Path of Exile veteran sits down with a Diablo IV convert ft.

[@Zizaran]

Huge thanks to DarthMicrotransaction for joining in for a quick impromptu talk!

[@ahazu1445]

i expected this thanks

[@masonmccalister8535]

DM is a pretty wholesome dude, you two make a good combo.

[@ncc1709]

your audio has gone very quiet this past week

[@BrandonsUsername]

Any chance we could get an audio balance re-edit? DarthMT is fine, but youre super quiet.

[@rawrproductions5963]

NEW ROOTTSSS. Its branching exile!

[@dmdiablo4]

hey man this was alot of fun and you where very welcoming to me i appreciate that

[@BunnyTrix9]

This was a great podcast to listen to! Glad you had fun

[@pathofexileexile]

Amazing crossover!!

[@redelfshotthefood8213]

DM is a class act.

[@mephistophelesson1073]

Glad you had fun!

[@michelzero5012]

Good to have you on the poe community

[@Gijontin]

Had to put auto-captions on because Ziz's mic is so low and it wrote "Path of Excel" which actually is surprisingly accurate

[@keithwinget6521]

Right. I made the mistake of turning it up to hear him, and DM blew my eardrums out with his story about blowing his eardrums out...

[@PinkertonMTG]

I'm glad I was not the only one that could not hear ziz.

[@Grimvibes.]

Darth is such a healthy dose of personality for ARPG content

[@Royalquiz1]

so true

[@coolyoutubeluke]

100% - He's been so refreshing to watch TBH

[@DoctorStrange01]

He is like the opposite of a typical ARPG player - calm, makes sense most of the time and tries using logic as much as possible without being biased, prejudiced or simply stupid.

[@rwjscaper]

@@DoctorStrange01 it's like "hilariously reasonable" lol

[@sabihrashid252]

I love how DM is able to get along with pretty much any ARPG personality

[@joshualovell6587]

Me before this video: I can't wait watch a fun ARPG talk Me after this video: holding in a sneeze will kill you and I must warn everyone I love

[@chrystone1]

Lmao yikes

[@vVAstrAVv]

You can usually stop a sneeze by pressing up on the tip of your nosr. But that sucks. Just sneeze nerd. Nobody cares

[@warlaynmaclaren2349]

Ive enjoyed watching DarthMicrotransaction for a while, and to see both Zizaran and Darth do a podcast was a joy.

[@shawn7384]

I have been so impressed with the POE community. I played a bit back in 2016 or 2017. Having been a Diablo guy from it's inception, I really enjoyed the first couple acts, but just got so busy I couldn't really couldn't immerse myself like I wanted to. Came back a few months ago and OMG... the complexity!!! Ziz was the first content creator I found and really enjoy his vids, but everyone I've watched has been great. Pohx is freakin awesome, man! I really enjoy his RF Inq videos... too bad it won't be the same this league. It just feels like so many of the content creators want to help you succeed and that is what makes this community so great!

[@LadySimonie]

That was a fun watch! Really loved the look of DM when you asked him: "What's your defense?" LUL

[@Sadbringer]

wasn't it the two most wholesome streamers having some fun chatting absolutely loved it

[@Zaburino]

Thank you for defining the term "Dedicated Casual"; I've been playing since closed beta, but I rarely get characters past 90 and I've only beaten shaper and Elder once, no ubers, no 4-ways, no Catarina, no Maven, one cortex, one Oshabi, a couple Atziris, and just a handful of Siruses. I usually go solo self buy, as in I rarely ever sell items but will buy stuff with currency I find. And I have very little interest in trying to do more than play a couple hundred hours in the first few weeks of every league, but I'll keep showing up to see what each new league has to bring to the game.

[@Heart_Beat_]

or they could just enjoy the game to the extent they want, i.e. exactly what theyve been doing. Not everyone needs to be lvl 100 boss destroyer 10,000 perfect build@CajunGator

[@vulcanz1327]

​@CajunGatorits also called having a lot of work or interested in trying multiple games.

