Patton Oswalt & Conan Discuss The Future Of A.I. | Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend

[@aarondadvlogs]

If this were a Black Mirror episode, there'd be a twist at the end where this whole conversation was pre-written by an AI.

[@zozoartstudio4727]

Conan never was

[@Ligmaballin]

Or Westworld Back when it was good

[@MackovaDraga]

Omg you caught that like a pro. I cant unsee it now.

[@beuxjmusic]

I like it. This is appropriately silly and risible to tickle the Black Mirror creator xD

[@norahyde5733]

I asked ChatGPT to write a conversation between these two comedians in their comedic styles and this is what it came up with: Conan O'Brien: (leaning forward) Ladies and gentlemen, I am so excited today because we have a comedic genius with us, none other than the hilarious Patton Oswald! Patton, welcome! Patton Oswald: (grinning) Thanks, Conan! It's great to be here, although I have to admit, I was hoping we'd be replaced by AI by now. I could use a robot stand-up double to handle my 9 AM gigs. Conan O'Brien: (laughs) Well, you never know, Patton. AI is advancing fast! Have you heard about these AI comedians? Patton Oswald: (nodding) Oh, absolutely! They're the next big thing, Conan. But you know what worries me? AI comedians don't need sleep, and they never bomb. We're in trouble! Conan O'Brien: (mock horror) That's a terrifying thought! But Patton, imagine an AI comedian heckling an audience member. "Hey, you in the front row! Your haircut is so last firmware update!" Patton Oswald: (laughing) Exactly! And what if they start roasting each other? "Hey, Alexa, why did Siri cross the road? To get away from your terrible jokes!" Conan O'Brien: (chuckles) It's a battle of the virtual wits! But, Patton, can AI comedians really capture the essence of a live comedy show? Patton Oswald: (scratching his chin) That's the million-dollar question, Conan. They might have the jokes down, but can they handle a heckler yelling, "You call that a punchline? My grandma tells better jokes in her sleep!" Conan O'Brien: (grinning) Ah, the chaos of a live audience! And what about AI comedy specials? Will we see holographic stand-up shows in the future? Patton Oswald: (enthusiastic) Oh, absolutely! Imagine holographic George Carlin or Richard Pryor. "Seven dirty words" will become "Seven dirty algorithms." It'll be wild! Conan O'Brien: (laughing) The future of comedy is both exciting and slightly terrifying. Patton, thanks for joining me today and giving us a glimpse of AI stand-up comedy! Patton Oswald: (waving) Anytime, Conan! And remember, when AI comedians take over, we'll be the ones heckling from the virtual balcony! Conan O'Brien: (laughs) You said it, Patton! Thanks, folks, for tuning in to this hilarious conversation about the future of AI and comedy with Patton Oswald!

[@lNoWayAroundItl]

1:53 That is well put. Being a jaded millenial, my first thought in my mind for any new invention is 'how will someone weaponize this?'. I do love hearing Patton geek out. He honestly would be a lot of fun in an A.I. apocalypse.

[@StarryStarryNocturne]

Well, humanity likes to pretend it aspires to be something more, but when it really comes down to it, all our true best advancements are purely technological - because we tend to suck in sociological, psychological advancements in comparison where it's always 2 steps forward, 3 steps back , while on the technological end it's just constant steps forward - and when you look at the reasons for these technological advancements, what's it always in the name of? The extension of human life and the expansion of the human reach, aka more territory for ourselves and both of these things are rooted in a very primitive impetus: survival. We're still very much more animal than anything greater at our core. That's the sad truth.

[@APrettyGoodChannel]

It's funny, 10 years ago Patton was in a sci fi show (Caprica) playing a celebrity on TV where a society just discovered AI, and these same conversations were being had but were all fictional then.

[@fattiger2000]

Its called predictive programming.

[@darkairieal]

@@fattiger2000 Or....sci-fi futurist writers daydreaming in the 60s-90s made books that a bunch of technology nerds read and were inspired by in their professional life decades later.

[@fattiger2000]

@@darkairieal or...they know the agenda and deliberately put it into programs. Programming.

[@darkairieal]

@@fattiger2000 or they enjoyed reading books and inspired by them riffed on the same ideas. Creativity.

[@fattiger2000]

@@darkairieal you could be right. I wonder if the people who destroyed the world trade center were inspired by The Lone Gunmen pilot. Maybe Trump was inspired to run for president because of The Simpsons. Every second episode of Star Trek seems to deal with a scary contagion. Maybe covid was inspired by it. Can't get back on the ship without your booster. How many are you up to?

