Causing Legal Troubles

[@mauricethomas654]

It’s crazy how the bio mom NEVER denied anything that the judge read the boys said to get the restraining order, the child protective services involved, or anything. Speaks volumes!

[@benjie128]

This is a perfect example of adults who hate each other more than they love the kids.

[@kimberlyadorno280]

Perfectly said

[@EmmaSelina]

When we tried for our son we made a pact that co-patenting would be 50/50 if we ever split up. Wouldn’t be my sons fault. These are kids playing at being adults

[@trekgirl65]

And they are more likely to use the kids against each other.

[@fjccommish]

These adults don't even understand their sex, the basic reality of their being.

[@latentgamer5762]

Naw. It's a bitter homophobic father who taught his sons his mother is less of a human. So every time he gets disciplined, he makes up a big lie.

[@alycew.787]

My observations: The plaintiff had a very aggressive demeanor that she couldn’t hide in court. She seemed like a total “Karen” who would bulldoze over anyone in her way. And the only one who seemed heartbroken over the situation was the defendants fiancé. I feel so sorry for those kids.

[@missy67]

I was surprised the mother (Karen's spouse) hardly said a word through the whole trial. She could have validated the testimony already given, but she didn't. She may not feel comfortable saying anything with a spouse like that.

[@ShadowGirl1126]

No wonder the dad has sole custody.

[@lyric2439]

Bulldoze

[@billmoran3219]

At beginning of case mother of the children head was hung low and she had a look of shame. Plaintiff the spouse, is a controlling manipulative nut and obviously another court seen that and ruled she can’t be around her step children.

[@missy67]

@@billmoran3219 I thought that too

[@spieldose]

"every last one of you is gonna get hated". judge is so right. wow what a dysfunctional family.

[@Kaegoldddd]

& the bio mom’s straight face after she said it smh.

[@jstewart3517]

Not the step mom who actually cares for these babies 😢

[@kristin0408]

I get a bad feeling from the plaintiffs. I think the kids are better off with the father.

[@8thhousealchemist600]

Your intuition is accurate.

[@de4700]

I am gay and don't like the plaintiff's energy. The mother's partner sounds like a bully.

[@kristin0408]

@DE oh I agree! Them being gay has zero to do with my opinion. It's the energy from the girlfriend. She is angry and doesn't seem to act logically.

[@angelaame6148]

The family court needs to appoint a guardian ad litem to vet both sides!! Neither parent seems stable, the parents partners shouldn't play a role in discipline period!!!! These parents hate each and don't care it's destroying their children!!!!

[@bluekat1904]

Let's not discount the allegations made twords the father. It was mentioned several times throughout the court case and kinda swept under the rug. This is a lose lose all the way around

[@yattab4590]

As a mom…I’m just shocked at how quiet the bio mom is during all this. The stepmom (defendant) seems more invested in the children!! 😠😠

[@sandylane5498]

Agreed!

[@MC-xf8bu]

Nope! Shes being abused by sasquash! 🥴

[@dianabohanan9347]

Sasquach... Exactly!

[@kakishisfriend1126]

​@@MC-xf8buThe way I just laughed

[@MC-xf8bu]

@@kakishisfriend1126 😂😂😂

[@noelhine3794]

The fact that the mother of these kids not saying A word shows how abusive her girlfriend is

[@jennyammari5997]

I was thinking the same thing. She looks so scared.

[@Letstalkaboutdirtbags]

So was I before I started reading the comments. She looks like she is scared to even raise her hand let alone speak

[@lizboard6833]

Look how belligerent she is in court. ( I know you are lol) Court, like church is one of those places you should be on your very best behavior. If she's like this in court I can't imagine what she's like behind closed doors 😢.

[@lizboard6833]

​​@@judyelmer2257 Oh Lord....come on now. Was it that important? While we're at it, the letter a shouldn't be capitalized, the spacing of the period is incorrect and the word not should be capitalized because it's at the beginning of a sentence. 🙄

[@Letstalkaboutdirtbags]

@ agreed! Anyone who is arrogant enough to act defiant to a person who holds your fate even in a case such as this is bound to be 10 times worse to people around them in every day life.

[@truthhurts7469]

Can't believe the judge never once questioned the mother

[@finally97]

Two things. 1. It could be on the editing floor because of the length of time allotted. 2. She may realize that she is in an abusive relationship.

[@wadilotus]

The mother seems shell-shocked or in a hostage situation

[@MarieJulie211]

I don't even know who the bio mom is..

