Pedestrian Causes Death of Cyclist Through 'Hostile Gesticulation' | Auriol Grey Case Analysis

[@tripledair]

As soon as I read the title I started speculating about what could be happening in a situation like this.

[@five12man]

Sometimes it be like that

[@tripledair]

@@five12man Karens gotta Karen.

[@mb5387]

Did you also not diagnose anybody?

[@DearDextra]

I appreciate that you are not diagnosing anybody here and only speculating.

[@tripledair]

@@DearDextra only speculating

[@tonyjeevar6565]

I know this woman. She came to our town one day and berated anyone who was walking and using their phones. She took it upon herself to police the sidewalks. It landed her in jail. I'll always remember her for screaming at me what a "little bastard" I was.

[@organicvids]

Dain bramage she has.

[@Tiglath-PileserXIX]

Obviouslhy, she had a lot of pent up hate.

[@joyandrews3804]

Yeah! I have to get out of the way of people looking at their phones. They aren’t watching where they are going. Then they look up and glare at you for daring to be on the sidewalk at the same time as them.

[@jimbonater]

@@joyandrews3804 Nothing a stiff elbow wouldn't cure, when I see people walk across the street glued to their phone they don't realize so are the people driving cars.

[@themythhunter9764]

​@cris-rj5zf she sounds like the ass, should be asking her, not him!

[@mariGentle]

The elderly cyclist was a retired midwife, she spent her whole life helping people for it to end so awfully, so very sad ❤

[@serasmiles2]

why does her job have anything to do with it. The peestrian was mobility impaired. The biker was on the sidewalk.

[@australien6611]

In my view she had poor control over the bike and shouldn't have been riding it in the first place

[@gavinjenkins899]

So it was a normally nice person who was illegally riding down a sidewalk being a menace in a road-only vehicle? Okay and? If I skydive into an electrical transformer, do I get to sue the power company as long as I opened an orphanage earlier in life?

[@berniefynn6623]

The cyclist CHOSE to be on the footpath, CHOSE to not look knowing it a busy road, she caused her own death, HOW does a WAVE BE CAUSE OF SOME ELSE DECISIONS?????????

[@Kyanzes]

@@serasmiles2 minimal patience/tolerance was all that was needed. But that woman could not muster an iota tolerance. An evil woman. The fact that she left says all.

[@cwspirols]

There are so many comments under this video saying the cyclist deserved what she got because she was illegally riding on the sidewalk. The judge in the case thought it was a shared use path, and also asserted that it didn't matter. 1) The path was 8 feet wide, and there was more than enough room for the women to pass each other. 2) the pedestrian knew the cyclist was on the path and was not surprised 3) the pedestrian took it upon themselves to connect or otherwise interact with the cyclist, whereas she could have equally decided not to 4) as a result of that connection the cyclist fell into the road and a car collided with them resulting in the death of the cyclist. I think this fits the definition of manslaughter. I agree with Judge Enright.

[@beaulieuc8910]

that is right, it was a shared path

[@BEATSofDevil]

So many people here are either ignorant or sociopaths, or both. They and their opinion don't matter

[@McDinglefart_69]

Half of issue is that cyclist is halfway blame for itself. She was an old woman and it seemed she had a bad poorly mobility. She shouldn't be on a bike in first place. I once saw old lady fallen off the bike because she got scared of my car when I turned. She was riding on side road, it was slooped sidewalk, bike was

[@anthonyjordan631]

​@@BEATSofDevilWhy do you believe your opinion matters?

[@nothanks1239]

I mean, I doesn't matter at all if she shouldn't have been cycling on the path. That's no excuse to push her into moving traffic.

[@MikeC1]

The one major point that to me appears mostly overlooked is she's lobotomized. Just because she can articulate morality doesn't mean she has the impulse control to adhere to it or the ability to predict the outcome of an action. In my opinion, her history of behavioral problems suggests she needs far more supervision than she receives.

[@arkbien9303]

My family is friends with a family who has two sons that have under developed frontal lobes. They are great fellows but lack serious impulse control and need constant supervision.

[@janethayes1728]

Agreed. She is not mentally capable of understanding the implications of her actions, and subsequent incidents reinforce this assumption.

[@OptimalToast]

One thing that does seem for sure, she needs more supervision for the safety of all, including herself.

[@TigerChic]

Agree! I also think that she walks around in self defense mode because of the bullying. Not because she lacks empathy. People who have to live with that disability often develop that self defense mode because of being bullied at school or whatever. It’s really sad that people can’t see that their mentality is not the same as ours. 😞

[@insaneconqueror5421]

Sad, but the family of the victim would not agree.

[@jeffharrison1090]

People often say, he/she/they will have to "live with that for the rest of their lives". A silly auto response, given so many ppl today, can careless of others. She went grocery shopping afterwards, didn't stay around, didn't try to help, didn't care. So "she" will have little to no problems the rest of her life!

[@mjowsey]

I thought that when he said it. We have no way of knowing what's going on in Auriel's mind.

[@mr.sinister9035]

depends on the person

[@noBody-ue6cs]

Yeah, she immediately went on living with that act in her life to the groceries immediately afterwards.

[@Pulapaws]

She care when the day comes where she in a government nursing home where they just as careless as she is. Glad she served time in jail even though it wasn’t the full sentence.

[@aaaduccs6667]

right..

[@xenotbbbeats7209]

Where I live, it's illegal to ride your bike on the sidewalk, but the penalty isn't death.

[@thomasrobinson182]

Riding in the street is always risking injury. I've been cut off by cars, crashing in one instance,- the driver took off - and having my hand bruised by the door handle of a car as a teen. That driver stopped, but I asked him to leave me alone.

[@jeffharrison1090]

I think most places have laws not to ride bicycles, mopeds on sidewalk. But regular skateboards, skates or usually okay although, supposedly, sk8 boarders are suppose to yield to pedestrians at all times. Well, we know how that works! Ppl aren't suppose to rob banks or steal either...lol!

[@SeanLain]

People die from making their own mistakes all the time, what are you even talking about?

[@thatoneguyffs]

If ita illegal to ride bikes on side walk ill need a bike lane minimum 5 feet wide and not next to the road where a car can just side swipe me and dip.

[@reymicroc]

Fy

[@snowglade]

She outright lied and misled under police interview. She fled the scene of the incident. Her wealthy relative 'persuaded' the court to overturn the original verdict. She should not be allowed unaided in public, people like this are harmful to other pedestrians. Imagine if the cyclist was a child with their whole life ahead of them... different verdict i suspect. Absolutely disgraceful.

[@superintends]

You do know the suspect has brain damage?

[@_BiologyMatters_]

​@@superintendsYour point being?

[@synastargamer1141]

​@superintends so if You have brain damage so you can get away with murder?!

[@jeremyjoyner9796]

@@superintends That changes nothing. If someone with brain damage murders someone should they not be removed from society? If someone with brain damage stands in front of a bicycle not letting them pass; forcing them into the road causing death, should they not be removed from society? Yes in both cases and even more so if the brain damaged person can’t control their actions.

[@GhostOfSnuffles]

Having the right of way doesn't grant you the right to put other people at risk. The fact Auriol causally walked off and went shopping after someone died proves she has no empathy after what she did.

[@carltaylor6452]

Perhaps - but she is mentally disabled, which may explain her cognitive inability to realise the seriousness of the incident.

[@sugarspice7768]

There was plenty of space for both of them on the sideway. She clearly walks right into the cyclist's path. She might not have been intending to killer her, but she certain did not care if the cyclist was killed or badly injured. Not to mention the trauma she inflicted on the unfortunate driver. 😢

[@KenTeel]

Good analysis. Well said.

[@MrBilly235]

@@sugarspice7768 The side walk is for pedestrians, the cyclist should have gone around the individual with the legally established right of way, the cyclist choose not to and Darwin stepped in and said 'buh bye'.....

[@acherontiaatropos6048]

@@MrBilly235 Cyclists are pedestrians and need to stay off the road. You must neither cycle or drive where cyclists are. Cycling in the road is extremely dangerous for cyclists as well as drivers having to maneuver around someone going 1/9th their speed. If they are ever actually banned from sidewalks then they should just not be allowed anywhere. Bye bye environment.

[@milavargas1031]

She walked at an angle -from her far right- as soon as she saw the cyclist. She wasn't gonna share the 7 feet, she purposely tried to keep her off the sidewalk. The fact that she didn't stay to check on Celia tells you all you need to know. She was happy she succeeded at getting one cyclist off the road.

[@skylark.kraken]

The thing is, just off to the right of the camera is a junction, at the time Auriol gestured the cyclist was actually on the road and the motion required to go onto the pavement required the cyclist to go to the side of the pavement furthest from the road and so she was required to swerve, Auriol's gestures made sense there was a cyclist coming towards her swerving while on the road and that she should surely stay on the road. She wasn't trying to push the cyclist off the side of the pavement and kill her, she just wanted her to stay on the road. I've dealt with so many older people who hate the fact that I'm not walking, they will watch me come towards them and they'll step in front of me so they can shout at me, you have to always go as slow as possible around them and give them space, and you've got to be willing to stop for a minute to let them pass. The cyclist should have been aware that she wasn't getting past, Auriol gave her auditory and visual warnings that tell the cyclist that Auriol is an arsehole and doesn't want her to cycle past. I live in the UK, and while I don't cycle I longboard (both push and electric) on the pavement, everyone who is riding a vehicle on the pavement recognises that pedestrians have priority and pavements are narrow - it doesn't matter if there is enough space for both of you, they can choose to walk in the middle and you have to be prepared to stop. The reality is that if someone 60+ is knocked over they could end up with long term injuries, there have been a few cases where elderly people have been knocked over by cyclists and have died, so there's a legitimate fear of being knocked over while also wanting cyclists to just stop to reduce future risk. There are some really reckless people, I walk as far to the left of the path I can go because there's often scooters and cyclists that fly past at high speed with no warning and they have brushed past me before, and it's been getting worse over time. I just understand Auriol's position well because I'm annoyed by how non-walkers on the pavement don't put in enough care like I do, and because I'm aware of the poor reputation I understand when people think I'm going to be some arsehole who will go past quickly and maybe knock them over. I wish the UK was able to have infrastructure for cyclists, I'd love to be able to skate in a bike lane away from both cars and people and I can go at a better speed. I think Auriol is a deeply unpleasent angry and hateful person, and from those who have come across her I'm sure they were hoping she was going to end up in prison, but that doesn't get you a manslaughter charge - but I would have liked to have seen her be charged with disorderly conduct, no prison but should stop her from going beyond recognising she has priority. Additionally, in the UK we travel on the left, Auriol moving from her right to be more central is actually opening up space. The cyclist shouldn't have been on the road side of the path but she went on the road side because there are lampposts on her left, due to the layout of the lowered curb the cyclist would have had to swerve from her left to her right. The cyclist should have stuck to the left, and either slowed down to a crawl or stopped.

