People Are Making Big Money Kicking Detroit Residents Out Of Their Homes (HBO)

[@VICENews]

VICE News followed this year’s tax foreclosure auction and investigated how the county financially benefits from the process. WATCH NEXT on housing in America - bit.ly/2BAgSJ4

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[@jasonatkins6111]

So she bought a home for $3000 (?) and cant pay $2000 (?) property tax? What does she spend all her money on? Does this happen in Las Vegas? I'd love to buy couple of dozen houses like these. Then evicting people would be just a nice bonus.

[@millymoreira9407]

Jason Atkins you guys has no sense of humannity

[@jasonatkins6111]

+Kellyj Carmo I knew somehow this would be my fault, not the lazy deadbeat woman who refuse to pay her debt obligation. what is wrong with you?

[@millymoreira9407]

Jason Atkins This is exactly my question to you. If you don't even know what i'm talking about and the meaning of the video, I can only by sorry. I expect you live a happy life and never came short on money.

[@MrEmpireBuilder0000]

Property tax is the country telling you you don't own that place. No matter what they say, you're only a glorified renter. All home owners are glorified renters. Nobody owns anything under this system.

[@filmquerade]

Right I hered Alaska dosen't charge property taxes I really wanna go out there.

[@jenanjuice2003]

Yep and now with trump tax reform, my dad is paying taxes even though he owns 2 homes. There is literally no reason to own a home

[@johnlinsky19]

@@jenanjuice2003 explain, you make no sense. owning 2 homes = not paying taxes?

[@supremeleaderharryballs8104]

@@jenanjuice2003 yeah man before Trump no one paid taxes on the homes they owned mehh

[@erikayahchelle1123]

FACTS!! I was telling my dad the other day, even if you pay for the house the government owns the land underneath and you have to still pay property tax!! I’m thinking about living in an RV.. At least then I’ll only have to pay renewal fees..

[@curtjrich15]

Man this bugs me. How can a city do this to people. 85% of houses assesed to highly? Isnt that fraud?

[@max19116]

Curtis Richardson no it’s not. Home assessments are not based on true market value. Market value can help steer an assessment but their is a formula written into the code of how a house should be appraised. If you disagree with an assessment it can be appealed either with or without legal representation. We are also not talking about 10 of thousands of dollars. Her tax was 1200 a year. After penalty’s and interest it ballooned. Why should we feel sorry for these dead beats who refuse to pay taxes.

[@mathewhill5556]

It's not like an "over assessment" means anything to a $3,200 house? How much less can they assess it? Also, what are the factors driving down the home pricess in the first place?

[@SuperZap12345]

The demographics.

[@rawsketch]

If people with money want something from people without money, the law will allow them to do it.

[@AmishWebmaster]

That's how ballparks get paid for with taxpayer money.

[@joshsmit779]

You can buy a house for $3,000 in Detroit? That is like 1 month rent in SF

[@muyezhang343]

honestly, if you managed to get a decent job in detroit, a bit of a myth but they do exists, and find a neighborhood that's still safe, also rare, but exist, you can actually have a pretty good life there in terms of saving money

[@onamiilove777]

You can buy an abandon block for 20k. But your taxes are outrageous.

[@craigsliwstdcs4135]

Don't get any idea Cali boy lol

[@VillainRadio]

White privilege cards are revoked in Detroit neighborhoods. You'd get constantly harassed and robbed.

[@CountryKyle007]

Do yourself a favor and stay in San Fran white boy.

[@chumbly4857]

"People can't afford their houses, so we buy them and increase their rent."

[@dvdbrl566]

"People keep making poor financial choices, so we're going to buy their house and threaten them with eviction to force them to make better financial choices."

[@rakishaeverett4636]

@@dvdbrl566 right 😒. Keep telling yourself that poor people deserve to treated like 🗑️ oh especially there children. Never mind the whole Auto industry that supplyed jobs went overseas and a recession.

[@TheRealCartman1]

@@rakishaeverett4636 let's try some basic math and research here which clearly Vice doesn't do. She bought her home for just under $4,000, assuming the city had the value at 20x what she paid her property taxes are $1880 per year - that's the deal of the century!! She pays $6,000 in the first year then only $1880 per year after that! There is missing facts that Vice clearly doesn't want to share with us here, they want to present this woman as the poor victim rather then tell us the truth of the situation.

[@rakishaeverett4636]

@@TheRealCartman1 she lost her house due to taxes being raised. Basic math isn't the problem treating working class people like garbage 🙄 is

[@TheRealCartman1]

@@rakishaeverett4636 can you translate your reply from Ebonics into English please?

[@facecandystudio]

This is fraud and the whole damn city hall and mayor should go to jail. This is so wrong!

[@blasterssen1]

They are democrats and democrats are kings in Detroit because black people vote for them regardless. They are like Jussie Smollett on steroids.

[@madd160]

@@blasterssen1 And what about the Republican strongholds of Arkansas, Alabama, Mississippi - Every one of those states is an economic shithole with wealth so concentrated its insane

[@McKewlBeanz]

@@madd160 ya but they cant even hold a candle to detroit

[@camerond8176]

Your right it is fraud, however the city and county make the rules and police enforce them because they are paid by them. Once again, those who have the money use it to make MORE money. Those who don't have the money use their time and skills to earn peanuts so the rich can make even MORE money.

[@Huddy52]

@dskmb3 you really cant put the pieces together yourself on that?

[@rcas350pilot8]

As I said before many times, the USA is not a good place to be poor or down on your luck. This is a great country if you are well off and this trend will just continue. Its getting to the point where you need to be well off to afford decent housing.

[@MultiSmartass1]

Its always been this way in this country. It's good for the rich, bad for the poor. If you are working class and middle class, all you can do is keep working and hold on to their money.

[@jays194]

Work,pay rent get fucked up,its all I can do

[@gottalovesaurav]

still 1000x better than third world countries

[@jays194]

I'm not complaining even if I had money I still be doing the same thing

[@FaithandNova]

@@gottalovesaurav exactly if other places was so amazing many ppl wouldn't be trying to come here

[@LokianGOP]

So even if you own the home..you don't own the home.

[@rjgthuro]

LokianGOP taxes...

[@aspiring...]

It's so wrong. I didn't hear her say mortgage. How can they just take homes. Should be illegal

[@andregarcia5612]

You bought a house for 3 G's. What did they think was going to happen ?

[@rjgthuro]

Andre Garcia too good to be true in the flesh. There is always some repercussion.

[@brandon152lee]

LokianGOP welcome to the United States. Our forefathers would be showing their asses before the country got to this point

[@Nicole44444]

I understand that everyone has to make a living somehow, but this just feels yucky, predatory, and depressing.

[@vanessatheurbantarotgoddes2192]

Ghettos are made....then they go in and buy them out

[@hw7985]

That’s because it is yucky and predatory.

[@timwhiting6721]

Wow, no wonder Detroit is dying. That's so crooked to do to people.

[@ikie18]

It was already death.

[@donaldronk1378]

Keep voting for the Democrats and the whole country will be like this. Just ask AOC, she will put 10 additional people in your house and call it social progressivism. You know like the Communist did in 1917 when they took over Russia.

[@glxjchaos7775]

Donald Ronk lmao but if it’s socialism this wouldn’t happen

[@TravistheGREAT03]

@@glxjchaos7775 You are right, udner socialism we would chase garbage trucks in the streets in hop of scavenging something to eat.

[@paulwilliams2024]

Tim Whiting dude it was already dead

[@boomborgoyari5781]

Detroit a perfect example of failed system.

[@VJ-zw7xz]

Yes this is why my city is so bad the government sucks

[@elcapitalista007]

Its has been controlled by democrats since 1950s.

[@TheRTM]

@@elcapitalista007 Just got to love how simple minded people make simplistic bullshit “its the Democrats” arguments.

[@meowhisspurrrscratch6961]

@@elcapitalista007 rats could run the city better than the liberals. Well, lol rats and libs are the same thing but you get it haha 😄

[@ShawnAR25]

Bl@ck people

[@newnana9070]

How is the City and the County trying to help these homeowners that were over taxed?????????? This is stealing!!!

[@b3at2]

New Nana its the city balancing its budget on peoples backs

[@jamesedwards3923]

I am dealing with a similar situation. I am getting my paperwork in order. One by this time next year. Court, and I will probably win.

[@soraiya2065]

@@jamesedwards3923 Good luck. Hope it goes your way!

[@sickstuff7624]

Does it really matter in this situation. She paid 1k towards her taxes in the past decade. I doubt reassessing her property would have helped out much.

[@jamesedwards3923]

@@sickstuff7624 I agree you would be putting on more person out on the street who has a job. Except people forget affordable housing with a mail box is required for a job.

