Penn 6500SSVLL stuck in live liner mode - diagnosis & remedy Fishing Reel Repair

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[@wilbertbenjamin9928]

I have that reel and take it apart and service it myself I have 28 reels have been working on my reels for over 20 years thanks for the video on this reel

[@TSGReelService]

You're welcome and thanks for watching! Good on ya. More vids to come. Spread the word about the channel.

[@wilbertbenjamin9928]

I have this reel like this video I work on my own reels have been for over 20 years and have 23 reels off my own you do good work 😊

[@TSGReelService]

Thanks! As long as you maintain them, they should last a long time. Spread the word about the channel.

[@mywalkingfriend]

Working on one now. Came in lever partially disconnected. Harshest grinding noise when you turn handle. Opened up, live liner drag assembly and oscillator gear was solid block of corrosion. Had difficulty putting the side back on flush but I think your video showed what I needed to to do.

[@TSGReelService]

Thanks for utilizing the resource. 🙂 That's par for the course on these reels If they don't get serviced regularly. ... Corrosion around the pole area, that is. The grinding noise is likely coming from something else. Try checking the gears (including the spring trigger on the main gear) and the pinion bearing. I'll get the Int'l 2-speed up on Saturday.

[@armandorjusino]

I just got one of this, personally the V is far better than the VI, thank you for the great tutorial video.

[@TSGReelService]

You're welcome. Thanks for watching!

[@andrewmorke]

What makes the V better than the VI?

[@petermorton2869]

Hi Sir it is good that you were able to to repair the upper live liner drag system but unfortunately you weren't able to repair the rear live liner drag system I have got the New Lastest Penn VI 6500 Live Liner Reel & I got it for a Christmas Present & it doesn't have the rear drag knob settings as the rear knob doesn't move at all but has the front drag knob settings & the 4 Lever Line Liner settings & it is fully sealed from salt water & has the TOP QUALITY SAFETY FEATURE WITH THIS PENN FISHING REEL & AS WELL AS THE NEW LATEST PENN VI 8500 LIVE LINER FISHING REEL THIS REEL TO HAS THE TOP QUALITY SAFETY FEATURE AS WELL & PENN HAVE DESIGNED & MADE THESE EXCELLENT QUALITY REELS & YOU CAN PUT EITHER ON OF THESE PENN REELS ON A SURF CASTING ROD WITH A 50 POUND SHOCK LEADER & A 5 OZ SINKER WITH 2 7/0 HOOKS WITH BIG BAIT 15 TO 20 POUND MAIN LINE & YOU CAN DO THE PENDULUM CAST & YOU FLICK OPEN THE BAIL ARM OPEN TO POSITION & YOU DO THE BIG PENDULUM CAST & IT DOESN'T IF THE HANDLE ON THESE SHOULD TURN WHILE YOU ARE IN MIDDLE OF THE CAST THE BAIL ARM WILL NOT SLAM OVER TO CLOSED POSITION & BREAK YOUR LINE & LOSE YOUR SHOCK LEADER 5 OZ SINKER WITH THE 2 7/0 HOOKS & BIG BAITS BECAUSE THE BAIL ARMS ON THESE 2 LIVE LINER REELS ARE DESIGNED & MADE NOT FOR THESE BAIL ARMS TO SLAM OVER TO CLOSED POSITION & AFTER THE BIG PENDULUM CAST YOU HAVE DONE YOU HAVE TO MANUALLY FLICK THE BAIL ARMS OVER TO CLOSED POSITION ON THESE 2 PENN VI LIVE LINER FISHING REELS & THAT'S WHY THESE PENN VI LIVE LINER REELS ARE THE SAFEST TOP QUALITY FISHING REELS ON TODAY'S MARKET in the past years before I got a very nice 20 foot fiberglass cabin boat with a Yamaha f150 hp four stroke outboard motor & I did a lot of Surf Casting with Kilwell 12 foot powerful strong Rod had a fairly big Okuma egg beater reel & I was able to cast about 80 to 85 meters & now & again I was able to cast the line ok but other times when I casted my line out I wasn't so lucky as the handle on the Okuma reel would turn around & SLAMMING the bail arm over half way into the cast & I would my 50 pound shock leader the 2 7/0 hooks with the big baits & not to mention the 5 oz sinker would go flying through the air at speed into deep water & that was only pulling through the Rod & not the pendulum cast & one particular time I went to another fishing spot & there were People further up away along the beach from me & I had been fishing for awhile no problem & then I decided to do the pendulum cast a very bad mistake on my part & I had done everything right before I got into the pendulum cast & flicked the bail arm over to open position & half way into the cast the Bloody F______N handle on the reel had turned on me & I didn't know that the bail arm SLAMMED over on me while I was into the cast & Snapped the line & the 5 oz SINKER EENT FLYING THROUGH THE AIR AT SPEED & GOING ALONG THE BEACH TOWARDS THE PEOPLE THAT WERE ON THE BEACH & THAT 5 OZ SINKER NEARLY HIT SOMEONE ON THE BEACH & THAT FRIGHTENED THE HELL OUT OF ME & I WENT UP TO THE PERSON THAT I NEARLY HAD HIT THAT PERSON WITH THE 5 OZ SINKER & I APOLOGIZE TO THAT PERSON & TOLD THAT PERSON WHAT HAD HAPPENED & I GOT BACK TO THE SPOT WHERE I WAS FISHING & PACKED UP ALL MY GEAR & WENT HOME NOT GOOD & NOW PENN HAVE DESIGNED & MADE EXCELLENT TOP QUALITY SAFETY FEATURE REELS I COULD PUT THESE PENN LIVE LINER FISHING REELS ON TO EXCELLENT QUALITY STRONG POWERFUL SURF CASTING ROD I WOULD NOT HAVE TO WORRY IF THE HANDLE ON THE PENN REEL SHOULD TURN WHILE IM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CAST THE BAIL ARM WILL NOT SLAM OVER TO CLOSED POSITION & WILL NOT BREAK THE LINE OFF NOT LIKE OTHER FISHING REELS ON TODAY'S MARKET & PENN I HAVE GOT TO HAND IT TO YOU PENN YOU HAVE DESIGNED & MADE THESE EXCELLENT TOP QUALITY SAFETY FEATURES ON THESE 2 LIVE LINER FISHING REELS GOOD ON YOU PENN Kind Regards Peter PS I won't have to worry anymore if I had to surf cast my line ever again on a Surf Casting Rod with this PENN VI 6500 LIVE LINER FISHING REEL & THE BAIL ARM WILL NEVER EVER COME OVER TO CLOSED POSITION AS IT STAYS IN OPEN POSITION THANKS TO PENN & IT TAKES PENN TO DESIGN & MAKE THESE 2 SAFETY FEATURES ON THESE 2 REELS

