Velma is Worse Than I Expected

[@DolanDarker]

The show was made for the internet to come together and shit on, no other reason makes sense

[@KenjaTimu]

It's a representation of the people who made it. That is why all my entertainment is either KZbin or Japanese.

[@Angoolian]

Velma is truly not the show ever 😔

[@WeGonDoALittleTrolling]

The entire internet is likely going to give it the "MORBIUS TREATMENT"

[@duckstabed7381]

The internet being united with the same opinion is actually something really hard to accomplish, so props to that

[@BrinkleMcBruh]

Agreed

[@archieprime]

It feels like it was written by a really vindictive woman that was the Velma in high school, got bullied for it, and never moved on with her life

[@TooMuchSascha]

That's because it *was* written by a really vindictive woman - a bigoted one too.

[@FrankDickerstein]

Yeah, her name was Mindy Kaling.

[@babyjiren9676]

@@FrankDickerstein also a raging, rampant lesbian man-hater and full time twitter woketard

[@MonsiourPotatoHead]

it was

[@southernsnowman7788]

your comment shows me that keyboard can also be used as a flamethrower. 🔥🔥🔥

[@AbysmalGaming]

Shaggy is so powerful he removed himself from this awful show as to not tarnish his perfect reputation.

[@jeremyscoutfan77]

Lol

[@AstroTom]

And he took Scooby with him, leaving a bootleg Shaggy in his place.

[@ninetozero920]

like ZOINKS scoob

[@mollykircher3104]

He knew it was what he had to do.

[@dacheesecat6976]

Listening to this, I’m thinking of a head cannon where Scooby and the real Shaggy are alive but their friends have turned into *this* and they’re trying to save them from this horrible fate

[@goodfellabeats]

I keep hearing reviews ask "who is this for?". The answer is easy, the show is for Mindy and the people in her circle. Show creators, actors and writers are so detached from the rest of us. They make shows for themselves and get upset at us for not liking it.

[@glarnboudin4462]

It feels like that Power Puff Girls reboot from CW, or Rivendale - just this shitty thing that should have been left in the early 2000s.

[@goodfellabeats]

@@glarnboudin4462 Couldn't agree more.

[@jimtekkit]

The fact that this version of Velma is portrayed as an extremely narcissistic asshole and Mindy says she really relates to her, that says everything we need to know.

[@sadie_cat]

Basically it's for racist man-haters who don't know what Scooby-Doo is

[@Edbrad]

The show is made for unlikeable bitter resentful SJW’s like there main character. They actually think she is a role model. They always make their heros into villains and don’t realize it

[@mollusckscramp4124]

"She judges everyone, she's rude to everyone, she insults everyone..." Ah, so basically she's Mindy Kaling

[@tomjackson4374]

I actually enjoy this show and She-Hulk in particular because it is a wide open window on how upper class (I use that term loosely) over the hill feminist women view the world. Only they would think these shows are good but what they do is display their hatred of men, whites and any society that refuses to accept how wonderful, insightful and great they are. Any man who has broken up with that toxic girlfriend we have all had at one time or another knows what the very first thing she will say to anyone she can get to listen. "He's got a small dick." How many small dick "jokes" are in this show? This show is written by those very toxic girlfriends all grown up and no longer girlfriend material. This show is Mindy desperately trying to stay relevant by lashing out at everyone who doesn't think she is stunning and brave.

[@giorgaross9953]

Yes

[@stevewalsh1935]

You beat me to it.

[@PapiGalleto]

Mindy has always been off, self hating to seek validation and always pushed the “I only date white men” onto her shows also personal life. She’s so cringe, a clown, an entire circus 🤡🎪

[@Takokujin07]

Self insert characters be like

[@zepperman2679]

This show is the embodiment of "I expect nothing and I'm still let down."

[@Benthino]

”Our standards were low but holy FUCK!” is another apt description.

[@Joa7_7]

I expected it to be awesome so you can imagine the letdown

[@Imbalanxd]

I think its more like "I heard the premise and hated it immediately, and I'm glad its failing"

[@Drakengard82]

It's baffling to imagine people writing this shit and coming back home calling this a good day at the job

[@adolforamos9518]

No it's more like we said it was gonna be bad and you took it for a challenge

[@RolandWee-BeyBrice]

I bet if Scooby was in the show there would be cringe jokes about him humping Velma's leg, or licking his own balls. That's the top tier level comedy we're dealing with here.

[@DeflatingAtheism]

Even if it were just, “huh huh, Shaggy’s a stoner, huh huh,” it would be better than what we have.

[@msthecommentator2863]

He'd be a little yappy thing and when *Norville* is pressed about having such a wimpy dog, he'd say something like, "What, you think I'd own a great dane or something because I'm black? Tch, racist much?"

[@joyfulleader5075]

@@msthecommentator2863 Idk why, but you specifically making Norville's name bold was really funny to me

[@liluthetemperance]

I would love to see Scooby in the show, but instead of actual Scooby it's just Brian Griffin painted brown

[@FourOf92000]

that or since strictly speaking it wouldn't break Harkness' Rule Scoob n Velma would have a secret relationship behind Daphne's back ... that's a thing I've typed now

[@davemillet4160]

"Stinkier than three garbage trucks having sex in a sulphur factory." Thank you from the bottom of my heart for posting this. I don't think there's a better description of VELMA on the internet.😂

[@Nerdyplaneresident]

This line alone seems funnier than the entire show

[@xnopyt-lmfao]

in a burning sulphur factory*

[@superpokemonbros.9441]

All can think is 🎵 Two trucks having sex, Two trucks having sex 🎵

[@leviuzumaki3903]

So basically they turned the shy awkward kind likable Velma and turned her into a complete toxic unlikeable character that everyone absolutely hates.

[@Heike--]

They decided she must be a lesbian; ergo they need to have a series about her. And in this series, she represents the woke creators point of view and constantly trashes everyone who isn't woke. Fred, the all-American boy, has a small penis. Shaggy is a contemptible incel who Velma can freely abuse. And Daphne is obviously her love interest because that's what the woke creators think.

[@NateDates]

Yeah hit the nail right on the head for that one

[@leviuzumaki3903]

@@Heike-- the thing is Velma can be made into a lesbian character (and it can actually be done quite well with the characters personality and character traits) that isn’t the issue to me, the issue is they threw away all of her key characteristics and were way to focused on pushing a dumb agenda and making it woke that they completely threw out everything that made Scooby doo, well scooby doo. They made Fred (who was the likable leader that was the heart of the gang even if he was a bit dense at times) into a daddy’s money rich kid and completely demeaned him for it. They completely missed the point of shaggys character, and they tried to make daphne and Velma the stars of the show but completely and utterly failed to understand their characters, and tried to make it as woke as possible and completely destroyed the scooby doo franchise in the process.

[@ShaggyRogers1]

@@leviuzumaki3903 I don't really care that they made Velma/Daphne lesbians. Did those characters have canon relationships with male members of the group in the past? Sure, but I can get behind the sexuality thing, that doesn't really matter too much in the long run. Completely rewriting the character personalities at a base level, while missing everything that made each of the characters tolerable(let alone likable...), is where they show that they don't actually care about the source property.

[@weegee9072]

Basically

[@EE-iv5ej]

I love how we have modern shows that try to make "strong, tough, witty, intelligent, and confident characters" by making them outright bullies. And the best part is I'm betting whoever's creating these consider themselves as champions for anti-bullying, anti-oppression, anti-bad, yet look at this.

[@Rmoose369]

Yep as long as its directed at the correct crowd it's somehow ok. What a bunch of clowns

[@beep898]

they're not even doing it right. literally everyone's agreeing this characterization is for like 2 different crowds at once and it's not working out for either of them

[@frb5237]

I don't know if I should be shocked or not that all of the shows that are, for lack of a better word "woke", are just straight up mean

[@silverstar8868]

Almost like all the talk of the progressive style people, when put into practice, turn out to he just as bad as what they claim to be fighting against.

[@_Mamimi]

It’s always the ones who are still mad they weren’t popular in high school, 15 years ago, who make this cringe cartoons/comics.

[@MoonWielder]

Velma is the only Scooby-Doo show that no one would mind getting cancelled.

