Pearson 424 Ketch Walkthrough | Too Big OR Just Right? | Sailboat Story 148

[@nomadgical]

Holy crap, y'all walked right past our boat!!!! She was the little navy bottomed Endeavour 32 at the left (14:10) at the bottom of the ramp to that dock. I wish we knew you were coming, I would have cooked y'all some dinner!❤️

[@Sailboatstory]

Well in that case I wish you knew we were coming too. :)

[@AlienX69]

​@@Sailboatstory Needs to look at Capt Q's latest post .... $24,000 GREAT CRUISER! Pearson 385 .... under 40' and 2 staterooms, hasn't been listed per descript till today ...

[@Sailboatstory]

Saw it. Thanks.

[@AlienX69]

@@Sailboatstory It's his BEST FIND since .... "$39,000 for a solid & fast 45' bluewater sailboat for sale w/ amazing features?!! EP 11"

[@shanevillis4079]

@Michael Wilding Amercan slang for you all..... y'all.

[@AlbertoDelucca]

Ben, Tamby, where the heck you being. I miss you so darn much. Don’t take that long in posting new videos. We love you!

[@Sailboatstory]

Glad to be missed. We're trying! It's tough to even find boats worth traveling to check out. Hoping things will start to click pretty soon. Thanks for the love. :)

[@treasurecoastgypsy]

Dividers are used to measure distances on paper charts, those are one handed dividers

[@davidalbright7335]

Nice boat. Allow me to throw out some pearls of wisdom regarding the process: 1. It's just money. 2. It isn't the upfront cost of the dog but, rather, the cost of how much that dog will eat. 3. You gotta live somewhere and it is better and cheaper to live on the hook than in a boatyard for months. 4. None of you are getting any younger and daylight is burning. Musings from the man who is currently in the boatyard who, in 3.5 years, has spent 125% more on the refit and upkeep of his boat than the initial price. Best of luck on your purchase or your continue search. There is a spiffy sailboat over here named Spar Trek that is for sale. You could have a blast editing around a theme like that! Hugs to the fam.

[@richardhobbs7107]

David Albright - Like your 1 - 4 list ! #2 I gotta ask , " Can that dog Hunt ? ? " I'll bet it can! I wish you well with your boat . . . refit and upkeep is all part of the enjoyment of boat ownership ! ! So , your getting your money's worth . . . . ? ? IF you find yourself getting depressed by the cost and number of ever escalating repairs necessary on your boat . . . . I have found listening to a Norwegian girl sing to dissolve stress and tension very effectively for me ! ! ! That girl is Angelina Jordan . She has a lot of videos on KZbin & is very hard to describe . . . . . worth your consideration ! Checked your channel & see that you may prefer Dodge vehicles . . . . . I really enjoyed the Dodge D-100 Town-wagon I owned for 30 years . It never let me down . # 1. It's just money. Thanks ! ! ! RH

[@pachorra2184]

My 2 cents on the mater of Pearson boats is the simplicity when it comes to maintenance and repair, all systems are straight forward simple no B.S.

[@harrytaylor4211]

They are called dividers, engine 54HP same as a Perkins which parts fit and are cheaper, Bought new one in 78 had for 14 years , cruised from Maine to Bahamas just loved it. We cruised the Bahamas 6 to7 weeks in the summer for years. Sailed nice and very well built. Engine opens up and easy to work on. Only sold to buy catamaran. Later they came with cutter rig witch I would like better. you just love that cockpit.

[@TAMBestBuild]

I like the 424 and the 422. Needs a ton of work but you are good at that. Those did have issues with fuel tank leaks and the V drive as well as mast step corrosion..... Survey everything.

[@lesabre1972]

good to see you guys again

[@jayfitmob8645]

Bigger is better my friend, you'll be able to do much more with this boat

[@AlienX69]

the only issue is $$$$

[@michellesar6]

We had a 1980 Pearson 35. It was a great boat. Highly recommend! They’re well built boats.

[@Sailboatstory]

We looked at one when shopping for our first boat. Unfortunately, that particular one was VERY rotten and neglected. Cool boats though.

[@spinnaker1]

My dad had one back in the 90s till 2007 or so. Solid boat. The teak cap rail was a pita to keep up 😂

[@Sailboatstory]

Yeah, I think there's about 3/4 mile of teak cap rail on that boat.

