Meat Eater Eats Chicken In Front of Vegan - Can He Be Convinced to Stop?

[@ed.winters]

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[@v.a.n.e.]

your mouth was watering, and you seemed distracted. completely understandable.

[@LouisGedo]

Create a Better 🌎 and a Better You by...........Living Vegan 💚

[@komasaeufer]

Noone cares about your project, dude.

[@charlieistryinghisbest]

@@komasaeufer I do :) I'm quite excited about it actually❤️

[@komasaeufer]

@@charlieistryinghisbest That's actually pretty sad, man. Don't you have real interests?

[@moonsugar2863]

The amount of students from prestigious schools with blatant logical dissonance is disturbing

[@komasaeufer]

They are way smarter than you soyboys, you just don't understand their logic, because you haven't eaten meat in a while.

[@b7vv_]

Indeed. It seems to me logical dissonance is more common among those types than the general populace. As George Orwell said: "There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them."

[@alexhearne-potton4695]

Not really, you get idiots everywhere in life, let's stop putting these "clever" uni kids on a pedestal and treat them like everyone else, animal abusers or not animal abusers

[@bumdittybrendan3710]

Perhaps folks are having their notions they have of their own intelligence is being reinforced by the environment they are in. Maybe this leads them to believing their thoughts are smart and good.

[@thebowandbullet]

@@alexhearne-potton4695 💯 Plus the primary criteria to attend such universities in the US is money and privilege, not intelligence.

[@cheekiestclan5668]

This 'trying to look cool' thing by not caring about important issues really needs to stop. It's actually quite disgusting

[@kennysoul8454]

Couldn’t agree more

[@Loveanimalsdonteatthem]

It’s the whole idea that compassion or standing out is “lame” or “feminine”

[@heliyaharmony22]

Exactly...I see that here in France too, they clearly try to "be cool" by acting insensitive.. Can we just gather to bring awareness about that specific point??

[@Psartz]

It takes a truly cool alpha to go to the market and buy finely cut pieces of chicken.

[@thewhitedwarf3846]

@@cheekiestclan5668 wait, what food you eat is important? Your joking, right?... :/

[@fionapeterson4867]

It honestly blows my mind how many people see supply and demand as separate entities and not linked in any way.

[@komasaeufer]

It's not linked at all. You always want to be f*cked (supply), but noone wants you (demand).

[@mcillustrator]

Right? The disconnect is unreal.

[@GDeNofa]

Ikr? it’s common sense. You keep buying it, they keep supplying it.

[@leviahimsa]

The meat paradox refers to a state, where one cares for some animals and harms other animals. Research shows it is caused and maintained particularly by six factors: Cognitive dissonance, dissociation, strategic ignorance, hedonism, custom, and marginalization of empathy.

[@ColburnClark]

The frustrating part is they acknowledge supply and demand outside of veganism.

[@mattkenney3359]

I’m once again astounded by Ed’s patience. At the start this student clearly is just trying to troll Ed by eating in front of him, saying he’d rather have his throat slit than get beat up, and not really engaging in good faith with any of Ed’s arguments but the fact that by the end he actually seems slightly more receptive and actually considers some of what Ed is saying enough to ask for his KZbin channel is a testament to Ed’s rhetorical skills. Amazing!

[@mariamerigold]

Yes!! All the comments on here belittling this guy, who at the end of the video was interested in finding out more about the animal agriculture industry, are not going to help anyone. This comment should be bumped up to the top! 🙌

[@veg0machine]

It was like the fight scene in "they live". Put these glasses on.

[@Raz-q2r]

@@veg0machine lmfao

[@Maskon2Fite]

​@@TapTapTaap I doubt that's the reason he is patient... It would be more logical to get to the conclusion that he's patient because it breeds better conversation

[@Maskon2Fite]

@TapTapTaap idk what you're talking about mate... I don't know if you replied to the right person, we weren't on that topic at all, please re-read my response.

[@stevengreen11]

"I think you're right about everything and that I'm wrong and immoral, but I don't care. I am going to continue to be immoral. I don't want to think."

[@age-of-adventure]

What a brat 😂

[@lewiji]

He was honest at least - most people live in ignorance of their conditioned choices, and as a result don't understand why they make them. You shine a light on that ignorance, their cognitive dissonance comes out on display - "you're right, I don't know why I do the things I do, but reflexively I lean on that ignorance". It's just habit, and conversations like this can create the chink in the armour of ignorance that may allow them to make better choices. I don't think dogpiling on the guy for his ethical inconsistency is helpful, tbh - I know my thought processes were much the same (i.e. inconsistent and not really thought out or justified) before I went vegan.

[@healthepeople444]

Basically in a nut shell lol. Sad behavior

[@alexhardy4559]

That is basically all the folks who pity party at butcher videos and dog videos with a mcnugget on their table

[@thewhitedwarf3846]

ed never demonstrated that its immoral, he just asserted it

[@thelandoft]

it’s wild when someone can say “ignorance is bliss” like it’s a feature not a bug

[@geageart]

"Blessed the mind to narrow to doubt" -The Inquisition - Warhammer 40k

[@stewartmoore5158]

He sat down thinking he could troll you and didn't realise he was way out of his depth. I hope he can look back on this one day and realise how arrogant and foolish he looked.

[@rondarkman.]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 cope

[@cicolas_nage]

@@rondarkman. cope with what

[@Simte]

​​@@rondarkman.You have more than 100 comments here, ay lmao. Get a life.

[@kloyo]

He's young, but he sure got some schooling

[@Winona493]

​@@SimteAs long as it is for a good reason....

