Penn Slammer 3 vs Shimano Saragosa SW Who makes the best Surf Jetty Pier Boat spinning reel? Sealed

[@andys.1316]

Pretty much the only 1hr long video from KZbin that i would watch

[@dreyn7780]

Foolish.

[@davidmoreno3371]

I've had the Penn slammer 3 5500 for at least a year and I've used it in the surf it's been banged on rocks, fallen in sand. All I do is wash the reel to remove loose sand and continue to fish. I've never opened the reel for maintenance because it is still as smooth as when I first got it.

[@321thach]

Yeah those Made in China Penn are no joke

[@fadelover123]

@Joker Toker yeah true. I had a Chinese made oven one time and a American oven. The American one started having problems after 1 week. The Chinese one had no problems for 5 years.

[@bavianbezuidenhout8099]

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[@pascha9993]

China is no joke nowadays 😂😂.... for more information, ask your President

[@pissywilly]

@@pascha9993 shots fired 😳🤣

[@floridabmw3150]

Prob the absolute best side by side comparison of any product I’ve had the pleasure of watching. YOU my friend are good.

[@mikemelina7395]

I now have two very full seasons of fishing on my Slammers on Jetty, CCC, Surf and Boat: 4500, 5500 and 6500HS. They've been dunked, splashed, soaked, dropped in the sand and on the jetties and with minimal maintenance have had no problems. Perfect. I can't speak for the 'gosa, which I'm sure is a good reel as well, but as for the Slammers, they are butter-smooth tanks. Love the drags as well(I've avoided coffee grounds)

[@kelank12]

My husband bought it for me after our fishing trip. Great action! So smooth it's like reeling over silk! Absolutely LOVE it!

[@radventures887]

You my friend should be hired by the top reel companies. Very well detailed with components most normal anglers won't be digging to find out how they work. Hats off sir and keep doing what you do. God bless

[@TackleAdvisors]

Thanks brotha!

[@Scarekrow24]

Companies don't want to make a reel that's too good. Planned obsolescence.

[@jeffreysumaylo3075]

true story

[@nyoussef2623]

Great review, I will be adding a slammer 3 to my arsenals.

[@Al-oe8ib]

Can not wait to see a comparison between the Authority and the Stella

[@Biscuithead84]

Dude you’re the G.O.A.T of reels

[@kevinturpin7937]

Do you know if this is Alan Hawk ? Every place I go someone has mentioned that name this guy is brilliant

[@thebayoudiaries8389]

@@kevinturpin7937 He isn’t, but he’s very similar in knowledge on reels and their mechanics. I always go to TA’s videos before purchasing a new reel.

[@timothylisk7665]

I have 30 trips over last year from boat and beach on SL3 4500 almost 200 hours. Just a spray rinse after and oiled a couple times. Has been dunked has been sanded. Performs better than new. Definitely do not notice back slap. Also can pickup on Amazon or eBay at $180. or less if you are patient. One of the best value reels I have bought. Great review. It influenced my initial purchase decision

[@dixonallen2610]

I have four Slammers and a high speed Slammer III 8500. Absolutely great reels. Those drags wow! Thanks Penn!

[@TheJollymice]

Unbelievable power! Definitely getting the 10500

[@dixondjallen6620]

Penn has really stepped up their game over the last few years. I use the Slammer III 4500 for snook fishing where I would usually use a reel at least one size up(4500 etc.) It's the truly waterproof and that amazing drag that sold me; 3500, 4500, 6500 and a 8500. And I used to be a die hard Shimano reel fan too. Also the new Clash series are great Inshore reels. Star Seagis or custom made rods... And I work part time at Bass Pro Shop, Daytona Beach and have many other reels to choose from with my employee discount. BPS brand products, I get a 47% discount on BPS made products. So you know where my paycheck goes lmao!

[@chrisjones720]

Are the 3500 and 4500 technically the same size? Just the 4500 has more line capacity?

[@kresanreddy6809]

High quality video, really broke the ice on choosing or making choices between high end grinders. Thank you.

[@kevinturpin7937]

Thank you I love the way you break down the whole reel It’s definitely made my decision that much easier it doesn’t say who is doing the commentary or at least I didn’t see it what a great job of explaining and analyzing

[@itvisor1]

you are the best guy who I found doing the exact comparison "head to head" by far the best... If I will have tipple like I will do it for you... I do appreciate the work you do for us...

[@normanedwards8552]

much thanks for this comparison review I've always wondered which was the better reel.

[@stephenTcartwright]

I have watched so many of your videos man. You put so much effort into this channel and provide such comprehensive content. thanks buddy, keep it up.

