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A new report says that the New England Patriots will move on from HC Bill Belichick in 2024. Nick Wright, Chris Broussard, Kevin Wildes, and Greg Jennings discuss whether or not this is the right decision.
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[@b1gturtle]

Wait till patriots fans realize it’s normal to miss the playoffs multiple years in a row

[@brianhartman7135]

Lol. Back to the sewers with the rest of us.

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Exactly!!! 👊👊✊✊👏👏👏

[@bigbass4811]

as a Broncos fan this used to not be relatable

[@nanabrefo9922]

But they are poverty now

[@donniethomas6785]

I remember the 80's and 90's we only made the playoffs a handful of times ,we know how well we had it

[@shezpherd]

The smirk as Nick started leading his take to BB going to Tampa my god I couldn’t stop smirking l 😂

[@geovannysiguenza3106]

Wilds caught on to what he was doing too and started laughing 😂

[@FrostiiVibes]

I like Nicks take simply because Belichick seems to be petty enough to do that if he were to be let go😂

[@danielzimmerman5837]

I was just thinking about this a couple of days ago. Bill would totally do it, and there's a precedent for the Bucs trading for a coach.

[@johnbox271]

That would be funny.. 😁

[@jeffwheeler1893]

Except he'd fail miserably because there is no Tom Brady there either

[@CorePathway]

I’m not a Nick fan but that was an S tier take. And wouldn’t it be fun AF to watch it play out.

[@JohnSmith-nj4zq]

Belichick will just be like his other coaches. He'll get fired like McDaniel after a couple of season of sub .500. He is garbage just like his coaching trees without Tom Brady.

[@kingmeup21]

Bill to Tampa to even score with Brady is a hilarious and great take

[@alexander0the0gray]

Wildes got me Googling Claudia Schiffer 😂

[@Oxide_Shadow]

Okay now we need "Wildes' headcoach pyramid" segment. 😛 And Wildes gets to make a new criterion every week for how the coaches are ranked that week. One week they are judged on actual coaching, the next how they throw challenge flags, then how they chew gum, 'coachiest' hairstyles, funniest press conferences and so on. 😆

[@dallinbagley4486]

This needs more likes. All those things should factor in. Coaches should lose points for whoever plays more in bad weather too.

[@KonaTheDragon]

Nepotism and wife quality are in my criteria 💯 Significant weight gain is a clear sign of a solid coach!

[@Muddyronews]

@@KonaTheDragonwife quality?😭😭😭😭😭😭that’s wild!!

[@superbruhz2602]

@@Muddyronewswife quality won’t make it on tv but good thinking 🤣

[@travisporter7082]

2021 was literally 2 YEARS ago....not DECADES AGO, YEARS!!!!

[@Yuan-lo3zz]

That's his point. In just two years, the Patriots have regressed heavily. There has not been any sign of the direction that they're going to make significant improvement toward championship contention, which is why they need to be concerned with what moves to make to prevent this decline.

[@williamerazo3921]

@@Yuan-lo3zzit’s called striping the team to rebuild. The guy won you 6 titles

[@Yuan-lo3zz]

@@williamerazo3921 I literally just said that. 😂

[@12packersfan]

One one hand the Pats defense is still legit and it’s been an embarrassing offense that has killed them. On the other hand, who signed the offense

[@Mister3Pac]

To be fair Bourne going down early didn’t help and the musical chairs being played at Oline for the majority of the season was not helpful either.

[@jeffwheeler1893]

@@Mister3Pac He got hurt in the 8th game of the season. Not like they lost the guy week 2. The offense sucks

[@MiguelSosa-oo6ww]

But according to Brady the haters a top 10 defense is all you need to win SBs😂 Turns out you have to score too

[@KonaTheDragon]

@@MiguelSosa-oo6ww I’ve never ever heard anyone say that and I’ve followed NFL for 25 years. I have heard people point out that Manning had a top 10 defense twice to Brady’s 16 times. And right now I’m hearing hyper emotional people lie to protect Brady for some reason..

[@Kris2fst4u]

@@KonaTheDragonFinally someone that makes sense.