[@GIGIPIXELS]

Gentrification just doesn't happen, there is a system that is put into action.

[@theerepenterakatheecomfort277]

yea gigi and you just saw the plan it was clearaf

[@caylonmustiful9746]

Democrats are behind it and can get that through ypu thick skull. Ask yourself this why all black folks moving to the south

[@hazelbasil6451]

@Tim W I love how Republicans act like there isn't endless cycles of poverty and a failing education system in red states. 9 out of 10 of the poorest states are republican so lets not even do that.

[@Cakebattered]

The city and county are stealing from Detroiters through over-taxation and seizures, but they are killing their tax base in the long run. The home values will continue to plummet, as citizens continue to leave the area. Eventually, the investors will bail on their properties too, as they will soon struggle to find renters or buyers. Corruption at its finest.

[@aerostar9376]

College students/tech people will probably move in because Detroit offers the great lakes and cheap prices

[@theuglykwan]

No. They are targetting poor people they want rid of so gentrification can continue unimpeded. This is reverse white flight.

[@Tim85-y2q]

Not necessarily. It is (or can be) a form of gentrification, where those who are displaced (at least in theory) will be replaced by those who can afford it.

[@LA_Unconfidential]

That father and son is how predators currently look and act in America today. They appear clean, polite, hip, well-dressed and understanding, but in fact they are hardcore predators that will kick your mother dying of cancer out in the streets if she is even 50 dollars short on rent. The son is making it seem like he is doing them a favor or something, my god.....go to hell if there is one.

[@ms.whitefolks1223]

The way poor people get ripped off is just sickening.

[@caroled5734]

This was so sad. I bought my home when I was 67 and my mortgage has gone up drastically in the last nine years because they’ve reassessed and raised my taxes so much. But at least I still have the hope of keeping my home. My heart breaks for these people.

[@paulinesmagic9591]

I don't believe anyones property should be stolen due to taxes.

[@scottsmith7205]

Me either. But I'm moving to Florida where there is no property tax or income tax. They just tax tourism highly to pick up slack.

[@wrenchaholic]

@@scottsmith7205 dead wrong , come on down to fla we pay taxes too bro.

[@wvadam]

if you owe 10 grand in taxes and all they take is your $3k house you are getting the better end of the deal. Just buy another $3k house and don't pay taxes for the next 10 years.

[@wvadam]

When they complain there is never a cop around when you need one you can tell them - that's why

[@coldwind1791]

Brough Jidus You still pay federal income tax but the state does not tax you.

[@ineedhoez]

This is unconscionable. Ok maybe a few people. But 85%? Come on man... I am shook.

[@BasedGiant88]

What exactly is wrong with it though? They didn't pay their taxes.

[@Vastatio]

Daniel Kintigh when they showed the map of Detroit and it's properties nearly everything was delinquent

[@JordanB10]

a one it’s stupid because it’s like they’re paying taxes of a 300k home when in reality their home is only worth like 50k, it’s a flawed system

[@paulwilliams2024]

a one very true they didn’t , but the taxes are over charged

[@mathwizree]

What a lot of people don't understand is that when you pay off your mortgage (if you was so fortunate). That was for ownership of your house. The taxes you pay every year is for your land and what ever your city may charge in fees. So many people will see burned out houses in bad neighborhoods and what investors see is land. The land your house sit on is actually more valuable then the house itself. All the investor have to do is wait until a major municipality situation turns around for the better. They can then tear down your house and either build another one and flip it or sell the land for thousands more. In Detroit downtown area has build up tremendously in the last 4-5 years. In that same area around Cass corridors was then considered one of the worst areas around almost like a small skid row. Now in that same area they built Little Ceasars Arena, new business and apartments. So the land that use to have houses on them, investors bought for$500 did nothing to improve the area but had enough financial capital to wait until the city turned around and sold that land for millions to build the new stadium or parking lots. Investors are smart many of them all ready know the city plans and work very close with elected officials so they know what area to target years in advance. This is sad but it's the truth and is happening every where.

[@learningearning8385]

Rita Wms information is power sis. Not enough of our people have the education. Especially to sit in on city meetings & follow where the development is happening

[@mikedobby-jooga5547]

Why is it sad?

[@Xergecuz]

It's the same game everywhere.

[@itsmenykia]

Thanks for the info

[@MrSupernova111]

That's exactly right!

[@rogermarlin3758]

I'm guessing by now everyone in Detroit is homeless seeing things got so bad.

[@b-genspinster7895]

They’re all moving to either Colorado, Montana or Texas. Where as some are commenting are expensive for poor.

[@philipmcgee8425]

@@b-genspinster7895 Not sure about Texas but good luck finding a sfh in colorado or montana for under 350k. I live out west and prices are stupid high. Much worse for working class people than Michigan. Im actually looking at home prices in the southeast and midwest and thinking about moving my family out that way.

[@b-genspinster7895]

@@philipmcgee8425 I myself am considering possibly Nebraska. With all the people flooding in and the crowds at the parks and recreation not being any fun anymore, the mountain west isn’t as appealing as it once was. Besides, it’s going to have to start being regulated it’s so overpopulated now. For what it is.

[@philipmcgee8425]

@@b-genspinster7895 Yeah idk. Im in SLC currently but I gotta have mountains. Considering Arkansas or Western NC currently.

[@lpe655]

​@philipmcgee8425 Iowa is dirt cheap but that's bc no one wants to live there unless ur a commercial farmer. LOL.

[@quinitawhitfield9541]

People in the comments really dont get it. You shouldn't be taxed on a home at 10x its value because the government messed up. People in these communities dont have the resources to know how they can contest any of the tax battle. The city was falling a part for years. I have at least 10 family members in Detroit. My cousin bought her house for $3000 and is subjected to this bullshit. Have you ever had a credit card with over 20% interest? Now imagine that the company charges you interest on 10x the credit limit, when you only have 1/10 used. Tell me how f**ked that will make your bill.

[@victornewman06]

Exactly! And if she didn't pay in a lump sum, she would have payments with property taxes going into an escrow account. They overtaxed and "misplaced" the paperwork. This is capitalism at its worst.

[@zereflinob8270]

why use the credit card then

[@petenrita]

exactly. there should be a court challenge. she was not getting the services that justified such an assessment. It sure is a convenient way to move out people. hmmm...if the prop tax fell as it should have, many like the lady would still be in their homes.

[@petenrita]

i'll one up you, when capitalism meets a local government to conspire against the People, the People lose 99% of the time...the buyer is right. it is the government selling out its own people... :(

[@leoncutajar1369]

The reality is in most countries you don't own your property. You only control it for as long as the government lets you.

[@YakoffShmirnoff]

"Governments are Making big Money Kicking Detroit Residents out of their Homes" There, I fixed your video title

[@texasgun2731]

uuuuhhhh no, a private buyer is not the govt

[@Eesiel]

alfred selle- Maybe the tax system should be written in such a way that governments can't randomly steal poor people's shit and sell it off to their rich cronies. Maybe the slime ball profiting off of this should find a way to make a legitimate living that doesn't involve depriving the people who built Detroit of their right to the upward mobility...

[@jaywalt8418]

alfred selle you clearly didn’t watch the video lol

[@approachinggnosis4613]

Texas Gun government is selling debt

[@junuvojam8453]

No they are loosing money, they are never going to get that full 25K of tax debt back.

[@curiousnomadic]

You never own a home in the USA. You're just leasing it from your city yet paying for all the risk and repair Get out while you can.

[@Tim85-y2q]

Generally speaking, you still have more security and (in most cases) more stabilized costs compared to renters.

[@christiecrawford1653]

Don't forget insurance. Lol

[@hassanshaikh3056]

@Slick Rick The alternative is most of Europe, Canada, Australia or New Zealand

[@vitorcardoso7477]

@@hassanshaikh3056 Those countries also have property tax and can, and will, sell your own house off if you don't pay them. Very few countries actually respect the right to own property.

[@hassanshaikh3056]

@@vitorcardoso7477 My bad, forgot about the absolute travesty that is property tax. Really shitty imo.

[@KenJohnsonMusic]

This happened to my mom, but I was/am so done with Detroit, I simply moved her out of the state. In theory you could make a lot of money buy and renovating home in Detroit, but property crime there is so bad, that as you are fixing the place, the criminals are taking everything and if you move in and renovate and get it done, mostly the neighborhoods are so disgusting, what do you have? A nice house surrounded by urban blight. Nope. You can have the Motor City.

[@1p4142136]

Humans exploiting humans, in Ancient Greece the people would have hanged the king. Future Historians will refer to this era as The Dark Ages.

[@thefakecanadian5117]

Yeah nobody got screwed over in Ancient Greece or the actual dark ages.

