The ULTIMATE Compact Tractor Comparison!!!

[@PineyGroveHomestead]

I just spent two days with this man looking at tractors....and I don't even know which one he is going to buy!!! Tractor Hard! 🚜💪!

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

Cause HE don’t know! 😂🤷🏼‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@RareSense]

@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead lol lol ……you where like a kid in a lolly shop!!!! lol mate hard choices there so many great tractors, if only l could have been a fly on the wall listening to them do the sell… :). Thank you for taking us through the show it was magic stuff.

[@oakiewoodsman]

@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomesteadhahahaha. Well, you can always watch Mikes and my comparison again. You did look a bit cramped on that TYM backhoe I saw ya on. 😉

[@barry7920]

Kioti CK3520SE HST

[@tomm9860]

@@barry7920 Only way to go KIOTIO

[@hiddenacresoutdoors]

You hit the nail on the head when you started talking about engines vs emission control stuff. IF the tractor footprint and the economics would work then I'd highly recommend the 45HP TYM T494. The kukje engine is phenomenal when you start looking at the emissions systems simplicity. Simplified wiring harness due to a much smaller number of engine sensors. No ECU!!!!! That's a real biggie since you don't have to have a computer to work on the darned thing. I've yet to go thru a regen cycle on mine (T574 - same engine but with a turbo). I also have a LS 4145 and have had a couple of issues but nothing major (chafing of the wiring harness). It's just harder to troubleshoot these newer Tier 4 engines unless you have a computer and the software. The Kukje engine eliminates pretty much all of that headache.

[@kyleree6757]

I went through the same research process this summer. I looked at all of the 25's I could. I went with the TYM 2515h

[@TimeAfterTym]

It was a fantastic weekend and it was great meeting you at the TYM display to try out Tractors. Keep up the good work we love watching your videos.

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

It was a great time! Thanks for the kind words! 👊

[@wesleyellis4434]

I own a Kubota B2650 with has been replaced by the LX series. Never have an issue climbing hills in medium range up to 35 degrees. I also have a BX2380 and the 2650 runs circles around it. What ever you decide to get, make sure it has a 3 speed transmission. That’s non-negotiable. I chose Kubota due to the 0% financing, Awesome K-TAC insurance, dealer network, and reliability.

[@mercurymangarage6186]

Good stuff Lucas. It’s like building a pole barn or a shed. Go bigger than what you think you’ll need. The extra HP may come in handy as you grow. I do like the blue one. LOL. God bless.

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

I’m considering saving another month or two so I can step up one step in HP…. 🤔

[@oakiewoodsman]

@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead and the primary reason is to get up your hill faster possibly in mid range?

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

@@oakiewoodsman that really is a small part of it. I do need to be able to box blade up that hill (yes, you can pull it down, but being able to pull both ways saves a ton of time). I also have plans for some other implements coming in the future and a little extra HP would be nice for those.

[@oakiewoodsman]

@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead makes a lot of sense there. I think of my tractor as less of a tractor and an alternative to a mini and skid steer at the moment. My backhoe likely will be on most of the time. Maybe that will change with time. Awesome!

[@jeremyj612]

Nice job! I run a small tractor work business based on a 1025r. Been doing it over 3 years. I love the nimbleness of the small size, but I've never been able to properly brush hog more than an acre or two, when I do driveway repairs it takes forever because my implements aren't heavy enough to get below hard packed rock and pot holes, and a couple weeks ago I shelled my PTO system and broke the transaxle rear plate and I'm almost sure it's because this machine isn't built heavy enough to run the Baumalight 1P24 grinder as much as I do. I have been wanting a heavier cab tractor for all those reasons, but shelling all the gears, bearings, and seals in my PTO system form normal (albeit hard) use put me over the top. I ended up ordering the TYM 3515ch. I wanted a cab mainly for brush hogging and any time I'll stir up bees, but it's sure going to make the hot months easier and make tilling a much less dusty job. I dont' carry any debt in my business until this machine, but I wanted to pick one that will do all that I want it to, and I won't out grow it. I got a true third function and grapple with it, a wider box blade, and a 6' cutter. I'm sucking it up on one purchase, but when I objectively look at it, the increased work I (should) get will more than make the payment. If it doesn't I can always sell the 1025r and 4' implements. But one huge perk...having a machine here and one at the jobsite so I can still load/unload on either end without extra trips. That will be huge when I need it. Sorry for the rant, thanks for a good video!

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

No, this is great info! Thanks for commenting!

[@RareSense]

Lucas you are the man! Love your work. I bought the TYM T265 it’s 24.5 horse they are rock solid and also big in its class, what sold me on TYM was quality and known reliability…. But importantly it was the bangs for bucks for me….. ohhhh and my son reckons it looks like a Ferrari from behind ohh and red! lol lol, enjoy the show….

