It's Time to Celebrate

[@BingBangBow]

Some years ago in a writers strike, Conan literally proved to be the goat of talkshow hosts. he even payed for the writers out of his own pocket during the strike.

[@nolanholmberg311]

Conan and John Oliver have proven themselves over the years to be the only bastions of good late night television we have left in the industry

[@kevind3974]

@@nolanholmberg311 hell conan has retired and hes still one of the best host just because of his podcast.

[@Ijustusethistocommentstuff]

@@nolanholmberg311 John Oliver is cool. He has the kind of energy no one can replicate without copious amounts of drugs, and I love it. Did some pretty good work on Community as well.

[@j0nnyism]

I’m amazed that a talk show host has any conscience at all

[@Ben-iz9ud]

​@@nolanholmberg311 John Oliver is ass dude fake as hell

[@dizzyhq5100]

It takes a special kind of talent to have so many different people rooting for your downfall

[@HmmContent]

@Don't Read My Profile Picture ok

[@veqzor]

No talent

[@kikaGama98]

I'm pretty sure he's still doing great.. he has like 30 million subscribers on KZbin lol

[@iamgenius3784]

@@HmmContent don’t respond to bots. That’s what keeps them going. Report and ignore.

[@_Cetarial]

Why should people care about a fat talkshow host? Enlighten me.

[@WudzYT]

The fact that more people laugh at James Cordon's downfall than his actual comedy really butters the bun

[@worldisfilledb]

Some good ol fashioned bun buttering

[@LuisSierra42]

It puts a smile on my face

[@crustybomb115]

@reconz 82299 he calls himself a comedian, doesnt mean he actually is tho...

[@danjacques77]

Mmmmmmmm buttered buns!

[@BadCalibre88]

​@@crustybomb115nah he was pretty funny in Gavin and Stacey, I think the fame got to his head and knocked a screw loose or something. His ego outgrew him

[@DawnOfTheOzz]

Man, I'm old enough to remember the other writers strike back in the late 2000s. Even back then, it showed just how indispensable writers are to the industry. Without them, you'd just have a bunch of actors standing around with nothing to say.

[@danielomar9712]

And yet people have the audacity to literally go "How dare these people demand to raise their pay ? How dare the labourers go against their bosses !"

[@Captain_Neckbeard]

Modern writers are trash.

[@kaya_nori]

The best thing I've seen about the current writers' strike was the actor Thomas Ellis with a banner "I'm an actor, I LITERALLY don't know what to say".

[@sourgreendolly7685]

brilliant 😂

[@delbork6288]

🤣

[@blackday1013]

It feels like everyone notices when there is a bad writer, but nobody appreciates a good one.

[@RadSense]

(Insert animated Disney channel show creator)

[@RadSense]

*As reference for good writers, of course*

[@_Obey_]

I mean look at all these whiners saying "its all wokie now me no likie" "hollywood bad! >:(" in the comments.

[@scrubelite4915]

@@_Obey_Well that’s because most of hollywoods “woke” writers are trash writers.

[@HundredPercentPlayer]

The hand of a good writer is invisible. Good writing flows into the story naturally. This makes stories far more immersive, but with the cost of writers not receiving as much credit as on-screen jobs like actors. People only notice writers when either immersion is broken or they are watching the show specifically to dissect it's writing and see why it works. Immersion is very often broken by bad writing, whether it be a particularly annoying cliche, out of character moments, an offensive narrative, 1 episode being a rehash of another, etc.

[@NatsumiMichi]

Bad writing killed SO MANY shows. It's about time someone acknowledged the importance of having good writers and rewarding them properly.

[@sueyourself5413]

Rings of Power, the worst written show in recent memory, especially with such a high budget.

[@drstrangelove307]

Then maybe writers should start writing better, stop putting their personal ideologies into their work in ham-fisted ways, and actually earn the pay they demand.

[@zaurhasanov5458]

@@drstrangelove307 ok, Reagan

[@Rose1997011]

we all remember GOT

[@demonking3673]

@@sueyourself5413 Velma is way worse

[@oisin543]

As an actor, training at the National academy, I can say whole heartedly that a piece lives and dies on the writing. A bad actor can pull off great writing, a great actor can’t sell bad writing. Respect to the writers out there.

[@crankfastle8138]

Angela Bassett almost pulled it off with Black Panther 2.

[@draganstankovic2438]

Writers ruined every single show. They do not deserve anything. Streaming services are losing so much money cause of really bad shows (due to awful writing) and the writers want more money? What a joke. Hard dislike on this video.

[@thatfuzzypotato1877]

**WhAaAaAat, noOooooo** (Reference, I'm not mocking you)

[@barilengmarapyane2499]

@@thatfuzzypotato1877 what in the cringe

[@thatfuzzypotato1877]

​@@barilengmarapyane2499Mark Wahlberg in The Happening its like the most mocked line in the movie since he's a good actor who did a shit job in that movie

[@coldplayofdoom8908]

Conan O‘Brien is a genius when it comes to comedy, literally worked as a writer for commedians in his younger years. Not faced by the current writer striker, but when the writer strike a few years ago hit some of those late night „comedians“, Conan actually created the most entertaining and fun to watch content he‘s ever done, since he actually did it himself

[@bendover9620]

It's sad that a lot people forget that Conan was a talk show host. When they hear talk show host, it's always Kimmel, Fallon, Myers, Noah, Oliver, and many more who uses their platform for politics. Gone are the days when jokes are thrown against everybody and nobody gets triggered. I used to watch Kimmel back when he was actually funny. Now he's basically a Ben Shapiro type political commentator who tries to be funny.

[@ernigee]

I was thinking about conan too. His contents during the writer strike were hillarious.

[@acreditar-belive2950]

I don’t really think John Oliver uses his platform for politics tbh, he tries to steer clear of Trump and Biden and from what I can remember only has like 4 or 5 episodes about either

[@Captainaceguy00]

On top of that, he handled the corona shutdown much more seamlessly than any other talk show. He stayed funny and entertaining while addressing the studio struggles

[@DAMAGEdONE33]

@@acreditar-belive2950 Bro.... what?.... Look, I love Last Week Tonight and I'm mostly in line w/ Oliver's politics; but I would never try to hide him using his platform for pushing for changes. I think what you are interpreting politics to be opinions about politicians themselves (and maybe even just the big politicians). That's not what the word means. He brings up a lot of serious issues and gives possible solutions consisting of political changes and/or cultural/etc. I don't think that's bad at all. And if you watch him, then that's what you're looking for. Conan also has made some political stances, but just the easy/typical ones from what I recall. Being political has nothing to do with ability to write one's own jokes. Which is what makes him special.

[@Bepis-Boii]

Lemme tell you a funny story. So I’m an animation student and recently our school got a visit by one of the Big Mouth writers where he got to talk about the state of the animation industry right now due to the writers strike and what we as students should take into account when applying for industry jobs. Now all of us were initially dreading this lecture because… come on, it’s Big Mouth. But what was surprising to us and later just fucking hilarious was that he lectured us about how streaming services right now were being downright vile to their staff in terms of pay. He sited that Netflix was so fucking bad, that they were only willing to pay the writers more money if they didn’t unionize. Throughout the lecture, he gave us an entire “fuck Netflix” speech and at the end of it said that since he doesn’t work on the show anymore, he’s been the happiest he’s ever been and that he was glad the show got canceled. Really nice guy tbh.

