Causing Legal Troubles

[@benjie128]

This is a perfect example of adults who hate each other more than they love the kids.

[@kimberlyadorno280]

Perfectly said

[@EmmaSelina]

When we tried for our son we made a pact that co-patenting would be 50/50 if we ever split up. Wouldn’t be my sons fault. These are kids playing at being adults

[@trekgirl65]

And they are more likely to use the kids against each other.

[@fjccommish]

These adults don't even understand their sex, the basic reality of their being.

[@latentgamer5762]

Naw. It's a bitter homophobic father who taught his sons his mother is less of a human. So every time he gets disciplined, he makes up a big lie.

[@mauricethomas654]

It’s crazy how the bio mom NEVER denied anything that the judge read the boys said to get the restraining order, the child protective services involved, or anything. Speaks volumes!

[@alycew.787]

My observations: The plaintiff had a very aggressive demeanor that she couldn’t hide in court. She seemed like a total “Karen” who would bulldoze over anyone in her way. And the only one who seemed heartbroken over the situation was the defendants fiancé. I feel so sorry for those kids.

[@missy67]

I was surprised the mother (Karen's spouse) hardly said a word through the whole trial. She could have validated the testimony already given, but she didn't. She may not feel comfortable saying anything with a spouse like that.

[@ShadowGirl1126]

No wonder the dad has sole custody.

[@lyric2439]

Bulldoze

[@billmoran3219]

At beginning of case mother of the children head was hung low and she had a look of shame. Plaintiff the spouse, is a controlling manipulative nut and obviously another court seen that and ruled she can’t be around her step children.

[@missy67]

@@billmoran3219 I thought that too

[@spieldose]

"every last one of you is gonna get hated". judge is so right. wow what a dysfunctional family.

[@Kaegoldddd]

& the bio mom’s straight face after she said it smh.

[@jstewart3517]

Not the step mom who actually cares for these babies 😢

[@kristin0408]

I get a bad feeling from the plaintiffs. I think the kids are better off with the father.

[@8thhousealchemist600]

Your intuition is accurate.

[@de4700]

I am gay and don't like the plaintiff's energy. The mother's partner sounds like a bully.

[@kristin0408]

@DE oh I agree! Them being gay has zero to do with my opinion. It's the energy from the girlfriend. She is angry and doesn't seem to act logically.

[@angelaame6148]

The family court needs to appoint a guardian ad litem to vet both sides!! Neither parent seems stable, the parents partners shouldn't play a role in discipline period!!!! These parents hate each and don't care it's destroying their children!!!!

[@bluekat1904]

Let's not discount the allegations made twords the father. It was mentioned several times throughout the court case and kinda swept under the rug. This is a lose lose all the way around

[@yattab4590]

As a mom…I’m just shocked at how quiet the bio mom is during all this. The stepmom (defendant) seems more invested in the children!! 😠😠

[@sandylane5498]

Agreed!

[@MC-xf8bu]

Nope! Shes being abused by sasquash! 🥴

[@dianabohanan9347]

Sasquach... Exactly!

[@kakishisfriend1126]

​@@MC-xf8buThe way I just laughed

[@MC-xf8bu]

@@kakishisfriend1126 😂😂😂

[@noelhine3794]

The fact that the mother of these kids not saying the word shows how abusive her girlfriend is

[@isabellest.pierre5842]

As a mom, I CANNOT FATHOM letting someone bully me into not even speaking up for my kids. I cant believe the bio mom didn’t say a single thing. I 100% believe the partner/plaintiff is a manipulative bully and is mean to the kids AND everyone else. They’re so much better off with the step mother.

[@ChapinQuestWright]

I hope you mean their fathers wife

[@marilynwillett804]

simply because you are NORMAL.

[@isabellest.pierre5842]

@@ChapinQuestWright obviously

[@rusmagonzalez2649]

​@ChapinQuestWright the big Karen is scary to big time 😢😢😢😢

[@perfectlyimperfect9129]

Exactly!! There would be NO STOPPING ME !!