[@narayangopal62]

I am Vegan. I watch Ed to improve my soft skills. He is so patient and decent. His articulation is of a very high level.

[@lalitnaidu9406]

Ah the same

[@ashlierich8283]

Same here

[@vegetable_shredder9306]

Paul Bashir from AV is really good too

[@rick777888]

Eating chicken does cause some human suffering, insofar as it causes PTSD and suicides of slaughterhouse workers.

[@charlieistryinghisbest]

And climate change,which hurts millions of humans in the global south,predominantly people of color❤

[@rick777888]

@ also the filth and disease that is spread by animal agriculture. Eating animal products does harm humans in quite a few ways.

[@bestbehave]

And folk who work in slaughterhouses are also more prone to substance abuse, antisocial behaviour issues, domestic abuse.

[@spiral-m]

also some environmental destruction. Also linked to soya plantations, in turn linked to genocide of indigenous peoples in Amazonia. Also boosts pandemic risk potentially...

[@chriswatson3464]

And vox did a video about worker injuries in chicken processing plants. I've also been injured in an egg-noodles plant.

[@harveyplantharvester1502]

I don't think about morals when I'm eating the decapitated torso of a bird who suffered greatly in his short life living in filthy, crowded conditions then was gassed and suffocated to death, because I'm eating to survive and there's nothing else to eat from the hundreds of restaurants within walking distance. Yep, makes perfect sense to me.

[@KrwiomoczBogurodzicy]

Most vegans in the past for many years didn't think about that.

[@Akyaer]

Similarly, we can imagine after crossing that bridge a very scarce experience. Few options and social stigma. The morals on the otherside of this process must be deeply rooted to stay in that space of scarcity while social pressure is everywhere.

[@cicolas_nage]

@@rondarkman. dunno mate you seem a lot more emotionally invested in what vegans do or think than the average vegan

[@ostamaza22-yt4sq]

Yes we dont cry about the animals we eat. Get it? Probably not

[@GarudaLegends]

No one cares about a silly chicken. This chicken sandwich with cheese is delicious.

[@Sonia-ui1si]

Ed has more hope for humanity than I do. 50 years ago I started on this journey, and I can tell you it is a tough one. I thought that changing my own life was enough - even though it bothered me that other people still massacre animals. The more I cling to my beliefs - the more alienated from people I get. I pray that in 50 years there is more progress, less resistance, and more people like Earthling Ed.

[@gomezaddams6470]

The last few Generations that are old enough to live on their own be consumers drive a car be on their own. So-called adults have so much apathy and they literally confused cartoons anime games and movies with real life. They will draw cute animals and make these sounds which they recognize between each other and they have this incredible love for this fictional character as they eat a real animal and actually obese from eating massive amounts of animals and animal products. And when asked if it bothers them there's an absolute no it does not . Luckily these people are so lazy that they're not having children and they won't pass on their beliefs but the ones that do even treat their children as if they're not real. Their parenting skills are zero I don't even know how their children are going to be able to take care of themselves with what they're being taught the other side of it is just pure denial and religious excuses for why it's okay to murder animals it's the same outcome but for a very different reason. There is not much of what Grandma's used to be like. Everything is of convenience and again the word apathy is the only thing I can think of it's what they are apathetic unhealthy consumerism blobs. I'm just glad I'm as old as I am so that I don't have to see this for much longer. I've spent my whole life taking care of people and animals and now that it's my turn there aren't people like me that care at all in fact the people who work in the places that are the caring places are so rude and I have no idea why they're in a job that deals with people because they don't care. It's just a job this world the older I got instead of understanding things confuses me more 😢 I used to have a lot of Hope because I was very involved and I was surrounded by a lot of like-minded people 150 or so at a time a few times a week now I'm not around anyone so maybe that's the problem is I just don't see enough people who do believe and not harming other beings. I would like Ed to use words like speciesism and also talked about viewing animals and seeing that they do have feelings. Or showing him animals shaking in fear before they go into Slaughter standing in their friend's blood that died before them I've had chickens that lived in my living room that knew where to go to the bathroom they knew when I was going to sit down when they could get on my lap like the cat does and go to sleep. They had strong feelings about their siblings and their friends. I've seen it with my own eyes I've seen them mourn when one of their group dies. You can name almost every kind of animal and I have sat with them while they cry over one of their friends dying and sometimes it's not even the same species. The animals have more empathy than a lot of these people. And their parents did not teach them empathy the kids that go to these schools

[@cicolas_nage]

huge respect for making a change i assume was much more difficult in that time

[@Planet-Bees]

When & why do you believe that humans began consuming animal products?

[@otlui]

Humans werent designed to care about animals dying, its harder to care about them dying for food then it is caring for them to be alive

[@allanbennett272]

You chose a way of eating makes you upset at the people around you and blame the people for you being upset sorry sounds like a problem that you created for yourself it’s not on other people to make you feel good about them

[@israelbuenfilsolis6081]

An animal abuser eating animals in front of an animal rights activist ? How original !

[@azk.zeleste]

and a lot of never heard excuses xD

[@ostamaza22-yt4sq]

How many animals are murdered for you vegan? 🌱💚

[@saidafzalkhon]

​@@ostamaza22-yt4sq murdered? You alright bro

[@thomassinikangas]

In this case it does appear to be more of a coincidence than a provocation though.

[@ScheveSneeuwSchuifSchep]

​@@ostamaza22-yt4sqon purpose? None. Accidently? Thousands of times less than for those who eat animal products.

[@summerlauren1051]

You can tell that the Yale boy is feeling some sort of anxiety talking to Ed based on the knee bouncing and trying so hard to appear nonchalant.