[@arzfan29]

Get cool scooby doo

[@burgerkingfries4941]

@@yeaman9844 No he didn't + that music is dogshit

[@burgerkingfries4941]

@@yungzyonTV No you don't + delete your account

[@burgerkingfries4941]

@logandesk No you don't

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

I could see minorities being upset. After all it was made by them, for them. HBO’s version of FUBU.

[@SAVOTYB]

Mindy admitted to sexual assault in an interview about the show and had threatened her producers if they told anyone about it and laughed along with the crowd… the double standard is insane and the fact they can laugh at the fact she literally admitted to sexual assault is insane. She’s a terrible, narcissistic, selfish, and self absorbed human being who doesn’t deserve any type of respect or grace. She should’ve been “cancelled” a long time ago.

[@mr.classicragememerook96]

This universe is so confusing.

[@Lionelllogan]

Shes always been so shitty. Cant stand her

[@novhatorious]

It sounds like a fanfiction that nobody would ever write, yet somehow exists

[@itsdrea2353]

Oh, you haven’t been on archiveofourown have you

[@IAmJeff7]

@@itsdrea2353that still exist? 😂

[@memelordmcgillicutty7677]

Don't insult fanfiction writers like that. SOME of them are actually talented.

[@madtwist2364]

You know that feeling where you ponder over deliberately writing something awful for the sole purpose of pissing people off, but are stopped by your common sense? Where your conscience rightfully interrupts with "Yeah, but this is actual garbage and everyone will hate you for creating such a thing"? This show is the result of (fanfic) writers with no such feelings, who proceed to deliver the most vile shit you've ever seen straight into your eyes.

[@natkatmac]

Will it's basically a self insert so that checks out

[@relyann]

Most people didn't even get past episode 1. Yet here we have Charlie, who watched 2 episodes. Absolute legend. Sacrificed his sanity for our sake.

[@olivierdubreuil-gagnon2201]

What else would you expect from the man who saved the Hunger Games franchise?

[@CR-nb1vs]

You can see the pain on his face and hear it in his voice. This show killed a little bit of Charlie's spirit. I hope he was able to watch a little Captain Pronin to feel better.

[@i20coyote85]

1 minute was too much

[@AFC2022]

I Watched Two of Them as Well So, Charlie and Others Like me That Were Able to do That, Are Legends lol

[@FizzyPepschnee]

I only made it through 1 and a quarter episodes

[@purplehaze2358]

The reason Velma is such an unlikeable character is because she's literally just a fictionalized version of her voice actress, who is, by all conceivable metrics, kind of a terrible person.

[@sillycookie]

I looked her up and wow she's awful

[@patricksalone5871]

How is she a terrible person?

[@natkatmac]

@@patricksalone5871 growing up in tinsel town kinda warps your perception of how normal people behave.

[@jhh764]

@@patricksalone5871 Because she made this trash show

[@Fireholder1]

@@patricksalone5871 The titular character is based on her, and voiced by her. She's the second-in-command executive producer for the show. One of the production companies that made the show is hers. The only thing that is at all relatable to the original Scooby IP is the character names they've hijacked for this egregious waste of animation talent.

[@NokoFace]

Scooby did the opposite of Scrappy: Scrappy was a bad character who joined a good show. Scooby was a good character who left a bad show.

[@USALibertarian]

95% of hack directors: "wouldn't it be cool if..." Everyone: "No. No it wouldn't."

[@TheMeanMongoose]

95% of hack directors: "I've had this amazing, ORIGINAL idea!" Studios: "What do you need?" 95% of hack directors: "A beloved childhood IP." Fandom: "Fuck all the way off and when you're there, keep fucking off some more."

[@crystalramos3946]

I think it would!😆

[@ryanlesner0000ninja]

Who was removing the brain's from high school girls? What did the murder do with the brains? Why target high school girls?

[@dailydoseofnothing6217]

@@TheMeanMongoose or what The Boys' creator once said to haters, "fuck off to the sun"

[@minuteman_deacon96]

Here I am glad that Splinter Cell wasn't ruined by hack development teams...BECAUSE THEY ALL LEFT lol

[@rainbowcthulhu6299]

I like how Fred went from the smartest one next to Velma to being a literal punching bag. My boy didn't deserve this 😭

[@Teddy-se8qb]

hes a white straight male. of course they think he deserves it.

[@Tangarisu]

Hes white, what did you expect, they hate you if your white, genuinely and unashamedly

[@phoenixxxashez]

God forbid you have a non douchy smart white guy in media anymore. The butchering of Fred's character and the way they made fun of him made me more mad than anything else in this show.

[@kara-mari9909]

i mean theyve been doing that for a while in other scooby media, not just velma

[@anii2987]

...it's almost like certain writers on the show are extremely bitter towards white dudes. People forget that inclusivity means including EVERYONE equally. Not turning the tables to get revenge.

[@lupus_aeterna7793]

Velma is the creators' self-insert of this show. It's so embarrassing to see how different Velma and the others are from the Scooby Gang that we all know.

[@LockeRobsta]

Cartoons have always had self insert characters, it juat shows that modern creators are terrible people. That's why it's soo good that Velma is getting universally shat on - the writers/creators that self-insert need to be shown that their personally is total fucking trash.

[@_Mamimi]

Self insert cartoons seem to be the next big thing. “Are you an overweight asshat no one likes and judges everyone but expect to be respected, make a comic”

[@klonoafan2012]

@@LockeRobsta makes senses as the creator is a massive d bag and a hardcore terf

[@PoofyFancyPants]

@@LockeRobsta They probably won't take much more away than woke money. Can you imagine as easily as I can that they'll never take the time to entertain any amount of criticism? Even after getting cancelled, it'll be another person's fault.

[@rrtttfthxg2143]

The waffle house has found its new host

[@RandomSwiftie13]

As an amateur animator myself, I feel so bad for the animators who worked on this because I just know they spent hours trying to perfect the animation only for everyone to sh¡t on this show because of the screen writers poor writing.

[@margarethmichelina5146]

Honestly, the animation is not bad because it similar to Venture Bros. But the problem is they race-swapped 3 of the main characters of Scooby Doo and makes them unlikable. The only character who still same is Fred but he becomes an insecure spoiled rich kid who can't cut a steak. Probably Shaggy or Norville in this show isn't a bad person from what I heard but is it really neccesary to make him fall in love with Velma who is toxic as hell in this show. And Daphne is a drug dealer who has 2 lesbian moms? What the fuck?

[@YouKnowImOnMyPeriodYah]

I love the art style, the way Velma is drawn is very nice to look at But the writing…the writing makes we wish humanity WAS destroyed by nuclear warfare during the Cold War

[@vikinginfidel4293]

I feel this same way about game devs, the people that are actually coding the game and making all the graphics. They just want to give it their all, but it's the suits in the corporate office that rush them into releasing an unfinished, broken game. The suits put profit over entertainment, I generally like capitalism, but it needs to stay out of the entertainment industries. If you make an entertaining show, game, or movie the money will roll in naturally.

[@rastyplayzzofficial]

the screenwriters will now blame the studio executives 😂😂😂

[@AlexSmith-tp7xu]

Velma being a terrible human being towards everyone else is an accurate representation of the people who actually like this show.

[@genericcommentarychannel5343]

People like this show?

[@lacrossehammy124]

@@genericcommentarychannel5343 if they did, then thats what they would be like.

[@genericcommentarychannel5343]

@@lacrossehammy124 Trueee

[@AegisAuras]

@@genericcommentarychannel5343 the bots that gave it a 7% instead of 0% liked it. Actually no, that’s not fair to the bots. They weren’t created with free will.

[@SniperJade71]

@@genericcommentarychannel5343 There was somebody who was ass mad about it on Reddit a few days ago, so yeah. Somehow this abominable show has fans. I guess some people just have shit taste.

[@randomlyfactual1943]

Are you a hero for watching Velma? No. You are a martyr

[@Kdkendk]

Jesus sacrificed himself for us yet again, and he'll likely do it again once that abomination get another episode.

[@harisu8247]

Sehid

[@JadeFoxAlpha]

For our sins, he gaveth

[@sumysim3245]

@@Kdkendk That's takin it too far buddy hehe...this show does suck though.