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

The red is sharp for sure! Thanks for the kind words!

[@kellywilson8440]

Fall time 2021 i was looking for a 25hp compact tractor and looked at almost every brand in person , I really wanted the T25 built by TYM but no dealers close by and didnt want a used one , I found out TYM built the RK series tractors for Rural King and ended up with the RK25 , No issues so far 180 hrs and the warranty is hard to beat imo and all options are already on the machine !

[@Ponderosa530]

Got the TYM 2515H a couple weeks ago and I couldn’t be more impressed. I have super steep hills on my property and in low gear, 4X4 and and the RPMs up, it will walk up just fine like a billy goat. MECHANICAL fuel injection engine without a computer……GAME OVER. Old school Reliability should be your biggest factor in my opinion. TYM for the win👊🏻💥

[@oakiewoodsman]

I love the blue color of the LS as well. Wish they would have made more sense when I was shopping

[@TheRustyGarageandHomestead]

Great job taking us along with you Mr Lucas.

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

Thanks for watching, Mike!

[@oakiewoodsman]

This show looks like a lot of fun!

[@csailor6925]

I’m in the same boat as you. Can’t make up my mind, but I am in south Louisiana so I will have a cab or I wouldn’t get anything done in the summer. I’ll be watching for your final pick. Love the channel

[@BuddyG54]

I'm not sure on prices at the moment, but an open station TYM 474 is around $25k. I went from a 25hp McCormick to a 48hp T474. It was a great transition and the emissions component is very minimal The tractor only has one computer, and that controls regen. We looked at our purchase as future proofing against needing a larger tractor ever.

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

There is actually a used T474 local to me that I may go look at.

[@kartkrazy]

Great video! Thanks so much for taking us on this journey with you. I have been shopping about as long as you. Started with a green one and was sticker shocked. Then looked at a TYM, and Kubota. I really like the insurance you can get with Kubota. My salesperson said it even covers stupidity (and I know it does because I have a friend who has used it twice over the years) I am also going to look at Kioti and Yanmar. I do feel that service after the sale is a huge factor in making a decision like this. Can’t wait to see what you decide. I know whatever it is you will be happy. Keep up the great content!! See you on the next one😎

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

Stupidity insurance has come in handy for me too. 🤦‍♂️😂

[@TripleTAcres]

Great video Lucas! What a hard decision you have to make. I wouldn’t be afraid of the Regen that much. Mine does it and it has never affected what I’m doing.

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

Good info. Thanks for sharing. 👊

[@livedlearnedDIY]

Nice to meet you at the show Lucas. Awesome guys and awesome channel!

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

Thanks, it was great meeting you too! 👊

[@aarondillon3880]

Lucas, my man, Kioti !!!!! Seriously, the CK series has 26, 35, and 40 hp. And also, while the TYM boasts a higher lift capacity at the pins to max height, the breakout force of the 15 series TYM and the CK series is within 200 lbs of each other. Meaning, from the ground to about knee height, you aren’t losing much at all in lift capacity with the Kioti and I believe the fit and finish is far superior on the Kioti. Best of luck and I can’t wait to see what you get.

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

This is very accurate analysis of what I am seeing. I think the TYM feels a little less refined, but it’s a brute. There’s a place for that. The Kioti feels a little fancier and capable enough. I wish I could actually run the LS for a bit.

[@garymeyer3294]

If you're staying in the 25 hp class, chose the one with the most engine torque. That's usually the one with the longest stroke. That'll give you the best hill climbing ability. Based on my search about 3 years ago. Kioti had the most torque per hp. Also, consider a 12 speed synchro manual transmission. That'll climb hills with much less hp loss.

[@graemetracybradshaw9871]

Mate, as I've said before, I love my Kioti CK3010. but the one drawback I find is it does not like working on hills due to the hydrostatic gear box. Have you thought about compromising and trying a gearbox with manual shift. Makes sense on hilly country. Regards from Australia.

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

I have! That’s really what I planned to do, but lots of guys keep telling me to go hydrostat. That is a definite possibility.

[@Rubenac]

I got the LS MT232 and love it. Nice color and plenty of power. My only complaint is the tires I chose but that has nothing to do with the tractor itself and more with me being cheap

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

So which tires did you choose and what don’t you like about them?

[@Rubenac]

@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead I chose the regular industrial tire. I have gotten stuck in 2wd a few times doing loader work picking up dirt out of piles. Came right about when I put it in 4wd

[@oakiewoodsman]

I really like my 4030C and the loader control location. Live having access in and out on both sides.

[@haggetthill]

They all make good machines. As a kid on the farm we had Farmall, Oliver, Long, IH and Ford tractors. My first tractor purchase as an adult was a Yanmar, my second was a John Deere with a Yanmar engine and I kept 14 years (both were used). I currently have an LS XJ2025, the price was right and I am happy with it for what I use it for. I would like to have a bigger second tractor as well. My tops would be LS or TYM and my local dealer carries both brands. A Yanmar would definitely be near the top of my list, but I don’t have any dealers close by. Good luck on your shopping.

