Paying the DMV with 7,500 Pennies

[@bskee001]

By law the DMV has to accept his form of payment because the US Coinage Act of 1965 says that coins are “legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes and dues.”

[@carlosoliveira-rc2xt]

bls001 You are dead wrong. You armchair lawyers know nothing of the law.

[@xYasago]

carlos oliveira explain. The US coinage act of 1965 states that all US coins are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues. Businesses are allowed to refuse pennies (and any form of cash payment), but he is paying for a public charge to a government agency, and they must accept it.

[@carlosoliveira-rc2xt]

Benjamin Zheng They may be legal tender but the coinage act does not force them to accept in any quantity you desire. Are you willing to accept your pay cheque entirely in pennies? After all, it is legal tender.

[@xYasago]

carlos oliveira I would accept it, then find a job that wouldn’t do that. But since he has an obligation to pay the debt they must take it regardless of form since it is legal, and if they refuse, then the debt would be cleared.

[@zukazamamee4067]

I can see paying fines & tickets with pennies as payback, especially for victimless "crimes". Make them waste time counting tons of coins for wasting our time. It is much easier for people to get up to a few hundred dollars of pennies from a bank compared to a company needing millions/billions of pennies for payroll. It isn't in an employer's best interest to use coins.

[@bobbyb6430]

Everyone should pay every ticket in pennies

[@jimmyfaustjr7373]

Bobby B yep

[@jimmyfaustjr7373]

Pay ALL bills in pennies. Rent too. ;) im dead serious. Especially if they send creditors after you.

[@gotigrz236]

why???... you owe the money... why be a jerk about paying what you owe? what will paying your regular bills (rent, power, water, etc) in pennies solve?

[@dinneratlunch]

jimmy Faust Jr I believe the coin act of 1965 only states it’s public debts likebtobthe government and not private debts like rent ( In most cases) is

[@mrbubbles5333]

gotigrz23 it would solve stupidity. But that’s something you can’t fix!

[@alexneil9116]

if the place takes money as payment then they need to get a counting machine simple.

[@Otswartz]

Throw in a few nickles and Canada pennies.

[@havok9001]

also if they lazy & say to u go back & i tell them my time is money want to wasted it for then i charge a fee that u have to pay for if not & u dont want to accept this give me in writing & i give it to my lawyer then charge may happen

[@andrewbrenneman3782]

That DMV and staff should have been reported to the feds for violation of law. Those SERVANTS should be the ones DOING THE COUNTING. They WORK FOR THE PUBLIC, NOT PUBLIC WORK FOR THEM!

[@maverick4220]

This is funny cause usually when it's all loose change they are like you need to put them in rolls, Now you have them in rolls they are like "Oh we got to open each roll" Too check.

[@michael11185]

They have to take the pennies. All you had to do was call the cops. It's a federal crime to refuse legal tender.

[@thereisnotruth-poop]

that's the funny thing. Before this i called the secret service ( who were founded to combat illegal currency), then i was directed to the US Department of Treasury, then the Mint. Turns out NO GOVERNMENT AGENCY WILL ENFORCE IT becuase all currency is owned by a prvate bank: the Federal Reserve. Prove me wrong, FUCKING PLEASE

[@fernandovriese6409]

If you think the cops will help you you’re dreaming

[@killianmmmoore]

At least he rolled it

[@timtimkthy2945]

If we keep the trend going, it’ll get to a point where no one will want to give out tickets

[@donchako3990]

Yeah like the city is going to roll over $100,000s of dollers bc of Penny's

[@JamesBrown-tx3sb]

coinage act of 1965 makes all coins legal for all bills public and private

[@juniorjpk75]

Actually there is.... Its called the US Treasury.... Their policy is not an excuse to skirt the law... If they take cash, then that is cash. Tell them to f*%k their policy. They cannot deny legal tender as payment if they are accepting cash. Stand your ground man!

[@Ward00]

You called to see if you could pay in pennies, but did you also see if those pennies could be in rolled pennies?

