Don’t Make These Common PC Building Mistakes! 🚧 BUILD FIX Ep1

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thanks for the shout out Paul. Great builds! Glad to get more builders help on their lists! :)

[@paulshardware]

Thank you Jason! My favorite thing about the PC hardware KZbin community is how almost everyone I've met treats each other as collaborators rather than competitors. Appreciate all that you have contributed 🙏 keep up the great work!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

@@paulshardware 👍

[@bongodoug]

I love both of these channels!

[@samsowden]

It'd be fun to see a joint video where you each do your own takes on the same build fixes and compare.

[@OGruurd]

Okay this is super wholesome

[@zodwraith5745]

It's always important to remind people to build balanced systems. It's ridiculous how many people have wanted me to build them an X3D system because they watched the reviews, just to find out they're pairing it with a 3060 to play at 1440p. This is the unfortunate side effect of testing CPUs with a 4090, and GPUs with a 7800x3d. Those that don't know exactly what they're doing mistakenly think _they're_ going to see the same uplift when the rest of their system isn't flagship parts.

[@luzhang2982]

Then again people who get x3d and play games like Stellaris know wtf they're doing. Always get the right tool for the job, balanced or totally unhinged.

[@zodwraith5745]

@@luzhang2982 Trust me, they _didn't_ know what they were doing. Besides, if you have to cherry pick a niche game like Stellaris that kinda just makes my point that most often it's _NOT_ smart.

[@tanmaypanadi1414]

I thought modded stellaris and Factorio are pretty cpu demanding to the point where at some high level players could use the cpus. but I doubt it scales with x3d cache.

[@ronniebots9225]

its also an issue on the other side of the spectrum. People who build intel and only game and do nothing else with their system but game. They want a 4090 for 4K gaming and realy want to pair it with an i9 13900k or 14900k while at 4k it is a waist and hard to cool. A 13700k or 14700k can easely drive the 4090 at 4k without bottleneck since it only needs to supply the 4090 with 60-100 FPS data at the best. Aspecialy in high demanding graphical games where the 4090 is pegged at 100% the entire time at 4k gaming. True at 1440p or lower the 13700k or 14700k will be a bottleneck, but you dont buy an overpriced 4090 for anything other than 4k gaming IMHO

[@zodwraith5745]

@@ronniebots9225 Yeah, I always look at the reality of a build. You can use hypotheticals until you go numb, but at that other end of the spectrum anyone realistically buying a 4090 isn't concerned with saving a measly $100-150 on their CPU and they can afford proper cooling. Those people want "the best" and only an i9/R9 will do. Not to mention if you're only gaming the i9 power usage quickly turns into a non-issue. I've built 2 i7s and an i9 system and used 360 AIOs for all of them. They would only hit thermal max when artificially _forced_ there with Cinebench. I've never seen the game yet that can stress a CPU like that and the AIOs are more than sufficient for 99.99% of real world use cases. My personal system is one of those i7s and I wish I'd gone with an i9 cause I do a lot of mixed use of gaming, compiling, and compression/decompression. Once I got a taste of how helpful they can be I wish I had all those extra e cores so I'm already looking to upgrade. I gave AMD another shot on one of the systems I built a year ago for the kids' gaming setup and I've had nothing but problems with it. Cores parking and not waking up, constant USB dropouts, and horrible 1% lows in VR. 16 BIOS updates within a year is _not_ normal. Who besides a fanboy wants to put up with that? If Zen5 doesn't really wow me I'll be looking at a 15900k later this year. At the very least the new node should get it's power usage in a far better place than they are right now.

[@JacksMacintosh]

I appreciate that the responses including a "for you the poster" answer as well as a "for someone else that may be watching and have different priorities" answer

[@alynch9846]

Dude, giving PC Builder a shout out was classy Love both your channels.

[@justaadhdgamerwesley6244]

STOP BUYING BAD GPUS!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

@@justaadhdgamerwesley6244 I approve this comment :)

[@blackdemonrala]

🖤​@@PCBuilderChannel

[@Trainbuff26]

The person who submitted Build 1 definitely needs to make sure they're on the most current BIOS before upgrading to a 5800X3D. That might also solve their RAM issue

[@TigonIII]

I thought that as well, and I noticed he also wrote that he needed to update, suggesting he may never have updated the bios.

[@robertkirkpatrick1826]

IM having issues with that right now as well. i HAD the most current bios build but they released a new one that is refusing to take...sighhhh

[@Trainbuff26]

@@robertkirkpatrick1826 Make sure the BIOS you've downloaded is for your exact Motherboard, revision and all. I've seen the same model of motherboard have five or six revisions before being discontinued. Also make sure the USB drive you're loading the BIOS Update file is formatted in the FAT32 format. Finally, if you've done both of those and it's still not working, see if there's any additional BIOS updates between the most current one and yours. Once in a blue moon I've had a motherboard not want to update, but only because it was on the original BIOS and the new one was several years newer. After gradually upgrading it, it was able to install

[@pie_stains]

PCbuilder Jason is also great. Mr Bear is his boss. The more reputable channels with these types of videos the better.

