🛑 GPU Market Saved? 🛑 Ryzen 9000 BAD vs 7800X3D? 🛑 June 2024 Q&A EP1

[@PCBuilderChannel]

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[@ravakahr]

What case is that background PC

[@AnonymousUser-ww6ns]

I tried it and it sucks especially the mic. If you want a good headset with excellent mic and soundgets the Corsair HS80 wireless. So for I’ve had it and it great. The mic on it is also really good. Also if you want to save money all together just get a cheap wired Razer headset for $30 and get the Hyper X solo cast Mircophone for $30 and you’re all set.

[@jad1079]

Mr. Bear: "Ima sit in front of the camera." 😂

[@Roll_the_Bones]

That's so Cat... "Look at me, ok?" 😸

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Mr. Bear appreciates all the attention and thanks you both :)

[@MerkDolf]

Publishers depend too much on pushing updates over the internet instead of the old days when your game had to be fully developed before you burned it to disk.

[@hihellothere9569]

Because you have to remember, it's better to have updates than developing a new game just to rerelease it without bug fixing

[@MerkDolf]

@@hihellothere9569 Updates are great, bug fixes are great, just seems to me the bugs were deeper in the past. Now days it appears that the releases are bata testing not real releases.

[@DirkDjently]

the worst headline I saw about the 7800x3d outperforming the non-x3d 9000 series was "AMD says its best gaming CPU will outperform the 9000 series gaming CPU's" or something to that effect - comparing the 7000 series x3d to the 9000 series non-x3d but referring to them both as "gaming CPUs" without clarifying that difference. It sucks that even generally decent quality outlets, like this one was, have to respond to the incentives for misleading clickbait article titles.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

The wait for real 3rd party testing is brutal

[@SpoonHurler]

We will need to see how the numbers look with overclocked/PBO values as well because that's where X3D chips struggle because of the heat the memory holds so less power throughput, lower clocks. In mixed use or games that want higher clocks and can't utilize the cache they might compete. Also memory controller will be improved. I want to wait for third party and think it will be very interesting

[@senilestix]

Didn't the 5800x3d do the same!?

[@senilestix]

Ok..you just said the 5800x3d thing

[@sherrydowns4052]

@@senilestixyeah

[@zx9018]

Ur cat is so adorable and i swear ive watched the past 4 of your videos just to see if that majestic back cat would sitting there with you

[@PCBuilderChannel]

He is the true star of the channel I know (;

[@monhero9300]

Prices are almost confirmed, its slightly cheaper than last gen release. 9950x3d should be beast with all core 3d v cache and cache improvement and lower tdp + ipc uplift. I wish radeon was like ryzen

[@PCBuilderChannel]

I saw those leaks too! Still rumor of course but we'll go over them more in our CPU Market Update coming soon

[@blahorgaslisk7763]

Well the 9950X3D being a better product than 7950X3D isn't hard to predict, but the question is still WHEN? AMD has not yet said anything about the X3D processors other than basically "Yes, they will be released, some time". My guess is that when Intel releases their new chips AMD may retaliate with the 9000 series X3D chips. All to try to stay on top where games are concerned and to steal some thunder. As for the all cores 3D V cache, well we will have to see how that performs. The thing is that cache content will differ between the two CCDs, thus if a process is moved from a core on the first CCD to a core on the second CCD the cache content will not support that process. Ways to combat this would be to avoid moving processes between CCD or if there were some fast connection between the two caches that allowed cache data to either replicate or be accessed remotely. Now how good any of these would be I can't really guess at. The buss between the caches are what I think is least likely, so most probably there will be an attempt to lock processes to cores on one of the CCDs. This was probably a reason why the processors in the 7000 family with two CCD only had the cache on one of them.

[@patsk8872]

7800X3D excels in gaming due to the cache. It's actually SLOWER in productivity than the 8-core 7700. The new 9000 series will not have the 3D cache, but not only will be able to at least approach 7800X3D in gaming, but should be way faster in productivity and general computing. That is the choice. If you really ONLY care about gaming and/or you have to build now, pick a current chip that you are happy with. Otherwise I would really wait, and I believe the 9000 series will be awesome.

[@PLAYER_42069]

Thanks, for another informative video, Jason! I'm still rocking a 3700X + 6800XT, and I can play modern games like Ghost of Tsushima, Horizon Forbidden West at 4K, 60fps at High settings (native and FSR). My next upgrade will be a 5800X3D because I don't need the latest and greatest, and I like get the most out of my hardware. In fact, I've been playing my PS5 the most as far as recent gaming, goes. So, it's nice to see a channel that keeps viewers updated on the latest tech, but doesn't force upgrades on them due to sponsorships & other deals. Keep up the great work!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thanks so much for the awesome feedback it means a lot!