[@peterziggyw]

@@skylark.kraken You are fixated on the biker's infraction. In this case, that is a mere technicality, because Ariel was in no imminent danger, by all evidence. Defensive action would have entailed the opposite act she took; she would have opted for safety by veering to the opposite side of the pavement. THAT IS WHAT I WOULD HAVE DONE. As Milavargas points out, Ariel clearly with intention, moved into a block position, even making physical contact, reaching out with her arm. All in a situation wherein deadly traffic was the only move for the biker. Had there been no car traffic nearby, it was still a fatally reckless action, to force a senior biker to make a sudden maneuver can always be a potentially deadly act.

[@timapple6586]

Where I live, a professional cyclist was killed by a vehicle and a law was subsequently instated and named in the victim's honour. 'Ellen's Law' requires that a cyclist be entitled to at least 1 metre of clearance on either side. Applying that standard to this situation, any cyclist would require a lane with width of 2 metres above and beyond the roughly 2 metres of 'wobble' that a slow-moving bicycle would have. That equals a full traffic lane, btw. Applying this standard, this 'shared' pavement in question is only 2m wide, and thus any encroachment by wheeled vehicles would OBVIOUSLY entail an intrinsic threat to the well-being of pedestrians. The grand irony is that under this law, cyclists are NOT required to give the same leeway to pedestrian traffic (..or at least, not until an e-biker smacks into a pram). For perspective, imagine if Celia had NOT crashed, but later reported Auriol's hand gestures and verbal castigations to police: Do you really think the authorities would/should have followed up on a criminal assault charge, based on the video evidence? Negligent gesticulation? Felonious profanity? I see no criminal intent here, insomuch as it might well (or much more probably!) have been the case where Auriol lost her balance and broke a hip ..and we all know the survival rate. Auriol reacted spontaneously, whereas Celia had planned her actions. So which one was the more callous and courted risk?? Again for argument's sake, imagine if rather than a pushy hand-gesture, Auriol had instead been holding the leash of a jumpy, irascible puppy. Exact same result. But then it would be patently clear that the only law-breaker was in fact the victim. Celia was an accident waiting to happen.

[@timapple6586]

@@peterziggyw You declaimed: "THAT IS WHAT I WOULD HAVE DONE". I'm suggesting that, if you're a normal person with normal emotional responses, then yes, this may well be what you would do THE FIRST TIME. Read the article and you will see a pattern developing over a stretch of time. It seems everyone else in the neighbourhood knew well enough to give a respectable berth to this one particular pedestrian. So odd that such 'respect' is not universal. Fun fact: In north america, it's called not a 'pavement' but a 'side-walk'. Not a side-cruise or a side-ride, etc etc. The right to safe, unfettered perambulation is implicit.

[@AlaskanHuzky]

She has the right of way, cyclist should not be riding the sidewalk, she has no legal responsibility to move to give way to a cyclist who is not supposed to be there. And all I see is her walking in a straight line, I see no proof that she got in the way on purpose. 9:44 (bikers should not be on a sidewalk, cyclist responsibility is to navigate around pedestrians and not the opposite) "The fact that she didn't stay to check on Celia tells you all you need to know."←That she has no legal responsibility to check for her?

[@livlong1686]

The fact that she just walked off to go shopping. Doesn't sound like she had any remorse.

[@bjmaston]

SHE WAS LOBOTOMISED

[@shamancredible8632]

That's like saying someone should have remorse after swatting a fly

[@redchief94]

What does that even mean? Are you calling the cyclist a fly? That's pretty dehumanizing.

[@starboard9551]

Remorse for what? Pointing with her finger? What's there to feel bad about the other person fell over all by themself.

[@ArthurB26]

​@@starboard9551 She reached her hand infront of the cyclist causing her swerve into traffic. Her irrational actions resulted in someone death.

[@joeyp1927]

If she were really afraid of being hit by the bicyclist, she would have moved to the side--as Dr Grande said, the sidewalk was 7.8 feet across so there was more than enough room for both of them. Given her wild gestures and use of expletives, it's clear that she was just determined to stand her ground and essentially police the sidewalk, the safety of others be damned (including motorists: What if the motorist swerved to avoid the bicyclist, and also got hit?) As a result, a woman lost her life. And what did Auriol do? She failed to render care to the dying woman, continuing on to the the store to get groceries. That alone shows that she cared not one iota for this woman's life and has no remorse for what she did.

[@danthesquirrel]

When my mother was alive in her last two years I lived with her. She was a horrible person and she felt she had to be the sickest person anywhere (but she would spend her days gambling or shopping). One day I took her grocery shopping and at the store there was another old woman who was using a walker. As we went through the store she obsessively bitched about what a show that woman with the walker was putting on for others and how she (my mother) had way worse health than her. Later as we passed the old woman who was looking at hot dogs my mother (who was now about 25 feet away from me) walked up behind her and without warning lunged forward and checked her right in the back forcing her to faceplant into the hot dog sections. She said "excuse me" and then walked off with a smile. The old woman didn't appear to be hurt (was immediately helped up) and we walked off. Just another in a long line of psychopathic busts of evil that she unleashed over her life. It doesn't surprise me at all that this horrible old woman thought nothing about killing a vulnerable victim. Who knows how many deaths attributed as accidents or unknown causes each one of these evil people wrack up in their lifetime. How a person does one thing is how they do everything. I doubt she killed just once.

[@jamieabele9239]

Too few of us are mindful that our actions impact others. Some of us don’t care. Sorry about your life with a difficult mother.

[@Alaryicjude]

So sorry you know people CAN truly be evil from such personal experience. Keep sharing your story though. I think it's important for the people trying to distance themselves from reality. Sending 💓

[@db44491]

So sorry to hear you had a mother like that, seems like you are a good person, i wish you well..

[@j3suisd3]

Thanks Dan, i really enjoyed your story !! Which is probably why i am on this channel. Also i am truly relieved hotdog lady was ok 😁

[@carpathianken]

My sister works in a nursing home & she says that dementia type symptoms make a persons personality go to the opposite. So the once kind & benevolent person turns into a bitchy witch that the family members are shocked seeing because he never showered malevolence in their lives ever

[@Andersonsdanish]

There are many people who need a high level of supervision.

[@JamieW-o7b]

Yes, and clearly get punished if they make a mistake!

[@jamiehammond7401]

💯

[@SJPuffnstuff]

" supervision" translates to rape, theft and abuse on planet Earth pal!

[@combatduckie]

yeah, in an asylum.

[@roadkillavenger1325]

A lot of them are here in the comments.

[@justincase3230]

You should do audiobooks of bedtime stories. You're not boring but I keep having naps halfway through longer videos cause you sound so chill.

[@dailydoseofchrist2688]

Swear I just took a cpl nods 😂😂😂 also it being 1am doesn't help 😴🤣

[@newunderthesun7353]

He has to maintain this tone to remain indifferent and neutral.

[@kylecain6685]

You can watch KZbin videos at a higher speed. I watched it a 1.5x.

[@LbabeT]

Yes, his voice is so calming and relaxing. I get told the same thing and have talked many people to sleep

[@judyferguson3185]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@robbyclark6915]

She straight up pushed the lady off her bike and into the road, causing her gruesome death. You can clearly see her turn her entire body towards the cyclist as she's moving out of the frame. The cyclist simultaneously loses her balance and falls into the road. That's a murder. Whether she meant to or not is beside the actual point. The woman waves her arm, tells a complete stranger to get off the fucking pavement, and then turns her entire body towards the cyclist as soon as they are close enough to contact one another. She pushed her!

[@vicv.2720]

I don't believe the camera established that any actual contact was made. The cyclist was not in control if she couldn't brake in time seeing the pedestrian (who has the right of way on a sidewalk) wasn't moving. The cyclist overcompensated and lost her balance into the roadway. tragic, but removing emotion from this case to get the facts, the elder cyclist contributed to her death by not being in control (the same way a motorist is at fault if they can't brake in time and rear end the vehicle in front of them, regardless of how "sudden" the front vehicle stops).

[@THIS---GUY]

​@@vicv.2720 she said herself she made contact

[@robbyclark6915]

The camera is under no obligation to “establish” contact. The video evidence coupled with her own testimony mixed with something called “common sense” establishes all I need to know. She has a history of aggression towards others on the sidewalk. She stated herself that she made contact. She yells and acts aggressive. Case solved. You’re welcome. How ridiculous can we be? How did we solve crimes before video evidence was available? It’s this type of ridiculous thinking that allowed this crazy woman to walk. It’s stupidity disguised as thoughtfulness. The video only serves to solidify an already solid case. The only reason she walked is because we have too many people nowadays who have no business making important decisions. Like the person who replied to me.

[@thebuonocore9818]

​@@vicv.2720you can see im the video ariel moves over to the side towards the oncoming bicycle. She the. Begins to make movements and yells at the bicyclist. Ariel admitted she touched the bicyclist the video shows ariel turning her whole body in the direction of the elderly lady this would of been the only time she could of touched her at this time the lady immedietly loses balance then falls in the street. You dont have to be a rocket scientist to figure out what happened. Ariel showed multiple times previously that she minimizes what parts she played so if she was willing to admit she touched the bicyclist then i would bet she did so with force.

[@john_hunter_]

@@vicv.2720 Well the lady does admit she made contact. The video does show the pedestrian moving her legs & shifting her weight towards the cyclist as if she's pushing something, even if you can't see her arm. The cyclist also didn't make any movements to avoid the pedestrian. They cyclist was on a straight path as they road past the pedestrian & was as close to the edge of the sidewalk as possible. The cyclist only lost balance after she passed the pedestrian & at the same time the pedestrian shifted her weight as if she was pushing something. I think the video & the evidence clearly establishes that she pushed the cyclist.

[@thomasrobinson182]

I don't ride a bike anymore. If you ride in the street, you battle vehicles, if you ride on sidewalks you deal with angry pedestrians. There's really no place for bikes anymore.

[@fredmercury1314]

To be fair, bicycles were an outdated mode of transport about 100 years ago. It's illegal to cycle on the pavement.

[@APOStLEpaulie]

How about, idk, bike paths???????

[@samuraiskill7062]

Ever hear of a bike lane?