[@BirdmanVeganFuture]

Yes and he is trying to troll eating the animals, yet would be crying victim if people discriminated against him. Thats why I now ignore human issues, most are liabilities to the world not "gods gift".

[@zhongsense]

He goes to USC.

[@Untoldanimations]

some people just feel anxiety, like in general bro. it happens

[@PeterSamson-u1r]

He's holding back the urge to punch Ed for being a flog.

[@JohnHill]

Dudes like this legit make me not wanna live in America anymore. You can tell he’s never actually had to think.

[@lodey]

$70K/year education and doesn't understand the most basic concepts of economics :)

[@thewhitedwarf3846]

@@lodey and whats your excuse for not understanding basic Philosophy

[@PeterSamson-u1r]

Lodey doesn't grasp personal responsibility. Probably because his mother still baths him.

[@ADV-xu1lw]

So many of the students in these videos have such a passive "would you care to enlighten/teach me" attitude. Are universities in the US not teaching their students to actively challenge and question the systems in place and their own beliefs? I'd love to see more of these debates in other parts of the world, Ed!

[@10jonchannel]

Yes, almost as if they’re thinking “let’s see if this is worth my time, and my brilliance”

[@hivemindgoblin8540]

I’ve tried not to pass judgment on their attitudes in these videos, and there have been some kinder students, but I’ve noticed this as well. For some of them there is definitely a level of condescension and ego. It’s especially frustrating when some of them speak about their perceived privilege and how lesser fortunate communities don’t have the same options as them, while refusing to acknowledge that their decisions as people with privilege are directly affecting the options available to us who are less fortunate (referencing supply and demand and how it can affect availability and cost, here).

[@kentroskelley1389]

I’m afraid there are to many institutions in the US that are not teaching these kids how to think logically. Common sense seems to elude them.

[@deepseadarew6012]

There are vegan activists all over the world, and the conversations are rarely better than this.

[@alexhardy4559]

​@@hivemindgoblin8540to add to your comment, I'm one of those less fortunate people. I've lived in a few countries and I can say that being plant based in America is not that tough but being vegan is not really. Ethical veggies are much more expensive and vegan cheese and dairy substitutes are even more expensive. Like if I can get milk for like 2-3 USD why would I get 10 USD soy milk?

[@stefanib1040]

A year and half ago, I went from vegetarian to vegan after watching your debate videos, Ed. I was desperate to counter your arguments with my own logic - because I wanted so badly for your logic to be faulty, so that I could continue believing that the relationship between humans and farm animals was, or at least could potentially be, symbiotic and blissful. I was wrong, and it feels so wonderful to know that I'm on the right side of history. The truth is, everyone knows that what we do to animals is wrong; most of us think that there is a "better/more humane" way, but you made me stop and think about all the options, and what steps we as a society would have to take if we actually want to create a world that doesn't rely on the exploitation of the most innocent beings among us. Thank you ❤

[@kentroskelley1389]

From one human being to another, thank you for having an open mind and your diligence to know for yourself that these sentient animals have a right to live their lives just as much as humans do.

[@ColburnClark]

Good for you for being humble and open minded enough to make the change!

[@jeremyallen5056]

Nothing more unpleasant than a smirking child who thinks they’re clever whilst talking rubbish.

[@chekmayt]

Welcome to the Ivy League 😂

[@HunterBelkiran]

you described 90% of Ivy League students.

[@komasaeufer]

Chill, not everony cares about veganism so much that they know all the arguments. You guys act so unpleasant. He sat down, had a conversation. What's so wrong about that?

[@Blackbereh]

@@komasaeufer it's not because he doesn't know the arguments, but because he sat down and purposefully ate chicken while smirking to troll/belittle Ed and veganism.

[@Winona493]

​@@chekmaytWhat is the "Ivy League"?

[@veganbtw1]

The energy change from the beginning of the conversation to the end says a lot.

[@MaitakeMaitake]

It was really heartwarming to see - if he's reading the comments here, I hope he isn't put off by anyone being rude. By the end, he definitely seemed to be thinking of the moral implications of his actions, and I hope he takes it one step further by aligning his morals with his actions. It's easy for us to make jokes when confronted with a topic that goes against our core belief system, but his demeanor at the end was definitely more open to accepting what Ed had to say 😊🌱

[@duewest1987]

I really dislike these comments sections sometimes - people act like these videos are just opportunities to clown on non-vegans instead of appreciating the fact that these young people put themselves out there and engaged in a discussion which should be commended. Of course this guy's arguments were poor, he's clearly never thought about this before, but he's willing to learn and open himself up to criticism. That's a positive sign, yet everyone in the comments always goes "we're so doomed" it's entirely the wrong takeaway!

[@veganbtw1]

@ I think it’s amazing how after truly thinking about it the trollness disappeared

[@lllllllllll_lllllll]

@@duewest1987 Yeah, the comment sections are wild, on Reddit too. A lot of the vegan commenters are extremely rude towards everyone, even towards people that ask for help regarding their transition from omni/vegetarian to vegan. Examples: Q: "Hey, I can't really deal with the vegan baking substitutes, how can I improve my vegan baking?" - A: "Just don't bake, as simple as this" Q: "Hey, I don't know what to do, I dislike most vegan sources of protein like soy and pulses." - A: "Just eat them anyways. After having eaten them a couple of times, it gets better." Sometimes I'd like to ask those people if they think they really are doing a service to the animals when they are behaving like this, not helping but driving away and insulting curious people. The guy in the video seems very open, he's never thought about this whole thing and I think he did start to question some of his beliefs, and that's great. I've witnessed discussions between activists and passer-bys in my country and the discussion never went this far bc people just went away shaking their heads (to be fair, they were nowhere as convincing as Ed), so this guy listening for 20 minutes is a huge win, I think.