[@MsDragonbal776]

@@thefakecanadian5117 they did, but they responded accordingly

[@TheXarus]

@@MsDragonbal776 Lol are you serious?! Learn some history gal, look up what Rome did in Gaul.... So many people throughout history were oppressed and never rose up. You just hear about the ones that do.

[@MsDragonbal776]

@@TheXarus Gaul was actually a major pain in the ass for Rome. The people would rebel a the time. They were just never able to win

[@TheXarus]

@@MsDragonbal776 I do agree but I'll say that in general I feel like the average individual wasn't making that decision it was bold leaders. I apologise for how I came across I've had a horrible day. Thank you for being polite :)

[@philipbuckley759]

I could never see making money on the misery, of others....

[@garrett5908]

What do you do Philip? Almost everything done relies on someone else's misery to make money. I bet no matter what you do i can find someone in misery to help provide your product/service.

[@vincenzomerchant-cook8287]

That's called capitalism. To make money you must get it from someone else whether they are buying something from you whether a product service or your work. To make money you must take money from someone else. Meaning In some cases misery for others. That's just how it is.

[@garrett5908]

@@vincenzomerchant-cook8287 It's not capitalism. It's called an economy. All tender based economies do this not just capitalism based systems.

[@garrett5908]

@DeusWrath Eternus that's because your in misery doing your job. No offense.

[@garrett5908]

@DeusWrath Eternus well I'm happy for you man. However the dishes you wash are likely made by someone in China going through misery. Or some of the servers that serve the food are going through misery dealing with customers. Possibly the cashier hates their job that takes their money. See what I'm saying?

[@littlebit6211]

I don't like his man bun

[@lulabloom4636]

lady bun lol

[@q-bert6454]

Little Bit It’s called a “douche knot” that guy looks like a real douche.

[@littlebit6211]

At the expense of others pain and suffering. I prefer someone who has put forth the effort to present themselves in a professional manner. A nice styled haircut/longer hair, great. No, not because he made money, but because of the way he makes his money. I forget what the Law calls it. The Nazis stole people's property and their lives. I don't like his man bun because it is not a professional way to present yourself to the public.

[@dickcarpenter8947]

@Taylor N he's made money on other peoples misery.

[@tomdecuca3627]

This is just awful! I don't know how someone could profit off of people who have been swindled already! It's almost like dealing with organized crime. Actually that's what it is!!

[@drivethrupoet]

This makes my blood boil. I live in a middle class neighborhood in an area that's doing really well compared to the rest of the US. But slowly all the homes are being purchased by investors from New York and Cali. The problem is that they don't care how the property is maintained. Not all renters are bad, but they aren't the ones paying the HOA dues and probably don't even realize there are guidelines. So the yards are no longer kept, there are too many vehicles parked in the street and exterior needing paint, etc. Plus, if too many properties become rentals (non-primary residences) eventually new buyers in the neighborhood won't be able to get FHA loans. Altogether they're killing our property values. None of these investors give a f**k about anyone and never let them fool you otherwise.

[@themassagemasters]

The Game: (DONT HATE THE PLAYERS) 1*)Put lead in the water 2*)Take away jobs for the under skilled and the undereducated 3*)Under fund schools 5k-12 Grade 4*)Bring in crooked politicians to open the door for the vultures that have the chips to play and know the game well

[@illumiNOTme326]

DemoKKKrats

[@teej783]

They didn't put "lead" in the water. They used the money set aside to maintain the infrastructure on creating pension plans for themselves. They created no-show jobs for political cronies and taxed and regulated businesses until they left. They didn't underfund the schools, they just started letting the criminals and thugs have priority over education. They were always corrupt as in Socialist Democrats. Those people, as sad as it may seem, voted for the life they got. How much tax money did Obama give his Muslim brothers again? $34 Billion. That could have fixed up 34 Democrat run cities as far as infrastructure goes. Responsible and productive people were punished over and over with taxes and regulations so they left. It was called "White Flight" and blamed on racism even though it was the racists that put those policies in effect. If you stuff ballot boxes just because the politicians are black then you deserve what you get. Detroit used to be the Industrial Center of the entire world and now look at it.

[@iii-ei5cv]

I think you have things turned around: Woman buys home in a distressed area, and: 1) The government is taxing her at 10 times what she paid for the home. Naturally, although otherwise apparently a good citizen, she falls behind on her taxes 2) For her tax money, the government gives her water contaminated with lead 3) Her tax money likewise isn't used to provide anyone jobs (or anyone that could financially help her). 4) Nor is her tax money used the properly fund schools 5) Eventually, when the woman has built up enough debt, the government swoops in and steals her home from her, to sell to some other sucker 6) This other sucker apparently imagines that the woman would want to stay in her home that she owned and pay rent to them. Obviously, she has zero reason to do that, so she packs her bags, noting that she doesn't think she'll be buying property in the future. Meanwhile, the new landlords are left with an empty dwelling, because the city government has screwed the former occupant out of their home. The only one who wins here is the city government

[@supremeleaderharryballs8104]

@@iii-ei5cv she didnt pay taxes though lmao

[@JaredCzaia]

The woman at the end learned the lesson - She no longer wants to own property in Detroit. Good for her. It's not just a piece of land with a building on it, it's a contract with the municipality that you'll pay whatever taxes they charge. If the municipality gets desperate for money, they're likely to try any dirty underhanded way to get it. Whether it's refusing to pay out pensions or refusing to accurately assess property values, they'll try to get that money somehow. You have to go into homeownership with eyes wide open - and in a place like Detriot that's run by wolves, you have to be a bit of a wolf yourself if you want to own property.

[@joeblack1126]

And those wolves are black wolves Detroit went bankrupt because the city was run by currupt officials after the whites moved out.

[@ouivalerie]

Artur Markowski The want genocide because they tend to time loop, killing everyone and reincarnation brings them back to reset and start over.... If they cared we wouldn't be eating GMO and have gardens of eden all over the place.....

[@laha6667]

Train Magic her house being over assessed and her ill(dying)mother's expenses

[@dknowles60]

even at a over assess price of 35k it would have only costed her 1600 dollars per year.

[@dknowles60]

you mean dems

[@kevinberes2037]

So she bought the home for $3,500 and even being assessed at 10X the value is only $35K which includes the value of the land. Since she bought it 2009 she has only paid $1000 in taxes. I pay that amount every 6 months on a house that size. She is 8 years behind on her taxes. Of course the city is going to auction it off to pay off her unpaid taxes.

[@lshepherd4295]

Yeah, I honestly don't know why we're supposed to feel sorry for her? She got the house almost for free, went almost a decade without paying very meager taxes, and she never contested the city's assessment. So... what did she think would happen? Are we supposed to expect a lot less out of her? Why?

[@imperi42]

But you are speaking from a position of privilege, as a black woman, nobody can expect her to pay $1000 in taxes /s

[@devladjackson116]

I think she failed to properly communicate with her accountant/tax advisor. Simple tax places like H and R block would have helped her plan. Sigh. I feel some folks aren't ready for the real world.

[@lshepherd4295]

That's dangerously racist. I am not privileged at all, and for you to say that because she's a black woman she can't figure this out or get an escrow account is offensive. If she only owes $1000 a year, that is less than the lowest property tax in the country, which is in Alabama. She had zero excuse for not keeping up with property taxes. Why would she be exempt from them? We all save our money ad pay them, we all make sure we have an escrow account to put money in monthly so our taxes are paid. She can't do that? I mean, $1000 a year is like $80 a month. Surely she could figure out that paying this is far less than having to pay rent?

[@imperi42]

I wrote /s which denotes sarcasm

[@tthreepo4291]

If they have violated the state constitution by over taxing it seems to be a pretty clear line to a class action lawsuit against the city and county.

[@dknowles60]

now lets see. the city county state of michigan and courts are Dem run. the Law suit will not get very far

[@phantom-xb6wv]

happy families in the 1960s once lived in these houses. Remember that.

[@108nighthawk]

And? Those families could not afford them.

[@thankyounext365]

Ion know what 60’s your talking about but the 1960’s was the farthest from happy.

[@mikehunt5859]

@@phantom-xb6wv war does not bring justice or sanity. You sound really depressed and jaded. You can go for a walk and talk face to face with someone else. No one is stopping you I hope.

[@mikehunt5859]

@@phantom-xb6wv every kid is not depressed

[@mikehunt5859]

@@phantom-xb6wv I doubt you are old enough to remember the 60's if you think they were so great. The Vietnam war November 1st, 1955- Apirl 30th, 1975. Talk to some Vietnam vets about how great it made this country or their lives.

[@mel2k10rus]

You don't own anything in this country period. It can be taken away from you at any moment the government wants to.