[@richardadamson1438]

Good for him. I hope the dude gets a competent writing job once this whole strike ends, and I'm glad for him that he doesn't have to work on big mouth anymore.

[@nexustom5823]

Idk man, I read Big Mouth, ain't no way gonna read your comment anymore

[@Bepis-Boii]

@@nexustom5823 I don’t blame you lmao

[@cristobalbarra583]

Im a 3D animation student and one of the main teacher worked in a animated movie about one of the chilean charecters we have, is one of the worst movies our country has made, yet he is amazing at writing, he show us some scrips that were never aproved for not being comercial or had been on stand by for a long time, bad shows are not 100% writers fault, sometimes the ones that pay for the proyect ruin the original plan

[@excruciatingorgasm9976]

​@@cristobalbarra583 Don't you just hate it when the big guys restrict creativity for commercial purposes?

[@The_Hero113]

I miss Conan O’Brian late night cuz he paid his staff out of pocket during his time off tv and the 07 WGA writers strike, Conan was the last true late night host/comedian and writer.

[@banninghamma]

You forgot Craig Ferguson.

[@lucianoben-malek693]

Conan O'Brien was my favourite of all the late show hosts and "Conan Without Borders" was one of my favourite segments because it proved he was able to be funny, charming and had this magnetic energy to him that allowed him to build connections with literally anyone anywhere, even during hard times.

[@cooliostarstache5474]

Conan is still amazing. I occasionally drop in to check out his podcast, especially if he has a guest I like, and let me tell you, that even with him just at a desk, without a crazy production and without a studio audience, him and his crew are absolutely hilarious

[@danny297]

Conan is hands down best of the best with Craig Ferguson being a close second. They’re both comedic legends.

[@FL-Kaiman]

Also he was a writer for The Simpsons

[@emperoring112]

It didn't help James that his predecessor, Craig Ferguson, was one of if not the best Late Night show host of all time, at least for me he was. He was one of the ONLY Late Night show hosts that did it all basically himself. No fake laughs, no cue cards, no nothing. He made a joke and if It landed it landed and if flopped he still found a way to bring it back around. It was all him. Late Night died when Craig Ferguson left for me.

[@DC-bp8sx]

I honestly have never heard of this guy Craig until you’ve mentioned him, so that may be a bit of a stretch that he’s the goat.

[@marks2997]

With great respect, if you haven’t heard of him you may wish to reflect on the sensibility of commenting on this video. Much peace.

[@gboy1973]

yes, anyone that doesn't know and wants to see late night tv chaos... Craig Ferguson is the best!

[@OneEyedCloud01]

@@DC-bp8sx Don’t feel bad, idk who tf that man is either. I’m sure he was better at least

[@grimace4257]

@@OneEyedCloud01 Search “Craig Ferguson Geoff Peterson”

[@KarazolaX]

My mom liked his carpool karaoke segments a lot, and when I told her that he wasn't actually driving the car and they were on a hitched trailer, I could see the color and enthusiasm fade from her face. I felt so bad, almost like I was telling a child Santa Claus wasn't actually real. I stripped joy out of the life of someone I cared about so very, very dearly. James Corden is a jerk I guess but I feel like a bigger one

[@houseofhas9355]

Dammm. James Gorden sucks. How dare he lie to viewers like that. Now don't tell your mom he and the guests weren't actually singing. It's lip singing. That would have been too harsh.

[@thefishgolder]

She was going to find out someday I’m sure it was better she find out from someone she loves. I hope she recovers mentally from learning something as serious as this.

[@sv676]

Look at this, James Corden has the effect of making people just talk about him and lose loved ones

[@Jtwizzle]

I mean is it surprising? He could not interact near as much if he was focused on driving and just unsafe in general. Still, tricking the viewers is not cool... I get it.

[@everetts2661]

Show her impractical jokers, specifically Joe's best moments

[@scpWyatt]

The fact that James Cordon was allowed to wreak havoc for so long still baffles me. I’m glad the world is finally healing.

[@ThisGuyDannyyy]

W

[@ThisGuyDannyyy]

“It’s Party Time!” - Viva Piñata

[@AM-br3jw]

*wreak

[@scpWyatt]

@@AM-br3jw thanks dad, I’ve corrected the error of my ways.

[@dantheanimator5072]

The combo of James, Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel and Lily Singh is impossible to recover from. Not even a lvl 50 Mud Wizard could help

[@Typhoom_]

Can’t believe that such a famous actor is dedicating his talents towards covering television drama. We thank you greatly.

[@psychicmouse1051]

For real

[@dahat1992]

This isn't internet drama. You just copy paste this comment on every single video.

[@Carlbarl.]

@@dahat1992he literally has no comments on this channel except this one

[@zekcide]

​@@Carlbarl. you'd think people would check before accusing someone😑

[@dahat1992]

@@Carlbarl. Even if that were true, that would just mean he wrote out a comment for this video with am entirely different subject. Would that really be any better?

[@b-bit5342]

i always believe writers were the most important part of a story, because they can throw as much money as you want at the visuals and actors. but without a good writer you get marvel’s “Eternals”

[@Jimyrt.]

At least the length matched the title

[@Jessepigman69]

That man could have the best writers in the world but I dont think he could make any of the jokes land. He's too unlikable

[@jeffmunter2916]

I was mad Conan ended his show before he did. Reminder that Conan knew most of his staff by name, but Corden couldn’t name ONE person on his spill your guts show

[@GLUBSCHI]

true

[@BurgerSoup]

Conan is the best host

[@abhipatil6409]

Conan is basically one of the nicest celebrities ever

[@Ken00969]

@Don't Read My Profile Picture crybaby keeb crying 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@arandomcommenter412]

I have never heard of this man before this

[@banninghamma]

Conan O'Brien's Late Night shows during the past writers strike 15 years ago were amazing. He was able to run quite entertaining shows without written scripts while being humble and giving all credits to his striking writers and working staffs. Same thing went to Craig Ferguson's Late Late Show, which arguably is one of the greatest late night talk shows of all time for good reasons.

[@sinjin8576]

It helped that Conan has a good personality and can actually tell a good joke.

[@BederikStorm]

Conan was a writer himself for SNL. So, he could manage the thing

[@GLUFSAREN]

Conan is actually a comedian who can write his own stuff, not like these hacks that are having late night shows at the moment

[@YusS12-i5v]

Good, I love Conan but jimmy kimmel, Fallon, SNL, big mouth, and especially corden can finally be gone

[@zimbledwarf5639]

​@@BederikStormwasnt he also a writer for classic simpsons too?

[@p_owlow]

Writers deserve better pay… They really are the foundation in the entertainment industry.

[@aSPEDmf]

@Ken North Have you considered that these failures are more to blame on the Multi-millionaire executives, for not giving their writers better pay/more time.

[@Ryskimus]

Agreed, writers make or break most forms of entertainment. If you can't tell a story, you can't entertain.

[@bluemutt9964]

They shouldn't suck ass at their job then

[@VG-fk6nk]

@@aSPEDmf Increasing someone's pay won't increase their writing talent, lets get that straight first. Giving them more time might be an improvement, but no amount of time can turn a bad, bland, boring idea into a good idea. Writer failures fall square on the writers. Hopefully the strike fails, and their jobs get culled a bit. Maybe that way, some of the bad talent will be shed.