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Nick went Evil Genius. 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[@user-jh9tq6rt8d]

“Tom Brady is a system QB” “Bill Belichick carried Tom and the Patriots Dynasty” “Tom is nothing without Bill” Bill Belichick personally made sure that these allegations aren’t true

[@brotherLee340]

They were true early in his career tho. Brady became Brady because of that system.

[@HardCold-Alquan]

@@brotherLee340 How come Bledsoe did not do what Brady did - with the same systems and the exact same team?

[@mattbedrosian5298]

@@HardCold-Alquan Because that doesn't fit that kids narrative

[@israelp348]

​@@brotherLee340LoL how TF were they true? Matt Cassel literally missed the playoffs with the greatest teams we ever assembled and Bledsoe was on his way out and had losing years before Brady showed up.

[@FlpDScrp]

@@israelp348Then under that same system, why are and have been trash now ?

[@Joes35]

Wildes is a national treasure! 😊

[@mattbedrosian5298]

Counterpoint to Nick's take on Bill going to Tampa. If he goes down there and it all blows up in his face, which is the most likely scenario considering the 11 year sample size we have of Bill as a head coach without Tom, his legacy will take an even greater hit. You can't go down to Tampa and miss the playoffs if you're Bill, that's a disaster waiting to happen.

[@chrisgiunta94]

Honestly I see them going to the playoffs in that situation. But also it makes sense bill as a personality needs to chill a bit and Florida is a retirement state and he will bring discipline but also relax a little

[@lumiereeclair]

Given how the rest of the division is, you don't have to actually perform that well compared to other divisions, so it's very winnable and that guarantees a playoff spot.

[@2089Monster]

Get rid of Mac as well

[@travisporter7082]

There are 5 year old patriots fans that have never seen the patriots in the super bowl....give me a break.

[@jaythemachine3845]

5 years that it?

[@clarkkent1521]

Belichick going to Tampa Bay might break records. Their old record of going 0 and 14, Belichick could go 0 and 17.

[@Xervello]

As soon as Nick was crossing off NFL coaching vacancies on his list, I knew exactly where he was going and what he was doing.

[@Loki_Leftist]

Once I seen this report. I thought of Kevin 🤣🤣🤣

[@IWill_iTV]

What clip were they playing that we didn’t get to see?

[@mitchellsmith9289]

This was one of Nick’s best takes. How crazy would that be if he ended up in TB

[@timland9855]

i agree. this was a grat take

[@matthewvickery1327]

“That’s a great take” as Chris Godwin, Devin White, Lavonte David, Antione Winfield and others are all potentially leaving next year. Who else is bellicheck going to have lol

[@Lance_Thorpe_Esq.]

San Diego would be a good fit. He should be able to improve that defense which always seems to be a problem.

[@raulaguilar5398]

Too bad San Diego doesn’t have an NFL team.

[@jeanfourcade]

@@raulaguilar5398 Precisely !

[@michaelharrington75]

The only way Belichick will win another Superbowl is if a team already built to win a Superbowl fires their head coach at the end of the season, and brings Bill in just before the playoffs. The luckiest thing that ever happened to him was drafting Tom Brady in the 6th round. Just as Brady told Robert Kraft after they drafted him. "Drafting me was the best decision you've ever made.'

[@bryantmcmickle1650]

That’s exactly what Brady did. Brady went to a team that was fully loaded and just missing an elite quarterback.

[@mattbedrosian5298]

It's going to hurt a lot of people's narratives if Bill goes to LA for the Chargers just for him to miss the playoffs and underachieve with Herbert and the loaded talent they have over there.

[@fame4389]

​@bryantmcmickle1650 Right a team fully loaded but didn't make the playoffs come on man you making the point Brady is the force multiplier especially for the patriots if it had not been for Tom Brady Bill was about to get fired in New England as well the man record without Tom Brady is horrific

[@fame4389]

​@@mattbedrosian5298naw Bill Belichick a great defense coach if he get that chargers defense it's going to be ridiculous im not going to lie about that

[@sonikspeed19]

@@bryantmcmickle1650 If you're talking about Tampa then you're lying. That same Tampa team that was decimated by the Saints? The same Tampa team that was barely average before the bye week? That same Tampa team that needed Brady to recruit Gronk, AB, Playoff Lenny, and the kicker Succup, all of whom scored in the SB? That same Tampa Team that was torched by Taylor Heinicke in the playoffs? Fools like you look at that SB and don't understand why they won. It wasn't the greatest team of all time, it was just the perfect team to counter the Chiefs that year. They were the Succaneers for a reason.