[@CheersWarren]

Just paint it and it will hold up much better

[@Arian0027]

Omg so good to see you guys. Bet Molly has gotten big.

[@Sailboatstory]

She's enormous... and it worries me.

[@bravogolf5905]

Super glad to see a new video from you guys. Haven't watched it yet, but I'm sure it is good. Automatic thumbs up. I will return and comment or modify the "thumb" status if necessary.

[@Sailboatstory]

I'm on pins and needles over here.

[@martinlight3022]

A 424 Pearson is a solid boat for cruising. Sails well & layout is very good. Some people will skip looking at this boat because it is a ketch. Partnered up with this model of a Pearson in the Bahamas. Owner loved it.

[@johnwishart7950]

nice to see you back

[@scottbutler2075]

I have a 1977 P-35. Haven't watched the video yet. Everything that I could replace, I had to replace. Plus Everything else. Every. Thing. Incredibly happy I did. Wouldn't have done it any other way. I know what everything is. I know where everything goes. Its just taking longer than I thought. Oh well. All worth it. Designed and built a new interior. Redisigned the running rigging set-up to accommodate the decades newer sail designs. Still cheaper than buying new(er) and the only way I would approach the future with as much confidence as I have. Good luck. Try to *Not*go in debt or, borrow, as little as possible. Btw...that swing out bar stool was a hard find.

[@svi5332]

I own a 41' Center cockpit ketch, with shoal draft. Probably the perfect size for those of us on a budget. Nice about about ketches and yawls is 2 things.. sails are smaller than sloop, and boat can be balanced sailed without an autopilot, much harder to do than with a sloop. The boat can handle a lot more gear and supplies than smaller boats, so go for it!

[@craigparse1439]

Dividers (cruisingGypsy, Harry Taylor & others got it). Nice boat! You'd have to get a survey done before you buy it. I'm sure you would.

[@brucedemoranville4577]

Pearson was the best of the best. Beautiful design, quality build and excellent sailing characteristics..

[@brucedemoranville4577]

@@emilybh6255 Nate Herreshoff and family are in a league of their own. I lived within a mile of their facility for 20+ years and have been a member since childhood.

[@kevinlytle6215]

The Pearson 424 is a great cruiser! Very good choice!

[@riverrat4631]

I think you just found your new live aboard. If it’s going to be your home then spend the extra money. You know the channel will continue to grow. It will pay for itself in a few years. Plus it’s a proven sea worthy boat. That means more to me than anything. You find a boat that been on the hard for a couple years you will speed more getting it ready to go to sea. Great find..

[@tomppi70]

Cant wait to follow your sailing adventure.🙂

[@sailingitlldo1109]

I ferried a 424 from Mussel Shoals to Houston recently. Some thoughts. The cockpit is too large and not a great design. very uncomfortable. Kitchen needs antiskid on the floor and counters. works well under full sail other than that. Salon works well as sea berths, especially if you have lee clothes. "Aft Cabin" works as a sea berth, more or less. but is HUGE. Not a fan of the flooring in general, when wet it is slippery. Boat sails Fantastic. We had to hand steer, because the autopilot was busted. over twelve hours on the rail under full sail making 7 to 8 knots. the wind gradually died and we went to motorsailing then just motoring. Boat handled very well. Deck layout is good.

[@waynemazan7485]

welcome back.... we have missed you...

[@bmorrison0070]

Just bought a Pearson. They make great boats.

[@fernan2s136]

Go for it. You guys are awesome!

[@SailingKnotShore]

Look at a center cockpit before deciding.... we went from a rear to center and love the center cockpit better!

[@mikg7783]

Always fun to watch

[@Sailboatstory]

Glad you enjoyed it.

[@theislandpackrat]

Nice boat, I can start following you again!

[@nsw1959]

Great boat. I love ours. Check the structure under the sole. Also chain plates. Pul a few to see. Its worth the effort. Id be happy to talk to you about pros and cons

[@alphasails2]

Good luck with your decision. ❤️👍

[@kirsten07734]

The navigation tools are called “dividers.” “Compasses” are very similar but have a pen or pencil on one leg. A divider can be used to compare or measure differences in distances and a compass to inscribe circles. The sole is in the process of being refinished. The varnish-less section has been sanded in preparation for new varnish. Usually they’d just rough up the surface but this time they went back to bare wood. Perhaps there was water damage that reached the wood.