[@The.natrix]

You have the patience of a saint my friend.

[@knighttravels]

Because Ed's goal is so important to him and getting angry with the guy won't help him achieve it

[@PeterSamson-u1r]

But the debating skill of a potato

[@The.natrix]

@@PeterSamson-u1r If that were true I don't think Penguin Random House would have published his book about debating lol

[@PeterSamson-u1r]

@@The.natrix they dont publish books because the think he's a good debater they publish because they think there are enough emotionally crippled emptyheads willing to buy it.

[@PeterSamson-u1r]

@@The.natrix ed looks gaunt and malnutritioned so they end goal clearly isn't so appealing.

[@Eyeofthegoat]

This discussion annoyed me a lot at first. His tone made me think he thought it would be funny to see how a vegan would react if he ate chicken nonchalantly during a vegan talk. But in truth I think he was honest when he ultimately admitted he simply didn't think too much of eating chicken. Thanks to Ed's patience I can see he left with a lightbulb on. That's not easy to do

[@OMGeorge7812]

There's a very touching hopeful moment as I'm making my way through the video where he transitions from like this tool hahaha I'm gonna eat chicken in front of the vegan cause I'm so cool to a few seconds after the 8 minute mark where he actually moves a piece of a chicken off of the noodles. And comes back to it around 8:20 and takes a bite full of noodles. I believe in veganism. Can change the world moment to moment. 🤞

[@Eyeofthegoat]

@OMGeorge7812 yes exactly, around the 8 minute mark is when my perception started to shift. Maybe one day he will get there!

[@thewhitedwarf3846]

why ought one think much of eating chicken?

[@mariamerigold]

​@@OMGeorge7812 amazing catch! I noticed the guy's posture change a little after 7 minutes after Ed explains what generally happens to chickens in the agriculture industry. I feel like that was the moment the guy became serious about the conversation ❤

[@isabellezablocki7447]

"Without awareness, how can we live differently?" So true. For me, the pivotal moment happened after watching "Earthlings". "Oh my god!" was my reaction. "I can't be part of this"

[@hivemindgoblin8540]

Earthlings, for as horribly difficult as it is to watch, is truly life changing. Did I have constant nightmares for months after watching it? Yes. But did those give me the push I needed to get my head out of the gutter and stop eating meat? Absolutely.

[@isabellezablocki7447]

@@hivemindgoblin8540Yes I still have some images from it in my head that prevent me from ever eating meat again.

[@thebrewmaster66kyle9]

Hey Ed, you have truly inspired me and have helped me to learn more about veganism and how to talk to others about it better than I had been. I can say without a doubt you have been instrumental in my transition to veganism and it has truly changed my life. God bless you my friend!

[@alx4animalss]

Be vegan not violent

[@ostamaza22-yt4sq]

How many animals are murdered for you vegan? 🌱💚

[@alx4animalss]

@ extreme amounts less than you with your non vegan lifestyle.💚

[@ostamaza22-yt4sq]

@@alx4animalss thanks for admitting to being murderer, at least you're not hypocritical. Oh wait, your initial comment doesnt reflect that

[@melo-cotton7096]

​@@ostamaza22-yt4sq Hi :) Definition from 1988 : "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude-as far as is possible and practicable-all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals" "as far as is possible and practicable"

[@ostamaza22-yt4sq]

@@melo-cotton7096 thanks for agreeing with me 🌱💚

[@IsaacWale2004]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, it amazes me how patient, polite, intelligent and understanding Ed is. Keep it up!

[@MonkeyDIvan]

There is something so embarrassing about watching someone trying to put on a front yet fail miserably.

[@PeterSamson-u1r]

Like when militant activists pretend to care about animal welfare and fail and making change.

[@andreadashnea7305]

I’m not a vegan, but this guy is truly something else. “How is eating chicken hurting people”. This one is one of the most frustrating ones yet.

[@conniekorcsmaros3499]

Good job, as always, Ed. 🙏❤

[@ShayC143]

Goes to show that even if you attend a prestigious school doesn't mean you have common sense. This makes me sad and the nerve of him eating a corpse while he's being ripped apart in this debate. ughhh

[@bananaant3622]

Kind of a dumb point imo. There are thousands of doctors and scientists who eat meat, yet they definitely have common sense.

[@ben66562]

​@@bananaant3622 I think they were referring more to his responses in the debate. Which of those did you think were solid sensible arguments?

[@shaynas134]

I just know that dude bought that Panda Express to bring to his debate as a booyah. Ty Ed for your grace and wisdom always!

[@jenniferm8182]

Yes! 🙄 He said I'm ganna eat an animal infront of the vegan to make him angry. He's a fool.

[@blubaylon]

Let's give people the benefit of the doubt

[@nerdwisdomyo9563]

“Bruh it’s fine like people have been doing it forever” “Dose people doing it forever make something fine” “No” Aight off to a great start

[@Angela_Clark]

I'm not understanding how one can be comfortable with eating a mothers child and not give a damn about her mourning, the exploitation, and slavery they go through and the health crisis it causes, yet they can back taking a pill that won't change a damn thing, but swear up and down that it does. I'm glad I was able to make that connection and not allow myself to continue blind and ignorant. Regardless of what anyone says, my direction and clarity will always remain. I want to thank you for your strength, your courage, and your will to educate others by speaking out for those who can't, although people can hear their screams yet decide to stay oblivious. Together, we continue to make a difference. Change is relevant, it's visible, and it's the way.

