Camping When it's Freezing Cold 🥶: Gear Changes to Keep Warm. My Winter Camp Setup

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[@PaulMessner]

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[@Schnafflepuss]

Lewis out there doing it for himself, no channel or social plug. Free living right there

[@davidalderson7761]

The value of a 2 person tent for a single occupant is totally priceless. I did 2 months in summer in one and now switched back to a one person for a week on Hadrians wall, OMG what a failure, could hardly move in the damn thing.

[@dmytrochan7402]

Recently spent the night in freezing conditions after a hard day. The equipment was warm, but the tired body did not produce heat. Chemical heaters saved me. I highly recommend it. I used them for the first time.

[@garethwigglesworth8187]

I feel this winter is going to be a real cold icy one. The type where you go to lift your wheelie bin lid and it sticks so you have to really man handel it to open it

[@Lewis-l4z]

Me this morning

[@Letmecook550]

You just have to give it a wigglesworth

[@alanredversangel]

What you just said beats "winter is coming" any day.

[@garethwigglesworth8187]

😂​@@alanredversangel

[@davidalderson7761]

Hadn’t thought of using a wheelie bin to go camping. Solid bit of kit though in a storm you’re going to be well snug. Especially if you’re vertically challenged anyway. Good Shout.

[@DavidBromage-g6m]

Hi Paul, nice to cross paths with you while we were getting water. Thanks for the tip on where to camp. It was certainly a chilly one but a fab sunset.

[@ryancollins7250]

Have been watching for nearly a year now. Last week I did my first solo trip up kinder scout in very similar conditions. Cant wait to get out again. Thanks for giving me the nudge to just get out there and do it for myself

[@SoloSarahBX]

Proper good simply wild camping video Paul 🙏🏻✨ta mate

[@andybrockbank3027]

Don't go out for a P. Carry a P Bottle and make sure you keep it separate from your drinking water.

[@nevetsre7001]

I camped out in my back garden in -2 just to try out my gear. It was cold and I kept waking. I've got a down bag since then and a better mat. Even my dog has her own bag now, although she does like to snuggle up to master; that's dogs I suppose.

[@tequeena]

That was a lovely spot and some good sun shows too. It is getting chilly now, I'm glad you had your warm stuff 👍

[@TrevorH-l6f]

Greetings from North Borneo 😊 That looked like a cold 🥶 night, but I loved how the warm winter gear was presented. Made me feel warmer in my aircon room 😅Thanks Paul for sharing about the gear 👍 Looking forward to some more winter camps 👍

[@Tim_Bucktu]

What's it like in North Borneo and what led you to being there?

[@TrevorH-l6f]

Paradise...and my wife 😅

[@Tim_Bucktu]

@@TrevorH-l6f cheers Trev, nice one 😁👍

[@Trapster99]

Really amazing places to camp I see in the UK. Imagine what The Druids did up there on that hill.....

[@barryfullick7981]

An old fasioned hot water bottle works fine , not the lightest piece of kit, but can keep you warm all night if wrapped in a spare jumper or tee shirt. And the warm sleep it gives is well worth those extra ounces. If you have wind pants, wear them over whatever else you are wearing as they add another layer of warm air around your lower half which helps to keep your feet warm. Wind shirt , same. Two lightweight sythetic sleeping bags, synthetic because Britwinter is reliably wet and tents are not always as weather resistant as we would like, one to sleep in and the other draped loosely over like a quilt. This allows freedom of movement while maintaining warmth. Lastly ,long woolen socks wooly mitts and balaclava, and the chances of a good nights sleep are pretty good.

