Winter Wild Camping in SNOW & ICE (in comfort)

[@graemeo3440]

Anyone else get weirdly happy when they see a trangia being used. Love those things.

[@jonbassett8023]

Nah...I prefer the MSR pocket rocket2 deluxe w/igniter. New version fits in the TOAKS 750ml with small fuel canister & sea to summit mug fer a topper!

[@camouflage962]

nuthen can beat a Trangia

[@Jonno-Bass]

Yeah I've had my Trangia since the 80's. Never used anything else.

[@quantok]

A joy to see a Trangia stove after watching dozens of wild camping videos featuring Jetboils and clones. Mine is still going strong after 30+ years.

[@gymbobjoe1091]

I've got one of the OG jet boils that has lasted almost 15 years. Minus a clock starter it's absolutely perfect.

[@markw1915]

@quantok Same, had mine since the early 90's, have the gas adapter for it too.. damn good bit of reliable kit, works every time in all weather's so far, harder to start in the deepest of winter, but if you warm the meths 1st by having the bottle next to your body it's much much easier 👍

[@tobywinyard1106]

Jetboil for heating water. Trangia for proper cooking. Not used my jet boil for 5 years plus now. If you want to cook on a jet boil all the extra gear you bring is heavier and bulkier by far than a Trangia and WAY more expensive.

[@jonbassett8023]

Mine is the MSR Pocket Rocket2 w.igniter. Still carry the SOLO torch as Paul uses!

[@camouflage962]

same with me.... second to none - mine was globally in action.... w/o any issues, but always packed well when traveling by air

[@thegreatestoffools]

Hello from Finland! Top tip with your water during winter camping, just put a string around it and hang it around your neck, inside your jacket. With a spare water bottle put it in a woolly sock. If there's a lot of snow you can bury them in the snow too.

[@victordevonshire807]

Ain't it great sleeping outside when you're all warm and snug with your two wollen hats on and to feel the cool on your face. Magic.👍

[@andyc3088]

With gloves it's best to wear a thin inter gloves under your main gloves. So when you take off your main gloves it will allow you to do things without your hands getting cold

[@The5150owl]

17:24 to 17:33 I spit out my coffee! Thanks for a good Sunday morning laugh. Greetings from Dallas,Tx USA.

[@jonbassett8023]

This Messner guy is fantastic!!

[@danielsingh9415]

For ur cappuccinos sachet, to avoid lumps, add a lil bit of hot water to moisten the powder first, stir to make a slurry/paste b4 adding the rest. I use this method to combat the hydrophobic nature of cinnamon, (and cocoa powder) and to combine the coconut oil with the other ingredients b4 adding the rest of the hot water. It's something about breaking the surface tension and making a colloidal suspension or something like that 👍😝🤙

[@grahamhaines9931]

Good tips for using the trangia. My top tip back is to take a silicone spatula with you. It saves scraping the non-stick pans with a metal utensil. Thanks for sharing.

[@SteveSeadog]

Definitely amongst the best winter camping vids I've seen. Really helpful for anyone taking their first steps into relatively cold-condition wild camping.

[@neovo903]

Those night sky photos you can see Orion's Nebula with the naked eye

[@theworldofdante7506]

9 CUPS SNOW = 1 CUP WATER, Cheers, Dante

[@matty741]

While I haven't done this sort of thing on my own outside of the army, I have always loved being out in the colder weather. I was in Estonia a in 2017-18 and did a cold weather course, ran by royal marines and the coldest it got was -32. The warmest I got was in the survival shelter. Nice long fire but no sleeping bag. It was brutal weather but what an experience. Definitely going to get in the peaks very soon.

[@bigglestheflyboy]

Excellent vid Paul. I like the way you've paired up with Andy as well, and I think that this is the best way to go, as in this sort of extreme wild camping, having a companion means that you can keep an eye on each other. A very important safety aspect that could save a life if things went Pear shaped.

[@gymbobjoe1091]

Extreme? It's just a bit cold.??

[@andrewwhitehead2002]

​@@gymbobjoe1091Kinder and Bleaklow moors can be very unforgiving places where the weather off the Atlantic can change in an hour. It's not the cold temperatures; it's the strength of the wind and the amount of rainfall...

[@gymbobjoe1091]

@@andrewwhitehead2002 but that really wasn't extreme.