[@carenwierenga6520]

@@MarieJulie211bio mom wearing dark top standing silent next to the plaintiff in white, hereby known as The heifer.

[@TheAllAmericanSocialistMTR1000]

This is one of those cases that would've been perfect for Judge Judy, she'd have absolutely demolished the Plaintiff.

[@irideaunicorn1620]

That's probably why she came on here.

[@gvwj]

Totally agree. Judy does not sugarcoat. ❤

[@GeoffreyWhite-ol9qq]

I thought the very same thing. JJ would rip her a new one.

[@kaystar3434]

Judge Judy? No, thanks!

[@answersforlooking9430]

i wish it was on judge judy..... you are right

[@carmenmcintyre2229]

The plantiff is the problem and the bio mom needs to get far away from her. Those children shouldn't be anywhere near that woman.

[@XFiorentti]

The plaintiff is your typical abuser that probably has a history of domestic violence

[@silvermillennial]

The plaintiff is incredibly domineering. The actual mother of the children was completely shut down and looking at the ground throughout most of this case and that says a lot. I can't help but believe she said and did everything the defendants claimed because the big bully energy she brought to court was intense as hell.

[@moniqueengleman873]

She is just a good ol' Country Girl. She seems normal to me. They seem overbearing

[@KymiToliver]

Nah, the allegations don't even make sense.

[@isabellest.pierre5842]

As a mom, I CANNOT FATHOM letting someone bully me into not even speaking up for my kids. I cant believe the bio mom didn’t say a single thing. I 100% believe the partner/plaintiff is a manipulative bully and is mean to the kids AND everyone else. They’re so much better off with the step mother.

[@ChapinQuestWright]

I hope you mean their fathers wife

[@isabellest.pierre5842]

@@ChapinQuestWright obviously

[@rusmagonzalez2649]

​@ChapinQuestWright the big Karen is scary to big time 😢😢😢😢

[@perfectlyimperfect9129]

Exactly!! There would be NO STOPPING ME !!

[@milliochs8668]

I was thinking the same thing. The bio has no spine.

[@tslee3008]

The bio parents were way too passive in the court room

[@iamdenislara]

THANK YOU!! WTF! Why is this stranger so into those kids?

[@34stzoo]

I lean into believing the defendant's version of events. From the way the plaintiff walked into the courtroom, her energy, and the look on her face tells me she's about the drama.

[@Wendy-yg8yu]

She seemed to have an answer, in her favour, for every accusation.

[@camarojai6832]

My heart broke for the kids listening to the defendant. That plaintiff😡😡😡

[@BeccasaurousRex270]

Her “well Owen loves me” Doug “well we don’t have proof of that” I’m deceased 💀⚰️🪦

[@freelikeyve]

Lmao

[@mekhahboohunter5694]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@phyllisneither9097]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@1967davethewave]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 You win the comments!

[@fanoffive9401]

😂😂😂

[@Ren-dx4zl]

The longer episodes are the best. They contain the most drama

[@jpharleyd9325]

Anyone disagree that the father should definitely retain custody? The plaintiff is a nut job with an uncontrollable temper who has no business interjecting herself in her girlfriend's children's lives. You can tell that she's overbearing in the fact that the children's mother only said about two words. The restraining order is the best tool the defendants have.

[@alyssahamlett]

I didn't even realize that the fat curly haired lady wasn't the kids parent until I was ten minutes in the other lady hasn't spoken at all I don't know if the father is the best person for the kids but I know he's definitely better than the plaintiff's house I believe the kids I absolutely believe the kids

[@de4700]

I am gay and realize the problems of same-sex parents. But she definitely is a bully.

[@crystalshaw8744]

@alyssahamlett Damn. I wonder why she's letting her speak for her? I understand nerves but I think it's something more.

[@jpharleyd9325]

@@de4700 Being gay has nothing to do with it. There can be a dynamic in any relationship, sexuality aside, where one partner is dominant to the point of being a bully.

[@TheZogie]

The plaintiff in this case is the person speaking. That's why she's speaking. I believe half of the stuff is a lie from both the kids and the father and half is true. I believe the father was abusing the boys.. the judge ( their child custody judge) seems to be okay with the physical abuse coming from the father not the verbal abuse from the girlfriend of the biological mother.

[@dianajiminez4897]

step ,mom with dad is genuine you can tell the other lady is a bully

[@rawrbeez6625]

That woman abuses her partner too and gaslights her, guaranteed

[@noleeps]

The judge should have thrown the book at the plaintiff.

[@christophernunn77]

Well that was depressing.