[@kelley09162]

That will be a good CPU upgrade for you. Just note the 5700X3D would also be a good CPU upgrade for you if you wanted to save a little.

[@patrickkearns7847]

I upgraded from 3700x and 3060Ti to 5800x3d and RX 6800XT-you will *not* be disappointed. With upscaling and frame gen, I can record gameplay, stream to my buddies in Discord, and still pull 180-200fps at 1440p & decent quality in WarZone

[@Teh_Monk]

Defo looking forward to the 9800X3D release benchmarks, whenever they get here. I’m using a 7600X and am interested in seeing what the gaming uplift is between the two.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Me too!

[@detroitdave9512]

11:08 Really glad I'm not the only one scratching my head trying to find strategy benchmarks of any kind anywhere. Grand RTSs make up the vast majority of my playtime, so I definitely see how they'd be difficult to reliably do.

[@gntan83]

I did go to check out that very first video! Amazing how far this channel has come since then.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

oh noo! (; Yes we've come a long way and we are very grateful!

[@doomdragon83]

I built my current PC with a 5600X and an RTX 3700 in 2021, I'm still regretting not waiting and going for AM5 but since I don't need to build a new pc any time soon, it feels good to sit and watch all of this play out. Maybe I can snag a 57/5800X3D if I ever see it on sale but I'd rather just save up for the next build. By the time I'm ready to build a new PC, my options should be really good.

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

true better to sell those in one unit

[@Rajiihammr]

All of the gamers here won't relate, but I bought a Arc A380 for the my desktop and I'm OK with it. Dual booting Fedora Linux and Windows 11. Enjoy the informative vids from Jason.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

If you're happy thats all that matters! (:

[@kaileh57]

Came for the tech updates, stayed for the cat lol

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Best reasons! (;

[@biznisman7049]

With CAMM2 memory you don't need to worry about Tower cooling placements.

[@johnfritz1164]

Always nice to have the hardware updates but we have not seen the cats recently (until today) 😊🎉

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Yes the star of the channel returns!

[@kirby0louise]

SLI and CrossFire failed partly because they were too ahead of their time. The concept of using multiple GPUs for gaming isn't unheard of, but it requires a very fast interconnect as well as skilled programmers/good libraries, things that just were not available when the push for mGPU happened. A real shame, but that's just how things are.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

That's probably true (RE: Crossfire/SLI). I think the incentives issue is the key. There just wasn't an incentive to keep pushing SLI/Crossfire because GPU performance advanced way faster than they could fix the interconnect, so buying a "bigger GPU" just made more sense. Similarly with CAMM2, while the benefits seem obvious over DDR5 DIMMs, I don't think they will be valued enough to spend more on CAMM2 motherboards and modules which will have a huge early adopter tax put on them. Especially given how the fastest gaming CPUs are now X3D where RAM speed matters very little. But we'll see!

[@blahorgaslisk7763]

@@PCBuilderChannel The SLI and Crossfire tech was quite different to the initial SLI tech developed by 3dfx. Their tech was called Scan Line Interleaving. With two cards each of them processed the even or the odd scanlines. This meant that they had almost exactly the same amount of work to do for each image generated. The Nvidia solution instead lets each graphics card produce odd or even pictures so each other image is delivered by each GPU. if something major happens such as a shift between scenes then the load on the cards can differ a lot. There's also the thing where the game had to be programed to use SLI for Nvidia or Crossfire or it wouldn't work at all. With 3dfx solution there were no such programming necessary. All games using GLint would run in SLI if you had two Voodoo cards and connected them correctly. Now I have no idea if it would have been possible to implement a tech like that in DirectX, Vulcan or OpenGL, so perhaps this shortcoming wasn't avoidable. Having said that even now it is possible to use several GPU to run one game using the latest version of DirectX, but it has to be programed to do so, and the number of users with several high performance GPUs in the same machine is so low that as far as I know there are no games written to use that.