[@andrewwhitehead2002]

@gymbobjoe1091 You are right, it wasn't in the least bit extreme. I just think that more generally it is better to travel on the higher exposed pennines with other people. Probably not as important now with mobile phones but...

[@gymbobjoe1091]

@@andrewwhitehead2002 I was referring to the comment from bigglestheflyboy

[@vidibites]

That view makes it all worthwhile in the cold 😊

[@michaelcapeless3268]

Hey, there's my tent! Terra Nova Voyager! -- Yes! I've used it for years in cold summer weather and in winter snow. I love that tent. I've spent many a chilly night in that tent. Glad to see you're using it, Paul.

[@darylstafford8366]

I don't camp, maybe one day, but I somehow really enjoy your videos, it's something different to my norm, love it.

[@EricWilliamson00]

Tip for keeping coffee warm in that S2S mug.... it sits quite well inside the the 650 ml Lixada once you finished boiling the water. You can pop the lid on it as well when not drinking- creates a double wall. If i showed a pic, it would make more sense.

[@shaunjones5172]

Its great that you kept at it and you didn’t give up. Your video’s are educational and very beneficial to a lot of people 👊

[@samimurtomaki5534]

You are supposed to "spill" a little alcohol on the outer ring of the trangia burner and light that up for preheating. That is if it lights up in the first place anyways.

[@jimmyjohnstone5878]

A few winters ago I had a winter sea kayak trip at this time of year up a sea loch on the Scottish West coast. Apart from having freezing fingers whilst pitching and taking down my tent, it was a brilliant experience. Minus 8 overnight. I had a Rab down bag and Exped Down mat, plus a foam mat. I also had an Alpkit bivvy bag. All inside an old but good Wild Country tent. The kit is what makes the winter camping trips fun rather than torture. I have loads of camping kit to cover Summer trips, depending on weather and how much faff I want each day when packing and unpacking the kayak. In winter, I find it easier to think of what I need as the basics of best bag and mats for insulation never change, and winter is the only time I don't take my Trangia gas stove. I revert to the Method version as even though it takes a while, it always goes. I have a second stove with fuel gel just in case. Learning what works for each individual is vital. Everyone has their own thermal comfort level but the main bits of kit which work are soon found out with a few nights out. Your meal sounded great. I like canned big veg soups as starter. Weight of cans doesn't matter much in the kayak, and the taste is much better. Main course is anything of the add water type. To keep my feet warm in the tent I have down slippers too, plus battery hand/feet warmers. That's only due to the kayak boots not keeping feet warm so I need to warm them up once into my evening clothes...from drysuit and thermals. I don't hill walk and camp. I agree that space is important on long winter nights. It's good to stretch out and have gear laid out.

[@AlexGifford-Awesomeist]

I really enjoy your videos Paul and this one was superb. Much needed relief for this Englishman living in Australia!

[@PaulMessner]

Thank you for this. I really appreciate it. Best wishes. Paul.

[@JB-nt4jd]

Hi Paul, tip for the coffee - don't pour all the water at once, pour a little bit then stir and then the rest - it will make it creamy and no lumps :) great vid

[@markatchison9974]

Best wildcamping video I've seen in quite a while (from anyone). Really engaging & informative.

[@stuartbennion]

You are a joy to watch, thank you for sharing your experiences

[@ericjarvie]

To keep the hot drinks hot you really need an Thermos mug..I have an variety of brands of these which I even use at work as conditions are not much better than an rough winter camp at times...The one I use for camping is super slim lightweight and with an tight-fitting vacuum sealed lid it really does work and when closed it can be tossed around the tent without even the slightest risk of leakage or spill..I recommend these thermos mugs but just be really sure to get an good name brand then your guarunteed the drinks will stay piping hot for literally hours...

[@Funkteon]

If I were a multimillionaire, I'd sponsor Paul to take his skills to the Arctic Circle in the far north of Sweden in January. I had a grand time there at the beginning of 2022. Hiking 90km through the thick snow and across frozen lakes over 5 days was brilliant...

[@camouflage962]

excellent video... thx for posting and efforts to create such stunning footage, Paul

[@irishfergal]

Your most beautiful video with the help of Mother Nature. And all the comforts of home. Camping in the snow is a lot less horrible than people think. I went with a group up to Yosemite National Park here in California two years ago, and I don't remember ever being cold. There was about 18" of snow on the ground, so we had a bit of work to clear the snow for the tents. The stars at night were the main event. I'll sound like Sir Patrick Moore in a moment.