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

I technically have a dealer close, but he doesn’t carry any tractors so that’s an issue…

[@mikerequa820]

Great video !! All those tractors are nice. Personally I've had 3 new 25 hp tractors 2 different brands mahindra 1526/1626 both very good tractors the Branson 2515 nice tractor but i couldn't get enough ballast on 3 point to even get close to lift capacity. Bought the kioti ck3520se shuttle shift with the 4030c loader it will lift whatever i need without ballast on back with loaded tires. Don't have any problems going up steep hills this 35 hp is amazing the power if it starts to pull down it's like a governor kicks in just goes right on. On paper is a lot different than actually working first hand. Yanmar makes a good tractor had couple year's ago. Thanks for sharing be safe good luck on whatever you buy.

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

Awesome! Thanks for sharing your experience.

[@lavonminiard5949]

I think those are all great tractors.. I bought the LS mainly due to dealer closer that I already had good relationships with! Course I was in the bigger tractor market also. I think your gonna be happy with any one of those tractors. Here something to keep in your head . My grandad told me once yrs ago about tractor buying. You can take a bigger tractor and do a small job but you can't take a small tractor and do a big job! Now that doesn't mean buy way more than you need but if your thinking you need a 30hp buy a 40hp . Sometimes when you crunch the numbers your getting a better deal and you're not gonna out grow it as fast

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

Good thoughts!

[@cedaroakfarm8596]

Check with your local Kubota dealer on their recommendations around the min 35 to 40 HP level, or New Holland (very good pump pressures and lift). Service is the key component with tractors, dependable and long term. Many of the new brands here in MO are here today and gone tomorrow leaving customers in a real bind.

[@dallasdavis3246]

kunbota is junk ls makes the new holland compacts so why waste time

[@cedaroakfarm8596]

@@dallasdavis3246 , not my experience at all with many tractors and RTVs. Kubota does not make the New Holland compacts, CNH Global does.

[@dallasdavis3246]

i said Ls makes the new holland workmaster series i didnt say kubojunk did Ls also does the cases as well

[@cedaroakfarm8596]

@@dallasdavis3246 , it appears that as I found CNH makes New Holland, LS makes LS, Cannot find any reference to LS making any New Holland, unless you can share. Sorry you had such a bad experience with Kubota.

[@oakiewoodsman]

I think of you go Branson TYM you still do not have regen right?

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

If I go 35hp, yes. The 25hp does not have an emissions controls…

[@oakiewoodsman]

@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead I am sorry, I was thinking the TYM was missing the it in the larger tractors. But I may just bring thinking about the simplicity of the engine still. I am telling ya, the KIOTI backhoe has some nice room on it!

[@Defender_Tom]

@@oakiewoodsmanyes, they still have it, but it’s mechanical injection so “deleting” it when it ultimately fails is a simple bypass job. No ECU to dupe.

[@johnberkheimer3142]

LS lift capacity on the MT226E is 1965lbs. Also LS and Kioti have a bigger dealer market than TYM. You may look at Bad Boy which is tym with more dealer market!

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

LS and TYM have about the same number of dealers.(~350) Kioti has a little over a hundred more dealers total in the US, but hardly enough to make it a decision maker. I really see things about each of those three options that I love. Right now I have the best price on Kioti. Final cost will probably end up making the decision for me.

[@johnberkheimer3142]

@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead they are all 3 good tractors. I used to sell Kioti and the only issues I saw out of them were engine failures. I saw multiple under 10 hours. It was hit and miss. I currently sell Bad Boy tractors which are TYM. Better engines for sure (Kukje) but hard to get parts for the tractor. LS is mostly now using Yanmar engines and (Mitsubishi) in the 26hp. In my opinion Yanmar would be my #1 choice but have no experience with LS other than selling a few used ones. Great video and thanks for sharing!

[@jeremyj612]

@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead Quick advise on price: you said it in the video, you want to think about your growth too. Don't get anything you'll end up replacing if you can help it. It's worth a little more money now not to lose equity and spend more overall later. On dealers, I ended up getting a 3515ch from The Tractor Yard in Oklahoma. They're 920 miles from me in South Carolina, but they've made a really good impression in Brock's videos, and they've been great to deal with on the phone. There was a local dealer to me, but they're gone. They were a small dealer with maybe 7 or 8 machines. I know The Tractor Yard is a long way away, but they can ship any parts to me and I like dealing with them so far. If I have to take it in to get work, I do have a couple options within a 1-2 hour radius. Not ideal, but after my experiences with John Deere dealers, which are admittedly everywhere, I don't think I'm giving up much. Let's just say more money doesn't necessarily mean better mechanics. I don't know that "local" TYM dealers will be any better, but I don't feel like I'm losing a valuable aspect either.