[@3dchick]

Exactly. I could watch these all day. Learn something every time. And, yes, ❤ Jason and Mr Bear

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Mr. Bear told me to tell you he appreciates this comment!

[@ronaldbookman8304]

mr bear is simply the best

[@SpoonHurler]

Mr. Bear and CEO Snowflake are the best techtubers... I wasn't forced to make this comment

[@slimal1]

This is the way. Can someone get Paul a pet, please? No, not Joe 😅

[@liverpoolnrf8]

I am a total beginner at pc building and I am currently in the process of doing the initial research of all the parts I want/need. This video really helped.

[@MattJDylan]

#2 rule for beginners: DO NOT underestimate the importance of the psu. If one part is bad, you just replace it: if the psu is bad, it could fry your whole build. You don't need to overspend or going for a huge wattage: just find a brand using a good oem (most of the psus are made by some oems like SuperFlower and then rebranded by various corsair, evga etc etc) Sorry if you knew already about it, but it was a rule I didn't knew when I started and I just lucked out on a half decent psu, realizing just years after how much that could have costed me 😂 (the unit died without killing my pc in the process)

[@SmoothNoobGaming]

I love playing PCpartpicker against Paul. One of my favorite games.

[@gasracing5000]

I love playing this game against anyone. I challenge thee 😅

[@geebeewillikers7710]

These two channels will be my go-to for for my build this summer. I've learned SO much from these two. Jason has the energy, Paul has the dry sense of humor. I love both of their styles!

[@JZF629]

Don’t tell me how to spend my money! If I want to pair a 14400f to a $400 480mm AIO LCD cooler with phantom hologram fans I AM GONNA DO IT. Didn’t you know you get more FPS that way?!

[@commanderoof4578]

This a joke comment or something? Because you wont get any more FPS that way not even half an FPS as it is really hard to make any 400 or lower class intel CPU draw enough power that it down clocks a simple peerless assassin will do the job equality well

[@stevenross-watt8640]

​@@commanderoof4578the op is indeed joking.

[@acoachinlunacy9815]

​@@commanderoof4578what are you even talking about? Steve from Gamers nexus even admitted that you get on average an extra 4fps per LED

[@mattstansbeary3068]

​@@acoachinlunacy9815🤣

[@commanderoof4578]

@@acoachinlunacy9815 troll... gets jackhammer and a nailgun

[@ShimejiiGaming]

Build 1 RAM cannot generally be used at XMP with 4 Dimms at 3600. I would not be surprised if it fails. Should swap to 2x16 3600 for better results with a 5800x3d.

[@lucasrem]

AMD is hard, if you need better DDR timings, intel is the better pick, XPM profiles !

[@paulshardware]

It's a similar situation to build #3, and something that makes RAM upgrades a bit more of a pain than they need to be. Adding another identical kit won't always be stable, but the options are to do that and adjust speed/timings (which is a tough ask for newer builders) or to buy a new kit and sell the old one.

[@TigonIII]

I also noticed he said he needed to update bios to be able to use a newer cpu, so that could maybe also help with the ram issue.

[@tocotaku4787]

I am not going to lie I really enjoyed this series. Mainly because it was nice you are showing new builders how helpful and beneficial pc part picker is. I have been using it for a long time and it is always a good place to reference and source builds and supplies for pc's. I am looking forward to this series and keep up the good content.

[@aurvaroy6670]

Same here. My only gripe is that he's being sponsored to do this but hopefully that works out well for him

[@skuckon]

Extra fun points/topics on spending on cooling versus performance: Most people are aware of thermal throttling in the sense "At 95C the CPU will slow itself down". But it actually goes deeper than that - temperatures affect how much the CPU runs at boost clock speeds! So having more powerful cooling = lower temperature = running boost clocks more. And more boost = more performance, right? Well yes, but actually no. Boost clock really only matters for the thread being boosted, but your overall system can still only run the same amount of work at a time. If you had a more powerful CPU (ie more cores), then while you'd be boosting less your system would be able to do more at a time. Which also means needing to juggle active processes less, and therefore less context switching, and therefore a given process stays on the CPU longer. Plus, overall package temperature doesn't actually tell you what parts of the CPU itself are actually hot. So remember that point earlier about boosting more? That means a given core is drawing more current. Which ironically means that by running your system at a lower temperature you can actually shorten the lifespan of your cores. So if we're talking 75C vs 95C then yes, invest more in cooling. If we're talking 65C vs 75C, buy a more powerful chip.