[@Zaburino]

@CajunGator hahaha I put my passion into things I create myself, my family and friends, and my work. At no point did I ever say I wanted the game easier, or that I feel like the stuff I haven't done isn't worth the time to get better. I no-lifed plenty of games before and was in a top tier raiding guild in Dark Age of Camelot years before WoW even came out. I've lived that life before, I don't need to live it again. I was mostly just saying I appreciate that even with the difficulty and complexity, there's still a comfortable space for me in PoE after all these years, where I can take a couple builds up to 90 and fill out my atlas and call it a day until the next league drops.

[@Venvaneless]

@CajunGatoror maybe stop being so elitist about it. It's just a game, let people enjoy it the way they want. PoE is not an easy game to learn, let alone master, not everyone has the time to be a total boss destroyer min-maxer, people have family, other hobbies, health issues - different reasons for their different ways of playing. That doesn't make them any less of a dedicated gamer. You don’t have to rub him in the nose how casual he is or "put him in a place" like a dog. Seriously, some of you treat PoE like a personality trait or badge that no one cares about outside of the game. He most likely pays for the game in stashes, if only that - he’s allowed to enjoy the game and also give their input to see it improve. In some ways I'd also like the game to change, not because I want "things handed to me", but because I love the game and wish more ppl could enjoy it, especially people with disability that see hurdles you can't see. You also talk under a video of a streamer that is a very dedicated advocate for casual players and voices the same complains some of them have. This elitism in gaming always gets me. You're no better than everyone else just because you beat Maven.

[@powrsh1]

@CajunGator Holy hell, what a crude, toxic, elitist and controlling comment, by no means do they have to "understand their place" or "stop making excuses" literally let them play how they want, not everyone has the time/will to "invest" so much time and effort, I have 4200 hours, never once have I fought Shaper, Elder, Catarina, etc, and that is more than okay, there is nothing telling me I have to fight them or get above level 90, you are not superior to anyone, you just think you are since you enjoy the game in a different way. But agreeably, brainless complainers who won't even try to look into their own faults or seek help before ranting on the internet, they are pretty stupid.

[@synk2]

I loved how this didn't have an agenda, just two guys talking about games they enjoy in a casual, conversational setting.

[@EnderElohim]

48:00 stash tab is basically when you decide to actually buy the game in my opinion like they replaced box price with stash price.

[@Ulti]

I would love to see more of you two over the course of the league and going forward. You have good chemistry and it's just a natural fit to pair Ziz up with somebody new to the game given his content.

[@xXDEUC35Xx]

This was awesome. I remember watching him live his first time playing POE and man, he's such a great personality. It was amazing how good he did as well. He did have a bunch of help from chat, but even still, he did great! And to now be doing a stream with you is awesome. Happy for him. And kudos to you, opening your platform for a new POE player.

[@AI_Ghostwriter]

I really like DM's optimistic outlook on things. It feels like there's a lot of huuuuge doomers out there and not only on the content creator side and it's nice to have a guy who's like, an enjoyer.

[@mythilicar]

id love more collabs like this, this was super fun to watch.

[@joHnuHor]

"So i'm realizing theres an insane gap here..is what im seeing.. the gap is not closing.. its widening." LOLLL too funny 🤣

[@ExiledVessel]

I'm glad ziz kind of went over some past of exile events especially harvest. I remember when ziz first started streaming I know he mentioned shaper as a top memorable moment but for me vspark every league and then the triple kill moment as well as undisputed were some of my favorites that I got to see live on stream.

[@TheEluminator]

great podcast. i wish the audio was better balanced ( ziz too quite ).

[@fredmiller906]

D4 player - Ohhhhh! I’m stuck on Shaper and can’t get past phase 2. How many tries did it take you? PoE player - Yeah it was hardcore so I beat it on the first try. I literally did the wheezing laugh I laughed so hard 😂😂 poor guy.

[@HeyArno1d]

PoE player - also I was playing casually, only like 10 hours per day and 7000 hours overall

[@zlatantherogue549]

besides the different mic levels it was an awesome talk!

[@Excaliber158]

13:05 The recognition that the level these guys play at is so far and above the rest of the world.d..

[@voswouter87]

Zizeran, your audio is half the volume of Darth's!

[@RyanAustinDean]

I love to watch both of these guys. Glad you had him (and that glorious mane) on the show.

[@Prom591]

I had two seizures related to panic attacks in my late 20s. Both in public places, so i definitely understand how that experience can go...