[@kasrkin5488]

A masochiste one

[@mclink99]

They should have called this show "Mindy's Mysteries", which was originally what they had in mind until they thought "No no, make it about Velma. Let's ruin the Scooby-Doo franchise!"

[@insertjokeh3r3]

Nah the show dumps on scooby doo all the time so they knew it was gonna be a scooby show the entire time.

[@edcuddy9234]

Lke actually. Mindy Kaling is just not funny. Besides the office every project she has been a part of has just been insufferable. I could not stand her character on the Office either. I didn't mind oscar, I liked stanley and didn't like andy or angela. While they all had an occasional moment or line that was good I could not wait for them to get off screen. Mindy Kaling Peaked in the office. Apparently she did lots of writing there but now her writing has regressed to old tired jokes. Maybe it's bad delivery or she is out of ideas or her original ideas are worn out. I think it's the latter.

[@matthewbless3335]

@edcuddy9234 Champions is alright actually if you haven't seen it. Nothing groundbreaking, but I definitely didn't think it was awful either.

[@TeddyLovesAxl]

Ruh roh Raggy! Lol😂

[@cementbox4430]

@@insertjokeh3r3 scooby show without the scooby is just show

[@Clorox-enjoyer]

I love that all of my friends said that I was narrow-minded because I said this show was going to flop. They told me it would be good, but they couldn't have been more wrong.

[@zebefreod871]

Your friends should touch some grass

[@jacksongibbs8998]

@@zebefreod871 And also stop smoking it

[@trawlins396]

You have bad friends

[@carlosfred8673]

I have a firm belief HBO Max intentionally hired the worst possible team to create an adult animated show so they can send it out to die and use it as justification for them cutting animation from the service in general.

[@shayziekaizie]

I was talking about this the other day with my sister (I’m someone who wants to work in animation) and she said this exact thing. It’s very likely being used as a scapegoat to terminate animation and say no one likes it, when it’s not true. We love animation, we just don’t want to see whatever Velma is supposed to be

[@Lucarioguild7]

Honestly that makes a whole lot of sense actually, I was trying to wrap my head around how they can cancel basically everything they were making but somehow this dodged the chopping block but yeah if they're trying to justify purging all animation this is a great way to do it.

[@anomalocaris2593]

That makes more sense than any other explanation, even more than the theory that Mindy having black mail material

[@sleeeto]

This actually holds weight. I’m subscribing to this theory.

[@bladewolf39]

I wouldn't be surprised that this could be the reason. The jabs at adults who watch cartoons, the constant punching down on people who watched it cuz they liked the original IP, I'm only hoping that this backfires spectacularly in HBO Max's face when people aren't saying "We hate animation" and instead saying "We loved our old shows, bring them back"

[@isaiahtraben1429]

“I’m glad they took Scooby behind the barn and put him down, because he did not deserve this. This is a fate worse than death.” LMFAO 💀

[@Zane618]

I kind of agree who knows what crap they would put him into after what they did to other characters.

[@ryanlesner0000ninja]

Who was removing the brain's from high school girls? What did the murder do with the brains? Why target high school girls?

[@tinfoilpapercut4613]

Don't u know? Scoobi is a black chick norville has a crush on

[@ryanlesner0000ninja]

@@tinfoilpapercut4613 Who is Norville?

[@the3fellas753]

@@ryanlesner0000ninja shaggys replacement in the show

[@astraeatheapus3647]

The entirety of this show can be boiled down into "Look at how they massacred my boy"

[@DrakeMeatRider]

i was hoping for a ui-shaggy joke and it didn’t even deliver

[@nickbrothwood1238]

My thoughts exactly.

[@Terraio]

@@weirdyoutubechannels well i looked up "my banner" and didn't get anything

[@datdude3327]

Surely this whole show is one big joke on the consumer

[@ZitiPatrol]

For the record, The Godfather is PogChamp and when Sonny died it was WidePeepoSad.

[@DaWinglessFly]

Velma: the show for people who wanted revenge on their high school classmates but didn’t have the nuts to be a school shooter.

[@greywalker505]

Probably for the best that this is the outcome.

[@boomingbob1579]

They managed to piss off every fandom from every place possible in a span of 52 years

[@Spidsle]

Years?

[@boomingbob1579]

@@Spidsle yeah the show is 52 year old so they pissed off every fan in those year span

[@frostbitepup87]

ah yes, RAGNOROK

[@Marquis-Sade]

@@boomingbob1579 But only now, right?

[@boomingbob1579]

@@Marquis-Sade Wdym

[@fatih8053]

this show being hated by literally everyone kinda restored my faith in humanity

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

Everyone came together to stand in a circle and kick this show over and over. As it deserves

[@lshanksy1]

Haha so crazy but true! The unifying power of mutual hatred!

[@carbonc6065]

Agreed.

[@realbiggestlegofanconnor7007]

Yeah same, my faith in humanity was nonexistent after the “giant” incident but knowing humanity is sane enough to know how terribly horrendous this show is actually restores a little bit of my faith in humanity

[@shaunfernandes8995]

yeah

[@sephie8681]

It always gets said, but the way Charlie can come up with the most creative way of saying shit is unmatched

[@vexial12]

"Sup guys it's manlet tiny man white shirt here. Just wanted to say this thing im talking about it fat stinky poo pee. Well that's about it. Alright see ya"

[@nitrosherbert888]

avgn

[@EmiliFaust]

I think his descriptions made me laugh more than I would if I did waste time watching the show he's reviewing lol

[@DrakeOola]

Shit is on the nipple.

[@BlastinRope]

styxenhammer blows anyone out of the water when it comes to eloquent elocution.

[@tumsfestival8027]

I watched it not knowing anything. My gf sat down to watch it with me. The second episode ended, and she turned to me and said “wow….this…this is really bad.” And I started dying laughing. I was just so in shock about how bad it was.

[@legendarydonut9247]

‘This show is stinkier than 3 garbage trucks having sex in a sulfur factory’ Best analogy ever. This imagery is beautiful

[@mysterystainontherug6290]

The only thing that would have made it truer is if a septic truck was watching in the corner.

[@BigSmoke-bu6ib]

This show is hot trash that accidentally got tossed in recycling.

[@dustydd]

That one's gonna stick with me.

[@KB-bh9hp]

Someone needs to film those garbage trucks having sex. Would be a better show than this.

[@kauanjos3199]

This copy of Cars is strange

[@mobster503]

"Three Garbage Trucks having sex in a sulpher factory" was an entirely funnier joke than anything this show could ever dream of

[@divinitygaming8673]

Sulfur*

[@leeham6230]

@@divinitygaming8673 you are in supherable

[@aelechdeepestflame4347]

*uhemme* sUfFeRaBlE!

[@Carlosk12]

I am the persona 5 Royal one more edition

[@614-Diamond]

@@divinitygaming8673 my brain did the same thing instantly Ty

[@ssantos88]

Velma sounds like the type of person that if you see her getting bully, you’ll go to the bullies and thank them for their service.

[@sandradozai4192]

Or join them

[@aaronlandry3934]

“Bullies”, more like reasonable people she’s harassing

[@emissaryofcharybdis105]

Like that movie Return To Sleepaway Camp with the fat kid who kept yelling "your ass stinks." He was constantly bullied, but when he wasn't, he'd bully someone himself and act horrible to everyone else. Basically take that character, make him "self-aware" and "meta," and make it Scooby Doo-related for whatever reason.

[@ethanor]

Sounds like this show is a fanfic from someone who was an asshole in school and got picked on for it, so they "identified" with Velma and thought she was just like them, completely missing that Velma is a perfectly nice person and not just a geek trope.

[@weirdyoutubechannels]

look up my banner for youtube alternative!

[@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns]

Mindy Kalin thought that she identified with Velma, not realizing that Toot from _Drawn Together_ is a perfect representation of her.

[@collinkeyser6827]

Please Don't Compare Drawn Together With This DUMPSTER FIRE. Drawn Together Is Actually GOOD & FUNNY.

