Penn Fierce II 8000 inside look and basic service overview

This will show you the inside mechanical structure of the Penn Fierce II 8000 fishing reel. It includes disassembly and reassembly and a description of the features and functions as well as how to perform basic maintenance on it. Also how to perform drag servicing. I have been repairing fishing reels for over 20 years. If you like this video and would like to learn more, please subscribe to my channel as I frequently update the reels I am working on to restore them.

[@PhillyJohnny]

Great videos Dennis - I always enjoy watching what you are working on, especially since I own many of those Penn Reels. Keep up the great work.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Thank you. Please stay tuned - Dennis

[@sabrinalunn2970]

Philly are you familiar with the rampage rod from Penn

[@porterrice7551]

Thank you for this video! I was able to bring my reel back from the dead, and learned a ton about general reel maintenance. Keep the videos coming! As a side note - Can you suggest a video for people just learning how to service their reels? I’m trying to learn as much as possible, so I don’t lock up a reel ever again.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

I don't have one on general maintenance, but if you stay tuned, you will pick up a lot of information on my channel as I post frequently and do all types of reels. I try to explain every thing so that the service can be done whether it is your first attempt or you have been doing it for years - Dennis

[@porterrice7551]

2nd Chance Tackle I will stay tuned! As a first-timer, I can vouch that working on your own reels is possible by using your videos. Thanks again!

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Best wishes - it is a great hobby and a good pastime during the pandemic and beyond - Dennis

[@moronsmorons8913]

Your reviews are actually also helpful for judging the quality of a reel. I ordered a Daiwa GS 9 because I liked the simplicity you've shown in another video.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Thank you - The GS9 is a classic reel that has stood the test of time. I try to let folks know more than the nuts and bolts. I have learned a lot from viewers as well - Stay tuned - Dennis

[@sabrinalunn2970]

@@2ndChanceTackle Dennis you're a great fishermen I want you to guide me in the direction of getting my new fishing rod. I want you to help choose my next rod. I want a strong reel and rod combo. I have a tsunami tuff tip boat spinning rod and I have a penn rampage with a shimano torium 30 reel on it and I don't know how to use it so I will take it off and put a battle 2 on it. And I want another rod and call it a day. 3 is good enough for me

[@themrman0]

Do you ever do fishing videos? I just found your channel and I live how detailed you are. Really helpful.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

I leave the fishing videos to the pros! I don't have a GoPro for filming and am not on the water enough. If you want to see saltwater how to videos, the series by John Skinner on KZbin is very good - Dennis

[@josephspina7827]

Hey Dennis I enjoy your informative videos you are a great source for repairing and maintaining fishing reels at their peak. I live in Queens Ny whern and where are the flea markets for fishing gear heals

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Mostly New Jersey. Some out in Farmingdale and Lyndenhurst - Thanks for asking - Dennis

[@evan9054]

Aloha Dennis, I recently just serviced my Penn fierce ll 8000 and now the handle is slightly loose with a wobble. When I push the handle in and turn it, it feels smooth but when I do not push the handle in, I can feel and hear the gears grinding. Any ideas on what it could be? Thank you and I learn a lot from your videos.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Sounds like you are missing the shims that go on the main gear shaft, handle side before the bering or that those shims were put on last, between the bearing and the case instead of between the gear and the bearing. I would check that first. Dennis

[@evan9054]

2nd Chance Tackle I checked the diagram of where the shim is supposed to go and it is in between the main gear and bearing. I ordered the shin and installed it but I still have the issue.

[@pedrogomez2007]

Great video bud , god bless you

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Thank you for the kind word Pedro. Please stay tuned for more - Dennis

[@CombatePractico]

Thanks

[@seasidevfx3109]

I just picked up this reel and rod combo for $40 - one guide and the tip are broken, hope to repair. Reel seems good, but the spool doesn't remove when the drag tensioner is removed. How hard should I bang on it ???? ( the spool should remove like in the video right? )

[@2ndChanceTackle]

I think you know the answer to how hard to bang it! Don't. Remove the clip spring on top in the recess and take the drag washers out one by one. The binding is probably due to these washers getting stuck on the shaft. The washers are felt, so they can be easily removed. The metals should fall out. After the washer are out, try to remove the spool. If it is still stuck, flood the inner cavity and axle shaft with a penetrating oil like WD40 and let it sit. That should help you avoid the hammer - Dennis

[@seasidevfx3109]

@@2ndChanceTackle Thank you for reply, copy that.

[@seasidevfx3109]

That did work - it didn't remove right away but was able to take it off. the shiny brass post is dull brown, slight corrosion in there. lots of sand and grit in drags, I'll get it like new. New Drag washers !!!

[@christophervela5447]

New subscriber

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Thanks for subbing. I appreciate you taking the time to watch. Please stay tuned for more to come - Dennis

[@THEBLACKANARCHIST]

Thanks Dennis

[@elhommy13]

Howdy! i encounter a problem with this reel. The spool is spooling like a snowcone! i have added the available washer and still doing the same thing and taking the washer out and same o same o? Is there a drag inside the reel that maybe striped? By the way nice video! I just subscribed!

