other guys using the fox or BBC man using a stake as an argument were better? 😂

[@PhoenixDowned]

Hilarious how she didn't even answer some of his questions 😂 You're a better man than I am Ed, thank you for persevering with the debate in spite of that.

[@a_d_a_m]

I think you knocked it out of the park. The mental gymnastics people perform in order to keep lying to themselves is mind boggling. I think your debate/conversation videos are always the best.

[@swellfoop]

On today's episode of Cognitive Dissonance:

[@1316Salva]

amazing job, I especially enjoyed how you steered the first egg eating argument back to reality instead of just saying "yeah, all of egg eating is wrong", which would dissuade a lot of people

[@vanosaur]

That was masterfully argued, Ed. You kept it logical, addressed every objection rationally and compellingly, and never allowed yourself to be led astray by sophistry. Kudos!

[@GeddyRC]

That was awesome, Ed. In a mere 30 seconds you dismantled her entire argument (which there really wasn’t one). There’s no argument for eating animals - only shallow justifications.

[@mtgigi]

​@@pacmanmcgavin7034rubbish. That took me a fifth of a second.

[@GeddyRC]

@@pacmanmcgavin7034 doesn’t mean we have to eat meat. Well that was easy.

[@GeddyRC]

@@pacmanmcgavin7034 lol Pac-Man I respect the persistence, I think we’d actually get along in real life in some weird screwy way. I think we can agree to some point, millions of people don’t eat any animal products and thrive, so regardless of whether or not we can, the question is always “should we”. We could also all drive Hummers but I think you would agree that would probably not be a great idea. There’s common ground somewhere, I’m sure of it.

[@jamesnicholson1748]

There are sound arguments if you take an evolutionary stance that entails moral disparities between your species and others, but meat eaters generally default to very weak argumentation.

[@jamesnicholson1748]

@@pacmanmcgavin7034 Nah, not satisfying.

[@Humanoya]

As always, Ed Winter is unbeatable when it comes to addressing illogical arguments that lack factual basis. Many people express opinions shaped by hearsay, without considering the consequences of their daily choices, especially when it comes to the violence and mistreatment involved in their meals. Ironically, if they were subjected to similar treatment, they would cry out for help. It's unfortunate that we find ourselves in this position today, largely because the majority have not adopted the golden rule: don't engage in behavior you wouldn't want used against you. This responsibility begins with each individual. The UN, for example, celebrates International Day of Peace every year on September 21, with events that include music performances and the symbolic release of caged doves, followed by people hugging each other with big smiles. Yet, many of those involved are also participants in war activities. What’s the point of celebrating peace when the organizers are the ones instigating wars and distributing weapons worldwide? This world needs a major shift in perspective. Peace should start on our plates, not be something we imagine is needed only far away. Otherwise, we expose ourselves to the very consequences we perpetuate. Whatever you participate in today-whether positive or negative-will eventually return to you. Positive actions bring positive outcomes, while negative actions bring negative ones. Thank you, Ed, for the important advocacy you’re doing. Peace and love be with you.

[@joeyscanlon6142]

You are an inspiration Ed I am a huge admirer of the way you conduct yourself in any debate/confrontation you have on veganism. We as a community are lucky to have you as a spokesperson and I wish you great health and continued success!

[@vegansweetie]

BRILLIANT BEYOND BRILLIANT. Im so in awe how well you handle yourself Ed. It definitely could have went south, but you killed it with education and patience. you make me a better debater and speaker. ❤️❤️❤️ much love!

[@KrwiomoczBogurodzicy]

[08:36] “I’m also [dodging and] asking questions.”

[@jiaogulan]

Every argument you make is gold.

[@martinkevin4827]

Brilliant video Ed . Such a calm and collective way to totally debunk the non vegans , they didn't stand a chance . You're an inspiration to the vegan community .

[@Skulltaro]

Ed you are the perfect activist, simply because you are so kind. I could never be so kind, keep up the good work.

[@krentdovahgolz707]

These former vegetarians make me ashamed.

[@DasRL]

their actions differed from meat eaters on paper only anyway

[@frankmedrisch7451]

What an incredible performance, my hat is off

[@JB.zero.zero.1]

Well handled, I'm glad you exist.

[@jacktully8601]

There we go, how to argue with meat eaters and win every time. God that woman was insufferable.

[@marctorrebadell]

Thank you for your work! Keeping a cool head is so important and sometimes so difficult 💚🌱

[@sethhoyt2202]

I can't even handle how good your real-time oral argument skills have become!

[@jgoodwin977]

Love it! Well done as always! 💚

[@saliexplore3094]

Probably the best delivery I’ve heard from you. Thanks for doing what you do!

[@BallCant]

Love the animation and the conversation ❤

[@ylaisawtheocean3198]

These people aren't hear to genuinely listen, they think this is entertainment.

[@rossseed1451]

How do you have the patience, man? I can't even begin... thank you for all you do and you're a better man than I for keeping your temper while dealing with these primitives.

[@SmartSmella578]

She started out so confident but her arguments got absolutely destroyed

[@thesuperiorman8342]

Even though I'm a meat eater, you have convinced me time and time again that I have no moral justification to continue to eat animals.

[@Burner_269]

Interesting, so genuine question, what is holding you back from going vegan then?

[@kratos8529]

We are not trying to force u , but we as vegans only telling u to be vegan cuz animals live through hell and deserve better , and this is 21 century and there are variety of options available for vegan diet with good nutrition

[@niek024]

Her objection to 'gas chambers' was most probably that she thinks that using them for killing humans is bad, but for killing pigs it's perfectly fine. She has no issues with the phrase, she has an issue with the implication that killing animals isn't harmless and irrelevant.

[@kratos8529]

Thats the problem with human beings, they think that only they feel pain and animals dont

[@Raddiebaddie]

You have more patience then i coule ever imagine. These questions they ask are SO repetitive and we have all had to answer the same questions over and over and over whoch gets old. But you always keep calm and provide well articulated answers

[@sameer211000]

I love your work, Ed. You're a huge inspiration for me, a 30-year old vegan. I hope to be more and more like you in my conversations.