[@trawlins396]

It's Kalig

[@TsukiKageTora]

The fact she has the audacity to claim Fred as rude for saying he has a condition to not notice people who are hot when she, herself, judges everyone by looks and smarts. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@GreedyOrange]

@Crickets key word probably

[@joelmcknight9995]

@Crickets yeahhhhh actually a weird flex. Emotional and social intelligence is more relevant day to day than academic intelligence fr fr

[@emberpowertcg7692]

☕

[@MrNoot39449]

@@joelmcknight9995 Eww

[@aaronlandry3934]

@Crickets That and people that start off by telling you how smart they are about 1/8ths as smart as they think they are

[@ayreonautc1608]

Velma managed quite a feat: unite the Scooby-Doo fanbase in hating something more than Scrappy-Doo.

[@mrnobody6609]

You took that straight to a 10.

[@pedroyuuhi]

Underrated comment

[@Africanhorror]

😂😂facts

[@inerlotechnologies4908]

Hearing “Scooby-Doo fanbase” is beyond surreal to me. I never really made the connection that I am in the Scooby-Doo fanbase until now.

[@STULF20X6]

SPLLLAAAAAATTTT

[@moddy121]

Velma: Insults fans and dramatically changes the core characters. Also Velma: Why does everyone hate our show!?

[@stephenthomas1492]

You know a show is REALLY bad when both sides of the aisle hate it. From what I understand, a lot of the folks on the left are claiming the show is a conservative take on diversity. How they arrived at that conclusion, I have no idea. It's like claiming a fart came from a person with no butt-hole.

[@control_the_pet_population]

To be fair to these adult children parading around as "creatives", they've been told for the last two decades or so that anybody who disagrees with them or doesn't like what they are doing is obviously just an 'ist' or a 'phobe'. Nothing they do is ever shit, it's the ever oppressive society holding them down, man! It would be funny if they were just failing with their own creations and ruining one or two networks.. But instead they are pissing over the entirety of pop culture that came before them... because can't you see how ohhh so enlightened and righteous they are?!?

[@crimzinlane4152]

@@stephenthomas1492 That is interesting that "both side of the aisle" are not liking it. My guess is the show probably lean or pander so heavy on one side that it appears to be mocking to the people they are trying to cater.

[@nologin5375]

Higher ups: it must be because it’s animated!

[@concretecat]

@@nologin5375 Lmfaooo

[@logansisson5949]

Saying it's the best animated show on HBO max is like saying your mom/dad was the best mom/dad you ever had when they're the only mom/dad you've ever had

[@SeriSeashell]

What about people with step-parents?

[@logansisson5949]

You're overthinking this, it's not that deep

[@kokokoka1131]

The way Fred and Daphne were portrayed in this show literally made me so mad,I never got mad at any adaptations,yeah many are bad but this one killed me

[@LeonardTheWizard]

i died by the fact there was no scooby, i died in not the laughing way

[@lazerdim17001]

the black community clowning on it too everyone hated it 💀💀

[@Spiderpunkrocks]

They base it on what they "think" the internet would like. I always hate how Stan twitter people would put Velma on pedestal and disrespect my girl Daphne who did nothing but be pretty and unproblematic. Like why is the world these days trying to convince me to dislike Daphne and it ain't working. Poor Fred also doesn't deserve to be drag so what if he looks like he has privilege he's still has always been a likable chatacter who has his own personality more than having a small p. like why do them like that they have always been admirable they look like the popular kids in school hanging out with the nerd and weird kid and his dorky dog on ghost adventures and that pretty damn cool

[@salvalente9378]

The worst part was what they did to my boy shaggy. He's been cucked and they took our stoner icon away from us!

[@leeksayain1024]

@@lazerdim17001 you fuckin right Soon as I seen how they changed Velma and no scooby I said fuck nope especially how they probably made it so she don’t like shaggy no more yeah they fucked up big time

[@sirfroze]

I really love the part where they serve Scooby justice by not having him be apart of this abomination

[@margarethmichelina5146]

Since everyone but Fred got their race swapped, they could just make him a chihuahua.

[@raikohzx4323]

The executives decided on that one, and the staff were already not wanting him in for the "tone of the show." Anyone up high could've seen including Scooby in this would've been a blow to the icon, but apparently screwing up everyone else is totally a-okay to be greenlit.

[@somedew9317]

True i hate franchises being ruined by some execs green-lighting anything

[@Daredax]

@@margarethmichelina5146 Fred was too white to be race swapped lmao

[@bobsanderz3005]

All dogs go to heaven

[@Taneuma_563]

This show is a spit in the face to not only every animation fan in the world, but to the people who helped make Scooby-Doo the fun mystery cartoon that it is.

[@Takokujin07]

I mean, I don’t even consider it a scooby doo cartoon. It’s just some weird “woke” parody of it to me. Like a bizarro version

[@absolutez3r058]

@@Takokujin07 This show is an insult to "woke" people

[@isaiasramirez8224]

*was

[@jesusmylordhegaveitall1324]

Lmao as if American cartoons weren't dog water to begin with 🤣💀

[@Username12038]

@@jesusmylordhegaveitall1324 vive la france

[@Blahsheep]

I think the original show was already pretty "Inclusive" or whatever the word they use nowadays. It had two woman, two men, two popular kids and two less popular kids and a talking dog. And they all came together even with them all being different people. It was great.

[@tripleavatar333]

And Mystery Inc had this pretty badass black DJ lady that was also a former member of the previous Mystery Inc generation. I mean, that version of the show was a matter of taste, but at least it was much more watchable than this. 😂

[@fart63]

I mean that’s not really what diversity is but it doesn’t matter Lmfao, the show was fine as it is. Mindy kaling doesn’t care about diversity she just thought it would make “the kids” like her show. Changing the race of characters in an ANIMATED show is just weird. This isn’t what diversity is

[@Vekcrazah]

@@fart63 At the time, it is quite the diversity it needed to represent. If they wanted to revamp the show with more diversity, they'd just add honorary members because messing with the main cast is disrespectful to the origins.

[@margarethmichelina5146]

Also, the Mystery Inc. Are full of 4 teenagers with one talking dog with different backgrounds. Fred is coming from rich family but he's very down to Earth and likes to help everyone and also act as the leader and he's also likes to prepare the traps. Daphne is a pretty girl from rich family and she used to be the damsel in distress only later they tone it down and makes her more vulnarable Velma is a nerd and she's the brain of the group and she also likes to lose her glasses clumsily Shaggy is a stoner and a coward but he has to face his fear to solve the face Scooby-Doo is Shaggy's dog who's also similar to him and they both also love snacks. And just like any dogs, he's loyal to his Master and anyone who cares of him.

[@Wangrock_hardJohnson]

Or even better than changing the race of already existing characters, how about just make your own characters.

[@sander5573]

Velma makes Scrappy look like a well-written, likable character

[@pabloacevedo1151]

WYM!!!! scrapy Is cool

[@toyohimeyeswatatsuki6917]

Don't insult Scrappy like that

[@VenosValentine]

I loved Scrappy bro. You trippin

[@shawnwilcowski]

Scrappy always was cool James Gunn just fucked his character up on purpose

[@r0cketm4n34]

@@shawnwilcowski he is the 60s aquaman

[@michaelhiltz7846]

This show literally feels like petty revenge against people who didn't like you in high school. Not the people who bullied you in high school, just the people who didn't like you enough to want to be your friend. If the show is any indication, you don't need Mystery Inc to figure out why no one liked the creator in high school

[@shadowsta9]

OMG bro you're almost there, if you had one more braincell then you'd be able to understand that Velma's character is purposefully written that way. She harshly judges people only to be proven wrong soon after. It's almost like they wrote her to be a bad person so that she could gradually become a better one over the season. She's complex, like an actual person. I'm sorry she's not as easy of a character to understand as Goku.

[@iceefear1720]

@@shadowsta9 fair, but even so it’s such a lazy writing technique that only provides a sort of linear development. However, it could be done well, but Velma is literally an ass to almost everyone for no reason in particular except maybe Norville if you will. And despite many other problems with the character and show itself, the real icing on the cake is that this is supposed to be a parody of Scooby Doo. With barely any mystery and plenty of one-note characters and unfunny jokes, it’s just a better looking big mouth with a confusion of who’s target audience it’s for other than the people who made it. Velma is not nearly as complex as you say it is, and even goku has far better writing than her.