[@Hawthorneheights888]

They’re called ✨bike lanes✨ if you and the other cyclists care so much then petition the city, especially if you live in a city that wasn’t originally built for bicycle traffic. I’ve seen an accident caused by a cyclist who was on a curvy 45 mph road and a driver had to come to a screeching halt behind him. They really have no place in sidewalks, as they are full of strollers and pets and need to be clear for wheelchairs. This lady was dead wrong but the incident would have been prevented with a proper bike lane. The city is washing their hands of responsibility by charging a mentally ill person.

[@reggie1847]

@@Hawthorneheights888 You must live in fantasy, those Bike lanes are even more dangerous, Cars treat bikers just as bad as motorcycles.

[@Intuitive_Muse]

To clarify, in the UK, it is illegal to cycle on the pavement. However, in practice, the law isn't typically enforced. In my opinion, we should show some patience and kindness, especially to more vulnerable cyclists such as the old or the very young.

[@pariacanyon]

Section 72 of the Highway Act 1835 states that bikes are legally allowed to be ridden on the sidewalk/pavement in the UK.

[@iciajay6891]

Were I live in Canada, it is ilegal for anyone over 18 to ride a bike on a sidewalk. For example, I was walking by my local library, and a man who was in his 30-40 was ridding a bike one handed on the sidealk and using his phone with the other. He was bikeing directly towards a woman with a newborn in a carage. I jumped in, and the guy hit me with his bike wheel a few feet infort of the woman. If i was not so furious, I would have got his details to report him. But i was just happy the baby was safe. He, under my local laws, could be charged with a few crimes. Assult ans battery being some. I have knowticed that it is 90% men who are obviously over 18 on the sidewalks in my town. And cuaseing the issues I see. (I walk a lot). Inthink we should have plates on bikes like with cars. To report issues. My town also y many bike lanes not part of the road and places for bike ridders. So there is no excuse.

[@upstateshenanigans430]

I don't like the idea of bikes on sidewalks but I really don't like the idea of children and seniors riding in the road, especially a road like this with no shoulders.

[@neilpook3719]

It is fully legal for, in the UK children to ride on the pavement up to the age of 10. No other age concessions are available. So a new law for OAP cyclists would be a great idea. In this case, the police could not clarify whether that particular stretch of pavement was a shared use cycle/foot path or not. Of course, if it wasn't then it would've added some weight to the argument. I'm presuming that there may have been some sparsely positioned signage. Probably in such a way that it is difficult to determine where it starts and finishes'. that pavement would've been adequate, by the width. I've seen some shared use paths where it was difficult to even walk past somebody so cycling was impossible to do safely.

[@EvenBigger-Brother]

@@pariacanyon Whoopsie daisy . "Cycling on the footway in England and Wales is an offence under Section 72 of the Highways Act 1835 as amended by Section 85(1) of the Local Government Act 1888."

[@spencershaw4419]

Auriol stated in an interview that she “touched her” … so she actually made contact with the bicyclist causing her to fall into the road. Any rational person on the sidewalk would self-preserve and move to the side if they really felt a threat. But I guess you just don’t know who’s missing a portion of their brain.

[@letsgobrandon6281]

Not. She said she may have touched her with fingertips. Either way, stay off the sidewalk while riding a bike

[@daphnejackson841]

Exactly

[@goblin-night]

That's a lie. Her fingers touching the victim did not cause her to fall, she would have fallen exactly the same if Auriol's fingers hadn't have touched while she was doing "move aside" gestures. The prosecutor's wording is crafted to be misleading as hell, and to make Auriol sound as awful as possible so people will even think of their own way to interpret in his favour. Dr Grande included a few of the prosecutor's doosies, he basically treated it like a "manipulate the jury" challenge to get a conviction on a technicality. It's not for nothing that Auriol's appeal succeeded and that the prosecutor was also outright denied the chance to retry the case at all.

[@whosaidthat9265]

If someone can cause you to fall into traffic with a fingertip you shouldn’t be riding a bike. Sorry. That’s ridiculous

[@maryfrancesbeckerhaggerty5353]

I got the impression that her shouting "get off the fu$#ing pavement and waving her hand intimidated Cecilia that Aureila was going to maybe strike her - causing her to lose balance and fall.

[@ThatsMrPencilneck2U]

I find this cut and dried. This was an old woman lashing out in anger, not caring that the bicyclist was in a precarious position. I cannot tell how deep her malice was, but assault is a simple threat.

[@The_Gallowglass]

The bicyclist went right for her. What are you on about? In England you ride on the left. Bicycles aren't pedestrians.

[@ThatsMrPencilneck2U]

That is not how the incident was presented on the video.

[@scottfilson5935]

She was "flinching" out long before the lady came close to her, and then she left the scene when the victim was hit.

[@Oakleaf700]

Grey is a cold hearted horrible woman with aggression issues.

[@stephenkalatucka6213]

At least she didn't do a celebratory "end zone dance," but probably had a sense of accomplishment.

[@Oakleaf700]

@@stephenkalatucka6213 The horrible old goat looked like she was feeding chickens {scattering grain} in the run up to the push.

[@sunshinemcwane6288]

Yes it's really disturbing everyone makes excuses for her inexcusable actions

[@aussiejewels]

It was a flinch-hit and run!

[@RullXov]

Do a video about Samuel Landis, the DEA agent that intentionally ran a stop sign. He hit Marganne Allen, 53, a married mom on her bicycle, and he now wants police immunity. He said he was late and needed to catch up with the DEA surveillance team.

[@carpathianken]

Now you're talking. I hope Dr.Grande does heed your suggestion. I couldn't think of a better case video topic for him to do & analyse. Personally, I'm equally torn by mixed feeling of knowing how important it is for the DEA to move efficiently on fresh evidence because it can literally mean months of work down the drain if they don't act before that fleeting window of opportunity closes & the suspect weasels out of it, but I also believe in driving standards & putting the general publics safety & health in jeopardy , especially in this day & age of having the many high tech communication options right at their finger tips , just to rendezvous with colleagues is unacceptable.

[@audreyquinn73]

As a cyclist who cannot drive, people seem to forget that the person on the bike is a person with family, friends, hopes, and dreams. Every day, before I get onto my bike, I say a prayer that I will make it home alive. Every day. I'm 51 years old, and in 2008, I nearly lost my right leg in a hit-and-run, but I was very lucky, and with physio, I got back on that bike. I love cycling, and I hope to cycle for another 25 years. I do hope that drivers learn to see to the person on the bike before being annoyed by the inconvenience of sharing the road with a bike. In fairness, if there were more people cycling, drivers might be more comfortable and considerate to people on bikes.

[@RullXov]

@@carpathianken Ya, there was no imminent danger to the agents, so no reason to drive recklessly. He should go to prison, just like any citizen would. He also should be fired.

[@kevinscott4081]

@@RullXov 👍👍

[@pinkdiamond1847]

The difference is he ran a red light which is actually against the law. In the UK it's against the law cycle on the pavement (sidewalk) But it's not really against the law to wave your arms around however The argument is that her actions directly led to the cyclists death even if those actions by themselves are not illegal and even though the cyclist was legally in the wrong to begin with. That's why it's more complicated here.

[@winterwoodcottage3657]

I was in Aurea’s corner until she left the scene. That is horrific to me. To leave a woman hit by a car in the street right next to you is callous beyond belief.

[@ChristophProbst]

I felt this way too, but I think technically, she didn't commit a crime. She seems like a terrible person, but I don't think she's a criminal.

[@rumchata6569]

Her heartless decision to leave is irrelevant to the accident and shouldn’t be a factor. The fact is the old lady fell because she had terrible balance and made poor decisions. She could have slowed down. Come to a complete stop. Gotten off her bike and walk. Turn around. Ride on the street. Aureas actions would not cause a healthy biker to fall onto the street. A healthy biker would have also made the right choices to not be in a position where they could become unbalanced and fall. This is a classic woman moment of “look what you made me do”. Zero accountability for making the wrong choices and having bad balance. Cars are expected to be mindful of bikers on the street. And bikers are expected to be mindful of pedestrians on sidewalks. It’s not Aurea’s fault the old lady overreacted to the hand gestures. And if the hand gestures were to bad, why did she not stop sooner. Aurea’s only found guilty because she was a rude person. But she’s entitled to be rude it’s her god given right damnit 😤 🇺🇸

[@amandajolu]

​@@rumchata6569 I agree to a point but she stayed in the cyclist's path on purpose and waved her hand at her, as if to push her away, knowing there was traffic just on the other side of her. That makes her partly responsible for the cyclist falling over into traffic. Yes, the cyclist should've stopped after seeing how crazy the pedestrian was behaving but maybe she thought she could get around her.

[@SoundsBogus]

It was a power trip, or in this case a power push. With a duping delight grin, the perp then went shopping. Somebody paid for her life of Misery.

[@evonne315]

Zero understanding for any accident or struggle the woman on the bike may have been having with her bike? Its like a car pulling over for a problem and someone being able to kick it back into traffic.

[@BlueVelvetBear]

Excellent analysis and summary Dr Grande. Very balanced and reasonable.

[@PeterDad60]

The pedestrian made deliberate contact with the cyclist. As a result of that, the cyclist rode off the sidewalk and crashed into the street where she was hit by a motor vehicle and died on the scene. Meanwhile the pedestrian simply walked away. The pedestrian caused the unnecessary death.

[@darthmcgee2216]

The cyclist could have stopped or swerved away from traffic and been on her way. Aggressive finger wagging!

[@oceana3070]

@@darthmcgee2216Could she? Evidently not.

[@skyhawk_4526]

The video is clear in showing the cyclist lost her balance and fell into the road prior to the pedestrian making physical contact with her. I'm not defending the pedestrian, who I do believe at least contributed to the cyclist's death, but to suggest that the physical contact is why the cyclist fell is simply false and contradictory to the video footage.

[@jamesflames6987]

Nice theory. But even the prosecution didn't consider the contact relevant. And very unclear if it was deliberate.

[@MrKanilammit]

@@skyhawk_4526 It is truly remarkable, the people claiming the cyclist was "pushed," or the pedestrian "walked into" the cyclists path. The video apparently means nothing to them. One wonders how the human brain works sometimes, and God save us if they ever get called as a juror.

[@wonderwoman5528]

Not only did she cause a life to end with no remorse, but the woman driving the car said she suffers from ptsd and will have life long mental health problems due to having been the person to collide with Celia.

[@shamancredible8632]

No. Bike rider ended her own life by choosing to ride on the sidewalk. And to use your own logic against you, it's illegal to ride on the sidewalks for the same reason it's illegal to not wear a seatbelt or not wear a helmet on motorcycles. You're essentially saying it's illegal to walk on a sidewalk while a bike is coming at you. You have no brain.

