The motive will be down to money. Maori looking for another payout. I suggest that this claim, is fully investigated. If it turns out to be a money grab. Then all the signatures, need to be removed from any seat of power. Including parliament.
@StGammon77 Жыл бұрын
Yeh it's dangerous to apologise to indigenous people they will milk it for all it's worth and it will be another 50 years of historical claims it's like a fkn dictatorship that no-one knows how to quell now it's become a giant just like it did post Treaty the rebels rose up and so hence the NZ wars to get rid of them, the Chiefs warned against this rebellion and now it's grown into a Kauri tree that cannot be cut down.
@kungfutzu3779 Жыл бұрын
this chap is awesome. best interview i've heard on the platform
@Ricky-nq7lu Жыл бұрын
That was an eye opener.
@ChrisBrown-or8ky Жыл бұрын
Paul Moons book the path to the treaty of waitangi should be compulsory reading for all kiwis
@metanoian965 Жыл бұрын
does he say anything about the Jesuits ? Who in the 1800 worked tirelessly throughout the New World. Ordering their pan socialist idealisms on disinterested native country folk. Herr H found their form of military discipline perfect for the GroBdeutschland hive mind.
@davidanscombe1106 Жыл бұрын
Wow,people who look at history as a factual record of the past. History is the truth, fact that doesn't change. This is nothing to be embarrassed or protective of. Too much of our nz history is covered up,or not discussed in fear of becoming a trigger for the woke mob or iwi eagerly waiting to be offended
@sueedwards9334 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thank you Paul Moon and thanks to ML for interviewing him. as you say, the idea of demanding an apology for something that was supposedly said in Italy 500 years ago is absurd, but I think they know that the Catholic Church is now completely woke, and they stand a good chance of getting that ‘apology’. What their real motive is will then become apparent.
@kj1483 Жыл бұрын
Paul Moon ONZM is a New Zealand historian and a professor at the Auckland University of Technology. He is a writer of New Zealand history and biography, specialising in Māori history, the Treaty of Waitangi and the early period of Crown rule
@anushkacindyshadiack1105 Жыл бұрын
Where was the Human Rights Commission during the COVID madness?
@sueedwards9334 Жыл бұрын
Promoting the propaganda of the government.
@Anonymous-c4p Жыл бұрын
🦗🎵🦗🎵🦗🎵
@granthardy5844 Жыл бұрын
Paul......is brilliant...
@garycody1929 Жыл бұрын
Great piece Michael
@jjbraddock2702 Жыл бұрын
Motive most likely money and power.
@davidanscombe1106 Жыл бұрын
Great interview, interesting and informative
@kj14836 ай бұрын
Paul Moon is also author of recent article: Five myths and misconceptions that confuse the Treaty of Waitangi debate 1. The Treaty or Te Tiriti? 2. The Treaty is not a contract 3. Relationships evolve over time 4. Questions of motive 5. Myths of a ‘real’ Treaty and 4th article
@adsdft585 Жыл бұрын
What if a Moari tribe has been wronged by another tribe what is the solution?
@kungfutzu3779 Жыл бұрын
after the treaty it was law courts
@Anonymous-c4p Жыл бұрын
before the treaty it was bloodshed!
@metanoian965 Жыл бұрын
winner eats all
@geofflewis8599 Жыл бұрын
..The limited scope of the new school history curriculum is intended to create guilt and grievance...and that's about the size of the fight in the dog..