[@atriox7221]

In that case it’s not Velma, or any other scooby doo characters and it should be an entirely independent animation with no attachment since all the scooby-doo characters are fully fleshed out and well done in ways drastically different from how this show redid them. Also they’ve gone about this whole this atrociously

[@shadowsta9]

@@iceefear1720 REALISTIC CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT IS LAZY WRITING? Omg you are actually braindead. Velma is a "weird" loner that judges people harshly so that she can have an excuse later. Ex. (I didn't like them anyways so who cares if they don't like me) She is scared to be vulnerable because being vulnerable opens the possibility of being rejected. That's why she's an ass to everyone. She's not a good person towards Norville. She uses him like a tool and doesn't think about his feelings. Norville is a super simp that either can't or won't accept that the feelings he has for Velma aren't reciprocated. You can't *make* people like you. These are relatable issues but most people can't even pick up on them because they have the same issues themselves. The show is a mirror. It's attempting to show you your flaws. But most people aren't smart enough to understand so they think it's just making fun of them. Big Mouth is the exact same. If you got a small dick and are mean to your friends like Nick. You'll either: 1. Identify the issue within yourself, laugh, then work to fix the problem. or 2. Think the show is making fun of you. It's an intelligence problem. People do not like to self reflect and look inside themselves, it hurts. Introspection is society's Kryptonite. Sometimes it hurts a lot but how else would you grow as person? The show isn't a parody of Scooby Doo. It's more of a spin and a prequel. The mysteries are Velma's missing mom and who's the Killer. The show will end when the characters go through their character arcs of being flawed people and at the end they'll likely resemble "The Gang" from the OG show in personality, but then it'll be over. I guarantee you in the last episodes they find Scooby but not during.

[@iceefear1720]

@@shadowsta9 you know what, that made me think a little more about the show, and maybe it’s got more to it than i give it credit for. still not my kind of show, and definitely not a fun watch in my opinion, but your explanation helped me understand why the show does what it does and the message behind it all. thanks for the insight.

[@PrimisRulz]

"Stinkier than 3 garbage trucks having sex in a sulphur factory" Charles has such a way with words

[@kughin]

Literally cried hearing ts at work 😭

[@colormecoco3779]

I gagged 😊

[@pinkleWeenkies]

my favorite thing about him. his ability to come up with funny metaphors at the top of his head is a real talent, lots of people wish they could do that

[@Extremezotako]

that joke is funnier than the velma writing team

[@ratboygirl]

@emailpenguinz0mgtgmailcomnobody’s falling for that bro 😭

[@dylanbuchanan6511]

“I started sweating from how much I wasn’t laughing.” I never thought I’d hear Charlie say that but it feels so real

[@dylanallardice]

Velma has literally a kids show level writing and characters but has blood, swearing, drugs and nudity to make it look like an adult animated show. By Kids show, i mean like Sesame Street or Play School, not good shows like Gravity Falls or SpongeBob

[@Ruggi21]

Literally the modern kid show recipe

[@iswm]

And a heavy sprinkling of blatant, overt racism

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

And you’re surprised? What did you expect it to be?

[@YourDadsOnlyFan]

@@Lawrence_Talbot Good?

[@tengentoppagurrenlmao5907]

@@Lawrence_Talbot mediocre? At best?

[@AdamFunk]

I wonder if someone told Mindy Kalhing "hey, you kind of sound like Velma!" - and after a few laughs, two hours, and ten beers, they had an entire season of a show written, recorded, and storyboarded. I refuse to believe any more thought went into it than that.

[@zackmash851]

not a lot of thought goes into anything mindy does...

[@-aquamarine-324]

@@zackmash851 a lot of ppl dislike her rn not sure why tho

[@aaronlandry3934]

@@-aquamarine-324 She writes terrible self-insert characters that are horrible people and horribly unpleasant to watch/be around. Do you expect people to like her?

[@Sonichero151]

The success of the Mindy Project was a mistake.......

[@zackmash851]

@@-aquamarine-324 she speaks openly about sexually harassing former employees, she's threatened to fire people for non work related things, she's a TERF, and a very selfish conservative

[@felix_a_fiend]

I can’t believe they took the OG nice popular kids (and the most realistic portrayal of how popular kids act) and made them horrible. We need Justice for Fred and Daphne.

[@njyankeesfan]

Our institutions, especially Hollywood, are basically chock-full of losers who can't get over their childhood days and so are trying to make our lives as miserable as theirs are.

[@mastersitorou8289]

And Scooby I've really started to vent about this mistake being created, whoever greenlit this crap is going to live to regret it and not only regrets, the shear messages from the original Scooby-Doo fanbase is going to be a furnace of texts slowly roasting.

[@Callum6163]

@@mastersitorou8289 apparently scooby will be a black girl named scoobi and shaggys love interest

[@Octopugilist]

It's been a long time since high school but I distinctly remember the popular kids being popular because they were charming people. Anyone who acted like a snob or a sociopath got mocked

[@felix_a_fiend]

@@Octopugilist literally!

[@tgsachris]

Robot chicken once made a sketch where the Scooby gang is all murdered by an ax murderer with the exception of Velma who bangs said murderer. That 5 minute skit had more accurate characters and at the very least didn't forget Scooby Doo

[@gamerchosis6666]

Oh that's where they meet Jason Voorhees from Friday The 13th

[@naterivers6107]

It gives warmth to my cold black heart to know Scooby-Doo is remembered so fondly this show ended up being universally hated. Edit: (Holy crap this comment blew up and I was not expecting that. Thanks everyone!)

[@dontevenask7014]

As a show that came out in the 70's, basically everybody alive now watched it growing up as kids. Anything going off that path that has been put in concrete was doomed from the start, they should've just continued Mystery Incorporated, or made a new IP but clearly it didn't sell to the network the first time or two so they decided to just make it Scooby-Doo but with no Scooby-Doo

[@notthecia4486]

Much like scrappy doo

[@Pepe-pq3om]

@Logan Stairs it actually is, I'm impressed. Where did you get your inspirations from?

[@armondtanz]

Woke feminists who men hate? Discuss

[@MrJames-tw3so]

@Brumalia Works what does IP Mean?

[@prematuredgravy8033]

Velma is the type of show to suddenly bring Scooby back as a cat

[@bradlasalle2888]

And they make him speak fluently and 90% of his dialogue is just how he identifies as a dog💀

[@Iluvpie6]

Watch it happen

[@lorrainebrunner2490]

xD. True, true..

[@chiyun2b2b2t9]

screenshooting this

[@limitedbom2206]

Comes back and first line is “ruh roh, red ras rall reiner Reeehehehe”

[@NoNameX_X0]

“i’m not a hero” said the hero who saved countless souls from having to see Velma.

[@Fireholder1]

He didn't save me from anything. I was never going to watch it, not even out of morbid curiosity.

[@AvilioAmici]

Was gonna watch it out of curiosity and this completely convinced me not to

[@NoNameX_X0]

@@AvilioAmici let’s gooo, less views for velma!

[@Shawn6751]

@@NoNameX_X0 I'm doing a whole season so I can trash it.

[@TemujinMSM]

I hear he has a big wiener too, biggest in the whole house.

[@sweetrain9482]

Not the Velma we needed, nor the one we deserved.

[@zebefreod871]

It's the Velma this generation gets

[@conure512]

HBO saying it was their biggest animated premier ever is like Matt Damon in The Martian saying "I am the greatest botanist on this entire planet"

[@anyar339]

LMFAO

[@ciscornBIG]

The young man in the video made the same joke so wtf are you doing?

[@ruuniek]

i am so glad i get this joke, having the book for 2 years and just read it :)

[@brodiemorris2081]

@llyis if you enjoyed the martian I highly recommend another book by the same author titled "Project: Hail Mary". It's pretty much more of the same with a new situation that they put the protagonist in.

[@aguywholikesfrogs6424]

@@brodiemorris2081 Hail Mary is good

[@katlyndobransky2419]

“I’m glad they took Scooby behind the barn and put him down” was so much funnier than any minute of that show

[@syd5350]

Fr😭😭

[@Kinnakeeter]

Did him like Old Yeller

[@Darden7465]

The didn't put him down. He ready the script and said hell no!