[@Hydorior]

"We are the foundation of the entertainment industry! We are responsible for the quality of everything, from Rings of Power and Witcher Blood Origins over Jimmy Kimmel and Jimmy Fallon to SNL and Big Mouth! If we don't get paid more, we will not bring you any more of it!" This is indeed a very convincing pitch. If you are pushing for a law that limits their pay at minimum wage, that is.

[@jishan6992]

How big mouth was allowed to run for 8 season is beyond me

[@gamerin123d6]

I still have no idea how he managed to destroy the absolute perfection that Craig Ferguson left for him

[@munkustrap2]

Craig & Geoff made my night every night! There'll never be another show like it!

[@HaydenWoods]

Because unfortunately CBS did not want James' show to be like Craig Ferguson's masterpieces, and when Craig left I think we all knew that late night was just never gonna be the same

[@Username26425]

I absolutely agree. Craig Ferguson is hilarious.

[@warrioremperor6320]

​@@munkustrap2 Thankfully Stephen Colbert surpasses him in everything

[@faizalf119]

Because Craig is too damn real. Holywood dislike that. They want to control the narrative. I think it started when Craig proclaimed that he's not going to talk about Britney Spears situation (when she was bald and having mental health problems) because he felt like he's kicking someone that's already down. Mainstream media hated that because they can't make money over Britney's suffering

[@MiniKitty27]

the writers are literally the backbone of the industry. it doesn't matter how great of a cast you have, how amazing your director is, how incredible the crew are, if your script is trash, your production is gonna be trash. there's only so much talent can do to make up for garbage source material and i really hope this strike gets people to appreciate writers more on top of the writers getting their proper compensation

[@SomeCanine]

None of the shows that the writers are striking for are any good.

[@irissupercoolsy]

yeah, look at Riverdale. Production and cast is great... The writing is just shit

[@yukikanegawa7470]

​@@irissupercoolsy That's not a good example since people watch Riverdale for the bad writing. It's the morbid curiosity to know what else they'll try and how they'll end it.

[@yukikanegawa7470]

​@@SomeCanine Maybe but those writers have worked on good things even if the current show is bad. You have to keep in mind the out of touch boomers that have to approve and try to direct the shows. So the show is never entirely the writer's visions.

[@verdurite]

​@@SomeCanine oh so you know every writer striking rn? It doesn't change the fact that they deserve better pay

[@jackryan740]

James Corden’s pain is my drug

[@longandwindingroad]

its my lube

[@biggdoggo1063]

James boredom

[@Reppintimefitness]

Facts 😂

[@Chahase]

Rip James Corden your show will always be hated on in it's memory

[@criticallol3039]

It may be your drug but it's my kink

[@grfrjiglstan]

Considering how devastating it is to the industry every time the writers have a strike, I’m shocked they aren’t given more respect.

[@jeremydale4548]

It's because idiots are in charge and think that writing a script for something isn't as important or valuable as the rest of the production. Honestly we as a society need to rise up, get the idiots out of their comfy chairs, and force them to do the jobs they are WOEFULLY underpaying for and see if they think they should get more respect then their underlings.

[@spicy110]

As someone from the UK, all I can say is, I am sorry you had to suffer this long. How this happened is beyond logic and reason, I hope you can take my words and find some closure to this difficult time.

[@munkustrap2]

I don't know how it happened for so long but I know how it happened to start with...Craig Ferguson was from Scotland so the powers that be just looked for another person from the UK when he retired thinking that was what made The Late Late Show great. What a mistake on their part! Craig (& Geoff [Josh Thompson]) made that show great, not where he came from.

[@jaegergames7042]

Closure*

[@BrickNewton]

I don't understand how he made it past Gavin and Stacy. Wanted to like the show but he always put me off

[@LateLastNight]

@@jaegergames7042 thank you for your service

[@bethanduke2566]

Will this mean his coming back?

[@123kickinitSUPER]

Thank God for these writers, they single handedly have stopped the sludge of shows right now

[@Sammysapphira]

They're responsible for the sludge.

[@GLUFSAREN]

if they were writing good shit this strike would make sense, since they don't I don't have any sympathy

[@mushroomgorge1]

@@GLUFSAREN I promise that sludge is just because that’s the only thing networks will green light even the writers of the shows will tell u how much they have to abide by network unless they’re a huge name in writing which most of these protestors aren’t

[@Pygmyz06]

Terrible writers on strike caused their terrible shows to be cancelled these writers seem too entitled for the shit they put out

[@23345star]

Bro, they ARE the sludge. They're the WRITERS for these shows. I hope they do get replaced.

[@realdoomerhours]

I remember the writers strikes from the early 2010s and believe me, you could tell the difference between the shows that had been written by professionals and the ones that had been put together by scabs or desperate producers. Even if you go back now and watch a show like How I Met Your Mother, it's really easy to tell which season happened during the strikes because the plot goes off the rails and the jokes fall completely flat.

[@squatchfromearth4076]

Did it ever end because all I've seen for the past 6 years is shitty writing.

[@zzskyninjazz1821]

Heroes was one of the biggest victims

[@ShivaramKarthikeyan]

Casino Royale was one of the strongest entries in the Bond franchise, and Quantum of Solace had to screw that up a few years later because of the writer's strike. On the other hand, we got the shiniest turd from the 2000s writing strike in the form of Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen.

[@realdoomerhours]

@@ShivaramKarthikeyan I'm astonished to learn that any of the Transformers movies had writers.

[@ShirleyTimple]

Wait... that show was supposed to be funny?

[@Karma-ji6ud]

"Rub some dirt in it, get over it." Truest line of this entire age. God forbid anyone ever complain about anything even if it's valid. I'm so glad society is breaking away from that kind of mindset, even if it is a chaotic world out there now.

[@Kirallia]

I remember the last writers strike, so many shows ended up ending pretty poorly around that time.. A tad surprised they didn't learn to keep the writers happy..

[@warlordofbritannia]

Billionaires hate spending money, that’s why/how they’re billionaires. But the only thing they hate more than spending money is losing money.

[@artificiallystupidintellig8819]

A moment of silence for the last season of lost...

[@RandomMocker]

@@artificiallystupidintellig8819 ANd season 2 of Heroes.

[@aqua-bery]

Arcane... I'm glad toh survived and ended before this even though it still got cut too short

[@aritzmartinezrodriguez1825]

@@RandomMocker yeah, that one was rough...

[@immagonnawin]

The writers strike 10 years ago single handedly sent Heroes into the GROUND. The amount of buzz and hype and cultural impact that show had, crashing to a halt after trying to make the show work without their writers. The seasons that happened because of that were retconned in the highest degree, to the point that the writers for later seasons said "just pretend that season didn't happen" because not a SINGLE plot point was able to work.

[@rasputin2k851]

Are you talking about B-grade X-Men with a Twilight twist?

[@rebornpheonix1016]

@@rasputin2k851 Yes.

[@Shadowcam00]

@@rasputin2k851 B-grade is generous. More like dollar-store X-men.