[@dreyn7780]

But none of it is actually relevant. For example, ALL reel designers choose to make a sound emitting from the object. Not once do you reference the sound. The user IS concerned with sound. Feel is also extremely important. Designs can be futuristic. You're Supposed to grow into the product. Clearly you're uneducated and unwise. Nowonder you're antisocial.

[@Distantttt]

honestly man lots of people hate penn, i can kinda see why, but the slammer is a amazing reel. you gotta give credit when credits due. great vid.

[@TackleAdvisors]

Yeah....spot on.....I wanted to hate this reel because it's an easy target....but it's a damn fine reel.....quality control aside......its a reel priced right and built like a tank...and they swapped out the reel after the bearing failed so their support after the sale is great too!

[@dixondjallen6620]

I really like my slammer III's. I have 4500, 5500, 6500 and 8500. Drags are just bad ass. Never had any issues with line lay or internal grinding under pressure... And i clean them after every use so sand is never an issue. Goosa's are fine reels as well i just prefer penn...

[@MongoDAoC]

I have a L

[@huudinii123]

how much is the size difference between the 4500 and 5500? the 4500 to me looks like almost the same size as the 5500...just a little bit smaller overall.

[@PhillyJohnny]

Hey man - you put out some great videos. It's nice to just get honest information about all kinds of different products from someone without a bias. Will certainly look to your videos when spending big money on gear. So much to be learned from these videos.....just great.

[@nicholascapuano9877]

I fished a slammer III 5500 really hard for an entire season (extended dunking on almost every trip, and was cranked underwater on multiple occasions) and had zero issues. I would get home and open it up expecting to find water and would find nothing. Great reel, just with there was a bailess version.

[@lachlanoneil8938]

Been fishing my spinfisher v s for a year or 2 now and they are still going strong even tho they have been splashed or even fully underwater almost every trip.

[@edl3063]

Own both gosa 6000 sw and slammer 3 4500. Gosa hands down for me a much better surf reel. Effortless cranking in big tins and fish. Slammer is smooth under zero load. Cranking in big tin or fish requires much more effort and has a slight coffee grinder thing going on. Gosa upgrades...got rid of the factory egg handle knob and swapped out with sustain 10000 circular Eva knob, saving over an oz..and solves for the odd oem egg knob. Also, swapped out factory grease after first season with corrossion x grease and oil., Slammer pluses...looks better, higher lock down drag, and has great line lay.

[@saltwaterreeffishing9865]

ed l you are comparing orange to apples, get a slammer 5500 or 6500 the 3500 is to small if you are comparing it to the gosa 6000 sw.

[@patrickhershey3134]

Thanks for the great review. Best review on these reels that I've seen.

[@edbranch3239]

I have to tell you... I feel you have the most informative channel. I appreciate the way you explain the differences between the reels. Very easy to understand! You helped me make one of my better purchases, the TRNX 401. Fantastic reel for big snook In Florida. I just want to tell you, thank you.

[@TackleAdvisors]

Hey Ed. Thanks brotha! I hope it treats you well! I've received tons of feedback since putting out those big low pro vids. And haters aside... The overwhelming majority was positive. A couple water intrusion issues but that's pretty much it. Best of luck with it

[@saltylue33]

got to say your analysis is pretty damn thorough. bravo. makes me feel more confident about my 8k gossa. youve got a new subscriber. keep up the good work

[@TackleAdvisors]

Thanks Salty! Glad you got something out of it. Gosa is a tank..I can't wait to see what the next gen brings.

[@christiancml]

Watched the whole video! Great attention to detail. Looks like both are solid designs but the Saragosa is more waterproof. Also I do love the looks of the Saragosa plus have read elsewhere that their warranty is solid. There are guys out there that have messed their Saragosa reels and Shimano sends them a brand new reel. Conclusion, purchased a Saragosa for my first nice reel!

[@MrMolderone]

What size you get mate? What are you targeting?

[@christiancml]

@@MrMolderone I got a 6000 for surf fishing in the East coast of Florida, USA. We get Kingfish, Pompano, Redfish, Jack, etc.

[@sv2296]

I use to watch for info now I watch because I still can't believe some one is able to undo and remount the whole reel. Well done

[@marcuslarwa9098]

I’m glad u brought up TwinPower, I was really thinking about getting one. Could u possibly do a video on it please. Tyvm new subscriber.

[@TackleAdvisors]

I know it's a year later...but working on one with the tp sw 14k now

[@mdgeist472]

Also consider when you crank the reel, the main gear will push the pinion forward off of that little base. Plus the shaft should keep the pinion aligned along with the 2 main bearings.

[@fractalofgod6324]

At 48 I'm just getting into fishing and I'm some what over whelmed by the complexity of it all so I've been trying to study on KZbin and forums and I stumbled across this video... Man steep curve 😂 I've now subbed as your video was very impressive. Many thanks for sharing your wisdom.