[@barbn1211]

Well done. I could feel the cold! ✌️🇨🇦

[@suewheeler5795]

Cracking vlog. And love the fact that you show the Unna in all its glory - especially the vestibule! 😉🤣

[@samhill3496]

Got the Hilleberg Hilton ready to rumble. Great sunset. Pic quality is looking great. Nice balance. I have a Staika. It was my first Hilleberg. Little taller but still a strong roomy place. Better get you a face mask. Running bald faced will get you chapped up fast. A warm extra set of down footies, loose wool socks down puffy and a really good loose wool cap. wool undies top bottom. You can run out and back without freezing to death when the bottle gets full. Sunset and rize were epic. Like it never happened before . All good from east KY USA Next time

[@azclaimjumper]

I much prefer a 450mm titanium cup/lid that I wrapped in reflect ix to form its own Koozie. Keems my coffee HOT HOT.

[@sonyablack290]

From someone that used the Thermarest pad for a few years I found it a bit uncomfortable for side sleeping, I upgraded to Nemo tensor extreme at 8.5 R value the design makes it more comfortable than the Thermarest I find and it's very warm.

[@tubulzr]

Now that's some hiking mate, a pork pie chef. Those looked delicious. Complementary to the surroundings, remarkable eroded stones there, beautiful. A bit otherworldly. (If you ever want to heat some pie in a pan, bring extra alu foil, 2 layers, just slightly bigger than the pan. Crumble the 1st layer of alu foil just a bit, so you get a waffle effect, so the pie doesn't touch the pan directly. Cover the pan with 2nd foil sheet for heat retention; voila.) Trying to gear up for my first ever true winter (preferably snowy) hike. Got the right tent and 80-90% gear but need the extra bits and bobs, micro-spikestrail crampons, snow stakes, 5-10C. liner for my 3-season -4C. bag, an extra 1.7R foldable foam mattress to get at 5R, an extra pair of merino base layers, extra wind and waterproof mittens. Haven't got the money for a new winter mattress+winter sleeping bag+true winter down jacket. An extra lambswool sweater and a fleece will have to do.

[@ShoxDr]

Hand warmers in your boots, warms them up. Put in at night they can dry them out as well

[@scotbotvideos]

Cracking sunrise. Sets you up for the day.

[@cookiemonster2299]

Paul you gotta try the Helikon Level 2 thermal underwear trousers and top, get a size bigger than normal, you won't regret it and heat holder socks for sleeping in. 👍❤️🇬🇧

[@rotovelo_naut]

yep! another "epic" video... keep 'em coming 👍😉

[@SmithandWesson22A]

I have screenshot some of your scenery for my computer wallpaper.

[@paulpeopleperson3594]

My tip would be have a plan for the hours of darkness before sleep time. I made the mistake of eating too early falling asleep at 9 waking up at 4

[@Beamish32]

I do that at home. Getting old I guess 😂

[@paulpeopleperson3594]

@@Beamish32 😁

[@jamessmith1652]

I had assumed most campers pee in a bottle and empty it later!

[@sukiline]

You gents have a great taste in tents. Awesome view. And yea... a pee bottle is an absolute must (Hydrapak Stash bottle 1L works wonder. 😊)

[@jason4555]

Try the Light Tour R7.5. Im well impressed. Really comfy and warm too! Great value sleeping mat. Thanks J

[@Beamish32]

It's all very well wearing your fancy Messner gear and Messner bag but we can't buy them any more 🤣. Glad you're still enjoying yourself and getting out there pal

[@wraithofsolidarity]

That geology is pretty epic

[@hw5789]

The tache suits you well, Paul. Cheers, Hal

[@TwoFourCharlie007]

Love your videos Paul,I feel so chilled out watching them, I don’t hike but travel around Europe on my motorcycle, your gear reviews are ace, one question I do have, Asa biker I need a compact warm sleeping bag, what would you recommend? I’m looking mid range and not the mummy style if possible… thank you, keep up the great work

[@deanhambry5208]

Throw a couple hand warmers in the sleeping bag before you get in…..works a treat. Also (a tip from your you tube mate Steve) the empty dehydrated meal bag makes for a good pee bag…….it works

[@chrissmith6650]

I can't wait for it to snow 🌨️. I'll load up and head for Snowdonia. I'd like some photos of the mountains covered in the white stuff

[@terence7752]

Mon/ tue 65mph, 25mm of rain, plummeting temperatures, -5. Ideal for hard-core campers!