[@TonyHobbs]

You could also carefully keep fuel in sleeping bag I use plastic bottles makes it light and easy Nice dinner BTW

[@edwoodsnowden]

Wow that sunset and sunrise are absolutely stunning! What an amazing location Paul!

[@autoscanremaps]

Was there a few years ago, also went over to pay respects at B29 crash site on Bleaklow Head. Amazing sunrise btw !!

[@alexg20111]

Great video Paul. Glad you used the Trangia too, one of my favourite stoves!

[@fawthro]

Great video, entertaining and informative. I bought a wild country voyager in the days before Terra Nova, it was a fantastic tent that I had to retire after several decades of use, i may be a hilleberg fan these days, but i miss its simplicity and overall sleakness only achieved with an inner first tent. It was a brilliant tent to escape weather, or midges. An easy tent to cook in. And easily pitched in 5 mins.

[@danielkutcher5704]

For alcohol stove users: carrying your fuel in a recycled plastic spirits container (peppermint schnapps, in my case) against your body, underneath your insulation, guarantees a quick light-up, rapid bloom, and efficient water heating as well. Carrying your preheated water, and using a hot water bottle at night will save time and fuel as well as helping warm you in the process. For booties, I have found the ones without a built-in foam sole keep my feet warmest. My Feathered Friends (USA) booties have a separate waterproof shell with a tough, insulated sole of coated, slip-resistant heavy-duty fabric.

[@jonbassett8023]

Havin' a Michelob Ultra light...me favorite. Along with a small nip o' 100 proofe Yukpn Jack...))

[@markmccusker2845]

One of my favourite videos of yours, thanks so much for sharing. Have a fantastic Christmas with Mrs. Messner, family and friends.

[@Glossopwildcamp]

That was superb Paul, loved every minute of this video. The beauty of the Peaks in winter snow is unparalleled!

[@MrDINGER1979]

Nuts I love camping but it's deffo seasonal for me.Nice warm sunny day

[@Tacosmix]

Great landscape, thanks for sharing your experience here!

[@kddevitt]

Really impressed you used the trangia, probably my best piece of kit. Great vid

[@poppysherlock3922]

Nice of Halleys Comet to make an appearance at. 0.43. Wasn't expecting him for a while.

[@drsquirrel00]

One of them dragongels for preheating the trangia might work well, no need for second stove, if its not used its still sealed. A good mini backup too.

[@andrewforrest8938]

Thanks Paul for a great winter snow camp, your meal stew and dumplings looks marvellous and delicious , thanks Paul for sharing hope you and your family have a great Christmas and happy new year !

[@inspdreddhead]

Thanks, really enjoy your content Paul. Genuine and honest.

[@PaulMessner]

Thank you for this. I really appreciate it. Best wishes. Paul.

[@Dibble.officer]

Now it definitely doesn't get any better than that and with The Beavers as well. Great mates great times. Thanks to you both.

[@victordevonshire807]

Sorry I have ocd. Love this site. Boiled eggs and porridge and a cup you can get that keeps your liquids hot. That will you through. 👍great stuff. I hope I meet yer on my travels? 🤠

[@alangauld6079]

It's been decades since I last deliberately camped in sub-zero conditions. It's not the actual camping that's the problem it's the weight of the carry! Nowadays I stay in bothies. Not as warm but much more room and no fears about a storm sneaking in. Re the water bottle, on one of my winter camps I had an aluminium Sigg bottle crack open with the cold, since then I've always kept them inside the inner and wrapped inside a sock. Gas bottles (and batteries) come with me inside the sleeping bag (and wrapped in the other sock!). My coldest camp was new-year 1980/81(?) at -27C, 6 of us in the Lairig Ghru at Corrour Bothy.

[@acidburn149]

Paul i giggled when you said "its really cold -4" -25c feels like -31c and dropping its crispy out there!!!

[@krist3829]

another class video , myself and my brother in law camped up at kinder scout on the 11th first wild camp and quite the experience , like yourself the views where something else havent seen skies like that apart from parts of Wales and the sunrise was equally stunning , now ive got a -3 below camp out the way feeling much more confident to get more wild camps under my belt, i wouldnt of built up the confidence or the idea to go without your videos so much appreciated

[@mastercarpenterltd]

I camped on kinder on the 11th. Was it you guys I shouted over to over to from my tent as you walked up in the dark?