[@worldofdoom995]

Fifteen years ago

[@Madly_Zen]

Anybody who says writers aren’t important to shows needs to remember that what made shows like breaking bad and the boys so great is how impactful the writing is, it’s what enables the actors to reach their full potential without sounding clunky or weird.

[@phoebejl]

Impactful when there were good writers in Hollywood, only need to look at the box office to see something is wrong and a lot of it is the writers.

[@Madly_Zen]

@@phoebejl I’m not saying all writers are phenomenal. But don’t you think that the lack of fair pay rates for movies that are going to streaming anyway or just streaming shows could have something to do with the lack of talent in major scripts recently? If people aren’t going to be paid the same rate they used to be because the studio intends on releasing it to streaming quicker, then a lot of the talented writers or writers as a whole aren’t going to be incentivized to put a lot of time into the quality of scripts

[@yosos2]

@@phoebejl it's not the writers fault, it's studios mandating to cater to the lowest common denominator, it's capitalism baby!!!🦅🦅

[@samunderwood4005]

@@phoebejl The Boys is still being written? Also Better Call Saul only finished last year.

[@anthony452]

Yea but these writers weren't. It's all the over political left wing shows that seem to be affected. Hard to have much compassion for them when you realize their job is to spread propaganda in the form of "comedy".

[@possum0451]

As an aspiring screenwriter, this terrifies me. Writers make films have substance. And that substance can't be made using flashy CGI or cheesy dialogue.

[@jaguarj1942]

One of the big points of this strike is to gain an incentive for success model. For other forms of media, the writers get paid more if the show succeeds. This is part of why I think streaming shows suck. Writers aren’t being paid well so they write a plot that is passable and nothing more

[@kretisme]

I am sure that is part of it but there is also a lot of blote and I agree with them getting better pay when deserved but one of demands that undermines there position is demanding x amount of writers to be on every show that is dispicible

[@slammedc2003]

I still have no idea how in the world Corden became so famous. However, I don't know why so many dweebs are so very famous. EDIT: I honestly can't believe people think writers should not be paid correctly for their contributions to our favorite shows. It is way easier to replace an actor than it is to write great material.

[@blackjackjester]

I don't understand why they should get residuals at all. Why not, like every other job on earth, do they not just get paid for the service they provide. Insert cash, receive script. I don't get residuals on the software I write, why should they get residuals for the shows they write? This all seems ridiculous to me.

[@espresseaux]

In theory it's for the same reason that startup employees are paid in stock. In practice it's the paradigm that exists, so it's hard for writers to demand a different payment scheme

[@ninelivesstealer]

If Hollywood and TV writers were "paid correctly" for their work, they wouldn't be paid at all because they suck at their jobs

[@imnotbenavery9220]

They have 5000$ apartments and drink 25$ cocktails, boo fkn hoo

[@jacktheflash8478]

Well if you are replacing an actor the new one needs to be fairly similar to make it work that’s a bit more work

[@blahblahsonMD]

On the note of late night shows taking a step back, does anyone remember the previous writers' strike, when Conan, as a writer, actually managed to keep the show going himself?

[@blahblahsonMD]

@The Wandering k that he was

[@sewgeekdesigns9113]

Yes I haven’t watched late night In. Years but I watched Conan and he did his best during that time lol

[@magikenn]

Respect.

[@heyryanisonx3141]

And it gave us the best segments, like Jordan Schlansky

[@blaster915]

Man earned his stripes writing for Simpsons at their peak. Just look to the monorail episode he helmed for proof.

[@MrFuggleGuggle]

The problem right now with the Writer’s Strike is that - despite the explosion in streaming content - nothing in streaming is actually making money. Not a single streaming service has been long term profitable. Netflix only was making profit when no other service existed, and they weren’t spending billions upon billions of dollars on ‘original content’. It’s a service that requires constant technical updates across devices and operating system platforms, streaming rights costs is becoming more and more expensive long term, and most streaming services don’t rely nearly as much on advertising revenue compared to traditional TV. So all of Netflix’s profits are now gone, and other studios services aren’t making much to begin with. Disney even admitted they made more money selling streaming rights than hording their content on Disney +. Writers are important, but frankly they’re asking for money that may not exist. You think HBO Max is removing shows and movies they themselves made and produced for no reason…?

[@QZaccardelli]

“Audiences don’t know a writer writes a script. They think the actors make it up as they go along.” -Joe Gillis, Sunset Boulevard

[@tanker335]

"The people I want to adore me are idiots." -Joe Gillis, Sunset Boulevard. On a related note, who the hell is Joe Gillis?

[@buildman126]

And? Most writers here in the west have been trash for the past 5+ years 😂

[@spazmagoog]

Good actors do. Bill Murray constantly goes off script. Damn near every line in Ghostbusters was improvised.

[@SN1P3RHUNT3R1]

Congrats everyone. thank you to everyone who made this possible

[@worldisfilledb]

Youre welcome fam

[@janb92]

🙌🏽🙌🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@LuisSierra42]

We did it! - victory music plays

[@SamaelMoneyStein]

@igger gey liberal

[@bigcgaming9042]

Why thank you. I just want to see Charlie’s reaction to Corden’s ego getting ruined

[@posysdogovych2065]

Talk show hosts never wrote much of their own material. Even the legendary Johnny Carson relied on writers for his monologue and skits. His talent was, of course, in his delivery of the material and his ability to connect with audiences and his guests.

[@faizalf119]

Meanwhile Craig Ferguson had to write his own skits and no one talk about him.

[@warrioremperor6320]

​@@faizalf119 He had help from a ton of writers idiot no way he wrote it all himself

[@warlordofbritannia]

The studios love playing off the stars against the production workers, when in reality every show is a team effort. Remove any single element (writing, directing, makeup, etc) and the whole thing falls apart. I hope the striking writers get their fair share, because that will open it up to other departments getting their own

[@posysdogovych2065]

@@faizalf119 That's very true. Ferguson wrote three books and a few movies as well. He might be the most underrated late night host of all time.

[@Bl4ckD0g]

If it wasn't for writers Fallon wouldn't have lasted a season.

[@macauleyliamcurran2925]

I don’t think Americans know how sad it is for Brits. James Corden played one of the most loved characters, ‘Smithy’. Watching him show his true colours was painful to say the least

[@simplycheezy187]

Last time we had a writers strike we got "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" writers are vital.

[@jaybarbieri8619]

Sad thing is that it was followed up by Dark of the Moon which was infinitely better

[@Mushromeow]

Now we'll have "Transformers: Machine Learning Model" with the industry thinking GPT is enough.

[@benjaminlivingston9706]

Quantum of Solace was severely hampered by the writer's strike too (although based on Michael Bay's other Transformers movies, I think Revenge of the Fallen would still be terrible to some extent).

[@anirudhmenon4234]

I unapologetically love that movie.

[@simplycheezy187]

@@anirudhmenon4234 me too

[@MegCazalet]

I remember the writers strike of the late of 2007-08. It tanked some promising shows, because everyone lost interest and the shows became aimless. Heroes was a big one that had been promoted so much, had a good first, mmm, two seasons, then went off the rails. Pushing Daisies, which had the bad fortune of premiering in 2007, was wonderfully charming and weird and it just couldn’t get the viewers and folded in 2009. It was a huge hit with critics and did get to live on in other forms. The show was so creative with it’s faced-paced intelligent dialogue and unique plot, plus stunning visual style, it was still lamented over years later. Writers deserve soooo much credit. It’s their minds who create the gripping shows we watch. We’ve been through this, I thought the industry learned. They shouldn’t have to be striking again so soon. The networks should be already working feverishly on getting the writers what they deserve. To come to a strike is a HUGE step. And signals real trouble for the industry. I’m so disappointed.