[@ijg8343]

Lmao most people live like that isn't the case. I personally lost 2 homes and will never buy in America again..I'm purchasing property outside of the country where once you own,its yours for life and your children no matter what...this american dream bullshit is all smoke to keep everyone slaved in a 9 to 5 to keep the $$$ flowing.

[@businesslp3027]

Melvin D. Frederick That’sssss right! I realized that in law school. ⚖️

[@lampliterinn6005]

@@businesslp3027 in the prisons law program*

[@rberding]

The USA is NOT a country to live in or even worth a visit.A huge mafia government.

[@CutHardstylez]

just like in communist china

[@Moj0j0]

When are we going to wake up as a society and say no more?? Everyday more and more is being taken away from us.

[@donaldronk1378]

This will never happen as long as politicians promise people the moon and give them shit in return.

[@imarvg8285]

We really can't, as long as social media, and celebreties keep the people and youth zombified...and delusional about "making it big"..it well never end.

[@carolwhitworth1734]

Yes,500 for a year after that he's going to raise the rent and she would be moved out so that he can renovate..And get some one to pay more.. how do I know, something similar happen to me and now I am homeless.

[@ybbetter7712]

L

[@theEternaleye-t5y]

@Out Of Context "If your homeless, just buy a house."

[@theEternaleye-t5y]

@Out Of Context The Only clown here is the person that believes just because a person has the ability to do something that it means its morally decent as a Human to do so.

[@theEternaleye-t5y]

​@Out Of Context Always with the the Insults, so defensive. And yes you did say it was Morally acceptable, not explicitly but through your malice towards the User who got removed from there own house thanks to similar practices, You've made your opinion very clear on the matter.

[@BuhnanaFone]

its not the home owner or the investors fault. Its the governments fault for making it so hard on existing home owners and so easy for investors

[@joshjosh6842]

How can this lady owe 20 grand and taxes but the city can sell it for 500 bucks and then this guy can charge them 500 bucks a month to rent it from him

[@ralphbernhard1757]

Josh Josh ' murica

[@straggler1009]

Fucked up city workers

[@NatashaEstrada]

Because it's better to have the property turn over to an owner that will start paying taxes. If they let you stay in your home without paying taxes then no one would ever pay taxes. It's really that simple. The new owner will pay the property taxes, pay income tax on the tax revenue, hire workers to maintain the properties etc.

[@user-ne2bb5nh7t]

Everyone saying "she made 24K a year, why couldn't she pay her taxes!?" Well...she had kids, and a mother to look after, and for a family of 4, the poverty line is $25K. It's clear that this lady wasn't spending her money on frivolous things. She had a family to take care of on a bare-bones budget. If some of ya'll actually watch the video, you'll see how the county and city purposefully have over-evaluated the property values to get themselves out of debt. If her home had been appraised correctly, I'm sure she would have been able to afford the taxes. This isn't an issue of someone who thought they were above the law, but rather someone who was trying their hardest to do what they needed in an unbalanced system.

[@NatashaEstrada]

But she didn't have to pay rent which most people living on the poverty line have to do. By not paying her taxes she is now putting herself into the situation of having to pay market rates for rent. She had 10 years to figure out the tax situation. She purchased in 2009. At some point, the clock just runs out.

[@user-ne2bb5nh7t]

@@NatashaEstrada You still have to pay home owners insurance, repairs, renovations, (such as the added toilet bathroom), etc. There was nothing to "figure out", because the taxes were rising every year. Once you got behind, you were behind with no way out. Fact of the matter is, the city is helping to push people out of their own homes through outrageous taxes because the city can't balance its budget.

[@agentorange20]

K no, she didn’t pay her taxes and the govt, sized and foreclosed on it just like every other property including businesses.

[@agentorange20]

K that is part of it but if you’re at the poverty line with 4 kids or not you don’t guy buying property. She chose poorly.

[@dknowles60]

i made it very well on 24k per year for a long time. and had 2 kids. paying off a 70k house and doing lots of other things

[@jayr1404]

This is a legal business between the Gov't and business owners, an old practice! where rich becomes richer and poor becomes poorer.

[@Buz-Lunch-Punx]

You're such an idiot. If someone buys a house for $10k then they should pay their property taxes. It's not rocket science.

[@chinadashauthority65]

Todd Abbot: The example they found was just stupid, this Judy Kelley. How can someone who makes over $2,000 a month loose a $3,000 house to taxes, even if they are taxing at 5x what the house is worth, which they are not? Her taxes could not be that high. Even if they assessed her house to be worth $25,000, she would still be paying only $600 a year or $50 a month, as Wayne County taxes at 2.35%. That is a very high rate at bout 2.5x national rates, but still she likely spend more on her cell phone than that each month. She owed so much because she likely just did not pay it until they threatened to take her house and then she just paid the minimum because the house was not worth it. If she was paying $600 a year and was 3 years behind, with interest she likely owed over $2,000, but they likely said if she paid the $600 for this year they would be fine, but the interest on the rest kept growing and growing for years. She likely kept doing this and now owes $21,000 and the house is just not worth that much. What makes this even worse is she paid for the house up front. She had no house payment. I'm just guessing, but I doubt she had insurance on the house either. But that must the the case for most of these because your insurance and taxes are escrowed into a mortgage by law. I live in Michigan too. I also work at home do to health issues and make far less than $2,000 month, but I still make my $585 mortgage payment every month. If I owned the house my taxes and insurance would be about $180 a month and my house is worth FAR more than $3,000 dollars. I am guessing most of the foreclosures are people unemployed or seniors on fixed income that are loosing their homes, but for some reason they interviewed this lady. I'm guessing she will likely borrow $3000 from her retirement and go buy another $3000 home and start the same cycle over, but now she does not owe $21,000 in taxes. And obviously there are still plenty of homes out there for cheap as her house sold for less than she bought it for. Likely they assessed the value of the house at $15,000 and her taxes were only $350 a year. How could someone making over $2,000 a month not be able to pay $30 a month. Sorry this was a horrible report.

[@prun8893]

Do you vote for democrats?

[@Buz-Lunch-Punx]

@@chinadashauthority65 The report is total dogshit full of lies, just like everything else the media put out This story is Communist propaganda

[@silfernandez3048]

@@Buz-Lunch-Punx Gangster

[@ayawoke9906]

This is all planned in a higher level, I’m 100% convinced.

[@blndr1000]

Of course the city wants to kick all the poor people out and want the rich move in... sad!!

[@DannyCasino]

Of course homie the rich get richer and poor argue over scraps....sad...

[@tommytodatnguyen1413]

Ayawoke , the government owns your home; you are leasing it.

[@mateorc2]

​@Ramza The Heretic Lol wut? Keep on drinking that trickle down kool-aid.

[@MrYaxalot]

@@blndr1000 its obvious u have no idea what your talking about and have never been to Detroit this is what happens when dems control a city

[@damienassenat1353]

Property tax should be illegal

[@aceous99]

cut corruption, hang the thieves, lower taxes.

[@meow8384]

This is wrong on so many levels

[@jaelynn7575]

How else does a state pay for schools, roads, police, fire, ambulance, etc?

[@sgreen4865]

@@jaelynn7575 how did those things get done before property tax ? At one time there was no property tax or income tax

[@NatashaEstrada]

@Carl Lewenski AND you had to build your own roads, dig your own wells, there were no public libraries because you probably didn't know how to read and at some point, you died of dysentery because you didn't have any trash collection or sewage handling system.

[@mayen67]

Property tax is rip off, dont the dam government get enough with income and council tax?

[@northernsmith]

Typically bond measures get funded by increasing property taxes. So that feel good let’s build a new school or fire station gets funded by home owners. Time to start thinking before voting.

[@gemneyebable]

mayen67 PAYROLL TAX IS THE BIGGEST SCAM!!!

[@AsianGlow]

$212/mo is pocket change for a 4 bed 2 bath house and an acre of land.

[@juice8284]

Nope, the rich have a disease,

[@coldwind1791]

Ben W No shit.

[@albertawheat6832]

A wise man once said " when a person is born, he gets a ticket to the freak show. But when a person is born in the United States of America...You get a front row seat." ~ George Carlin ~

[@daddydiesel7177]

United States is one of the best countries in the world to live in so you’d be lucky

[@SC-RGX7]

@@daddydiesel7177 say that again please

[@SC-RGX7]

No, you are actually performer in the freak show if you are born in the US

So these people prey on occupied homes to make money. It's always people becoming rich on the back of the poor. Things have not changed at all. THE GREAT HAND OVER.

[@108nighthawk]

You mean buying the houses from people who were never able to afford them? You are not entitled to a house.

[@0doublezero0]

Blame the government for assessing their taxes too high for the people to afford them not the people who buy the liens.

[@matthewdersam4748]

Welcome to the free market . Enjoy your stay !