[@2ndChanceTackle]

If the spool is top heavy with line and has less on the bottom than the top, it usually is not a spool problem. It could be that the reel is not completing the full up and down stroke. Usually that is because there is broken line wrapped around the spool shaft below the click ratchet. Did you take the reel apart for servicing? If so, check to make sure the crosswind block is installed correctly. If it is upside down, that will limit the trade of the shaft as well. I do not believe this has anything to do with the drag washers. Let me know how you do. Thanks for asking - Dennis

[@pmpspot]

I have this reel and I fished last night with it and it never dipped back over. I kept turning the reel and it would t close. Any suggestions?

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Jordan - the two most common causes are a bent bail wire or a broken bail spring. Sometimes a bail wire gets bent out of shape. The causes tension on the assembly and it does not close correctly. It the bail spring is broken, then the mechanism will not fire. To check both, do the following: remove the screw on the non-trip side of the rotor and then remove the wire from that side holder. Did it spring out or just stay in the area without the screw and without tension? If there is a noticeable gap, then you need to gently bend the bail back into shape, where it fits in place without tension. To check if the bail spring is working, leave the one side detached and set the bail for casting. Manually turn the rotor and see if the bail arm trips. If it does not, or if it trips slowly, then the spring is most likely damaged and would need to be replaced. Thanks for asking - Dennis

[@pmpspot]

2nd Chance Tackle I haven’t tried anything yet but the reel keeps turning with the bail open. One time it closed by itself. I’ve never had a problem with the reel and I’ve never greased it. Which part of the reel is the rotor?

[@2ndChanceTackle]

@@pmpspot The rotor sits under the spool. It is the circular piece where the bail wire attaches on each side. It is called a rotor because it rotates in a circle and winds the line around the spool. It is it tripping periodically, my best guess is that the bail wire is bent - Dennis

[@MrXyz00123]

On my drag, it doesn’t have that smooth clicking noise, what could this issue be?

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Hmm - can you ask that another way? Do you mean the click sound when the drag is being pulled? If that is the case, check the click tongue and spring under the spool. If that isn't what you are asking, please say it a different way - Thank you - Dennis

[@chuckjconder]

Is it possible to ad material to the drag stack to increase my drag?

[@2ndChanceTackle]

No - there is no room to add more. I recommend switching over to the Carbontex drag washers if you need more drag. They are available through Mysticparts.com. Thanks for watching - Dennis

[@chuckjconder]

Thank you Dennis.

[@smokster0604]

Excellent....

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Thank you - Dennis

[@gizmo33rd]

I have 2 an love them

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Nice to hear. Just keep them serviced and they will last a long time. You may want to consider the Carbonex drag upgrades. The felt washers are the only weakness in the reel. Thanks - Dennis

[@gizmo33rd]

2nd Chance Tackle where can I get it

[@bogdank1919]

Good afternoon! I need same parts for this reel. Please tell me where can I order it? Cincerely, Bogdan.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

I replied to your other note. Follow this link www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Spinning.aspx#FierceFamily Dennis

[@sabrinalunn2970]

I know I'm off topic here but I really need help is circle hooks better than j hooks

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Hi Sabrina - Never off topic! That is a good question and "better" is a relative term. The J hooks have been around forever and have proven their effectiveness. One of the problems with them is that fish can such them in and the deep hook set leads to a high mortality on fish that you wish to, or have to release our to size limitations. The circle hook is broader and intended to reduce this problem. When the fish is hooked, it is more commonly lip hooked and the result is that the ones that are released tend to survive. I use the circle hooks on striped bass, which have a high release rate. I use the J hooks on Bluefish, where the restrictions on size and count are less stringent. Thanks for asking - Dennis

[@sabrinalunn2970]

@@2ndChanceTackle so Dennis I can use circle hooks if I'm throwing the fish back. And I can continue to use the j hooks as well. So can I use a circle hook from time to time cause lately I'm tired of the hook being stuck in his throat. The circle hooks do I have to set them like the j hook or I just let it do it's job and then pull the fish up

[@sabrinalunn2970]

@@2ndChanceTackle I want to try the circle hook and see how they treat me. Well Dennis I have two questions to ask you and I need your help. 1. What you think about matzuo circle hooks 2. And what you think about redbone fishing rod

[@2ndChanceTackle]

@@sabrinalunn2970 You hook the fish the same way as you would with the J hook

[@2ndChanceTackle]

@@sabrinalunn2970 Both the hooks and rod that you mention should be able to meet your needs. Thanks for asking - Dennis

[@bertrandstanio9119]

hey you didn't say what lube to put on the drag

[@2ndChanceTackle]

I use Cal's universal Drag grease for the drag washers. It is available through Amazon and other online sites for about $6-7 - Thanks for asking - Dennis

[@bertrandstanio9119]

Thanks

[@davidluna7596]

Eagle claw 3-way swivel

[@Belvedere3834spd]

Personally, I have found these Fierce n Battle reels to be junk. Have already had to replace main gears in two and pinion in one. After one use the gearing became noticeably rough, which is unacceptable to me for what was paid. I'm going to sell most of my "modern" reels and stick with my older US, French, and Japan reels which are much better, in my opinion.