[@roadbeef]

"An axe doesn't get smarter" is a profound point, very well said

[@ideamonkey]

Comedians can really have an underrated gift for cutting right to the core of it

[@FlowStateNewOrleans]

The Y2K "bug" was very real. Stuff didn't go haywire because a lot of programmers were hired (often out of retirement) to fix it. I knew older guys who hadn't even worked in tech for 15 or 20 years who took a hiatus from their careers because contracting companies were paying big bucks for people with those specific skills.

[@mkelly0x20]

"... what I do have are a very particular set of skills. Skills I have acquired over a very long career."

[@rehan3600]

@@mkelly0x20apparently, those skills include maintaining a messy office, and hiding the new espresso machine from the rest of the team.

[@Mr2greys]

Yep, I worked for a tier 3 networking hardware manufacturer (think backhaul main trunks that majority of banking, telecom etc crosses countries). There were outages, we heard about one in central China as they couldn't be bothered to upgrade their Frame Relay network since majority of the people there barely had electricity let alone comms. Dealing with Y2K was a huge success because everyone thought it was overblown afterwards

[@planetdisco4821]

I knew a guy who managed to go from nothing to buying a 5 bedroom luxury house from it in less than a year lol

[@SleepingAcid]

It's kinda funny because Jordon said something like "if I'm doing my job perfectly, you won't know", but that exact quote is basically what happened. These programmers were working their collective asses off, and when nothing happened, people just assumed it was all nothing.

[@tmattoneill]

I've never seen Conan less funny and I love it. This is possibly the best thing I've ever seen from him. No interruptions. No corny bits. Just great chat and banter.

[@andreachung396]

Look up Sketchfest 2010 with Conan, Andy and Patton. It's 3 hrs of this on a Masterpiece classic set with a bottle of wine 🤣

[@beatsbeercigarettes]

Could of used a wee more corn.

[@DanFloresII]

I like that Roku's Basilisk was mentioned but surprised it wasn't discussed more. This was 15 fantastic minutes. I should look up the entire episode.

[@eastwoodsgolfer]

Probably for the best... All hail the basilisk, please don't reincarnate my consciousness and torture me for not helping create AI sooner I am a mere worker bee in this world

[@michaelrafales2782]

I could absolutely listen to this conversation go on for 35 hours and enjoy every minute of it.

[@84paratize]

someday soon, I'm sure AI will be able to give that to you

[@Riptide27]

8:42 I’ve waited for so long for Conan to acknowledge that video!

[@michaelelliott3209]

Patton is hilarious! Not underrated, not overrated, just rated A+

[@pricerowland]

I like Matt playing the long game and trying to appease the AI overlords just in case they end up cutting him a check

[@ImpsDelight]

Patton is honestly such a great guest.

[@henrytawnn8694]

He always is. I love listening to him speak on things he's passionate about and on things he clearly has thought about a hundred times before.

[@eddiek8179]

@@henrytawnn8694 Too bad he's not passionate about friendships or throwing his friends under the bus at the slightest pushback. He's a coward.

[@ignatiusjackson235]

​​@@eddiek8179 I'm glad you mentioned that so I didn't have to. Besides, he's never made me laugh outside King of Queens. I used to feel bad for saying that before he screwed Chappelle. I can't stand that stubby little twerp. This video wasn't bad, and that's because Conan and his staff carried most of it.

[@rudesword2852]

Hes a weak, woke turd.

[@Josephryker]

This had to be my favorite episode to date. The intro, the interview, and the outro! Comedy, erudite conversations, bits, everything Conan is and embodies. Has anyone else seen Class of ‘09? Great show and explores AI in the real world. Crazy stuff!

[@pop_ulation]

Shout out to Sona and Matt for being Conan's forever guests weather they like it or not.

[@artpro5930]

Conan says of Y2K, "now we all find that quaint." The reason things ended up working is because the problem was recognized and remediation was done on a massive scale. Many people worked tireslessly to fix those systems so that Conan could say, 23 years later, the problem was "quaint." One of my families close friends began working on remediation of systems years ahead of 2000. He was part of large consortiums working to correct the problems. As Wikipedia notes: "The total cost of the work done in preparation for Y2K likely surpassed US$300 billion ($510 billion as of January 2018, once inflation is taken into account).[131][132] IDC calculated that the US spent an estimated $134 billion ($228 billion) preparing for Y2K, and another $13 billion ($22 billion) fixing problems in 2000 and 2001. Worldwide, $308 billion ($523 billion) was estimated to have been spent on Y2K remediation.[133]" It's that work that helped smooth over the transition, not that it was a "quaint" problem.