[@juneduffy4502]

@@terence7752eek! That sounds tough - I’ll have to watch vicariously rather than do that - I’m a snowflake when it comes to cold and hot 🫣 good luck ❄️❄️🌨️🗻🗻🗻🏔️🏂🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶😊🏕️

[@angelicoluigi3735]

I’ve noticed that many hikers and campers on KZbin these days focus too much on their gear rather than sharing the actual experience of camping, hiking, or traveling to different places. Most of their content involves short walks, setting up tents, and sipping coffee while explaining the items they purchased-almost like advertisers promoting products for their content. While that can be interesting, it would also be great to hear more about their personal experiences during the trek, challenges, things to avoid, any background stories about the places they visit, the routes they took, and how it all made them feel.

[@dunnylad2106]

banged some timber on lately Paul and it's not even xmas time....

[@emiliemorin4735]

Always good videos!!!

[@jdcmusicchoice]

Waiting on Lewis' photos. Looks like a good setup to catch that sunset. (Also, just outside Peterborough)

[@howardpotts5763]

Cheers Paul , great camp and we were very lucky with the weather 🌦️

[@Logsandlandscapes]

Howard is your tent the allak 3 mate 👍🏻

[@PaulMessner]

Thanks for joining me mate. Really nice camp.

[@tonyubr]

Lovely video as usual thank you mate. What is the table you use please?

[@jntd4160]

❤from Michigan!🤟Your "doorbell" bit made my day!👏👏👏

[@johnjamesoutdoors]

does anyone know what little table that is please? thanks

[@jasonsolly1112]

It's a soto field hopper ,good little table

[@Campingkayakride]

Yep soto. Fantastic little table . Robust and very easy to use

[@hoellenhund1000]

I am looking for insulated camp trousers myself. Would you mind to share what's your model? Recommended?

[@msf-.-]

How are you getting on with the new Buffalo Fell jackets Paul? Considering buying one

[@TheDigitalFlight]

Was wondering what boots/shoes you wore on your camp?

[@TheGreatCharlie123]

Cool.

[@Currockcarclub]

Does any one use stove for warmth while cooking? Or use stove in same area for heat? If the porch ventilated enough for cooking? Good enough for heat?

[@2785Luke]

Perfect, sat in the van having lunch and watching KZbin 😊

[@davidwilliams7369]

Question paul do you always wear days clothing in sleeping bag, I was always told to change to other clothing?.

[@stevenmoody7806]

Hi Paul Which route up did you take please

[@steve-r-collier]

hello Paul,i did my first overnight camp last night and temperature got down to minus 9c in the peak district but i made the mistake of taking a 5ft insulation mat..im 6ft 2" and my feet were like blocks of ice despite two pairs of thick socks..would a full size mat have helped alot? do you wear those down booties?

[@colincottell4981]

Hi Paul, would be great to know if/when you’ll you be reviewing the new Durston X-Dome? Ultra light and under £300, but is it right for UK conditions.? Would be great to get your thoughts.

[@peterrobertson8141]

I asked Dan Durston about that on another channel. He says he will be bringing out a solid inner for the X-Dome in the Spring (to suit UK conditions)! 😊

[@chrishamilton2527]

@@peterrobertson8141my thoughts are that it’s a three season tent.

[@cherryrotella3714]

Those hand warmers, another camper I watch puts em in his sleeping bag at the bottom and they keep feet warm all night

[@davidalderson7761]

Drinking from streams. Ask anyone in Africa who has seen there kids die from dehydration due to dirty water and maybe they have lost 2 or 3 children from dirty water. Picking up a bug from water that’s not treated can mean nothing at all to you ever, some slight raging squirts or severe dehydration. Luckily we have a NHs for the severe end of the problem. Never having a problem in the past doesn’t mean you won’t in the future. Minimum should be boiled probably filtered maybe UV too as a must and avoid rivers in any populated areas or industrial locations.