[@TackleAdvisors]

Hey Jimmy... You're doing it right. The forums are a wealth of knowledge. I post on Stripersonline.Com as Scoobydoo (and other forums as well) glad you were able to get somethin out of it. You're welcome

[@fractalofgod6324]

@@TackleAdvisors cheers scoobs... Just joined the forum you linked, I'm 40jack. 👍🍺

[@0riginall337]

It can be as simple or complicated as you want. Pickup a cheap combo with good line and you’ll be fine for awhile

[@fractalofgod6324]

@@0riginall337 thanks Lee, I'm in a really tight budget at the moment but want the best chance of catching a fish man. Its just trying to see the wood for the trees.

[@Arie-Z]

I can't pick! I'll buy both!

[@billturner2370]

You make the best fishing reel videos! Keep them coming.

[@riccardocarbo2479]

Great discussion here, thanks. I got myself that 2500 LL. I really like the reel, overall but I can't get over the spool sitting on such a tiny "shelf" washer on the shaft--as you said, all that pressure has to pile up right there, narrowly. I minor problem I'll say Penn overlooked was the angle of the line roller to the spool of line, particularly when full. It pays off off the spool at an angle wider than the line roller is angled for, so it runs tight against the sharper edge of the roller just before it guides on to it. No likey! That could feasibly fray line or rumple it. My reel lays line biased on the lower part of the spool, even after removing the most shims possible and reeling in tightly. My 2500LL's drag locks DOWN. The only way to take adavantage of that degree of drag would be 60lb braid on a Tuna stick, which means getting spooled after 30 seconds of Blue Fin fury since you haven't the yardage to give it. Impractical as that all seems, it's nice knowing it's there!

[@MrGb4ever]

It would be really interesting to find out for any of the guys that had the drag knob melt on them during a fight how much drag pressure was applied to the reel at that time...I mentioned this on a few videos that compared reels in the same class both in cost and size...It`s impressive that you can spend $349 on the biggest Penn Slammer and it`s rated for 60 lbs of drag...When the 25000 Saragosa is $409 and is rated for 44 lbs of drag...So most people would most likely go for the Slammer because they`re getting more for their money but how much of that drag pressure is really effective within that 60 lbs?..And how long would it last before it breaking down?....If both reels were put through constant pressure of say 25 lbs of drag the Saragosa could still possibly be a better reel because it would last longer than the Slammer even though Slammer is rated for much higher drag pressure..I believe I brought this up with the Stella vs Dogfight comparison video.

[@iamajames]

Fin nor offshore 9500 also has 60 lbs drag but at a lower ratio, also much cheaper all can handle tarpon grouper sharks. Seems like a trend to use giant spinning reels to replace conventional gear

[@MrGb4ever]

Do you have one or know anyone that does?

[@MrGb4ever]

I completely agree and in reality a lot of guys and in most cases aren`t even going to use close to 40 lbs of drag on spinning reels. This video however has convinced me to buy the Penn Torque II for my 80 lb class but I can understand why guys would stick with the Slammers since they have the same drag system as the Torque with this exception of the drag knobs.

[@MrGb4ever]

Thanks for the feedback!...I think I`m going to wait for the Slammer to be on the market for awhile longer before I go buy one for myself.

[@MrGb4ever]

Coza, do you have a Saragosa and if so do you have to send it out for service?@Coza King

[@jeffsmith8958]

Interestingly I now own a Saragosa, Slammer III and a Daiwa Saltist. Different sizes slightly but similar.For what it’s worth I’ll be selling the Saltist and Saragosa and purchasing another Slammer III in the 3500 size or 4500 size. I’ve owned a lot of reels in my life and I’ve never been in love with the Penn spinning reels but the Slammer III is the best $250-$280 reel ever made to me. I personally think it’s a better boat reel by a long ways compared to the others. I’m not a surf fisherman so I can’t comment but the Slammer III for my style of fishing is amazing.

[@TheKingzfan]

As always a great review! A pleasant surprise on a Tuesday afternoon.

[@VexxJam]

You have the most thorough and detailed reel review vids on KZbin. Awesome work 👍👍

[@ajy440]

i just got a slammer 3 for 148 on amazon. was going to get the jdm theory off of j and h cause i saw that one video you posted and looks like such a good reel, maybe whenever i get back from my florida trip ill get another combo and add that to the lineup :)

[@leesolomon7959]

Incredible review!!!! Thank you for taking the time. I own both htese reels and fish them from boats and surf. Fantastic.

[@liamcoleman8244]

Have a saragossa 6000 and 8000, I really am losing faith in penn their reels last a while but they are never buttery like the shimanos, line lay is wackadoodle, and I always get wind knots. I wish shimano put a deeper arbor on the saragossa because it just does not have enough line to back up its beefiness. I’d go with shimano they are just better quality and you dont need to worry about getting a “bad batch” like the penns.