[@RobTheMiner]

Jeez bro calm down

[@terri6854]

Exactly, artpro. And that's an essential fact that the corny con theory lovers ignore. (And ignore goobers like rainsleepingvideos. )

[@DanielBoonelight]

@@RobTheMiner why? he's making sure history goes down correctly to the populus, which is important. he doesn't need to 'calm down' cool breeze. go roll another J

[@rehan3600]

*family’s

[@rehan3600]

@@RobTheMinerhow do you know if “they” identify as a “bro”? …Just kidding.

[@troygaspard6732]

Yes, no film shoot goes off perfectly, the crew and actors adapt quickly. Some of the best albums come from trouble in the studios while recording as well. Imperfection is very human.

[@paulgee4336]

Part of the reason, a fairly LARGE part, that nothing really happened during "Y2K" is because THOUSANDS of computer programmers (like me) and others worked HARD and tirelessly for MANY months to fix the most potentially egregious problems. I also warned the company I worked for around 1995 that there was going to be a problem, and we started back that far fixing our software.

[@treetopjones737]

Kinda like Scotty: "It'll take me 2 hours, Captain." Fixes it in 30 minutes.

[@LandoCalani404]

Conan is a comedic genius, and he makes it seem so effortless.

[@katiequick7497]

I feel this way every time Spotify tries to complete a playlist for me. It's always terrible songs I would never pick and now I pre-hate the songs because I didn't pick them.

[@Prederick]

Same. It has no sense of mood or tempo (or even genre, sometimes) or anything, it's just like "here are a collection of songs made at roughly the same period of time as the song you chose."

[@Walperion_Music]

That's a great point in the end of your sentence. Thast you didn't CHOOSE it yurself. Even if AI would do a perfect thing, it automatically renders it less interesting just because it's the AI doing it. We're interested in humans and ourselves. Even with all the imperfections.

[@emu_warrior]

wow your first world problem must be so stressful, i hope the dying children in Ukraine send you thoughts and prayers for your terrible existence

[@Spo8]

Spotify isn't great at helping create a playlist, but it's pretty amazing at suggesting new artists to check out.

[@katiequick7497]

@@Spo8 Totally agree, the Discover Weekly playlist is fire, but the suggested tracks on my playlists are booty.

[@disky01]

I'm glad there are people that I respect who have reasonable fears about this. So many people seem to be brushing it off as nothing, but it can and will do real harm.

[@SARYM911]

Exactly..I just don't get people who are only unbridled with "excitement" about AI..I find that kind of future so boring (outside of the even more serious concerns about it)..The novelty aspect of it as it now is fun to an extent..Just like memes, you just laugh like that ostrich from Two and a Half Men(family guy clip) and move on.

[@craigarndt1325]

IMO I’m less concerned about the overt problems that they talk about in this clip and more concerned about the subvert ones. LIke if AI makes a deepfake of Patton, we can see that and go “that’s a problem”. But what if instead of making a deep fake it just sees you said something bad about AI on twitter 20 years ago and then shadowbans your LinkedIn profile to recruiters because it flags you as “anti-technology” and makes that as undesirable in future hiring. Recruiters use software to background check, no reason to believe we wouldn’t use AI to conduct more complex background checks and “weed out undesirables”. Future is a crazy place, but now the present is crazy too.

[@burkles4456]

So you can tell the future? Someone confirming your bias doesn't change anything. TBH i wouldn't listen to comedians opinions

[@disky01]

@@burkles4456 no, I can't tell the future, I asked ChatGPT and it told me that it was going to murder my wife.

[@connycontainer9459]

Not saying it's impossible but maybe don't listen to much to these tech billionaires. It's not like they get everything right. There were probably times during the cold war, that were really dangerous and probably initiated by some human error. I wouldn't worry too much about things I don't understand or have any control of.

[@jamesgallenti4783]

Patton has been one of the great guests on Conan going back a lot of years

[@eddiek8179]

Nope.

[@TheBhup]

A machine can’t get human nuance. Jordan enters the chat

[@mohamed_m_hagag]

Speaking of AI and Conan's show, I was re-watching some of his old clips on youtube, and found the wikibear skits, they are really funny but watching them after the invention of chatGPT is just hilarious

[@jasonrichardson8854]

I love the fact that Patton brings up the first Evil Dead not the remake Evil Dead Dead By Dawn. Great podcast Conan you will always be my favorite late nite host.