[@cookiemonster2299]

Yup I use the 'drink safe system' water bottles, they're superb. 👍

[@anniejones1839]

Im a lightweight, cant sleep if cccold. I cant imagine getting up early morning. Thankyou

[@jameshallen007]

Just look at that Geo engineered sky!!!!

[@robmartin4927]

Hi Paul if you or anyone else still use the katadyn befree filter bottle how do you disinfectant it for storage. Katadyn told me to use their micropure forte tablets but i don't use them and they aren't cheap, or a few drops of household bleach but i can only find thick bleach and don't know if thats suitable. What does anyone else use ? Grateful for any advice on this. Thanks.

[@AndyWardle]

Use Milton sterilising fluid. Wash thoroughly then keep it stored in the fridge. I do this. 4 years still going strong.

[@robmartin4927]

@AndyWardle hi thanks for reply. Do you do this as katadyn suggest with their micropure i.e. squeeze a little through the filter then leave it soaking an hour and then wash thoroughly before storing in fridge. Thanks. Rob.

[@AndyWardle]

@ I fill it. Squeeze it out. (Backwash) Fill it again. Let it stand about an hour. (If I’m back off a camp). Then rinse it out thoroughly and stick in my fridge.

[@PaulMessner]

Like Andy…I use Milton.

[@robmartin4927]

@@AndyWardle ok sounds good. I have chlorine dioxide tablets and asked if i could use them, katadyn said only to use micropure forte or bleach but i suppose they would want you to use their product. I just wasn't sure what to use and didn't want to damage filter for obvious reasons. Up to now I've just been putting water through it every few days since I've finished using it to keep it fresh. Thank again for advice. Rob.

[@iwalker3809]

Leave your red hat on, put the blue hat over the top.

[@kennethvalerio1294]

Looks pretty chili

[@anonymousinternetuser7519]

This is where I admit I am far from hardcore...I'm in the woods cozy by a campfire. Fair play to you, I couldn't do it.

[@tom-n8y1u]

Doesn't matter in the slightest, you enjoy yourself 👍

[@MG-bs5mr]

Cracking weather but looks baltic 😂 I'm trying to motivate myself for a cold wild camp this month 😁 Re sleeping bag warmth and clothing: I don't know if it's widely known but the criteria for the tests on which the temperature ratings are given are ... A 4.8 R value mat. A heated mannequin wearing a hat, long sleeved top, long legged bottoms and knee high socks. Anything less will lead to an underperforming bag.

[@peterrobertson8141]

Important to note that wearing TOO MUCH clothing inside your sleeping bag may also degrade the performance of the bag!

[@MG-bs5mr]

@peterrobertson8141 so I've heard although I'm not sure I've experienced that personally 👍 I think I might have suffered the problem with my sleep system being too warm for the conditions so it makes me clammy then a wee bit chilly. Too many variables to say for sure though.

[@peterrobertson8141]

@@MG-bs5mr Yes, I agree. It obviously depends on so many variables - type of bag, comfort and extreme limit levels, type of shelter, weather conditions (including relative humidity levels), altitude and temperature, and so on. I just thought it was worth mentioning 😊

[@MG-bs5mr]

@peterrobertson8141 it's definitely worth mentioning, anything that might help someone else get a good night sleep is worth it 👍

[@PeeWee599]

Can't go wrong with a bit of pork pie, Howard isn't playing games is he, they looked banging

[@holmesaway]

Nothing like being wrapped up in a nice warm bag knowing it’s freezing outside. How was your snowdon trip?