[@johnathancache1229]

Great interview, good to get different perspectives from players and community.

[@Mykulveli]

@Zizaran As crazy as it sounds, when I was a kid, I too did a sneeze and cough at the same time. Mine was violent and internally cut/scarred the inside of my throat a bit. Few days later it ended up getting infected and I got the worst case of Strep throat ive ever seen- something like 3 weeks. Hope you are doing well now.

[@EmoEmu]

Templar? Who is this you speak of? We have Daddy Longneck.

[@SpudNug69]

Beating all the ubers in 14 hours is actually nuts. I'm not even at yellow maps in 14 hours

[@glenjackson2343]

welcome exile, i caught the sith lord video would be great to see a long form of learning mechanics and light switches in your experience with poe, absolutely love seeing new players put the pieces together

[@Anfallhund]

ziz is really quiet and darth is blaringly loud in this but it still was enjoyable to listen to thanks guys :D

[@magsibold]

min max volume levels

[@radekciosk7428]

ziz i can't hear you

[@begaking4304]

Holy shit ziz I had no idea about the seizure that sounds awful. Sometimes I get REALLY bad panick attacks that mimik some of those symptoms. Glad your ok dude !

[@dcforever666]

My first try of poe was in patch 3.2 (Bestiary), which is about 5 years ago due to a friend showing me some gameplay. I needed 2 attempts to get into poe (Skill tree ofc overwhelmin at first glance). BUT when you get into this freaking game you may get addicted. The best of it is, if you are about 3k hours into this game (yeah i know, still a noob), there is still stuff you may discover because of the fact that there are thousands of ways how you could beat endgame mechanics and bosses. Love this game and the community

[@molochz]

It's weird the way the skill tree turns some people away. For me, I saw the tree and knew PoE was the game for me. I was instantly hooked.

[@dcforever666]

@@molochz nah that's not weird. I mean good for you that this was great for you from the beginning. I fell in love with the game because of the possibilities and you can make your way throughout the game

[@molochz]

@@dcforever666 I guess I did start in Open Beta as well. So there wasn't as much to get overwhelmed by back then.

[@hexprof]

@Zizaran - that same thing happened to me when I was 19. I was sitting on a log at the time with some friends around. My vision when to white diamonds and then black... My friends tried to feed me water and it just poured out of my mouth and I was shaking violently... I don't remember any of that though. There were random people there too and they were throwing things at me calling me a freak as I was seizing. When I eventually came to and we walked away, those guys threw rocks at me across the field. I don't understand the mindset to attack someone who is having a seizure.

[@KainLustt]

This is the crossover we never knew we wanted

[@jeffraunec]

Piety and dominus farming. Merc a3 so good 8:06 , those were the days. Atziri was when Forsaken Masters was released I believe

[@jimthelegend9992]

Yay! DM is awesome. And love how he’s trying to make a Palpatine build 😂

[@tigerseye1202]

1:09:40 Are you kidding me??? I always build Tier 3 towers in front of every portal the enemies come out and you're telling me they just don't work if I'm not looking at them?

[@Legless560]

Damn, after all these years I didn't know that if you let Shaper die on Elder fight you won't have a chance to get a watcher's eye. I guess we learn every day ;) Awesome chat guys!

[@saschaberger7201]

OMG O,o

[@matthewalvarez6884]

I didnt even realize he was on our side and ive played for 3 leagues

[@Deminese2]

really? That was known since it released.

[@lostgunman8684]

That helmet was BAD ASS! Also, great video :D

[@nicwin4006]

PoE's dad talking to PoE's newest exile. What a wholesome podcast :)

[@Commandelicious]

I am playing with a dear friend of mine I stared Warframe with 600 days ago. Both over 2500 hours, and now she played PoE for the first time 2 weeks ago. It's not easy if you hate maths, but testing out stuff and following a guide is fine! She started SRS Guardian and had a really good time. We stopped at every lore fragment and voiced line and listened to all the dialogue together. It's fun. I made a build for her, it's basically Ziggy's arc of surging build but with ice nova. Let's see how that works out!