[@krist3829]

@@mastercarpenterltd we set up tents around 15:30 ish we where out of the tents with head torches on around 3 am taking in the views , our camp location was around the kinder low trig point

[@tobiasbourne9073]

As it was your first camp how did you deal with the cold? Like how did you counter that?

[@suitedaces1989]

Ah great timing, merry Christmas Mr and Mrs Messner

[@TheAngieStoned]

You're such a sweetheart Paul, and I love coming along for your little adventures. It looks particularly spectacular today!

[@marksergison5058]

Merry Christmas, Paul, to you and your family 🎄. What is the chair/attachment thing that you're using in this video? It looks like a game-changer for comfort sitting inside a tent. Love your videos. Your presentation style is excellent 👍

[@chrishamilton2527]

Thanks for the parking update. I’ve got an original pre-heater for my Trangia which is great (I use my Trangia with a Firebox Nano as a holder). Before I bought the pre-heater I used to use a tea-candle to do the job.

[@charlesperry1051]

Here in the US, in east Tennessee, we can't cook in tents because of black bears. They will tear a tent to bits if there are food smells inside. There were two black bear sightings in downtown Knoxville TN last week! There are many times I wish I could cook in my tent but it is not worth the risk.

[@CragScrambler]

Did you know your trangia burner has a built in preheater? There is a little trough around the outside of the burner which you pour in a little fuel and set it alight, this preheats the rest of the fuel and auto ignites the fuel when it's up to temp, it also warms the jets holes too.

[@sweebeyh4327]

Great video. I really enjoy watching whilst tucked up in bed in the warm. Merry Christmas!

[@gerharold264]

Simply stunning stuff Paul. Well done sir. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to you & yours from all your followers in Ireland.

[@markexpose6108]

HELLO. EXCELLENT. CAMPING.

[@tooyoungtobeold8756]

Great video thank you - now that is what I call true dedication to camping. I couldn't find the raffle for the stove or where you parked your car.

[@hemmingsadventures]

Great video, looks like you had the gastronomic edge, but glad it was comfortable.

[@Justanotherwolf77]

Hi Paul Greeting from Sheff 10. Like the addition of the maps etc of where you camped really good and nice video too and much appreciated 😀👍

[@steveb1972]

Tiny pump! Best bit of kit ever!

[@Bladee99]

When it comes to winter I tend to over pack for more warmth just in case being cold out there is worse then having a heavier load to carry

[@WiltshireMan]

Hi Paul Great to chat to you this morning on the phone. Audio sounded marvellous, could even hear Andy Beavers drone:) Good idea on the Trangia cold weaather lighting tip, bloomed very fast in those cold temps. Thanks for the advice regarding cameras. Take care mate Sandy

[@PaulMessner]

No problem Sandy. Glad to help. I think you’ll love the gopro.

[@Phil.Oakley]

Checked the coordinates and realised I used to live manor Park in Old Glossop. Never realised this was so close and never really appreciated the surroundings back then. Dad's still up there so at least I've got a parking spot sorted! Good shout with the ski pants, just never dawned on me as alternative to down pants. When I saw the metal spoon on the HA trangia though 😬

[@robd99]

Great watch Paul - as always. Love the Voyager. Mine is about 20 years old (no kidding). Last year I had to recondition it having forgotten I'd put it away damp a few months earlier. Although not quite cosmetically, functionally as good as the day I bought it (over in UK - an ex display - probably about 250GBP). Still my Go -To tent for anything other than super lightweight backpacking. Keep up the good work.

[@AlanJames]

Great video Paul, you've reminded me of how much I enjoy those winter camp nights, so I may have to set out on one soon.

[@stephengardner9128]

A great camp looks like you had a blast maybe a chilly one. Happy days.

[@philtebble4390]

Fantastic video Paul right up my street 👏

[@spotsandstripes2]

Thanks paul! Just got the trangia 25ul cookset.. used a clone and a pot stand for years but hadn’t seen the cookset, can’t wait to try it out ..

