Arfernee was unguardable. They couldn’t guard because of his speed and the blocks wouldn’t work because of his insanely agile maneuverability
@Cannon45456 ай бұрын
Not to mention his crazy length for a guard
@Bruhda16 ай бұрын
He was super bouncy super athletic and long he was just too good💪🏾
@mildred1217 Жыл бұрын
Penny was the most talented player in the nba history. Without injuries, I put him over Lebron, kobe, Grant and Tmac. He was a magical player who could score like MJ and pass like Magic. Maybe we should ask Shaq who played with Lebron, Kobe and Penny.
@aaronflowers888111 ай бұрын
I love when people give Penny his props.
@Xenon-h9z11 ай бұрын
"Most talented player in NBA history" is a real stretch... he never even hit his prime. But without injuries, yeah, he's over Kobe for sure, possibly over an uninjured Grant, Tmac, and probably Lebron.
@Dwayne-i9f9 ай бұрын
Fact's
@Bruhda16 ай бұрын
@@Xenon-h9zbig facts
@Bruhda15 ай бұрын
@@Xenon-h9z Big facts ☝🏾
@brianschultz27873 жыл бұрын
Penny was amazing
@danltm Жыл бұрын
Another sad case of injury disrupting a beautiful career
@rayutwenty-four6753 Жыл бұрын
When everybody wanted to be like Mike, Mike wanted to be like Penny during that time.
@NotAnAstronaut2k8 ай бұрын
Stop that bs lol
@joshlynn31858 ай бұрын
mike at 33 with 3 rings at the time wants to a 25 y/o Penny with 0 rings ever. Yea they thought Penny would pass MJ and win and start a dynasty… they thought Lebron would do that too 😂😂😂😂
@TROYBALLER4 ай бұрын
No, you are wrong, MJ was MJ. But Penny Hardaway was extremely talented, probably would off been top 15 ALL time pre-injury. But Penny was finished after 3 seasons because of his knees ,and failed surgery,s
@jamesperez67852 жыл бұрын
I guess penny was a lot stronger than he gets credit for. @1:38 you can see him posting up PF corey blount (6'9 ~220-240lbs). i still don't understand how it's possible lol
@carlwallace11292 жыл бұрын
Penny had a lethal midpost game. He started getting stronger after his rookie season he added on weight to absorb that contact
@awakethemaster Жыл бұрын
He was supposed to added muscle and not just only weight as David Robinson or MJ. Doing that on time, before his injury, would let him to less change of an injury. Muscle protect the structural body
@MrGeesco3211 ай бұрын
Penny was so cold!! He could do it all.
@emmethawe3492 жыл бұрын
Penny came in to the league at an Elite level ready to go. Some of the numbers he put up on a prime MJ and those mid 90’s Bulls was just insane. I like Kobe but Penny was the truth.
@sicnarf69712 жыл бұрын
Funny how you throw shade at Kobe while saying you "like him" You left out the REAL Truth though. Penny came into the league at age 22, so OBVIOUSLY he's going to be more "ready to go". At age 22, Kobe was averaging 28.5 points per game and winning a title. Stop it. Penny was a great passer but his HIGHEST PPG was 21.7 They're 2 different players. Kobe was more like Mike. Penny was more a lesser hybrid of Mike / Magic. N I like Penny.
@911FitClub2 жыл бұрын
@@sicnarf6971 Kobe was like MJ in the sense that they were both ball-hogs in desperate need of Phil Jackson and the triangle to stop them from sabotaging themselves. Penny was a much better facilitator than both with a lackluster supporting cast. I don't understand why basketball fans have this affinity to cling to the ball-hog style when we KNOW that shxx does NOT work. But someone comes in and scores 60ppg and still manage to lose the fans are still in awe. Amazing.
@sicnarf69712 жыл бұрын
@@911FitClub He was drafted into a team with Shaquille o Neal but he has no supporting cast? Then when they couldn’t work together he went to Suns to play with Jason Kidd+ but he had no supporting cast? Lmao stfu scrub, you have no idea what you’re talking about
@charlesberry48852 жыл бұрын
@@sicnarf6971 wrong idiot! Harvests injury problems started after Shaq left. Actually in playoffs of 96! Plus white Shaq was there Shaq was main option! Hardaway was team player and chosen to be the number 2! But when her needed and asked on, he more then willing put them on his shoulders and carried the load! So know your stuff
@charlesberry48852 жыл бұрын
@@sicnarf6971 yes highest because he got serious knee injury that never got better! And Kobe never got all NBA first team until like his fourth season of whatnot unite penny who got first team all NBA twice in his first three seasons and all NBA third team in 97 until knee took him out of elite level!
