Paul Fiddes - Is God All Knowing?

[@sergkapitan2578]

Brilliant thinker!!! One of the best we have still today among us:)

[@tedlemoine5587]

As a scientist, if our goal is to get "closer to the truth" Can we start by asking if there is a God without assuming so? Or can we ask if there is a God why does this or that happen which is inconsistent with what we're supposed to believe?

[@like-icecream]

Where science cannot be further explored what's left? Logic. It's logical that something cannot come into existence on its own and before spacetime there had to have been something. So something infinite has to exist in this non spacetime dimension or whatever it is. Just remember there was no spacetime before spacetime yet something created it.

[@sergkapitan2578]

We do exactly that, and that is why from time to time we update our serious theology:)))

[@FishHeadSalad]

I love this series, but one thing I do not understand is this... Wouldn't it be more accurate to ask each theist/theologian interviewed... "The god you have chosen to believe in" as opposed to the very open and ambiguous, "God"? In this case, would not asking the question... "Is the god you have chosen to believe in" all knowing? ...Be a little more accurate as to the premise of the question?

[@sergkapitan2578]

It"s not that different, because almost everybody implies exactly that:)

[@RickDelmonico]

Truth as a static structure vs a dynamic system. To simplify, think of a stack of copy paper with one word on each page. Inside of time, we see each page one at a time, outside of time all of the words, on all of the pages combine to make a single word. This single word is truth, it is the entire story, told in an instant of time. The fractal version of this story has another feature. As each page is presented to us, our intent creates a slightly new meaning that branches out, changing the story, an effect that turns the stack into a tree like structure. Special note; the law is static, but grace, mercy, and redemption are dynamic.

[@ahmedp800]

Good discussion. very interesting.

[@silphy2677]

Do you know Wittgenstein's phrase? Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

[@jqerty]

And how does he know that?

[@kahlread5537]

If reality is a fractal, then when you know the underlying pattern or algorithm it works to, you can know everything... easily.

[@sonnydey]

People still surprise me. They believe that what they think up must of be a fact and put limits on everything because people are so limited in so many ways. God is all knowing and knows every detail of the past, present and future. There is free will but God knows everything that will be chosen by the people in great detail ahead of time.

[@sergkapitan2578]

Why are your so sure??? It does not correspondent with all things we know today about our world! If you are serious, find Clark Pinnock "Most moved mover"! Brilliant explanation of the subject!

[@HebaruSan]

Does God collapse wave functions when he observes them?

[@sonnydey]

Wave function never collapses, but all the possibilities are realized in many parallel time-line multiverse.

[@HebaruSan]

sonnydey Does God split into those split universes as we do?

[@billingscronicsupply]

thats what i was going to say. But Id also like to note that, this guy, does not seem to look like...he would know what that would means. but he can describe in great detail a collapsing wave function. drawing on these correlations is science. albeit, a work in progess.

[@BradHolkesvig]

God and His voice are the artificial intelligence source built into the simulation program we're involved in. God is used to take stored thoughts ( information in stored in waveform ) and build make-believe worlds for the characters to enjoy. So yes, the programmed thoughts are then collapsing the wave functions so each character can observe them with their created sense of sight which detects the frequencies ( invisible light waves ) and other waves necessary to form bigger lit up objects. We characters with a created consciousness and built in sensory detectors are nothing but thoughts converted into waveform that when the program is played out, we experience make-believe worlds that look real to us. However, we can only observe objects in two dimensions so we need to observe motion in order to learn we're living in a 3 D world. The motion comes from the flickering of those very tiny waves that physicists call particles and the collapsing of those waves for us to see big moving objects. This way, it appears we are walking around objects or we see objects passing by. It's almost the same experience we get while playing video games today that are very realistic to how we experience images with our sense of sight. Then their are frequencies that are detected with our other senses to hear sound, smell, taste, touch and even feel emotions. Nothing we experience is real but they sure do look real within this program we're in.

[@paulwillisorg]

It does collapse and create consciousness. See the only complete theory of consciousness. Penrose, Hameroff OrchOR. Explains why paramecium of zero neurons but still have memory. Also very possible that quantum waves have some built in Platonic values like good, joy, love

[@Thudden]

There is no mention of the trinitiarian nature of God that would explain it all. Father = Superdeterminism, The Son = God in dynamic Space -Time, and Holy Spirit connecting the duality through love.