[@jakelencher817]

3:22 your camera shook so i thought my monitor was moving from you getting the drag plate out, thought there was a fourth wall break going on there.

[@scottbainetwisted_keel_adv5821]

I recently purchased a penn slammer 3 5500 and man i love it. I matched it with a tsunami elite airwave 11'-0" surf rod for now and it feels so balanced. My son and girlfriends son and I are going to fish hu tington beach state park jetties and surf second week in September and i hope to get another one but a 4500 on a 8'-0" popper stylre rod to thru some biv plugs for red fish and anything else that comes along. I think when i find the right 8 foot rod the 5500 will go on it and the 4500 will be on the tsunami. Thanks for the break down on the reals. I looked at diawa bg and i love shimano. But penn has always been good to me i still have all the penns ive ever bought.

[@riccardocarbo2479]

If I may clarify: At 50:40, you mention the rotor play as being related to the ratio. I'm quite sure that the play comes NOT from the space between the gear teeth (which makes the gear ratio a non-factor) but has all to do with the amount of rotor travel required to actuate enough resistance from the anti-reverse mechanism. So, the handle is not an accomplice. You'd be right about the "six times more play in the rotor than the handle" IF the anti-reverse were under the main gear whereby the rotor's reversal rotation is transfering torque from the pinion to the main gear, THEN you'd get that sort of play, which was true back in the Z-days and lighter SS models of yore. But since the anti-reverse is at the pinion gear, the main-gear-to-handle train bears no guilt in crimes of the un-reel. I appreciate your deep dive with the mechanics/materials. I've been fixing reels since I'm 9 years old and still can't overcome it. Any tips? :)

[@bigbuba16]

Welcome back buddy! Also congrats on the 10,000 subs!! Time to start making some more chedda!

[@bcutt8629]

Thank you very much I really like your content I appreciate it your breakdown is very thorough

[@zamora3D]

Awesome review as always. I am interested to see what you think of long range reels like a Shimano Ultegra XTD?

[@austinlkelly]

I second this. I have those and the Saragosas.

[@jorgecampa57]

Great video and very informative information about what makes a good fishing reel.

[@mylovebugcat]

Penn Slammer III Sizes 3500-5500 have automatic bail trip Sizes 6500-10500 have manual bail trip

[@miamiwax5504]

@the truth automatic means when u crank the handle an open bail will close. Manual means u have to flip an open bail closed by hand. An automatic bail can accidentally trip in the middle of your cast and u lose an expensive lure.

[@bigdaddyjb1613]

Just do the automatic delete.

[@lenoxcebu6533]

We use this reels exclusively for jigging here in Cebu Philippines. I use a slammer 4500 and my friend uses a gossa 8k. I pulled a 58lbs king mac using a 20lb jbraid w/ a 30lbs florou leader on my slammer and the drag was phenomenal. My only issue with the slammer is its cranking power but overall i love it. Still smooth as the day i bought it, no it’s actually more smoother now even after a year and a half of jigging , 16hrs a week for more than a year and still no issues its a tank🤣🤣🤣.

[@grinchdavis]

Dude I visit the Phil's quite often (pre-pandemic), would love to go fishing with you guys my next visit if possible

[@vinfish4697]

Sir Scoob has risen to speak from the depths below!!! Absolutely incredible comparison I’ll be testing the Gossa on some big boy reds and Snook

[@TackleAdvisors]

Thanks Buddy!!! Appreciate it! Sounds like the right tool for the job. I had a few 10k sw's when they first came out....sold em off after using only one since they collected dust as backups to 08 stella sw's one of the most durable reels out there!

[@vinfish4697]

Tackle Advisors do you still plan on doing the no bobbing Pr knot that’s going to be so interesting to see but I still love the FG

[@striperhunter-ic2wt]

Great job scoob. Sorry for your loss Keep up the good work.

[@TackleAdvisors]

Hey Mike, Thanks man..been an interesting month for sure...Appreciate it!

[@charliemaddock3459]

I bought the gosa 6000 put 30lb braid caught a couple 6 ft sharks on it from breakwall ( casting retrieving big baits) 2 weeks of use ! Now I can feel the gears ⚙️ working when I wind it , still very smooth. Getting the slammer 3 8500 for this type of fishing, going to use the gosa for lure fishing only 👌 . That’s my experience anyway hope it helps🙃

[@vsonic86]

53:54 I have a penn slammer 3 4500. I don't go into surf and get dunked by the wave or anything. But one day when I took it out for fishing where I used it to cast 2-4 ounces bucktails, it starts to produce noise just like in the video 53:54. Is there away to make fix that noise?