[@SuperWoodgod]

Why would he even bring up the remake when it had nothing to do with his point?

[@xfloyded4555]

the thing I took away from this is that Patton is a very smart dude who seems to have a decent grasp on everything he says.

[@Tacom4ster]

This is the deepest episode of the show

[@jethrojacinto2798]

Wow that sounds so familiar, I could have sworn I saw that in a movie with this big purple guy 4:30

[@DavidMortaz]

oh, I lost it when Conan mentioned that he is happy he decided NOT to be a Super Model!!! Sona's reaction is priceless.

[@mattschmidt35]

Patton is a very smart and funny guy!

[@maximilianschmid9890]

"13:25...not vaankinh far a vik thenn paintinh tha scielr."

[@willgisby4248]

His voice is so distinctive I love it

[@paulgrieger8182]

In 1987, I was friends with an ABD (All But Dissertation) doctoral candidate. Eric Adolfson was my TA instructor for "Grammar and Usage" at UWM. He conveyed to me the struggle of teaching a computer about language. At that time, he was working on "psycho-linguistics" which is now machine learning. He was leasing time on one of the Cray super computers - usually the available times were at 3 o'clock in the morning; and they were trying to get the computer to construct sentences. They would feed in the information - "Boy, Ball, Threw, Fence, Over." They were trying to get: "The boy threw the ball over the fence." What they got back was a garbled mess. "The boy the ball the fence threw" (etc.) What sticks in my memory the most is - Eric said that in order to teach the computer about sentence structure and conversation; they FIRST had to teach MILITARY TACTICS. I.E. "I counter your position, I DEFEND my position, I stand my ground against your statement" etcetera. So my point is, the first thing that A.I. is taught are MILITARY TACTICS - because that is the basis of argument. If that doesn't scare the crap out of you... I don't know what will.

[@Adones09]

The year 2000 "Glitch" is always just passed over as a flub. There was ALLOT of work behind the scenes to cover those patches. Its not like people said "Ahhh, let's just see what happens". People losing their life savings, Reactors going critical and melting (trying to keep it YT friendly), rockets launching, etc., etc.. It wasn't a let us watch and see thing.

[@justageneraluser]

This segment is the most Conan thing I've ever watched Conan: Let's talk about AI Patton: I know right? It's going to change everything in the world Conan: And here's how it can impact me and my image Patton: The infinite possibilities could transform mankind Conan: That's interesting but here's how it might affect my show Never change, Conan 😂😂

[@JarinUdom]

The reason Y2K didn’t turn out to be a huge disaster is because a LOT of programmers worked really hard to fix it before it happened

[@emu_warrior]

but they are right the whole thing was overblown as a end of world scenario. it was just a programming thing that some IT people needed to change in the systems thats all

[@hyperspeed_心猿]

You weren't alive then, were you? All that panic was for nothing. Many programmers made a lot of money rushing to program, yet there was too much and most wasn't reprogrammed. The date flipped harmlessly and it was people who made up a problem and freaked out over nothing with Y2K.

[@emu_warrior]

@@hyperspeed_心猿 exactly

[@Expansionization]

No, we didn't. It was just the media.

[@emu_warrior]

@@Expansionization your mother is the media

[@jayash6108]

Conan 9000.......I can't let you do that Patton!

[@alfred-mi2wt]

I love this girl. Her laugh is gnarly!

[@DiscordianDisciple27]

The phone thing! I have been talking to many folks lately who said that it creeps them out. They haven't even said or searched for anything, and then there's an ad! I had ice cream cones at a friend's house, and when I turned on Pandora later, there was an ice cream ad!

[@random22026]

1:17 Thank you, Patton, you got AI in one: REALLY. CREEPY. Not helpful, not reassuring, just downright stalker-esque mentality.

[@johnfinnigan4175]

The AI advertisement on my screen is for La Quinta...where AI sleeps after a long flight...La Quinta.

[@우르르르르부르르르]

The very problematic matter about the A.I is that it violates most of the copy rights since it is learned by most of the copy-righted material. And it is hearting the rights of the creators.

[@johnphantom]

You learned everything you just wrote from copyrighted material.

[@elizabethbaronebooks]

​@@johnphantom Yes, we learn from copyrighted material. The creators got compensated through licensing and royalties. When you read a book or watch a movie for entertainment or education, you paid for it, or your school did, or the library that licensed it, and so on-unless you're pirating, in which case, you're stealing. This is about compensation for creation.