[@FilthEffect]

Any documentation I can read to validate this, this is really useful info 👍

[@TheTankyCrowbar]

Those White 4080s are actually just over 1000 (the Zotac one is 1050) but the prices you see are from scalpers on Amazon. I've been looking at the Zotac one recently but it's hard to get them when they do manage to come back in stock. Hopefully I can snag one soon. That build is actually pretty close to what I'm building, though I'm going with an AMD CPU

[@RussLudwig]

Thanks Paul for the new series! Ive been kicking around the idea of building a new PC sometime this year & this series will be very helpful when I finally do start building

[@joeykeilholz925]

The AIO gets me every time 😂

[@Fossillarson]

I love my ryzen ll 240mm lcd screen is nice 😅 Yes my 5900x in z11 itx case hit 58* on long hot day gaming 😅

[@mjc0961]

Downgrading my CPU to an i3 with integrated graphics and my RAM to 1 stick of 8GB and my storage to the cheapest hard drive (not SSD!) so I can get a $220 AIO 😂

[@formulaic78]

I chose an AIO for my h6 flow build largely for aesthetics (I really like the LCD screen on the kraken 360 which shows CPU and GPU temps at all times). If I'd had a closed case I would have used my existing noctua air cooler. For that build the person could go for the cheaper aio below the air cooler Paul chose (thermal frost?).

[@bdamon1]

@@formulaic78 thermal frost is ugly asf, I am new to the pc world and have been researching pc for the past few days as I want to treat myself with one. I am planning a full white open build and really want to get a AIO with lcd screen for aesthetics. But it seems that if you want one with lcd that looks and performs half decently you are looking at 200 - 300 price range which costs more can my cpu. does anyone know about a decent AIO with lcd screen at a better price?

[@formulaic78]

If you want cheap you may have to accept ugly. The kraken looks great but not cheap.

[@Dudummeskind]

Love it. Thanks to Paul I’ve built more than 30 PCs in the last 5 years.

[@jaymacpherson8167]

Power supplies: I buy oversized power supplies for longevity into future builds. For instance, my light build is using a 550 W PSU I bought in 2010.

[@steveg1054]

I am thinking of a 1000+ W PS when I do my next build so I can be ready for a 5 series later.... Makes sense to me.

[@buddybleeyes]

One thing I have noticed since I've been looking for a white build- is that the white tax has got incredibly huge this last generation. Very limited parts are white now. I guess that's supply/demand though

[@salemthekit6143]

I'm shocked the SSDs in build 2 weren't mentioned at all. If budget wasn't an issue then I would've recommended getting something like corsair T500s or at least something with TLC chips because they have been reported to have better longevity. To put P3s in a high-end build like that (not that the p3 is a bad ssd at all) feels like a massive missed opportunity for both better performance and better reliability/longevity. Plus, the controller in the T500 runs cooler as well and, if the motherboard only has limited 4.0 slots, would run very cool at 3.0 speeds. Also, some RMe models from corsair have had reported coil whine issues. At that price it probably would be better to go all the way and get the RMx. I can't wait to see how this series evolves!

[@paulshardware]

That was mostly because he didn't specify which SSDs he had, I just added the P3 to fill out his drive/TB count. SSD variations like which use TLC/QLC nand, dedicated RAM cache etc are worth considering but they don't have as much of an impact on gaming performance. I'm keeping an eye on the comments though, and I'll see if I can work in some more discussion on "under the hood" SSD stuff if people are interested -- especially for a dual use system for video editing or something like that where it can have a much bigger impact on daily use. Thanks for the comment! 👍

[@salemthekit6143]

@@paulshardware gotcha, honestly a video going over SSDs would be a phenomenal resource for the community. Thanks for the awesome video!

[@Bobo-ey8fc]

@@paulshardware That was actually my fault Paul. I should have specified why I do that. I have backups that I prefer using separate drives for, which is the only reason I populate so many NVME spots on the board. I think the "under the hood" commentary would be interesting, BTW.

[@al-asadi]

Great series! I love it, thank you Paul. I'd love to see a split-screen side by side comparison of the original list and the updated list for each build so we can pause and compare. thank you!

[@Gavrev]

Nice one guys! The first PC you looked at was typically close to my own setup and the GPU was my main focus, your choice being pretty much where I was contemplating for myself, assuming I ever get to spend sizeable money on my PC again.. 😂

[@Sunray1995]

Used your recent videos on building a pc to pick my parts for my very first selfmade pc build. Ty so very much. Much love. 😃

[@fragalot]

im thinking about building a 14900k rig, but MUST I cool it with a water cooler? I don't like water coolers since they tend to fail quicker than air coolers. Aren't there some air coolers up for the job?

[@caseyshutt599]

Paul, i want to say thank you as you were one of the people who inspired me to build my pc after watching a bunch of your videos in 2020. I have upgraded it a bit over the years but againijust wanted to say thank you.

[@JohnTheMutt]

PC builder is very good at this and I'm hoping you will continue to keep this series going as well too Paul. It all helps! It's all good!

[@poeticsilence047]

Woah Joe. Nice intro. Maybe add in a hammer or screwdriver hitting the monitor to indicate fixing.

[@ducttape7516]

I watch every PC Builder build video and love them all. Thank you for adding to the space and putting your unique spin on parts list reviews. Keep them coming and I'll keep watch all your vids as well. Cheers.

[@aurvaroy6670]

Honestly, I'm really looking forward to this new series. Although you're being sponsored, you're still taking your time to review someone's parts list, which is beneficial for everyone online. I can't wait to watch future episodes from you!