[@v.a.n.e.]

please, don't get me wrong. If you're truly serious about what you're saying, I would kindly be suggesting to seek help. it is obvious that you are having a hard time going through what you are going through, and maybe there are deeper reasons that should be addressed in time. on the other hand, keep in mind that your comments can have an equally harmful effect on people who are sensitive in nature. you're the one who bears responsibility for the words spoken, use them wisely.

[@BranoneMCSG]

@@v.a.n.e. Stop with the gaslighting. She said she's glad that she was able to make the connection and not continue to live ignorant of animal suffering. Nothing about what they said remotely suggests they need to "seek help". You on the other hand, spending so much time polluting comment sections of every vegan video just to instigate counter-productive arguments and spew the same old anti-vegan rhetoric, that to me definitely suggests you are the one that needs to seek help. Because it seems like you've got a lot of anger and resentment.

[@elijah4973]

@@v.a.n.e. I think you misunderstood her comment

[@v.a.n.e.]

@@elijah4973 fair enough. how, according to your understanding, her comment should be interpreted?

[@alexhardy4559]

Cause we simply don't give a damm about either that mother and child. I mean I come from a culture where we cook a calf in its mother's milk so I don't really care.

[@sciencesaves]

It’s like he has never thought about this a day in his life … all while wearing his Yale shirt lol

[@bestbehave]

Did you expect anything else

[@sciencesaves]

@ nope. but I had hope. as I always do. most of us were this guy at some point.

[@bestbehave]

@@sciencesaves Fair comment. I must confess he seemed to become more open as time went on

[@sciencesaves]

@ but still ended with “my tastebuds are more important than animal lives”, which sucks

[@bestbehave]

@@sciencesaves It does, but as you point out we were all there, and t took more than one conversation for us to change

[@YeahWhoaHey]

These videos are my absolute favorite. Thank you Ed!!!

[@KoiWrez]

ill go vegan the day out of my parents house. and its all cuz of you ed. ive already stopped eating meat, mom forces me to eat ghee or id be vegan already. but i feel like im ready. just 1 more year to go.

[@savetheanimalsfree]

People act like were still in the jungle scavenging for food whilst literally in an obnoxously wealthy and abundant college, as if it is their only method of survival. Please chill... you dont need to torture babies. Eat sum beans and get on with your wonderfull life a thing that animal shouldve also been allowed to have and enjoy. For gods sakes ppl its common sense and desency. Its not even kindness

[@GsoozEnt]

This kid trolled tf out of Ed. The kid accomplished nothing except showing people how egotisical and ignorant he is. Guaranteed he sat down with that food on purpose. "Animal lovers" are pet lovers. He cant see past his own biases and he so proud of his ignorance that he wears it like a badge of honor.

[@Akyaer]

That's why he's in college. However, he was willing to test out his own biases and at least challenge his perceptions. Even if he started quite prideful.

[@IanParker]

Thank you Ed.. always a joy to watch you in action.

[@TheLiberatorsInternational]

Bravo to both of you! This student did well at hanging in there amongst the steady stream of clean and concise logic. Rome wasn’t built in a day and this is a great step forwards.

[@Cheximus]

The guy is a religious, narcassistic, idiotic psychopath. He's doomed and his parents failed him.

[@blairnowell1475]

Drives me crazy that people think they like the “tastes of meat” or identify as a carnivore, but wouldn’t eat the flesh raw or even just boiled without spices. The FLAVOR they love is the char and the spices-including the breadings with sugar and such!

[@James_Baggott]

I like how you patiently and respectfully remind people that you've already debunked their point previously. This was a perfect conversation where you were able to efficiently hit every important point at a very deep root level.

[@AnalysisLegend]

Happy veganism day to you Ed and all of you 🌱🌱. (In advance😅).

[@pinkblue9286]

💚🌱

[@gaddummit]

That mindset is so disgusting, when he starts talking about how "chickens don't have souls"

[@GarudaLegends]

They don't. Chickens are food. Grow up clown.

[@gorillababy1235]

They don’t, but neither does anyone 😂

[@gaddummit]

@@gorillababy1235 i agree

[@rondarkman.]

Don't care it's food

[@bruise_willis]

Well he's correct, vegans care about sentience, we care about other criteria. That's fair, isn't it?

[@savetheanimalsfree]

Veganism isnt a sacrifice its a gift. I WANT TO BE A BETTER PERSON and so should you💖❤❤

[@rondarkman.]

😂😂😂😂😂 what a load of bs

[@tbb740]

He brought up not being able to sleep at night because he's projecting the guilt he knows he feels, but is putting his tastebuds before them. I used to be like this, trying to justify it in the same ways but eventually the guilt stacks up.

[@ostamaza22-yt4sq]

Or maybe, just maybe, a tiny bit of option, is that he has some other troubles that keep him awake at night and have nothing to do with animals, food, veganism etc. I dont know, just a thought 🤷

[@tbb740]

@ostamaza22-yt4sq He didn't say that he personally couldn't fall asleep; he said as long as he can go to sleep with the thought it's fine for him to continue to eat animals. He is implying there's a level of guilt there that he is blissfully ignoring.

[@jhunt5578]

Carnists are in a position of power, so much like a spoiled child who's in the wrong, they don't have to take accountability for their actions. They can joke, troll, be apathetic, and immoral by their own standards with zero consequences. This dude is exhibit A.

[@rondarkman.]

😂😂😂😂 cry more

[@MustardSkaven]

At least you know your place.