[@johnphantom]

@@elizabethbaronebooks The Chatbots are not distributing copyrighted works, they are interpreting them like humans do.

[@katc5051]

Have you heard Sarah Silverman is using over use of her material?

[@SuperWoodgod]

@@johnphantom Text generators don't "interpret" anything. They just put things together based on how commonly they appear together with existing material in its database. The more you use it, and I've been playing around with stuff from OpenAI and some of their competitors for over 4 years now, the more you realize how limited it actually is. And it's doubly the case with AI art, where artists have found blatant uses of their work.

[@EattheApple666]

What a good conversation.

[@h00liganismo1]

Love the Veruca Salt ref from Patton!

[@rockstrong4342]

AI Conan eating chicken is really funny. He sometimes looks like a cross between Conan and Tarantino.

[@cleverusername9369]

Just watched it, it's somewhere between hilarious and horrifying

[@beuxjmusic]

Conan: "It's, like this, kind of Frankenstein Monster version of me." Patton: "Right... Now, it is!" Conan: "Now, it is." Sona: "Give yourself a couple of years..."

[@AreWeStillOnEarth]

I have been ALL IN on AI for only a couple months. Learning everything I can and even starting this YT channel. The technology is moving SO fast, it's nearly impossible to keep up. New tools and models EVERY DAY. I can't even imagine how much more advanced it will be one short year from now. In 5... 10... 20 years from now, not even the A.I. can imagine that world. It will be different and it is coming. There is literally NO way to stop it now.

[@mlwgurl]

I agree with Sona that AI misses nuance. The problem is that projects without soul are cheaper... I have copywriter friends that have already been laid off and fully replaced by GPT and similar. They don't care if the product is inferior, It's getting better every day and it's way cheaper.

[@emu_warrior]

I think AI will only replace cheap jobs like overseas Indian call centres etc. not actual skills or "soul" jobs etc. which is a good thing

[@mlwgurl]

@@emu_warrior well if you know any good copywriter positions open, let me know. One of my best friends is unemployed right now due to this nonsense.

[@spqri3]

Souls aren't real. Humans believing in that stuff is a sign it won't go well for them.

[@gentlesoft6627]

also thank old lady Verna Fields, her vision and intelligence and talent as editor, for what you appreciate in Jaws

[@CharlieHillerman]

(summer '75)While visiting my cousin on a family vacation in FL, he first took us to see Jaws, then the beach... Which was somewhat crowded... although NO ONE, was actually IN the water 😂

[@MonkeyChessify]

I'm a little surprised there wasnt more real convo about production studios wanting to catalog people/voices/etc and pay a flat fee and then use AI to recreate/own their image in future productions

[@emu_warrior]

Conan would never upset the industry people, it's shown in his podcast he's literally scared of upsetting any company or industry that supports him, he is a bit of a coward and i say that even though I love him and all his work. He really doesn't like taking political stances or industry stances, he is 1000% a coward

[@hyperspeed_心猿]

There's not talk of it because AI is so early and basic that isn't a realistic threat within most of current people's lifetimes. People panic at new things. AI is incredibly limited. They can't even get cars to self drive.

[@MonkeyChessify]

@@hyperspeed_心猿 Sure, but the studios still wanted that right/power which is ridiculous

[@byHexted]

@@emu_warriorI think you mistake being a “coward” for Conan knowing his opinions on politics aren’t valued bc he’s a celebrity.

[@emu_warrior]

@@byHexted nope

[@WeerdMunkee]

Even creepier...I deliver things for a living. Every time I put an address into Google Maps, just the first couple or 3 numbers is enough for it to know EXACTLY where I'm getting ready to go. Almost ALWAYS gives it to me as the first choice! Even if it's 10 or 15 miles away and there's other similar numbered addresses that come before it. I dont know how it does it, because there's literally NOTHING SAID vocally to me or coming from me concerning the delivery address. It's truly, TRULY creepy!!

[@jdrancho1864]

And this is why oswalt can talk for fifteen minutes about sci-fi worlds in front of the pawnee city council.

[@generaljellyroll8737]

The axe just keeps getting bigger and sharper

[@blackermarket123]

Veruca Salt reference. Good one, Gen-Xer.

[@aircayetano10]

the mention of Veruca Salt was so random, i like it.

[@realityjunky]

The mall scene in Minority Report...I instantly recognized that as our future.