@mkenglis Жыл бұрын
Penny was more skilled than Kobe. Jordan was more athletic than Penny and Kobe. Kobe was a harder worker than Penny and Jordan
@yunggpacino Жыл бұрын
Jordan was better than Penny and kobe
@themansince5 ай бұрын
Nobody played and work harder than MJ.
@djdecimator975 ай бұрын
MJ had the mental killer instinct like a Cerebral Assassin, Lebron had the toughest body hence the longevity, Penny had the magic touch yet so fragile, I rooted for him back in the mid 90s, and he could have been up there with the GOATs if not for this fragility.
@Bruhda15 ай бұрын
@@mkenglis Penny was just as athletic at 6'7 as MJ was at 6'6 they both were way more athletic and quicker than Kobe,MJ was just extra aggressive and would dominate you on the scoring and so would Kobe what actually set them apart from Penny was their health and that they were both mainly scorers not facilitators see Penny was all about team ball he would take over games only when the team needed him too like Magic but he was better scorer than Magic with the same basketball IQ with the athleticism and scoring mentality of MJ,Penny was one cold ass player and his game was also comparable to George Iceman Gervin I just wish we hadn't got robbed of seeing what he would of become in his prime cause he was a generational talent like Mike.
@Cannon454515 күн бұрын
@@Bruhda1 Penny was definitely more athletic than Kobe, but he was not close to MJ's level. You just don't know what you're talking about.
@patrickbateman803 жыл бұрын
Penny, without injuries, could have become what kobe was in the 2000s, or maybe more stronger than him!
@Yaya119983 жыл бұрын
Idk about that
@Agility0072 жыл бұрын
This comment is disrespectful
@patrickbateman802 жыл бұрын
@@Agility007 you didn’t understand nothing about my words.
@rhyno86442 жыл бұрын
Wtf Penny Hardaway was way better physically than Kobe Bryant before he got hurt. Penny wasn't even a pure three point shooter. The only other players shoes Jordan ever wore was Penny Hathaway's. He even said Penny was the best point guard he faced in the NBA. It would have been Lin Bias. But he over dosed. There was one player who walked off a high school basketball court chosen to play the dream team. There was one player who beat the Bulls his rookie year and lead his team to the finals. Theres no reason why Kobe would have even started his third season with the Lakers if Nick Van Exel didn't keep getting arrested and the Lakers didn't have to switch out the back court trading him to the Nuggets. The Lakers actually recruited Kobe to be a point guard. Eddie Jones led the league in threes and steals.
@doeb32 жыл бұрын
@@Agility007 Penny came in with that IT factor very similar to magic but more athletic, better shooting & finishing. He was the real deal from day 1 & really made his teammates better. Kobe had to mature when he came in the league… Kobe had the benefit of playing with prime Shaq & Phil Jackson. Penny played with Shaq 3 years in his career and took an expansion magic team to the finals. Sure they didn’t win but Shaq and penny actually faced legit competition in that finals, whereas Kobe and Shaqs’ finals competition is very lackluster. Kobe turned out to have the better career & be the better player but Penny before the injury was on the same level as Kobe. The numbers may not speak but the footage shows.
@n.dewayneb92583 жыл бұрын
If anything, this video should have been titled “Penny Hardaway versus Eddie Jones” since those were the two starting guards.
@carlwallace11292 жыл бұрын
Facts .Eddie played the balk of the minutes Kobe just was a spark plug earning more minutes above garbage time. THIS was borderline click bait .lol
@brandonwhite69888 ай бұрын
Penny honestly was better no joke
@bruceleroy17703 жыл бұрын
Kobe didn’t get that much burn that game. But the little time he got he did his thing. The Lakers were stacked with guards during that time. Penny was crazy.
@pancakesarealwaysbetter8 ай бұрын
Penny did EVERYTHING!
@thatguyronwaiters64853 жыл бұрын
2 of my top 10 favorite players 🤔possibly 1and 2
@rjallday2810 ай бұрын
This was the game Brian Shaw was talking about on that podcast.