[@amb3cog]

None of us know for sure her level of remorse. Only she can know that. Especially with her mental problems. It's totally unfair to assume a person's state of mind with such little information IMHO. And the same goes for the driver. She can claim all sorts of things. But how do we know that she's being genuine? Maybe she's doing that for another reason. A lawsuit? Insurance? To collect unemployment/disability? This type of fraud is very, very common unfortunately. ✌️

[@rnash-shannon9304]

Remorse is irrelevant. Talking with your hands is a crime? You're delusional.

[@mikewillett5076]

So making a hand gesture made her guilty for the cyclists death? Really? What if a cop makes a move like that and the same thing happens?

[@bunjijumper5345]

What about people causing the death and suffering of thousands of animals during their lifetime to eat them? Does that count as PTSD?

[@BigDog366]

Those on here defending Auriol by saying 'it's illegal to ride on the pavement' may technically be correct. However, it's also illegal to protest in the middle of the road, but drivers can't just mow them down, can they?

[@Candy-O1776]

👍🏼👍🏼

[@mrstatictunes]

They can in Texas

[@matthewgibbs6886]

@@mrstatictunes and florida it encouraged

[@eveapple4928]

That’s an interesting point. However the vulnerable road user definition within the highway code flexes with the mode of transport. So a person on foot only will always be the most vulnerable, then cyclists, horse riders, motorcyclists etc then car and other vehicle drivers. There’s a clear heirarchy of who must give way or give priority to who. Your protestors on the street always enjoy protection as inherently vulnerable road users, but in the Grey case, Grey was the vulnerable pedestrian to the cyclist who should not have been, for that very reason, travelling within the space of a pedestrian because of the risk of harm she could have done to people on foot. If Grey had stepped out into the road, she would have had automatic right of way over car drivers as a more vulnerable road user. Hope that makes sense.

[@thevalorousdong7675]

Actually, they can. After 'protesters' started dragging people out of their cars and beating them, florida and texas made yall speedbumps

[@LP-yp8jk]

Okay, this is no 'Hostile Gesticulation', this is straight murder, she pushed the woman onto the road If her upper body movements are not enough for you to establish this look at her feet starting at 03:48 At 03:57 she pushes the elderly woman.

[@SlabSnipez]

No one else seems to have noticed this. I came to the comments right away but the only one saying anything other than “she pivoted her body” is yours and one other comment. And they were both made in the last day. You can see her elbow extend towards the road as she turns her body. She obviously pushed her.

[@rachaelb.]

Being angry at someone for one moment in time should not end in that person's death. That person is someone's parent, sibling, child, spouse, etc. I feel so bad for the family and loved ones of Celia. RiP

[@langleywallingford260]

"should not end that person's life" is what you meant to say, or "should not have resulted in a person's death".

[@feleciaclemons5074]

I'm pretty sure sure she said what she meant. Doesn't your comment end with the same conclusion?​@@langleywallingford260

[@OccultDemonCassette]

I don't understand how her being mad at the woman and waving her hands caused her death, though? The cyclist should have stopped and turned around or gone around her. Why would she continue barreling her bicycle towards a pedestrian? Doesn't make any logical sense.

[@Felbicky1]

@@langleywallingford260oh nice 👍

[@jamesflames6987]

"Should not". But it still might. Have you never lost your temper?

[@Brandon84J]

I sincerely believe she pushed her, not simply just touched her with her fingers. She absolutely pushed that lady

[@NicholasIstre]

Doesn't even have to pushed. Contact with the left arm or handlebar can cause the front wheel to unexpectly dart left, turning the bike to the right into the path of traffic. The woman even admitted to making contact.

[@slopsec2358]

@@NicholasIstre "...cause the front wheel to unexpectly dart left, turning the bike to the right..." I guess the laws of physics are reversed in England, much like common sense.

[@QueenBabylonnia]

She was rotating her arm into the left, she was walking dead centre of pavement, that thumb action is a command, a demand by her. To me I would say her anger made her push her when she came along. Touching with her fingers on that rotating movement, she definitely pushed her… Walking off, with the excuse she could hear the sirens…. Sirens would not have been there that quickly. She left the scene of an accident with no remorse, no empathy…

[@NicholasIstre]

@@slopsec2358 all two wheeled vehicles work this way. They turn by leaning, which is induced by initially turning the handlebar to the opposite direction. Everyone who rides bicycles or motorcycles implicitly learns to do this.

[@TheCompleteGuitarist]

Judging from the video, it looks like a push, sufficient pause and turn to indicate she 'leaned' into the cyclist somehow.

[@oneofthosepeople2101]

Crazy how a rule/law/ordinance can make people so inhumane or so entitled that life is lost.

[@Davehatessocialists]

1930s Germany and todays madness spring to mind.

[@TheSergio1021]

The problem with reading only the letter of the law and ignoring the spirit of the law.

[@oneofthosepeople2101]

@@TheSergio1021 1000% sir! 🙌

[@xpusostomos]

You mean, a belief that riding on the pavement is legal led an inhumane woman to drive directly towards a disabled woman causing her to fear for her safety?

[@anthonyjordan631]

​@@xpusostomosAre you serious? The "inhumane woman" drove her bike directly at her causing her to fear for her life? Do you know how unhinged that sounds? She should be in prison for WAYY longer than 3 years, and should be in an asylum for rest her life. The cyclist was just riding her bike minding her own business. Crazy woman moved toward the cyclist causing her to fall into the road and be hit by a car and killed. All she had to do was nothing. How is riding your bike down the road an attempted assault on a "disabled woman"? You legit sound as mental as the lady. Yeah, go grocery shopping after causing a death, really sounds like morality or a conscious.

[@joelhall5124]

No, it's an offence to ride a bike on the pavement in the UK, unless it's a designated cycle path. There are no markings there that it's a cycle path.

[@redeagle999]

I hate cases like this. Neither party was without fault and now a person is dead. Also spare a thought for the driver of the car. Such a tragic accident.

[@rosec6680]

She could see the cars coming, she's not that incapacitated if she is out walking. Cold and callous to leave and go shopping. Poor driver. She affected the life of two others with her madness.

[@sighthoundlady15]

@@rosec6680 my thought is either way she’s dangerous right? Either maliciously or due to her mental incapacity, the result was the same, someone died. What else will she “accidentally” do roaming free in public?

[@baldisaerodynamic9692]

yea, and that driver has to pay for it too, im sure no one else had insurance.

[@brick6347]

It's a shared space. Legally. Celia was well within her rights to cycle there.

[@eightw5783]

Best comment here.

[@ChristelVinot]

it's so tragic. imagine choosing to ride on the sidewalk to avoid being hit by a car, only to end up being hit by a car because you rode on the sidewalk.

[@isaudy]

Murphy’s law

[@johndrake3472]

Bikes aren't supposed to be on sidewalks. If you can't ride on the street, then you shouldn't be riding at all.

[@Notthecobracommander]

I agree this is a very challenging case. I believe she acted inappropriately however I do think accusing her of manslaughter is a stretch. You are correct as a former UK resident I can testify that there is a big feud between cyclist and pedestrians.

[@ChristelVinot]

@@johndrake3472 it's not that cyclists can't ride in the street. it's that they might die in the street. lol. safety trumps law.

[@darthkek1953]

It's called a "pavement" and it is not legal to cycle on in the UK.

[@fnumusic]

That’s a tough one. I teach my kids to ride on the sidewalk when no bike lane. But, to yield to pedestrians and just get off and walk it if there’s a confrontation.

[@marlenestewart7442]

Children riding for play is a horse of a different color than adults riding.

[@jennyhaslayer1396]

​@@marlenestewart7442 no one said it was for play, children have to get places too. Always ride on the sidewalk when it is not safe to ride on the road, adult or no, playing or no.

[@eddysgaming9868]

This is my understanding.

[@AntimatterBeam8954]

It's against the law to cycle on a pavement in the UK as far as I know from living in London. If you ask me I feel funny about that law given how dangerous the roads can be for cyclists especially less confident ones. Edit: Yeah I checked, it's backed by the Highway Act 1835 and it's under Highway Code Rule 64 In my personal experience, people don't care quite often. It's not a major law and police usually just say get off the pavement, you aren't allowed to cycle there. So one will definitely see people breaking this one regularly. Also it's not a severely publicised law either.

[@rosep8481]

It is actually illegal in many cities and counties to ride on sidewalks

[@AntileftTruly]

I bike on paths 60-70% of the time as a post woman but I always make room for walkers, either pulling closer to the side or getting off and making way

[@neraklrllessur8844]

You never know what people are going to do! She's walking in the CENTER of the sidewalk, acting like she owns it.

[@bombomos]

I mean. She took up the whole sidewalk

[@kevinkirwin3561]

Its a side walk..walk being the keyword.... its a footpath for foot traffic, if ur over 12 and caught riding on a sidewalk, its a traffic offence.. if your caught riding on the roads without following the road laws same applies

[@capolean2902]

@@kevinkirwin3561no cop is gonna stop u let alone arrest u for riding on the sidewalk, unless their pd sees no action or just bullies

[@kevinkirwin3561]

@@capolean2902 i dont disagree but they are laws none the less

[@elfenmagix8173]

Everyoene missed the point of Aurial having brain surgery and can no longer see on the right side of her placment. It is not a simple a covering the right eye and say she can not see the right side; it is the entire field of vision on her right side is gone. Keep that in mind. With the right side of her vision gone, she is walking on the sidewalk not knowing where the buildings, fences, doors, trash cans and other obstacles that would be on her right side. Thus for her safety, she is walking in the middle of the block. When she turns her head or body to the right, then she can see what is there with her left side of vision. Thus for her it is a necessity for her to walk on the middle of the block Think: Your right side of vision is blacked out, you on a clear area of your left vision walking down the block when some person on a bicycle is heading towards you from your left side. What are you going to do?..

[@androidemulator6952]

Have just viewed the security camera footage on other websites- shows a little more camera angle - Auriol pivots body to push woman on bicycle into traffic. A danger to society ! ;(

[@Rmstrjim]

You can see Auriol pivot her body towards the woman as the bicycle passes her and her body moves towards the cyclist just after the pivot in this very video. The fact that this was missed in the trial is astounding.

[@stellviahohenheim]

She can't ride a bicycle so she hates cyclers lol

[@tip00former1]

You also pivot your body to defend. You are clearly biased!

