This Is Delusional

This is the greatest fashion week of All Time
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[@Lingboysc2]

the metaverse makes VRChat look like a futuristic masterpiece

[@Cattuccino_]

it looks like if vrchat was made in 2009 on for the Gamecube running in boiling water.

[@ThtSunbreaker]

Atleast VR Chat allows me to watch 40,000+ pirated movies and shows

[@BTTackett]

@@ThtSunbreaker fact

[@scorpionvenom27]

​@@ThtSunbreaker true facts

[@tjenadonn6158]

VRChat didn't need to have an entire press conference to announce that they finally figured out legs.

[@absoutezeo2126]

This shit is literally something you'd do with your friends in an MMO a decade ago as an afterthought when you're tired of grinding.

[@USSAnimeNCC-]

I have played phantasy star online and people show off their outfit in central city I seen someone make a Gundam, Optimus prime, a Vtuber, Neir and other do unique ones out of the cosmetics in game

[@markofthewolvessucks8930]

@@p-__ that's disgusting 🤮

[@PaulieMcCoy]

@@USSAnimeNCC- On the Dreamcast? When I was growing up my uncle bought the Dreamcast and Phantasy Star Online but in NA the modem / LAN attachment wasn't available. More details if you please.

[@malachitep4276]

Bruh half this metaverse nonsense has been done in mmos for years lol Suits thinking they're innovating anything pfft

[@muaowa]

Literally mabinogi

[@voicetest6019]

Best story about the Metaverse is the one where some channers tried to raid it, but then found they were the only people using it.

[@something7239]

Second Life was made in 2003. As someone who's played it, they have somehow managed to make something that looks worse than even the earliest days of Second Life. I'm genuinely speechless.

[@lordmatthewlukeobrien]

Truth. As my Secondlife avatar was the winner of best Male model for Best of Secondlife back in the mid 2000s, (Jonny Tobias) these videos are appalling compared to the stuff I could login and show you from my inventory from 15 years ago. And believe me, I knew many people who pretty much lived on SL (I even did so myself for an entire year as I was getting paid to play as a model, event co-ordinator, Director all of which were effectively marketing roles) and the people spent a lot of money in the ecosystem to look good and show off or for using in game imagery as a basis for digital art. But the Metaverse by comparison looks like the first generation Wii avatars.

[@something7239]

@@ByteByteMause Yeah obviously modern SL would look better if the old one does. Also fashion events suck and none of those people have any style.

[@lordmatthewlukeobrien]

@@ByteByteMause Yeah I think I played it around 2007-2008 and some of 2009. Logging into hundreds of private messages every day to where communicating on there required skype so I could get work done on there was pretty crazy, and the “e-fame” I had on there taught Me many lessons, one of which was that the designers on there were some of the hardest working people I have ever met given they had to deal with as many messages as I received of appreciation, item delivery failures, refunds, and all while most held down real jobs in their first lives. The greatest lesson I took beyond My days there was the value of the real world and nature given as much fun as I had sitting on a screen for 18 hours a day, getting back to reality, earning real money and meeting actual people was infinitely more satisfying.

[@lordmatthewlukeobrien]

@@something7239 Whilst this may be true, it kept Me employed and engaged in the game as people paid Me Lindens to take them shopping and give them a taste of My own style along with sharing jokes and laughter. It was a good time, yet looking back, such realities made Me the equivalent of the modern V tuber whereby My personality alone was sufficient to find Me famous on there. Beyond the fashion though, the RP sims were also some of the most creative places on there beyond the massive sprawling Best of SL creations that Frolic Mills and Co used to come up with. All this talk and remembering is making Me consider logging in again but I have no idea what sims I would visit other than Straylight as I knew the couple who owned & built that sim.

[@lordmatthewlukeobrien]

@@ByteByteMause I would believe it about those events being full, as I mentioned above, I remember the 4sim events I even had trouble getting to as they were run in the early am hours due to My timezone of Australia seeing Me become a vampire of sorts to mix and work with the Europeans and Americans in that scene. Again fun times and I’m glad to see it hasn’t died and if I was to log on to it, My fashion sense will be timelessly frozen with that pre-social media version of Me I crafted in that world.

[@user-BadUsername]

What makes this funnier is that Vrchat is much older than the zuckerverse, and I guarantee you their fashion show would actually have guests

[@LeHarmacist]

ikr, I can't believe it's been almost 6 years since it's release. I actually looked it up and it seems that it's been released way before it was on steam. The initial release date before it was put on steam was 2014. Bro how tf.

[@freezedriedicecream]

Well, you don't become the most popular platform by being the last

[@ViridianWoF]

more like suckerverse

[@jayblesvr1022]

Exactly! VRchat avatar creators are exponentially better at this.

[@SamuIise]

@@ViridianWoFthat sounds a lot hotter than it actually is 🌚

[@ReelRai]

I love the metaverse. Nothing gives me more joy than watching these corporations be so out of touch with reality.

[@gman7497]

It just amazes me that these people have near unlimited resources and they have no idea how to utilize them properly. Hire actually talented people with a plan and Metaverse could be frigging spectacular someday, but they have clueless money types running things and it shows. Idk why anyone would have hope in whatever AI applications they're working on either.

[@RpRm]

Seeing the Miqo'te avatar: Each day in Limsa is a better fashion show than this crap fest... and Limsa is a crap fest of itself...

[@NoireEiki]

@@RpRm Limsa is the Florida of Eorzea

[@crybaby0999]

The most incredible part of all of this is they keep trying to push it and hope their lies get them somewhere but Mark Fuckburger is so unlikable that no one cares besides the people he pays to do so

[@brunoslybruno]

@@gman7497 issue is that often those that have competency and a brain dont have money, and those that have money lack both, so the person that could lead things well and give it a future is just a base worker, while the one that leads doesnt knows or cares to doesnt helps that for a lot of rich people, its just another investment, it fails? so what, they have another 250 at the same time, and those 250 will never fail together

[@cakewhy4223]

The fact that a multi billion dollar company can't make a game well but a bunch if discord mods can make a game like vr chat is crazy to me.