@kendallbledsoe65483 жыл бұрын
If penny never had those injuries smh.. He was going to be a serious problem...
@carlwallace11292 жыл бұрын
Absolutely ✔💯
@TROYBALLER Жыл бұрын
Probably Top 20 All Time deffantly
@brooksfleming76432 жыл бұрын
The shoes were a dope idea. Lol
@miket87632 жыл бұрын
Hardaway was a naturally gifted baller.. A gun straight out of the blocks..needed nobody to learn from. Kobe replicated and learned from the greatest ever in MJ.. and it took some time.
@carlwallace11292 жыл бұрын
Great Breakdown
@marlowstanfield6815 Жыл бұрын
"A gun straight out the block " ??Kobe was 18 years old when he was drafted, Penny was 22 😆🤣😂😹😆. Lol casuals always make comments with zero context and act like they just made a smart take lol okay smart guy 😆 🤣
@miket8763 Жыл бұрын
@@marlowstanfield6815 Don't cry about it, Hardaway was a better baller from day dot, its common knowledge. And I was there in real time, I can tell you weren't.
@marlowstanfield6815 Жыл бұрын
@@miket8763 Compare Kobes stats at 22 to Penny's stats at 22. Kobe averaged 28 ppg at 22 years old while also making 1st team all NBA defense. What did Penny do at 22? "From day dot" Penny was 22 years old right? Compare 22 year old Penny to 22 year old Kobe??? But casual haters don't want that lol, they want to compare 22 year old Penny to 18 year old Kobe lol, Penny wasn't even good enough to make to the NBA at 18 years old you casual 🤣 😂
@miket8763 Жыл бұрын
@@marlowstanfield6815 It's pretty simple.. Penny was Rockstar status and Kobe wasn't.. Kobe became eventually but Penny just was. I saw it all unfold in real time and if you didn't you'll never know. Kobe entering the league early was his problem nobody else's. I like Kobe btw but he got a lot of fandorks.
@rasheemfoster87 Жыл бұрын
Throwback🙏🏀
@stevenford18287 ай бұрын
I am a bit prejudice since being from Memphis...I love Penny and Kobe. Miss KB (RIP). God is Good! ❤
@n.dewayneb92583 жыл бұрын
Throughout this entire video I never once saw Kobe or a penny guard each other. So, basically their teams play each other, but they never matched up against one another. Penny Hardaway was definitely better than Kobe at this juncture and Kobe’s career, as Kobe was a rookie. But of course everyone knows how their careers turned out, respectively.
@DrDEuCeWrLd2 жыл бұрын
2:20
@carlwallace1129 Жыл бұрын
@@DrDEuCeWrLd that was Dennis Scott at the 2:20 mark getting served by kobe. LOL nice try
@parkhyungkim7667 Жыл бұрын
I've always wondered why nobody asked Lakers coach Phil Donahue how come he didn't want to give Kobe more minutes in the game.
@lakaybadboy8083 Жыл бұрын
Penny
@kylejames45704 жыл бұрын
these are the original kobe shoe!
@kylejames45703 жыл бұрын
eqt top ten 2010
@louisstipe99172 жыл бұрын
I need em
@roblee92542 жыл бұрын
original kobes were adidas feet you wear
@roblee92542 жыл бұрын
kinda a shit shoe
@kylejames45702 жыл бұрын
@@roblee9254 you didn’t get to wear them obviously
@ameliaszczepanska3382 Жыл бұрын
Would’ve been the greatest player of all time had he stayed fit
@Xenon-h9z11 ай бұрын
He stayed "fit", he just got injured.
@themansince5 ай бұрын
He was never going to be that good
@woodsd44 ай бұрын
Penny, always. Played and made it look easy
@raptorxxxx-dd1fh3 жыл бұрын
penny is actually more skilled than kobe.
@chriswalls58313 жыл бұрын
Kobe more skilled than Jordan penny good player but I won't agree there
@chriswalls58313 жыл бұрын
@Preacher Man shaq on crack lol Chauncey Billups said Kobe most skilled player dr. J said Kobe is one best to ever play.