[@TackleAdvisors]

Does it make that sound without line on the roller like in the vid? As it could be your line roller bearing. If it does I'd replace the pinion bearings and line roller. Email penn and they may send em to ya no charge. I think boca makes a ceramic hybrid for like 10 bucks just gotta size em right. May be an upgrade...I know I've used em on daiwa bg's at that location

[@831savageoutdoorsman6]

I don’t have a slammer but I do have a 2 spinnfisher v one Is a LL they do start slugish but but as you put more time they do get smoother

[@rabidgp]

One thing I really like on my gosa 6k is how powerful the gearing is. I try other reels and have to wind a lot harder.

[@gonimysh]

What about the Daiwa BG ?

[@rabidgp]

@@gonimysh I have 3 sizes of the BG's, 2500, 4000, and forgot the size of the other one. The BG's are not well waterproofed, and this comparison is gosa vs slammer. I have since previously picked up a 5500 slammer and it is a nice reel, have some heavy braid on it 40lb and I can crank in cobia off the coast and use it in the surf with heavy weight.

[@gonimysh]

@@rabidgp Thank you for your answer but my question is about power. I know that the BG is sot sealed as a Saragosa and in the long run the Saragosa will live longer but what i want to know is which reel is more powerful, the Saragosa 6000 or the BG 4000. I am making you this questions since you have both. Thank You

[@rabidgp]

@@gonimysh The gosa is more powerful, smoother, and the consider that the two reels are not the same size. Surf fishing from the beach I can retrieve a 4 oz pyramid sinker and rig effortlessly, where the 4000 takes more effort. One issue with the gosa is to be careful to not drop the spool, I dropped the reel once from about 3 feet and it dinged the spool lip which I had to lightly sand so it wouldn't cut the line. The aluminum was softer than I thought it would be.

[@gonimysh]

@@rabidgp may i ask where are you from? I am curious to know what kind of rods and reels do you use. I live in Italy and for fishing from sandy shores we use usually 4,5 meters rods with big pit reels like the Shimano Power Aero 14000 XSB or the Basia Surf 45 QDA which have large spools for casting far 100 -150 meters using leads 100 - 200 grams. Reels like the Saragosa or the BG are used for heavy spinning and boat fishing.

[@otreb2726]

Ty very much for the comparison, it's exactly what I needed to watch!

[@BlamBan]

I just bought a slammer 3, I'll see how it is next month when i go back to Bermuda after university.

[@cyb3rtiger]

Kaelin Joseph I’m thinking about getting a Slammer.. 1 year later, update me how has your reel been?

[@cyb3rtiger]

the truth It’s great bro. Really good. The thing is, if you’re used to catching Spanish mackerel, small yellow jacks, or anything around that size really.. you need to lower the drag alllll the way down or else the reel is overkill. The reel is so strong, when a smaller fish gets on you almost can’t feel it on your line because drag isn’t being budged whatsoever. Definitely a secondary reel for boats/inshore/offshore. If you use it as your primary for Shore/beach, it feels great but it’s overkill to anything that you can catch. I.e. Don’t use a gun to kill a spider when you have a perfectly good shoe you can use

[@cyb3rtiger]

the truth 10/10 best reel I’ve ever used hands down.

[@cyb3rtiger]

the truth I got a 4500 myself because I needed a heavy duty reel because I like the water up to my stomach when I’m on the beach fishing. But even the 4500 is a Tuna/Tarpon/Kingfish reel. Anything smaller and you’re gonna be reeling in as easy as a commercial fisherman. I love this fucking reel though I’m looking at it right now

[@fadelover123]

@@cyb3rtiger there beasts. I love mine!

[@jimquantic]

Great comparison, wish we also covered (three way comparison) the Daiwa BG lines

[@dixonallen2610]

Also really like my Clash II reels too!

[@rusticmade]

Thank you for the video I have been wavering back and forth as to which one to buy for a cobia pitch rod.

[@FloridaSkiAnglers]

I have battle 2 4000, spinfisher v 5500 and penn 105 vintage never been service for almost a decade . I abused it and sometimes forgot to wash with fresh water and still smooth like new

[@davidshelton832]

Awesome video. I had written off the Slammer before the upgrades but you made me rethink the Saragosa. But wait, what about the Slammer 3 HS version? How does that compare?

[@allengallion930]

The almighty Scoob is back with another great review! You know your stuff and I've made several purchases based on your reviews. Thanks for all the great info! My 6k and 10k Gosa is still going strong as ever. Still plan on getting a slammer 3 though just to mix it up. I love the handle on em. I am really impressed with my Ballistic LT 6K also several big Tarpon on it and still butter smooth. We'll see how it is at the end of the fall after a few dozen really big fish.

[@vaughn1804]

Your intros are comedic gold!