[@CatobisGaming]

Matthew Dersam what do you mean. This entire issue is the governments fault!

[@SilverMe2004]

its called the redistribution of wealth

[@userunknownx]

Someone needs to tell these people they can request a reassessment of property value. Make sure they file for all tax credits. I bought a house that was involved a mortgage scam and it had an inflated value. I had it reassessed and taxes on it dropped by a 1200.00. Property values in Detroit are in the toilet and the taxes should reflect that. If your taxes say your house is worth WAY more than it is. Ask for a reassessment, and they have to comply. In some cases it will even buy time to stop foreclosure. They need a State Representative that gives a sh*t to step in and set up an office to help.

[@freeinaz2aadvocate236]

This is Detroit and Wayne Co. They don't give a $hit about the people. Never have, never will! Wasted many years of my life there and glad I left. If people were smart, when they left their tax foreclosed home it would need $100,000 in water, smoke, and other damage repairs. Just saying. Hell Detroit can't solve 80% of their murders, pretty sure they couldn't find/prove vandalism. 🤬🤪

[@Snipes20]

Diane Brady Yup! Blame it on the immigrants! They’re stealing your homes? You have to me kidding me.. did you just not watch the video? The city/county is the problem but here you are pointing your racist, ignorant, stupid finger at immigrants!

[@Aaron565]

@@freeinaz2aadvocate236 if you cant catch murderers its time to change who you're murdering. These workers have to live near the neighborhoods they operate in.

[@Snipes20]

Aaron565 Your comment really just showed me how much knowledge you lack when it comes to religion and history. So for my wellbeing and my self love. I’m not gonna stoop down to your level of stupidity and try to argue with you I’m just not gonna do it. Have a good day!

[@Vegas702EsLV]

Thank You!! Corrupt ass Detroit. Sounds like some shit Hitlery Clinton Pulled on some retired folks real estate scam. Evil Woman.

[@jasonsmith8302]

I wish I was wealthy so I could help these people. Sad world😢

[@glensmalll]

Jason Smith I know I feel the same way, it is very heart breaking

[@anthonydooley3616]

Helping people can make you wealthy.

[@marblox9300]

If you were wealthy you would be blowing money on expensive cars maybe jets like Kobe.

[@azmanmdsalleh2009]

Nice one

[@erichardric4795]

After all the middle and low income families lose their homes and move away, who is Detroit going to get to rent these homes?

[@ts121084]

Perhaps the suburban-dwelling descendants of the people who were forced to leave them decades ago...

[@forlornvaalan7630]

@@ts121084 Nobody forced them to be a bunch of cowards. They had rifles and the police back then on their side. The entire Upper Midwest has this problem.

[@bkelsey6692]

People who can pay the very very small amount of property taxes so they dont lose their property

[@forlornvaalan7630]

@@bkelsey6692 Thats...just the most asinine post on youtube. Its like you watched the video and decided to shill for these "people".

[@jamesedwards3923]

The housing market is becoming more irrational. I searched for what I could mostly pay out of cash. Without going broke. Within my city limits. They want $150,000 for a studio. Yet further in the less populated areas of my state. That same price could get you at the bare minimal: A one or two bedroom house. Decent yard. Better air quality.

[@gr8gmblr]

I'm in this city right now and I see it. The only ones profiting are the city politicians.

[@tylertoon2]

Are you blind? They literally just interviewed a man in a mansion who was making money out of this system, lots of it and there are others. Why was the bidding so high on those homes? People are making a killing off of exploiting people and justifying it by blaming each other when the fault is the whole rotten system.

[@grin64]

gr8gmblr next election drive this home to everyone around. Get some independent or Republicans in there.

[@mathewhill5556]

tylertoon2 Is it also his fault he paid his property taxes? I guess.

[@AwkwardYet]

And they still will, people havent learned from Kilpatrick

[@bakalitetrick968]

Not even the city government is profiting , but it is the individual politician who gains. He gains like an entrepreneur. But the politician's profit is not like the investor's profit. The investor gentlemen in this video are cool and clear: "Youre the ones who sold an occupied home."

[@topflight6027]

Its crazy to say but I live in Phoenix, and most new people that I have met usually tell me they moved from Detroit just recently, so this explains everything now.

[@TheCHEETOAZ]

TOPFLIGHT 602 I live in chandler we got a lot of new people from all over the midwest

[@topflight6027]

@@TheCHEETOAZ yea but Chandler isnt cheap to live at along with Mesa as well, but that's just my opinion. All I'm saying is that 10yrs ago here in Phoenix the majority race used to be mainly Hispanic and white, and now its African American that seems to be matching up with the Hispanic race.

[@DIVISIONINCISION]

That's a weird move. If you live in Michigan, why would you move to Arizona? That doesn't make sense.

[@DIVISIONINCISION]

@@topflight6027 That's not true. The whole Southwest is predominately Hispanic. California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas. Blacks aren't a majority population until you get to Louisiana and further East and South. I lived in Phoenix (Gilbert), Hispanics dominated that area. Blacks are a minority in Arizona.

[@theunknown3537]

@@topflight6027 hispanics come in all colors is NOT a race😆

[@Debonair73]

I feel like it's some holes in this report. The women bought the house for 3,900. No where in their story did they say what the tax assessment on the house was they just use all these percentages. They said 10 times what she paid for it. Detroit got some high property taxes it's like 70.79 per $1000 of value. So the city value her house at $39,000. She would have to pay like $2761 in property tax a year. That's about $230 a month in taxes alone. Unless rent is low as hell in Detroit I don't see how this lady could afford to rent somewhere else if she couldn't pay the $230 a month in taxes to keep her house. I know she spent money making improvements on the house but she should have been able to keep her house if she can afford to pay rent somewhere else in my opinion.

[@22BStan]

Nah its only half the accessed value. Her taxes were far less the $230 a month. She just didn't pay them.

[@dankadybong7948]

Debonair73 . TAXES WUZ INVENTED BY DA WHYTE MANG. DA IRS SHOULD PAY BLACKS REPARASHUNZ!

[@HonestOtter]

Not to mention that she could have challenged that assessment using the purchase value. It's a very straight forward process in Illinois and I'd assume the same elsewhere.

[@rightonmack7035]

Debonair73 .amen someone who sees past the bullshit reported sroey.

[@RandomRandomnessKCMO]

+Dankady Bong idiot .....

[@DD-ih7wn]

This rigged system of exploitation targeting a certain demographic SICKENS me. How does that developer and his son sleep at nite. Anything can be justified nowadays. That lady OWNED her own home and they taxed her out of it. DISGRACEFUL!!

[@dcg590]

Should’ve paid her taxes

[@Facebook-sb3eo]

They heartless 💔 there wealthy an taking this ladies home 🏡 2 bedroom home a little shack an him an his son live in a beautiful place well off they are some evil 😈 individuals 🇪🇺 father an son .

[@Facebook-sb3eo]

​@@dcg590 It was over taxes an she low income shouldn't even have to pay or taxes lower .

[@DelbertStinkfester]

I'm pretty empathetic towards these home owners but they vote the people who are causing the problem back into office over and over again....It's just mind boggling to me.

[@ziqi92]

I'm not convinced they voted at all. When you're poor and work a job with a rigid hourly schedule, when on an average Tuesday would you have the time to go to the ballot box? That's not even beginning to take voter disenfranchisement into account.

[@coolman5995]

ziqi92 99% of Detroit it unemployed and don’t have any sort of job

[@u.b.5366]

For a european it sure sounds like elections are rigged for wealthier people who can just go vote. It's mindboggling to vote on a TUESDAY. Who came up with that idea and why? In Germany you vote on a sunday, you dont have to register beforehand. You get mail couple weeks before, you wake up at 9am, heave your ass to the next school where it's normally done and vote. Tuesday... smh

[@evegreenification]

@@u.b.5366 Well, we exported all our Democracy and now there's none left. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@Ukrainianification]

Damn $3k houses. Shit I might just buy one live there for three years only paying utilities and when it’s sold from underneath me still be on top

[@johnsmith-pk8bq]

Yeah but for 3K in detroit, you might as well be living in Donetsk

[@benjaminlee4463]

And then do it all over again better off!

[@3Q2HFNILQHF]

Smart man.

[@aleahc1379]

Thats really not a good idea. Why do you think the home was only 3k? The prices arent based off of some foreclosure equation, there usually shit houses. Judy had to replace her bathroom and all the piping in her house. I mean I guess if you do construction or can afford it and just want a cheap house, its a pretty good idea but for a lot of people I dont think its a good ideam

[@3Q2HFNILQHF]

@@aleahc1379 foreclosures go for whatever the market decides. If people want to buy a $30k house for only $3k, they can and do. The bank will take whatever it can get and stick the previous owner with the rest of the bill. They can't lose. You just have to go around and look at some foreclosed houses to see, they're not all shit holes. They're just houses that people couldn't afford to make payments on. Any issues with the condition of the house will be directly related to that. If they can't even make payments, how could they fix/maintain it?