[@tellurye]

​@Jay Jay Nope, wrong again. I encourage you to visit the US Dept of Treasury website and read for yourself. And Please note the Private or Organization CAN be the State itself. So yes, the DMV, court house, city, etc, CAN refuse. Most do not, but there are some who do limit the format / delivery of coins. But ye ole adage "You must accept any and all legal tender" is flat out false. " This statute means that all United States money as identified above are a valid and legal offer of payment for debts when tendered to a creditor. There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or services . Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether or not to accept cash unless there is a State law which says otherwise. For example, a bus line may prohibit payment of fares in pennies or dollar bills. In addition, movie theaters, convenience stores and gas stations may refuse to accept large denomination currency (usually notes above $20) as a matter of policy ."

[@oldironsides4107]

@tellurye Yes. You’re talking about a private business. They can refuse any customer for whatever reason. I owned a small butcher shop for decades. Sometimes I would take payment in coins. Other times when we’re busy no. State and federal buildings yiu can pay with a million dollars worth of Pennie’s. . You don’t know what you’re reading A courthouse isn’t a private building. Private business are every business but state and federal building which takes all forms of currency for debt.

[@SunnySydeRamsay]

Next time you need to push it, give them the specific laws on paper that state they must accept it, and file a petition for relief of the amount due if they continue to persist.

[@marshalllhiepler]

Looks like the DMV has refused your attempt to pay a debt with legal currency. That means you can ask a judge to dismiss the debt, or demand compensation for damages.

[@jackwolfe2381]

I heard once that if they refuse your payment then it is considered payed off

[@rixyz7013]

The thing is, they legally have to accept it, as long as it is legal tender of the United States of America

[@OGPRONE]

bro. u caved in to easy. make a point. srick with it. and be clear. you would of had a good video. CAUSE YOU HAD THEM ROLLED AND THEY WOULDNT. you had that arguement won but you where scared to execute.

[@ezziboo]

Each roll would have to be opened and counted, which would waste a bunch of time and would inconvenience ALL OF THE OTHER PEOPLE WAITING.

[@blackcharizard163]

+ezziboo that's the point

[@Annette1965]

OGPRONE this is clickbait because he didn’t pay them in all pennies. What the hell was he wearing that thing on his head for? They would see his face once he took it off for his license unless they don’t have their face on their license there. Also, you could tell those pennies came from the bank by the way they were rolled. They should have taken them. Plus the top of the bag was clipped closed because it was 50 dollars in pennies. He should have told them more information.

[@CancunManny]

I agree! You guys caved in way toooooo easy!!! Yes of course it is a HUGE inconvenience for the DMV to have to count all them pennies. And YES they would have to open all the rolls and count them to make sure they are all in fact pennies even though they looked like they were rolled by the bank. For those wanting to pull this stunt, IT IS LEGAL TENDER! They said "policy" says we can only take two or three rolls, they should have asked to SEE THE POLICY to verify. If its a public debt (money owed to Uncle Sam) they have to accept any type of legal tender, hence you won't find any real policy that states you can only pay with one or two rolls of coins.

[@bryandreyfus2146]

Policy is not law.....Federal law says you MUST take legal tender of discharge the debt for amount tendered and refused.

[@cody7378]

Omg when he started shaking that piggy bank i almost died

[@Zeldalena]

Loolll i agree he was just unbothered shaking the piggy bank like nothing 🤣🤣😂

[@MarquisDeSadie]

PRIMUS!! Love it already! (Love this song..love Primus!) Well done!! Unfortunately, because we did that too many times in the 90's...haha, and now? Never happens..."He is trying to make a statement..." Too bad...this sort of thing used to work. Shit, they don't even use pennies anymore where I am now, (I am from the States)in Canada (Vancouver)...Pennies are pretty much more expensive to make now, so there is no need for pennies anymore. Sad...it IS legal tender.

[@apegnato2021]

I fucking love this.

[@Colzline]

Well, nice alternative to instead count it yourself I suppose, but he said policy states he can only accept "a couple" rolls due to customer volume. That's bullshit, no policy anywhere would ever use "a couple" to describe a quantity it has to be exact otherwise they can't enforce it by law because it's too vague. Next time if there is a next time, ask them exactly what the quantity is on the policy otherwise they can't enforce it, and if they still refuse just call the police, the DMV is connected to the government so calling the police would especially work in this situation, and if not talk to a lawyer.