[@VG-fk6nk]

The writing department has been absolute shit across the board though. Movies, TV series, late-night shows. This strike is aimed to KEEP the terrible level of writing, by keeping the same worthless hacks employed, so they can churn out more of the same shit. If anything, it'd be better to NOT have a successful strike - that way, (hopefully) the shit writers will have quit or be let go, and only the talented ones would remain, giving the industry way better quality overall. Coming to a strike is a HUGE step indeed - the death-throws of talentless people, trying to hold on to their paychecks, despite being awful at their jobs.

[@slook7094]

That writer's strike canceled one of the best shows ever: Drawn Together.

[@christmastiger]

I loved Pushing Daisies, such an underrated show that I feel like pushed over-the-top stylization in TV shows before its time

[@webbedshadow2601]

WAIT HEROES??? I REMEMBER THAT SHOW BEING ON TV, wow, I was only 6 so probably too little to know what a writer strike was

[@samcochran8203]

Man, I miss Hiro from Heroes

[@Robin_Goodfellow]

I think part of the problem with the public's perception of writers is that we have so strongly pushed the idea that the director is the author of a movie. The director is super important, right, and they can influence what script gets into the final cut, but it isn't their primary job to write the script. I would love in the future to see movie trailers that say something like "from writer x and director y"

[@hotedits1991]

people who watch korean dramas tend to keep track of the writers of the shows they are watching and even expect newer shows from their favourite writers. Recently a netflix produced korean drama "alchemy of the souls" had the whole fandom praying to gods for a happy ending because the writers ,who are sister duo, are infamous for writing heart wrenching sad endings.

[@chloekrueger9497]

I support that idea. I volunteer in local theater and sometimes different ones do local story contests for an original ten minute play and whenever I've been asked to direct or taken directorial classes as a summer camp when I was younger a question that we we're given or we should ask ourselves is "What is the writer trying to say?" And "How will you be able to present the ideas and story to the audience effectively?" And I think that is something that the paid creatives forget.

[@Rainkit]

The director is the director. It's the writers, editors, actors, set designers, ect who do most of the work. But the director gets all the credit because he told people what he wanted done.

[@parkchimmin7913]

I recently had a theatre director talk in my class and he openly acknowledged that the directors don’t do shit. Directors had a specific vision in mind for the story and it’s their job to communicate it with the customer department, writers, actors, lighting/sound/camera crew, etc. They’re only there to make sure everything is cohesive. That’s all.

[@ember9361]

It’s the literal first thing to come up in the credits. Both opening and ending, it’s more about people giving a fuck.

[@alantheinquirer7658]

You are so damn lucky! He's on his way back here to the UK ... where we don't want him! His management/P.R. team have been all over the media, trying to tell us how he's wonderful, that he loves the people he interviews, that he's 'coming home' to popular AMERICAN acclaim! Waiting for his return ... and going down in a ball of flames!

[@chisecrecy4974]

I've noticed that writing is also now more important than ever for superhero movies, too. If Marvel and DC want to keep making their movies and shows, they seriously have to step up their writing, because the novelty of just going to see your favorite comic book characters on-screen has worn off for the majority of audiences.

[@crimsonking440]

I think that major productions like that having such lackluster or even just downright dogshit writing is why a lot of these bad takes about writers not deserving fair compensation exist. All these big movies and shows writers have been just phoning it it banking on people being so stupid that they'll just buy the shit anyway, meanwhile there's a multitude of writers out there actually working hard and trying to make the best thing possible that just get shit on nonstop by the industry, and now by the public because of how lazy the more visible ones have been. Like if you asked me should the writers of the last couple mcu movies get paid more my answer would be a huge fuck no cause their stuff was terrible. If anything pay those morons less. But then there's all the writers who actually do good work who are getting paid in used bags of airplane peanuts in comparison who definitely deserve more.

[@thatonea-hole]

EXACTLY! Especially with how the MCU is now struggling, and a lot of them were written poorly, alia Thor: Love and Thunder

[@edmac1090]

The writing in Hollywood has been complete garbage for like 10 years. I want to see the whole thing crumble, writers and execs.

[@VG-fk6nk]

Writers right now are striking with the goal in mind to KEEP the low-level of writing. Look: If the strike succeeds - the writers get their pay, they're all happy, they keep churning out the same slosh they have been for the past half-decade+. If the strike fails - amazing! This means some of them will have to quit the job, or will be fired - either way, the field will be culled, which means (hopefully) that only the more talented writers remain, thus improving the quality of writing.

[@ddremdie6653]

​@@VG-fk6nk never heard of a creative who would fight to keep churning out shit content but apparently you're the expert on it LMFAO

[@josephcantu3562]

I remember when the writers strike happened years ago. Breaking bad was in-between season 1 and 2. And the original plan was to kill off Jesse as character development for Walt. But since the writers went on strike they had time to do focus group testing and EVERYONE loved Jesse so much they decided not to kill him. So if the writers never went on strike breaking bad would have been very different.

[@MASTEROFEVIL]

Tuco was supposed to kill Jesse at the end of season 1

[@isawayto]

Actually would have been better . I got tired of Jesse crying after the first 2 seasons.

[@crimsonking440]

Bro that was like 2 writers strikes ago

[@teatea1115]

Darryl from the walking dead was also supposed to die. Until they found out he was the fan favorite so the kept him alive in season 2

[@raynaakuma9981]

@@teatea1115 yeah cus he died pretty earlier on! and they were going to do the scene of michonne in the comics of the governor doing terrible inhumane things to her, but writers went on strike to not add that in as they felt uncomfortable and disgusted and just wanted to leave that scene in the comics and comics only

[@IlliterateDoomer]

The only astonishing part about this situation is finding out that Bigmouth had real living people in it's writing team. I thought they had some bootleg AI writing their show.

[@katem5520]

All late night shows go off of a script, yet he was somehow the only one able to manage to sound even more fake than anyone else. He always gave me two-faced kind of vibes. Lots of backhanded comments and just an overall weird vibe. This suspicion only grew once rumors started surfacing on Reddit.. Always trust your gut instinct lol So happy for you, Charlie!

[@SahiPie]

Bro it’s not even rumors, it’s straight up been long confirmed for literally almost his entire career since his initial blow up that he was a absolute fucking dickhead

[@nickyar6147]

When I realized they were ending the show, Charlie's reaction was the first thing I was looking for.

[@sonofhades57]

The best thing about this strike is not just that a lot of fucking awful shows are unable to continue at present, but that it's finally. Fucking. Unified. Last time the writers tried this in 2017, some of the organizations like the Director's Guild were scabbing hard. But this year literally everyone is unified in their quest for proper pay and keeping fucking AI out of the writer's room. It's brilliant.