[@TSGReelService]

Thanks for checking out the video and your input. Sorry to hear you were having so much trouble prior to getting the Penn, but happy to hear you beach reel that works for you. Congrats on the boat.

[@stevencamara2778]

Thank you for the explanation of this reel I have ten of them 8500ll

[@TSGReelService]

You're welcome and thanks for watching! I prefer these over the VI's.... of course you have to take care of them, though. 🙂 Spread the word about the channel! More to come.

[@waitingforabyte49]

Great channel! Thanks. Have you completed the video of the complete breakdown? Looking at my sons reel that seems to have a seized rear drag and interested to see the best way to disassemble. Cheers

[@TSGReelService]

Thanks for watching! No, I didn't. Sorry. I have one in my personal to do box, but haven't gotten to it yet. I'll try to get to it within the next 2 to 4 weeks, if you can wait that long. I had an 8500SSVLL in with the same issue, but didn't have time to record it.

[@phiromtauch6059]

I have a problem with the live liner drag system. When I activate the live liner feature the bottom drag doesn't seem to be increasing or decreasing drag.

[@TSGReelService]

Thanks for watching! The bottom drag is probably fused together. You'll need to open it up and clean it out.

[@markmontgomery9890]

I have the same issue with this reel and a couple of other penn reels. ..... penn are rubbish! My shimmano works as it should , and has no salt water ingress . I won’t be buying penn again!!

[@TSGReelService]

@@markmontgomery9890 @Mark Montgomery Thanks for watching. It's more a function of lack care and service than them being rubbish. If we take care of our reels, then we can't be surprised or upset when they fail. The same issue happens to all the Shimano Baitrunners if you don't take care of them.

[@markmontgomery9890]

@@TSGReelService .... so you say I don’t take care or service my reels 😂😂😆🤣😁 I have over 18 reels but it’s just the penn bait runners that is failing - poor design / quality. Also take note that the penn bait runner is not adjustable without opening the drag cover and using a special tool. Other reels don’t have this design....the runner drag can be adjusted simply while at sea whilst fishing. 🤷🏾‍♀️🤔🤓

[@TSGReelService]

@@markmontgomery9890 no worries. We all have the right to our opinion. Thanks for watching and your input.

[@riskurangler]

hi, its about 3yrs late but i want to ask.. can i set the rear drag more loose? i think the lowest setting still a little tight for me

[@TSGReelService]

Thanks for checking out the video. No, sorry. Just make sure all the washers are free and not stuck to each other for the best possible range. Spread the word about the channel.