[@Jtwizzle]

There is also the tym 3015h and 3515h if you really feel like more power is necessary.

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

That’s what is in my head…. Maybe save another month or two.

[@RareSense]

@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead ahhhh l like finding your reply’s with hints! Lol :) it’s funny Lucas my dad always said to me if you think you need x horses in a tractor buy the next one up…. I don’t know lve been blown away what you’ve done with your Kubota. It’s funny reading all these messages and great videos, l happen to see a link to powerful horses showing normal horses and a single draft horse pulling all sorts of things there was a single draft horse pulling a Hugh semi trailer (tractor trailer) etc and it got me thinking we are all talking horses here but what horse? Draft or your stock standard all pull amazing amounts…. So to get it into perspective lm picturing now my TYM T265 with 24.5 horses under the bonnet BUT is that 24 draft horses and a Shetland pony l got pulling stuff around? Lol lol :) like what you’re thinking Lucus! :)

[@markpratt-f5q]

I ended up going with the Bobcat ct2025 (Kioti ck2610), it's nice however if I had it to do over I would probably go with the TYM 2515h. The Bobcat is a good tractor but I think ultimately the TYM is better. I liked the Yanmar, but they use a proprietary loader quick attach. It made me feel like it would be harder to find and more expensive to get loader attachments. If you want more power, I would do one of two things go with either the TYM or Kioti and once out of warranty turn up the power, or just go with either the TYM 3015 or 3515. If going with DPF, go with TYM they probably have the most simplistic design and electronic free. I hope this helps.

[@Dirtybay80]

I'm torn between the Bobcat ct2025 and TYM 2515h. The Bobcat dealer is in town and the TYM dealer is about 50 miles to a small dealer. Can you elaborate on why you feel TYM is a better tractor?

[@markpratt-f5q]

@@Dirtybay80 The biggest thing is the loader for me, it just doesn't seem to be as heavy duty. I've had to back off numerous occasions because I could see the loader torquing or hear it straining. Also when you start it, it clangs and smokes pretty bad. They've had numerous customers complain about it. I also had to replace the battery within the 1st year. Also every time I've tried to use the glow plugs it's killed the battery. Lastly it feels light in the backend, especially considering the rated capacity. Now I will say I still would take it over most others in its class. I just feel the TYM would have been a better fit and the Cummins designed engine just seems like it would be better in the long run. Hope this helps.

[@barney1941]

one thing that separated the TYM A2300 48hp mech. fuel injection engine. its in 494 574 and 474. go with 494 if near sea level. 574 if at alt. 494 2800 LLcap

[@MannistoCay]

Lucas I may be biased, but if you can swing a cab I'd do it. Good luck choosing! 👍🇺🇸🇨🇦🍁🚜

[@jhippl]

I am in the same boat, I have a 1 acre property on a lake that I plan on building a house on so I don't want to go too small because I'll need something to do some heavy lifting but I dont want to go huge because its a small lot after the house is built. Have you looked at Massey or Solis yet?

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

The Solis isn’t really big enough for me and the Massey dealer is too far away from me…. Good choices though

[@billgilkerson2816]

I have a TYM 2515R which is shuttle shift….I live in southern West Virginia and imagine my topography is close to yours…I stay in mid-range most of the time. I think personally you loose power with a pure hydrostatic machine so I went with the R model and while it’s not as convenient as the H model it’s still very easy to operate and you can shift on the fly just like a manual transmission truck. It is a beast of a compact tractor. Just my two cents from a neighbor in the mountains. Good Luck

[@mikewatson4644]

When comparing loader lift capacity, I would check the loader construction. Is the loader built stronger? Larger diameter pins at the pivot points? Thicker or stronger steel? Or did they just slap on bigger diameter cylinders and/or raise the hydraulic pressure to get the higher lift capacity? Just because it can lift a certain amount of weight doesn't mean that you should be lifting that much weight on a regular basis. Thanks for the video and good luck with whaterver you decide on

[@oakiewoodsman]

I didn’t go yanmar cause of proprietary quick attach. I was very interested till I found that one think out. I actually got quotes on a Yanmar Mini EX

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

Yes, they said they have a conversion for the European mount system, but still, I don’t care for that setup…

[@RJvidmoto]

What is your biggest concern with the hassle of regen? We take delivery of our first tractor later this week. It's a Yanmar YM347A. Not thinking regen will be an issue, am I missing something?

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

I’m not overly concerned about it. It’s just a simplicity thing. Fewer systems, less to go wrong. It isn’t a deciding factor, just something to consider…

[@RJvidmoto]

@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead Copy that! Big thanks and great job on the channel. I'm learning a ton from you!