[@TheAllAmericanSocialistMTR1000]

This is one of those cases that would've been perfect for Judge Judy, she'd have absolutely demolished the Plaintiff.

[@irideaunicorn1620]

That's probably why she came on here.

[@gvwj]

Totally agree. Judy does not sugarcoat. ❤

[@GeoffreyWhite-ol9qq]

I thought the very same thing. JJ would rip her a new one.

[@kaystar3434]

Judge Judy? No, thanks!

[@kelslskfnvksle]

The plaintiff is incredibly domineering. The actual mother of the children was completely shut down and looking at the ground throughout most of this case and that says a lot. I can't help but believe she said and did everything the defendants claimed because the big bully energy she brought to court was intense as hell.

[@moniqueengleman873]

She is just a good ol' Country Girl. She seems normal to me. They seem overbearing

[@KymiToliver]

Nah, the allegations don't even make sense.

[@BeccasaurousRex270]

Her “well Owen loves me” Doug “well we don’t have proof of that” I’m deceased 💀⚰️🪦

[@freelikeyve]

Lmao

[@mekhahboohunter5694]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@phyllisneither9097]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@1967davethewave]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 You win the comments!

[@fanoffive9401]

😂😂😂

[@truthhurts7469]

Can't believe the judge never once questioned the mother

[@finally97]

Two things. 1. It could be on the editing floor because of the length of time allotted. 2. She may realize that she is in an abusive relationship.

[@wadilotus]

The mother seems shell-shocked or in a hostage situation

[@EJCruz924]

I don't even know who the bio mom is..

[@carenwierenga6520]

@@EJCruz924bio mom wearing dark top standing silent next to the plaintiff in white, hereby known as The heifer.

[@34stzoo]

I lean into believing the defendant's version of events. From the way the plaintiff walked into the courtroom, her energy, and the look on her face tells me she's about the drama.

[@Wendy-yg8yu]

She seemed to have an answer, in her favour, for every accusation.

[@Ren-dx4zl]

The longer episodes are the best. They contain the most drama

[@carmenmcintyre2229]

The plantiff is the problem and the bio mom needs to get far away from her. Those children shouldn't be anywhere near that woman.

[@XFiorentti]

The plaintiff is your typical abuser that probably has a history of domestic violence

[@jpharleyd9325]

Anyone disagree that the father should definitely retain custody? The plaintiff is a nut job with an uncontrollable temper who has no business interjecting herself in her girlfriend's children's lives. You can tell that she's overbearing in the fact that the children's mother only said about two words. The restraining order is the best tool the defendants have.

[@alyssahamlett]

I didn't even realize that the fat curly haired lady wasn't the kids parent until I was ten minutes in the other lady hasn't spoken at all I don't know if the father is the best person for the kids but I know he's definitely better than the plaintiff's house I believe the kids I absolutely believe the kids

[@de4700]

I am gay and realize the problems of same-sex parents. But she definitely is a bully.

[@crystalshaw8744]

@alyssahamlett Damn. I wonder why she's letting her speak for her? I understand nerves but I think it's something more.

[@jpharleyd9325]

@@de4700 Being gay has nothing to do with it. There can be a dynamic in any relationship, sexuality aside, where one partner is dominant to the point of being a bully.

[@TheZogie]

The plaintiff in this case is the person speaking. That's why she's speaking. I believe half of the stuff is a lie from both the kids and the father and half is true. I believe the father was abusing the boys.. the judge ( their child custody judge) seems to be okay with the physical abuse coming from the father not the verbal abuse from the girlfriend of the biological mother.