[@yakattack3956]

Hey man, I have a SSVI6500LL and theres no videos anywhere on this version. My Issue started with not being able to turn my handle and the live winder didnt work. I opened up my reel and noticed metal parts all over the place and then saw the O/S gear shaved off on 1 side and the support assembly broke where the rod turns it. I ordered the parts and replaced them and now my live winder works great but now I can’t get my LL to work. For whatever reason the reel was missing the friction washer/ eared washer and the nut that goes on the very end of the LL so Ordered those parts but when you close everything up and turn the handle the rod pushes up against the back of the Ll and gets stuck?? Also on the supposrt assembly part it came with a washer on it already but in the parts sheet it doesn’t say if thats apart of the assembly (83b) or if the washer in front of it is the washer that came with it (56a) anyways i tried to find a video of someone breaking this reel down but its either the ssv6500ll or just the regular ssvi6500 but none on my ssvi6500ll of course lol. If you can make a vid or reply that would help so much. Really dont want to wait months to send the damn thing off but might be only option

[@TSGReelService]

Thanks for watching! Sounds like you have a few problems going on.... best to send it in for service.

[@yakattack3956]

@@TSGReelService If I send it to you would you do a video on it so it would be in the library for future reference? Idk what your policy or anything is but if you are willing then I don’t mind shipping it to you. Where can I find your information

[@TSGReelService]

You can email me at [e-mail] and I'll let you know if I can help you.

[@texasadrenaline]

I have a question, so if i take the front plate off the drag should just spin because the pin on the plate that was taken off was stopping it from spinning?

[@TSGReelService]

Thanks for watching! I think you're referring to the side housing cover and the pawl/claw that interacts with the ratchet for the rear drag.... yes that's correct.

[@slothparade4184]

My reels liveliners won't tighten or loosen, any idea how to fix it?

[@TSGReelService]

Thanks for watching! Yes, it's frozen. You need an overhaul. Spread the word about the channel

[@shermanou1337]

Nice video and it is present to see how all these little components working inside this reel. I can tell its main shaft is supported by both front and the back on the case of the reel, will that hold the reel better under heavy load, let’s say fighting a bull shark. Base on your experience and all the reels that come across, these live runner, bait runner or whatever they call these reels are stronger than their regular versions? I am looking to buy one, wonder regular or bait runner version will be better.

[@TSGReelService]

Thanks for watching! I wouldn't consider that more support...a lot of Penn reels "support" the bottom of the shaft with a bushing. Relating to a bull shark, I wouldn't want to fight one with anything less than a 9500.

[@praveenprasad1318]

Spinfisher vi 8500 or standard 9500 is better to buy plz reply

[@TSGReelService]

Thanks for watching and your input. We all have our preferences. More vids to come.

[@fischercustombaits]

Great tutorial video! Good job. A week ago I bought a Penn VI Spinfisher LL 6500. What do you think of my new reel ? I think my fishing reel makes a good impression, but I am not sure. ~ Jan Fischer

[@TSGReelService]

Thanks Jan! It's a nice reel. I like the concept of the adjustable rear drag lever... just not sure how practical it is.... canty really see fishermen/women constantly adjusting the tension mid-drift that this would be a great selling point. I could be totally wrong on this. 🙂

[@fischercustombaits]

@@TSGReelService I understand that. Trolling. That is very practical indeed. I / we do not fish from the boat. We throw large dead bait fish from the bank and wait for a large European catfish. Up to 300 pounds. That's all. I like this reel because it is made of metal and is well sealed. - Jan

[@TSGReelService]

Wow! Fighting one of those must be a lot of fun. The sealing is good. I like the reel also.

[@fischercustombaits]

@@TSGReelService I haven't caught such a big catfish until now. I hope maybe this year. We will see. A friend of mine and I will try very hard :-). - By the way I like the name Spinfisher, fisher sounds good. - Jan Fischer

[@TSGReelService]

One day, the big one will bite when least expect it. Enjoy the fight!

[@bidotube]

Mine is reverse problem. Live line mode doesn’t work. The button doesn’t flip down and the rear drag doesn’t turn. Used it about 3-4 times. Junk

[@TSGReelService]

Thanks for watching. These reels don't usually fail after a few uses, if they were working fine out of the box. Sounds like more of a care (or lack thereof) and maintenance issue.... as is the case with any reel. I'll be posting a complete breakdown of one of these within the next couple of months, so keep an eye out... maybe it can help you get yours working again.

[@tomallen6073]

I own one of these, the way I look at it is it’s a disposable reel, for a couple hundred dollars if it lasts a year or two. Consider how little a couple hundred bucks buys nowadays, not much.

[@TSGReelService]

Thanks for checking out the video. The problem is, that's exactly how they want you to see it...... as disposable, so you buy a new one, rather than maintain or repair it. $200 invested once at a 8% return per annum is worth $4300 in $40 years.

[@heavygame1]

my reel doesn't go in live liner mode no matter how much I loosen that bottom drag

[@TSGReelService]

Thanks for checking out the video. Try flipping the lever. If that's not the issue, advise of your specific live liner reel and I'll try to help. Spread the word about the channel.

[@heavygame1]

@@TSGReelService no problem, the lever feels functional (it clicks and sounds like it engages) but it doesn't go into LL mode.