[@XxZannexX]

This is such a funny video as I had a discussion with someone in your comments about unnecessary cost. Your reasoning on extremely unnecessary cost for cooling is what I was trying to get through to them. They fervently refuted my notion with spending less on cooling for more performance. As the overkill cooling would make their processor and motherboard last longer. They aren’t wrong, but that’s so unlikely an issue. You’ve shown you can balance that efficiency for better parts.

[@skuckon]

They're also blatantly wrong since what the overspending on cooling actually does is let the CPU run boost speeds more, which is what's actually more damaging since that's more at-point heat generation in a given part of the chip (even if it's less total heat dissipation). And while you could argue more boosting = more performance...you'd get more performance just from buying a more powerful chip anways.

[@fateunleashed9680]

Not sure what they were smoking. CPU coolers cool the CPU so that has nothing to do with the lifespan of the mobo, and even if you argue the board components could be affected that's up to the board to cool not the CPU cooler. I mean besides the thermalright coolers are some of the best on the market for under $40, so even if you double that to $80 for a be quiet cooler lets say and it's 2* colder under load. That 2 degrees will not help your parts last longer. The thermal max would have to be reached for sustained periods to measurably kill the lifespan of components.

[@Andrew-ky8oc8cq4n]

I am proudly partnering with pc part picker who is promoting this program....you were almost to wordly greatness!

[@3dchick]

Omg, love this series! Wish I'd seen the post last month. I just bought a new mobo for my existing 5950x and 3090.

[@sgottoboni]

Nice build, way beyond my affordability.

[@unclemikemd1]

Hi Paul, I have a build similar to the first one you went thru. R5 3600, Asus B450M-A II, Corsair Vengence LPX 32GB 3200MHz ram, MSI Mech 2X OC RX 6700 XT. Is my EVGA 600W power supply going to be enough if I swap out my CPU with a 5700x3d? PC Part Picker shows 510 watts with the 5700x3d. I appreciate any comments from Paul as it is his expertise I am looking for. Thank you.

[@zixbit96]

Currently upgrading from i5 10400f rtx 3060 ti to 7800x3d rtx 3060 ti Motherboard: Msi pro b650m-p CPU: 7800x3d CPU cooler: Deepcool ak620 zero dark (was using it for 10400f) RAM: Kingston D5 32GB 6000mhz PSU: be quiet pure power 11 600w Pc case: be quiet 500dx ssd: Kingston 2tb gen3 m.2 Monitor: Samsung odyssey g7 32 1440p 240hz So, two main questions would be: Is this cpu cooler enough for 7800x3d and which psu would be worth upgrading to? PURE POWER 12 M 850W 150 euros-ish one or should i go for a bit larger one for extra head room in the future upgrades. Something like: PURE POWER 12 M 1200W 200-ish euros so not that much difference in terms of price considering watt amount difference by comparison. P.s upgrading gpus every 2 gens don't see a need to upgrade every single gen for my use case (gaming mostly). So went from 1060 to 3060 ti the next time i should go for 5070 series card. One tier higher every time for a bit more improvement.

[@CataclysmZA]

Hey Paul! You should spend a bit of time for your viewers checking things like... Will that motherboard actually run all four SSDs at reasonable speeds? Many people make the mistake of not checking the manual to see how the slots will function depending on their planned use.

[@fateunleashed9680]

Really great new series Paul I have some pointers I'd also like to add for an PC building noobs as well! Another thing that is really really important is to never buy a part because of the brand of that part. Your goal when PC building should be to buy the the value you want for the cheapest amount of money you can. What is valuable to you is your choice, like a portable ITX LAN box for example. If trust is in question for a part, then looking up reviews on that part is always the answer. Oh, and always double check what you think you need for a performance target vs what can achieve the performance target. You don't need a 13700k, a gen4 7400MB/s drive, and a 4080S for 1080P 144hz.

[@olmynuwen]

I paired my 7800X3D with an H150i Elite LCD XT. Maybe I could have saved a few bucks with an air cooler but I like the aesthetics of the AIO and I wanted to try out liquid cooling.

[@Celis.C]

6:30 General note on (A)RGB fans: there's 3 entries of 3-packs here, meaning 9 fans in total. These are very likely intended to go up (exhaust), bottom (intake) and side/front (intake). Since they are (A)RGB fans, make sure to double check which sides the RGB is facing. If they are upside down at the intake sides, you miss out on the RGB part. Always check if there are reverse options to cover every direction and order the right versions for the right spots. In this particular case, these Thermaltake fans are supposedly swappable by "popping the fans out, reversing them, and popping them back in", according to Thermaltake.

[@Bobo-ey8fc]

I have used these fans in several builds and the swappable feature is great for experimenting with the best airflow. Instead of having to go through the trouble of reinstalling fans, you just change blades. It also insures your build doesn't have any of the ugly backsides of the fans showing. The SAW Ex fans are certainly underrated. They're expensive but worth it.