[@camarojai6832]

My heart broke for the kids listening to the defendant. That plaintiff😡😡😡

[@kimberlyadorno280]

I went through a similar situation with my ex-husband, who hated me more than he loved our son. I eventually had to get a restraining order for 5 years to get him to stop terrorizing me. Thankfully its been 3yrs since the order expired and we have zero contact still. Our son is old enough to know who is what and who's done what... therefore I never bad mouth his father and encourage him to have a relationship with him. He refuses because of all the terrible memories his father planted in his mind trying to get at me. Its unfortunate, but those children will grow up and truly despise them.

[@christophernunn77]

Well that was depressing.

[@3vrodriguez]

What a toxic environment for those poor kids. Divorce is already hard, these adults should be protecting them and nurturing them not making their childhood a nightmare.

[@dianajiminez4897]

step ,mom with dad is genuine you can tell the other lady is a bully

[@tslee3008]

The bio parents were way too passive in the court room

[@jacquib4048]

They are all such a mess. Just a mess. Hopefully these kids will grow up and develop better lives and break the pattern of hatefulness.

[@sailorminaa]

What a disturbing situation for these kids…I don’t like how the mom (plaintiff’s partner) was so quiet throughout this whole episode. Let’s say the plaintiff did only “some” of the stuff mentioned to the kids, how could the mom just let her gf do that?? Why does the stepmom seem more caring of the fate of these kids than the actual mother?????

[@HWkitty]

She said, "Owen loves me"; he said "well there's no proof of that" 😂😂😂

[@bigplanner]

😂😂

[@luteydog]

🔥🔥🔥

[@jaypreston4458]

I was like damn lol

[@rachelmaiga1589]

He is so ruthless!!! 😂

[@tarinforeman]

He could feel her negative energy I'm sure. I believe the defendant because the plaintiff was oozing negative, hateful, spiteful, angry energy.

[@classybronxite]

People if you have kids and divorce RAISE your kids alone until they are grown if you can’t pick a proper mate!

[@ButtonsCasey]

Amen to this! My daughters ex husband was in a relationship where we believe he was being abused, his behavior completely changed and once he broke up with her he's back to himself. Same with my grandsons. They were acting like different kids cause her son would smack the youngest around and caused issues. He told my daughter he is not dating again til the boys are grown. Now if only she would do the same.

[@MoistNasa]

Parents and step parents that hate eachother more than they love and care for the children. Not all people deserve to be parents.

[@noleeps]

The judge should have thrown the book at the plaintiff.

[@saramichele7366]

Why do significant others try to parent children who aren't theirs? The plaintiff has no business scolding those children! Dad's fiancé seems like a sweetheart who truly cares for the boys.

[@deniceknight6709]

If she’s not that parent then she shouldn’t be allowed to do anything to any of the kids. She always has an excuse. She should just stay out of it.

[@toyacrowder510]

All of them need to grow up and think of the kids

[@rawrbeez6625]

That woman abuses her partner too and gaslights her, guaranteed

[@Adniram.]

The mom's GF is an angry teddy bear. She's just so darn rough around the edges it's obvious. Imagine her a male. Anyone would say the mom is clearly under some sort of abuse. It's only bc she's female and short that our minds don't see it but that's jmo 🤷‍♀️

[@lorirogers9304]

I think the father and his woman are full of hate and spoiling the kids while under their watch. This makes it impossible to have rules at the females’ home.

[@jamsaidemelo1367]

@@lorirogers9304 I think the plaintif are Profesional victims, and the new wife has a lot of warning signs attached to her. Family can afford to spoil a child, isn't doing it to ruin the other parent. Good for them and the child if they can afford it.

[@MC-xf8bu]

Teddy Bear? How bout grizzly bear!

[@magicworld3242]

The plaintiff seems like, She does nothing but start stuff.

[@freelikeyve]

😭

[@lee4094]

It’s speaks volume when the actual mother on the plaintiff side said not one word. She stood quite the entire time. The plaintiff (in green) comes across aggressive. Doesn’t take accountability for anything.

[@anacondaadultlearningcente4522]

Plaintiff is not the parent and has no parental rights. The mother is a washcloth in a relationship with a bull.