[@adamsb72]

The happiness when dm asked ziz to see the helmet was priceless

[@marcosgoncalves1571]

wow, nice to see this type of interaction

[@aryotron7256]

DM is so nice. Seeing someone who wants to have fun playing an ARPG is refreshing 😂❤

[@aryotron7256]

All of this was so fun

[@billybob-v1i]

Wholesome community collabs, love it.

[@redfish337]

The stupidest thing about momentum is that it's the support gem they give ranger at the start of the game. And while maybe the basic concept is simple enough (if bad), the text is complicated AF. You watch some new player start with ranger and they're more tripped up by the ****ing momentum gem than the skill tree. "Gain 1 Momentum when you Use a Supported Skill Gain 1 Momentum every (0.70-0.51) seconds while Channelling a Supported Skill Lose all Momentum if you Move Supported Skills have (15-20)% increased Attack Speed per Momentum When you reach (3-5) Momentum, lose all Momentum and gain Swiftness for 1.5 seconds Swiftness grants 15% increased Movement Speed per Momentum lost" WTF is this?!

[@CryptoPunk_]

Bro You just said it , it's written on it 😂

[@loki_3545]

What a stream. DM is the consummate pro. Asking tons of questions.. leading to a greet ziz moment on the lore. Wow .. I should actually pay attention. Lol

[@MagicManICT]

Good to hear Zizz saying to enjoy the game and learn, don't fuss over min-maxing your characters. Too many people out there just want to charge into min-maxing on every game, and maybe that's what they ultimately enjoy, but it just feels like missing a huge chunk of the journey.

[@steel5897]

It's a paradox because PoE in many ways feels like it's designed FOR that audience who always googles and finds out, through other people, the best way to do something and plays the most optimal way at all times, but the game's wealth of complexities are best enjoyed by learning on your own and growing and doing better with each character. But most people will not even attempt to play the game like that, and the people who do want to play like that, can feel some kind of social pressure by seeing everyone else acting like you're playing the game wrong if you're not measuring your playtime by div/hour by the third day of the league. Whatever, really, but it makes me think sometimes.

[@scottcampbell9456]

This is a Treasured time. So true Ziz. Remember gaming as a kid and there was no Twitch, no KZbin.

[@alexwallin6401]

last 5 seconds of consciousness, "oh I died". lol ziz

[@Azurephen]

Man is all in on the try to die less than I do branding.

[@macrors]

"We Will Watch Your Career With Great Interest"

[@SLCclimber]

You rock Ziz, and DM. You guys are great!

[@mimibeans]

oh this is just a wholesome moment when 2 of the nicest/gentlest poe streamers do a little talk

[@iconicfury]

"...and hopefully it's branching, exile" made me laugh so damn hard. went and subbed him just for that

[@BunnyTrix9]

I love love love to see you two collab!

[@alicerain8686]

Ziz your seizure reminds me of something that happened with me. I went to evo to compete (for fun) in mortal kombat... I ended up losing my first match, got really nervous, and then had a seizure. I woke up to random people worried about me, and my parents were terrified. Some random lady gave me water too. Then I got up and flawless victory'd my next match lol. Yeah seizures are a bit more common for me but not that much so. I had one for 2 years back to back (around the same time each year), and now I haven't had one for I would say 1.5 yrs. They are definitely a scary experience. Hope everything's okay!

[@rasmusrode916]

damn ziz, what a story about the seizure and stuff. good thing you are allright!

[@alexmac305]

Idk if something got messed up but your audio is way lower than DM's @Zizaran

[@Layalinn97]

I didn’t realize how most people play the game solo. I’m very grateful that my brother got me playing this game, we play together 90% of the time and love it!

[@TH_ANDY]

Just got home with some wendy's and here a podcast waiting for me featuring a fellow wendys enjoyer. Nice

[@Capitan_Captain]

I love you both guys, your channels are both awesome

[@slytherinda4669]

two of my favorite content creators together!!!

[@MrAnony07]

Darth the main reason why I decided to actually stick with POE I never really made it past lvl20 because I got bord and felt like I was messing up my build's every time. I tried like 5 or 6 time's to get into the game just couldn't do it then after watching his video I said ok lets acutely try this time so I followed Pohx's Righteous Fire build I really didn't look to in-depth of what the build was saying I just followed the simple info of what skills I was going to use and what path to take for the skill tree because I really didn't want to spoil to much so I only followed the path and skills and learned what I was doing along the way I'm now in the 40s and so far I'm really liking it and I'm actually understanding what I'm doing and building.