[@ONLINEMARTY]

one of the definition of couple......: an indefinite small number : few so he is right that is two vague.

[@jerryoxford223]

Pennies are legal tender but the law does not compel any business or government agency to accept.

[@sipo70]

He's protesting his ticket peacefully and complying by paying the fine. If they don't count them, then give him the receipt and he'll take his pennies away. Simple. And besides, it ain't peco's, it's pennies.

[@vahagnmelikyan2906]

you guys are hilarious. calmly running on her nerves lol. sometimes they deserve it.

[@rickjames5998]

lol BS. THEY HAVE TO TAKE it, its federal law.

[@thereisnotruth]

rick daniels actually that is why it says on currency that it is legal tender for all debts, they do have to take it. unfortunately, there isn't actually any enforcement agency for currency. the secret service fights counterfeiting but that's about it. I called the US department of treasury, the US mint, and the secret service and they had no idea who enforced currency laws. you basically need a court order

[@rickjames5998]

i have actually had fines waved for trying to pay in pennies, but small fines, less than 75 dollars

[@rickjames5998]

yeah its one thing if you get kicked out of bestbuy or something. But if you have to pay a government or private agency for a fee or FINE thry have to accept any federal currency, which includes pennies

[@rickjames5998]

funny he is also a rick. heres another question, can a fine be paid in gold tho?

[@juniorjpk75]

This USC applies to policy of a creditor whether to collect any payment in form of cash only. You apparently don't understand your own quoting of U.S.C. If this organization had a payment policy to not accept cash for whatever reason, there is no mandate to do that. There are places that have a no cash policy, public and private, for security purposes if I had to take a guess. So, You "Rick Daniels" need to understand what you are quoting and stop calling people morons when you obviously have no understanding of what the U.S.C. is!

[@Medinaxena]

Should have asked them to show you the policy. It's supposed to be written.

[@scotthansen14]

No no policy needed policy is not law

[@oldironsides4107]

@scotthansen14 Sure. But the law is the coinage act of 1965. Which doesn’t apply to private business. This isn’t a private business

[@oldironsides4107]

That’s why they got with the times and got coin counting machines.

[@dionysus3774]

Bro... You should've asked " Are you refusing to take my payment/cash?" Their policy can't trump law dude.

[@donsperrazza2151]

Now I get why DWV people are so cranky

[@chuckychuck]

You're wrong.

[@douglaswilliam3609]

OH MY GOD . What a snatch ....She is a government cashier .... She is crying over her job.

[@xavieryoung5666]

Law states that if you owe a debt they have to take whatever form of payment (as long as its American currency ) you decide to pay in. Only if you owe a debt. Citations, Property tax ETC

[@patrice8257]

you should have told them you can't go to the bank because they have your licence

[@jameycollins725]

Those guys are stupid! They said they have to open them up! They are already bank rolled. They just need to count the rolls.

[@ilikemusicvideos6261]

Boy you should have made them show you the policy because it doesn’t exist

[@scotthansen14]

Even if they could show you the policy does not matter policy is not law

[@carlosoliveira-rc2xt]

@@scotthansen14 The law allows for policy.

[@scotthansen14]

@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt continue to be a tool then and let others violate your rights policy is not law if it's not in the Constitution it's not a law

[@carlosoliveira-rc2xt]

@@scotthansen14 You once again have no idea what you are talking about. Don't speak of the constitution or any shit you think you're an expert in. As I have repeatedly told you and your cement head, look on any law website and you will easily find the answer that you are unwilling to accept. No business and no government agency is bound by the coinage act of 1965. The act simply states what is legal tender which the government changes at any rate. They take coins and bills out of circulation all the time. This is why places like McDonald's can and does refuse $100 bills. Go ahead and try to pay for fries with one. I don't know how many times I have to tell you the same thing. You may not like it but it's the law. Not your idea of what the law is but the actual law. I couldn't care less what you think of me. You're a retard in my eyes. I don't make the laws, I just understand them unlike you. You don't even realize the difference between a law and an act. Go to bed, little baby, and when you wake up tell your mommy you want to be a lawyer.