[@JohntechFL]

Rich getting richer, poor getting poorer.

[@insanecomedion1223]

Story old as time. Is a shame.

[@jasminecrack6667]

What's new lol

[@moonchild8733]

Agreed.

[@jeremiahsheppard7818]

Selling peoples Homes to the monopoly guys in new york and califonia

[@armanivitale4384]

We need change fast

[@ionly6805]

Damn he has black women working for him to ease his conscience 🤣🤣🤣 How much is your soul worth

[@prosperitythegod8287]

@@remboh sick individuals

[@ionly6805]

@@remboh I live in the #1 city in America... I would NEVER work for white people leaching off blacks.... Some of us blacks aren't for sale

[@ZMonsta88]

@@ionly6805 they don't understand they logic...i wouldn't waste my breath

[@David53D]

What racist jive are you talking? Would you prefer he employ only white people?

[@tkokflux6322]

@@ionly6805 bringing race in your arguments is really great aint it and not only black people are being lynched whites are too mainly people who are in poverty and bringing racism as an argument just makes me sick. can i ask you something what do you think about current administration

[@Preacher_.]

I just love how during the housing bubble American taxpayers paid off the banks that made the predatory loans, essentially paying off the home loan'... Whilst keeping the debt the homeowners owed intact and in full... With Interest... Hearing this just adds salt to the wound...

[@kichaa13]

@Van Damage bailouts started with bush.

[@Cannibal713]

God damn city officials are trying to squeeze every cent they can out of these people. They should be trying to encourage urban renual not taxing the shit out of these folk.

[@jodysmith7934]

Cannibal713 I completely agree!!!!

[@knocternal51]

gentrification at it highest level can you say land grab!!!

[@benjamintorres9211]

Fila Kri you guys act like gentrification is a bad thing lmao

[@nbddominance9328]

They doing it in my neighborhood now

[@knocternal51]

@Labyrinth9000 don't worry the last will be first and the first will be last coming soon to all the neighborhoods near you

[@Marchusv]

This isn't gentrification, this is just bottom feeding. These people have no intention of renovating.

[@remylebeau5212]

@@benjamintorres9211 How is it not?

[@Mockduck2020]

For those who missed it, they assessed her house at 10 times what she paid for it and then put up to 18% interest in top of your over assessed tax bill. Then people that don’t even live there are buying the houses from under them over the Internet who were able to buy the house for nearly the same amount she paid for it. Nice way to build a community 😡

[@MrSupernova111]

Let's be honest, $3k isn't a lot of money. There are plenty of people out there who could easily afford to purchase these homes and aren't wealthy themselves. However, this is extortion in my opinion. The government itself is extorting its citizens. People should be up in arms about this kind of tyranny!

[@onitahutchins]

I lost my home for $2700 I kept going downtown to the Wayne county trying to pay to get my home before it went into auction for a Whole month and they kept spinning me even Eric Sebree and this was before they put it on the auction list they could have took my money then and I would be still in my home to this day but instead they put me and my family out in the streets to this day I'm still struggling

[@Mockduck2020]

@@onitahutchins I’m so sorry!

[@Bob-fz7pd]

3k a year in taxes on a 4k home? Time to sharpen the pitchforks. Blonde bun failed to figure the $300 a month in taxes he pays from the $500 rent he collects.

[@Alkuf100]

Blonde bun will get his money worth back in 2 years... thats a great investition btw

[@Bob-fz7pd]

@dandanthetaximan 1) You cant fight city hall. 2) City tax assessors declare "Let There be Pensions" and it was so. You cant thwart a De Troit pol with a law suit. You need pitchforks.

[@FaithandNova]

If property taxes is 3k a year that's $250 a month. That's not impossible to put up monthly so you don't try to cover the 3k at once.

[@leifseed]

It's $150

[@MrAdoh2010]

Blonde bun has the millions to fight back on the unconstitutionality of overtaxing homes if another recession hits. America always takes care of the rich

[@boostmobileee699]

If the house mine and the property is never mine really then if i have to leave im taking down my home

[@108nighthawk]

It was likely the bank's home.

[@malloryknox5072]

@@108nighthawk Did you watch the video? They're not talking about people that haven't paid off their mortgage, they're losing their homes bc of high property taxes.

[@108nighthawk]

@@malloryknox5072 I did watch the video, I am also not an idiot and I k ow most houses or properties in the USA are owned, not by the inhabitants, but the banks who let them stay there.

[@pimperish666]

Basically the city needs the money hence why they kept taxing up. No wonder they went bankrupt. And go figure they got to a budget surplus by over taxing property. Kind of like what CA has been doing with the state income tax, the gas tax, sales tax, and property taxes (and rumor is they wanna raise property taxes.) This is the problem with having big governments. They require too much money.

[@TechnicalsMatt]

Before you rush to call those buyers the "bad guy" Consider it's the city levying inflated taxes that pushed it to this point.

[@promontorium]

I want to feel really bad for the woman screwed over and losing her home. But she only paid $1,000 in taxes total. That's hardly a commitment. Sorry you couldn't have an entire house forever for $3,000. Also, a valuation at "10 times" would still only be $30,000. I just looked it up, and $1,000 was probably her yearly tax rate. So all she had to pay to keep owning the home was $1,000 a year. Maybe that's unfair for a house she got for $3,000 but Jesus Christ, you will NEVER get it that good anywhere else.She makes $24,000 a year, $1,000 is nothing. That's $83 a month. She could have kept the home if she just paid $83 a month.

[@tronable]

Yeah thats why they said it was valued at $30k. She obviously was spending her money on drugs instead of her taxes.

[@allisondoak9425]

That’s only one tax though right? What about income tax? Then you have the cost of food, services, health insurance, possibly automotive costs, upkeep, she’s got a kid, she was supporting an elderly dependent, etc. On top of that there’s probably penalties building up for not paying so the $83 now goes toward servicing that. Now you might say buying a house wasn’t smart, but she brought the house when she could afford the tax rate plus she’s not got a lot of money for financial advice. $83 is certainly not nothing, it would be nothing if that was all she had to spend on her needs and the needs of her family members but it’s not. I mean and if she was the only one maybe it’d be easier to say she’s made bad decisions but this is obviously something effecting a lot of people in those areas and even if you put it down to bad decisions or whatever it’s still pretty concerning that all these people can’t or won’t pay tax to their ultimate disadvantage so you gotta go into more detail and see why this is and it’s because that income is just not high enough with other factors considered.

[@adelatorremothelet]

At minute 3:00 they said that she bought her house in 2009 at 3,900 USD, by 2017 she had racked up 23,000 dollars in back taxes and fees. That is outrageous and ridiculous even if here home has a valuation of 40,000 USD.

[@rightonmack7035]

Allie Doak .shut up.with taxes her mortgage is 315 a month over 20 years.So she should go rent at 800? a month.smart.maybe she will afford that.

[@allisondoak9425]

right on mack when you come at me please at least attempt to be coherent

[@SpicyChickenSandwich420]

Refuse to pay the property taxes. Offer the city the right amount based on the actual value of the home. Band together with your neighbors and arm yourselves

[@ZMonsta88]

@shawn mendrek-likesalotofcreamincoffee well maybe an example needs too be set. We need to accept the fact that some of us are going to have to die to get the point across

[@marcusknoll9500]

I agree.....if those ppl stood up for themselves, and had guns, and said no, this is my house They send in law enforcement Someone gonna die That is a good woman, she work, that's her house, these gov bitches

[@SpicyChickenSandwich420]

@Barack Obama the property taxes need to be based on what the houses are actually worth. Detroit has some people paying 10 times the property taxes that they should be. If detroit is so desperate for money that they are kicking their own people out of their homes then maybe it's time to start over with new leadership

[@dknowles60]

@@ZMonsta88 that is how the Us was founded . some of us had to die but we spanke the british

[@dknowles60]

@@SpicyChickenSandwich420 ever hear of michigan law. you have the right to callange you prop tax. unless Mi law has change since i left Michigan Mi law says you are Tax at 50% of true value, that means a 30k house is tax at 15k. even at 84 mills the taxes on 15k wount be that much

[@lisabrickner6004]

God will avenge all the corruption and greed in this world very soon..

[@ShelbyAlayna]

this is heartbreaking... I just want to see my city win

[@Justwrestle129]

It is now 2019 I pray these families are okay

[@KingofgraceSARA]

Stfu

[@1258za]

@@KingofgraceSARA smfh

[@lokalkakan]

Property tax is outdated, it`s money you should tax through the income tax if it`s public revenue the county needs. The property tax just set people up to fail by an arbitrary evaluation of their property.