[@fadillah6014]

That why some work need right person with talent to do it, otherwise is ended as trash or at least pretty generic

[@mountain.warfare]

that’s because they have no souls, they don’t have passion for their “creation”

[@keiichi8191]

Zuckerberg probably prioritized hiring strong black queer womyn of color, with actual programming skill being a secondary concern.

[@Lochlann-Nl]

because, what good is a soul for a corparation, if not to hinder it with its morality and creativity? why risk lossing pennies by making something original, when you can just reanimate the same idea for 5 bucks?

[@Remyatta]

@@keiichi8191uhh, no.

[@monkeygirl1894]

Seeing the quality of the graphics, I thought I walked into a time portal and ended up back in the early 00's.

[@shyguypro9876]

Mii's back in 2007 were more impressive than anything at the Metaverse fashion show in 2023.

[@captainofthelosercruiser7355]

atleast they didnt move in 3 frames per second and not blurry as hell 😭✋ love my miis

[@alexchristina6368]

Stardoll is godlike compared to this 😂

[@unboxing_legend7708]

its suprising to see how many games and mechanics and all kinds of things relating to games and devices have managed to hold up to this day and outcompete things from today. black ops 2 still looks far better than some modern triple A title games these days, smooth mechanics were sometimes better back then in games compared to now and some features in those games sometimes are still being reused to this day or being implimented in similar ways.

[@iskafnidrehak2582]

There's game name idol street better then this shit, literally game for fashion and dance

[@hand13932]

@@unboxing_legend7708 older tech had more restrictions. Devs worked around those restrictions in creative ways; now that those restrictions are a thing of a past, creators don't have to come up with creative solutions like they used to. particularly with graphics and animation.

[@icewolf9067]

I'd love to see creators in VR chat do their own fashion week. I bet their turnout would be more then 3x as big.

[@HiyuMarten]

Considering how many different hobbies and professions I see represented in VRChat, it might as well be 200 times as big of a turnout

[@maximilianoalcaraz7351]

Zanny's For Honor fashion reddit probably has more people than this piece of crap

[@gravyz2cute4u]

Yes! I also like the idea of people making clothes irl and then recreating them online - have a standard version then an upgraded version with all the cool digital bells and whistles which may not be possible irl.

[@AwesometownUSA]

3x the turnout? are you sure the servers could handle _twelve_ people??

[@icewolf9067]

@@AwesometownUSA Lmao

[@ConCosCam]

I've been making an extra 100 a week by walking into high-end fashion shops, taking photos of the products, then 3D modeling them and selling them for VRChat users. Thanks fashion week. Very meta.

[@RobinBlend]

vrchat is surprisingly accesible and maybe not lucrative but seriously expressive!

[@zipster6393]

A pet peeve of mine I have with corps, is that they see us using phones and computers to interact a lot more back then. Then they completely splooge into that and nothing else, then go bankrupt and destroy themselves. Like, we still live in real life. We can't go to E-McDonalds and eat an E-Burger. We can't outsource our life to the metaverse.

[@BryanPlaysAlot]

wow the metaverse already reached graphics from the year 2000, pretty impressive, give them another 20 years and it might look like todays mobile games.

[@gman7497]

It's embarrassing. If that's the best you can manage with all near unlimited money you should just quit, lol

[@user-in1gv1uh2v]

​@@gman7497Naw. I want to see Zuckerberg bankrupt himself.

[@Hotsdontfall]

I was going to say like 2000 or late 90s lol

[@InvictusMatrix]

Half Life 2 and Halo 2 both look infinitely better than this lol

[@michaelavrel6710]

bro you are insulting 2004 games b y comparing them to metaverse

[@TheMarslMcFly]

I love the fact that Charlie thinks "Haute Couture" is the brand, when it just means "High Fashion" in French

[@mcgee779]

Lmao I thought that’s what she said 💀 Charlie is awesome

[@shapeswitch_mood7221]

They throw words hoping to sound smart, don't they?

[@DoctorX17]

Just goes to show he doesn’t really follow the fashion scene XD

[@AdonanS]

That's because she's using it like a fucking noun.

[@PepeSnow]

i learnt something new so thank you haha

[@trixiebewitched]

This genuinely reminds me of a ds game i played where you had to make your own outfits and then model them and "compete" against npcs on stage. I for the life of me cannot remember the name of it. It was something design studio. The graphics of metaverse are literally DSI 2009.

[@broadcaster746]

Style savvy??

[@normanmai7865]

@@broadcaster746 Style Savvy: ✅Make your own outfits ✅Compete against NPCs in contests ❌Called "... Design Studio" ✅DSI 2009 Probably was Style Savvy but I am only 98% sure until OP confirms it

[@hallowenpig8003]

Style Savvy was the game where you ran a boutique that resold items from a mall or smth right

[@trixiebewitched]

@@hallowenpig8003 so i had both style savvy AND a game called "My Fashion Studio" where you actually made garments for clients. I just found the cases to my DS games while spring cleaning.

[@winwoodlabsinc3113]

It looks like something my year one students would make as their first VR project. They'd get a decent pass for it, but if they submitted it as their end of course project after 4 years, I'd feel like I'd let them down hard and they probably deserved a refund.

[@amanofnoreputation2164]

You could hold a better virtual fashion week in Tears of The Kingdom using Link's wardrobe with people uploading their favorite combinations and color palettes.

[@bruhsauce644]

you could hold a better virtual fashion week in roblox

[@glarnboudin4462]

I mean, I’m pretty sure that Link’s ass is gonna draw a pretty big crowd

[@webbrowser4603]

I'm sure even Garry's Mod with missing textures would be a better fashion show

[@arthurhastings.8983]

PENGUIZ0, PLEASE HELP @ANDREWMAN !!!

[@erihgioqe3798]

You could hold a better virtual fashion week in basically any game with avatar customization than whatever this is

[@flackenstien]

Meta always REALLY trying hard to forget VRChat exists never fails to amuse me.

[@HiyuMarten]

imo they probably tried to buy it (like with everything else) but were met with a brick wall. They did give it a shoutout at their last conference at least.

[@Redd_Nebula]

And second life

[@IHateFudge]

I don't think this was made by meta

[@curlyfry2047]

Just like to say I gave this comment it's 69th like.