[@TackleAdvisors]

Fer reel? I thought I phoned this one in .....back was hurtin too much to sit at the bench..lol

[@jordyg3187]

can you fix the freespool on the slammer 10500 because i like to have my rod and reel sitting down with loose drag but you cant get loose like really loose drag on the slammer

[@TackleAdvisors]

If you pull all the seals maybe. Never tried

[@kwikflikzyakadventures3795]

Great video, I'm going to go with the Penn Slammer 3 5500 because of the IPX6 rating that was done independently. Very Informative vid. Penn Slammer III 5500 Spin Reel Penn has been a long standing market leader in the production of strong, heavy duty saltwater fishing reels that can go toe to toe with the biggest & the best in Australian saltwater fishing and that is why for a third year in a row it has won the best new saltwater reel. To keep up with this tradition, Penn presents to you in 2016, The Slammer III spinning reels. The Penn Slammer III fishing reels are made using a full metal body, side plate & rotor and are then sealed using an IPX6 design which offers anglers a super strong reel that is ready for all kind of saltwater applications by keeping water out of the gears and drag system. All Slammer III spinning reel feature 6+1 Stainless steel ball bearings, CNC gearing systems and boasts an incredibly light weight design. When using the Penn Slammer III fishing reels, you can take advantage of the whopping max Dura-drag systems and the large size line capacities to chase all your favorite Australian saltwater fish species. Full Metal Body, Side Plate & Rotor IPX6 Sealed Body & Spool Design CNC Gearing Sealed Slammer Dura-Drag System Stainless Steel Ball Bearings Mono Capacity lb/yd: 430/10 330/12 230/15 Braid Capacity lb/yd: 500/20 380/30 335/40 Gear Ratio: 5.6:1 Max Drag: 18.1kg

[@r2d2fishing38]

Kwikflikz Yak ADVENTURES I own the slammer iii 5500 and I don't like it for surf fishing. It's heavy if you are throwing lures and I nearly lost mine when a jack took it out of the sand spike because the drag doesn't get loose. It's a great reel on the boat though.

[@kwikflikzyakadventures3795]

thanks for your reply great to know, I'm looking at ocean kayak fishing and mostly trolling for Tuna and Kingfish, appreciate the comment.

[@tphvictims5101]

I bought most of my Penn’s at Efingers back in the day. Jack was a good guy.

[@TackleAdvisors]

Didn't jack become a Jill?

[@dylon5x]

I was thinking of picking up a slammer 3 as a popping/ jigging reel for the occasional bluefin/yellowfin tuna trip I do get invited on. But now with the spinfisher 6 I’m a bit confused, I know the slammer has the stronger drag but it does seem to me that the spinfisher puts out enough drag to get the job done, any input is much appreciated

[@TackleAdvisors]

Assuming you're fishing at 20lbs of drag. You're probably lookin at the 6500 size. And the spinfisher gets brass gears and metal rotor so it's really close to the slammer. But I'd go slammer for the handle as it's more comfortable than the spinfisher

[@dylon5x]

Tackle Advisors thanks!

[@williama.santannajr.2676]

Slammer 3 does also ship with an EVA handle! I switch out to that in the winter months!

[@lukphom3727]

What’s a EVA handle

[@rebornspirit1047]

I have an Issue and hope you can help. My saragosa 6k sw has always had a issue with line lay out of the box. I've changed the shims and still can't find the perfect amount of shims for it.

[@jameskim9909]

I am happy with my three slammer 3 and Three Saragosa reels.

[@spincaster1497]

Wich best the new reel saltwater between the shimano takota 24 max drag and penn fathom 30 max drag can you recommend with me wich best thanks 🙏

[@tomreilly6637]

Hi Tackle Advisor. Can you review the Quantum Cabo's - some people say they are great and others say not. Would be good to see one of your in depth reviews against the Saragosa or similar. Thanks. Tom

[@timross3275]

What line do you have the slammer spooled with? I have been searching everywhere for it to put on my slammer. Bumble Bee look is awesome! Also, where are you, got me hooked and left me hanging. :)

[@timross3275]

C'mon man,were you at?

[@jamesmullen6423]

Do you have a buying guide for top of the line spinning reels? Looking into buying a penn torque 2 but can’t find any review/comparison with competitors.

[@montauked]

Just subscribed a couple of days ago. I love your videos. Very thorough and easily under stood. I would love to see a test on the new Okuma Alijos 2 speed lever drag reels. Keep up the good work. No one better than you on what you do!

[@floridafishermanpace798]

Love my slammer 3 and carnage two combo. Had it for 1 year

[@flopsy3333]

Hey man, great video as usual. Can you do offshore / surf rod? what brands worth to look at.