[@vickymc9695]

lokalkakan it would also mean that schools funding would be more equal if they were all funded by one income tax pot.

[@cookiesnruntz]

3k for a house? Even still 30k for a house? Damn man. Cheapest house in Toronto is like 500k

[@taariqblackwell5134]

These people bought their home but lost it to taxes so if you pay the taxes you get the house.

[@taariqblackwell5134]

snooker man the lowest is about a 1000.

[@coolspot18]

Good luck buying a house in Toronto for $500,00 - more like $850,000 to $1M+.

[@coolspot18]

@@Greylobster House was only $3,500, but taxes were $3,500 annual. Even then it's a bargain, but who knows, she could be getting paid minimum wage...

[@derosarocks9477]

current exchange rate: 1 canadian dollar = 75 cents U.S.

[@dragonstooth4223]

Wow this is disgusting. In my country your home can't be touched, even in bankruptcy. If the bank wanted you out it's a huge process for them. And in america ... they can just give away ppls homes from under them. Disgusting

[@eugenebrown6379]

It's not the bank, it's the county.

[@albertawheat6832]

@@eugenebrown6379 Mmmm no...It's the bank and the State in which you live.

[@MN12warbird]

Its the flaw of logic that laws solve all problems

[@dknowles60]

wrong, Ch 13 can help.

[@KS-sk7jr]

This breaks my heart :( I wish I could buy them all and give them back to these families

[@Earthstarsky]

wow vice, you couldn't give a meager 3k to help out the lady who was the main character in your story? did you even give her anything for this story?

[@promontorium]

The reporter probably spent more on her outfit and hair. Between her and High Top I don't know how much more hipster Vice can get.

[@NatashaEstrada]

They probably bought her a nicer home at the Auction for $1500

[@ineedhoez]

That is not vice's job. Just like the photographer doesnt save the gazelle.

[@max19116]

Vice please help me understand because I really want to be sympathetic. I looked up the tax on 40k Detroit Home. It’s 1290/yr. slightly over 100 a month. Why didn’t she just pay her taxes? Even if she disagreed with them we are not talking big money. I pay nearly $1,000 a month for my taxes. If I stopped paying them the county should also seize my house. Also, why didn’t she appeal her assessment. Instead of helping people buy back their homes why doesn’t that charity instead hire attorneys to file assessment appeals for everyone and reduce the tax burden that way? I just want to understand why the story makes out the unpaying person as a victim instead of a criminal?

[@whiskeybent3780]

lol you are being too logical for Vice

[@josephdurham2136]

max19116 Because it is a cumulative effect. We also have a city tax that most Americans do not pay plus the State tax that come directly out of your check. Plus our Energy bills are NOTORIOUS for not actually checking peoples meters but doing "estimates" on entire neighborhoods plus we have some of the country's highest state tax and the highest car insurance rates in the country because of a law that says EVERYONE must have full coverage auto insurance and on top of that "RedLining" witch means we pay a city tax on our auto insurance.

[@Harry-hyl]

michigan has the highest property taxes of any state in the US, they're being overcharged. It's also cumulative, as Joseph Durham was saying. 100 bucks out of her monthly take-home pay (single, 1 dependent, 24K/yr) is about $1667, so it's ~6% of her income in that alone. It's just one problem of many, requires a detailed analysis to really convince someone though.

[@rightonmack7035]

Joseph Durham so you couldnt pay a 320 mortgage with taxes?for real?

[@dknowles60]

@@josephdurham2136 do not tell me that bs on energy bill's. i use to live in mi. i dont like your bull crap. hint nat gas at .40 cents per cubic foot. your worest gas bill wount be over 100 per month. dte. .12cent per kwh. if you use a 1000 killwatts that would cost you 120 dollars per month. there is nothing stoping you from reading your own meters. at least dte can win in the winter. the same thing can not be said about the TVA great post on the rest

[@dianealbrecht496]

Over assessing a house 10× is illegal. Where the f**k is the Attorney General for that godforsaken state?

[@ArtificialGamingIntelligence]

Lmao 3k for a house, that wouldn't even cover the price of the front door around here.

[@pinkfreud62]

But really, who would want to live in a $3K house? There's a reason why it's only 3K. Just one step from being just about unlivable. About 75% of homes in central Detroit need condemned & bulldozed.

[@danielstump3204]

Well, YOU SHOULD MOVE TO DETROIT!

[@danielj.g.1328]

@@pinkfreud62 The 3K is based on the market, not the actual price of the property. smh

[@itslivemeow1936]

@@pinkfreud62 you can pay half a million dollars for a lot and park a tent on it around here.

[@hardcandy7112]

Jacksonville , florida 5k tan lien home and warm all year and also low property tax , lower then Texas that dry out backyard of dirt and rock .

[@Dev-zd3rx]

"Do you make money off this" While riding in an Audi lol

[@lilgodzillr]

What's so funny? A used Audi can be picked up for the same price as a Toyota.

[@EzacK05]

@@lilgodzillr This is true. Used Audi's and Mercedes are cheap because the repair costs cripple you. It's kinda like the same thing here. Buy a cheap house but the property taxes cripple you. Except you knew what you were getting into when you bought the Audi.

[@DIVISIONINCISION]

An Audi is a VW. You can basically get the same features in both. Not expensive at all.

[@juangonzalez4667]

Cheap ass car expensive parts

[@tadiafoster4460]

This is outrageous! Complete betrayal- turning home owners into renters. Pure wickedness

[@Grassyknolldallas]

Property taxes are a complete joke. So income and sales taxes aren’t enough. The people need to get petitions going in states and ban all property tax.

[@Marinexize]

So that lady bought a house for less then 4000 and she couldn't pay the property tax??? I wish i had that problem. Hell i pay almost 6000 a year on property tax.

[@uslee19]

If she bought the house for only 3K, her mortgage must be nothing, which means her real mortgage are taxes on it. At 2K/ month income, she can afford it. They allow you to break up the taxes to monthly installments. Too much victim crap? We are not being told the whole story.

[@t100base]

L they're chargeing her tax based on a value ten times higher than she paid for the house

[@plebiansociety]

their charging her a value that is worth if they tore her house down and sold the bricks alone.

[@t100base]

obviously you guys don't understand how property taxes work in detroit. but whites know it all, so what you gonna do..

[@dekustark]

I'm guessing you make more than 24k a year then. Are you bragging about how much $$ you make while putting someone down for being poor? Hahaha are you compensating for something?

[@StandedInUtah]

Judy was expected to pay less than 2,500 per year. In fact, she was likely only supposed to pay 200 a month in property taxes. That is nothing given she bought her house for $5,000. If she even had a house payment, which is unlikely, it would be tiny. If she had a mortgage her taxes would have been put in escrow by the bank. So her monthly housing cost would have been a tiny $200 to $250 per month.

[@promontorium]

They are some of the highest in the nation. But even with her house valued at "10 times what she paid" that's still only about $30,000. So the taxes weren't much. More like $100 a month. And she only paid 1 year's worth out of 8.

[@cmpdas]

you're making too much sense. why are you thinking? we're supposed to feel sorry for her. maybe the government can start a program to help people that don't want to pay property taxes. we can fund it with taxes. oh wait...

[@e.g.5806]

i bought 2 houses in detroit. one in 2012 and one in 2015. the first was a HUD home for $6k. unoccupied, almost turnkey and in the southwest part of the city (considered one of the better areas) when i got a divorce, i gave that house to my wife.. the second i bought for $3,500. it was occupied and being sold by the owner. I paid another $1900 in back taxes and $575 in a delinquent water bill. it was off of 8 mile and gratiot-- a not so awesome, gang infested part of the city. I sold that house less than a year later for $14k. detroit is fucked up from the top down. yes, detroiters are generally some of the nicest, warmest and loving people i have ever met, but the politicians and the general "powers that be" that have that city and it's residents in a stranglehold. detroit is not "coming back" nor is it "better than it used to be"-- detroit is, well frankly, detroit. it will never change.

[@zeusvalentine3638]

but you could have ownership for relatively little money. do you consider yourself lucky at all to live in a city like that? I come from Canada where ownership of a house is a million dollars in the top cities. Not for a mansion, but for a home like the ones in this video. people make a 100k a year are dirt poor paying a million dollar mortgage and 7k in property taxes. I wonder who has it better? Many of us are jealous at the the ease on which to buy a home in detroit. even with paying the property taxes. do you find that those who make 100k a year live like kings? or are those kinds of jobs hard to find?

[@HB_Doraemon_Multitoons]

corrupt politicians ruined the city

[@DanielleWashington1080]

Thank you for saying that. I keep telling people the only part of Detroit that's "come back" is downtown, which is not where majority of it's working class citizens live.