[@jsphn2008]

It’s funny, because everyone knows Roblox has the potential to run like the Metaverse’s perception of themselves.

[@TheMuseLuci]

this remind me of back when I played Gaia online and there were avatar competitions. only it Was actually fun and creative but essentially nft's to show off the rare clothing items you owned

[@examichelle]

I actually enjoy the way Charlie pronounces "haute couture"

[@thecorruptedgamer7811]

A fashion show in the metaverse is one of the funniest things I've ever heard. The metaverse always seems to surprise me ever time they attempt something

[@ODB1ujay]

Whenever I see some thing that’s from the meta-verse I already know it’s going to be shit

[@laurenf.7922]

They won't have legs sadly.

[@DcJensen]

Thanks for letting me know what the video was about🎉

[@fangirlstampede3065]

Guess they can only model tops, since legs don’t exist yet.

[@Adrian-zv1nh]

Not shit corrupted

[@Kirathian1234]

I think Charlie is underestimating how smooth flip books actually are.

[@anironfarm6056]

It moves like a flip book being flipped by a toddler that hasn’t fully figured out muscle coordination yet

[@Vaultboythefightingmachine]

THE WHOLE OPERATION WAS RUN BY TONY LAZUTTO ...HUH WHAT WAS THAT? MUST BE MY IMAGINATION!

[@flawlessfps7937]

@@Vaultboythefightingmachine stop pls

[@flawlessfps7937]

@@Vaultboythefightingmachine fallout is good quit desecrating it

[@Vincisomething]

@@anironfarm6056 A flip book with pages stuck together

[@Dexter01992]

It was such a relief to see the metaverse fail into irrelevancy stright away. VR is an amazing tech especially for those like me that do racing and flight simulations, but then Zuckemberg came in and decided this was gonna be yet another tool for him to purge any good in anything he touches and bring in more ways for him to make money.

[@oneofthoseyoutubeusers]

outside of a few ads at my gym and my dad mentioning it a few months back the only time i ever heard about the metaverse was from charlie's channel

[@Ultra04channel]

"Looks like a fan made event in Second Life." Hey, hey, even Second Life doesn't look that bad.

[@ragingkitttyx]

Second Life looks fantastic. Their updated avatars are pretty nice looking.

[@yyeezyy630]

Half life 2 vr looks better

[@neffyg35]

When I played years ago and doing the fashion shows there they looked much better than this!

[@DoctorX17]

SL from 10 years ago looked better than that!

[@Tybek1]

It looks bad

[@YaburuRunyaru]

Charlie, if VR Chat ends up having their own fashion show *purely* to dunk on this weird metaverse, please PLEASE cover it

[@kyellebantog7720]

That would be hilarious

[@CMDRJakob]

I wouldn't call it call a fashion show exactly, but, from my understanding, V-Ket (I think it stands for Virtual Market) is something that happens a few times a year where some companies promote their shit. Most of the time it's just to get you interested in a product, but some vendors are like such as those making comics to sell their stuff. Regardless, some people on VRChat commission avatars and shit, with the difference being that there's actually a significant amount of people you can show your avatar off to, unlike the metaverse.

[@LightningMcCrocs]

@@CMDRJakob 🤓

[@billybob-ts2rt]

@@LightningMcCrocs 🤡

[@saramorin4792]

they already do

[@Galavis.]

Most fashion brands are detached from reality so I'm not even surprised they thought this was a good idea.

[@NCSGaming15]

I love how old investors think they’re smart by investing in garbage, literally just give every company ONE YOUNG PERSON to tell them “literally nobody uses this shit lmao”

[@arcrisz5]

I think it’s just insane that several billion dollar companies think that they invented mmos but without gameplay

[@Jiub_SN]

They don't, they don't consider it a video game.

[@pillowmint4622]

we've had that shit since Roblox started booming, wtf are they on? do they all literally live under rocks?

[@mastergator9641]

@ pillowmint4622 Roblox came out 20 years ago

[@pillowmint4622]

@@mastergator9641 thanks for making me feel old... but on a serious note, that goes to show that we've had everything they claim to have invented for 20 years already!

[@morganicsmoothie964]

@@pillowmint4622 literally delusional people just as the title said. it's probably corporate leaders pitching ideas, being surrounded with yes-men who suck up to them and tell them their ideas are good in hopes of getting promotions.

[@G4rg0yle_Art1st]

As an artist that uses virtual reality, I hate that facebook tried to monopolize the VR industry and then ran it to the ground. Virtual Reality is a really fun medium for a lot of different things like games, graphic novels, and all kinds of interesting experiences. It's a shame that Zucc dragged it through the mud so investors learned not to trust it. There's still a lot of hope for VR though since it still has a pretty loyal community.

[@lonotalonota5779]

Metaverse to VR is like NFTs (and crypto to an extent) to blockchain. Makes the tech look stupid despite being super cool and possibly useful in some cases.

[@TheCuteZombie]

In a way, it is not really a shame at all. Try to remember what corporations did to the internet once they saw it was an actual thing, the same people who once said it would never take off are the ones now to push censorship and dumping it down, filling it with ads. KZbin is being turned into the new cable tv. And a more modern example is what corps are doing to A.I. So in a way, investors not being able to put their greasy, shit stained fingers on such an useful tech, at least for some time, is actually a good thing. Enjoy it while it is not mainstream.

[@fourkz]

Unfortunately after all these years VR is still in its “tech demo” phase. The only big releases are mods, fan projects, and indie things, everything else is just a new flavor of tech demo.

[@vanthaitran3493]

@@fourkz VR + Drone is pretty cool. Best thing with VR so far imo

[@sidicle6537]

​@@fourkz I disagree. There's thousands of incredible vr games and experiences to be had. Half-life Alyx is one of the best games of all time.

[@charliechimento852]

Maybe the meta verse would be a great way to help octogenarians to be introduced to what computerized images look like. Then we slowly introduce something with more frames and polygons

[@SuperAdnan117]

6:18 I like that the dress throws a religious snark at the event itself

[@No-we4ux]

The fact that not even employees would attend this event to make it look better is hilarious 😂

[@digitdog]

I always thought fashion shows were just like art galleries but for models and clothes. I cannot EVER imagine someone legitimately buying and wearing a fashion show outfit.