[@musikalniyfanboichik]

​@@tip00former1if she wanted to protect herself she would've flinched instead. not put her body in front of bike 😂😂

[@tip00former1]

@@musikalniyfanboichik No, you actually instinctively move forward to brace for the shock. Don't read any of the comments, it's all bs. If we had more actual footage it would be clearer what happened. Anyway, any sane biker should have stopped as the pavement was too narrow. I am from the Netherlands, I know what I talk about.

[@loveheals2475]

Glad you kept the snark out of this one. Sad case all around. The perpetrator’s mental disability factors in, in a big way, to her ability to foresee the consequences of her actions.

[@user-kl8lo6rj5i]

A disabled person should not have her safety threatened by a cyclist. Cyclists can cause injury to someone on foot, and need to choose the safety of others over their own arrogance. That said, Auriel could also have gotten off to the side to avoid getting hit. All very sad. I missed the snark factor tbh.

[@stonedcyclist6392]

@user-kl8lo6rj5i stop defending murderous Karens

[@spazmonkey3815]

I also wonder if her great visual distortion and social isolation contributed to this event. I may be wrong but people can survive 1/2 of their brain removed due to epilepsy treatment (or functionally, stroke),but when 1/2 of the visual field is wiped out so does 1/2 of their universe. This has been proven when patients of this sort draw a portrait of someone, they only draw half of a face . To them the other half doesn't exist. This is a tremendous disability, and may have contributed to her fear of the bicycle.

[@iffyangel3380]

She wasn't too disabled to LIE to police, leave the scene and own the sidewalk!

[@LisaKelly-k8s]

I like his snark, in other videos. He knows when to use it. I love his dry humour.

[@georgefarrington895]

Some people spend their life with a big chip on their shoulder. Which makes them dangerous. RIP ma’am.

[@murphychurch8251]

That's a difficult one. Personally I think that, while she does live on her own, it doesn't mean she's capable of living on her own and without care. Very often, people with disabilities live on their own just because there is no care available or nobody wants to be the carer. And then things like this happen and people say she's fully responsible because she was living on her own, so that means she can be judged like anybody else. She clearly is a lot to put up with and a danger for the community around her and should not be left on her own like this. Not for her own and certainly not for communities sake. I've seen several people that are left without care despite disabilities and that are abrasive and exhausting. One lady walking around my workplace frequently accuses all of my male colleagues of being rapists, walks into a nursery and makes a fuss because nobody is considerate about her childlessness and she is blacklisted in all shops around. 😕

[@davinasquirrel7672]

It is definitely a catch-22 situation. She probably should be more than in an assisted living situation, but proper supervised care is just not there. Brain injury is a difficult thing, dramatically alters 'normal' behaviour. Obnoxious yes, fully responsible (due to the brain injury), I do not believe so.

[@treydarr977]

That woman did not take evasive action. That woman was pushed towards traffic.

[@Domarius64]

You can see she has lost balance due to the interaction. She's not "evading" she's falling over, it's so much worse than what they're saying.

[@stellviahohenheim]

She's not guilty, the people who let her out is. Based on other comments on people who have met her, her mental capability is not all there. A woman died because her family don't would have enough sense either to accompany her or go buy grocery for her

[@DanielGregory-h5x]

The rider and the driver of the car had more responsibility to beware pedestrians.

[@Domarius64]

@user-hi5lz2ji9f yes but there's only so much you can do at 60kph and someone jumps out in front of you. That's why we exercise caution when approaching traffic, we have pedestrian crossings, and we teach our kids to look both ways. Many people have died by stepping out into traffic without looking, from an unseen location (eg. Getting off the bus and crossing the road by walking around the front of the bus) and the driver was not at fault because there's literally nothing you can do when someone is on the road unexpectedly in a split second, which is what happened because she lost her balance and fell, none of which is normal due to the crazy lady interfering with her.

[@treydarr977]

@@DanielGregory-h5x the pedestrian was never in danger, she was not crossing a road. The biker was pushed into the roadway. It was not a crowded sidewalk. The biker took the more dangerous path next to traffic and the pedestrian took advantage of it. Pedestrians don’t have a right to the entire breadth of a sidewalk. The video clearly shows that there was enough room for both the pedestrian and the bike. Pedestrian’s are not without responsibility.

[@madhatter329]

Oh my goodness I couldn’t believe you actually looked at a case which is 30 minutes from me here in uk!! Thank you dr grande

[@vivaciousom5347]

What do the locals think?

[@sapphirejaxxgh8639]

RIP to the person who lost their life

[@clayton56tube]

I'm a lifelong cyclist, usually sticking to the sidewalks, I think it's the cyclist's responsibility to avoid hazards and think ahead. I've also had people strike me and pretend to strike me (which is assault) and avoiding them is part of the responsibility,

[@Jeff-sp7bg]

You ride a bike on the sidewalk? That's absolutely asinine. Jesus christ dude

[@poindextertunes]

@@Jeff-sp7bgcry about it

[@Ja_Mes]

@@poindextertunesyou’re alone. Or your girl is not HWP. Prove me wrong.

[@powerhouse884]

@@Jeff-sp7bg No is not, specially if it’s a wide sidewalk with no pedestrians. Much better to avoid a Car accidents in roads that don’t provide a bike lane.

[@jeffreybrewer8649]

@@Jeff-sp7bg It depends. I am a daily cyclist in a large city. Generally I ride on the roadway, which is where I should be, or certainly on a bike path when available. There are places where the roadway is simply too dangerous to ride -- tight roadway with fast moving cars, open grids on a bridge, really poor road condition. At these times I WILL use the sidewalk, it is not normal, and at all times, I take responsibility when doing so. Roadways are constructed with the foresight for use by cars, sometimes there is simply a gap in the design that precludes bicycles.

[@tullochgorum6323]

Son of a senior British judge here. In my father's view, some cases are simply evenly balanced. This is probably why the first jury was hung. That's life I'm afraid - the law isn't always cut and dried.

[@bobdadnaila7708]

True that.

[@whosaidthat9265]

The odd part is I have murders granted what I think is called diminished responsibility in the UK and receive ridiculously light sentences. How was this woman not granted that to begin with considering her mental disability

[@JaMeshuggah]

British law at least

[@TheDramacist]

It wasnt even though, was it? I work with learning disability residents and they still understand right from wrong. They know aggression is negative. They know not to threaten people verbally or physically. Murder wasnt the intent, but to harass and bully certainly was

[@tullochgorum6323]

@@whosaidthat9265 Another thing I learned from my father is not to trust court reporting. There is usually a good reason for these decisions - the standard of our judges is high. These cases can last for weeks and media reports often leave important stuff out!

[@scottjohnson8576]

Looks like she deliberately moved into the rider’s path to make contact. She was the aggressor. Very selfish to purposely put the rider in danger and never try to make room.

[@PixieDizzie]

But the man showing the video said there was plenty of room for both of them so how could she not be trying to make room? Whether you like Auriel being angry or not, that isn't the cause of the accident. The bike rider needed to be careful while navigating a bike and the pedestrian has the right of way. Why can't you say that the lady on the bike needed to be more careful especially being on the bike? The bike rider was the one who needed to be more cautious because she is on the bike.

[@RD-ds2cc]

@@PixieDizzieyou are insane. There was plenty of room for both of them to pass each other, but the aggressive walker purposely was walking in the middle and swinging her arm, forcing the cyclist to fall off her bike. You can see she didn’t give the cyclist enough room to pass safely, when she could have.

[@bwabwa8810]

​@PixieDizzie Ariol stepped in front of the cyclist. She was pushing her toward the road. She sounds unhinged.

[@ditzygypsy]

@@bwabwa8810Well she has had a lobotomy and she is definitely mentally compromised, so really she isn’t fully responsible for some of her actions. Her mind doesn’t function properly and not having empathy is just one of the manifestations of her mental deficiencies.

[@ditzygypsy]

It’d be hard to say that she had no right to hog the entire sidewalk if that had happened here. It’s illegal to ride a bike on the sidewalk here. Bikes are traffic. Period. When you use a crosswalk, you dismount so that you become a pedestrian. And only pedestrians, wheelchairs, and perhaps scooters for disabled people can be on the sidewalks. Want to take your bike out but don’t want to ride with the traffic like you’re supposed to? Dismount and walk the bike on the sidewalk. Or risk being a part of traffic, riding illegally on the sidewalk and then hitting someone like I got hit.

[@Mississippicommunistparty]

3:59 she was pushed. Seconds you see her left arm come up the back of the bicyclist and is pushed you see lady turn right. Because she is pushed on the left with the walkers left arm raised and then points in the direction of the push with the cyclist veering the same way.

[@SlabSnipez]

No one else seems to have noticed this. I came to the comments right away but the only one saying anything other than “she pivoted her body” is yours. You can see her elbow extend towards the road as she turns her body. She obviously pushed her.

[@RyanCarroll-rx3od]

I have 2 friends that had strokes and it completely changed their personalities 1 had always been a very helpful person before that was always there for everyone in their time of need to being a very combative and only sees things from what’s best for him, it’s very frustrating to everyone around him including his wife that has been considering divorce The other one has become the complete opposite of this that is always there for everyone Head injuries are very hard for everyone involved

[@FifiR3]

So true❤

[@airgin3000]

Ryan == could you repeat and explain the second scenario? What happened to the second person ? Did you say that they ACTUALLY BECAME ALTRUISTIC?

[@davinasquirrel7672]

Indeed. Head injuries (in this case, large chunk of brain removed) can lead to dramatic personality or anti-social behaviours. It is unfortunate.

[@rosiesingleton6480]

I agree with your opinion 100% on this one. The only victims here were the older biker & the car driver.

[@christopherfitzgerald774]

Even though riding a bicycle is AGAINST THE LAW AND A DANGER TO PEDESTRIANS ? After all, pedestrians are not permitted to walk in the centre of the road are they? However, the "Entitled ones" such as cyclists think they can do no wrong don't they.....

[@hahna77]

​@@christopherfitzgerald774 if it was a child that she pushed into the road would you have the same opinion & defense?

[@christopherfitzgerald774]

@@hahna77 Hypotheticals are of no use in this discussion as no-one knows what the lady would have thought or done in any situation except the one that occurred, so stop trying to muddy the waters.

[@itskarl7575]

The driver is the culprit, not the victim. Had he been driving responsibly, he would have been able to stop. Pedestrians can cross or fall into traffic without warning - bicyclists can do so a lot more quickly. Not only did the driver _not_ slow down when he saw a bicyclist on collision course with a pedestrian, he was actually driving over the limit - 35 in a 30 mph zone. The driver was inattentive.