[@mathewlynch583]

Claudia Schiffer reference is crazy

[@bigkoeshka]

Seriously slayed me. The setup was amazing and the delivery... Pure gold!

[@jacobbeasley1965]

Daboll being on the graphic twice is great! 😂😂

[@keatonrohlfs1458]

It’s wild to have O’Connell in the no way column

[@RobertMichael]

Wildes face at 5:20 😂😂😂😂

[@NOT_AIDAN77]

Before you fire Bill Belichick, the coach…. Fire Bill Belichick, the GM. Get someone that can build an actual offense.

[@larrylindgren9484]

Correct. the HC isn't the problem. It's the GM. Trouble is he's the same guy. No NFL team should have 1 guy doing both jobs. You need another voice. Someone to answer to. Id they are the same person you end up like NE. You have a great HC and a terrible GM.

[@ethanv310]

@@larrylindgren9484also the Texans had the same problem under bill O’Brien

[@dogmd7]

"Look at this video" **doesn't show the video**

[@BrEmail]

The underlying unspoken problem is Belichick's attitude.... there's no checks and balances and anyone that's really paying attention can see there's no love loss between him and Kraft....at this point If I'm Kraft I don't think I can trust him to run this franchise

[@WillyPDX94]

Nick's best take in a long long time: Belichick to Tampa Bay. That would be the perfect way to finally lay to rest the Belichick vs Brady question. And I think we all know how that would turn out. Bill would prove once and for all that Brady was the secret to the Patriots dynasty, as the Bucs slowly sank into the Gulf of Mexico. 🤣

[@lakeozarkrei3767]

Well... to be fair. Belichiks defenses did carry Brady to those first 3 Superbowls... check the stats.

[@youtuber_00786]

@@lakeozarkrei3767 and the last, holding their opponent to 3 points.

[@WillyPDX94]

Fair point. @@lakeozarkrei3767

[@markula_4040]

Sorry Nick but the Rams COULD have a coaching change. They won't fire McVay because that would be stupid, but if they don't manage to make the playoffs I can see Sean walking away. He's teased it the last 2 offseasons. And as crazy is it sounds, Bill would not be a horrible hire (although I would not recommend it either). Rams offense is pretty good right now but the defense has fallen off as they're are currently ranked in the 20s.

[@555calex]

Please correct me if I am wrong here but didn't Brady start under Parcel who is a pretty stiff coach to play for?

[@discount_ChadKroeger]

The guys ate up that Claudia Schiffer joke 😂

[@SweatPantsJoeEATS]

Didn’t Belichick and Brady open mouth kiss each other after super bowls?

[@geraldineyarborough9496]

So let me get this straight, all I've heard for YEARS is Belicheck can keep replacing players and still keep winning! All I've heard for YEARS is its the Belicheck system, Brady's a system quarterback! In Bill we TRUST! And know that has turned out to be a complete MYTH, now he needs to be on a ready made team in order to win!😂 Belicheck is also the same guy who mocked Marv Levy for coaching in his 70s, and now Belicheck is the same guy coaching in his 70s hanging on for dear life!😂

[@ajfatca]

its funny too because Belicheck mocked Marv because Marv accused Belicheck of having Browns players fake injuries because they couldnt jump the Bills offense...aka being unsportsmen/cheating....weird

[@KonaTheDragon]

Looks like you’ve solved it: head Coach’s don’t matter. It’s always about the QB.. Andy Reid, bum. Sean McVay, worthless. Mike McDaniel, expendable.. Patriots with 17 top 10 defenses in 20 years, pure luck and frankly irrelevant 😏

[@KonaTheDragon]

I’m glad there was a genius level football mind in the comment section to explain how simple this sport is! 🙏

[@geraldineyarborough9496]