[@philipirwin5286]

If you were thinking about keeping your BX, tractor and all of its attachments, I'm interested to know your reasons behind getting the next size up Tractor? I have a 33 horse Tractor, and I to want a bigger piece of equipment and in no way am I thinking about getting the next size of Tractor I'm thinking about getting an older backhoe that has forks with it. Just an idea.

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

I wouldn’t mind considering a skid steer, but I also have some opportunity to work with some other implements and such that will be a good fit for a larger tractor. Content is driving part of my decision…

[@ProductiveRecreation]

Lots of choices. For what it’s worth, the diesel particulate filters (DPF) don’t scare me. That tech has been around a while now. What scares me is all the electronics on the common rail direct injection engines, particularly for a machine that works hard and you want to last a lifetime (my tractor is a couple years older than I am and electrical will NOT be the thing that stops it, it can be started with a jumper lead from the battery to the starter and will run until you shut the fuel off with the throttle). From what I can tell, only the TYM/Kukje engines are not common rail once you go over 25hp.

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

THAT is a good point. 👊

[@robdavis9962]

Go with a yanmar 235 you will not be disappointed. I moved logs , cleared snow, and flailed brush with ease. Good luck

[@Luxurylogs]

Very good video, great job 😊🪵

[@Keith300H]

You need to look into massy Ferguson. They are great tractors and I think they game options for your needs. I have a gc1725 and love it

[@barney1941]

TYM 494 sips the fuel the 4 digit Branson models also have this. I went with 3 digit original TYM models. more features same engine

[@Tapthatsugershack]

Great stuff Lucas TYM all the way 😎

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

👊

[@DuncanPhyfe]

I love my SA425 - I'm always in low gear, I live in a hill with no flat areas (yet) ... The lift is great... Comparing it my brother's BX the loader control is not as fine

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

Kubota loader control is second to none…

[@DuncanPhyfe]

@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead stability on the hill was biggest concern & I've yet to feel like I made the wrong choice - the price is an incredible value (I wouldn't a yanmar grapple - I see those things bent all over the forums, CID for the grapple win) Thanks for the great context on both channels

[@RareSense]

He Lucas your Kubota had done it all day at 23 hp…. So 25 hp TYM would do it same same but stronger lift on front end, the question to ask is could you live with that pace? I love the TYM auto accelerate without needing to use hand throttle that may compensate only being 25 hp ……. $$$ for speed. Would TYM provide you tractor for review that would be a win win with option to buy Maybe????

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

Running that TYM I was immediately impressed with the strength of the hydraulics.

[@RareSense]

@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead yeah you where all over it, its looked good going through the motions lifting the log. I’ve been giving mine a real workout and it’s been strong, l was in rain and mud in low 4WD to get through and overweight on front forks attached to 4 in 1 and she did it, hydraulics were awesome it lifted it up onto up 1m veranda…. I was impressed. I’m very happy l got the TYM the supports been great. Funny, l ducked into dealer to see what oil’s recommended and to show me around tractor. They where so accommodating, they had mechanic show me around, even said that he hasn’t had to work on a failure with engines and there solid all round. It was the National Sales Manager that have worked with all other major brands that rated them comparing to others how solid and reliable they are, allegedly they’ve sold the most compact tractors in Australia… speaks volumes. :)

[@51sicboy]

I’ve owned quite a few tractors sometimes at the same time but properly outfitted I always choose Kubota.

[@drasus233]

My thoughts: Best tractor FOR YOU: TYM 3515H OR 4015H You could get up your hill fine with those..dont have buyers remorse!!!! Or see of you can get sponsored by Kioti! Kioti needs some more Love on KZbin and show their awesome tractors. Ck3520 would be nice!!!!

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

You’re right about Kioti…

[@dallasdavis3246]

right be a bought and paid for simp and when you say something they dont like they come get the tractor

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

@@dallasdavis3246 that isn’t typically how those deals work and I wouldn't sign with anyone who expects only positivity shared. Every machine has its issues.

[@dallasdavis3246]

@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead well some would and that only hurts the people that are looking to buy

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

@@dallasdavis3246 I couldn't agree more. It doesn't serve anyone to cover up issues.

[@fordmanfisher]

I live in central KY and I have a Tym 3515. I cant run it in anything but low rang unless its empy on flat ground. do yourself a favor and move up to a 4820 or 5520. this 15 series is also too narrow for kentucky hills with no ability to widen the stance

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

Thanks for sharing your experience. That is helpful.

[@jimallen6330]

You need a skid steer with a grapple to do what you need in the wood yard.

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

That would be nice! I have some other stuff coming in the future that I really need the biggest tractor for though.