[@turtledemon.x]

"stinkier than three garbage trucks having sex in a sulfur factory"

[@Kinnakeeter]

@@Darden7465 Lol. I was being a smartass

[@doggastiandoggatore6402]

The best thing to come out of this mess is independent writers and animators realizing the "giants of the industry" have nothing left to give, they literally have to go to through the IP trash bin and have some influencer come up with a storyboard to stay afloat, but they're only sinking harderd. If you're currently working on something of your own, I encourage you to promote it independently, anything remotely entertaining will put those corp "writers" to shame

[@vibevizier6512]

I have unironically made a minecraft modpack that has a better recieved story than this shit.

[@january3rd293]

100% this, kinda similar story for the current video game industry too.

[@andresemidey9679]

FX feels like the only place to still get quality TV. Rez dogs, Archer, Snowfall etc. Get your hulu memberships, and drop your netflix memberships everyone, you'll all be Beyer for it

[@joshreid1006]

@@andresemidey9679 Come on let’s be real, nobody really watches any of those shows.

[@wolfetteplays8894]

@@joshreid1006 says the prole

[@jesuthaalien]

5:30 “I’m glad they put Scooby behind the barn and put him down”😂😂

[@zdzichukalafior8287]

Damn, you know it's bad when Charlie instead of laughing at the terribleness is genuinely angry.

[@dudeguy8398]

@Logan Stairs bro is so desperate he has 179 comments saying he’s better at making content 💀

[@JustMaxim37]

@@dudeguy8398 Bro Is a bot

[@asiangaming8409]

@@dudeguy8398 yea that’s why I report for shitty content

[@TomoClipz]

@Logan Stairs npc moment

[@deliberatelyaverage]

@Logan Stairs Me to bro, those flightless arctic dwelling birds have no chance against a homosapien such as myself. Critikal would fuckin annihilate those penguins in a content war.

[@gremlininblue2601]

From "I don't like cats" to a whole ass cat tree in his recording room. What a time to be alive

[@state948]

The waffle house has found its new host

[@Turnip397]

Wait he doesn’t like cats?

[@Faesharlyn]

Io deserves only the finest tree upon which to sharpen her murder mittens.

[@vanillae91819]

@@Turnip397 no he has a cat now

[@imbored3770]

Reminds me of that dad thing, give them a few weeks with a pet and they're more closer to it than you are

[@DrDinks-po8jr]

"I started sweating from how much I wasn't laughing." Thank you. This made me laugh.

[@jekblom123]

Mindy wanted to create her own show but wanted to attract an audience, so she threw some Scooby Doo characters in.

[@FreddyKruegerTheDreamDemon]

And left out Scoob

[@mr.absolute8556]

i thought he was exaggerating about the jokes being all the same. But literally the first joke is her about to tell you her story and interrupting herself saying "i know youre probably confused because detective stories are usually about tall, handsome guys who get handed even more power" like wtf

[@Rmoose369]

Not surprising at all. A bunch of insufferable morons wrote this and apparently everything else coming out these days

[@TheStonedHermit]

Omg is that an actual quote from the show?

[@mr.absolute8556]

@@TheStonedHermit not exactly but it is the first joke

[@avaa5656]

Pretty much

[@matthewmorrison3745]

What is that in reference to?

[@jkhmr8283]

What's ironic is that Mindy is basically Fred's character. Rich, privileged and talentless.

[@Just_Some_Yonko_With_A_Beard]

Self-projection 😂

[@HeroesHoshi]

Wow bro how could you compare Fred to Mindy?! Unlike Mindy, Fred is very innocent.

[@subanichiban4643]

i dont watch scoobydoo but isnt fred good with traps or something?

[@agilezero5457]

That's quite a selective comparison. I'd agree on being rich and privileged but Fred is more than that. He is kind to others and has a fascinating hobby (making traps) . Mindy on the other hand... EDIT: Apologies for my mistake. He's referring to this show's Fred and not the canon Fred Jones. WTF did they do to my boi, Fred!?

[@somebrokefella5522]

@@agilezero5457 he's talking about this show's version of Fred, not the Chad O.G. one

[@Tribleman247]

The best way I've heard it described is Mindy Kalling pitched a show that was about her friends growing up, got told no, came back a week later with the same pitch but added "but with scooby-doo" and the exec's lost their mind and said yes, this is why that company is sinking like a rock

[@MarvinPowell1]

This was pitched four years ago and all the woke idiots previously at Warner Bros/HBO, like Ann Sarnoff and Walter Hamada, have already been fired. Zazlov is the new guy in charge and has been steering away from the wokeness as much as possible, but this show made since 2018-2019, had to be released for financial reasons since it was already made. But more so, it was released as justification to the shareholders to fire the remaining woke people at Warner Bros/HBO. This show literally is only being released to purge the remaining Wokèmon from HBO; they are all aware how bad it is.

[@crushedscouter9522]

@@MarvinPowell1 I hope this is true

[@Tribleman247]

@@MarvinPowell1 its so weird to me they would can Batwoman, arguably one of the most anticipated Bat-family projects as it would bring back Keaton as Batman again before The Flash and green light this, but that makes a lot of sense that is why this show got released

[@thatoneguy3332]

@@MarvinPowell1 are these "wokemon" in the room with us right now?

[@edcaous]

@@thatoneguy3332 Not in the room with us, unfortunately. That would be preferable, but instead they're living a comfortable life sitting the high seats of most corporations and pushing for the production of shows like Velma.

[@derekrequiem4359]

Scrappy Doo could be reintroduced to the main series and fans would welcome him with open arms after seeing what this series did to the gang.

[@Inkgamingfun]

This show is scrappy Doo

[@yetiornot5726]

The joke that weirdly got more under my skin than the rest is when not-Shaggy looked dead into the camera and said something like, "I hate drugs" with a smirk on his face.

[@SerenityOceania]

Subtle as a brick to the face

[@helplessnarwhal3722]

That actually made my soul cringe

[@mistercoolio45]

No fucking way. Thank God I haven't watched it yet

[@Mystical_Zeus]

ITS FUCKING SHAGGY!

[@SPOOFY_D]

Yeah they took away his drugs, but that seems like a characters arc where he'll discover weed lol. Make him black, whatever, who gives a shit. Don't take away his drugs though.

[@L337N1NJ4L1NK]

Velma is basically a stand in for the writers and how they wish their high school life went.

[@reservoirfrogs2177]

This guy casually explaining half of America

[@MsAsdflol]

That's deep

[@tehbeernerd]

Yyyyyep, that’s modern screenwriting for you.

[@liviekumori]

Or it's how a 50 year old thinks modern teenagers act.

[@mar30999]

Im pretty sure that the creator/writter of the show is the same as the voice actress of velma, so much that they changed the race and background of velma to match theirs. Kinda of a Marysue kinda thing.

[@Keen_Edge]

Sad part is after all this backlash towards this the last animated show on HBO means they'll never allow another. No matter how good the pitch is, they'll always reference the failure of Velma.

[@markofthewolvessucks8930]

It's HBO s fault the cancelled other shows. They were digging their own grave.

[@PrionicProteins]

And that may have been the real agenda, actually.

[@gusmansyah3002]

They should have funded their money to Zach and Cusack instead

[@KazeHorse]

Good. They can’t be trusted to bring out anything except woke trash, so best they give up anyway.

[@rrtttfthxg2143]

The waffle house has found its new host

[@AkaAkiraKasai]

Velma was my favorite character from the original scooby doo cartoon and seeing what they turned her into makes me feel genuinely dead inside.

[@justmike9556]

I don't think I've ever witnessed Charlie look or sound so disappointed. I was genuinely surprised at how melancholy and disappointed he was.

[@peterk.2108]

He sounds about the same

[@nicouribe6553]

@@yungzyonTV another voicelone bot

[@octoberwildsmoke9065]

@@yungzyonTV bruh that's not how you get people to look at your channel, vulture.

[@dooplon5083]

@@peterk.2108 that's the joke

[@LetsPlayArcanium]

What? He sounds like this in almost every video

[@notnotandrew]

We live in a world where one can actually say “even the critics hated the show” (2:13)

[@beauwalker9820]

Jay Sherman : "It stinks!"

[@TotemoGaijin]

@@beauwalker9820 Damn, beaten to the punch.