[@clarisad.8408]

💀

[@sweetcandykane1]

The plaintiff looks like a wicked person. She couldn't even control herself in court, She is provoking menace and has no business being around those kids, I hope those kids stay away from that toxic environment.

[@EmmaSelina]

The mum and dad are awful! My heart goes out to the stepmom 😢

[@QuinshunCarswell]

I would run if I was her.

[@WELCOMETODEADHAUS]

I swear…. You could tell she’s a good person

[@thatvalensteingirl]

Mom's partner seems to have some dominance issues-- why isn't the bio-mom speaking at all? THEY'RE HER KIDS

[@kyleemon1852]

It's fuc%ing crazy that the actual mom was silent . I believe the lover was abusing the kids . Those kids will hate them . I'm happy the father has them .

[@anniegantt5220]

The mom was quiet, because the girl friend is a gaslighter. She rules the mom.😞

[@moonpaints4090]

These two parents use those children as ways to hurt each other and it's sad.

[@mioa.5429]

The biological mother of these 2 boys needs to leave her female partner.

[@traceyaz125]

They all have mental issues and the ones who will ultimately be broken are the kids.

[@wyatthitchcock2863]

SHE'S PROBABLY AFRAID OF THE BULLDOG

[@valeriedavis2466]

The plaintiff is mean and very vindictive! you can hear it in her testimony. She has also been physical with these boys and it's not going to last much longer because they will retaliate. I feel sorry for the young boys and hope that doesn't continue in them with their children. Praying for them to get some help!

[@lovemymiyah]

Kim is obviously the problem! Look at how aggressive she is in her responses! So many excuses. The mother is neglectful and weak, Kim is full of control and rage I could see that in 15 minutes no way she doesn’t see it in the physical!

[@lawriesaxton7645]

I absolutely hate this Plaintiff. The mother of these children needs to speak up and get involved for the safety of these children.

[@mrsa2you365]

I would've loved to have seen Judge Judy tell both litigants they don't have anything to do with the children and they need to stay out of it

[@HHH-ye1ro]

Imagine choosing…that…over the father of your children. Makes no sense.

[@polarfusion5499]

The judge is right, I hate my family because they’re all like this. I have horrible memories of them and want nothing to do with them.

[@DaishaView]

Whatever they said she did, she did it

[@toya6449]

This lady is also bullying the kids mum she cant even speak up for her kids sake😮

[@Jsarmy87124]

She is not the one who was accused of abused

[@themoonbleu627]

And Owens loves me We don’t have any proof of that 😭😭😭😭 so savage

[@ms.danamonique5293]

yea that was brutal😂😂😂

[@mmmfun77]

What a mess…

[@Oncearanger88]

Courts don’t give restraining orders for hurt feelings. That plaintiff must have really said some stuff to mess the son up bad.

[@linedanzer4302]

Those poor kids are shackled to a bunch of juvenile, petty adults. The plaintiff comes off as a bully.

[@cynv9207]

You can tell the bio mom’s partner is the problem… very aggressive ew

[@vickyserr]

The plaintiff shouldn’t be anywhere near these children ! She shouldn’t even have pets. Horrible woman

[@dellahicks7231]

Why is the actual mother not being addressed? If the plaintiff is that loud and obnoxious in public, there is no way she is staying out of things at home, and has been for two years. It is unfortunate that JMs words are going to be prophetic, those boys are going to enter adulthood hating all the parental figures in their lives!

[@VJ-fm6vz]

The only ones who should be involved with these kids are the BIOLOGICAL parents. The “Fiancée” and “partner” need to fall back

[@Jacky-Poo]

"Owen loves me" "well, you don't have proof of that" savage

[@marysanders3380]

When kids see the parents fighting; they will use that to their advantage as far as privileges. The children are going back & forth telling each set of parents what they want to hear. Especially when it comes to discipline..