[@kirby0louise]

@@blahorgaslisk7763 Rendering alternate scanlines wouldn't guarantee equal work division, as there's still plenty of tasks that are not dependent on screen space. DX11 does support imGPU, which puts the burden on the driver to split the work. Vendors HATED this because there were ALWAYS bugs and performance problems. DX12 introduced emGPU which put the onus on developers to support multiple cards, but had the advantage of allowing you to mix models, vendors and even iGPUs and no need for special bridges. Unfortunately mGPU adoption at the time was so horrid and the lack of good libraries lead to pitiful support. Apple's M Ultra chips don't fall into many of these mGPU pitfalls, but they're soldered and have an extremely expensive interconnect to allow the two M Maxes to work as a single chip. This doesn't work for DIY PCs Until we solve the interconnect problem mGPU will remain this way

[@kirby0louise]

@@PCBuilderChannel Yeah, agree with you on that. It should be noted that CAMM has benefits outside of performance, and has JEDEC standardization backing, as well as way less programming overhead. I think it stands a much better chance at sticking around than mGPU

[@NEZLeader]

I'd say it was really the ushering of x2 cards that got equal or better performance to using sli/crossfire. For a lot of the time the added memory was not fully utilized and also unless you got higher-end overpriced enthusiast-grade boards the two PCIe x16 ports would be down clocked to dual x8.

[@ASOGAMERS]

I mainly see negative things about the 7900x3d. I game and do video editing. For $329 the 7900x3d seems like a good deal deal to me. What do you think?

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Sadly there are issues with that and the 7950X3D so I don't recommend either. See our latest 7800X3D build guide video for more, we go over this there

[@robbay8610]

Intel is probably still the best choice for productivity and editing

[@towncrier9944]

Wow! Getting a shout out from PC Builder! I totally agree with you sir.

[@timometsanoja9666]

Did some 3dmark math a while back and the 7800x3d started to show it's benefits from 7900gre and up. Unless you are going that or above on your GPU selection you don't need the 7800x3d either. And as the consoles age, the PC hardware market has a lot of headroom as it is. You don't need the top end PC parts for any game. Unless you really are in it for just bragging rights. To sum everything up right now, unless you want to go to 4k gaming, you have zero need for top end PC parts for CPU and GPU. And those ridiculous DDR5 speeds are in this same boat. The memory does not effect your performance all that much.

[@gerthinatorgaming5952]

I am literally looking at upgrading..... Time to watch for any news. Trolling through all the pc sites as I watch. UK based

[@Rivstar]

Just bought that acer predator a770 16gb thats shown in the thumbnail. It came with a free 32gb usb drive with drivers on it, very cool.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Nice!

[@GrandmasterBBC]

I built a new 7800X3D system a few months ago. I'm feeling pretty good about that decision at this point.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Nice!

[@Hjorth87]

Man, the first Homeworld was a gutter punch right in the feelings. Especially the early mission where you return from the test run and everything is destroyed. The vocal version of Adagio for strings was just amazing. I haven't touched Homeworld 3 yet. Maybe I won't. I'm not sure I can get back into it, as my skills have changed away from RTS to something where I have more time to think and get my chickens in a row

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Its especially hard to take the terrible storytelling when the earlier games were so good!

[@Hjorth87]

@@PCBuilderChannel uff, that's just a major letdown. I guess I'll just stick with remastered collection then.

[@thebiggestoneyouveverhad]

With the current price of the 7800 x3d, I went ahead and built one on a b650 with 32g ddr5 and a pny 4080 super. I think I'll be good for a while...

[@macronomicus]

ive enjoyed my 5900x for a while, its been great, I bet that 9950x3d will be a fantastic upgrade, its rewarding to skip a generation or two, they're excellent parts anyway & last long. I want a new GPU but still cringe at the prices.

[@ancalagonyt]

On grand strategy games, not all of them are turn based. Stellaris is basically real time, with the ability to pause and set time to move faster or slower. With Stellaris, you sometimes get a big lag spike when something happens suddenly across the entire galaxy in the late game. In benchmarking Stellaris, it would be less "how many fps" and more "how long was the big lag spike".

[@weirdodude1173]

I don't consider the 9600X bad vs. 7800X3D, it's just going to be a little slower in games. It still has the architecture improvements and a faster boost clock speed along with a lot lower power usage. Sure, the 9800X3D will be the big upgrade, though. I'm also feeling alright with the DDR-6000 CL30 RAM kit that I have ready for my next build with 9600X. Thumbs up!

[@Gamer-q7v]

Great video. Keep up the good work. Competition is definitely needed, especially in the gaming GPU market.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thanks for watching!!

[@Roll_the_Bones]

Sound advice, as always, J. I was not fully aware of the thing about Nvidia GPUs being more CPU dependant than AMD cards... sort of makes sense when you think about it. AMD is more cubic inches, and Nvidia is more turbos & chipping... if you look at it in those terms!

[@altonb.1396]

Im excited to see all these new parts ill be able to upgrade to in a couple years

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Yes!