[@ferrino73]

I used some “hot hands” charcoal warmers when I did some winter camping. One by my feet and one in middle of sleeping bag. -2 and I was too hot 😂

[@StripeyHatGuy]

Very nice video Paul! You could definitely tell that it was a cold night when the water freeze's in the tent 😅. ATB Stripey

[@simonmartin5284]

Loved the vid . Needed to escape for my sanity. This worked. Thanks bro. 😎👌.love to family. X.

[@steveb1972]

Yep a classic tent. Such a big vestibule for a small tent 👍🏼

[@susanhartmann9786]

Another wonderful video, so beautiful, thank you,hope you feel better soon xx

[@frwb3351]

what a nice camp spot you've had... great orange sky 🥰💯

[@lawrencejack5038]

Stunning red sky mate, it was -12.5°C at my house last week up here in Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@bobbybouchey4122]

Good video, would be nice if you could explain what sleeping bag etc you use for beginners like myself.

[@legionnair23]

I have found the Nescafé with sugar and creamer mixed with a Starbucks pack is the best for me

[@MySatora]

Great video Paul. I've read that bio ethanol only gives off trace carbon dioxide and water vapour and no monoxide at all. Combined with the Trangia Storm, it should be safe to use in the tent. Just don't kick it over!

[@tonyshortland8812]

Hi Paul. Good vidi blog. Glad to see the inner man seems better now. Best wishes..

[@lukedrive2869]

Hi Paul. Great video and what a view. Thanks for all your videos this year. Merry Christmas and a happy new year to you and your family. Regards Luke.

[@loripage5477]

Really nice video, thank you for sharing. Those views were amazing. I hope you are looking after yourself though. That cough sounded nasty. Keep warm!!

[@nidfest]

I love winter camping, it's my favourite. Great work, lovely video. Many thanks for sharing your trip. Take care, wishing you a happy Christmas and New Year.

[@NicholasPaulFranks]

Greta vid, Paul. Thanks mate. I know what you mean by “last chance before Christmas”. I’ve been unwell with a chest infection for three weeks and obviously rest is important but mental health requires training while less than 💯

[@GSIOutdoorsLLC]

Nice Video!😎 The Infinity Backpacker Mug would be great to keep your coffee hot for longer!

[@darrenwaring609]

Nice video, Paul. As usual, out in any weather. That’s why you get the numbers 👍🏻

[@MrSlim92400]

Magnifique vidéo merci Paul pour le partage Bonjour de France 🇫🇷 🙏

[@karlbratby4349]

EPIC!... twinnies, same tent same boots, same mug same bowl, and also porridge for breakfast... Voyager is a great tnet but i find the poles can be a faff to get through the long and small channles and cant obviously pull them when get stuck and with scrunched up sleeve fabric if the poles do separate guarantee that fabric seats in the gap made with a loose tent pole joint. Porch is versatile to a degree but not really enough space for a back pack but then again in those temps would want all the gear possible in the tent out of elements as best as possible... havent seen you use this tent that much though Paul!? has it fallen out of favor in your collection?

[@Scottgoesoutdoors]

This has to be the coldest video I have ever watched 😂. But brilliant.

[@neemancallender9092]

Basic mistake to cook with an open pan All the steam goes into the tent and freezes Use a closed kettle that contains the moisture And all cooking is done with a pot with a lid With the Trangia use the kettle And cook with the inner pan and use the outer pan as a lid

[@peesua]

I've just bought one of those Trangia cooksets. Best kit for the money I've purchased so far.

[@twiglet2214]

Great video Paul.I keep getting angry with my stove and someone suggested i may need to go on a Trangia management course ?

[@dennispaine1624]

Paul, very enjoyable video! Thanks for sharing my friend!

[@Tom-wd5bs]

Hope you have a great Christmas Paul ! thankyou for the great videos

[@thisismylaine]

Great video. Looked so cold. Don’t think I would ever get out of the sleeping bag. Maybe for tea!

[@TurnFullCircle]

Awesome vid…enjoyed it from start to finish…..cant wait till next week as I am off work….after watching i am itching so bad to get out on a few hikes…cheers

[@jamesmcguinness9053]

Well done Paul. Brave man out for winter camp especially when you’re feeling under the weather

[@anthonykuhn7644]

Thanks for a great video. A very comfortsble 20c here in Cape Town South Africa.

[@deanoboland]

Outstanding video Paul well impressed 👍👍👍