[@michaelvitopaa6171]

flopsy3333 shimano tiralejo and penn carnage ii rods are pretty good for surf

[@dandawson5750]

Thank you, very informative !!!! Well done !

[@1heinrich1990]

For kayaking which one would you go? Thanks for the nice review!

[@ethanfarrell313]

If personally you with the slammer, the size would be more comfortable and it give you the option for more drag

[@1heinrich1990]

@@ethanfarrell313 Thank you, I went for the saragosa about 7 weeks ago and loving it. Will go penn next time.

[@ethanfarrell313]

@@1heinrich1990 that’s good that your liking it

[@MIAthe305]

Why no videos on the Spheros? I’d love to hear your take on those in a full length video (I love here long detailed videos! Best on the Internet! )

[@manthosshorefishing]

great video man thanx i fish the shore jigging technique and i have the saragosa i would like to buy the penn for an extra reel ,would you say that is good for this technique?

[@TackleAdvisors]

Yes. I've been bucktailing like crazy the past month with it. The 4500 paired with fireline ultra 8 14lb test has been perfect for fish upto 20lbs in very heavy deep current. Not the reel I'd generally use but because it was free I've been trying to break it. And I'll be damned if it's no different than when I unboxed it. Ive fished next to a few friends that use the saragosa SW and we've switched setups. No difference in feel at all. Only lighter. And believe it or not it manages line as good. I'd buy the spinfisher over the Spheros and have a hard time justifying the gosas cost for everything I've been doing with it. And as long as the larger sizes perform the same as this one. I'm leaning spinfisher long cast off the beach and throw a dart spinfisher vi, slammer 3, Gosa SW for best boat reel under 300$

[@manthosshorefishing]

Thank you very much my friend you have covered me with your answer i think i am going to buy it and have it with an extra rod for heavy jigs or poppers thanks again

[@TackleAdvisors]

@@manthosshorefishing you're welcome. If you do make a purchase online. If you buy through any of the shopping links. It pays me a few bucks.

[@TackleAdvisors]

@@manthosshorefishing Worth mentioning.......When I replied to this it was on the youtube analytics app and it just shows the comment I'm replying to not what video the comment was in. I thought this was in a Spinfisher VI video not the slammer. I like the slammer 3 quite a bit. But I was referring to the Spinfisher VI. Sorry about that. bit.ly/PennSpinfisherVI

[@davidcaron714]

Great content. I wonder if Ave copies your phrases in his boltr videos or if it’s the other way around.

[@TackleAdvisors]

He's awesome and we think quite a like...I've heard him use a few sayings that i've used over the years......I haven't watched him in awhile and popped him on the other day and heard him use one of my favorites.....get two birds stoned with one bush......

[@dwhisel]

Great reviews!!! I’ve been binge watching all week. What would you prefer for Inshore fishing in the Carolinas between the Penn Battle DX, Slammer III or the Spinfisher VI? I’m looking at 4000/4500 sizes.

[@TackleAdvisors]

LOL.......thanks man! I'd get a Spinfisher...Or saragosa SW. Slammer is great...but a tad heavier and clunkier....I've seen some clunky slammers (top and bottom of the oscillation cycle annoying sensation)

[@dwhisel]

@@TackleAdvisors thank you sir!!

[@charliemaddock3459]

Hey man I’m really interested in what you said about greasing the roller bearings !! I have always used crc spray after wash down ! But what I think your saying is grease it heavily and leave it ?? Please just let me know what’s best because I would rather just grease all my line roller bearings on all reels and leave them for longer periods and no crc !?

[@FishFinder]

nice review. I have an older Saragosa and love it.

[@duranpillay4221]

Are you able to tell us the the thickness of the braid (diameter in mm ) for the line capacity ?

[@sebastianalzate2797]

How can I put a black handle with an EVA foam power knob on my 4500 slammer 3? are there parts from other reels that would fit?

[@TackleAdvisors]

Hmm there are aftermarket knobs available.. And I think Penn knobs are cross compatible

[@sebastianalzate2797]

@@TackleAdvisors Hey thanks for replying! I love all your videos! I called penn and they said that only some knobs and handles would fit the 4500 size. Like the handle assembly from the 4000 battle dx, or the handle assembly from from the 4000 clash 2 HS. Just not really sure what the best option is. I think the knob from the The clash 2 AU might fit as well but can't find one. I know the spin fisher and other similar handles will fit but I'm trying to get a foam knob. Not sure the 5500 slammer's foam knob will fit the 4500 size handle after speaking with penn, but it would be awesome if it did. Still haven't found an aftermarket knob that doesn't require some form of drilling , which I'd like to avoid, but I'll keep looking.

[@gameofman]

As usual, superb content 😍😍😍

[@TackleAdvisors]

Thanks man!