[@arumrunner]

Sending you guys some positive energy to make this new part of your adventure come alive!

[@Sailboatstory]

Thanks very much. Keep on sending it - we can sure use it.

[@graeme-sailingskeptic]

I like the video and the boat looks really good. But some issues I noted below: rust on the pin at the base of the jib furler (crevice corrosion?) - pulpit probably will need re-bedding - trim around the cockpit port lights- floor was possibly the result of a flooding incident - that rotary bilge pump is probably going to be very expensive to replace/repair . The discolouration on the raw water intake - may mean the bronze is starting to dezincify, so may indicate issues with galvanic corrosion. Through hulls and seacocks would also need to be checked/replaced maybe. Screw coming out of base of chart table chair. Mizzen turnbuckle - green probably indicates rig check required. Crack in toe rail beneath mizzen turnbuckle - possible issue with chainplate?? I'm not sure I like the running back stays fouling on the pulpit & bimini rails. Middle chainplate on the forward starboard side has what looks like rust. It does look like it is setup for clears all the way along the dodger and bimini which is nice. There appeared to be some bad weathering on the bulkhead coming down the companionway it might just be the location (sun/rain etc) but it also could indicate water ingress from a deck leak? Sorry if I sound nit picky but when buying a boat it pays to be...

[@Sailboatstory]

Ole "Eagle Eye" Henderson to the rescue.

[@graeme-sailingskeptic]

@@Sailboatstory to be truthful it was the pin on the furler that got me started after that... well there was no stopping me!🤣

[@CheersWarren]

Graeme from Aussie is on a couple of other groups I'm in and defiantly knows his stuff!

[@ariholm100]

Welcome back! ;)

[@bubbagail7450]

Hey guys been missing ya. Like the Ketch design, looks good. Came up y’all’s way the other day and ate at the x-factor. Trying to find a boat right now has got to be pretty tough, wishing ya heaps of luck.

[@carltonshell1964]

heh takes a while to get all the terms and names right... everyone else already answered the dividers.. so I'll tackle the Pullman, a Pullman Berth is a drop down bed over another bed.. like a foldaway bunk bed... so... that is NOT a Pullman :D

[@Expendible1971]

12:55 Divider

[@Sailboatstory]

You're certain they're not marine nose hair tweezers?

[@Expendible1971]

@@Sailboatstory Only on the odd numbered days of Junetember

[@Sailboatstory]

@@Expendible1971 I knew it.

[@robbylafont]

I hope this boat works out for you guys....can't wait to see where she takes you...

[@smilerpie1]

I’d buy that one

[@larrydicenzo3826]

We owned a 1975 Pearson 424 center ketch. Your not going to win any sailing races but it is one rugged boat that can take the weather. The center cockpit is awesome, not only big but you are high for good visibility and it keeps the seas out. Great boat.

[@Sailboatstory]

Did you have the 422 center cockpit version?

[@larrydicenzo987]

@@Sailboatstory Yes

[@svsavinggrace8331]

Perfect boat for you guys!!

[@kjohnson6159]

Lines rope is on the bell 😁👍

[@Sailboatstory]

Don't be that guy. ;) *You're right though.

[@franktartan6808]

Dividers. I am not going to get all stressed out with this decision, calm down. I am sure you could make any boat work for you. BTW, I am sure someone started to strip that floor for refinishing. Thanks for posting again. Sort of feel like you are my lost nephew and his family. I have faith that you will make the right decision. Your smarts have served you well. Things that you may consider. It is a ketch. Mast in cockpit but also another sail. Read up on ketches pro and con. Also you have to pass thru the aft cabin when leaving the cockpit. There is good and bad with that. Old boat but a good builder. ok, enough. Good luck Ben, Tambi, and Molly.

[@supershane1960]

Way to go guys, good seeing you out and about sorting out the boating scene. Loved the start, didn’t know you spoke Japanese Ben. Hope Tambi’s leg spots clear up soon…. Looks like you’re going to get yourself a great room (berth) Molly. Looking forward to the next one guys…. ;-}

[@tomd.3082]

I know exactly where y'all were. I won't give it away though. Looking forward to stopping there on my way north, next week. Right now I'm at Jekyll island.