[@goldchris1111]

im on am4 been on it since its first release, i got a 1700x now im sitting on a 5600x that i will be using until probably am6, i see the performance increases from am4 to am5 being not that big. Its not at all like it was with am3+ to am4. The value imo is just not there if you already have an am4 system. Im really looking forward to battlemage, i really wanted to get an arc a770 16gb card but at the time and still now they are over ~$300 so i instead got an open box 8gb rx7600 for $220 like a week after launch What really turned me off of am5 was the 7000 series launch and how hot everyone was reporting that it ran. Also i dont like how the 5600x runs, it is always running at its max speed without regard to usage, so idle temps are 45-50 degrees and is only a bother because my room is small so it heats up fast

[@Hexenkind1]

Ryzen 9000 is no different to Ryzen 7000 in comparison to 5800X3D. I do not understand the drama.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

We grapple with exactly that in the video!

[@legiox3719]

I’m torn. I’m in the market to build a new computer (currently running a i7 6700k and a 1080ti at 1440p). When I upgrade I go all out, because as you can see my tech is pretty old. With that being said I was sold on the 7800x3d, but with the new 9000 series coming out, should I go ahead and wait for a 9000 series or 9000x3d when they come out or get a 7800x3d now. Also when is the 9000x3d chip coming out?

[@PCBuilderChannel]

We actually grapple with this exact thing in the video! Lots of people asking this question right now.

[@kelley09162]

If you want to go 7800X3D I can help you pick out parts if you want. I just need to know your budget.

[@spacejambluray2591]

9000 is coming out allegedly near the end of the year and x3d releasing a lil while after, the prices will be roughly the same but with a lil better performance if you wanna wait it’ll be a tiny bit better but up to you. In the same boat and I’m torn between getting a 4080 super for rt and dlss or waiting for 50 series. But if 50 series launch is being held back by china restrictions then I’m not sure

[@Lennox032]

If I were you I would not get the 7000x3d chip as you'll be playing at 1440p. I would wait and pick up the 9600x chip as that would be more than enough for your needs. X3d chips benefit most at 1080p.

[@elbarriotrucker]

I would go with the 7800X3D, then wait like two years until the 9800X3D is on sale and then drop that in. It's all AM5 right?

[@paulbantick8266]

I've just brought a 5800x3d for my 6800xt gaming PC. I got it today. I'm replacing a 5900x, which is going in my second PC. As long as things are OK with 4th gen for the next couple of years, I'll stay with what I've got

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Good plan!

[@PindleofKujata]

Computex showed me all I needed to know about GPUs: No 50 series or RX 8000 until CES, in all likelihood. No longer any reason to hold off on upgrading if you want to. I took advantage of the AMD game bundle to buy a XFX Speedster Qick 7800 XT, because I'm tired of my 3070 Ti 8GB VRAM buffer and Nvidia's behaviour. Imagine spending 2 hours to talk about AI and night markets. Ryzen 9000 looks pretty exciting, though. >_>

[@andrecosta9253]

Great video ! , I think I will upgrade from the Ryzen 5950x to the Ryzen 9950x 3D when it comes out. real gain in games and productivity.

[@rdnowlin1206]

Remember any GPU upgrade may involve a PSU upgrade as well. More powerful GPUs needs MORE POWER!!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Yes! And we cover this more in our How to Upgrade your PC 2024 video as well

[@Ramshackle6984]

For the air cooler question. I have a 7800X3D + 7900 GRE rig. My office is typically ~25*C in the summer. I cool the 7800X3D with a Thermalright Burst Assassin with two fans (~$30) with typical load temps at ~70*C on the CPU and ~65*C on the GPU (3 fan model).

[@PCBuilderChannel]

thanks for sharing!

[@Roll_the_Bones]

Yup, it's all the extra cores on, say, i7 & i9 cpus which need all the extra cooling. Mad to get all those cores just for gaming, since you'll have to pay for extra cooling to handle the extra cores, which you won't be using anyway! But, as always, yer pays yer money, yer takes yer choice...As the saying goes.

[@weolo]

Thanks, I love your videos, really sensible and great information. I will hold off a month or 2 before I decide how to make my big upgrade. Oh and thank you for giving practical advice! I personally won't be aiming for 4k, and I will make sure I don't have bottlenecks. I really want to get that balance.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Glad it was helpful!

[@jonathanbatista7481]

Didn't know you were a New Yorker as well. Kind of feel like that makes you much cooler.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Lived there for 6 years! But we moved to New Orleans last August.