@HTDSNZ Жыл бұрын
limited scope = limited minds
@Anonymous-c4p Жыл бұрын
...oy vey rrurrubs hands👏🏻
@trevor6483 Жыл бұрын
Great chat, thank you
@graemelee5701 Жыл бұрын
Laws that are repugnant to common law that has already been sworn by the actual English Crown should never be signed into law. For a constitution to be valid for the people of New Zealand must be firstly accepted by the majority of the citizens of New Zealand. Historical fairy tales may be good for those that choose to deceive, however fraud destroys all that it touches. Only the English Crown who created the laws can change them. Statutory law never exceeds common law. Good luck or good management NZ you are all going to need every bit you can get your hands on😊
@chrispaul4599 Жыл бұрын
Pember Reeves said that Montefiore was waiting for his tons of Flax after Te Rauparapraha came back from the Sth Island. Hughes in "The Fatal Shore" said that nothing happened in New South Wales without Montefiore's Nod. But Hongi Hoka managed to Procure 300 Muskets in Sydney, to set up an Imbalance of Power Dialectic within Maori. Typical of how the British East India Company and City of London have Historically Orchestrated Profitable Wars. Is this the Third Rail that "Our Crowd" insists no one may discuss.
@DW_Kiwi Жыл бұрын
The Doctrine of Discovery is a Catholic Pope edict. The agreement with Maori (the Treaty) was wholly Anglican and secular. However, the recent (since 1975) reinterpretation and subsequent implementation of the Treaty of Waitangi is getting progressively more dangerous to our well being as a country. This new "doctrine" separates us into two groups of peoples, Maori and all others (159 others). The long history of the democratic view of One person and to one vote is/has been removed!! We are now living in a racist/apatite country. Where Maori are the favored ones. The pendulum is swinging the other way
@fossilmatic Жыл бұрын
“We think this happened, therefore it happened”. Look to the rewrite of the NZ History curriculum and the idea of “historical narratives” and “local relevance” in teaching our children, and get ready for more of this nonsense.Of course, the lily-white (pun fully intended) attitude to your victimised justification for “redress” falls at one term: Moriori.
@jeffreychatfield7881 Жыл бұрын
Hay that's ok if the the human rights commission wants to ask the Roman Catholic Church for an apology why not, and also wile there on there crusade praise and and thank the the Church of England for starting the discussion and then subsequent end of savory, the good thing and bad things that come from the best of intentions aren't we just a bunch of sinners?
@Anonymous-c4p Жыл бұрын
...end of slavery 🤣 And no, we are not all sinners ✌🏼😇💛
@adsdft585 Жыл бұрын
I am sure Bishop Pomaliar didn’t do what they suggested. They assisted people and were well respected by maori.
@gregg7617 Жыл бұрын
So is Urarera Sterling's book , He new all the whakapapa of all the Tribes !😛
@Anonymous-c4p Жыл бұрын
WHO ?
@robflange6 ай бұрын
One obvious point of contention Pope is head of the Roman Catholic Church British monarchy hasn't been Roman Catholic since Henry 8th And the reformation in 1527 So the Pope's edict doesn't apply to British Empire as the removed the Pope as head of the church over 200 years before Cook mapped NZ and landed So a Roman Catholic Papal edict is null and void as a line of grievance
@claudelle.M Жыл бұрын
😂
@wellygirlb6885 Жыл бұрын
Paul Moon is talking out of his arse. He's made loads of money by writing racially driven rhetoric that underminded Māori and marginalised them even further.
@MatthewDawsonNZ Жыл бұрын
Care to give examples? It's easy to just say what's wrong his words, but difficult to back up your critique with context and your qualification/experience to speak on the matter
@wellygirlb6885 Жыл бұрын
@@MatthewDawsonNZ oh shut up Dawson and stop being a princess over my words/my opinion. What is my evidence and qualifications? Stop the laziness, research Paul Moon - the title of his books alone is indicative of his low par assertions of Māori, and get back to me. Also stop being a little sook.
@StGammon77 Жыл бұрын
Maori been calling English whinging poms for decades but maybe the whinging bug has jumped onto them now blah blah nek minit the Maori will be saying they created the Universe hahahahahaha
@wellygirlb6885 Жыл бұрын
@@StGammon77 stay off the pipe mate, you'll make better sense.
@JWaititiАй бұрын
It's impossible to undermine Maori, we do it to ourselves. It's also impossible to marginalize a group that is the only group ever considered for everything from medical funding to housing.