[@johnburk9157]

The regeneration process is no big deal.get the biggest tractor that you can afford. You won't regret it. The best is the TYM. I had a 45hp and moved up to the 5835r

[@TheMonkdad]

Just something to think about: I have a Kubota L3130dt and a Kioti 3510chse. The Kubota has 1080 hrs and the Kioti has 680 hrs. I bought the Kioti primarily because of the higher loader capacity. The one thing I hadn’t considered is the added strain on the front axle. I’ve experienced 2 bevel case seal failures on the Kioti. I can’t say for certain if it’s correlated to the front axle design or fluid or something else but makes me wonder if this is the reason that Kubota is designed to have lower loader capacity. The Kubota does have a beefier front axle probably because its the Grand series but I think it’ll only lift maybe 1100 lbs.

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

Yes, that is a real possibility. With the high lift capacities, plenty of ballast to keep the strain of the axle will be important. I tend to believe that is part of why Kubota advertises lower capacity.

[@RareSense]

@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead Lucas the thing l noted with the TYM from my homework compared to the others in class was the weight due to front axil and drive train and chassis being over engineered and bloody solid even though it has a fibreglass frame! Both the mechanic and sale manager pointed that out about front end and lift capacity to competitors like you pointed out the weight of the tractor, l don’t have hills like you but l am grateful for,the extra weight! :)

[@TheRustyGarageandHomestead]

The 2515h i thing will pull your hill fine but it will have to be in low range like tony said.

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

Good to hear!

[@oakiewoodsman]

Yours sure made it up mine Mike with our two bodies on the machine too!

[@woodylittle-z3s]

I have a bobcat and a Mahindra both great units !

[@DonnieK-c4z]

The Yanmar YT235 would be my choice 35hp 28hp at the pro. Quality and reliability.

[@srsatlaf4730]

I think you really need to go 30+ HP to do everything you want now and in the future. Hill climbing, lift capacity and PTO HP for future implements. KIoti CK2035H, TYM 3515, LS MT232HE 🚜

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

I’m thinking maybe save another month or two and make that happen…🤷🏼‍♂️

[@beardedrockinhillbilly]

@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead I think that is a good plan Lucas. Getting up and down your peek is going to be an important need for you.

[@dhab146]

I’d get the Tym with the yanmar engine, cheapest tractor. Kioti is good . Yanmar and kubota are the best if price is no object. Service is what sells a tractor.

[@PopeyeKF4LBG]

My Badboy 4025 laughs at these models... 😂 Yeah, I like it...😊

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

Your Bad Boy 4025 is the exact same tractor as one of these models. 😂 I like the Bad Boys. That’s a great color scheme.

[@CompactNation2022]

I’m pretty sure the ls mt226/232/242 have yanmar engines as well as far as size I’d go as big as my pocket would allow not saying jump to the next size up frame but as much hp as you could prime example the jd2025 or the jd 2033 the 33 cost like a couple more grand but cheaper than having to buy another tractor due to not enough power in whatever brand you get

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

The LS tractors have Mitsubishi engines I believe. JD uses the Yanmar engines.

[@CompactNation2022]

@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead mostly yes I’m sure the lsmt232 and 242 use a yanmar did a lil research and the 226 uses a Mitsubishi

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

Gotcha. I didn’t realize that. Thanks for sharing.

[@Wolf6151]

Finding the right dealer, within a reasonable distance, is just as important as finding the right tractor.

[@srsatlaf4730]

I believe that you'll be glad you waited a bit and went bigger. 😉

[@BombsAwayLP]

Got my tym 2515 yesterday

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

Congrats!

[@sparky11772]

Good morning Lucas

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

Good morning!

[@comlbbeau]

I sense that Kubota is probably out of the running. Even though I have owned (and currently own) three Kubotas since 1996, depending on your dealer availability, you probably will be well served by Kioti or TYM. It may be frustrating, but in reality it is nice to have such a difficult choice to make among such good equipment.

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

My local dealer is the only reason I would still consider Kubota, but price is a major factor. I can’t spend an extra $6-8k just because I like the local dealer. It’s worth something for sure…I don’t think it’s worth $8k.

[@jayhuyssoon9486]

I am going to throw sand in the ointment, I purchased a NH WM25S with a mechanical thumb for backhoe, a landscape rake, a rotor tiller, a box blade,, and a rear mounted gin pole for less money than a comparable green or orange LTB. I have the mental “dam“ against the regen, because I also have a 2008F350 diesel that chooses the time when I am in San Francisco Bay Area commute traffic or on back roads when my truck decides to tell me to maintain freeway speeds so it will clean the filter. Additionally, regen ruins your tractor engine…after 7500 hours…probably not a problem for the majority of your audience. One of my deciding factors for the New Holland is my dealer is 14 miles away. Is one to seven more horse power worth $30K or more, is breakneck speed imperative in the hills of eastern Kentucky? I have family that lives near Hindman, flatlanders don’t have an inkling what hills are until you been in the “hollers” in that area…lol. Back to the point of the first sentence of this paragraph, when figuring out the cost of the tractor to give you the extra HP or speed, factor in the costs of the new implements to fit your new tractor. I apologize if this throws water on your parade, I have felt the exhilaration of driving fire service engines and aerial ladders “code 3” through traffic like a mounted cavalier, or driving my command vehicle in excess of 100 MPH, just because I could (this is an exercise that was against District policy with huge repercussions), I have slowed down considerably, both my tractor and my vintage 453 Bobcat Skidsteer, “balls to the wall” are about 7 MPH max. I apologize if your CFO reads this and puts a damper on you spending her “egg money,” then switches to her CEO mode and makes you save a little longer. If you are like me, I tell my wife that sine I wear the pants in the family, I will make the decisions…if I want to wash dishes before I vacuum or take out the garbage, that will be my decision. I will stop inconveniencing electrons and close. I greatly enjoy your videos.