[@rosiesingleton6480]

@@itskarl7575 he is the smallest part of this tragedy

[@susanyates8038]

Whatever happened to “love your neighbor as yourself”? All these two women needed to do was say “good morning” and be on their way.

[@larrydaniels6532]

The officials released an incompetent person into an unknowing public, the death of a beloved wife, sister, aunt, grandmother, friend, neighbor was the result.

[@osirismaximus2787]

Right??

[@htmc2022]

Cyclist was endangering herself and everyone on the pavement (sidewalk). You should be able to walk safely on a sidewalk without any kind of vehicle coming at you.

[@JustAnotherConspiracyTheorist]

​@@htmc2022please explain how a bicycle was going to hurt a pedestrian in a 7 FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK! Are you stupid?, or just selfish like the old lady in this video? She pushed her into traffic and then went grocery shopping!

[@osirismaximus2787]

@htmc2022 I respectfully disagree that riding a bike on a sidewalk is wrong. Children ride their bikes on sidewalks. Should they be forced into the street and put in danger so that people can walk "safely"? Gotta think about it from all angles.

[@Saturn57]

She wasn't protecting herself, she was directing the poor woman to go into a road full of speeding cars as if saying "go unalive yourself for breaking the rules"

[@linneawhitaker1750]

Another piece exculpatory evidence is the fact that Aurielle is mentally impaired. That factor informs all of her behaviours. She was being accosted by individuals on scooters, teased because she is mentally impaired. I would say that her mental accuity is that of a 7/8 year old child. Her motivation was immediate, no mens rea. Plus the failed police investigation, which could not determine and gave no evidence to support the legality of the victim riding her bicycle on the pavement. The case could not be tried because the investigation was improper, and the court relied on conjecture, not fact, when determining the outcome of the case.

[@9inchsradius]

Irrelevant, a person still died.

[@cknut-rw2dm]

I agree. She cannot be held to standards of what a “normal” person would know or do because she was not a normal person.

[@alucard6919]

She gets the tard card. Google Chris Chan.

[@mEnTL32]

Agreed. Doctor is way off on this one, and the comments are staggering. A half-blind disabled person waved at someone and killed them? Give me a break. Tragic accident, nothing more.

[@Oakleaf700]

@@cknut-rw2dm If she's not ''normal'' why is she allowed out unaccompanied? Why hasn't she a carer to protect the public from her rages?

[@CatzAndCrowz]

There was ample room for her to move to her right. She caused the death of that woman and should have been charged.

[@JAMessinaJr]

Was there ample room? In the video, it appeared they met at a narrower portion of the walkway due to a post (lamp post?).

[@karl-niclas_burner]

She def sought for a confrontation and conflict. If I fear being hit by a bicycle, i will def not step infront of it.

[@PaulStevens-se9lc]

A: a pedestrian has right of way and does not need to move to the side. B: cycling on the sidewalk is illegal in London so she shouldnt have been there in the first place.

[@Fuzzira]

@@PaulStevens-se9lc Sleeping on the streets is also illegal in Britain so I guess I can shove the homeless into traffic as well then?

[@carpathianken]

@@Fuzzira You make a good point. Sidewalks are more than 7 feet wide, that pedestrian could have easily side stepped to let the cyclist past but, no she had to do the homicidal dog act & force the cyclist to her death

[@javierromero6858]

People with this type of conditions are MASSIVELY bullied all throughout their lives. They are always on the defensive. Sad story

[@itchynackers]

its not defense when you make the contact, and dont attempt to defensively move out of the way. you never played sports did you? if you had, youd know the difference between offense and defense.

[@nigefal]

Not completely true. The more successful people with the condition (CP) adapt. Those less successful go around with a chip on their shoulder.

[@pmbbmp]

Don't know laws there but in US it's required to yield to pedestrians. The cycle rider should have stopped and let the pedestrian pass. Instead she tried to squeeze by 190% her own fault

[@jeffreybrewer8649]

I am a daily cyclist in a large city. Generally I ride on the roadway, which is where I should be, or certainly on a bike path when available. There are places where the roadway is simply too dangerous to ride -- tight roadway with fast moving cars, open grids on a bridge, really poor road condition. At these times I WILL use the sidewalk, it is not normal, and at all times, I take responsibility when doing so. Roadways are constructed with the foresight for use by cars, sometimes there is simply a gap in the design that precludes bicycles.

[@billmartins5545]

Then you should decide to not ride your bicycle. Just because you don't feel safe cycling on the road or your vehicle isn't suited to the road, doesn't mean you get to endanger pedestrians. Get off the bike and walk, pushing the bike forward, if you want to be on the pavement. I'm a cyclist myself.

[@AlienLivesMatter]

Provide a bike lane ​@@billmartins5545 Postal officers deliver mail by bike on the sidewalk. Let's cancel the mail service if bikes are banned. You people are deluded

[@jean-baptiste6479]

As a cyclist I always had to complain about car drivers. And now I am into walking. Some cyclist are rude with pedestrians, as if they were car drivers. The human being 😢

[@skyhawk_4526]

Yes. Too many people are just plain rude and inconsiderate whether they are walking, riding or driving.

[@Alaryicjude]

Yeah, humanity is 🚮.

[@Zeepjeliefs]

I always ride my bike on the sidewalk to be honest, near my house. But I ride really slowly and give all walking people way. And if it's busy I walk besides my bike. It's just a very big shortcut. But where I live people are really tolerant and we look out for each other.

[@mjowsey]

The thing is it's only 1 in a 100 that are aholes and cause all the problems. Most People live and let live and go on thier way.

[@josephj6521]

@@Zeepjeliefsyou’re a great role model. I see so many cyclist abuse me to get out of their way whilst I walk on a footpath. But in this video, I truly feel awful for this particular cyclist.

[@bthomson]

The bullies from before made a mind set of grievance. Imo this is a part of the tragedy.

[@jayclark8284]

I feel the same. If this woman lived in Bali, she would not receive any bullying in the community, and her hostility levels would never have ramped up. It is a bloody tragedy all round and I feel for everyone involved and affected, including the poor driver.

[@natashamcmullen6559]

Was she actually bullied though? I think there's a more likely possibility that she was the bully People would ride their bikes, she would try to take over the entire footpath and she would refer to all interactions as bullying. I think she often tries to force bikes off the sidewalk and often shoves them. This is just the first time it resulted in death

[@jayclark8284]

@@natashamcmullen6559so you think a 46 year old mentally and physically disabled women hasn't endured a lifetime of bullying? I'm not excusing her from all culpability, but it cannot be dismissed as a factor... and she did end up staying in jail for a while. If you think modern English culture (and particularly its youth) could hold a candle to the level of kindness and empathy of the Balinese, you obviously haven't been here. My point is she never would have ended up that hostile living here🙏

[@miavos3610]

I agree. She was always on the defense.

[@28russ]

@xixi560 Wtf?? Are you trying to make some bizarre "butterfly effect" comment? 🤷‍♂

[@dgannon4]

I get this isnt in the states so it could be different. But i prefer to be on the sidewalk if there is one while on my bike. U can always just go off the sidewalk to pass and its a lot safer than getting sideswiped by a distracted driver

[@jamesflames6987]

Extraordinary how many people seem completely unable to distinguish between "I don't like this person" and "this person violated the law".

[@johnwilloug2717]

I think there's quite a bit of 'I don't like this person who clearly violated the law' TBH, and that's taking away from the sympathy that might have helped with the debate of intent....

[@dannylad1600]

Pushing old ladies into oncoming traffic is in fact violating the law here in the UK believe it or not.

[@Devi_Seona]

Hum isn’t killing someone violating the law where you live? Do you think that she didn’t know that making her fall in the traffic would probably kill her?…

[@elsajones6325]

@@Devi_Seona it seems that this person is not capable of knowing the difference. That's why she continued on her way, having no clue what she'd caused

[@jaymike3302]

A 77-year-old woman shouldn't be riding a bike near traffic. But Auriol is a mean nasty person.

[@kenn1936]

I don't know about this area, but in the UK there are many designated cycling and pedestrian areas - which is asking for accidents to happen. Not much chance of a pedestrian knocking another pedestrian over, but when a bike comes flying past you at speed from behind, it can give you the fright of your life!!! I have seen people getting knocked over by cyclists on these designated areas. It is ridiculous, but the local council designates the areas and really don't give a hoot about accidents (probably less accidents than having cycling on the road)!!!

[@sarawashington5485]

THANK YOU KENN AND WELL SAID👏👏👏

[@culcune]

Someone above responded that apparently the cyclist was allowed to be on the sidewalk in this particular area (it seemed like she is from that area). I did write my own opinion as well regarding what I call 'hybrid' cyclists who jump on sidewalks and then ride on the street and back and forth. I am writing from the perspective of the US where cyclists are supposed to (I was also taught years ago long before I could legally drive) follow the same general rules of the road as motorized vehicles, yet rules are rarely enforced against cyclists riding poorly or on the sidewalks. It muddies the rules in my opinion, making it just as potentially dangerous to pedestrians as rules expressly allowing cyclists to 'share' the sidewalks.

[@GlasPthalocyanine]

Cyclists are a dangerous mix with pedestrians. Let's face it the cyclists are the bullies in than space in the same way that they're bullied in mainstream traffic. Our neighbour had one of her dogs put down last month after it was injured by a cyclist that didn't bother to stop. If they're approaching a pedestrian or a child in a pushchair, the cyclists don't care because they aren't the ones getting hurt. They are much more respectful of the heavier powered wheelchairs, or a horse because they aren't confident of the consequences of getting things wrong. It's just selfishness.

[@sarawashington5485]

@@GlasPthalocyanine 👏👏👏👏Thank you for sharing. So sad about the dog and it's owner.

[@EvenBigger-Brother]

If they were right behind you were probably jay walking in the wrong lane .

[@MacMc691]

As a person that cycled for years, regardless of the law, both are responsible, it's a common sense law and it's about survival. The foot pedestrian saw the cyclist heading her way, which means she knew there would be an encounter and could of slid over to the fence and allowed a safer passage. While the cyclist knew there would be a narrow gap to pass, and as a cyclist you never assume the road behind you is clear, and you especially never assume the foot pedestrian will allow safe passage, so you get off your bike and walk around, that would have avoided the entire incident. I can only speak from my own personal experience, but foot pedestrians will sometimes slide over to force the cyclist to make a choice, veer off or get off. The cyclist in these encounters are also not innocent, there are too many people that I rode with or near that thought they owned the road, whether it was a foot pedestrian or a vehicle. Grande is correct about the long standing tension between the cyclist and foot pedestrian and it's not going away anytime soon, and probably never will.

[@angelaramsay1778]

best comment.