[@jonz23m]

I think you mean haut couture.

[@Remedy462]

That's exactly what they are, just showing what people can create simply for the sake of it. I would shoot for high fashion that can actually be utilized but hey, guess that's why I'm just not an fashion show designer.

[@baldrickthesphereofamusement]

​@@Remedy462 if it could be utilized there would be less actually cool stuff, i guess.

[@ainulvr9808]

@@Remedy462 If those "designers" would actually make clothing instead of freaky costumes for a one-time showoff, there wouldn´t be such things as duct taping a small person upside-down to your front pretending to be a wear lmao. It´s the same as high-class art, where an apple is nailed to a wooden plate and it´s super-deep somehow, worth millions. The people acting as if it made sense are the same art snobs that think they found a deep understanding of the world and the human psyche, but they really are just pretentiously stroking each other´s egos desperately trying to justify their elevated position in a personal manner, not a purely materialistic one. In short, they want to feel special, like everyone else, but since they are rich they want to feel even more special.

[@SuperJulio2008]

@@ainulvr9808 hear me out. They bring this to video games like CoD and Fortnite. I’m definitely not just looking to find an enemy in a goofy outfit that will make them stand out so much they’re an easy kill or anything like that at all.

[@ladycenobia5147]

Thank you for bringing up games that do skins right. I've played a bunch of MMOs in my life and I've bought a ton of digital outfits for my chars. But like you said, there is a game to play while showing them off.

[@serhii_himself]

3:33 they cannot even collect dust...

[@djgizmoe]

As someone who has done (education) research in Second Life since '2008, I can honestly say that fashion shows looked better there in 2008 than whatever the heck this is.

[@yummi118]

Right. I was just thinking how even imvu looks better than this lol

[@AttacMage]

second life's got clothing that looks even better now, or at least as good as it can with SL

[@sheldonhiebert49]

@@yummi118 dude, I had my 18 year old acc get deleted. Spent a fortune on VU for them to just ignore my ticket and delete the second account I made to contact their support.

[@Vaultboythefightingmachine]

THE WHOLE OPERATION WAS RUN BY TONY LAZUTTO ...HUH WHAT WAS THAT? MUST BE MY IMAGINATION!

[@sheldonhiebert49]

@@Vaultboythefightingmachine RLM?

[@NightFoxZero]

As a ln intermediate level 3D artist it blows my mind to see that designers not being able to find a hire competent artists. Anybody who makes clothing *digitally knows about Marvelous designer and how easy its systems are and how simple it is to create realistic clothing using the same methodology that a seamstress would

[@quesadillawhore9226]

my guess is the whole thing is being funded and organised by finance bros who try to undercut the artists and designers at every turn. actual skilled workers don't want within a ten foot pole of this house fire

[@LakesideTrey]

It does have to run on the quest which uses an outdated phone processor to run. But still, you see games like beatsaber, superhot and bonelab run at high fidelity and sespect they can do more, especially when comparing $13.7 BILLION dollars (compared to VR chat's 15 million), something is really going wrong behind the scenes.

[@RM-il9br]

i work at one of these companies and trust me bro as a 3D artist we beg them for any basic support. also marvelous is awesome for the basic static model but it's still relatively complex to implement with bones and dynamics that run in an eng like this

[@teogonzalez7957]

This isn’t facebooks metaverse, it’s an even shittier one called decentraland. Judging by the name I’m sure you can tell the type of people running it.

[@nocache]

Feels like stock manipulating but to make it go down? These people are smart, I don’t buy it

[@d0llbie]

this makes IMVU (2005) look like the year 3333 compaired to the metaverse. IMVU has been having 4k HD fashion shows for literally decades and they out here making an embarassment of themselves XD

[@MrAnt-sf2sk]

When i think of good virtual fashion I think of the guy who has an entire warhammer 40k fleet as his avatar in VR chat

[@angryman2406]

The quote on the crappy avatar's clothes near 6:30 literally saying "At the end of the world, do you need more clothes?" in a dying virtual realm. Poetic as fuck.

[@HomekittyL2]

It's also a bit eerie to me. Can't pinpoint them but I swear, Meta has been praised as some kind of viable idea of somewhere to go should the planet be more inhabitable, which makes my conspiracy brain itch

[@thelocalcrusader9522]

@@HomekittyL2 actual matrix shit

[@hugoruix_yt995]

I work in a "big" company as a 3D artist, hear "metaverse" every day and it tilted me from day 1. It's like playing with a corpse every day of my life

[@Jza-GZa40k]

I feel sorry for creative minds who get told to do pathetic work for this stupid metaturd

[@nothanks9503]

@@jdniscool there’s only one

[@JunkBondTrader]

give it time.

[@lucrussell9363]

@@nothanks9503 there’s more then 1

[@Vaultboythefightingmachine]

THE WHOLE OPERATION WAS RUN BY TONY LAZUTTO ...HUH WHAT WAS THAT? MUST BE MY IMAGINATION!

[@Love-Sensibility]

As a fashion enthusiast, metaverse is an insult to fashion

[@Dang3rMouSe]

VR CHAT needs to have fun & clap back with an actual model fashion show with insane models. Some of the creators make crazy animated models

[@MzCatieShorts]

I love how this came out and Thrill started organizing a free community fashion show in VRChat with WAY better quality content and has WAY more hype behind it

[@scootza1]

Yesssss kick facebook back down while it's trying to pick itself back up 😂😂

[@fusionwing4208]

VRChat, for all its flaws and... interesting community, is pretty much what metaverse is trying to be, but VRChat is actually successful.

[@notsafef0rlife]

​@@fusionwing4208 yea id prefer not to surround myself with the worst of humanity in my free time

[@willn8664]

@mewtwoy dafuq? lol

[@ToyotaCorolla-vg8qv]

⁠@mewtwoy I'm sure China has so much to gain, spying on your weird ass's computer.