[@teacupmagick7030]

The kids are also potentially being abused and being blamed for the poor example that the parents are setting. Kids who experience trauma are more likely to act out- because they often don't feel heard.

[@marysanders3380]

@@teacupmagick7030 Bullshit, they are too busy fighting each other to really focus on the kids. I grew up in a family of six. We couldn't play our parents against each other.

[@kandi668]

⁠@@teacupmagick7030 I’m calling bs too, respectfully. The girlfriend do need to mind her own dang business, but I have no doubt that the 18 year old boy has been playing the situation. Here’s the breakdown: The bio-mom is mute and don’t discipline her own kids so the girlfriend tries to do it cause she thinks she’s tough. The dad is strict, probably lives a conservative lifestyle and doesn’t like his ex-wife’s gf cause she acting like a stepdad. The stepmom is just trying to be a good support system, but she is easily played cause she’s so sensitive. A rebellious teenager’s dream.

[@taylorbrickman3872]

​@@kandi668 well spoken!

[@MC-xf8bu]

The plaintiff is giving me physical abuse vibes! She is WAYYYYY OUT OF LINE!! THESE ARE NOT YOUR CHILDREN!!!!

[@oldageisdumb]

The plaintiff (not the mom) seems like that classic, mean yeller. You all know the type.

[@CarolAbernethy]

IT AMAZES ME HOW IN THE U.S.A. YOU CAN SUE , FOR ANYTHING !!! THAT'S THE BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CANADA & YOU IN THE U.S. WE ARE VERY LIMITED AS TO WHAT CONSTITUTES A LAWSUIT HERE !!! FRIVOLOUS LAWSUITS BACKUP COURTS BAD ENOUGH , WE DON'T HAVE TO ADD TO THE SYSTEM UNNECESSARILY !!!

[@lukerinderknecht2982]

Plaintiff: "Owen loves me" Doug: "We dont have proof of that" 😂😂😂

[@pacobolito8094]

The bio mom is a weak unfit parent she is allowing her partner to abuse her children, their protection should be her 1st priority no excuses, they will hate her the most

[@justinturner8278]

Rose just looks beaten down.

[@luteydog]

Agreed. She look depressed and barely hanging on, which is understandable since she lives with the plaintiff

[@KPbouj]

Or heavily medicated.

[@mernellmobley6782]

Looks says it all. The plaintiff is disgusting. She needs to be pay her own attorney fees. Hah, the plaintiff needs mental therapy. She is a big bully. Jealousy is the heart of this situation. The children suffers always.

[@emilydutes8272]

I cant even finish watching this case.these kids are going to be such screwed up adults. My heart breaks for them. They should be taken away from both homes.

[@markjones97]

This case really hurt my heart. I am praying the kids are OK.

[@dfa3366]

These people involve the court system try to make their lives better. The only one that can do this is themselves. Sad that some people keep the hate active in their lives.

[@jessegreer862]

The plaintiff with the glasses looks like a female version of Peter griffin 😂

[@MorganC.]

A bunch of bullies is what I see

[@amberwavs5421]

Anyone else get the sense that the mom might be a victim of spousal abuse? The entire time she looked down or would quickly dart her eyes over at the judge or defendant. These are her children and she didn't say boo. While the judges ruling was fair, she was out of line admonishing the father and fiancée. What did they do wrong to deserve that type of public scolding?

[@ririabz1393]

soon as plantiff arrived at the podium i knew she was trouble she had a very agressive demeaour

[@christopherchance4860]

This is why you keep kids away from these weirdos ❤

[@carrievictor5810]

The plaintiff seems to keep causing all the turmoil. Poor children. 😮😕😔

[@CWYounger10]

Children can be manipulative. At the same time there are a lot of allegations against this woman. I can’t believe the mom is still willing to be in a relationship with her. The dad and stepmom are doing the right thing reporting what the children are saying. The judge is right that the kids are going to hate them.