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

😂🤣👊

[@JohnfromEngland]

TYM but go up a size from 25

[@1958johndeere620]

Its time the tractor companies take another look at gas engine options. Just to get rid of the emission crap. As far as hills even my Kubota M7060 slows down on hard hills. I have to downshift 2 or 3 gears just driving up hills on tar roads. My 3 .5 yard case loader with a 6.7 Cummins even slows down by half on hard hills.

[@HalBarnett]

What tractor did you decide on?

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJbImmWYaLl5eqssi=oM41otbZq-xMyYJW

[@nrobinson7951]

Hi Lucas, all I can say is, keep praying about it.

[@edboley4724]

If only you knew someone who could address such questions and concerns lol.....for example, if you're going to step up to an emission tractor, go closer to 40 than 30, choking down a 32 horse tractor with emissions feels oddly similar to a 25 horse without it, regardless of what some chart shows...who knew?!? Also, don't worry about low range, I'd recommend it on our terrain even with 60 horses, that's what its for, not like it's an event or a hassle to move a lever 3 inches. OH!!!!! just got an L4802 in, talk about room to grow.

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

I love it! Thanks for jumping in. Get those corporate heads to pitch in and get their machine in my price range, Brother! 👊

[@edboley4724]

​@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead I think a dealer willing to bend over backwards to keep their customers going is worth more than most people realize.

[@barney1941]

hard lines all the way to bucket for 3rd func

[@bartonmd]

For what it's worth, even our 3046R with a bucket of rock and a 1300# ballast box won't go up our 20% grade driveway very well in high range.

[@NYTROeast]

TYM. Step up a size cause it doesn't matter what manufacturer you go with a 25HP is not going to give you the performance you want on the hill so why not step up a little and get all can get in lift capability you can.

[@roadglide1142]

Go with what has worked almost flawlessly for you over the years and is better quality! Kubota! All the others will honestly be questionable if they will even be around in 5-10 years ! Dealer network is better than the rest also ! That’s huge ! It’s your money spend it wisely! Cheaper is cheaper for a reason! Remember the Old Fram commercial? “ You can Pay Me Now or you can Pay Me Later .” 😂

[@nippinkoi8924]

Get biggest hp u can afford especially if ur updating later on with implements

[@briandriscoll2240]

I am going to second what buddyG54 said and add this. Nearly all of the makers are making quality products. It gets harder and harder to find anything big that separates the manufacturers. Lift capacity is a big one and you already have that identified. But here is another. TYM is using the Kukje engine in the 40-59hp range and it is the only mechanical diesel engine that will start and run without any electronic controls, sensors, or computers in tractors of the size you are interested in. This simplicity is a big deal, particularly after the warranty is gone. You won’t be as hostage to the dealer computers (and big dealer labor rates) for numerous resolutions to problems because computers are not needed for diagnosis and troubleshooting. I have the TYM 474 and I’m doing a lot of mid to low rpm work (backhoe for low, excavation for mid). This would of course guarantee that I would have the need for regen. But the regen was easy, automated and done. And the regen system itself is problem free and causing no issues with tractor function or performance. Buy bigger (and not just a little bigger) so you aren’t facing a conundrum and having to buy again soon. And with TYM price points, you can get way more tractor for the same price in many cases. Good luck.

[@briandriscoll2240]

I suppose I failed to mention the biggest benefit of the Kukje engine of all. Because it doesn’t have all the chip-loaded computer logic boards, wires and hundreds of associated sensors, all of those items are therefore not present as ghost failure points that, again, require dealers computers and software to resolve.

[@barney1941]

my 494 has not done a Regen and I'm at 91 hours. one Regen a year or less for me

[@johndenver8574]

Personally in my opinion I'd go with Kubota.

[@jtreedog409]

maybe a used tractor might fit your needs might find a bigger tractor with more hp and maybe save some money ?