[@Lono12E]

Fax

[@ninakore]

No one can stop AI

[@buildman126]

>keeping ai out of the writers room Yeah, they want to keep out except when they'll use it to save on time :^)

[@pizzlerot2730]

Yeah I really feel like this one is more about AI than it is actual pay, because only a threat that dire would be bringing everyone from all corners of the industry together. Like pay is what sparked the strike, sure, but they probably figured that they'd better go ahead while they have leverage and get something down on paper in a CBA about not allowing AI to take over their work. If they'd waited any longer and allowed the production companies to start to bring in AI and get its foot in the door, it would have been too late. And I know that I for one don't want to watch shows written by AI, I don't care how good or funny they might be. Smart move on their part 👍

[@StraightestDakregor]

It's amazing how writers are so underestimated while also being the cited reason as to why a show fails or succeeds. A bunch of shows from the mid 2000's are cited to have the worst material around 2008, another writer's strike, having some of the shows pulled down from being super profitable. That should be evidence enough of how important a writer's work is for the entertainment industry.

[@phoebejl]

Yeah maybe you should look at the box office numbers. Agenda pushing doesn't work and its these writers which are doing it. Just look at She Hulk.

[@alisongreat3756]

I hope marvel and dc lose the most from this we need nongready companies before the end of the superhero era

[@DexLuther]

Underestimated? I would say Overestimated. These are the writers that took IP like Lord of the Rings and turned it into the complete mockery that is Rings of Power. These are the writers that produce shit like Velma, Star Trek Picard Season 1 and 2, and Star Trek Discovery. These are the writers that spew out Disney Star Wars and Disney Marvel Movies and shows. These are the writers that believe it's more important to inject their political beliefs into everything rather than learn and respect the property they are working on. *Good* writers are important to the industry, but most of these writers are neither good nor important; the industry has been losing money for years because of them. This opportunity should be taken to get rid of these bad writers, which unfortunately is probably most of them.

[@kanjonojigoku8644]

​@@DexLuther something makes me think that you dont like women or minorities very much

[@AshCosgrove]

@@kanjonojigoku8644 Or maybe he doesn't like awful tv shows and movies?

[@ChristopherJames1993]

"Without the writer, the character doesnt exist."

[@pwoo1931]

Imagine no Sopranos or Breaking Bad, the guys who wrote those episodes and lines are genuinely real talented people

[@jeremytewari3346]

Breaking Bad Season 1 actually got cut short because of the last writer's strike

[@Matthimeo]

This also affects more people than just the writers. A lot of productions have been held off for the next year in anticipation of this strike, so there’s many people out of a job in the film and VFX industry. This makes it an ideal time for union organization there, I wouldn’t be surprised to see VFX workers start unionizing and striking as this goes on.

[@IAmTheBugInsideYou]

Strike while the iron is hot, when amazon managed to unionize at a large warehouse, starbucks workers saw the opportunity & went for it. Collective bargaining by the workers pays off big when everyone does it while it's snowballed

[@ajiththomas2465]

Hell yeah! Because VFX as a fielding the film industry is much much younger compare dto the other fields of film, they weren't around when the first big unionization push in Hollywood happened. VFX artists get treated like dirt when they should be treated much much better. Agitate, Educate, Innoculate, Organize, Unionize.

[@mikael100100]

Hold the fuck up. Amazon finally unionized?!?@? When??!!

[@ajiththomas2465]

@mikael100100 A lot of them have been trying for about 2 years. Ever heard of the New York Amazon unionization attempt?

[@tibbyzt4852]

The Late Late show was at its peak with Craig Ferguson. When he left in 2014 and brought james on it wqs instantly dashed to bits.

[@munkustrap2]

I think it's now been proven that Craig & Josh Thompson (Geoff Peterson) made that show. Magic in a bottle.

[@dustin4747]

I agree that writers are the lifeblood of good content, but to be honest there is a lot of modern content that probably wont see a difference between what's already been made and what will be made without writers. Best case scenario for some shows is that there will be no differences in the quality of writing and the worst case scenario is that a bad show gets worse.

[@TheMrMrhobo]

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is also full of overcoming it" Helen Keller. I never understood these words until today. Thank you James Corden for opening my eyes.

[@PaulAllen786]

😂

[@anthonylesley982]

Lol

[@ambwow5969]

Opened your eyes unlike Helen Keller lol

[@xerilaun]

​@@ambwow5969ouch

[@vittoprince]

The writers really are the foundation in which shows are built upon. Shows like Better Call Saul, Succession and many others wouldn’t be that engaging if it weren’t for the writers.

[@GrimNephilim]

Writers, directors, actors, TV show makeup artists, animators, act. Anyone in these realms of proffesions has no businesses complaining until we adress the income issues of those with necessary jobs.

[@warlordofbritannia]

Yes, but have you considered that they get paid? That’s not very maximum profits for the studios…

[@spicynoodles2742]

I worked for a short period, as a landscap artist, in a small indie animation studio, I had never realized how important writers were until then, they had to make sense of the story, divide the chapters, and be specific with the detail , so that the storyboards knew what they had to put and we could do the rest of the work. If the writers didn't finish their part, we couldn't continue, they are the base of everything that happens after, basically.

[@cthulhuman6162]

“There’s so much bad writing in Hollywood all the writers deserve to lose their jobs” is the equivalent of saying “there’s so many ugly buildings nowadays, every architect should starve to death”

[@SFRZRD]

On top of that - it's no secret that he's an incredibly unpleasant person behind the scenes, which makes this all the more heart warming

[@shaunriordan493]

I will be using “let me give you an enema of good news” in the next team meeting with my director. Thank you for this.

[@lorraineviruet8973]

Idk man be careful with that one 🫣

[@theanimationlizard3880]

Never thought I would see the day.

[@bananasinfrench]

Anyone who says writers aren't important to media are absolutely braindead. Bad visuals can be saved by good writing, but good visuals can't save bad writing. Writers deserve way better and I hope the WGA strike is more than successful. I hope the CGI artists strike next

[@borgegush379]

The way Charlie hates big mouth brings me unparalleled joy

[@roxassora2706]

It's not that bad, I've seen much worse on Twitter but damn, same.

[@seg162]

​@@roxassora2706 That's like saying the gas station bathroom isn't that bad because you've seen what's in the sewers

[@briantaylor2.023]

@@roxassora2706Nah, that show fucking sucks

[@briantaylor2.023]

Same, bro

[@pisshat]

it’s my favourite show, was heartbroken to hear it’s ending the amount of hate it gets is ridiculous, just don’t watch it if you don’t like it, it brings so much joy and comfort to my life and many others it’s fucking devastating that people are celebrating its end

[@jeanthemachine007]

I had a shitty day today but this put a smile on my face

[@Cachuchas69]

Rip the day just started U got this brother

[@budani1473]

Ufc fight tonight

[@TheFirstCurse1]

I hope you have a better day

[@NiskaMagnusson]

may things get bettter for you Jean

[@Neotheaterr]

It’ll get better💪💪 been there done that hang in there bro

[@Vaajraath]

Any chance the writers strike can also upend season 2 of Velma? Now there's a group of writers who absolutely deserve to be fired.

[@animerlzs85]

The problem was the late late show with Craig Ferguson was actually an awesome show with hillarious improv, and a genuine comedian as the host. Once letterman left, because he owned both times lots, craigs show went with him. They beleived it was the time slot that was so valuable, so they invested alot into the show they replaced it with. Also since NBC didn't own the timeslot they refused to advertise Craig's show. despite the lack of budget, it is still my all time favorite late night show

[@ChrisTheFreedomEnjoyer]

The last time the Writers' Guild went on strike it stopped Jesse from getting killed off of Breaking Bad. I say let them keep striking all they want.