[@PaulMessner]

Short and sweet mate. The wind and cold was brutal at the summit. We got the train up though so not all bad 😂

[@holmesaway]

cheat 😂😂

[@PaulMessner]

@ 😂 it was a gift from family for my birthday. You know me mate I would have walked 😉

[@MelanieRiley-lt2rl]

just subbed to your channel

[@alanmacmillan6957]

I tried leaving my guy lines loose on the hille - got tangled. hanked them up..... still got tangled. LMAO.

[@peterjrgensen966]

What ! Winter coat's gone ? Naked face😱

[@adv_lady_dreamer]

Paul thanks for a great one!! Lots of great inspiration!! What is that table coming from?

[@PaulMessner]

It’s made by Soto. I forget the model.

[@peterrobertson8141]

SOTO Field Hopper - I got mine from valley and peak. 😊

[@rob20452]

I have a sunny delight bottle for a wee bottle warm bottle after wards also 😂

[@Campingkayakride]

I don’t think he needs to go into an in-depth review to say what gear Paul uses. There are plenty of him doing that. I wouldn’t count the minutes of my life watching yt either. Nice to know where to buy them pork pies thou.

[@wyregrasser7540]

I wish you were my neighbor...Better yet, I was yours. Thanks for sharing. 👴

[@kawo666]

Does anyone know what are those tents? Is that Unna and Soulo? Or Staika? Thanks

[@howardpotts5763]

The smaller is the unna , the bigger one the Staika

[@idontwantahandle12345]

Hi. Another kit question. What packs were you using. Wrestling with 45l vs 55l, can’t decide…

[@kawo666]

@@howardpotts5763Thank you

[@garyh3228]

@@idontwantahandle12345if you kit fit in the 45 you can use both if it only fits in the 55 you can only use that

[@leonardmcdermott7703]

Paul a quick question regarding gas canisters. Would you suggest keeping them in your sleeping bag so they are easier to ignite in the morning? Regards Leonard.

[@MrPurplepirate77]

Hey Paul great video, have you moved off the Vivo’s to a new boot for winter?

[@PaulMessner]

These are also Vivos. Just a different model.

[@steveb1972]

Chop your beard off just before Winter???? Grow it back to keep your chin warm!!!!!!! I know it’s for Movember, but eeeeiiikkkk!

[@impossiblevoices]

There's something different... Can't quite put my finger on it... 🧔

[@JGR100]

Great vid Paul. Whatever happened to your healthy eating 😂

[@p.richter9592]

I see you are using the Hilleberg Unna. Are you using the 10mm poles with your Unna? What happened with the Rab Latok mountain tent you tested about two years ago?

[@PaulMessner]

Yes mate. 10mm poles but not sure they are really necessary. The Latok had no bug mesh and I prefer double skin. I moved that tent on for that reason

[@aaa111912]

won't be long before drones are doing delivery's up there.

[@eddyarundale1566]

👋🏼

[@markreed2937]

Why don’t you use a larger nalgene bottle to save getting out of the tent to piss Paul 😂

[@CalmingAnxiety]

You know what would keep you even warmer Paul? A really cool Beanie hat from Calming Anxiety 😅😊

[@PaulMessner]

It gets a run out in today’s video on @messnersminutes 😂. Toasty warm thanks Martin.

[@danielduesentriebjunior]

I take my sweaty clothes of and get into something warm and dry.

[@barrieangola9941]

Hi! Would I be allowed to enter the raffle if I don't live in the UK but I have friends there that I could have things shipped to?

[@PaulMessner]

current raffle has now ended. thanks for the interest

[@barrieangola9941]

@@PaulMessner just for the future, I mean. Thanks for the response!