[@fordmodela1281]

All of these tractors manufacture with today's technology, engineering and durability designs are very competitive. 60% of the market sits with JD and Kubota. You are looking at the remaining 40% and 1 or 2 of these 40% will leave the US market in 7-10 years. Who is trying the hardest to remain here? Great question for your audience. Think about their investments into new engineering improvements and customer support (service locations, parts distribution, sales). With that said 90% of a tractor purchase is dealer support. Choose the tractor that meets your current needs (lift & hills) and if the future needs are somewhat tangible, add or verify those requirements have matched your selections. I'm in the same boat for my pending purchase and don't let $5k - $7k in pricing concern yourself if you are adding in future capacity and functions. Plus selecting a tractor with Tier 2 emissions standards is not a big jump into those problem areas. My summary: 90% - is the dealer that matches your needs (tractor requirements, support, sales, friendly) and that also includes will they keep the manufacture for the long term. 5% - are you excited about your purchase. 5% - is the wife also happy. Like the videos - thank you BTW, I also like the color blue and the number 32 - take care

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

Great thoughts!

[@tomm9860]

Many people here in Maine have bought TYM tractors and there is no service what so every on them, and other shop don't want t service them because they can't even get parts for them All they do is sell them, then you're on your own. Go orange the one from South Korea. No regrets. We can't afford the other orange one or the Greens that are leaving the country. The other RED tractor is shutting down here dealerships around the state,

[@dub537h]

Good information, thanks!

[@kendrury3713]

All the hype about Kioti intrigued me, went to test a comparable model to my NH Boomer. Walked away very disappointed.

[@barney1941]

494 is under 30k with rimguard and 3rd function

[@johnr5545]

Have fun god bless

[@barney1941]

get TYM from Larry stovesand no tax at your door around 30k easy engine to work on

[@barney1941]

A2300 only regens 1 or 2 times in 300 hours

[@Toolman9mm]

Kioti 2520, or 3520.

[@jessestone9117]

Tym

[@Pat2317]

Buy the Kioti. There, I made the decision easier for you 🤪

[@toddd5703]

Stick with Kubota if you want quality. The other brands may lift more but my personal experience has been the more you lift, the more you bent and break these less expensive tractors and they do not stand behind there products , they have poor warranty and customer services and you will be left with thousands of dollars in parts and repair bills.

[@melaniekeen3611]

We bought a Tym 474CH bc of Tonys Tractor Adventures Stoney Ridge Farmer and Hank Hamilton

[@martinmajor5326]

Go with 30hp or more you wont regret it

[@jeffsmith350]

TYM is the best

[@CentralNH]

If I had to pick 3 🤔🤔🤔 KIOTI KIOTI AND KIOTI 👍

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

😂 But which of those 3 is your favorite?

[@Vermont_EarthWork]

Just because a tractor is rated to lift more than competitors doesn't mean you should and do it safely.

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

The 2515 weighs 1200lb more than the L2502. It makes perfect sense that it is capable to safely lift a lot more weight.

[@charlesreed6404]

I bought the Kioti CK3510SE about 2 years ago. The worst purchasing decision I have even made in my 57 years. I had so many issues in my first 1.5 years I would have better off driving in to a scrap yard. Plus over th top horrible dealer buisness model, unprofessional people, with no backing from Kioti. I have a very detailed list if you care to know what I dealt with. Don't be fooled by their low cost high feature stats. If I knew then what I know now, TYM is where I would put my money. My neighbor bought a TYM and it is the real deal.

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

Wow! Thanks for sharing. I haven’t heard that many serious complaints about Kioti. That’s a shame…

[@jimsmith6816]

Gear drive

[@MarySpicer-t7o]

tym

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

Lots of reasons to go Red! 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@rcguy18]

Yanmar sponsorship coming ur way?

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

My thought is, Yanmar NEEDS that. I told them I’d love to give them more consideration, but I don’t know much about them because I don’t see them in the KZbin arena. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@GreyFarmTractors]

Not my money and not my business but you have seen and demonstrated the reliability of the Kubota. They dont advertise max lift like other brands do for liability reasons. I included a video to prove it. I have a B2601 that with the grapple or the pallet forks will lift over 1000 pounds. I do it all the time. My opinion is to stay with the reliability you know already. It will pay for itself in the long run. Buy once, Cry once! Love the channel man! kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6nIfHaYf92BY5o

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

You aren’t wrong, but $6k-$8k is a LOT of money to pay extra. It’s a hard pill for me to swallow. That being said, if I drag my feet a few more months maybe I can save enough…. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@GreyFarmTractors]

@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead I had a BX before I moved to the B2601 and I dont think there is a tougher tractor built on this planet! The B2601 is proving to be the same. Im almost sure the LX and L are built that way too. Money is always the driving force in these decisions for us Blue Collar folks.

[@keithmaggard9024]

I have seen brocks up close and personal looks really over built i was surprised by it for a low price tractor

[@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead]

TYM looks like a solid value…