[@SunnySydeRamsay]

@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt provided that the policy is within the bounds of the law.

[@andrewbrenneman3782]

Sadly, this is in Oregon. VIOLATING FEDERAL LAW. Policy IS NOT LAW. THESE SERVANTS NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

[@JinapherShakur]

I'm not gonna lie, if I seen you in public wearing that mask, I would stare and be terrified! Lol

[@thefitnesslife4988]

Get use to it.

[@leroyjenks5318]

is that background music primus

[@ShouldHaveWornACondom]

i would have told them to take the money and count it, or i was gonna call the FBI, and they would tell them to take it or be under fbi investigation which would end up making them resign and not able to hold another job within the government.

[@cajunbayouvlogs5308]

Coinage Act of 1965

[@embrj1453]

It's a law so the Police should be enforcing it, instead they brake it...

[@Kittiesdawn]

embrj145 Ffs learn how to spell....its break not brake !

[@Kittiesdawn]

embrj145 Ffs learn how to spell....its break not brake ! Wrong context..

[@tooge47]

had to take medicine to address the motion sickness after watching this video

[@iwsatchmo]

The audacity to have a flower on the pen

[@andrewbrenneman3782]

DISGRACEFUL PUBLIC SERVANTS. Fire them all. They no longer deserve to be PUBLIC SERVANTS.

[@subob5293]

i love this you sould have made them count all the penneys. thay have to.

[@LuxuryIncorp]

What I would have recommended is going there every day and given them the amount they can take in pennies until you pay your fine

[@K2856-y8e]

Lol, I have been watching videos where people pay or try to pay with pennies. I don't understand, money is money. Why keep manufacturing coins if they aren't accepted as money? I hate pennies but they are a form of payment and should be accepted.

[@justjoy7194]

I would take your pennies, than make you wait all day, and maybe some of the next day, for your receipt

[@rogersmicharl]

A PRIVATE BUSINESS , OR ORGANIZATION , OR PERSON DOESNT HAVE TO ACCEPT PENNIES AS PAYMENT FOR SERVICES . LUCKY THE DMV ISNT A PRIVATE BUSINESS.

[@bluedoggum8373]

Tell them to shut up and do their job. Why do they get to say no, just because it’s convenient for them? GTFO. Do your job and start counting,

[@sammysplatoon8216]

Think from her perspective

[@mcsheesh278]

Im glad that weird music stops

[@RalphERo824]

If I am not mistaken is it not against the federal laws to refuse legal tender here in the states. That fat boy just broke federal law refusing to take the pennies.

[@kevinhauser8250]

I've seen a couple of these situations. They cashiers either say we only accept rolled if you have loose coin and loose coin if you have rolled. Wtf

[@stephanielane9287]

What the hell you can't hear anything but music 😑

[@prometheus5700]

Title should be "I'm an asshat - watch and I'll prove it"

[@ericmcguire5469]

Its a federal crime to deny any legal tender, money cash

[@21601tugboat]

Thanks for the song!!still listen to primus!

[@rstefanie2622]

YOu should have stood your ground. The coinage act of 1965 allows coins as a legal payment tender and if not accepted the debt would have been forgiven

[@richardasunrise3514]

What do they not get that it is legal tender?

[@BIGBUD71]

turn the music down .cant hear nothing

[@robertblood4847]

Where are you in Oregon

[@thefitnesslife4988]

@1:40 that's going to be mandatory a year from now.

[@lilmsgs]

Federal law says they have to accept pennies as legal tender: Title 31 (Money and Finance), Subtitle IV (Money), Chapter 51 (Coins and Currency), Subchapter I (Monetary System), Section 5103 (Legal Tender) of the United States Code states: United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues. Foreign gold or silver coins are not legal tender for debts.

[@anthonye.4387]

It's amazing how they want the money but don't want the money.

[@ItzBananaMan]

is the song by Primus

[@blacksfortrump7030]

ANY business, Government agency that is funded by taxpayers has to take the pennies. That is a fact. An indisputable fact. If it's a private business, they can refuse to accept all pennies.

[@symula]

I think everyone is missing the point. The DMV needs to take it to the bank, not the customer. OH well!!

[@VQ_Rides]

If they forfeit payment then you dont have to pay right?