[@chaoticscripts7345]

@@charliemalick8985 "You are not the guy!"

[@Wertzuio]

@@chaoticscripts7345 "you're not capable of being the guy"

[@meloncolli_]

HE WAS GOING TO DIE?!!!

[@SRosenberg203]

@@meloncolli_ Yeah, the original plan was to kill him off in the first season, but he was such a fan-favorite that when the Writer's Strike delayed the second season, they ended up deciding to keep him on the show.

[@meloncolli_]

@@SRosenberg203 thank goodness idk what would happen without him :(

[@mr.manman1]

Charlie may have been denied his right to act in the new Hunger Games, but James Cordon's show finally ending makes up for it.

[@ronanmaguire1015]

The fact that big mouth is still a show is insane, It has almost 10 times less the support than Inside Job had, Which was in its first season and had so much potential, especially with younger generations.I hope this makes shows more expensive and forces companies to make some good content

[@Justin-pe9cl]

The second season of inside job was REALLY cooking up the story and makes it’s cancellation that much more painful.

[@lucasnebz4735]

Big mouth is fucking funny as shit man. It's immature as shit but still good for some cheap laughs. I can totally get why it's not for some people, but it's blatantly not true when people say it sucks. Like Velma has no reason to exist, can't say the same for BM. But i still can't believe that inside job got axed so quickly, great setting and characters with actually interesting storylines, a fucking shame indeed.

[@robinhood5164]

En

[@RemiRayyy]

At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if Netflix got rid of everything for one more season of big mouth

[@drunkenhobo5039]

I think the theme of Big Mouth is exactly the sort of stuff Hollywood execs love to push though...

[@zivkovicable]

I live in the UK While you celebrates departure, we mourn his return. .

[@TrinketFairy]

Honestly as a Craig Ferguson fan from all those years back it is sad to see the entire show end as opposed to doing an NBC an just firing Cordon for a new host. It’s kinda mind-boggling how good Craig made that show with what little budget he was given vs how lenient they were to Cordon despite losing money. What because he had one successful segment and was more advertiser friendly. The late late show with Craig was one I went to see live before he left and I’m glad I did just shows how important a host is to a talk show.

[@sirkenzington8825]

They really caught lightning in a bottle with Craig (and Geoff). It was the right kind of 'different' content for a lot of people at the right point in time. Their lack of budget even helped at times to set the right punkrock-we'll-do-it-live kinda vibe Craig was going for. But it wasnt super advertiser friendly as you say. So glad I got to watch it when it was on though =)

[@KnownAsKenji]

I miss Craig too. More consistently funny than any late night talk show I've ever seen.

[@gehteuchnixan69]

Watch any clip of Craig's show and you're still cracking up years after he walked away, that's how good he was

[@Jetstoanywhere]

Him and Conan were the only good late night hosts

[@slackolantern]

I think Late Night shows in general are going to be eventually sort of dying off. They're a really older type of show and haven't really evolved much from the days before streaming and stuff like youtube. I think instead we might see less and less of these types of shows, or at least done in with the idea that you're watching them "at night."

[@vjara94]

I really really hope the writers get to a position where they're well compensated, they're such a big part of the industry and they deserve it. And in that note, I would hope vfx artist could do something similar cause they're another big part of most tv and movies and they're trated like garbage and exploited like lab rats

[@smashmebro7108]

I may be wrong but I don't think vfx artists are even unionised which makes their treatment even worse.

[@Wired4Life2]

@@smashmebro7108 Are VFX studios still paid flat rates for projects, even when their clients request changes (i.e., "pixel-fucking")?

[@ignatz2]

@@Wired4Life2 I believe so, honestly the entire industry is fucked if you're not a celebrity. My father works as BOTH the director AND main editor for a moderately sized tv programme in my country and not only does he sometimes have to re-edit episodes over and over to the producers' liking for no additional pay, they're constantly late with that pay for both of the jobs he does (like "not paying him for 3 months" kind of late)

[@VocalsByBrd]

I believe that this is the time where we should get a “WOOOOO YEAAAAAHHHH BABYYY”

[@TheJerbol]

I've always found it ridiculous that RDJ is almost a billionaire from Marvel movies but 90% of the people who actually make the movies are basically living in poverty

[@wizardgaming6759]

Well that’s how it works sadly. You pay for the production, advertising, and pay people working on the movie minimum wage, so the actors can get millions.

[@level266]

People shouldn't hold grudges! Meanwhile Charlie melts this man in to the sun every chance he gets lol I love it

[@mrlox9576]

Writer's efforts have always been soooooo under rated. Without them, the stars would just be standing there looking stupid!

[@ETuss713]

Modern cinema and television suck partly due to horrible ideologs that call themselves writers. Thw writers are just as much to blame for all modern entertainment trash

[@seg162]

Yeah-- instead, they get to look AND sound stupid.

[@o_oo_o1812]

over paid. the stars are already standing there looking stupid

[@victoriacrudup3477]

Exactly the writers are the real stars

[@blitheringrando1410]

Some movies are books first and all of them have a script before they get acted out. Writing is the most necessary step to story telling.

[@mort3562]

The moment he said "big mouth" my cortisol levels dropped by 90%, my chakras opened and I gained 10 kg in raw muscle

[@ochuspin]

When he said “big mouth” my soul was rended from my body for at least 20 seconds

[@TeddyLovesAxl]

Cool 😎

[@__Konboi__]

I wonder if this strike affects Warner Bros, then Velma would possibly get shafted.

[@dman6093]

​@__Konboi__ nobody on Velma can get shafted because Fred has a tiny dick *hold for laughter*

[@lutherabrahams3617]

God is good..

[@younganjojo503]

James Gordon is the irl bojack horseman

[@strangerofthe2067]

Props to Jimmy James for uniting everyone in celebration for finally leaving 🎉

[@bettinaherlinger9650]

Thank you for talking about the strike! I’m a screenwriter and I’m Pickering with my colleagues this days. Jason sudekis joined us yesterday. For me it’s so terrible that you have the music industry being fair and I don’t get how they cannot figure it for screenwriters. I mean you have Spotify figured out the residuals how can you not figure it out for streaming???? They just don’t care. Ty for supporting! It’s nice to see such a big hunger games actor being so supportive!

[@GrimNephilim]

Nobody protests for the incredibly low income jobs that literally make or break our country... but we all stand for already middle class jobs that provide nothing buy leisure?

[@GrimNephilim]

Writers, directors, actors, TV show makeup artists, animators, act. Anyone in these realms of proffesions has no businesses complaining until we adress the income issues of those with necessary jobs.

[@BlackDiamondYoutub]

The music industry is in no way 'fair' lmao. Its fantastic for writers, cause they add two words or three notes to a song and are instantly entitled to like 25-50%. But people who make the actual music (recording engineers, session musicians, mixing and mastering engineers, etc.) they get 0%. It is not a fair industry at all, just extremely biased towards writers getting all the compensation.