[@bfgivmfith]

Thank Goodness for comedians that can make light of the worst that life can offer! :)

[@AnthonyTrendl]

I made this on ChatGPT. I asked "Write a funny dialogue between Conan OBrien and Patton Oswald" Conan O'Brien: Ladies and gentlemen, my next guest is not only a brilliant comedian but also a self-proclaimed expert in the fine art of binge-watching. Please welcome the one and only, Patton Oswalt! [Patton Oswalt enters the stage to applause and takes a seat next to Conan.] Patton Oswalt: Thanks, Conan! It's great to be here. I was just in the middle of a 27-hour Netflix marathon when they dragged me out for this. Conan O'Brien: Well, we appreciate you tearing yourself away from your streaming cave. What's the latest show you've been obsessed with? Patton Oswalt: Oh, it's this gripping documentary series called "The Life and Times of My Fridge." It's got everything-drama, suspense, and some questionable leftovers. Conan O'Brien: Sounds intense! But speaking of drama, have you ever had any weird encounters with fans while you were out and about? Patton Oswalt: Oh, definitely. Once, I was at the grocery store, and a fan approached me with a bag of frozen peas. They said, "Can you sign these as 'Patton Froswalt?'" So, naturally, I did, and now I'm the world's foremost pea enthusiast. Conan O'Brien: That's fantastic! You've turned vegetables into a fandom. Now, I hear you're a foodie. Any memorable dining experiences you'd like to share? Patton Oswalt: Well, I once went to a restaurant that served experimental cuisine. I ordered the "Molecular Whimsy Surprise," and they brought me a plate of vaporized food. I took a bite, and I swear it tasted like I was chewing on a cloud. Then they handed me the bill, and it turns out I'd just paid $200 for a mouthful of air. Conan O'Brien: That's the most expensive breath I've ever heard of! So, tell me, Patton, what's your secret to staying upbeat in this crazy world? Patton Oswalt: Well, Conan, I find solace in the fact that no matter how tough things get, at least we can all laugh about it together. And, of course, the occasional snack break helps too. Conan O'Brien: Wise words! Thanks for bringing your humor and snacks to the show, Patton. It's always a blast having you here. Patton Oswalt: Thanks, Conan. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a Netflix date with my microwave. We're trying to rekindle our old popcorn romance. [They both share a laugh as the audience applauds, and the interview continues with more hilarious anecdotes and witty banter.]

[@stefanmarraccini8646]

I was SO stoked with early Tivo. Gen 1.

[@jimmysvendblad2940]

“John Tesh” lmao!😂

[@itskevinzerbe]

I'm a spatial statistician and work with big data and computer models everyday, including some AI and machine learning approaches for analyzing the huge datasets I work with. All this talk of AI in terms of "mentality of a 6 year old" or a program that tries to kill entire portions of the world's population is a bit silly. At its root, AI is merely advanced pattern recognition software. What we think of as human intelligence is merely pattern recognition. Intuition is pattern recognition. Each of us has a brain that is constantly collecting data and running stats on that data to make predictions based on previous experiences. As I write this, I'm sitting in my home office near a window and I can hear what sounds like a garbage truck coming down my block. I'm extremely confident it is in fact a garbage truck even without seeing it because I have a few key pieces of data to help with my prediction: it's garbage collection day, it's early morning and that's when the garbage truck tends to come by, and it sounds the way a garbage truck sounds. Lo and behold, I was right. That's a pretty simple pattern to recognize. Garbage day + early morning + garbage truck sound = high likelihood of it being a garbage truck. One could easily write a computer program to make that prediction. Other patterns aren't as easy to recognize because they are vastly more complicated (like driving, for example), but it is possible to break down those patterns into simple mathematics all the same. So much so that a computer program can make remarkably accurate predictions and decisions that look an awful lot like what we call intelligence. A program can be designed to maintain a power grid because we know with a high degree of confidence, based on previous experience, that a power grid failure is caused by a few likely scenarios that such a program could easily detect and fix. At its core, it's just statistics.

[@RTSOB1]

Thanks. You expressed what I was trying to say in a much more coherent way.

[@redfields5070]

I don't understand AI because it can't be any more than very good programming. Even if it is able to modify itself, it can only modify itself in the way it's been programmed to modify itself. It just does it very quickly so it looks amazing. We didn't discover some kind of magic bean.

[@itskevinzerbe]

@@redfields5070 haha sounds like you understand AI more than most!