@@KonaTheDragon Apparently, u need an HEARING AID! I said coaching MATTERS but the type of players u have matters MORE! Andy Reid is a bum!😂 Andy Reid made it to the playoffs EVERY YEAR with Kansas City, with Alex Smith, an average quarterback! And Andy Reid don't have to RECORD opposing teams plays in order to win! Belicheck's record with the Patriots before Brady took over for Bledsoe was 5-16, in other words, a BAD coach! Now that Brady is gone, Belicheck is looking like the same coach before he had Brady, a BAD coach! That Belicheck KOOL AID must taste real good!😂😂😂

[@geraldineyarborough9496]

@@KonaTheDragon Let me guess, another Belicheck KOOL AID drinker!😂😂😂

[@rquirozsoto]

Great final take by Nick

[@Vince-tt1uj]

"Let me see him win without the Avengers" 🤣 about Shanahan was gold

[@angelatanurdzic7508]

This is amazing!

[@josephschopp1505]

Dolphins fan here. I feel bad what the patriots are going through. I can sympathize.

[@michaelcurtis9179]

Tampa Bay should keep Bowles for another year. They're playing fairly well, despite having $80 million in dead cap this year

[@mattbedrosian5298]

I've watched every Tampa game Bowles has been the coach last year and this year. They are at a competitive disadvantage every single week because of him. The talent they have had this year and last should not have them being a sub .500 considering how easy their schedule has been.

[@taylor860gang]

Living in NE and listenin to sports talk radio they have been calling for bill to be gone for some time now

[@mikep3813]

Claudia Schiffer, Wildes? 😂 c'mon man!

[@Tragedy602]

Holy cow it's real!

[@fourbreakfast]

Where is Doug Pederson on Wildes graphic??

[@thrawn5k]

"I want to see Shanahan without the Avengers?" Well, BB without Tom Brady has real numbers, and they are not good.

[@Indomitablespirit108]

Bellichick has nothing more to do! He's beginning to look like an old politician who can't move on! Pretty Pathetic!

[@donaldrowe8460]

how long does it take for teams who lose their franchise quarterback to get back to prominence? Dallas, Miami, and San Fran, etc. ?

[@gabeg2364]

Meanwhile Dallas fans waiting since 1994 . 😂

[@adamjameson4505]

That's a really good take from Nick. Funny, but good.

[@donaldrowe8460]

How long does it take for teams who lose their franchise quarterback to get back to prominence? Dallas, Miami, and San Fran, etc. ?

[@robertjackson2700]

I don't know if that was a great take about Belichick going to the Bucs, but it was certainly an amusing one 🤣

[@m.yz50]

The clouds aren't moving in the background but I wonder if that's an accurate view.

[@billyjean5934]

I'm imagining still has a poster of claudia schiffer up on his bedroom wall, much to his wifes annoyance!

[@Nandoswitharando]

2:36 Was Wildes about to compare Brady and Bill’s relationship to an abusive relationship 😂

[@rcng086]

Wildes would seriously trade Daboll for Bill Belichick, that's the most unpatriotic thing I've ever heard

[@2089Monster]

Yessss finally

[@PierreBlain-tr3hg]

😂😂😂 Wildes..."get Claudia Scheffer".

[@connormaclean4476]

The fact that Shane Steichen is a No Way when he has the same record as DeMeco Ryans who is a Yes is insane. They have the same record. One of them has CJ Stroud who everybody loves and the other has Gardner Minshew. Both should be ‘Hmm’ as I think it’s way too early to judge and to have them this far apart is wild.

[@TheRealMichaelP]

Wildes obsession with “The Take” strikes again… why can’t anyone have an opinion anymore

[@retepoteil]

Why did not the hey ever show the clips🤬

[@double2706]

People also forget that Tampa's GM came from that system. So I think it's someone BB May concede personnel decisions to.

[@junesaez4273]

Tampa I like it Nick🤣💯

[@frenchpressme]

the buildup for that last take by Nick was awesome.

[@dcaslick]

Shanahan only in the “Hmm” tier is such a bad take I’m surprised it didn’t come from Nick.