[@t.v.9696]

Thanks for the useful video, Paul! As always, stay awesome 😎

[@kesagatame]

The fact that you showed up on my Apple News feed yesterday was incredibly satisfying - hope you get some additional viewers from the exposure.

[@GD_MoonBlister]

Great job Paul and Joe! Stay well guys!!

[@nerdedkyle3515]

This was awesome idea for a video. I just recently got a gigabyte Gaming PC 3080 for 400 used and I couldn't be happier was def worried about used market but the seller had great reviews and was educated with PC hardware

[@WumpusAmungus]

Like Bobo, I wanted to go with an all-white build but ran into the same problem with the prices on white graphics cards. Not spending $500 more on a 4080 just because it is white. All-white builds are increasingly becoming more popular (PC Centric and Provoked Prawn have built quite a few), so hopefully manufacturers will start making more white components.

[@506363]

Thank you Paul! Your videos have helped me with both of my builds so far. I remember building my first one from your NewEgg days. There is plenty of room in the full size case, Thor V2, sorry I forgot. and thanks for the tip on the XMP! I already had two sets of RAM die and it was a pain to troubleshoot. I initially only bought two, I ended up getting 4 to replace them. I was definitely looking at GPUs as well, was hoping to wait out for the 50 series to see if they have more v ram for the mid tier GPUs. sadly the closest Microcenter to me is 3 hours away in a couple directions.

[@feeko2239]

I currently have a 5600X, with a 3070, 4x8GB DDR4 3600. Want to know would upgrading to a 5800X3D be better, or waiting a while and saving for a better GPU (looking at a 4070ti super) with the intention of upgrading both? Or would saving up a while longer and building a new system with AM5 and continue using the 3070 for a year or two be the better choice?

[@liaramsay9976]

ive 5800x3d, big recommend, but i admit am5 is better nowadays lifetime wise

[@commanderoof4578]

Thats simple to figure out... Are you an FPS hunter or after fidelity, if fidelity upgrade your GPU else drop your resolution as low as it goes and see what has higher capabilities your monitors refresh rate or your FPS which is now CPU bound I have a 5600X and a 3090 and have never been CPU bottlenecked to my knowledge in any-game but Star Citizen Tho saying that i play my games at 4k targeting 60FPS and will crank my settings up to unreasonably high levels if my FPS goes over 60 I want fidelity

[@BobBobson]

Pay attention to PSU prices, and don't be afraid to get a bigger one if it's cheaper. I built my girlie a new Fractal Terra rig. The 600W Be Quiet was (and still is) $14 cheaper than the 500W.

[@jaggsta]

16:08 P3 Plus is QLC no DRAM. Crucial has new 2TB T500 TLC/DRAM with Phison E25 controllers for $139.99. The Kingston KC3000 uses slower Phison E18 controller.

[@salemthekit6143]

These days DRAM isn't as important as it used to be. For specific performance tasks it can be a huge difference, but pretty much any 4.0 drive would give you all the speed you need. Plus, there's a lot of misunderstandings surrounding dram and longevity because pretty much all modern NVME drives use HMB so it's not like in SATA SSDs where not having dram would grill the chips. For NVME, DRAM is purely for speed. I do agree with the qlc/controller comment but in another comment Paul replied that he was mostly just filling out the list rather than making specific SSD choices and he might make a dedicated SSD video some day.

[@Rustydude2030]

i like the new series. I also watch @PCBuilderChannel. Jason is great! Just an idea to make it more novel and a twist on "fix" my build. Maybe from comments, person says something along the lines of: "I recently built x list and am having this issue..." offer some trouble shooting advice or leads to start with. It could be its own segment on the build fix. 2-3 builds like you just did and than 1-2 troubleshoots. I have an annoying issue where my VGA light comes on my mobo every now and then. doesn't cause any actual performance issues. haven't been able to figure out exactly what it is, but i think it happens when I turn on my power to my PC before powering on my display. or if i leave my display on by accident and power on my PC while my display is in sleep mode. the light won't turn off unless i restart. more of any annoyance than anything. stupid bright red light contrasting with my all black and green aesthetic.

[@ShermSpinner]

I like the idea, even though "fixing" a >4k$ build by just upgrading a few more things seemed a bit odd :) I do usually have one gripe with your parts recommendations: hard drives and PSUs. In this video and others before, those are parts where i feel like you often end up going for something close to the cheapest possible. considering one is responsible for all my data and the other for all my expensive hardware, i feel like those are exactly the parts where i'd rather spend a little extra on something well established rather than the cheapest possible. maybe it's just me being particular on these parts but i'd be curious regarding your reasoning here.

[@imo098765]

It does seem odd to spend more money but when you actually look at the use case. Its 90% of playing at 4K and with a high refresh rate monitor A 4090 is the best option for that price range and performance target, really the 4090 is the only good option

[@Bobo-ey8fc]

@@imo098765 My 49" 5120 x 1440 monitor is not 4K and even the 4070ti did a fantastic job driving a beautiful image. Although the 4080 Super is even nicer. There's no need for a 4090 with this setup. Frankly it's overkill. You could definitely justify it for a true 4K monitor in this class.