[@Vews]

Right now I'm really stopping myself from going from the 13700 to a 7950X3D because of the promo that's going on.. I am still on DDR4 as well, which will be a huge bump to my multitasking once I move to DDR5, I think. Great video, however, keep up the great work!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Don't go 7950X3D is my advice though! That and the 7900X3D have performance issues which is why you're seeing their prices fall. See our 7800X3D build guide for more on this

[@Vews]

@@PCBuilderChannel Wouldn't that make streaming/recording a bit more of a hassle due to less multitasking performance? After all it's 16 threads vs 32 threads..

[@AniSepherd972]

i love how majestic mr bear is and quietly approving the information you give 🖤

[@PCBuilderChannel]

He is a fancy house panther!

[@harveybirdmannequin]

RTX 5000 and RX 8000 will release this year. I am seeing promos for RTX 4000 and RX 7000. They want to clear out stock before the release.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

We'll see!

[@Conner06]

Should i get a 4070ti Super upgraded from a 3060ti? Or wait for the 50 series? Just got into 1440p. I bought a 7900 GRE but every game had shader compilation stutter on a fresh windows install so im thinking im gonna return that.

[@kelley09162]

I would make sure you can't fix the 7900GRE before you return is as it should be great for 1440p. But if you do yes the 4070 Ti Super would be a good 1440p option. I just wish it were priced better.

[@Conner06]

@@kelley09162 Ya i tried all day yesterday to see if i could get it to work but was still having those same issues. Really not sure what was going on there.

[@AnonymousUser-ww6ns]

Try reinstalling the drivers on the GPU (mabye even use DDU). If it’s still doing it then it’s most likely a defective GPU. Yes the 4070TI super is technically the better option as it has AI features like DLSS which can help in gaming and productivity but it is horribly priced.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Depends on the rest of your system, see our Best GPU/CPU Combo 2024 video for that. But that's really strange you're having trouble with the 7900 GRE. I'd see about RMA ing if needed

[@IndianPandaPlays]

I see bear and im happy. My day is made, jason is the side character in the video 😛 you gotta make a bear themed build someday, like let bear chose between 2 or 3 motherboards, gpus, cpus and build a system with it, just floating an idea.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

That's a great idea!

[@MikeBob2023]

Random oddball fact: I found the 7900X3D for $10 cheaper than the 7800X3D (at NEgg) this morning. 🤔 Thanks, Jason. 👍🏼

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Sadly the 7800X3D is the more reliable choice due to the issues with the 7900X3D and 7950X3D, that's why you're seeing the prices drop on those. See our 7800X3D build guide we go over their issues there. So I would factor that into your decision

[@happalula]

8:00 get the cat back!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

I know!! But he does return (;

[@Ryhillchibulls]

Iceberg Tech released a SLI video yesterday.

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

i mean 3090 can be sli'd and perform close to a 4090

[@CNC295]

I've been happy with the A750 I bought a year or so ago. My only regret, I didn't buy the A770 16g version. And I now the A750 is $100.00 lower price now. :(

[@Magnisus]

Dev did it good with the Deserts of Karak. It was awesome. I don’t know what happened and they messed up H3.

[@AnonymousUser-ww6ns]

I think Ryzen 9000 or Zen5 could be worth it if it has better memory controllers, offers a 10% improvement, and is an excellent price.

[@AnonymousUser-ww6ns]

Honestly the X3D ones seem to more interesting

[@michaellink4806]

OMG JASON SPOILERS. this is not a channel where people can reasonably be expected to have to worry about that. that being said thank you for continuing to be the diy-pc hobby Buddha. I turn of ad blockers to watch your videos.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Oops sorry! (; Thank you for watching! We sure appreciate it

[@phatmhat9174]

if you want a story - read it. play games to, uhhh, play games. the game play should be good. the camm 2, smaller ram stuff makes me think of how apple on in one boards are soooo fast because all parts on one board.

[@MrLaserpowered]

I'd like to see him do an infomercial of the Slap Chop. 😂

[@gloden2142]

Love your videos brother thanks for the up date

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thank you for watching!

[@skivvywaver]

I put a 5800X3D and an RX 6800 in my AM4 machine. I am good to go for 5 years I figure.

[@Sybertek]

Bad at gaming? Not at all. Just not as good at gaming as the 7800X3D. But some use a CPU for more than gaming.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

And we'll need to wait for 3rd party testing as well!

[@Sybertek]

@@PCBuilderChannel looking forward to it. Still on AM4 and not really in the mood to upgrade since the cost going into it would be diminishing returns when it comes to my standards.