[@cakeman1715]

The funny thing is... there are amazing communities like this in VRChat. People create insanely detailed clothing and inspire each other's designs. VR social events exist, and I do think VR socializing will get more popular with time. The reason things like the "metaverse" don't work is because its just big corporations trying to sell a sandbox to the masses. People who care about VR technology and communities can access them for free and contribute in a meaningful way. And people who don't care won't be swayed by these big cooperate cash grabs. The value comes from the COMMUNITY, and that's a product no company can ever manufacture.

[@Sumirevins]

Yup, people will not fall for the cash grab

[@StrangerHappened]

Second Life is also crazy about fashion

[@lucyl697]

VRChat fuckin rocks tbh

[@tylerfriedel8150]

It's truly bizarre how it works. I've been part of some amazing productions for VR shortfilms (Tales of Soda Island is a great one I'd recommend if you bother wanting to check any of them out) and nobody knows about them. Like I don't want to sound like I'm tooting my own horn by discussing stuff I've been a part of, because the other productions I haven't are absolutely worth checking out, but Meta does nothing to promote them despite funding them. The Metaverse just had no direction. It never knew who it wanted to appease and tried to do too much too quickly by doing.. nothing? There was no foresight or any tangible ideas. The Quest Pro, the headset that was made to be used for 8 hours a day for business purposes, is something nobody I know actually enjoyed or were even contacted about to discuss what we would want to use it for. I know a lot of people love to laugh at the fuming graveyard that is the Metaverse, but it's truly sad seeing glimpses of some of the incredible innovations of what could have and what it became.

[@zerozay5347]

the amount of money poured into vrc avatars is insane the prices for a good avi is like 50$-30$

[@RLL_18]

i have to admit this video has the best beggining of a video ever

[@AtlasUrbex]

I do think digital fashion has a place but not for the fashion itself, but for the artists who make them as a form of promoting themselves, like modders do in the first place over games that allow it. Looking at VR Chat here, where i can imagine these 'shows' actually take place because of the passion for customizability. Skins for games are a good example but a bit too disconnected from full body cosmestics what metaverse wanted to push

[@ghlutton7971]

I can't believe that the Metaverse hasn't sank Facebook lower than it is right now. Rebranding to Meta was such an odd business move as well.

[@MomentsInTrading]

“Sank lower”…META stock has more than doubled in value over the last 6 months!

[@Toochilledtocare-_-]

@@MomentsInTradinghow’s that possible?

[@tehbeernerd]

Even when the Metaverse was costing Meta billions of dollars, the company as a whole still made billions (plural) in profit from other sources. They can literally afford a disaster on this scale.

[@coffehavenue180]

Facebook is still doing fine (for the most part) as it's still popular in some countries and I guess instagram is too, which is why their stocks are still rising even with this retarded ass push for the metaverse.

[@emmily6254]

​@@MomentsInTradingThat's just sad to know 😂

[@ginatails]

It's so funny to me that Second Life is a regular MMO but when you put what's basically a watered down version of it in VR it's suddenly the "metaverse"

[@Nekotaku_TV]

I'm pretty sure this thing wasn't even in VR...

[@Vaultboythefightingmachine]

THE WHOLE OPERATION WAS RUN BY TONY LAZUTTO ...HUH WHAT WAS THAT? MUST BE MY IMAGINATION!

[@EndoftheBeginning17]

@@Nekotaku_TV No I don't know where it was but the odels and textures were garbage. Just straight garbage. That's what Pixar had when their head invented 3D systems back in the 80's

[@Zenith_Star69]

Second life actually looks better now too. This looks like early sl

[@RDSyafriyar]

Second Life has existed for a long time prior to the Metaverse.

[@OLDmanBOB]

what makes the least since to me is, in the digital world you can create impossible dresses that can only be created in a digital space, but they choose normal designs that aren't special to the digital world.

[@lilrobodoge6749]

As a ftp player of games like Love Nikki, Shining Nikki, and life makeover, this idea being applied to a game like those might actually have potential to be popular. Many players pay alot for the sets they like, especially if it's well made or limited edition or whatever. I really can't comprehend the thought process behind this "fashion show"

[@DakotaofRaptors]

Love Nikki was soo good - I loved dressing her up

[@lilrobodoge6749]

@@DakotaofRaptors Sameee, played for around three years till shining nikki came out, then i moved to that lol.

[@squishybrick]

We need a convention for metaverse fans. Host it in a very small building, and call it "cope-con"

[@Redshirtgaming96]

I only use it because its a cheap vr headset

[@peteryeeterson5766]

@@Redshirtgaming96 that’s fair

[@toastergaming7783]

Ah yes, the saw-con

[@heatherfoster7823]

the same 4 people would show up in angel wings and lime green dresses

[@HowToChangeName]

They cant even organize server for VR and you wanted them to organize real one? Really?

[@SmolAliens]

Charlie, ‘haute couture’ is not a brand, it’s the term used to describe custom-made clothes by any fancy fashion company. And you did ok pronouncing it haha. The fact that anyone thinks animating a little dress in the metaverse is anything like what the craftspeople that make stuff like that IRL do is crazy. Of course digital art and animation are still arts but there’s a huge difference

[@GlassShark86]

Came here just for this haha

[@sweethysteria8737]

Yeah, it’s not like these things they’re making are made from scratch It’s like a little game customizable for no game And this shit runs really slow and poorly and isn’t polished at all This ain’t digital art

[@TheDimpledDarling2023]

@@sweethysteria8737xactly. You’d think, with how far graphics have come nowadays, this shit would’ve ran faster and looked smoother…it looks SOOO choppy and basic af

[@laurenrequedaz862]

Just asking, do you speak french ? He really chewed the words, doesn’t sound like the real words. no hate btw

[@solventwitch]

Came to find this comment. This doesn't even hold a candle to what designers do with the form and function of fabric in real life. Truthfully, I think the virtual designs look kind of ugly aesthetically, sans being completely devoid of artistry. Also thought the way Charlie pronounced "haute couture" was kinda funny 😅

[@ebel-mt2dm]

As someone whose been playing mmos since i was 7 these trailers and ads fir metaverse are some of the most detached from me shit ive ever attempted to register into my consciousness.