[@vh8542]

Is Brady's stake with the Raiders finalized? If so he can hire Belichick and own him like he has for years already 🤣

[@robertmclean3612]

Think time is correct for both Partys

[@cousinjeb7116]

Bucs fan here! Good God Gertie!!!

[@godagon97]

In Nick Wright I trust.

[@just4justincase]

All the stats, all the opinions and conversations in the world doesn’t change the FACT that Bill was a losing coach before Brady, and a losing coach after Brady. That’s it.

[@almonjoseph4382]

Just imagine someone saying the spurs is going to move on from Greg pop ? 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@WillyKillya]

So Wildes would trade Belichick if he could get Daboll, DeMarco or LaFleur in return, but probably not Payton, McCarthy, Shannahon, and definitely not Carroll?? There are more wild decisions in this graphic, but now I would not trust this man to cross the street.

[@cognitiveinstinct2929]

Belichick in Buffalo? Josh Allen cannot handle that lol.

[@WevinKildes-kq8vp]

KW nailed it!

[@quezzyb617]

Bill to buccaneers is hillarious

[@drakewoods5335]

Great take. Tampa Bay. But l don't see it happening. 😂

[@rcud1]

Wherever Belichick goes, would be a big mistake to let him be GM as well as coach. Make him be coach only.

[@jjgreen5206]

I don’t see Bill anywhere else. I think he goes to the booth and TV.

[@counterburn1216]

You know what, Nick you’re right. He needs to go to Tampa

[@defface777]

Jim Harbaugh to the Patriots... Is a done deal...

[@jimmy.1br]

If Nick is right about the Bucs and bill, that will be the greatest take in the history of sports potentially everything😭😭😭😭

[@asstasticyeager5402]

I would hate this as a Broncos fan. But I could see him going to the chargers.

[@Joseph-pm5vv]

Chargers need some sort type of structure and someone to fix the defense

[@kingcollins3965]

Honestly, Bill coaching hasn't been the issue. But his ability to find talent through the draft is killing the patriots. He is drafting like it's 2003, and he needs to draft like it's 2023. Wish he would give GM role up, but I know that won't happen.

[@codyb.3015]

I don't understand why Wildes has Demeco so much higher than Steichen despite Steichen having the exact same record and working without a starting QB. Either over Bill is jumping the gun (They're new), but Steichen deserves as much if not more credit than Demeco, and if he takes the Colts to the playoffs, he should be CotY.

[@AC-cz4im]

Patriots should hire Eric Bieniemy. He’s got the patriot way and toughness in him. Get it done.

[@harisselimovic1952]

It’s common sense that qb and coach should get along. If the coach doesn’t like you and you have to change your personality and shake his hand every time it won’t bring out the best out of the qb.

[@Stacks_II]

He’s from Annapolis, Washington makes sense

[@Greglooseanus]

Dude please don’t let Bill anywhere near Buffalo

[@distantgalaxymusic1447]

I don’t even need to see the video. As George Harrison said “All things must pass”

[@AshlynnSmells]

Mcvay keeps saying how much he loves the Rams, try for Raheem instead, he deserves a head coaching job.

[@ryanwhite9437]

Lol bellichek going to Tampa would be WILD

[@sogravvyproductions4176]

I think our offensive struggles is really a O'brien problem more than a Belicheck one!!!

[@grantandersen]

What about Bill O’Brien.

[@danielventura8118]

Tom Brady was that franchise.

[@sagamer3594]

Brian Daboll is a 'yes'???? wtf

[@REB4444]

The San Diego Chargers would welcome him with open arms, with Josh McDaniels as his OC getting Herbert up to speed and that underperforming Defense to be Championship level. It would be a personal challenge for him to keep him interested and show he still has it, he would have so much talent to work with in that Defense, and I'm sure McDaniels would LOVE to stick it to the Raiders AND the Broncos twice a year.

[@gregorybriner9658]

Funny how Wildes assumes all the other NFL coaches would even want or be in play the Pats job. Pats fans are so arrogant!

[@qstaratma9096]

We don’t want Bill in Tampa!

[@rohanshah7559]

I don’t like belichick, but I would love for him to go to the bucs because that would be peak cinema no matter how he does