[@dakotatactical4852]

Pearsons are great designed boats. I'd love to have one myself.

[@gregoryfranklin5108]

I know this is a "shopping video" but I am curious. Do you have and have you ever used a drift sock ? I have used one a time or two inorder to maintain orientation at anchor in a current . I never hear about anyone using them .

[@Sailboatstory]

There's not a whole lot you can do to maintain orientation if you're anchored in a current. I mean, any current over about 1 knot, maybe not even that much, and just about any device thats designed to keep the nose pointed into the wind is going to be easily overwhelmed. With that said, we do have a "riding sail", but we've never actually used it. I'd imagine that a drift sock, just by virtue of the name, probably goes in the water, so perhaps that would slow the boat down quite a bit, although I could see it easily getting tangled in the anchor chain if the boat is sailing around at anchor. Sorry - probably not much help but there are some thought on it.

[@gregoryfranklin5108]

@@Sailboatstory I was just curious . I know how to use them in my fishing boat but was curious about the possibility of using them for sailboats . I don't have that kind of experience so thank you for answering my question . 😊

[@TheCorsair]

That’s a great option.

[@danielpearson6306]

Those are dividers for chart navigation.

[@Mikesroadtrip-ec5kp]

About time! Let's go.

[@bradmottishaw467]

Just right!

[@clivemaclennan3299]

They are dividers used for chart work.

[@rimasmeleshyus9486]

Great boat ,very interesting how they built engine, thank for sharing. Greetings from the tropical paradise island 🏝of Kauai

[@cometjockeydave4041]

If I were in that situation I would buy the boat, and put it on the hard, (less expensive storage), and bust tail working for a year before taking off so I'd have a good cruising kitty ready to go.

[@Sailboatstory]

My logic is similar, but the timing is different. I prefer to bust tail prior to buying the boat, because once the boat is purchased, it's time to work on the boat instead of working for money. In addition to that, for me at least, there's the 40+ hour a week commitment to making videos that get's added on top of the workload.

[@cometjockeydave4041]

@@Sailboatstory That makes sense to me, especially if you get any dinero from making the videos. Fair winds. I'm still a couple years from pushing off the dock myself, but maybe I'll see you out there sometime.

[@ld9725]

Love these videos. I really hope you all keep on making them. I know the work that goes into making them, so I hope you know it is appreciated. It’s nice to have down to earth folks like yourself on a journey for us to see. Thanks again!

[@Sailboatstory]

Thanks a ton. :) We really appreciate the compliment.

[@n33077]

What you held are divivders. The other is a protractor [some call it a compass]. 424's are very nice boats.

[@Garryck-1]

A protractor is the half-circle thing used to measure/draw angles.

[@bob_the_bomb4508]

@@Garryck-1 Protractors are also available in full 360 degree configuration

[@Garryck-1]

@@bob_the_bomb4508 - I'm fully aware of that. But there's no point confusing people.

[@Jeremy-km4dj]

hope you get it

[@kjohnson6159]

Love your adventures 😁👍

[@Sailboatstory]

Thank you 😁

[@jacko5668]

I'd offer half asking price based on POP yachts running up the used market prices.

[@Sailboatstory]

I was thinking the whole virus B.S. was the reason for the market spike.

[@allynonderdonk7577]

The Pearson 424 is definitely a solid boat. I looked at one just South of Charleston about two years ago. Unfortunately the engine was under water at some point. Apparently the deep bilge can cause an issue where you don't notice the water coming up. Then it just suddenly shows up and by then bye bye engine components. According to the owner of that boat.

[@Garryck-1]

Which is why *smart* sailors put a bilge alarm down there.

[@kubuli100]

Hey guys if your still looking for the same boat theirs one on craigslist Daytona area for $19000

[@Jean-Pierre-Villard]

Boats are never to big, only bank-accounts are sometimes to small.. ;)

[@tdoster1]

Rule of thumb to buy the biggest boat you can safely handle single handed and can afford. Everything exponentially goes up in price from slips to gear. Pearson is a great boat for the money. Good layup, no keel bolts and true skeg hung rudder.

[@Sailboatstory]

Indeed, there's a lot that we like about it, but a few things that concern us.

[@marcbloch1963]

Igel .....is the German Word for hedgehog...🤣

[@Sailboatstory]

Of course it is... I know that...