[@JB10008d]

Why do the courts allow these people on the streets? Then they let murderers out in bail also…on purpose.

[@MegaLivingIt]

Cross country biking has been my sport and as far as rules in America go, to my knowledge bikes are vehicles and we belong in the street with traffic and obeying the laws. If traffic was very dangerous for me, I was WALKING my bike on the sidewalk with deference given to pedestrians.🌿

[@samhilton4173]

Doesn't mean you can assault them.

[@judithgannon5642]

Same here. I was riding my bike as transportation for awhile as a 60 something. There were stretches that the traffic was too busy for me and I went up on the sidewalk--- unless I saw a pedestrian or one entered the walk. Then I stopped and walked it past them. Seems incredible rudeness as well as reckless to ride past a walker.

[@BlackJesus8463]

Don't you think its more dangerous for a cyclist to ride on the road than it is for a pedestrian sharing a sidewalk with a bike?

[@feleciaclemons5074]

​@@samhilton4173duh! I don't get from the original comment that they think they can or would..

[@marlenestewart7442]

@@BlackJesus8463 So it may seem like a simple question, but you have to think it through. A bicyclist is in a vulnerable position relative to the motor vehicles on the street, especially when outnumbered. But all the pedestrians are vulnerable to even 1 large metal machine moving at a speed many times faster than they within very close proximity. If the bicyclist cannot ride in the street, it does not give him/her the right to elevate the risks for the pedestrians.

[@kathyfugere6085]

Cyclist needs to stop when they see a pedestrian on a sidewalk. She saw her quite far to be able to stop without falling

[@kayleefox7016]

Agreed, I used to cycle in a major city in Canada. If you have to go on the sidewalk you dismount. This lady didn’t and she lost her life for her recklessness. I don’t think Grey is necessarily a nice person but to blame her for this other ladies death when that lady was performing illegal and dangerous acts with her riding, is absolute nonsense

[@senorpepper3405]

If the walker wanted this to happen, then the walker should be charged. I know it's hard to prove but she would probably have seen the vw coming as the cyclist came. I don't know, it's a tough call.

[@suerasbridge8494]

​@@kayleefox7016in uk you can ride on pavements, I personally don't agree with it, brought in by a useless prime minister Tony Blair. Some cyclists ride too fast, but this lady was 77 riding quite slowly around 4mph. They other lady had a history of abusing members of the public, if she was a danger where were her carers??? As usual care in the community failed again

[@Danni611]

I remember seeing this haunting footage a while ago. Thank you for providing an analysis and more info. Poor Celia, even if she wasn't supposed to be on the pavement by law, It is no justice being hit by a car to be her punishment. Someone like Auriol should be accompanied when they go out, but I know care services need better funding for this to be available to more people. I love my country, but our justice system needs a major overhaul too. Its getting like the wild west around here and it is usually ordinary people who are paying the price.😔

[@crawford1083]

May Auriol be helped to sue for reparations and damages for her year in prison.

[@RuthLinares-z9w]

I think both were lacking common sense. All the cyclist had to do was stop and wait for the woman to pass. The woman was charged only because the cyclist died.

[@vivelachocha2751]

True but there was room for her to go by. She didn't expect to get pushed. There would be no reason anyone would anticipate an assault and react accordingly by stopping or going around. If she wasn't assaulted she would have rode by her no problem. Meaning the average person would not make one of these reactions. The biker coulda woulda shoulda but did nothing wrong to deserve this. Riding on the sidewalk is illegal woopity do call the police maybe they'll get a ticket. But you do not put your hands on people

[@Uprising771]

this is one of the most heartbreaking incidences i have ever come across.

[@markadams8041]

The International Mountain Bike Association has the sensible and ethical guidance of all bicyclists need to always yield right of way so that there is no chance that other trail users ever feel afraid. As a 59 y/o man, I always either get off the sidewalk or dismount from my bike when I see a pedestrian.

[@YeeLeeHaw]

It's far easier for pedestrians to get out of the way. Imagine being afraid of a bicycle lol.

[@markadams8041]

@@YeeLeeHaw she's got the oppression cards, disabled, tough life, I believe safety then courtesy. You are free to be wrong in your overall analysis.

[@YeeLeeHaw]

@@markadams8041 oppression?

[@augustek5382]

Right, but the lady was 77. She fell into the traffic due to the entitled disabled woman not giving her a tiny bit of space on the pavement to pass by. The elderly woman did not realize that the woman in front of her was missing some parts of brain and did not expect that she won't let her stay on the pavement to pass safely.

[@sleepyrasta420]

I dont stop and get off I've encountered hostile people while doing that i keep going if they see me and dont move out of the way then they're dumb

[@nickf2170]

People have become so self entitled it promotes hostile behavior, callousness and the total opposite of empathy. You now see this type of bahavior constantly on the roads when driving. People are now driving with wanton disregard for safety or rules of any type. Aggression is now the norm.

[@bazyt1]

Watched the BBC report when this news first aired -- a cyclist goes right past the reporter, on the pavement...

[@agostinodublino1387]

I've read that in that street they are supposed to share the pavement with pedestrian- so it's legal

[@bobl1769]

Bicycles, except when ridden by children, should be on the road, if on the sidewalk cyclist, need to dismount. This cyclist was riding on the sidewalk at her own risk.

[@OptimusSatanas]

@@bobl1769 You have dumb logic. If someone rides on the sidewalk, it doesnt mean that any unlawful act that occurs to them is their fault.

[@CankleCankle]

@@bobl1769that’s stupid, why put yourself in the path of traffic when there is a sidewalk. People need to be more courteous.

[@Lily-ld7fn]

@@OptimusSatanas The pedestrian has right of way in those situations.

[@jasonmages4323]

Profoundly Sad nature of Humanity that anyone and everyone feels so entitled to not sharing their space with other's either on the sidewalk or the roadway. For that matter some individuals cannot even walk along side one another in a crowd without expressing hostility and unreasonable territorial insecurities. We all inhabit this world together, and we are all parts of a collective that is interconnected.

[@feleciaclemons5074]

❤

[@LotharKolb-n6m]

If one moves the video frame by frame one can see that the cyclist was in control and straight when she passed Auriol. The front wheel is straight after it has passed her. Then Auriol stops walking for a moment, her right leg makes a vigoros movement inward and her body moves inward for a moment (visible back not straight as before, but leaning forward for a moment), as if she gives the cyclist a quick push. Only at that moment does the cyclist turn the handlebar to the right to instinctively compensate for the lean to the right which was caused by the push. When the front wheel of thy bicycle enters the road the lean to the right of the cyclist is much steeper than a loss of directional control without a push could possibly have caused in this fraction of second. If she had steered to the right so quickly while going straight then she would have fallen to the left. She falls to the right despite the counteraction of her steering right because the momentum caused to her body by the push was greater than what the countersteering could compensate for. Never mind about the gestures, that happens many times every day, but she was obviously pushed, Why did the prosecution and the court fail to see this quick break of step and leaning over of the body?

[@jamesflames6987]

They must have seen it and come to a different conclusion to you.

[@allanbernabe38]

What is clear here is that Auriol's action was deliberate, and not accidental. Not due to any personal grudge, but due to self-entitlement. I'd say 3 years is way too short.

[@opium77757]

You know you're "hooked on Dr Grande's channel" when you jump on within 60 seconds of NOTIFICATION!!! Ceila should have taken a "walk versus a ride": if done so (she could have told her story).🎉

[@chrisnanopoulos9905]

I don’t get notifications for some reason. I do allow them and I am subscribed. It happens on other channels, also. I definitely don’t get all notifications. However, I do check Dr Grande daily, usually in the afternoon. I’m very fond of his style.

[@mangafq8]

😂❤

[@yucatansuckaman5726]

​@chrisnanopoulos9905 I read this in Dr grande's voice, my brain is gone lol😂😂😂

[@DamageControlLLC]

Hooked on opium too judging by the username.

[@chrisnanopoulos9905]

@@yucatansuckaman5726 I hear you. Lol!!

[@danielhurst8863]

Really, you think people are so aware, that a women, who is literally missing half her brain, is going to see the incoming traffic, recognize that pattern, and process it there is a potential contact to occur if the cyclist falls off the bike? Even people with completely functioning brains, do not make that calculation. You are asking for a level of situational awareness that the majority of people lack. I've ridden thousands of miles on a bike. I commuted via bike for 8 years, through High School and College. It's not as if I'm unaware of how people simply do not see cyclists. But here is the issue, it is on the cyclist to understand the dangers around them, she was on a side walk, coming up to an area, where because of the light pole, there would be little room to pass, and instead of stopping, she kept ridding, lost her balance and fell into the street, and she didn't keep track of traffic to her right. BTW, if I were driving, she would not have been hit, because I scan for interactions like this. Bikes on sidewalks are inherently dangerous, and bikes front tires catch curbs, and the person falls. Hundreds of times, while legally riding in the street, I've had to stop, because of pedestrians on the sidewalk, because the sidewalk narrows, and as a cyclist, you don't need someone to accidentally clip your handlebars. As a pedestrian on the sidewalk, I've had to waive my hands, exactly as this person did, trying to get the attention of some idiotic bike rider who is not paying attention and is about to run me over. People on sidewalks should not have to play the game of "bike dodgeball" in order to walk somewhere.

[@marlenestewart7442]

Love this. On the lake the larger, faster moving, more highly powered craft most watch out for the smaller, slower moving, underpowered craft. This rule may not apply in commercial shipping lanes or in the airspace over major airports. But a side walk is for pedestrians and the roadway is for wheeled vehicles.

[@AintImRite]

Under English law, a person is guilty of involuntary manslaughter when he or she intends an unlawful act that is likely to do harm to the person, and death results which was neither foreseen nor intended. Assault covers a range of actions, from using threatening words to a severe physical attack that leaves the victim permanently disabled. 0:30

[@foreversilver4208]

Yeah but she was riding on the sidewalk and decided to try and squeeze by a person instead of stopping pretty dumb in my opinion def didn't deserve to die but to say tht old lady killed her is kind of crazy yea she may be an old hated Karen but tht doesn't change the fact the girl on the bike did a Risky and illegal maneuver on a sidewalk next to a busy street ....

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

But is barely brushing your hand against a biker as she swoops by you considered assault? In my book thats not assault, thats low level battery, or touching someone without their permission. It was not a push or a shove. Certainly not "likely to do harm". The biker should have slowed down or stopped as pedestrians always have right of way.

[@amb3cog]

@@RaptorFromWeegee In my state, Rhode Island. Assualt is defined as "unwanted touching". Unfortunately I don't know the laws over there. But it may technically be assualt. Kind of strange they didn't use that to prosecute her though. So maybe you're right?