[@jhunt5578]

@MustardSkaven And evidently, as a spoiled child, you know yours.

[@MustardSkaven]

@@jhunt5578 Yes, in a position of power, as you stated. Sit down.

[@jhunt5578]

@@MustardSkaven 😂 Child

[@afrasayabkhan8872]

Ed kept walking him to logical conclusions but he would always go back to gaslighting himself, incredibly arrogant.

[@kal.el123]

This guy is so morally apathetic it’s actually astounding. How do you get to the point in life you’re advocating for positive mental health concern for child abusers in order to justify your immoral actions?

[@DoctorOnkelap]

his mommie told him it was ok...

[@MaitakeMaitake]

By the end, I appreciated how the student's demeanor changed, though - he was definitely starting to see the moral implications of his actions, in my opinion.

[@kal.el123]

@@MaitakeMaitake Appreciate the optimism but I highly doubt it. He seemed to get more & more apathetic as the discussion went on

[@MaitakeMaitake]

@@kal.el123 idk if we were watching the same video, then. He definitely ended off more somber and a lot more reflective, he took a solid moment towards the end of actually deeply, critically thinking.

[@kal.el123]

@ Yeah I respect your optimist mate. But I don’t think that’s the reality of the situation at all. I don’t think this guy has the appropriate integrity or introspective propensity to have learned anything from this interaction.

[@bspotus]

What a clown.

[@elladadavtyan]

I just love how calm and patient you are.

[@veganism]

Humanity’s guiding principle: if everyone else is doing it, it's cheap, and if it satisfies my cravings, then who cares what it costs behind the scenes?

[@artvsmachine]

Thank you Earth Ed. You used to annoy me, or rather I annoyed myself over you, but you've really grown on me, and my reservations were my problem, not yours. Now the things I didn't like about you are the same things that I like more about you.

[@NTav540]

This guy, I have to give it to him for his honesty: "I like eating meat bc it tastes good". That's the whole key thing. I hate when people say things like "oh, bc protein". And he did ask to be educated. Not all people are that gracious.

[@Mukti481]

Alot of people do eat meat for protein. It has all the essential amino acids . Plant foods are not as well absorbed.

[@NTav540]

​@@Mukti481 We don't need to eat meat for protein. In fact we don't need protein AT ALL. Our biological requirement is for amino acids (look it up at). and they don't need combining in a single meal or the so called 'complete proteins' consumption. Eat a variety of plant foods (though to different degrees, they ALL have amino acids), and fulfill your caloric intake. The amino acid pool that recycle amino acids in our bodies takes care of the rest.

[@NTav540]

@@Mukti481 You don't need to eat meat for protein. In fact you don't need protein AT ALL. Our biological requirement is for amino acids, and they don't need combining in a single meal or the so called 'complete proteins' consumption. Eat a variety of plant foods (though to different degrees, they ALL have amino acids), and fulfill your caloric intake (i.e. eat enough of it). The amino acid pool that recycle amino acids in our bodies takes care of the rest. The difference in digesting/absorption is very low to matter.

[@thegrinderman1090]

@@Mukti481 Soy has all the essential amino acids. Why do you think so much of it is produced?

[@NTav540]

​@@thegrinderman1090 Almost all soy (and that applies also to corn), almost up to 80% goes to feed livestock.

[@stevengreen11]

This guy is painfully ignorant and smug. He thought he'd just sit down and troll you with no effort.

[@deepseadarew6012]

Not sure how you got that from this. It seemed pretty clear by the end that Ed has pushed his opinion over enough to consider how he chooses his food and to do more research.

[@GarudaLegends]

Vegans are emotional clowns. That is why

[@otlui]

Doubt he will go vegan mate he probably isnt as mentally weak as you and is just being nice to him

[@deepseadarew6012]

@@otlui Shoo fly

[@otlui]

@@deepseadarew6012 not a fly mate sorry

[@joel.jakob33]

it amazes me how Ed find's the strength to go through these talks over and over again.. thanks for your work!!

[@clarecurtis36]

Thank you Ed for your fantastic work as always. The student had a lot of bravado at first but I could really tell he was thinking differently by the end. I am very glad he took the time to become more informed. Most people aren’t even willing to think about this issue. So kudos to him and thank goodness Ed exists on this planet🌱

[@julietterepole1449]

It is truly so admirable how you meet people where they're at, I could never keep my cool

[@deanramsey95]

Love seeing the classic nonchalant bro hit that lightbulb moment. Keep it up Ed

[@b7vv_]

Never expected to see a panda express survival specialist.

[@falsificationism]

Underrated comment. I had a very similar thought on that part of the video when he literally invoked 'survival' like he's some zombie apocalypse prepper in the outback.

[@MrSuperOurs]

Funny haha But most vegans (me included) were like this at some point. I would justify, and even get angry when people would challenge my food choices. It's a normal response, no one likes people told that they're immoral, wrong etc... Even more so when it comes to food. I think he knows deep down how flawed his logic and reasons to eat animals are. Hopefully this conversation gives him (pun intended) vegan food for thoughts :)

[@Kinship1]

And can I just say, the absolute disrespect at stuffing dead animal in your face in front of Earthling Ed.

[@thewhitedwarf3846]

can you justify why he ought respect ed

[@kissme1518]

Respect is earned.

[@rondarkman.]

It's food cope 😂😂

[@tigeugen]

In general, it is not very culturally and respectfully , no matter what the food is

[@marvenlunn6086]

Not very respectful interviewing a student trying to eat a meal probably before their next class

[@sakidickerson]

He really said he'd rather die than be beaten up

[@Marvellouseffortthat]

I thought Yale was for intelligent people?