[@e1622zelda]

It’s from the show the critic , he was a guess star on the simpsons in the 90s. 90s cartoon. Greg Daniels made it.

[@cagneybillingsley2165]

mindy khalin and by extension, this show, is the product of affirmative action. we need more representation....based entirely on merit

[@cyberus1403]

we also live in a world where the actual targeted demographic hates the show

[@NewbieIsPro]

I've always seen Fred as a wholesome man who loves solving mysteries. I hate how they bastardized him so bad. it almost makes me wanna cry.

[@lorrainebrunner2490]

Yeahh.. me too.. 🤕☹😢

[@Teddy-se8qb]

well.... its cause they cant black face fred so they just make his character a cuck.

[@erk8520]

Yup, he was a positive (sometimes dumb) leader that showed courage and held the team together. I doubt these writers ever watched Scooby Doo, like at all!

[@XemPvP]

He's a white male so of course they have to make him look bad in order to fit the woke narrative.

[@phoenixxxashez]

They got to have that white man there so they could dunk on him every 5 seconds. It's just plain racist and misandrist.

[@10wuebc]

the #1 thing to remember when rebooting is to stick to the canon. When you reboot a show your main audience is the people who grew up and watched the original show and their kids, thats how you get a renewed interest in an IP is to show the younger generation something that you loved to watch as a kid in hopes they like it too.

[@Ozone946]

Fred and Velma were always my favorite characters from the gang. Sad to see them butchered in broad daylight like this.

[@jemcat5125]

Ikr, we just have to forget this horrible show exists and watch the classics.

[@speeklymaeve]

velma was in the top 3? *really*? her personality is literally just "jinkies my glasses" and "ghosts arent real"

[@kingdomoftransylvania5744]

@dream7848 You have no videos..

[@mimilopmemes7915]

@@speeklymaeve i disagree

[@agayactornamedmichaeldougl6289]

@@jemcat5125 this has been happening ever since these dang commies in Hollywood decided it's to turn the propaganda up to a spinal tap 11. Star wars, comic books, lord of the rings, scoby Doo etc. It's at the point even someone like charlie who I believe is more left leaning notices it and doesn't like it.

[@Faux_Activity]

Charlie is so brave to put his sanity on the line

[@ruanmorais5288]

Yo wtf

[@lunex7857]

I'm better than penguinz0, my content is better

[@lunex7857]

I'm better than penguinz0, my content is better

[@edgarallanpwned6666]

Wow these replies...

[@lunex7857]

I'm better than penguinz0, my content is better

[@lee-cl8td]

All this show did was tell us that Mindy was a loser in highschool and is still a loser today

[@sleepyym713]

Velma being such an unlikeable character makes sense once you find out who voiced her.

[@paulyguitary7651]

It really is crazy how Mindy can make you hate almost every character she plays.

[@SirFailsalot91]

@@paulyguitary7651 considering that Mindy has turned Velma into a self-insert, it makes me wonder if the rest of the characters she plays are exactly the same and it's actually Mindy that everyone hates from how insufferable she is.

[@electricpants8475]

But PLEASE don't hate on Mindy, she didn't write the voicelines

[@yourealittlebitfat4344]

@@electricpants8475 yeye and ww2 nazis and gulag operators were just doing their jobs.

[@chee.rah.monurB]

@@paulyguitary7651 Never heard of Mindy before,or any other character she voiced...But she sounds like someone who deserves an anti-vaxxer for a parent.

[@azuregolem1047]

The fact that they made an "entirely new" character named Norville banking on people not knowing that Shaggy's real full name is Norville Rogers is wild.

[@griffithdidnothingwrong7117]

@dream commit unalive pls

[@prod.superior5434]

It’s not a new character. Norville “Shaggy” Rogers is his real name. Shaggy is a nick name that people are probably gonna start calling him later in the series

[@distantsea]

The biggest problem I have with this is that it's funny that his name is norville rogers, but the crux of the joke is that they don't talk about it. Calling the character Norville makes it suck

[@Nabinut]

That was the central question when the first trailer dropped, like who's this "Norville".

[@db5094]

@@prod.superior5434 thats why "entirely new" was in quotes. sarcasm

[@superzilla784]

This reminds me of a comic from the Aliens franchise. a man was taken by the Xenomorph to a hive to be impregnated. out of fear, knowing these could be his last moments, he closed his eyes, covered his ears, and went so deep into his own head, imagining a fantasy to escape to, that he completely shut himself off from the real world. he put it all in reverse. the real world is the dream, and his fantasy is reality. the Xenos did horrible things to him, but he was so deep into his own fantasy that he barely reacted. he was much happier inside his head and ignoring all that happened around him. That's how I'm seeing the creators of Velma. they cannot accept their show is a disaster, so they are creating a fantasy world for themselves to live in to escape reality and all the bad things happening around them.

[@aurea.]

Wow that comic's dark.

[@connorross4336]

Do you know the name of the comic?

[@viniciusgoulart5077]

Come on, bro. Give us the source

[@DireShire]

do you have the comic name or issue? i gotta read that, i love aliens

[@alyssinclair8598]

Bro just went into a comments section to blue balls as many random commenters as possible. I gotta respect it

[@protectorofillinois3]

After the 1st 8 minutes of Velma, I turned off my tv.

[@KurtisHere_91]

This show makes Big Mouth look like a cinematic masterpiece

[@glumsulk]

That doesnt work very well bc Big Mouth is actually a decent enough show. You need to pick a better but still pretty shitty show for that joke to work.

[@KurtisHere_91]

@@glumsulk paradise PD

[@glumsulk]

@@KurtisHere_91 thass more like it 👌

[@blazers4life994]

Big Mouth is amazing!

[@eowyn-faramir-reads]

@@glumsulk big mouth -was- good. Now its awful, just like the new season of Paradise PD- unwatchable TRASH.

[@doyerlife9127]

The biggest Jedi mind trick made by Velma was them making the trailers so obnoxiously bad, garnering attention from community to community, and then dropping a real stinker. They are probably celebrating after finding out that they got 2 videos from Charlie out of this

[@Adrian-zs3ol]

The worst part is that these videos run the chance of getting people to check out the show to see if it's as bad as they say or to actively hate-watch it. Not that I don't like Charlie's videos, but I would prefer it if he just let the show die in obscurity.

[@NoName......]

Yeah to show did what it was made for, to stir controversy

[@AbsalomIndustries]

More people will probably watch this video than their entire show

[@phoebejl]

He is a white male so of course they're happy and celebrating.

[@ladycalderone99]

@@Adrian-zs3ol to be fair, even without him making videos Velma is going viral for how terrible it is and just how much everyone hates it. At least he's trying to discourage us going and watching it by telling us himself it's not worth doing lol and there are lots of people who will take Charlie's word for it

[@nerdsearch4329]

Velma was incredibly intelligent and brilliant as a character and person in older renditions, Fred was very clever and deductive in investigating. Oh how far they have fallen, I agree with Charlie, Scooby-Doo not being here is good because we don’t want to have his name besmirched

[@DeflatingAtheism]

Don't you feel that for nerdy, awkward girls who maybe saw a bit of themselves in Velma, that’s something that’s been _taken_ from them? Yeah, we can laugh at Velma fumbling for her glasses, but that’s only because there’s something about _every one of us_ we can laugh at. Now, Indian-American girls have gained “representation” in an unlikeable character, but nerdy, awkward girls have _lost_ representation in a likeable character.

[@arushsharma42]

@@DeflatingAtheism indian-american girl damn thats a lost of empowerment

[@StragglerTx]

It's possible to know every definition in the dictionary and still be incredibly ignorant, Velma here imo is just using her vocabulary to amaze the sheep on her quest to gain hugs and kisses , those types can't function in a society without ,,typical gr00mers tricks .

[@jse_illustrations]

@@DeflatingAtheism hollywood feels the need to make the neerdy girl characters into toxic cunts to show their "strong side" even though it just goes to show why nobody likes them. i feel like velma was literally made for anti social twitter users tieing every joke to race gender and sexuality for no reason.

[@Aaaa-g6u8e]

It really feels like this show is using the IP characters only because it was once something original and a parody, but someone in the department saw similarities to Scoody-doo and got the rights to brand it as such. I don't know anything about the developers behind Velma, but it just feels like that's how it went every time I see clips and it's writting.