[@marcbloch1963]

Sailboat Story ....although your pronunciation sounded more like Swiss-German 🇨🇭

[@russgaulke1364]

Nice boat. If you are serious definitely get a survey.

[@paulwyand6204]

Pearson 424 is a really hard to beat value. For some reason the often sell for very little guess just not that much of a market. Looks like she needs a little work, so room for negotiation! Hum, she has her own mirror and her own companionway to sneak out on! Better watch out, she's growing up so fast! Boys will soon the knocking on the hull!

[@svrapscallion3291]

nice but im thinking keep looking

[@Sailboatstory]

We concur.

[@svrapscallion3291]

@@Sailboatstory im going to be single handing eastbound through the erie canals. wanna crew?

[@kingrandal01]

I got that pay tree on I’m under BlueVudu my first time so I hope it works buddy. From Villa Rica Georgia

[@sharonsunshine2532]

👍 Looks good 💛

[@Sailboatstory]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@edrosenberger6947]

It is not to large for your main home....if the price is right, it is just right....I like it!!! My goodness.....Molly has grown at least 6".

[@jamesbillington5058]

If you are wanting to save money, look at Morgans Out-Islanders 36 or 41. There are a lot of them on the market in Florida.

[@CheersWarren]

Not the quality though

[@knut8556]

I think 42' is good seize for a family. Defenitely not too big.

[@vivianbond7449]

Lol have a holiday and if you like it make him an offer lol

[@Steelshooter]

Holy cow, the lost is found!! We sure have missed you guys around here. You've been an inspiration to us to the point we are sailing from the Great Lakes down the ICW this fall looking for little islands and palm trees. Hope you are able to buy the boat of your dreams so we can meet you all along the way.

[@jasongrinnell1986]

I believe you have found a darn good vessel. Remember, happy wife happy life. 😂 good to see you all again. Oh! One other thing. That is a rather large cockpit. 😂 Cheers 🍻

[@peterbrown1295]

Did captain Q review one of these the other week ?

[@Sailboatstory]

Yep. The one he checked out is in better shape... except for the davits that seem to be designed for supporting a pool noodle.

[@18twilliams]

I think they are called protractors? 1 suggestion, get a survey! Though looks to be a very nice home!

[@seanmorris]

Dividers?

[@Garryck-1]

@@seanmorris - One-handed dividers.

[@Garryck-1]

A protractor is that half-circle thing used to measure angles.

[@rhirwin10]

Run away quickly and don't look back. There are major issues with this boat...my guess is it will require a new engine and new standing rigging at a minimum. Hull blisters? Condition of sails? There is a reason that the current owner stopped the upgrades as he realized he was pouring good money into something that would require even more, lots more

[@jefffrayer8238]

I agree. I just have a feeling there is a lot of hidden issues with that boat. Trash all over shows me neglect and my guess is there's issues below the waterline. The Sandflea was being lived in but never looked trashy inside. The difference between maintaining upkeep on the boat and just using it for a while.

[@amunderdog]

I agree 40 years of abuse, use and age. That boat is beyond it's expiration date.

[@fxpthl]

I didn’t see any solar panels and with your kInd of cruising they would be a must have. Also, a sink but no toilet for molly? There should be a head for her because a girl needs her privacy.

[@Sailboatstory]

Oh absolutely. Solar is a must-have.

[@jamescasteel2494]

So what are you going to name her :) ???

[@Sailboatstory]

How about "Not Ours"? :) We're passing on this one.

[@CheersWarren]

Watched all the way , so engine should be fine it's the Perkins based engine. Can be fixed rebuilt forever. ( but if you had to replace you would use a saildrive and eliminate the v-drive). One issue I see is that being a ketch not a cutter it's much harder/ impossible to fit a solar and or Bimini and Davits for a dinghy. So the cutter would be a better version. Lack of electronis does not matter most will be out of date or broke . Are those sails new or just the covers , that a $10k issue. It could be a nice boat but not for over $40-50k. True conditionis up to you so you don't get ketchup on your face ( like how I did that?) cheers Warren Personally for your sort of usage a 10-15 year newer boat with an open stern /swimplatform is so much more easy to live with at anchor.