[@Warconstruct]

Thanks for starting this new series, Paul. Great video for those starting to build a new PC and even those that do it as a hobby like myself. This series I'm sure , will educate others, on getting more bang for the buck and not spend more money then they have to get the same performance.

[@haies09]

You have a video on what to do inside the bios after setting up a PC? Should we leave everything on optimized defaults, or set power limits and such?

[@ZenithStarlight]

Thank you for taking a look at my future build and your input!

[@SkylerB17]

Hey Paul! Got an upgrade question. Im currently on a Z370 board with an i7-9700k. however i feel its showing its limitations to me with its low thread count. I was thinking of upgrading to the 9900k. I can find used ones on ebay for about $270-$300 USD. I could recoup about half, maybe a bit less than half of that by selling my 9700k afterwards. But, if there would be a reasonable platform upgrade i could do for around that $300 mark, CPU and mobo, that would net similar performance but just be newer and have newer features, id be willing to go that route. Any thoughts on that? Thanks!

[@airman_85uk]

You could sell the motherboard CPU and RAM as a kit then get: 13th gen i7, 32 GB DDR5 and a B series board. Don't bother overclocking the CPU, put the XMP profile in BIOS and you're done.

[@richardfarmer6570]

Newegg has a Zotac Gaming 4080 Super that is $1069 and white.

[@whosef8x]

i’m trying to build my first pc and i got recommended i7 (14th gen) 4070 ti super samsung 990 1tb asus tuf 2790 pro (wifi & bt) corsair 32gb (16x2), 6000mhz i don’t want anything too crazy, im mostly playing assetto corsa, roblox, night runners and maybe some fps games. what should i change to get the best spec and price possible for what i play?

[@KonglomeratYT]

Good advice for those builds. PCBuilder is great too. Been watching you and him more recently after making a new PC.

[@Kdude216]

Question on the last build as I continue learning more. The speed of the original memory picked out was 5600 but you said to go higher (the 6000 you found was cheaper, so that’s a plus, no problem there). The intel website said that both the 13700k and 14700k processors would pair up to a 5600 speed memory. Why go higher than that in any case other than price and timings? Also, why air over aio?

[@WarHawk-]

Great video Paul which answers quite a few questions about upgrades! I'm replacing an older mid-tower INTEL desktop which was born about 9-years ago. I've chosen what I believe are the right parts for a micro-ATX AMD build designed for mid-level gaming without plans for OC'ing but I am stuck about what graphics card would be good a replacement. Any thoughts? New build: Jonsbo TK-1 Micro ATX mini-tower (White) ASUS TUFF GAMING B60M-PLUS WiFi Micro-ATX AM5 Motherboard AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5GHz 8-core CPU Corsair iCUE H100i ELITE CAPELLIX XT 65.57DFM 240mm cooler (White-RGB)) Corsair Vengeance RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5-5200 CL40 RAM (White-RBG) 2 x WD Black SN850X 1TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0X4 NVME SSD Corsair RM750 750w 80+Gold Full Modular PSU (White) EVGA GeForce GTX 1660ti (current replacement from original 980ti) - NEED RECOMMENDATION FOR NEW graphics card, please - sub 'kings ransom' in cost. Thanks in advance

[@BeeWhere]

Love this content, so many choices for people who don't build often and lots of stuff can get lost in the weeds. The only thing I always reccomended is a fully modular PSU. They can be used throughout upgrades and make building and cable managing so much nicer. And the upgrade $40 max. Unless someone is on an extreme budget, and at that point, I'd still say get a modular PSU and get used parts.

[@EragonxVxRevan]

Maybe im reading too much into this, but the one build that showed the windows 11 DVD did not include a disc drive for the PC. Are they going to install the OS separately on another PC, or are they actually going to get a flashdrive?

[@paulshardware]

They'd just be buying it for the key I think, and making a USB installer with another computer

[@CusmarTv]

Love this new series, i think lots of people have problems with what to buy if i am gonna buy or upgrade my pc

[@killer01ws6]

wow... I just put all of my current parts in the pick a part and monitor and rig are 6500.00 and sadly I paid more for some of my parts than how they are listed.. plus my water cooling parts and chiller.. this hobby can get expensive, it is cool that Paul does such a great job of showing folks affordable builds as well as mid and high end.

[@guilladogui8259]

I’m having issues to decide how big the power supply should I get for a 13700k arctic freezer 360mm ASUS z790 strix f a couple ssd 1tb and one 3.5 hhd and the asus Thunderbolt 4 card , with an asus tuf rtx 4080 super

[@XeqtrM1]

Atleast 850 but to be safe I would go 1000w but if you go to pc part picker put in your parts than they will show what PSU you should get

[@Jzwiz]

Sorta random, gonna build a new pc soon, a relatively high end one. My power is very stable but people also say get a ups anyways. Do i get an apc or cyberpower pure sinewave one? Or are there any other suggestions

[@3dchick]

Hoping he answers. Very much want to kbow, too.