[@billharrison6738]

Thanks.

[@cliffordbryant9658]

The Penn fierce 2 600 and the fierce 2 8000 both hold 25 pound mono

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Thanks for the clarification - Dennis

[@saltymojo3277]

Can this video also apply to the PENN 8000 first generation?

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Yes - the service process is the same and there is little difference in the reels between generations - Dennis

[@saltymojo3277]

@@2ndChanceTackle The reason why I am asking is because I already did the maintenance but after I put it back together, the spool tends to scrape against the rotor when I turn the handle. Do you know why that might be happening?

[@2ndChanceTackle]

The two probable causes is dirt on the inside of the spool underneath or a bent axle shaft. - Dennis

[@saltymojo3277]

@@2ndChanceTackle Gotta go back in and check it out. Thank you!

[@zachyamas]

Is the crosswind gear the same on all penn fierce models?

[@zachyamas]

For the 8000 series

[@2ndChanceTackle]

No. The first version is different from the others. models II,III and IV have the same one

[@zachyamas]

Thank you for your reply 🙏🏻 all of your videos are very helpful!

[@shremastergeneral7523]

I was wondering if I could replace the felt washers in the feirce with the HT-100 drag washers

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Yes - these can be upgraded to the Carbontex washers one for one - Dennis

[@B345LYKI115]

2nd Chance Tackle are the felt washers the 57-7000BTL Keyed Washer (3 req) in the blow out schematic?

[@2ndChanceTackle]

The Fierce felt drag washers are 56-7000SG. The Battle drag washers are 56-CFT8000. I believe you will need 5 washers. You can reuse the metal washers. Dennis

[@B345LYKI115]

The replacement HT100 Drag washers for the 8000 are the 56-5000BTL HT100 Source- www.mysticparts.com/56-7000SG-Washer-Drag-Washer-FELT-uses-5-P23475.aspx (Scroll down till you see Upgrade from Felt to HT100 Drag Washers)

[@chuckjconder]

My reel was just about locked up, thanks for posting. You saved me a hundred bucks.

[@nlgpro]

Does anyone know of a video of this same reel with the live liner lever? I have managed to clean and put everything back together except for the spring that helps with the lever. I am at a loss.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

I haven't seen one, but I will add to my request list for when the next one comes in the shop. - Dennis

[@ImthePancakes]

I recently replaced the pinion gear on an FRC II 6000. While it seems to work just fine, I did notice there's a little give in the rotor. Almost as though the anti-reverse mechanism wasn't as "tight" as it was before. Any idea what the issue might be and whether or not to fix it? Thanks so much for these videos, they've been a huge help in maintaining my tackle!

[@2ndChanceTackle]

There is no reason that I can think of, unless the pinion gear replacement was a smaller diameter than the original. The anti-reverse is not the cause. - Dennis

[@rogerwasserman7711]

Hey Dennis...I have the problematic "trapping issue" behind the main gear and the main gear won't come out and the shaft will not line up with the piece with the two screws. Can you help please?

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Can you take a picture of the inside of your reel where the problem is and send it to my email which is [e-mail]. I will try to help you get it untangled - Dennis

[@christophervela5447]

I have the 6000... Man you seriously do a fantastic job every time

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Thanks for the feedback. I try my best -- Dennis

[@ricks2907]

Thanks for all you do

[@2ndChanceTackle]

You are welcome Rick. Please stay tuned for more to come - Dennis

[@fixerofthings]

The Penn Fierce videos have been great. How about a video on one with the Live Liner?

[@2ndChanceTackle]

I will keep my eyes open for the next one to come into my shop. I do these videos on the reels that come into my shop for service or repair, so I really don't know which one is next! I will try my best to find one for review. Thanks for asking - Dennis

[@michellefishinfinatic8896]

I changed the bearings in my reel and it sounds like a windmill when I turn the handle. The reel fishes well ,just the noise. What could it be?

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Michelle - The symptom you are describing could be worn gears or misaligned gears. There are shims on each side of the main gear that help align the meshing of the main and pinion gears. Try moving the shims from one side to the other to see if the helps. Check the teeth on the main gear and pinion gear. to see if they are worn, bent or warped. If all of the bearings are good, then the gears are the most likely cause. If it were me, I would just keep fishing with it and not replace the gears. The cost of both is half the cost of a new reel. Thanks for asking - Dennis

[@michellefishinfinatic8896]

Thank you. The Noise is gone. I realigned the gears. You are the best.😊

[@2ndChanceTackle]

You are welcome. Glad that you were able to get it back fishing - Stay well - Dennis

[@andreszarate3477]

Let me know of a up grade handle for a penn 210

[@2ndChanceTackle]

The best upgrade for this reel is to get the Penn Jigmaster handle. It is a direct replacement that is longer and has a bigger knob. If you can't find a used one, you can order new through Pennparts.com - Thanks for asking - Dennis