[@acceptablecasualty5319]

@@GrimNephilim That attitude is corpo propaganda. Everyone should be allowed to unionize and demand fair compensation, regardless of what they do. Treating that as a privilege and not a right is exactly what they want. Blue Collar Jobs demanding fair pay strenghtens the postion of other labor movements since it creates precedence.

[@NegaRenGenX2gay2lift]

@@GrimNephilim "Nobody protests for the incredibly low income jobs that literally make or break our country" thats because blue collar unions have been dead for almost a century due to union busting, legislations that favor coporations, and scaring new employees into not forming unions, and in some cases bringing in the national guard to kill workers (the later im refering to the West Virginia Coal Wars) the only reason why SAG, IATSE, and the Writer's guild is able to shut down their entire industry, is because they are powerful enough to even *attempt* to get coporations into the negotiation table. moral of the story, your labor matters, no matter what career you are in. there is no such thing as a "real job". and once you go down that path and put down another worker, you dont care about the working class.

[@masterodd5104]

As an actor, yes, we present the shows and stuff, but without writers, we don't have anything to go off of, we can't do our job if we don't have anything written

[@scoutcraft4288]

I am so happy to never have watched it and now seeing it end is truly bringing a tier to my eye

[@avilaomar10]

You should make a tear list 😂

[@Shika_]

​@@avilaomar10 I'm usually not for picking on grammar but damn that was funny😂

[@avilaomar10]

@@Shika_ same but this guy walked in to that one

[@PixelPixie86]

Consider yourself lucky to have never watched it! Let’s all celebrate the evil being vanquished!

[@finestcustard5647]

There’s a modest mouse lyric where he says “all them eager actors gladly take the credit for the lines created by the people tucked a at from sight”. I love it I think it’s really well said even though I don’t 100% agree with it cause delivery can make or break the writing of a show. I still think it’s really well said though and is true to some extent.

[@Generic-usernam3]

It’s so cute to see Charlie get so excited over the downfall of Corden.

[@私たちは一緒に行進します]

We still aren't taking him back!

[@TheIdiotsHaveTakenOver]

This is the second time they've gone on strike for the same exact thing. I'll never forget the first huge writers' strike, years ago; that's when I finally found out just how talented Conan O'Brien is. His show, without writers, has to be the funniest shit that's ever been on network television.

[@slook7094]

That's because Conan was originally a writer.

[@TheIdiotsHaveTakenOver]

@@slook7094 yes he was for SNL and maybe a couple of other shows

[@lahoorah]

@@TheIdiotsHaveTakenOver SIMPSONS! Conan was classic Simpsons... :)

[@TheIdiotsHaveTakenOver]

@@lahoorah oh yeah!! He did so, huh?

[@slook7094]

@@TheIdiotsHaveTakenOver Not for SNL, he was a writer for the Simpsons.

[@imjustyler]

Writers to actors are bands to singers. Basically unnoticed whilst laying the foundation for others

[@High-Overlord-Snarffie-Pug]

the nice writers strike is also awesome, I hope it never ends

[@DoctorSpectre9781]

The number 1 thing I look for in a movie or show is good writing. I just had the pleasure of watching Faster and Snitch. Both were very well written films that took Dwayne Johnson out of his comfort zone and managed to pull performances out of him that I wish he’d do more of, because watching him play very flawed men was a great treat.

[@jordanthurt]

Regarding the streaming compensation, this is exactly what happened to the music industry. Before 2010, 90% of artist revenue was CD sales and 10% was concerts and merch. That COMPLETELY flipped after 2010. Streaming really has made it difficult to make money in any creative field, even for celebrities and high-profile employees of those projects.

[@conflict7269]

For sure you get your money doing live shows and selling merch anymore unless it changed again lol

[@TikkiNikki]

Wait, what?!?! That's so wildly inaccurate. Before streaming, artists didn't get shit except for concerts abd merch because "cds cost money". Then streaming empowered them to make more... Before the labels wrote contracts tp take those streams lf income too. Musical artists have ALWAYS been screwed over by labels, streaming didn't change anything

[@Ou8y2k2]

@@TikkiNikki Yes. The OP is fucking stupidly wrong. So bad that the post should be deleted.

[@Ou8y2k2]

Read TikkiNikki's post. Sigh...

[@IGNITE1O]

One of my favorite shows cobra Kai is basically delayed. But the writers are the one that make the show great, I’m happy to wait, they deserve it

[@sourgreendolly7685]

THIS is the right attitude. It's insane how many people just care about their entertainment but not those creating it!

[@dantheanimator5072]

That’s the first thing I think of when people stop going to see movies in theater or boycott something It’s the worker bees, the writers, the drivers that get hit first and the worst

[@MadMagicianGaming]

I'm honestly surprised Charlie didn't throw in a happy dance in the intro. Maybe a jig, you know, maybe wiggle the finger. Could even throw in "The SpongeBob"

[@Lug4sG]

The writers are on strike. And nothing of value has been lost.

[@ALovelyLad]

I only watched clips of his show to see Reggie Watts’ musical performances, that guy is legitimately talented and was the jolliest soul when I met him

[@lisagoble1148]

Now if we could only get The View into the dustbin of history, we could really celebrate 🎉

[@elaexplorer]

Right. Daytime TV is worse than late night. At least the kids may have gone to bed for late night.

[@Beelzebubby91]

I lose braincells each time I hear the View or Dr Oz on tv

[@Neotheaterr]

Yes. Let’s just dump most talk shows into the dustbin. Most of the are unfunny and outright stupid lol

[@thatswhatsgood24]

This is the real enemy here. The worst part is hearing middle aged women parrot the absolutely brain dead takes that the talking heads on the view spout. Some people legitimately watch shows like that for news and then wonder why no one takes their opinions seriously.

[@platty9237]

@@thatswhatsgood24 it’s kinda funny to see those “strong independent women” basically parrot corporate media talking points.

[@neotheone7923]

craig ferguson left him a perfect show and he managed to kill it

[@zepo82]

Gavin and Stacey was good...I wonder how much he had to do with that now...

[@yothisgamesucks]

Incorrect.. Craig Ferguson was that show.. cordon could never even come close.. Craig could actively trash the studio on the show and they still loved him.. craigy ferg is a legend.. did that show for idk how many years and never asked one question on those little blue cards. Steven Wright, one of the greatest dead pan comics ever was absolutely enamored by him.. Steven had no chance of keeping a straight face around Craig.. him and robin williams together.. even him and Morgan freeman.. we may not have a talk show host like craig Ferguson for a long time if we ever do again.. I can’t say for sure that James cordon is an asshole but a lot of people seem to think so.. I won’t dabble in those affairs.. but I can say that watching cordon and then going back to watch craig Ferguson left me feeling that they were polar opposites.. there was a never a dull moment with Ferguson.. maybe a sad or perhaps uncomfortable moment or 2.. but for those most part.. you got to see celebrities be themselves a bit more than when they were on one of those “professional” shows.. you should totally do a video one craig Ferguson Charlie.. at least I think.. maybe a tier list of talk show hosts? Could already be a thing.. idk.. a lot of Charlie on this here internet thingy.. but anyways.. that’s all my bullshit.. peace and love

[@TheLegendaryBillCipher]

Writers do deserve better pay. Good writers.

[@htmlnet4664]

I genuinely closed my eyes and almost cried for a utopia like that ...

[@spike5499]

Bruh 😂