[@miguelalmaraz7634]

this reminds me of that one guy who said google glasses would be the future

[@lokiiago_x0x]

The degree of second hand embarrassment I feel watching that is through the roof

[@---oj1zj]

Do it bro, tap on her pic defs not a thot.

[@VitaInDC]

The Sims 2 and their Expansion Packs in around 2005 to 2009 had better fashion items and your sims looked great. My kids and I used play it. S2 was superior to the later S3 & S4. We designed our own sim clothes, makeup, skintones and hairstyles. We also downloaded tons of clothes from any of the hundreds of free Sims 2 sites. When Mark Zuckerberg introduced Metaverse, I wondered had been a Sims 1 & 2 addict and wanted to create his own version, but online with other players.

[@eldritchabomination9726]

Isn't there already an online Sims game? Or was that a different company entirely?

[@rainydaze1313]

@Eldritch Abomination The Sims Online 2002-2008

[@Vaultboythefightingmachine]

THE WHOLE OPERATION WAS RUN BY TONY LAZUTTO ...HUH WHAT WAS THAT? MUST BE MY IMAGINATION!

[@ArchieRatsworth]

There are private servers for multiplayer Sims games.

[@SpedRockt]

As someone who loved and played the sims 2 on release, it's so much better than whatever this shit is and that was almost 20 years ago, wtf I'm old.

[@Tkat701]

I’ve definitely seen flipbooks with cleaner movement 🤣

[@Clawthorne]

That fashion show looked like a trailer for some korean MMO from the mid-2000s that someone ripped from their website into a 360p FLV. The fact that it's from 2023 is honestly mindblowing. Like... it must take genuine hardworking effort to make it look this dated in a world with downloadable HD assets everywhere.

[@barsni4779]

Wow. They achieved level of 90's MMO. That's an achievement. Give them fifty years and they will reach 2020.

[@vyxxer]

My favorite bit about all the in game camera shots is that you can tell it's just an avatar moving around. Like they don't have a devmode where you can input a smoothcam command?

[@drcgad3052]

The worst part about metaverse, is that it I can’t even talk about persona 5 without this coming up.

[@elementsgaming2411]

1:05 please, this is 100% a “you merely adopted the dark, I was born in it” situation.

[@sirfettofficial5764]

I remember talking to Meta employees at a job fair and they just were repetitively hyping up the metaverse after it had already lost 2 billion dollars, talking about the "breathtaking avatar creation" it has.

[@TheGIJew.]

I mean they probably know it's BS but they still have to say it

[@OneAndromeda559]

No shit, you went to a job fair where their job was to hype it up

[@Rvger1]

They’re probably out of the job already

[@AngryAlfonse]

Lmao "breathtaking avatar creation," maybe it's breathtaking to someone who just woke up from a 50 year coma and has never seen a computer before, let alone a videogame

[@RezidueWithaZ]

Not to mention they had millions of people who bought a Quest 1 just for it and then after months said "btw the quest 1 will lose all support, buy our new headset dummies" and millions listened to them 💀 VR isnt for intelligent gamers

[@Carl-iq4zq]

The funniest part is that Charlie’s usual exaggerations are understatements in this case

[@nicole05996]

this is hilarious ESPECIALLY knowing how advanced ai ACTUALLY is and knowing that a fashion show in VRchat would be 1000 times more impressive than whatvever this was 🤣🤣🤣

[@xkrazykorbin4684]

It's crazy to me that we can be anything in a virtual world but all these execs think we still want to be humans with mostly regular clothes

[@ANPC-pi9vu]

At least Zuck finally figured out most of us want legs. The no touching aspect is also hysterical to me. Literally pod people.

[@magmapixel8627]

@@ANPC-pi9vu i think the no touching thing is bc people are legitimately concerned about VR sexual harassment which I just find hilarious

[@thearcanehunter2736]

I think, particularly because of another comment I saw, that IS what most people want.

[@Vaultboythefightingmachine]

THE WHOLE OPERATION WAS RUN BY TONY LAZUTTO ...HUH WHAT WAS THAT? MUST BE MY IMAGINATION!

[@shroomshroom5945]

​@MagmaPixel im a vr chatter. Vr sexual harrassment is totally a thing but its mostly verbal. Can't imagine how touch vr harrassment would work lmaooo

[@ilovenightcrawler]

7:56 The poor interviewer’s face 😂 like “I went into journalism because I thought I’d be telling important stories. But no, I have to listen to this woman talk about digital dresses”.

[@UnregisteredUsername]

"its about bringing some utility to the thing theyve created" what a nice way of saying 'theyre trying to figure out what the point of any of this is, and how to make someone enjoy it'

[@tylester4768]

It looks like an offbrand Gmod session

[@ceruleanwizard]

The Metaverse is the literal incarnation Jschlatt's famous quote "-Games, unlimited games, but no games." It's a game you can play endlessly...with nothing to do Edit: Bro wtf are these replies haha. How did my reference spark such discourse. I literally do not care. Why am I getting notifications for this XD

[@normanmai7865]

When is "unlimited bacon, but no games" coming out?

[@billbill6094]

That was Carson's thing before he got cancelled and Schlatt's career got a boost from it.

[@Kaeutie]

@@normanmai7865 lemme know if you get info on that

[@frullmusic]

@@billbill6094 why are you making up lies to try and conjure up a beef that doesn't even exist? even if it were true, do you really think carson would be mad that schlatt had unconsciously referenced some old bit?

[@billbill6094]

@@frullmusic who said anything about beef, it's factual that that was a Carson joke before it made it's way to Schlatt vids, and it's also factual that the Carson cancellation led to a major subscriber uptick for Schlatt. Nobody said anything about what Carson would feel either. How are you making stuff up and then claiming I'm making stuff up to start beef while you're trying to start an argument?

[@OfficiallySnek]

I swear that VRChat could do it a million time better

[@JuanHurrea]

Meta looks so ass lol

[@nickbensema3045]

I'm not so sure. Whenever I see a long dress in VRChat, there's no collision on it even if the physics are turned on. so their legs keep clipping through the dress. That's why so many avatars' outfits are skin-tight. There's probably a way to do it right; avatars have a lot of capabilities, but most don't bother.