[@lap9]

This guy is literally every "bacon tho" troll you come across online. Such confidence but completely clueless.

[@rondarkman.]

😂😂😂 cry more😂😂😂it's our world cope

[@lap9]

@rondarkman. You've just proved my point. Thanks.

[@rondarkman.]

@lap9 Naw princesses xoxo and did that help veganism as much as it did you feeling good about yourself???

[@lap9]

@@rondarkman. Every time you obsessively comment, you’re actually boosting these videos and helping more people see the truth about veganism. It’s pretty hilarious that your time and energy are only fueling the very thing you’re so desperate to fight against. Keep it coming-you're practically working for the vegan movement at this point!

[@rondarkman.]

@lap9 It's awsome aye? So grateful I'm doing my part for 8 billion people and I can still enjoy the animals xoxoo we are changing the world , those meat industries are shaking I can feel it. 😆 🤣 😂

[@imasoto]

You’ve got so much patience, I suffer watching this putting myself in your position, lots of respect for staying there and not walking away on this guy, I don't think I could stay there after 5 minutes of explaining the same for the 10th time

[@zanirani]

Great one! It shows perfectly that for some of us it is very important to actually meet these animals that we usually consume. That’s why visiting sanctuaries is so transformative for many people. I work at the animal sanctuary and I see how people change through their interactions with our animal residents. Some people go vegan on the spot after their visit. So maybe this guy needs to meet chickens and spend some time with them. Amazing job, Ed, as always!

[@savetheanimalsfree]

Agreed we need to go back to nature desperately were too disconected aswell

[@armandoosuna6525]

It's really such a talented art form that Ed has. The art of reasoning that is so impressive. I love how he gets deeper to heart of the matter that from what I can see, he might be trying to drive the point of "we've been conditioned" this way is normal. The fact that we all live or used to live ignorantly of what has been passed down to us as habit. Truly Bravo 👏

[@Winona493]

This guy is scary! Wouldn't want to meet him alone at night. As long as he sleeps well, he could do anything to me. Wtf.

[@AlexK2967]

What a clown. I've not even watched the whole thing, but it's obvious that he came over to eat chicken in front of a vegan thinking it would be some hilarious, original, troll moment, not knowing that Ed is so accustomed to low IQ tactics. He had no justifiable points, as none of them do. 0/10.

[@TheParadigmShiftTV]

Imagine your life was taken by force so that this guy can squeeze you out of his cornhole and flush. The world is overwhelmingly evil.

[@stevesas632]

Sometimes I find the 'so called' intelligent student types to be more selfish & self centred.

[@NathanBlackberry]

Thank you Ed for your Activism for animals 🙏💚❤️🫂🐔🐷🐮❤️

[@timheye7863]

Meat eaters showing Vegans they are just like the other 99% of the people. These trolls are such rebels!

[@Xapxap1212]

Maaan, I was really hoping for "lions tho". Hands down, funniest carnist argument

[@Go-Vegan-7]

What's going on with people's mind? Nowadays people have a lack of empathy

[@silis22]

I really dislike the disrespectful comments toward the students who participate in this debates. Most of us, at some point, used similar logic and had to face our own cognitive dissonance. Insulting others only pushes people further away from veganism, which is exactly why Ed uses the Socratic method to make his points-he doesn’t insult or call people ignorant, but instead encourages them to think critically. This guy may not go vegan today, but Ed made some excellent points, and you could see how uncomfortable he became by the end, even though he started out so confidently, even mockingly while eating that chicken. His logic is beginning to crack, and if he keeps challenging his beliefs, I think there’s a real chance he’ll come around eventually.

[@RussellB]

yup. some of us still have quite a bit to learn about empathy.

[@clacclackerson3678]

Perfect, thank you. The same could easily be said of anti-Trump pundits on KZbin. I sometimes wonder whether they're on the MAGA payroll.

[@chrisrudkowski4329]

Here here 🙏🏼

[@bitny4916]

I Knew i was wrong since i was 13, went vegan 10 years later.

[@narayangopal62]

Well said. Even I feel very uncomfortable about these disrespectful comments. Veganism should cover broader stuff like being patient, kind and empathise towards all.

[@JesusDaemon]

Knowingly talking to a vegan in a debate while eating an animal is a form of insult. But since Ed is way to smart to fall for it.

[@marvenlunn6086]

Blame Ed for interviewing someone trying to eat

[@Brukner841]

@@marvenlunn6086 blame the chicken for being so tasty, right?

[@sarahjaneross2918]

The description of the slaughter process is so vile and barbaric. We are such a selfish species 😢

[@zelpazz]

If the guy in the video is reading these comments right now I just wanna applaud you for being so open minded and giving such thoughtful responses and reflections. I find many vegans in these comment sections can sometimes be a bit too negative and focus on the whole and not you as a person. We’ve all been where you’re at, I’ve been where you’re at. So I just wanna say you’re awesome and seem like a super chill cool dude and I hope you keep reflecting more on this issue because to me it seems you’re open to it and I think that’s really cool!

[@mariamerigold]

Absolutely!!! ❤❤❤❤

[@lllllllllll_lllllll]

Yes 💚💚💚

[@gautamlyf98]

Zelpazz, Super comment! 👌🏾

[@SHA256HASH]

Beautiful video as always Ed! Thank you!!

[@LukeCarfaro]

This guy was so cowardly. Unable to confront a real debate about ethics, and attempted to (and failed so so so horribly) trivialize veganism. Whatever college he attends should be ashamed.