[@gameofman]

Tackle Advisors thanks too 👍👍👍

[@ابوخالد-د6ذ8ب]

Please, what is better, Sargossa or Slammer? My English is poor and I can't understand the video

[@graemeafek1474]

How is the Saragosa for the beach environment where salt and sand inevitably get to the reel?

[@TackleAdvisors]

It's one of if not the best outside of the van Staal zb range of reels

[@jimbo4612]

Own 2 Penn slammer 3 5500 and been up to my chest with 40lb stripers and the reel taking a swim. No probs ever. no corrosion no anything other than the Penn slammer bail closes a tad stiffer which actually helps in the long run if tossing lures. No premature bail closing breakoffs. Fishing bud actually owns a saragosa 5000 and it fucked up on a nice 35 lb striped bass which burned line and locked the spool up. Also noticed that my friends saragosa had damage on the line roller. Penns drag on the 5500 40lb. Hooked a 110lb white sturgeon by accident and the Penn had problem controlling this beast. Penn indeed has no rotor lean. Had ideas that the Penn might be less than penns old standards but pleasantly have found the Penn is solid as hell. Also have had waves splash the Penn over and over and no raspiness? not sure what happen to this one but mine gets put through hell and has never had a issue.

[@TackleAdvisors]

It really is a very good reel. As is the Gosa. After penn sent me the new spinfishers. I found one that was missing the hydrophobic coating. I asked penn if it should be there and if mine were retail release..and they confirmed it should be there and that they're pre retail......But 2 out of 3 had the coating....I say that because when i had that slammer....I thought I had messed something up...but I've now seen some penns with a barely there coating...and that slammer i think it was as missing as the one I have here. And that will allow water to get into the ar clutch area and kill that pinion support bearing which is what happened. The day it was dunked..all was good.....same with the next day not fishing it..the third day is got noisey... (saltwater) Penn replaced the reel and it is in tip top shape and back in the og owners hands. Quality control....every companies most important aspect..can be penns problem at times....Vids like this go a long way to push them to focus...(I know they are watching me wit the upcoming spinfisher vids i'm shooting...and when I launch the vid this week focusing on one of their november launch reels. They may get a tad nervous...But it's for the benefit of the consumer..And I don't recall in the history of a retail release anyone has done something like this

[@steventhompson558]

First of all, great, in-depth video comparison! Yesterday I was talking with a guy at my local B&T shop who was annoyed that he couldn't get his beloved 7 year old Shimano repaired because Shimano no longer has parts for it. He bought a Penn Slammer instead. This was not surprising to hear about Shimano -- they do the same with their cycling parts. I guess that is what they refer to as planned obsolesce. Shimano makes some really good stuff, but they're constantly changing things. There is certainly something to be be said about change for improvement, but I think Shimano changes just to change -- and then they market that small change as a huge improvement that you can't live without. I have both Shimano and Penn reels. In this case, I opted to go with the Slammer for surf fishing because it is a very competent reel and I want to be able to fix and service my reel should southing go wrong a few years from now.

[@FranktheTank319]

My Slammer 3 6500 laid line crooked. I had to change the bushings to the thinner ones that came in the box. After I did that, it was just as nice as your reel. But I love the look of this reel. I wouldn't mind the shimano, but it's not as striking... Get it? lol

[@rtorres3442]

Hey bud happy new year. Really appreciate your in-depth reviews on gear. I'm considering both of these as an option for surf plugging here in the Northeast but did hear that the Saragosa's have an issue with line slap against the rod guide in some cases because of the design of the reel foot which seems was designed more for jigging. If this in fact is the case I'll likely lean more towards a Slammer, Saltist or Spheros. Can you elaborate on this? Thanks.

[@TackleAdvisors]

It depends on the guide layout. In some instances there will be a bit of line slap due to the parallel reel foot.

[@rtorres3442]

Makes sense. Has Penn addressed the knocking issue you mentioned at 29:00 and is it more of an issue on the larger sized reels? Thanks.

[@leonardlucioscordeirokusdr5119]

What reel has better long cast Saragossa 18000 or penn slammer iv?

[@dixonallen2610]

You should always manually close the bail on all spinning reels...

[@thetylerklein]

Scoob what line is on the slammer? Looks sweet I need to spool mine. Just bought 500yds of 30lb PP but I like the thought of trying a new line...

[@TackleAdvisors]

It's fireline tracer braid. I believe it was old stock (still one of my favorites)

[@vladocamus]

Great review! I have Saragosa 8000, and i hear the "knock" every time the spool is going up and down. Is it normal for Saragosa? Ty :)

[@DaveMars0]

I need a shore jigging reel in combo with a Majorcraft Solpara 1002h 60-100g. Penn Slammer 5500 or Saragosa 8000 or BG mq 8000??