@peterhappenshere3 жыл бұрын
@@chriswalls5831 Penny had mad talent. I mean way beyond imagination!! But because of this he never thought and was never told that sky is the limit regarding improving your game. I mean the amount of work MJ and Kobe put in as we know by now is way more than Penny ever considered in his prime I guess. But they been told that. Without his injuries and with a mentor or coach who has the mindset and work ethic of MJ or even Kobe for example Penny would have became a top 5 of all time, period. You have to respect that. Back to the basic argument I do think he was more skilled than Kobe comparing their first 3-5 years in the league..... he was just unlucky regarding health and people around him.
@scarykurapika100yago23 жыл бұрын
@@chriswalls5831 Ofcourse cuz Kobe had longevity to work on his game more.. Penny's career was cut short due injuries but he was very skilled from the get go.. imagine if he stayed healthy and improved his game more later.. he would've been as skilled if not more skilled than Kobe
@robertdelmundo14733 жыл бұрын
More skillet than jordan???hahaha moron
@ryry743527 күн бұрын
Kobe should’ve been playing way more at least 20-25 minutes a game. Before injury Penny was scary. Bar no injuries these two would’ve been a lot closer in careers. Grant Hill and D Rose as well!
@dexterpereira996Ай бұрын
penny was bigger than kobe in the 90's together with grant hill they were supposed to be the next jordan
@toreano316010 ай бұрын
Penny was like kobe big brother
@toreano316010 ай бұрын
Must have been hard seeing shaq leave Orlando
@2020Viszion Жыл бұрын
Weird comment. 'is more skilled'? 1. Neither of them IS still playing. 2. This game: Kobe was a rookie and didn't even start while Penny was already an MVP candidate.
@billblaski9523 Жыл бұрын
Damn, Pennys last great season before injuries got his career😢
@brandonstanfield-pp1ex11 ай бұрын
98 YOU MUST SMOKE ALOT LOUD BECAUSE YOU MUST FORGET WHAT HE DID TO MIAMI HEAT IN THE FOAMPOSITE'S
@AndrewsOpinion159 ай бұрын
GOD GIVE US BACK KOBE BRYANT AND WILL GIVE U TROY FRITH !!!
@stevehuang26124 жыл бұрын
Lol why the slow mo focus @2:22 for the crossover? Wasn’t a particularly impressive one. Kobe has had way better crosses
@carlwallace11292 жыл бұрын
Ikr Lol slo mo against Dennis Scott all 3 and no D playing self 🤣, Maybe not in this game because Dale Harris would tease kobe's playing time against some teams.
@stevenallen62452 жыл бұрын
Eddie Jones was just as talented too but the focus was not on him..
@ButtZilla2 жыл бұрын
Eddie was talented but he loved shooting the 3 too much and he wasn't really Ray. He was no franchise player. A good 2nd option.
@stevenallen62452 жыл бұрын
@@ButtZilla good point👍🏾
@carlwallace11292 жыл бұрын
@@ButtZilla great point. Eddie never developed any counter ballhandling moves off the dribble nor never was more than average in the mid range where as kobe excell in both that made defenders have to be more honest or work harder.
@TheTonytone77 Жыл бұрын
Eddie was very talented but didn't have the work ethic
@robg9145 Жыл бұрын
This shows that kobe was a baby compared to penny !! Kobe started studying mj after this !!!!
@nelsoncollins422310 ай бұрын
Took his lunch money.
@beexiong29952 жыл бұрын
Kobe has rings. Penny doesn't
@ButtZilla2 жыл бұрын
I hear ya. Horry better than Kobe 😏
@beexiong29952 жыл бұрын
@@ButtZilla horry or Kerr who you got? Lol. Both arent good without their stars
@theonlygoodonehere22592 жыл бұрын
@@beexiong2995 horry, because he is actually clutch and bailed out many of those star guys from elimination
@ethanquenum47782 жыл бұрын
@@ButtZilla Yup. Horny's better.
@Rambo20244 Жыл бұрын
lol horry and fisher bailed out kobe a few times
@chriswalls58313 жыл бұрын
Penny was good player but Kobe goat
@carlwallace11292 жыл бұрын
Prime Penny was very Good at least. Jordan Kobe Bron Is the GOAT order IMO.
@Rambo20244 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 kobe stan spotted
@VidalWilliams-b5b4 ай бұрын
Him and Steve Francis
@tonymills6553 Жыл бұрын
Yall dillusional if u think Penny was more skilled than Kobe! Hardaway was taller ,,thats bout it! 😂😂