[@gillianconway2536]

Great video. It is so disturbing to me how many people just lack empathy for animals. I have made the mistake in life of assuming that we all have a base level of care for the creatures around us. And if only everyone knew what animals are subjected to, of course we would change our eating habits! I have come to learn that is simply not true. So many people just don't care. I really appreciate that Ed shines a light on this subject and encourages those who lack empathy to think more deeply about their consumption habits. I hope this guy is changed by this experience and decides to make kinder choices.

[@gillianconway2536]

I also think it's hard for people to feel empathy, to a certain point, until they see for themselves what farm animals go through. Even if you lack empathy for them, if you see the conditions these animals are subjected to, you would want to vomit. I would not want to put meat in my body if it came from feces ridden, diseased environments, from animals that have been genetically modified. But my hope is that for most people, seeing the conditions that they are subjected to, seeing the gruesome way in which they are slaughtered, their hearts would be moved and no longer desire to consume meat.

[@thekittenthatwantschicken8018]

you dont have empathy for non vegans so why the fuck should i have empathy for animals?

[@TNvegan1958]

​​@@thekittenthatwantschicken8018 What ARE you, 4 years old?? (Apology to 4 year olds everywhere; most of you ALREADY have developed both more empathy, rationality, and sense of basic right and wrong, than-do some of these anti-vegan trolls, who don't have the intelligence to realize in which DIRECTION they're self-defeatingly influencing the fencesitters.. -And most of us vegans started as NONvegans.. -Having 'BEEN there', we well-know who is deserving/ sorely needful-of the majority-of our empathy, which we reserve for sentient living beings, rather than for selfish, forever facts-evading 'arguments'. You didn't come here either expressing, or looking-for, 'empathy.' -Just to spew your customary acid venom.

[@thekittenthatwantschicken8018]

@@TNvegan1958 grilling an extra steak for you tonight

[@lucygannon82]

Awesome interview Ed, loved that you explored/pushed (gently) all the way to the end and really presented a great arguement for veganism 🔥

[@anthminimal]

Ed you surprise me every time, this one must've been a tough one. I would have no clue what to say or how to respond haha props to you brother!!

[@samsin8231]

Not him trying to justify p3dophilia 💀

[@nicholaswalker3200]

man i can't stand smug people. there's a lot i can forgive in someone's personality but smugness just gets right under my skin

[@rondarkman.]

So you don't like vegans ?

[@a_d_a_m]

this was a really good one, you can tell this really opened some new space up in this guy’s mind 💪 most of the time i feel like it’s futile to try to convince anyone of anything and then i watch your videos and i’m astounded as i watch you do exactly that. ❤

[@Kalvis1]

Him: "Convince me" Ed: "This here is the logical reasoning" Him: I agree Ed: So are you going to stop? Him: No.

[@vioheubach3112]

Because: enjoyment

I would argue that the best thing that can be done to forward the vegan message is to domesticate and keep the animals, that are currently being consumed, as pets and display them publicly the same way dogs, cats, etc are displayed. If people see living chickens, pigs, etc regularly, they would form a connection between them and the meat they are consuming and think twice before consuming their meat. This is probably why people don't eat dogs and cats, they are known pets that people have and that people see and love. I'm not saying all animals need to be adorable to have a right to life, of course not. But to effect greater population conversion to reducing meat consumption, people need to form the same connection to livestock animals as they do to pet animals.

[@Dial_J_for_Josh]

"I didn't do anything to the chicken, I just bought it from somewhere." Its baffling that an Ivy League school student doesn't understand the concept of supply and demand...

[@MrStefano79]

This is painful to watch and it’s what we have to go through everyday, going to parties and seeing friends , nice people that we like, eating the flesh of pigs killed in gas chambers, while they are petting their dogs. It is a strange world.

[@infinityblablabla]

14:57 he excuses child abuse to justify his taste buds🤦🏽‍♀️

[@kekhart]

I looked at this debate and want to thank you! It is so beautiful to watch and hear your active listening and respectfull but critical replies, in a very non-violent way. I have a lot to learn from that! Thank you again!

[@kicknitoldskool]

13:08 ... ... ... ... ... It's kind of like watching a serial killer, then realizing it's actually just watching how 97% of humans think and knowing humanity is straight up doomed

[@otlui]

Humans arent doomed because were eating meat mate, are brains were designed this way

[@kicknitoldskool]

@otlui "are brains were designed this way" .... ... .... Watch out folks we got a genius ova hea

[@Brukner841]

@@otlui it's not so difficult to understand that we have always been mostly plant based and have no issue being 100% plant based, animal agriculture is destroying the climate and it's causing needless suffering, but you deny it all you like, karma takes notes. Especially since it is clearly in your field of awareness yet you fight it.

[@lrathome]

Earthing Ed: Unshakable, unflappable, undeterred, in the face of abject stupidity and arrogance. Thank you for your important work on behalf of the innocent.

[@MindlessSoul]

Man this was a painful one to watch😵 much respect ed

[@bohditony]

Appreciate you!! The activism has softened to a large degree in really getting the message

[@laviniahassrison3657]

He knows exactly what he is doing, he is straight up being disrespectful, and rude eating chicken during the interview, this person is a selfish, self-centered entitled child, he cares less about his behavior let alone the animals

[@Brukner841]

He's got that upper class smirk, who knows what kind of treatment his parents have subjected him to for him to turn out that way.

[@bruise_willis]

Reading too much

[@zantecarroll4448]

i think he has parents who are over reactive and he provokes them with indifference, its the dynamic he finds satisfying and familiar but ed didn't react so he began to engage

[@whitecrow1583]

Why is it always the basics with these people?