[@at1with0]

God is all being. Being transcends knowing.

[@charlesbrightman4237]

"IF" "God" even actually exists AND "God" knows the future, THEN if "God" intervenes even in a very small way in the past (as supposedly God did as stated in many religious documents), or in the present, then due to the "butterfly effect", that interaction of "God" could have widespread eternal ramifications. Those actions of "God" could in essence affect our freewill choices that are available to us in the past, today, and in our future. So, how could "God" hold us accountable for our actions and choices when "God" probably had something to do with what choices were even available to us at any one time? And "IF" "God" intervenes with humans, then why not intervene with all humans? "IF" "God" can speak to some humans directly, then why can't "God" speak to all humans directly? "God" would supposedly know exactly when they would exist, where they would exist, what language they would speak, etc. So, why doesn't "God" speak to me directly? Why doesn't "God" intervene directly with me while I still consciously exist in this life, especially since I have asked "God" to do so. Ask and you are supposed to receive. I have asked, why haven't I received? "God" even supposedly knew I was going to ask before I even asked and yet "God" doesn't respond. OR, is humans view of "God" wrong?

[@RickDelmonico]

The holomovement and process; the undivided whole is differentiated by perception, this creates a disturbance in the field. The disturbance is information but it is different, new or novel because of imprecise perception and intention. Perceptions are always a best guess or controlled hallucination. From this information, intention is formed in the form of an echo from a previous intent but again this is an approximation to some degree of resolution. Expression and experience move together in and out of these nested hierarchies, creating new or novel information. The geometry involved is a novelty or imagination engine. The universe is a pencil standing on it's tip and if time does not flow the pencil will remain like this forever. This is the highest energy state for the pencil. When the pencil falls, it picks a direction randomly however, what is the relationship of one direction over another, the relationships only begin as the pencil starts falling. The movement could be called the holomovement of David Bohm, and when the pencil has completely stopped moving, the universe has entered a heat death. Quantum uncertainty is always creating novel relationships to some degree of resolution. This is the dance of expression/experience. Self referential noise is the fiddler. Truth is precise associations without fluctuation, but everything is fluctuating and so, we only see truth values. The degree of precision is important in that it gives us the applicability of any truth value. Everything that comes into your five senses is an approximation of reality and its applicability is a measure of it's truth value. Applicability is a material expression of process. Success can be thought of as the applicability of value in state space and opportunity as a probability wave moving in the right direction. The evaporation of black holes "Hawking radiation" reminds me of a random walk in state space. The explanatory power of math isn't always precise because of applicability. If it doesn't apply, it isn't true.

[@roxinouchet]

From what evidence does those claims come from ? How does he know ? By reading a ancient book of human lore ?

[@jimliu2560]

Old age will destroy any love. Your lover's body and mind can deteriorate so much that it's not the same person but just a pile of waste.

[@kcwong8715]

Questions such as 'Is GOD all knowing?' and "What is Divine providence?' are raised to show that there are no logically consistent answers to them. As we live in a specific logical physical environment, we have assume that everything must have a logical answer or explanation. However this is not true. As an example, the explanation of double slit experiment requires a imaginary probability which cannot be logically explained. The imaginary probability is not physical. Hence, it is likely that there are non-physical realms in which there are operations not worked according to the logic of our physical world. Is it impossible that all my free choices are exactly the same as those planned by GOD? The almighty GOD can work it out although I cannot.

[@smartrecords4881]

That is incorrect mr. God is all knowing even the future.

[@amirkb7206]

Evolution of excuses. I'd say god is a perfect square circle

[@mycount64]

given i cannot subscribe to the first cause it is all a bit fanciful and meaningless .... more technically mumbo jumbo

[@benjamink2398]

This guy commits the modal fallacy. Look up the modal fallacy and the problem of foreknowledge versus predetermination evaporates.

[@Trolando]

These guys are trying to make sense out of something that doesn't make sense.

[@bradmodd7856]

Yes, this is an old tradition, we would not get anywhere without doing this. It stems from the belief that it can be made sense of in the future.

[@brigham2250]

This interview answers the question: What does it sound like when you pull stuff out of your ass. Sorry, but that's how I feel. What this guy did is create the type of god that he wants to believe in.