[@AlviArin]

kinda bummed about the audio, ziz's mic is way too low compared to DM's, hard to strike a nice balance :(

[@properwaffles]

7k hours is crazy. That’s basically playing nonstop from January 1st to October 18th-ish.

[@MrEvilyogurt]

really enjoyed this colab

[@uoislame]

lol its wild them talking about the giga nerf for harvest because that was the last league i played. i just started looking at content because i was gonna come back this league. guess i wasn't the only one.

[@neony123]

I don't know if this is just because the upload is recent but watching hour and a half interview is intimidating without any timestamps. It would be lovely to have either timestamped questions / main topics to browse the video.

[@nguyentri3608]

The thing is, you don't actually watch it, but rather let it play while you do something mindless

[@neony123]

If i''m not supposed to watch it why would I watch it at all@@nguyentri3608

[@dreamzerg]

"I'm 6'1 so i'm not a freak" as I'm 6'6, I must be a freak :(

[@direnova6284]

I think I'd watch DM whatever he plays, he's such good company and funny as hell sometimes. One of the best finds for ages for me.

[@Mysterymelmoth]

Man what a cool podcast, only thing that could have made it great was if I could still hear Ziz past the halfway point xD

[@vulcanz1327]

I made my frnd try poe and he loves it now we both like complex games so we play poe together all the time now its very fun

[@Pusetryne]

I good conversation with a fellow gamer. Refreshing with new players genuinely liking the game. A good time to spend some hours while waiting for leaguestart. Darth is a cool cat.

[@VeryJUICED]

Darth is such a legend. Cool dude.

[@Rockuaumijlocu]

Love u both guys :)

[@scottcampbell9456]

Brilliant stream guys.

[@Jules-77]

Very enjoyable. Thank you. Glad you survived Exilecon Ziz 😳

[@JeremiasdeAlmeidaSantos]

where can i find the documentary on how the community changed after harvest nerf?

[@Saiperia]

the new amageddon brand that triggers once and then expires or the reworked pennance brand should be good picks for archmage, because you can recover 10% of your mana when brands expire from brand mastery. thats what i thougt about after looking at some of the new gems.

[@Sjeg84]

Wholesome chat!

[@MitVerlaubTv]

Zizaran: "The PoE Event was very exciting and i almost died, yeah good Event." :D

[@PuppetPal_Clem]

can we please get normalized audio for the next one of these? DM was twice as loud as ziz the entire time. Love the content but not a pleasant audio experience

[@Nuggetmonk]

"the weird batman thing were you have to mug those dudes in their HQs"

[@hectorojeda211]

I feel like DM is getting inside the mafia family or something 😂

[@eLguL]

considering that his shield bash build had 300k dps I think 4 mil on his new one is quite an improvement 😁

[@anaalvensleben789]

Ziz: I'm still alive, poggers! And wow, the exact same thing happened to me on a *domestic* flight, being told it would go all the way to end destination and it just hung out at the connecting airport.

[@ArchangelMiniatureGaming]

Id love too see that documentary of what happened with harvest. Does anyone have the link? Im not sure what to search for

[@loopygordo]

Damn the ole harvest scars. Thats the drama that finally made me step back from the community pretty significantly.

[@padarousou]

Now I know why they say bless you when you sneeze

[@Mink0twink]

Sick collab!

[@TheYoutubeUser69]

Soundcheck lads, soundcheck

[@Squallcloud95]

Was a really nice podcast. Found it funny how Ziz was i hate all these mechanics and Darth is that's the reason i love all of them haha.

[@dommyshan]

Oh damn I didn't know about the seizure. That's crazy.

[@Charlie14889]

This was great but the audio was not balanced. Zizaran's mic is too low

[@Dexxxterity]

Very informative I didn’t even know there was a problem with ggg and PoE players, what are the effects of that problem in PoE? It’s very similar to what happened with Diablo 4 players and blizzard, very interesting

[@MattDoesLife539]

Darth is what quin is when he isn't doing the "main character" "Ethical" "god gamer" act.

[@wwbcwp]

10-20 hours per day = "dedicated casual" oh god...