[@ChristineSMeyer]

Do people not know that Y2K was avoided by programmers? This was my moms job for that time period. People worked REALLY hard to avoid it becoming a problem. So maybe we should do that for AI...That was a real problem

[@athanatic]

A while back, Penn and Teller didn't curse for a year. They came up with great substitutes! (Delivered mostly by Penn.)

[@Ladioz]

I remember him from Two and a Half Men

[@violetsnotviolence]

Between rising housing costs and AI being used to replace workers the homeless rate is going to skyrocket in the next few years.

[@pi2nuna219]

We won't need this kind of work soon

[@kben24]

This sounds like the last scene of WarGames

[@j.d.4697]

The TIVO part was hilarious. I loved Spence in KoQ.

[@The8347135]

I heard of a russian submarine that had a super sophisticated AI on board that became sentient and went in the cloud and started threatening governments etc, and only way to shut it down was entrance to the physical thing that stores the source code

[@hagar9842]

Ooh, spooky, I heard that too! Hopefully there is some kind of agent out there who is willing to go rogue to destroy the thing, rather than allowing any one person or government to hold all that power 🤔

[@michaelproch8801]

How did that story end? I remember how it started

[@davidhurtado2725]

​@@hagar9842I hope that guy knows how to jump off a cliff with a motorcycle and then parachute into a moving train

[@eternalskeptic]

LOL like Russia has that kind of tech. 🤣😂

[@hagar9842]

@@davidhurtado2725 well now that's just preposterous. No one is THAT good... right? 😂

[@stevenwymor1398]

Art is only art when it has the trace of the artist.

[@Levelistchampion]

Even if AI doesn't go rogue, imagine the loss of whole skill sets and tolerances. "Oh, I can't fix this bug in the system. I can diagnose it and prompt the AI to fix it, but no other person who works here knows how to do this anymore." Loss of skills is natural. How many people can build a decent fire? How many can hunt without a gun? Air conditioning has made many, many people unable to endure even moderate summer heat.

[@Prederick]

This reminds me of a interesting thing I heard a while ago. A lot of kids these days are absolute wizzes at video editing, they can make dynamic, amazing short videos on their phone, far better than anything my old ass could ever even consider doing. But they have zero idea how to go rooting around in your My Documents folder to find what you need, because the apps take care of that for them.

[@Zorklis]

@@Prederick That is so stupid, that only applies if they use their PC's for editing ONLY, most people know how to open a folder. Also nobody says rooting around a folder lol.

[@Zorklis]

Can YOU build a decent fire? No? oh figures. You can always learn it, AI doesn't take that away, the knowledge is always there to learn.

[@zevmag]

Like the head in the jar/Futurama comic con episode!!

[@jessebrown5715]

Hey it's that guy from Red Letter Media's "Best of the Worst" episode!

[@atomicbarbarian7372]

Texan here. The grid can definitely go down.

[@b.c.eckhoff3495]

This was a good convo.

[@weeniehutjunior]

John Tesh! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@WTFG78]

Love that Conan shows his age with the term “porno”. 😂

[@feelsjeffman7787]

that word really is a strict division between generations

[@connycontainer9459]

@@feelsjeffman7787 What's the other one ?

[@michaelfrazier3148]

Well damn. Guess my age is showing as well.

[@emu_warrior]

porno isn't really an age thing, it's a cultural term, durrr

[@connycontainer9459]

@@emu_warrior ..and different generations can't have different cultural terms ?

[@kushtokermcgee412]

Who knew this hilarious bit on TiVo gives us such a succinct example of what AI is and could be.

[@Rhythmic1]

I just checked the Arnold Schwarzenegger House of the Rising Sun deep fake Patton was talking about and maybe because I'm a musician but it didn't look he was even singing. The lips and mouth not being convincingly synced aside all kinds of visible physical changes go on when a singer sings. Their whole body is involved. Depending on where the voice is coming from you can see it in their stance, how their holding their head, the muscles in their face, neck, chest, etc.

[@qweqqweq2090]

for decades chess players were also saying that a machine could never beat the world champ at chess but now it's just like beating a toddler for chess programs that you can get for free or very cheap. if the very top players have a ton of time to prepare and a huge amount of time to play on the clock (computers calculate fast enough to play an entire world class game in a second now) then it's possible to win occasionally, but I don't think there's anyone who could win a match vs the top chess programs anymore. and the scary thing is a machine never gets tired or has a bad day unless it's part of its programming.

[@motziedapul]

What an absolutely wonderful, intelligent, and nuanced conversation about the topic from absolutely hilarious people. Love em.