[@PastelKaiju]

@@nickbensema3045 There are collision scripts to add to the model, to make them work with anything that has a physics script on it. A lot of people just don't know how to use them, know they even exist, or don't care. Same with rotation constraints/twist bones so your elbows and wrists don't implode when you twist them. Cloth physic shaders exist too, but they're very performance heavy as you can imagine.

[@PureAussieBoy1]

Well people wanna buy the whole avatar and people make good money selling them.

[@justinworley5075]

​​@@nickbensema3045 it is possible and a lot of avatars do do it properly. Many creators don't care, some do. Some are near perfectionists on it. But the vast majority of avatars are free to use so the creator likely will be closer to the former than the latter. It's doable as it is now but it will become easier overtime as the vrchat sdk becomes more advanced and continually updates to newer and newer versions of unity's engine. Should be noted they're running on unity 2019. And the game was built on an even older version. Though they're saying soon they'll be shifting the engine to unity 2021 and so on until they finally catch up to whatever the newest version is at that time. Hell recent updates to the sdk and game allowed all avatars to automatically get a primitive version of eye tracking without needing to update the avatar. Physics and collision/clipping will only get better as the game advances and gets newer versions of it's engine

[@kbo8029]

During the entire time I've watched billions poured into meta verse I still haven't seen anything to make me think anything else than "this is like an even less fun version of 2nd life..."

[@MaeNortado]

Holy shit. Nailed it. That’s totally Beast Wars. Which was awesome for its time and I actually still kind of love in a nostalgic way.

[@qlphqbet]

I'm studying fashion and this actually pains me knowing how intricate and interesting fashion can actually be and this just further ruins the name of fashion to people who already don't see it as a proper form of art

[@laynaTheLobster]

Honestly I would probably be more interested in fashion if it wasn't so infested with ugly European elitism, especially the damn French. I'll stick to my ghetto ass Drip or Drown conventions thank you very much 😤

[@LunarEleven]

I wonder if you also thought it was funny that Charlie thought "haute couture" was a brand name 💀

[@williamcrandall]

No offense but I mostly just see modern fashion as ether "yay, these clothes look good together" or "I AM NOW A POINTY BAG!!!". I known this probably isn't what you mean, but I just wanted to share. Good for you though.

[@miaknig3130]

​@@LunarElevenI thought I was wrong and came here looking for a comment referencing the haute couture brand. Ty!

[@noah1509]

omg it pained me when charlie thought haute couture was a brand lord T.T ppl will dismiss fashion as soon as its not "wearable" in every day life. art with fabric put on someone's body is such a cool concept idk how ppl cant see that. haute couture was never made for wearing

[@localdeer1171]

Had a pretty good trip today, walked half a metric mile as well. So much beautiful nature and not to forget the good weather. Learned a few things along the way as the trail is along an old paper factory. Saw some abandoned rails here and there with a few carts still on it. There are a few signs explaining the history and what conditions they had to word under and live in. Just got home and just remembered there's a digital world. Silly me, how could i loose out on so much.

[@Totalcryptid]

Bro that sounds so cool, wish I didn’t live in such an urban area lol.

[@cats1970]

I'm happy for you man that sounds like such a peaceful time

[@pyrotechnic3s]

username checks out

[@violetgreer2443]

Hey! You're making me miss my hometown 😢

[@epicgamernik76]

How would one find such areas?? Also, what the FUCK is a metric mile???

[@mostlyimpulsive3462]

Okay but now I want to see a fashion show on vrchat just to be petty 😂😂

[@oscarbar2671]

omg these outfits are as creative as me pushing the flush after vomiting into the toilet

[@mylastnameisnot]

You know what’s funny? This kind of thing has been done before successfully! And recently! Sky: children of the light recently had a collab with the singer aurora and there was a lot of cosmetics surrounding just straight up real outfits she’s worn in music videos and concerts and at red carpets and stuff. Like, there absolutely IS a market for this. I’m not even a massive fan of hers (I don’t dislike her by any means I just wasn’t all that familiar with her before the collab) but I still absolutely got all the cosmetics because I’m a collector for stuff in that game and the items looked adorable!!! My point is you can absolutely do the like “real world person/designer wants to put their clothing into a digital space” if you really wanted to, but obviously this ain’t it LMAO

[@itsackela3921]

I love Sky:))

[@abbyagust]

ur so right i actually spent 40 bucks on her cosmetics bc they were limited and i was feeling impulsive 😭

[@thelocalcrusader9522]

roblox has done stuff like this before as well

[@mylastnameisnot]

@@abbyagust AND NOW THEYRE (some of them at least)COMING BACK FOR THE WORLD RECORD ATTEMPT AFTER I SPENT ALL THAT MONEY FOR THE EXACT SAME REASON 💀😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@mylastnameisnot]

@@ByteByteMause @thelocalcrusader9522 exactly! it’s so funny that metaverse has such an easy template to follow with these kinds of things yet they still somehow fuck it up so badly LOL

[@Palexite]

I love how they explain that you can’t actually make anything new or creative with their fashion metaverse and rephrase it to sound like it’s a feature.

[@wolfrainexxx]

At $10 Billion, they could have rebooted Star Wars Galaxies, and World of Warcraft, made an entirely new streamlined fashionable armor sets / clothing, then literally spent all the excess money innovating to make the worlds more elaborate, detailed, and hosted monthly fashion shows inside those games, while hosting massive events for gamers to actually Cosplay their bizarre fashion ideas non-ironically.

[@honeyfungi]

The designers know its absolutely not worth their time and effort to come up with anything new in this dogshit dead "game"

[@heatherfoster7823]

Like DG using creator submitted costumes as their line to "turn the tables on fashion" - No lol you did that because you were too lazy and cheap to commission your own unique assets on such short notice

[@wolfrainexxx]

@@heatherfoster7823 Designer equivalent to holding a contest for new outfits for characters, then selling the winning outfit for a premium. Digital theft disguised as "crowd sourcing."

[@RumForBreakfast]

You goin pretty hard on the new season of Reboot here man.