[@scepticskeptic1663]

the 9000 series series will be price dependant

[@itzturtlexd1721]

All I know is, as a competitive gamer with a 5800x3d, I get 600fps in all CPU bound comp games I play. 🤷‍♀️

[@gezimlimoni2319]

What GPU? Do you play CS2?

[@RADish-official]

Thank god my budget can’t include a 7800X3D

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Plenty of other options (;

[@zahadou]

i'm waiting for Voodoo 4 to wreck 'em all. imagine an entry level 3dfx Voodoo graphics card for $150 - i'd actually self-ignite.

[@charlessorocco2900]

Power consumption? Operating temperature? Price?

[@porkmeinster]

In the process of building a 7800X3D.Current PC is an i7 6600k coupled with a 3080 wich I will drop in my new build and water cool the CPU.What kind of improvement can I expect at 1440p?

[@spacejambluray2591]

It looks like if you wait you’ll get 10-20% more performance in terms of rumored cpu and gpu releases later this year for roughly the same price or slightly more. Currently torn between 4080super and waiting for 50 series but am concerned about the releases being gimped by chinas ai restrictions

[@PCBuilderChannel]

I would be worried too! Check out our latest GPU Market Update video for more on our thoughts on this

[@310_Latchkey_kid]

Always good to see Mr. Bear!!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

The star returns!

[@chrisarodgers]

Where are the questions posted that Jason answers? Also where do folks post builds/parts list for folks to review/critique (or for Jason to make better/more balanced)?

[@kelley09162]

There's a community post every month asking for submissions. June's hasn't happened yet so I would guess it will soon unless he's skipping this month.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Both the boost my build series and our Q&A series come from community posts once a month. We also announce its time on twitter/threads @pcbuilderjason

[@jerryguizar7073]

The videos I saw of motherboards using CAMM2 only had one module screwed down with 4 screws. Adding more ram will require a new module instead of adding sticks.

[@alandab]

I personally do believe the 9800 will beat the 7800X3D. The 9000 series have had some significant upgrades and changes over the 7000 series.

[@TheTanXS]

i think I’m going to upgrade to a 9800x3d right before zen 6 arrives since the price will definitely drop, currently using 7500F with RX6800, might as well upgrade to a rx8000 series by then

[@burnitdwn]

Powercolor Fighter 7900 GRE hit $499 for a couple of days earlier this week. I was tempted to pull the trigger, but might just wait for fall and see if I can snag a 7900xt or 7900xtx at a decent price.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

I know! That was a great price. Prime Day is coming up though

[@stevesutton772]

Made my pc in Febuary. Come back for the cats.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

The cats approve!

[@Robi-jw7fc]

Petition for Jason to start uploading in 4K

[@PCBuilderChannel]

I will soon actually!

[@clw22580]

“Don’t watch that video” IMMEDIATELY goes to video 😂😂😂

[@PCBuilderChannel]

haha oh nooooo! We've come a long way huh? lol

[@theevolutionslayer1772]

I have a sli and crossfire setup no issues they work great.

[@theevolutionslayer1772]

The sli specs z390a asus motherboard i7 9700 cpu 32gb ddr4 3200hz m.2 ssd 256gb operating system 4tb ssd (2)rog strix 1070s msi bridge 850watt psu. The crossfire specs b550 tomahawk motherboard ryzen 5 5500 cpu 32gb ddr4 ram 3200hz m.2 ssd 256gb 3tb hdd (2)rx 580s 750watt psu. Both windows 10 pro operating system xmp enabled and all cores enabled.

[@Bomamatabon]

This guy is the best PC guy on the internet....

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So glad you are enjoying!

[@woofwoofwoofwoofwoofwoofwoof]

Idk, you’re just a likeable dude.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Hey thanks (:

[@TheOneShadyCat]

Super happy with my 7800x3d, playing sifu at 50 fps without a gpu.. With some graphical concessions ofc.

[@obeyobay9146]

Are you waiting on the next gen gpus to buy?

[@torshec8634]

Been there, the old Relic peeps are just gone now, Company of Heroes 3 and Dawn of War 3 were absolutely disappointing. Also Chill Cat.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So frustrating!

[@Lone_GamerUK]

I want to upgrade my GPU as still an old etc 970 but has lasted pretty well since 2015. I was looking at 4070 Super to Ti Super but my msi x99s sli motherboard struggles & has a now old i7 5820 so basically I need a new motherboard, cup & then we into a whole new pc - 😢

[@Roll_the_Bones]

It had to happen eventually... Maybe get a used Z690 rig for cheap, once the new Intel cpus arrive? I predict a lot of folks will be looking to sell-off their LGA1700 PCs in a few months, and the market will be awash with bargains then? But avoid 13/14 i7s & i9s, which could be partially burnt-out...