[@jamskay]

Canned on my birthday. What a perfect present I didn't even realize I needed. Good job, WB.

[@jedimasteroforder8222]

Man I'd rather watch a Scrappy Doo Christmas special for four hours straight than watch those two episode's of Velma

[@gamerule18]

A what

[@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario]

we need to fund this, fuck da haterz

[@itznoah-live6881]

@@gamerule18 Scrappy Doo, the newly no longer most hated thing in Scooby Doo

[@josephhalbig4521]

"Perhaps i treated you too harshly."

[@tahususu98]

indeed

[@mazda9624]

I actually burst out laughing when I checked IMDB only to see that she show currently holds a 1.8/10. I was expecting maybe like a 5.2 or something (which is still considered extremely poor reception), but I seriously wasn't ready for it to be *that* bad lmao

[@dikemavis666]

Just wait it's gonna get botted soon.

[@lexnight8345]

🤣🤣🤣 they can't even afford bots to pump up to 5.

[@classicnestetris3268]

the only other show i know that is reted worse is that christmas show made to make fun of christmas in the worst ways i forget its name

[@krisko612]

@@classicnestetris3268 Santa Inc.

[@kierracompton1049]

I wasn't expecting Google's ratings to be so low. Like the people who rate shows and movies on Google usually like a lot of shit and are more generous, but not with this one lmfao

[@Spectrum0122]

As a 30 year old man, I wish shows would stop over sexualizing characters that are literal minors

[@no_0riginality937]

“Most Anime” allow me to introduce myself

[@Nathanielcameron]

Agreed. The shit is weird and disgusting.

[@fart63]

The craziest part is that in anime which is rife with child-sexualization, it is seen as completely normal. Nobody ever talks about how unbelievably creepy it is and a lot of viewers even like that about them. Absolutely terrifying imo

[@Zakkious]

@@fart63 And if you complain about ir, weebs'll just say that "it's a fictional character, lol, so it's ok"

[@blackperson5283]

@@fart63 “it’s doesnt matter they’re just characters”

[@FlamesOfTheRuined]

I got more entertainment seeing that book behind him on the far right that says “Man Poop” than I did watching the first episode of Velma.

[@Thinkpanda404]

Charlie is literally that army meme guy protecting us from cringe while we sleep peacefully without having our childhood ruined

[@CCScorch1262]

I'm literally the only human here 💀

[@Knightfall-rb7md]

@@CCScorch1262 god you weren’t lying

[@CCScorch1262]

@@Knightfall-rb7md Finally another human

[@richie404]

@@CCScorch1262 Yeah

[@snipey8623]

@@CCScorch1262Humans exist in the replies????

[@AforAwesome3604]

HEAR ME OUT: They purposely made the show horrible so they could be like “See animation is so bad, this is why we cancelled all our animated shows!” Just so they could justify their actions :(

[@RusPitman]

That sounds so awful it’s gotta be true.

[@stonalisa3729]

What a waste of everyone’s time and money.

[@stonalisa3729]

I literally used their service to rewatch Ben 10. I cancelled my subscription.

[@billster7424]

This sage wisdom will be revealed as truth eventually

[@Tangarisu]

That almost sounds illegal, like insider trading to deliberately tank a company.

[@h_makestuffalt]

That last "see ya" genuinely sounded sad. The creators of this show truly disheartened our boy...

[@skizzies]

It's so sad that they did this to Velma and the group. I'm all for kind of modernizing certain types of art and creating something new and different, but they changed the characters and their personalities altogether. Changing the race of each character is one thing, but changing who they are - Velma who is supposed to be an intelligent, caring, and beautiful character is now an asshole. Straight up. And to do what they did to Shaggy, my main man, my beautiful stoner and best friend of a being made of pure love and scaredy-catness. There's none of the original character to any part of the crew. There's no charm, just horrible humor and lame attempts at really vulgar content, that does nothing but enrage people and make them cringe. That's not what Scooby Doo is, that's not the gang or what they do; they solve mysteries and put away bad guys while being silly and enjoying each others company in one way or the other. They respect and care for each other, they don't shit on everyone and make gross jokes about their dicks. All these asshole writers did was take the names of the characters and their clothes. Gross. So gross. Beyond disappointed in whatever this nasty show is. I hope it gets canceled and removed.

[@NTNG13]

To change the races to pander to an imaginary audience is changing who the characters are

[@BrainJuiceTX]

Velma in the original wasn’t exactly some sweet little girl, but she was nice in a nerdy awkward way.

[@cassandrajenkins9095]

My memory may be foggy but she seemed like the kind of nerd that’s cynically logical. You’d tell her you’ve just broken up with your boyfriend and it’s the worst day of your life. she’ll be like “well technically no. Thousands of children are starving to death on the other side of the planet so can’t be that bad for you”...she’ right but your like😑“Thx Velma..“

[@GokuBlackRose978]

@@cassandrajenkins9095she can be nice here and there, especially with shaggy ❤

[@realbiggestlegofanconnor7007]

Yeah at least in scooby doo the characters were ACTUALLY likeable

[@hypothalapotamus5293]

Original Velma lacks cruelty. HBO Velma goes on /r AITA, gives a story about how she tortured some poor dog, and then is surprised when everyone tells her that she's a bad person.

[@jonquilgemstone]

OG Velma just kinda did her own thing, minded her own business unless it was solving a mystery with her pals. Mystery Inc. Velma was a bad gf, but otherwise passable. HBO Velma...Somebody needs to find out where the real gang is locked up 💀

[@Zantetsudex]

The irony of this show trying to use the progressive mask is that Scooby Doo was already a very progressive one ahead of its time, by having four kids from completely distinct backgrounds (jock, rich, nerd and stoner) that would NEVER interact with each other in the real world be friends and solve mysteries together. Everyone loves each of them and their dynamic, even at their lowest points.

[@laleepop25]

Wasn't everyone in the mystery gang except for Fred rich?

[@jerrysmith2354]

woah woah woah, Shaggy isnt confirmed a stoner. Hes a slacker

[@redryan20000]

Representation these days is like a DLC pack for a game that only adds new skins.

[@RobertGriffith9]

Not really. Fred's family owns a newspaper and are at least upper middle class, Daphne's family are loaded, Velma's family own bookstores and are probably similarly wealthy to Fred's. The outlier is Shaggy, his immediate family is probably equal in wealth to Daphne's, but his extended family are close to billionaires and he inherited a plantation in the south which is doing well enough he doesn't need to work ever.

[@Imbalanxd]

This is like pointing to the end of segregation and hailing it as progressive. It means nothing.

[@TheBillNye]

The biggest mystery to solve is why they even made this show

[@josepablobonillajimenez6297]

Truly, to this day I have no idea what's the target audience or what's the point it's trying to make, it's not trying to be a Scooby-Doo reboot because the characters don't even act like they're supposed to, (also no scooby), but it's not a full parody either, it's like a mystery show about some random teens that happen to be cosplaying as Scooby-Doo characters, I just don't get it

[@magdajabonska537]

I'm pretty sure it was created to generate as much responses as possible, along the philosophy of "bad publicity is still publicity". AND it WORKS. It's easier to make a really bad show and generate outrage than to make something good, and maybe it's even more lucrative at least in the short term. Possibly even to polarize the public further.

[@_mmu1e]

if that was their intention, what's the point of removing the comments on the trailer?

[@Chillerll]

I think it was supposed to be for people that watched the show as kids and are grown up now. And everything derailed from there.

[@TardMania]

It's to farm a higher woke-score my guy

[@MetxsightseerRailfan]

Velma is officially cancelled.

[@kbbandtees8112]

I am a firm believer that (from a storytelling standpoint) your main character doesn’t have to be likable. Sometimes it even adds to the charm of the media. HOWEVER, your main character DOES need to 1) be interesting & complex and 2) have some aspect that the audience can empathize with and relate to. It doesn’t even have to be a redeeming trait, but could come in the form of backstory, relationships, fears, etc. SOMETHING that gives the audience a reason to care about them. If the character is just an asshole with nothing to compensate that, no one will become invested in their journey or the media itself.

[@pascal-janssen]

this indeed, very well explained