[@SIMONC256]

so you spent hours paying a fine, no one cares, just a funny story about the idiot who came in with coins, strange , would it make more sence not getting the ticket in the fist place? just an idea

[@JeffryGilbertBKK]

Hell hath no fury as a petty bureaucrat scorned.

[@LuxuryIncorp]

Dude the DMV is full of divorced women who have a shitty attitude towards everyone they meet. I’m sure one person with a great attitude is going to loose the great attitude when they work at the DMV for a week

[@patriciahynes3537]

theyre rolled... u r considerate in that way... good job.... ftw

[@AbiZolanski]

A moment of silence for the Primus tho

[@marcb8934]

I dare someone to eat a McDonalds in the DMV and burp loudly. Then wave at the security staff with a mouthful of cheeseburger a lot of squidgey women about though lol!.

[@Williamhholla997]

Dude the idea is to open it and make the count it. What a bus

[@edvinchandra1277]

Why they open and count again. It's exact change.

[@alexneil9116]

they just dont want to mess with the coins, and she says you could just go to the bank and exchange it, no she can. all dmv. does is take money all they need to do is buy a change counter.

[@claytonroberts344]

Wow at 12:37 she told him he has to sand there as they count it wow did he know he can give them a bill for his time over seeing them doing that.

[@juanmvargas644]

she wants to cry

[@itstimetoact9069]

Whats up with the crapy loud music, I cant even hear the conversation

[@danieljameschamberlin1726]

Whose fault is it that the DMV does not have time enough to answer their own phone.

[@JandJFarmCritters]

Policy is not law. All government agencies have to accept all US legal tender, that includes pennies.

[@joshuat2751]

long story short. "We're fucking lazy and dont wanna count"

[@petefromoz7053]

love it, count it............it is legal tender.

[@fishydubsfishing6516]

God forbid Thay were short 1penny I’m surprised she don’t check the copper content to make sure thay were not counterfeit

[@nashguy207]

I see so many people doing this i checked and our city has laws to prevent anyone from trying to do this here if you try to do it here they will refuse your payment.

[@sparticus214]

No sir you own your license for 4 years for 10$ that's the universal law and you are not to be denied a copy of id cus you can't not have I'd it's illegal to deny ID you can call the feds and say your identity was stolen

[@aaronc9247]

Stop mom your not helping! Lol

[@juniorjpk75]

750 pennies is the correct math my man. And, kudos for you on trying to pay them in pennies. If I am mistaking and you are not paying $750 for you license to be renewed, then I apologize for my comment. If that is the case, you may want to move to a different state because that is a little stiff for a license to drive a car. LOVE WHAT YOU DID!!

[@jimmal4471]

They could’ve counted all of those pennies with all the time that we spent arguing with you

[@Legal_Sweetie333]

Why the music?

[@josephmyles2539]

4:26 when your mom supports the real you

[@ccfulton22]

these people are insane

[@SunnySydeRamsay]

They're ROLLED! If you wanted to be an ass you could've unrolled them all and made them take that instead, they should've just cut their losses, but I don't understand why they would cry over rolled coinage...

[@santivans13]

Omg that music is horrendous! Lol

[@RoadsidePicnic]

Her being upset to count the pennies LOL

[@detroitsniper9399]

Wouldve been a lot easier to stack them next one another in some denomination to make an accurate count

[@josmith1618]

this guy was not aggressive enough to make them accept their pennies as payment!

[@wuzzy5894]

And why are you counting? why didnt you just open the rolls and hand them to her?

[@watson9897]

Well I guess that backfired

[@oscarcleaver639]

every dmv ive been to only takes check or money orders

[@glaucoma888]

i never would have taken rolked pennies

[@di5stargeneral]

dude, nxt time..please let them know that a policy does not override a law. Where you were was at a government entity..by law they have to accept it since it legal tender. If they don't have the man power to count it, that's their problem, they're the one that have to verify it,,YOU DON'T have to be present for them to count it since you've already verified for yourself that it's the correct amount...amm, yeah, and just keep quiet, they can botch how much they want...and if they refuse to the payment, it can mean that your debt was paid in full, but I'm not too sure on that.