[@CheersWarren]

Oops it does have a big Bimini but shade issues with solar😜

[@akllera]

Surprised a boat that size doesn't have radar. I didn't see any when you panned across the rigging. No chart plotter? It may need a bit of updating. You know the bigger they are, the more things cost.

[@Garryck-1]

It possibly does. We never got to see up the masts, or get a good look at the instruments at the nav table.

[@sailingwalkabout357]

Love my 424, if you have any questions feel free to reach out.

[@CheersWarren]

I read thru most of the comments and could not find anybody mentio. The KETCH OR KETCHUP, ! Am I the only geek that reads the video notes? It's funny it looks like you are in a tidal muddy creek in England ......

[@Sailboatstory]

It’s the only way I’ve thought of to gauge how many people read the description. Seems that very few do.

[@markberger5739]

Not too big, is it big enough to be comfortable 24/7/367 or will you be seeking hotels to get more space sometimes - & that can add up….

[@Sailboatstory]

I think if we didn't seek out hotels while on our 32' boat, a 42'er would be a safe bet.

[@bradmilano3717]

Spoiler alert, You’re in Sunset bay or Cove off Folly Beach near Charleston SC The Kadey Krogen was at Cooper River Boatyard in Charleston. I don’t think that I’m compromising much but you must just have people calling you out of the blue to offer their boat. You guys are great and I followed you early on and enjoy Ben’s witty sometimes sardonic humor. Can’t wait for the new boat. Happy sailing! Of course I’m several months late on commenting so that’s good. LOL

[@ceremonialguardsman]

Did you see the Irwin 41 that Capt.Q had posted on his channel a month ago for $35K?

[@Sailboatstory]

Yep. No bueno.

[@stevenmarrone1526]

Does that boat have the same yanmar engine?

[@Sailboatstory]

Same as what? This one has a Westerbeke 50.

[@stevenmarrone1526]

@@Sailboatstory oh nice

[@Pixxelshim]

Checkerboard shoes?

[@Sailboatstory]

Knock 'em all you want, but with a pocket-full of red and black plastic circles I have the luxury of playing checkers anywhere I go at a moments notice.

[@Pixxelshim]

@@Sailboatstory Hmm You landed on King's Row via a double-hump

[@kb1esx]

compass caliper; it's survey time!!!

[@Garryck-1]

More correctly known as one-handed dividers.

[@espirituviajero21]

KETCH & KETCHUP

[@darrencoile]

Long time no sea😁. But who’s the young lady and what happened to that little girl that was traveling with you.

[@vivianbond7449]

Try it before you buy it why not lol :)

[@markbernier8434]

That floor bothers me. Probably water damage. Where did it leak, above or below? Why? Why wasn't it fixed properly before it got to that state?

[@Sailboatstory]

Yeah it would seem like water damager, right? Strange how it's solid and nothing around it seems wet or rotten.

[@larrydicenzo3826]

I don't think it is water damage. I believe that top layer is a veneer that wears out and starts coming apart.

[@seanmorris]

The bit I could see that was still original looked different shade to the rest of the floor, I was wondering if it maybe just scuffed up worse (being around the table so plenty of time spent there compared to rest of floor) and the owners took it back to bare wood and never bothered to complete the work. Definitely need to know the what/why of it though.

[@hansjensen7823]

I think it’s too even to be water damaged, I believe the owner stripped and sanded it

[@markbernier8434]

@@hansjensen7823 I am certain you are right. The question is the underlying cause of the partial repair.

[@AlienX69]

Needs to look at Capt Q's latest post .... $24,000 GREAT CRUISER! Pearson 385 .... under 40' and 2 staterooms, hasn't been listed per descript till today ...

[@akllera]

Depending on a survey. I'd say 30k, considering the age of that motor and updating it will need. What's the draft?

[@Sailboatstory]

Yeah, based on comps that sounds about right.

[@curtissmith1967]

If you can find one in good condition (of the roughly fifty produced), you might have a winner.

[@bayardtaylor2990]

Dividers

[@Sailboatstory]

Marine nose hair tweezers

[@seanmorris]

@@Sailboatstory compasses for those without the confidence to commit to making a pencil mark on paper

[@glendahernandez4950]

YES go for it

[@Sailboatstory]

Just like that, huh?

[@iBradWatson]

It’s a lot easier to do repairs on a boat that everyone likes. No one likes repairing that boat that the husband said it was the sensibly choice. 😃