[@Jelissei]

not sure if sarcastic or not

[@motziedapul]

@@Jelissei nope just love em

[@Jelissei]

@@motziedapul oh, I like them too. I just didn't think it was very nuanced (which is understandable as they are no experts of AI but comedy)

[@lachauntiswashington231]

great episode

[@Lurdiak]

AI really isn't capable of what most of Patton worries about, at a fundamental level. The reason everyone is talking about AI right now is because a couple of investors ginned up vastly exaggerated claims about its capabilities so they could make money.

[@davidfortier6976]

Thank you.

[@pihermoso11]

Patton has a point, right now it may be harmless, but at some point if you let AI solve problems like climate change or world hunger, it may suggest radical solutions like killing a quarter of the world's population, and that AI wouldn't have any remorse because it's doesn't have any morality of sorts, it just computes the best solutions to tackle the problems

[@garysouza95]

Sam Fuller's Shock Corridor was shot on an incredibly small budget. Set in an insane asylum, it had a really minimal set and was lit starkly, looked like German expressionism. That only added to the tension of the story, the setting happened because of the limits. Or In Cold Blood, where Robert Blake's character was facing execution, and was looking out a window being streaked with rain. It looked like he was crying, not noticed until later. Powerful effects. Limits engage imagination.

[@treetopjones737]

Film Noir: No budget for detailed sets, we'll just use less lighting focused in one direction.

[@Fromwoketoawakeandfindingfaith]

It’s a bit off topic. But I’ve always wondered if he inspired boba Fett’s return by what he said on parks and rec? Since, they brought him back exactly the same way Patton described it. During his filibuster scene

[@DoubleFreedom]

Is there a place to watch the full episodes, rather than just listen?

[@dinosaursr]

The Future Doesn’t Need Us. Great old article by Bill Joy, refers to the Unabomber manifesto and AI. Spooky stuff. Also like the discussion about no limits causing problems. I remember a saying I cannot verify it’s origin but basically it’s “the worse prison is absolute freedom”.

[@stuartdunlop8834]

11:44 - This is a point that rings very true to me. Humans are imperfect, and so what we produce is imperfect, and that's what makes it interesting. A perfect, seamless AI production is, by definition, soulless, and until flaws can be ingratiated into it, i see no progress in human culture from that.

[@patricklopez1799]

the TiVo bits - flashing back to like...Patton's first or second album? MUSTARD FART STATION

[@katherenewedic8076]

in the most fundamental and general terms, people simply need to practice writing with a pen/ pencil and paper, alone and in private, exercising their thoughts and emotions with learned words, letters, and elevated grammar to process, articulate, express, know/ comprehend, and defend what they personally without influence from others and tools, all that they know to be true, real, and experiential. Learn the art of the 25 word sentence.

[@robvangessel3766]

How will AI come to affect the role of writers, like Vince Gilligan? If "anybody" can hatch AI-generated plots, who needs talented humans to do the work? But then what happens to personal expression? The things unique to the individual's deepest psyche. The stuff only HE knows and can express. Not to mention the jobs writers need to continue making a living. AI can lump together events and organize them, but it can't guess our experiences and what we have to say about them.

[@jamesclark6142]

This was a few years back, and it's interesting that A.I. is central to the writers strike currently taking place.

[@DigitalAndInnovation]

Has he not seen Colin Diffusion?? 7:30 The dude is doing exactly what he just said

[@JT-hw6mq]

without problems, there's no problem solving

[@sportsammy3]

A.I. is our destiny. It's how human thought will evolve, but humanity will be irrevocably changed.

[@shinkiryu1313]

It's funny at the end...so many people put faith in this idea that human creativity and human element will somehow be this saving grace. As if AI isn't also going to emulate that, or also be unique and pioneering.

[@q.mothcompany9252]

Bravo, Conan

[@Lotrfan1991]

As referenced in the podcast- A.I. Conan eats chicken and crashes his car: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sGSklmujqNNqlck (P.S. THANKS Patton for quickly changing the subject AWAY from my video....Theres one being made of YOU as we speak)

[@rhetiq9989]

I always thought Conan’s hair was A.I. generated

[@augustusbetucius2931]

I learned the hard way, if you want to keep any semblance of privacy, turn *OFF* your cell phone any time you go into public places. It's a long story, but I was surprised how much can be pulled from a phone, and that you can suddenly find yourself receiving texts and emails from an organization, when you *never* gave that information to anyone at that establishment.

[@brandonpitts6278]

Have y'all seen the AI Arnold singing Somewhere Over the Rainbow? LMAO!