[@FrostGlader]

4:05 Hey I wouldn’t be so fast to dismiss that statistic. After all, 1 IS 50% of 2.

[@omega5159]

Today is my 18th birthday and seeing another failed metaverse project is the best present I could’ve asked for! Thanks Charlie!

[@CinnimonCrew]

Happy birthday!!!

[@Ahhahhhsiisis]

Happy cake day 🍰

[@ali1ff3]

congrats dude

[@winrus2016]

Happy birthday!

[@upside_you_mop]

ITS MINE TOO NOT 18th tho

[@Spitfiregames]

I feel like VrChat is the closest actual thing you can get to right now to what I think Zuck wants the metaverse to be like... but instead of everyone having the same customizable avatars and outfits, you can upload your own or even buy from gumroad, or even get them custom made for a fraction of what some of those high end clothing items would cost irl.

[@fluidthought42]

Ah but see you that's only possible because the aspect of user expression is not directly monetized by he developers. If the developers were selling "Kermit with katanga and a blunt" avatar or avatars with "visible female presenting nipples" they'd be facing a whole hell of a lot of lawsuits and restrictions, but because it's users doing it instead the developers are free to do their thing without worry.

[@gualt6762]

@@fluidthought42 surprise surprise. the people outdo the corporation

[@Spitfiregames]

@FutaCatto Second life is EXTREMELY dated and as far as I know has no actual VR capabilities.

[@fluidthought42]

@Flare Most people create anime girls because they're trans and on the younger end of the demographical spectrum, at least compared to SL users.

[@fluidthought42]

@Flare VR isn't intensive because of just "more pixels", it's intensive because it's a generation of any given scene _twice_ from slightly different perspectives and also at way higher refresh rates than traditional displays require (since low refresh rates correspond to greater degree of simulated motion sickness). In fact modern VR headset displays are usually built on smartphone screen technology, which isn't all that intensive in of itself. And I don't think it's an engine limitation, Escape From Tarkov is built in Unity and can handle realistic humans just fine, even better than Second Life can in my opinion. Which shouldn't be too surprising, SL is built off of 20 year old tech that has been slowly been getting touch ups that don't necessarily reflect modern lighting and rendering standards (like subsurface scattering for skin). I was being pithy with my previous response, VRChat's initial player base came from different groups which included channers (users lf image boards like 4chan) which infamously have a fascination with anime and fans of another online community that had a preexisting shared model set that used the same file type. However the popularity of anime girl avatars persisted because of the large adoptation by the online trans community.

[@pineapple6576]

metaverse literally looks like a vrchat moviestarplanet hybrid

[@jacksoncarter4487]

I used to trickshot in modern warfare 2 in a private lobby back in the day with more people than in that metaverse fashion show

[@Orbitinbloom19018]

Charlie not knowing that “haute couture” isnt a fashion brand is so painfully funny lol

[@gmoss101]

I don't give a shit about fashion but even I know it's a style lol. I respect it though because the man literally only wears white tee shirts and shorts lmao

[@connor7296]

I don't have a clue what it is but fashion is irrelevant

[@ratrat9241]

@@connor7296 wdym

[@Svol09]

Dude wears white shirts...black if he feels extra...the fk do u expect from him? Charles looks and acts like a hobo who round a bag full of cash and spent it on Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon cards.

[@obscurit_y4536]

@@connor7296 Connor just because all you do is weld doesn’t mean people don’t care about things you don’t like.

[@Sebas-bs8uk]

Bro I was already cracking up but the 3rd model in the yellow dress killed me with that jump emote 😂 This is like the same quality as those 3d mmo games in the 2000s where you just have little characters run around in dumb outfits

[@AliensAreNoobs]

Congrats your comment got stolen by a sex bot

[@floatingdisembodiedhead8975]

Exactly, it looks like a game clip straight out of the '00s instead of this "high fashion" hullabaloo that they pretend it to be. Even the announcer sounds like she's straight out of '00s British documentary. Also what's up with the potato quality lol was that an aesthetic choice or was it from their shoe string budget.

[@alimzazaz]

they forgot, to have value is to have meaning, to have meaning is to have story

[@errcncl6877]

This looks like a lost episode of Xavier: Renegade Angel.

[@samelemming690]

7:06 Saying this is furry fashion is an insult to furries, lmao.

[@SG-fm9wd]

Even most of us wouldn't be on this game cus we basically do it on vrc

[@alexdoe8112]

Part of fashion week is to show off not just the designers talent but the talents of all those who worked to make the clothes. Models as well are apart of it as well as crew.

[@LickMyMusketBallsYankee]

Bruh what talent are models offering 💀

[@iamover9000yearsold]

Well, all those people need to be payed. If it doesn't exist in physical space then you don't need to pay those people. That's a big reason any of this ever happened

[@Dragona-]

@@iamover9000yearsold not quite. they paid the people who made the 3d models for the clothes

[@arthurhastings.8983]

Send help, KZbin is deleting my comments!!!

[@arthurhastings.8983]

PLEASE HELP @ANDREWMAN!!! PLEASE!!!

[@jacobbreitha4299]

i hold beast wars near and dear to my heart i can’t believe he mentioned it

[@astropunch7708]

MetaverseGo is basically VR Adtropolis

[@jkbeach2512]

I just love dosing off to Charlie's sarcastic tone. I don't know why, I just fall asleep so comfortably while Charlie roasts in the background 💤💤💤

[@The-Master-Chief]

Me too, I listen to the podcast while I sleep

[@Shovelshuffle]

You're not the only one 😂

[@caiolessa9186]

I do that for real his monotone voice is so good as background to sleep lol

[@orionalbeniz9945]

There seems to be a 50% chance that an answer to this comment was made by a bot

[@coolandgood1010]

It's the soothing deep monotone voice

[@Kvvz_]

1:12 it literally looks like a roblox game 💀

[@buglerplayz7497]

True but worse

[@stavros222]

Bro if I had a company and hear those words coming out from Charlie I would have closed it in 0 time

[@newtz.]

theres plenty of fashon on some parts of a metaverse... but all of that is inside of vrchat

[@Goomba1309]

1:24 Bro activated the Moon Jump code 💀