[@Lone_GamerUK]

@@Roll_the_Bones yeah been hearing about some of their issues, I think the next few months options maybe be better as you say fingers crossed 🤞

[@kelley09162]

@@Lone_GamerUK I can help you pick out parts for a new PC if you want, I'd just need to know your budget.

[@TheBenlueks]

i upgradefrom ryzen 5 2600 and gtx1660 to ryzen 7 5700x3d and zotac 4070super and im so happy witht he results. i can play cyberpunk and any of those games at ultra ray tracing and its so awesome. but it runs so hot it makes me nervous. it maxed at 90.8C but i think its suposed to go hot? i might get a better cooler

[@kelley09162]

Yes I would suggest a better Cooler. The Thermalright Phantom Spirit is a good price to performance Cooler if available where you are.

[@finalalfinal7197]

can you talk about UN5 engine and how hard we get higher fps PURE NATIVE 4k resolution with powerful gpu like 4090 ?

[@deang6921]

I’m planning on buying, AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, Zen 4, 8 Cores, 16 Threads, 4.2GHz, 5.0GHz Turbo, 120W with 24GB ASUS GeForce RTX 4090 ROG STRIX OC, 16384 Cores, 2610MHz Boost, GDDR6X, 64GB of ram at 6000MHz, 4TB Crucial P3 Plus PCIe 4.0, Read 4800MB/s, Write 4100MB/s Write,800K IOPS. What we thinking will this perform well at 4k with most demanding games aswell as ultra settings

[@kelley09162]

Yes it will though I can't recommend ASUS because they somewhat recently Scammed Gamer's Nexus, and even if they hadn't that Strix GPU isn't worth the money in my opinion. The rest of the specs look good though.

[@deang6921]

@@kelley09162 oh is that so I say that because it cost £2000? I saw the 24GB ASUS GeForce RTX 4090 TUF GAMING OG, 16384 Cores, 2595MHz Boost, GDDR6X for 320 quid cheaper

[@kelley09162]

@@deang6921 yes because of the price. There are other good models a good amount cheaper.

[@MerkDolf]

Ah looks like Mr. Bear likes Arc GPUs walking in front of the camera whey you were talking about them.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Yes!

[@priyankverma7434]

Hey, First of all, thanks for reading this. I currently own a laptop (acer predator helios 300) with 16gb ram, i9 12th gen, 3060 and 3 tb storage(2tb recently added). I wanted to make a gaming rig, the specs on my mind are 7800x3d, 4070ti super. Is this a right time for the same? Or should I wait for a bit longer, there are certain bottlenecks that my laptop faces and hence I have stopped playing certain titles. Can you guide me for the same? I mostly play valorant and have recently started playing some more games. RDR2 is just super smooth.

[@kelley09162]

Those specs are good and no need to wait.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

That's a great combo. You can wait a few weeks to see the new Ryzen CPUs but as we say in this video they are unlikely to beat the 7800X3D so you certainly don't have to wait. See our 7800X3D build guide for a full sample build list

[@ilovepcsimdrifting]

What's the spec of your pc? Cpu- ryzen 5 7600 and gpu - radeon rx 7900 xt. But what about other components? Do you have 2 or more PCs?

[@PCBuilderChannel]

The pc on my desk which I use for streaming, gaming, and recording is 7600 and 7900XT. You can check out our 7600 build guide on the channel for that. Our main editing pc is a 7950X and 4090 because my wife is a professional filmmaker and needs the gpu power for her other projects.

[@ilovepcsimdrifting]

@@PCBuilderChannel Thanks ❤️ Appreciate your reply. You're my best guide for everything about pc. Love your content.

[@kelley09162]

​@@ilovepcsimdriftingI can help you pick out parts for one I'd just need to know your budget.

[@kelley09162]

@@ilovepcsimdrifting so here's a sample build for you but you can adjust it based on what's available to you. You can also go 7900XT on the GPU over the XTX depending on how things convert price wise or if you just want to save money. It's list / RdgWh3 in PC Part Picker

[@Kapono5150]

Im hoping a 4090 would last me a very long time

[@PCBuilderChannel]

It absolutely will

[@NoNumberListed]

Im more interested in the x870 motherboards and whether or not AMD will be able to benefit from faster memory with it.

[@facelessvaper]

Ooh, that reminds me, I need a haircut🤔✌

[@BlackHawkElite77]

Quick question: I currently have r5 5600x and rtx3050, and am planning on getting a Rtx 4070ti super. Will my 5600x keep up or should I upgrade?