[@paulshardware]

A UPS is very nice to have, but I would only consider it mandatory if your power is really patchy or unstable. If you have outages regularly, or voltage drops that results in your lights dimming and stuff, then yes I'd say go for a UPS. Cyberpower and APC make good quality units, but they usually start at $100+ because they generate their own alternating current (AC) signal. And yes, go for a pure sine wave unit as they'll produce a more stable output and should last longer too.

[@3dchick]

@@paulshardwareThank you!!! And, looks like I don't need one. We're pretty even where I am. ❤️❤️❤️

[@dakoderii4221]

@@paulshardware Power outages is going to become a common theme this year. Our government allowed this to happen and they'll blame it on the average US citizen. Like Meek Mill said, you better stayed strapped up because our government has made it so unsafe. 2024 is going to be one bumpy ride. Buckle up buttercup!

[@AvgDan]

5:09 one thing I didn't like about this build was 4 SSDs with 3 of them being 1TB. I would get more 2TB SSDs to leave room for additional SSDs in the future. Also, I was surprised they chose a black PSU.

[@tanmaypanadi1414]

PsU spray pain job 🤔

[@Bobo-ey8fc]

The black psu is buried in the rear of the case and is never seen. I know I went crazy spending on aesthetics, but since no one will see the PSU, I went with the model that fit my needs the best. Oh and as far as the ssd's. I do several individual back ups of files that I want on different drives. Which is why I went with the multiple 1tb ssds.

[@wingman-1977]

Quick question Paul. Why did you recommend the 2nd& 3rd builds to go with 64 GB of RAM? Unless they are doing some rendering, it would be a waste of money IMO.

[@ikeapedia]

For the All White 14900K build, I would also suggest they take out all of the Crucial P3 1TB plus Crucial P3 2TB and get Crucial P3 Plus 4TB + Crucial P3 1TB (if they really need 5TB total).

[@JackKramme]

Im definitely not claiming to know more than you do Paul, you clearly know your stuff but I thought because of the size of the Y70 case, you want to fill out the case with as many fans as possible to maintain decent airflow? I'm planning to a build in the Y70 touch myself and I am planning to use up all of the fan spots.

[@cobyfield9237]

I was in a bit of a analysis paralysis during my SFF build, was half-copying an existing build just so it would all fit in the case + being in Australia and wanting to get from 1 supplier to save on shipping. Definitely would've got an air cooler instead of the AIO after I found out which model actually fits lmaoo. ALTHOUGH, 0 complaints so far after a year and a half!

[@PowellCat745]

12:40 At least get a B650E for $300. $317 for a B650 is horrendous. Also why four sticks of RAM? You won’t even get 6000 stable. Also you shouldn’t cheap out on a power supply. For about $100-$120 you can get a 850W gold, fully modular, 10-year warranty power supply. The extra $40-$60 over the Bronze PSU is absolutely worth it.

[@EJSmith-dk3yg]

Regarding timings, you mention tightening or loosening what does that mean (increasing of decreasing) ?

[@napoficial7123]

I have the following , I can update 1 thing this time. Motherboard gigabyte B550m H ( or H M ) PSU Asus Thor 850w, 16gb ram, ASRock Rx 6800 XT and Ryzen 5 5600g with stock cooler. So, what should update? Thanks for the content!

[@joniqst]

Plop in a 5800x3d, you won't regret it.

[@sir_whocampsalot2876]

yeah that 5600g has to go bro

[@slimal1]

Great introduction to the space. I'll be tuning in for more. I love watching series like this. After all the benchmarks for each product category, it's good to see all this being brought together. It's great that we can have the knowledge being integrated and it's really good learning from the mistakes and questions. This is, for me, one of the best way to keep up with the current tech.

[@slimal1]

P.S.: Nice shout-out to Jason. But I fear you may be in mortal danger because you didn't acknowledge his boss... the cat.

[@johnrodgers1847]

What's the absolute best, AM4 socket Ryzen CPU one could buy. I'm currently running the 5600x.

[@captainshiner42]

5800X3D, as far as gaming performance is concerned.

[@skyvzneldaddy9218]

Thank you for this ! Enjoyed it thoroughly. 🙏

[@93eclipseguy]

Paul said dodo. 😂

[@typicalthrill]

Really like this format! Your build recommend videos are fantastic for anyone new to building or just gathering information on their next PC. Thanks!

[@ezweber_the_great]

Can't wait for more of this series!

[@chibonchibon3967]

I always buy big bulky air coolers , the only downside is that it is hard to push down the GPU socket lock. But the price, performance and maintenance is a win 🎉

[@itsKtoday]

I like to keep my cpu tdp low for less power draw and heat and I edit,stream,and play games. I got a used 5700x for 130 and the tdp is 65watts. Love the videos Paul!