[@trinab9587]

Erik Garant hey sir, I think I know you. Was the 2nd home on Rossini?

[@dknowles60]

ditto that I use to live im Mi from 1960 to 1996. the problem is Detroit has been 100% dem run since 1961i Place most of the Blame on frank kelly, He was very mean and nasty to DTe one of the Best power companys in the Us and Badly damage CMS

[@stephendallasdraws2929]

This reminds me of the small town in Missouri I grew up in. When I was a kid 15-20 years ago, it was a pleasant little town. But less than 2 decades later, almost the whole town is boarded up. I remember that when I graduated high school I learned that over 70% of students, myself included, were on free and reduced lunch programs.

[@bigolesackofboogers0690]

The whole damn system is corrupt

[@vangrails]

That house would be 350 000 usd where I live.

[@howtowithelizabeth7513]

vangrails it would be around $500,000 where I live market value I’m California in the Bay Area

[@dickcarpenter8947]

lucky you. this is not the time for being clever smug or complacent. be lucky citizen !

[@olepigeon]

@@howtowithelizabeth7513 3 bed 1 bath? You're looking at $700,000 minimum, and that's in East San Jose, and before any offers put in. Realistically, $800,000. Median home price is $1.2 million right now for a 3 bed 2 bath.

[@carlosvillegas6113]

So..

[@KiwiCatherineJemma]

Here in New Zealand (a long way from Detroit, I admit) even back in about 2009, the cheapest stand-alone house in the cheapest suburb would have cost you NZ $ 250,000 . (Yes that's correct, quarter of a million, and remember you cannot just walk away if you get behind on the mortgage here, the debt follows you even after the house is gone !). Here we pay a combined "council rates" which includes the equivalent of property taxes and public school district fees, and includes the charges for un-metered water, drainage, sewerage, rubbish/trash and recycling collections, as one fixed fee. It's calculated on the value of the house . Annual Council rates on the cheapest houses would be about $2,000 annual (so close to $40 a week). Very few people in New Zealand lose houses due to non-payment of rates for many years. Local governing councils send many many reminders before finally starting action on court ordered sales. That said, many years ago, I do remember seeing on KZbin some smiling Detroit city council official, admitting they they were happily taxing people on houses which they assessed value on at $60,000 while he admitted on camera that the houses were only genuinely worth about $5,000 or less . Given that it was on-camera, it's almost surprising that the Detroit City Council and their valuation staff weren't busted for tax-fraud (ie for knowingly charging too much tax).

[@dknowles60]

thats what bankrupty is for. also there is ch 13

[@MrSupernova111]

@@dknowles60 . Good point! But it doesn't change the fact that the government is committing extortion.

[@dknowles60]

its the State of Michigan. the State wayne county and detroit if dem run

[@mallissacarter5475]

I wouldn't buy anything in Detroit too dangerous even if the house was free lol

[@msnos6245]

Tell it sis

[@SuperDuperCoolBeans]

Thank you for this report. I also live in Michigan. Northern Michigan. Way northern and...they do the same thing here too. This gave me the...anger? to make phone calls and MAY be on the way to get the new "assessment" that I am now taxed on to be fixed. I hope this helps other folks too. Thank you and I pray for those folks losing their home. I swear to God and all that is holy, if I win the lotto I will bet out the investors and give those people their homes back. People have lost their minds.

[@sayiddahbey4718]

Its quite comical how people judge. People miss the point that the properties have been over assessed...period.....

[@capedude465]

You are right, but you also have to realize most people won't appeal over assessment or even care about their tax bill. Once the appeal period has passed, usually 1 year, then the bill is generally locked in forever because it moves into tax lien. That is why if you get a mortgage today the bank will demand they handle the tax escrow and insurance escrow for you.

[@neetw596]

sayiddah bey. You're so right.

[@ritapitt2753]

sayiddah bey Legal Robbery

[@Mike-md8oi]

and people also miss that its not 2009 anymore and there no way in hell that any house could only be worth 3k shes lucky they only assessed it at 30k thats still a low value today for a house.

[@penrodautorepair3170]

sayiddah bey my home was over assessed I paid two grand for my home. My taxes were 1800 per year I struggled and paid my taxes. If people weren't doing dope and buy stuff they didn't need they could pay their taxes.

[@noonexoxo7482]

Tears, sad story, and dead grandma aside, the woman paid 3,000 dollars for a house. She should have plenty of money to pay her taxes no matter how much they were. Considering she paid only 1000 out of 23,000 she is more than in the wrong. This is about business not your emotions.

[@coreyc5134]

James D thank you, glad I wasn’t the only person with a weird look on my face at that part of the video lol 🤔

[@cmpdas]

she saved a ton of money in 8 years.

[@michealb8868]

This is pretty genius by the city council. I mean it’s completely amoral and probably criminal but man you gotta give them credit they really put some thought into how they can rebuild their city just sacrifice all their residents

[@James-yl6jj]

Yup, they expect everyone else to pay what is owed to them, meanwhile they claim bankruptcy and don't have to pay what THEY owe. Kinda messed up but genius to say the least....

[@bonez2450]

She makes 2k a month, 24k a year. She didnt pay her taxes for like 9 years... what do you thinks gonna happen

[@armeniansdoitbetter]

Finally some damn logic in the comments

[@bonez2450]

@Ryan Anderson Join the military like I did, they'll take care of you & get you out of debt.

[@bonez2450]

@Ryan Anderson Well you got dealt a shit card. My sister just got her paralegal degree and she is bipolar and has a brain tumor. If there's a will there is a way. Especially in America.

[@ddrhazy]

@gary corr They are definitely high, that is the the reason they were sold at near zero prices. That house IS worth 35k just in materials and land alone, forget about the labor to assemble those materials into a home.

[@deangarland1726]

@@bonez2450 you sound dumb

[@bobbowie9350]

Bloated public pension doesnt pay for itself!!

[@matthewarnold4557]

Baba Booey it depends on whether the pensioners live in Detroit or not.

[@soulsreaper7145]

its pretty hard for the gov to stay competitive with wages and benefits if it cant offer benefits, and it cant pay high wages so attractive retirements is all they reallyl have

[@ohmusicsweetmusic]

you're probably right. I can assume you'll be refusing any Social Security checks, correct?

[@rogermedina4155]

California is going to experience the same thing. Pensions of public, county, and state workers is really going to drain the states money.

[@ryanbrown6377]

I love how the video conveniently leaves out the fact that the county is controlled by democrats, including the mayor

[@hillaaron9062]

Ryan Brown It doesnt matter if the county gov't is controlled by Democrats or Republicans because the property tax rates will remain the same or even increase no matter which party controls the county govt. Only way for those property taxes to decrease will be if the property owners of said county support and approve an initiative to lower the property taxes. Also you must keep in mind that lowering the property taxes could lead to a shortfall in the county budget to pay for county infrastructure ( schools, bridges, roads, hospitals, salaries for county employees, etc).

[@blakew.5736]

Idk how it is in Michigan, but in Florida we have 3 protections against things like this. 1) Homestead Exemption: reduces your assessed value by $25k, lowering property taxes. 2) Save Our Homes Exemption: maximizes the raise of property taxes from year to year at 3%. 3) Petitioning the Property Appraisers’ Office: hire a private appraiser/lawyer to present your case to the Office. If your appraiser can prove the valuation isn’t correct, the value of the home will be lowered to its actual fair market value.

[@alliegirl2468]

This is bullshit! The city's bankruptcy shouldn't be forwarded to the residents with over assessed houses!! Are you serious?! They really tried everything to get out of debt. This was not a smart choice. I feel awful for the people who lost their homes. This is not fair! It's not fair to anyone!!

[@j9488]

Robe talk with Ms.Allie This is life! You can never really own anything. We really just end up renting from the government after we pay back the bank. If we don’t pay the government they take our stuff. This is the way it works everywhere not just Detroit.

[@rss608]

so, $3k for the house, $23k for the land taxes over 8 years including interest late fees? That is about $200. per month??? wow.. that is the cheapest rent I've ever heard of for a private residence. Sounds like paying her housing costs are very low on her priority list to me..... on the other hand, sounds like your elected officials are totally removed from the local housing crisis or one of the tax lien competitors. I've been to detroit... got to be one of the worst areas in the U.S. that person could choose to live in. It looks to me like the tax lien scammers have turned it into a waste land by paying the liens and reselling the homes in "loan packages".... yes, another RE scam that goes on there....

[@dcg590]

Oh so right. There’s more to this story here. She probably got the house from her. Other too for free. Something ain’t right

[@geninebailey9711]

Losing a home is an awful experience. I have been thru it. God bless these people.