[@Jsarmy87124]

Maybe some lgbt pb is involved too I found everything odd how they gonna say racist slur to a yt kid

[@classybronxite]

O I wish there was a proper aunt in the mix to check this “partner”.

[@lanar4014]

Their mom is the cause of this situation.She need to take control and not let someone else do the parenting.

[@riandraegon556]

That defendant is a nightmare. And her partner, the biological mother, looks like she is abused too.

[@tarinforeman]

I believe the defendant. It seems like she's trying to just be there for the kids and their bio mother is upset about it and her partner is aggressive and just has nasty attitude. It seems the defendant is fighting more for the children than either of the bio parents have. So sad.

[@missy67]

The biggest loser in all of this are the kids. I tend to believe the defendants especially since there was a 3rd party witness (coach to the parenting coordinator) saying the plaintiff caused trouble, and multiple times a judge ruled against the plaintiff. Plaintiff takes no responsibility for her actions and blames the situation on a manipulative teenager. Sad situation.

[@Ichliebemeinekatze99]

Why did she make herself cry like that 🙄. Like girl come on now

[@SpanishRockstar]

And the mom is a monster for allowing that

[@Ryan-pm4fk]

The plaintiff who did all the talking has a bossy, interfering, mean nature, she looks like a real bully, I pity the boy when she sat on him, she looks the type to do it.

[@raykepper8851]

That "thing" runs her mouth while the mom is quiet! Guess who is in charge of that sick "relationship"!

[@MRGETEM247]

The Plaintiff is aggressive and Lying and why in the world is she talking MORE then the kids actual mom, she’s so silent , she’s letting the Plaintiff abuse these kids , she’s the PROBEM too . Both sides are a mess

[@BobBlumenfeld]

"Your kids are going to hate all of you . All of you. Doesn't that matter to anybody?" Not if the kids hate the other side more. Some people, and from the testimony and writing presented, at least half of these four, at least one on each side, may well be those people, and feel good if their enemies suffer more than they themselves are suffering.

[@djchinot7229]

I don’t understand why adults can’t be adults for the kids sake. Smh

[@ree_ree]

This is so sad...I hope those kids can grow up and find happiness.

[@tashanapink7688]

Correction the kids are gonna hate the mom for allowing the girlfriend to run her life. The mom didn’t say a thing the entire court proceeding and I can bet she’s being abused as well. The plaintiff is a freggin bully.

[@BeccasaurousRex270]

She’s definitely being abused. The actual mom has yet to look up. Her face is always to the side or looking down. Classic signs of being abused by a dominant partner

[@cabron247]

Those kids are going to need therapy. The oldest might have anger issues in his adulthood.

[@ConfusedinJuly]

I don't talk to my dad for bs like this and I'm not having kids so I don't pass it on. This is sad

[@alohakrueger5447]

The only somewhat likable one was the defendant lady. The dad is a coward too.

[@8thhousealchemist600]

Judge Millian always looks so fabulous. I better look that good when I get her age.

[@vanessajohn3273]

Letting anyone mishandle and abuse your kids... you shoulf not have custody

[@natashavelasco5918]

Fall on him .. oh gosh poor adam

[@simonc1039]

Step parents need to stay in their lane. That angry woman has no place in other people's children's lives, and her spineless partner, who is the mother, doesn't deserve contact until she steps up and demands her partner take a back seat or leave.

[@80sGal88]

Is Rose the defendant’s ex wife? If so, I’m so curious to know why she is so mute about a case that involves her own children. She seems checked out. That whole dynamic is odd concerning the plaintiffs.

[@AlibraMentality]

Omgosh the plaintiff is definitely an abuser. You can see it in her eyes, she’s probably bipolar. My step dad was abusive, and bipolar same kind of eyes

[@ceilebathrick6412]

The behavior of these adults makes me really sad. They’re failing these children

[@jeanm9521]

Plantiff shouldn't be allowed near any children.