[@kelley09162]

No you'd want to upgrade to the 5700X3D.

[@Ti64]

is Ryzen 5 7600X + 4070 Super are Good idea for Temporary? and then switch to Ryzen 9000 series X3D when it comes out.. TIA

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Absolutely. And you wouldn't need to switch anytime soon unless you were unhappy with the performance for some reason. Check out our 7600 build guide for more

[@ItsCPeasy]

I need help finding a 65% keyboard with rgb and rgb software any color but white and I also need a mouse with rgb any recommendations

[@rangersmith4652]

The 5800X3D is on AM4, with DDR4 RAM and a 5-series chipset. The 7600X is about as fast in gaming, but it's a completely different system: different architecture, AM5 chipset, DDR5 RAM. To have the same expectation going from 7800X3D to 9800X is unrealistic because they use the same chipset and the same RAM. And you can safely disregard AMD's new CPU performance claims; they're meaningless, just like Intel's.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Looking forward to that 3rd party testing!

[@rderubeis]

well i want soemthing better then my 12700k and 3070ti, I want it to last me 5 yrs . what do u recommend ? i also play high fps high refreshrate

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

a 4070 super prob

[@Immortalits]

I have a 3600x CPU with a 1050 Ti + 16G RAM, planning to get a long time investment, like 5-15 years. Should I wait for the next gen if my goal is to have a relatively low energy requirement or buy now a 7700x CPU + 7900 XT (for the 20G VRAM - so this part needs a lot later upgrade)? I'll probably not use this build' full capacity for now, planning to play (and mod) Sins of a Solar Empire 2 in 4k. Not sure if 32G RAM will be enough or should I go for 64. Hope you (or someone in the comments) can help even with just a few advice regarding this build and purchase.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

A 7700XT or 7900XT will be CPU bottlenecked by a 3600X so I would consider dropping in a 5700X3D as well if you are looking to move to that level of GPU. See our How to Upgrade your PC 2024 video for more

[@Immortalits]

@@PCBuilderChannel thanks :)

[@kelley09162]

​@@Immortalitsso yes a 5700X3D and 7900XT is a good combo of you don't want to spend money on a new Motherboard and RAM. However if you want to go AM5 the 7600 CPU is a great choice. Jason doesn't think the 7700/7700X is worth the extra money. You could also look at the 7900GRE GPU. Would also be a great pair with either CPU.

[@JohnPamplin]

Hmm, never seen this channel before. So it's like Moore's Law Is Dead, but with more cat. ;-p

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Welcome! Glad you found us. I wouldn't say we are like Moore's Law very often. I don't have insider access so I'm really not a rumor or leak channel. But this video one of our monthly Q&A videos so I address audience questions as best I can and that often involves speculating about upcoming releases based on what I've seen in my research. If you check out our channel page you can see we do a wide mix of videos including build guides and best of roundups. Our main goal on the channel is to help new and returning pc builders get the best possible build for them. But you are spot on about the "more cat" (;

[@shibari69]

Should I upgrade now to 7800X3D with my 3080 12gb? Or wait for the new AMD cpus? Also probably going to upgrade at some point to 50/60 series of nVidia.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

You certainly can but it’s not a long wait either

[@shibari69]

@@PCBuilderChannel is it worth upgrading for a long term? I mean can i use that CPU with the next gen gpus

[@matthewkavanaugh8952]

I just pick up the 7900x3d for 338 on Amazon and am planning on ordering a pny 4080 super soon. Any advice for other components? This is my first pc 😢

[@kelley09162]

What's your budget for this PC? Once I know I can try and make a build for you.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

I don't recommend the 7900X3D especially for a first time builder. It has all kinds of issues. You'd be way better off going 7800X3D. See our 7800X3D build guide for a great sample list and more on the issues with the other 3d CPUs

[@kasoncarter5440]

I need help my friend's dad that is going to help me build my pc tells me to go ahead and get a 1000w so I have enough for different parts I might want to change in the future what should I do I'm building a Ryzen 7 7800X3D CPU (Already bought) Noctua NH-D15 CPU Cooler Gigabyte B650 AORUS PRO AX Motherboard (Already bought) G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2 NVME Drive (Already bought) Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB GPU Fractal Design Meshify 2 Compact Lite CASE (Already bought) Corsair RM1000e (2023) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified PSU Should I get another 2 tb nvme stick Aswell?

[@o0Silverwolf0o]

A cats mind - if I can not sit in the spotlight, then you do not deserve the grace of my company 🧐

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Exactly!