[@LeTon75]

Auriol is a lovely and generous lady. This indeed is a tragic case. They are both at fault imo. The only innocent victim here is the poor driver.

[@VoiceForTheSilenced]

It hit hard when Dr. Grande said, 'This could have been avoided if Auriol had *done nothing*." I was going to say “hurt people, hurt people,” but let’s be real… Auriol is a “Karen.” She’s entitled, angry, projects her hate and misery on to others and took away someone’s daughter, mother, grandmother, sister, friend. Haunting that we walk amongst these people everyday. Rest easy Celia, you didn’t deserve this. 🪽✝️ 🕊️

[@JamilaJibril-e8h]

This is fucked up....🤯 ..

[@solarralos7102]

This sounds like projection.

[@JamilaJibril-e8h]

@@solarralos7102 swedish boys like sandwich.....yayyy 🥳🎉🎈....

[@EvenBigger-Brother]

every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

[@feleciaclemons5074]

​How so?@@solarralos7102

[@-msssrhmrydy12988]

As a Brit, I want to give my own opinon. It's law, in the UK that states, unless it clearly has an official, designated "lane" painted on part of the pavement, riding a bike on the pavement is illegal here. Have I done it? Yes, lots. Do other of people? Yes. Does the law state that police should stop & pull over everyone they see in doing so? Yes. Do they? No. It's a very unfortunate case. I feel so bad for the lady who lost her life - particularly her family! However, Aurial was a mentally disabled woman, who because of this, was usually the target of vile boys/kids on scooters who thought it great fun & entertainment to mock her, tease her & taunt the poor woman. I can only imagine the PTSD this caused her. As much as I respect you & your opinion Dr Grande, I have to disagree some what to things. Her actions led up to the cause of the poor cyclists death, but could Aurial have predicted that by acting as she did, something bad might happen? I highly doubt it. Because of the torment she'd suffered, I believe, at that moment, I could see her unconsciously putting on her tunnel vision, wearing invisible "blinkers" & being unaware of everything else going on around her. It was just her & someone riding a bike. Did she need to cuss & automatically go on the defensive? No, but I presume she either done this because her PTSD made her prepare for the inevitable by putting up a front. That her bullies had made her come to loathe any bikes & scooters & that she was either antisocial because of this or probably even her disability. The UK has too many child/teen "gangs & groups" that spend most of their free time on the streets, doing nothing but causing trouble & making others lives a living hell & misery. The shitty government, house these nicknamed "chavs/yobs" alongside the elderly, vulnerable, mentally & physically handicapped. They (the government) wash their hands of them all. They do nothing to help & support those people, especially the most vulnerable. They (the government & politicians) are totally useless. None of them appreciate how life is for these particular people. Most handicapped people have to either cope alone, or, if they're lucky enough, rely on friends & family for care, support & help. If this crime was committed by a typically abked individual, who was "altogether with it " & a mentally sound person, then I would be outraged & would want the person to be locked away for a good, long while. However you look at it, it's heartbreaking. The poor lady lost her life in such an awful way. I also feel for the driver of the car, although, I'm surprised people haven't come for the driver too & accused her of negligence as they'll say that "if they wasn't driving so fast, the accident could have been avoided..?" I know that all actions lead to consequences, what with the lady loosing and her life! But, the offender was victimised & bullied on a regular basis & wasn't in control, nor, of sound mind! If anything, the government needs to pull their fingers out of ass' & give more help & support to the needy & vulnerable so that another repeat of this doesn't happen. Awful!

[@kitfisto1827]

being bullied is no excuse for bullying others. We don't absolve adult abusers simply because they were abused as children. That's a cop out.

[@arkbien9303]

I've been bullied many times and I have autism but I and millions of others like me don't do stuff like this to people just because of our disability.

[@AspienWaifu]

@@arkbien9303same here, I was going to leave the same comment 👍

[@olecranonrebellion9976]

Didnt hear anything about it being the drivers fault so......

[@BIAWolf]

Tldr

[@waynemurphy7394]

She was from a wealthy family , but lived on welfare ? There are a lot of things that contributed to the death .

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

The status or social class of Auriols family are of no consequence. Theres many different levels of wealth. Her family may have been decayed gentry, barely able to hang on to their old family home. Putting Auriol on welfare, which is her right as a special needs, just enabled the family to salvage some of their capitol. I'm sure they'd spent a fortune on her as she grew up.

[@davecarsley8773]

Being from a wealthy family doesn't mean you're wealthy. Your family is under no obligation to give you one penny of their wealth.

[@CanaryDiamond82]

It looks like she shoved that poor lady into traffic!!! That’s sad, there was no cause for that.. 😢

[@derek04151]

You can see her plant her left foot and swivel just as the bicycle meets her. She was also purposely striding in the middle of the sidewalk.

[@Oakleaf700]

She was! I cannot believe people defending this awful Auriole woman. She's a foul mouthed liar from her police interview with zero empathy for the people whose lives she has ruined.

[@JAMessinaJr]

How much room was there where the two met? Seems to be an obstruction due to a post. How much space did that take up?

[@user-zu1ix3yq2w]

This should be brought up in court. Why wasn't it?

[@chrisnanopoulos9905]

Here in the U.S, you’re not supposed to ride your bike on the sidewalk. If you do, you must yield to pedestrians. You’re supposed to ride in the street with traffic, if there isn’t a bike path. I don’t believe waving her hands caused the accident. I think the bike rider became flustered and lost control. The bike rider should have stopped. Auruel was an old, crippled woman. I don’t think she was going to hurt her, only attempting to warn her. My condolences to the family.

[@RepentImmediately]

She was 46 ...she looks much older

[@chrisnanopoulos9905]

@@RepentImmediately You’re correct, she’s not old. She definitely looks older.

[@BeautifulMeadow164]

@@chrisnanopoulos9905 and missing part of her brain.

[@Deploracle]

I never ride bikes in the street. As long as every driver is distracted by their phone I will not ride a 20 lb bicycle among them.

[@chrisnanopoulos9905]

@@Deploracle I usually don’t either. Honestly, it’s been a while since I’ve ridden a bike. However, if I did ride on the sidewalk (which I did occasionally on busy streets), I always stopped and allowed the pedestrians to pass me. I didn’t ride pass them. That’s too dangerous for the pedestrians and myself. I’ve always been on the side of caution. Better safe than sorry. That’s why I’m almost 60 and never broke a bone or been seriously injured. I don’t take chances when it comes to my body.

[@christinewhitehair6889]

I don't know, I wasn't there but it looks like both had the last clear chance to avoid an accident. Maybe that was what Dr Grande was trying to say.

[@ulrichraymond8372]

These things are usually ignored by the people till it becomes an incident. If she were emotionally challenged she should have been put away in a care centre away from town or atleast been under supervision when going out.

[@kenh6096]

Agree. She was either guilty of the death like in the first conviction or she was not guilty due to her issues like the appear says but then she is clearly a danger to the public as this incident proves.

[@trewdancetwentytwo2975]

I love Dr Grande and can’t believe he’s picked up this story from my home town! Tricky story this one

[@gmacka6333]

Moving your hand or arm in a non threatening way is not a crime.

[@SueEllenWestbrook]

Auriol's disability possibly causes her to be impulsive and she may not have the capacity to use proper judgment. Unfortunately for Celia everything lined up to be a horrible tragedy. If no car was coming Celia wouldn't have been injured and nobody would have given it a second thought. Dr. Grande is right. It's a tragedy all around.

[@shamancredible8632]

Another braindead take. How about if the cyclist was walking her bike on the sidewalk like you're supposed to, none of this would have happened? No? Right, you're lobotomized or something.

[@SEIKOAE86]

Ariel was a lovely and inspirational woman who should never have been put through such a terrible trauma of prison time and dragged through the court!

[@pucatomb]

Are you for real?

[@dyates6380]

LOL. I love the doctor's dry, witty humor.

[@yucatansuckaman5726]

NOT A JOKE!

[@up0820]

With that picture, I don't doubt you do.

[@tessaducek5601]

She is disabled and snarky. But i don't think she intended for the woman to die. Sounds like an unfortunate accident. If she delibratley shoved her. Then she would absolutely be at fault. Not knowing her obviously i have no idea how she interprets right from wrong. Walking away was callous. I absolutely feel for the victim and her family. And the poor lady that hit her. That has to be weighing on her.

[@LisaKelly-k8s]

I don’t think he’s no it’s weighing on her.

[@HypocritesExposd]

Her intention is not what is on trial here, it’s her actions.

[@tessaducek5601]

@@LisaKelly-k8s Probably not. Too bad. Jail is likely when she felt something. It affected her!

[@tessaducek5601]

@@HypocritesExposd She had to have intent to generate action!

[@Moodboard39]

She must've miserable and her disabled condition . When she died , she wasn't even thinking, doing her own business .... And angry at the same time ....

[@Jessrenee294]

I'm so thankful for your channel ❤️ 💛 💓

[@MichaudDaniel]

A bike is a means of transport, when you ride a bike you use the same lanes as cars. The sidewalk is for pedestrians and not for people riding a bike. The cyclist who wants to use the sidewalk must do so by walking next to the bike. The sidewalk is for pedestrians and not for riding a bike, this is a danger for pedestrians who use the sidewalk. The fault should go back to the person riding a bike.

[@willnill7946]

The problem with these cyclists is when they ride in the roads and don’t obey any traffic signs. At least the old lady was trying to avoid getting on the road

[@Piggelgesicht]

​@@pgs1796you're less likely to kill a pedestrian with a bicycle than being killed by a car on the road on a bicycle.

[@dustinmobbs4245]

Cyclists in my area have nearly caused me to wreck numerous times.

[@paultynan8705]

Absolutely

[@audralynn7454]

In many places it is illegal for people to ride a bicycle onthe sidewalk because sidewalks are for pedestrian use.

[@needtoknowbasis3499]

You say "they" as if it's a conspiracy.

[@CommentsAllowed]

Check out the Last Clear Chance Doctrine. Typically it's used for car accidents and who is liable. It basically says that just because someone else is doing something wrong, your duty is to avoid an accident if you have a clear chance to do so. Just because you have the right of way doesn't absolve you from all liability.

[@shamancredible8632]

sounds like a dumb as hell concept designed by people who were salty for being clearly and completely in the wrong.

[@michaelbartley9572]

He says I'm not diagnosing then always go on to diagnose haha love it Dr big.

[@MucaroBoricua]

Yeah, GUILTY! Put her in prison.