[@nickmacdx]

Central Scotland , Ochils Hills , January 2024, -10°C with windchill on top of that ... Millets "4 Season" bag 🤣🤣🤣 + hooped bivvy ... Would have met it's limit mid July ... Absolutely brutal night that taught me hooped bivvies have no place in camping, beyond unpractical...zero admin space and woke up covered in frost , inside and out...bag and bivvy straight in the skip

[@PaulMessner]

-6 is the coldest for me plus whatever the windchill was. needed to add a few layers as well as my bag but that wasn't in a great tent. Blocking out the worst of it helps loads

[@nickmacdx]

@PaulMessner griz it out, knowing that packing up and going home would probably be the right answer...but where's the fun in that Thanks for the vids. Always enjoyable 💪

[@twiggyescapes]

Nice vid Paul, u had some cracking weather up there, those camps are the best. No wind, no clouds, no people. Hope I'm as lucky tommorow. 🏕️

[@freeforester1717]

Looks like water erosion on thar big stone behind you Paul? Any knowledge of the geological process that may have caused that? 👍🏻

[@nickkowal6537]

Fora hot water bottle just use your nalgene stuffed in a sock

[@Funkteon]

Look, man, I love your videos, however, I would really like to see one of the bigger brands you use sponsor you to take a trip outside the Lake District and other near-identical parts of the UK... I get that times are tough at the moment, but when you see guys like Harmen Hoek with only 27 videos from three years of content creation on KZbin with a quarter of a million subscribers, it becomes obvious that people want to see locational variety... Now, I don't think anybody expects you to traverse the planet like he does and set up the kind of shots he does, but Paul, please mate, get out of the UK for a couple of videos every now and then. Your skills are absolutely transferable to Sweden, for example... If a silly 40yo guy like me from Melbourne Australia can get over to Scandinavia for a camp (with winter camping gear, might I add) surely you can, too...

[@PaulMessner]

I’d love to be able to do that but finances just don’t allow it. Here It’s not like in the US where the KZbinrs are getting big sponsorship deals. Some brands will kindly donate gear from time to time but that’s it. I guess I’m not their market. My Scotland trip this year barely broke even for me and the view counts just aren’t the same now. I have some really great loyal subscribers but if the 190k showed up every video then maybe I could travel further afield. That said. I’m happy with what I do now but I agree it’s all very similar

[@markapted7937]

@@PaulMessner very happy with what you do Paul nothing flashy but always interesting and entertaining many thanks

[@Funkteon]

@@PaulMessner Well, I’m not sure how much your Scotland trip cost, but a return flight from Manchester to Kiruna, Sweden, is only £166-or £187 return from Heathrow. Landing in Kiruna gives you easy access to Muddus National Park, just south nearby Gällivare, offering a stunning and diverse landscape compared to Scotland’s beautiful but treeless expanses. It’s a fantastic opportunity for a wider variety of shots and a new environment to challenge yourself. You don’t need sponsorships from big brands to explore within Europe! And you will highly appreciate Sweden's 'Allemansrätten', which translates to "everyman's right", which gives Swedish residents and visitors the right to roam and camp almost anywhere in Sweden's nature, so long as they abide by the 'leave no trace' ethos.

[@Dore60]

👍

[@mrvanguard8467]

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[@HuckFin-w8i]

26 minutes of my life I won't get back. What exactly have you changed? Seems like you're going out for the first time wild camp. What's with the lights too, surely that'll attract attention and give other wild campers a bad name to be so damn braising. Sadly you're not tucked away and staying warm out in the open is silly imo, get to the trees, cover, wind chill. Glad you're getting out, but struggling to see what the title and thumbnail had to offer here because it seems like a lot of waffle, food and a little sunset. Sorry, but not your best video.

[@PaulMessner]

Cheers for the feedback 👍🏻

[@juliapigworthy]

@@PaulMessner Judging by the name of the commenter it was probably a bot so I wouldn't pay it any mind.. and "Cheers for the feedback" sums it up perfectly. Beautiful terrain and glorious sunset, well worth the trip up there by the look of it.

[@stevemalta1]

@@PaulMessnerthat’s you told lol😂

[@fraserconnell21]

Wow. Over 9000 views in not too long! Well done 😮😊🙏🇬🇧🫡