[@kingcrackedhen3572]

Good to know you’ll look at upgrade/ optimise lists too

[@GarrieMcLaws]

Thanks for reminding me that AM4 has an upgrading path to the 5000 series chips. I ran into an issue that my previous CPU was paired with DDR4 RAM with CL12 memory, I thought the memory controller on the CPU might have had a problem and RMA replaced the chip. By the time the replacement chip arrived I had the money to get new RAM too and and changed it out for 64GB of 3600 CL16 memory that was on the QVL (couldn't find the old RAM on the list, but it is on the list for the previous gen CPU, I wish I had thought to check that list before RMAing the chip and could have solved the problem faster than the RMA time). To anyone else thinking of just upgrading their CPU, remember to verify your RAM will continue to work with the new faster processor by checking the QVL (qualified vendor list) for the MB and CPU to be safe.

[@MMShooter-rb3et]

Hey. Have you done a video going over a full PC setup with peripherals for those who may be coming over from PS5 or Xbox Series X consoles?

[@-INFERNUS-]

Over the span of 5yrs with my x470 board I upgraded the CPU 3x, so now I'm running a 5800X3D, 4070 Super, 32gb 3200 CL14, 1tb nvme, 2tb nvme for just games, and finally a 24" 1440p 165hz Gsync monitor I'm good for a few yrs , I think 😊

[@guillermoae7038]

Why is the 360 mm aio wrong choice? I have a 13700k with a 280 Artic liquid freezer ii and it gets to 92 C on stress test on 1 min, but my case doesn't fit a 360 aio and a youtuber said that a 280 mm would be enough for the i7 but 92 C on 1 min i'm not sure now it was enough.

[@Shrek765]

Hey Paul; Would a New 2023 AMD 5600G Asus B550-F with RX6650XT Graphics Card have issues with a 14 year old Acer H213H monitor ? ... I could be upgrading to the 5800x3d.?

[@Chum_Kiu]

I'm still about a year or two off from my next major, but this is the kind of information that I love ingesting!

[@PaulC001]

just wanted to share an issue with a motherboard the MSI Z790 tomahawk has had a driver issue from the start that never seems to have been fixed. the onboard networking does not work. if you have to have one for... reasons. buy a NIC to get around the problem.

[@chrisduff5414]

I've got the same board, the drivers from MSI don't fix the issue, but if you look up the drivers from Intel, the latest one fixes it, I've been running it for the last few months without issues

[@cobyfield9237]

Who on average puts out the better quality motherboards nowadays? I was semi-forced to get my ASUS B660-I for my ITX build at the time I did it but it's given me 0 issues and the WiFi is flawless!

[@PaulC001]

@@chrisduff5414 can you link me to the drivers you're using from there?

[@PaulC001]

@@cobyfield9237 my MSI Z790 tomahawk has wifi that worked straight out of the box. but i never saw more than about 60% of the speed i should have been getting. after adding that $15 NIC i got full speed. i went with MSI just because "big name" and lots of positive reviews for my particular board. as for the negative ones, most described the issue and the easy work-a-round.

[@oldmatttv]

Good video. A couple of requests would be a side by side comparison of the original vs your recommended build, and just overall builds that DO have restrictions rather than don't and are just worse for value overall.

[@BenJamonGaming]

I don’t know why you would recommend an air cooler for a 14900k. Especially if the guy isn’t going to mess with the factory over clocking on the mother board. I don’t think that air cooler is going to be able to cool 300 plus watts. Plus one side effect of recommending amd over the 13700k is memory. You’re not going to reliably get 6000 speeds and will have constant bios updates for memories.

[@BUDDAz1g]

Would going from 6750xt to 7800xt be worth the upgrade? Should I wait for the new cards to drop?

[@JacksMacintosh]

So cool that you're partnering with PC Part Picker!

[@ThisGuy_Jeff]

Hey Paul love the videos and i like the new series. However in the most respectful way possible i have some suggestions. 1. I know its not always possible but some basic context like what its going to be used for and budget would make imo a big impact on recommendations so maybe how the application tell you the use case for the build and budget ? 2.maybe give more than 1 choice ? like the "max performance choice vs the "hey this is way cooler" choice which would be the performance vs esthetics choices or the budget vs the flex choice 3. I would personally want to hear your reasoning behind the choices behind the part chosen you did it some some of them but for build 2 imo it did not make a lot of sense to have him keep the formula board without a 4090 and even upgrading him to a 64gb kit 4090 would have a bigger impact in most scenarios. Love the content and i hope to see more cheers

[@scotth8828]

The green screen in your graphic got me nostalgic, I had an orange screen on my first machine. I built my current machine from a build you did a LOOOOONG while back (pre-COVID by 3 years) It's now my Linux machine Do you or PC Builder ever do a Linux build?

[@roloreoandy9867]

I am going to LOVE this series Paul.

[@mattzavala9456]

Can you go into how you stabilize ram with expo a little more: what do you mean loosen the timings by a point or two per value? Thank you

[@outlet6989]

Hi Paul. To me, it's not so much what you buy, but where you buy it. I suggest potential buyers read the RMA return/refund policy before purchasing a PC component.

[@williammurdock3028]

Always up front on cost savings, that’s good. People get hung up on RGB, Gaming, and Brands at times. Good job

[@user-sw7js4jw7v]

Cool new series, Paul. Love it! Can’t wait to watch episodes as this goes along.