[@classybronxite]

People if you have kids and divorce RAISE your kids alone until they are grown if you can’t pick a proper mate!

[@ButtonsCasey]

Amen to this! My daughters ex husband was in a relationship where we believe he was being abused, his behavior completely changed and once he broke up with her he's back to himself. Same with my grandsons. They were acting like different kids cause her son would smack the youngest around and caused issues. He told my daughter he is not dating again til the boys are grown. Now if only she would do the same.

[@saramichele7366]

Why do significant others try to parent children who aren't theirs? The plaintiff has no business scolding those children! Dad's fiancé seems like a sweetheart who truly cares for the boys.

[@3vrodriguez]

What a toxic environment for those poor kids. Divorce is already hard, these adults should be protecting them and nurturing them not making their childhood a nightmare.

[@magicworld3242]

The plaintiff seems like, She does nothing but start stuff.

[@freelikeyve]

😭

[@HWkitty]

She said, "Owen loves me"; he said "well there's no proof of that" 😂😂😂

[@bigplanner]

😂😂

[@luteydog]

🔥🔥🔥

[@jaypreston4458]

I was like damn lol

[@rachelmaiga1589]

He is so ruthless!!! 😂

[@tarinforeman]

He could feel her negative energy I'm sure. I believe the defendant because the plaintiff was oozing negative, hateful, spiteful, angry energy.

[@kimberlyadorno280]

I went through a similar situation with my ex-husband, who hated me more than he loved our son. I eventually had to get a restraining order for 5 years to get him to stop terrorizing me. Thankfully its been 3yrs since the order expired and we have zero contact still. Our son is old enough to know who is what and who's done what... therefore I never bad mouth his father and encourage him to have a relationship with him. He refuses because of all the terrible memories his father planted in his mind trying to get at me. Its unfortunate, but those children will grow up and truly despise them.

[@mioa.5429]

The biological mother of these 2 boys needs to leave her female partner.

[@traceyaz125]

They all have mental issues and the ones who will ultimately be broken are the kids.

[@wyatthitchcock2863]

SHE'S PROBABLY AFRAID OF THE BULLDOG

[@anacondaadultlearningcente4522]

Plaintiff is not the parent and has no parental rights. The mother is a washcloth in a relationship with a bull.

[@Clarisaaaa77]

💀

[@jacquib4048]

They are all such a mess. Just a mess. Hopefully these kids will grow up and develop better lives and break the pattern of hatefulness.

[@MoistNasa]

Parents and step parents that hate eachother more than they love and care for the children. Not all people deserve to be parents.

[@amberwavs5421]

Anyone else get the sense that the mom might be a victim of spousal abuse? The entire time she looked down or would quickly dart her eyes over at the judge or defendant. These are her children and she didn't say boo. While the judges ruling was fair, she was out of line admonishing the father and fiancée. What did they do wrong to deserve that type of public scolding?

[@EmmaSelina]

The mum and dad are awful! My heart goes out to the stepmom 😢

[@QuinshunCarswell]

I would run if I was her.

[@WELCOMETODEADHAUS]

I swear…. You could tell she’s a good person

[@thatvalensteingirl]

Mom's partner seems to have some dominance issues-- why isn't the bio-mom speaking at all? THEY'RE HER KIDS

[@toyacrowder510]

All of them need to grow up and think of the kids

[@Adniram.]

The mom's GF is an angry teddy bear. She's just so darn rough around the edges it's obvious. Imagine her a male. Anyone would say the mom is clearly under some sort of abuse. It's only bc she's female and short that our minds don't see it but that's jmo 🤷‍♀️

[@lorirogers9304]

I think the father and his woman are full of hate and spoiling the kids while under their watch. This makes it impossible to have rules at the females’ home.

[@jamsaidemelo1367]

@@lorirogers9304 I think the plaintif are Profesional victims, and the new wife has a lot of warning signs attached to her. Family can afford to spoil a child, isn't doing it to ruin the other parent. Good for them and the child if they can afford it.

[@MC-xf8bu]

Teddy Bear? How bout grizzly bear!

[@sweetcandykane1]

The plaintiff looks like a wicked person. She couldn't even control herself in court, She is provoking menace and has no business being around those kids, I hope those kids stay away from that toxic environment.

[@deniceknight6709]

If she’s not that parent then she shouldn’t be allowed to do anything to any of the kids. She always has an excuse. She should just stay out of it.

[@mrsa2you365]

I would've loved to have seen Judge Judy tell both litigants they don't have anything to do with the children and they need to stay out of it

[@sailorminaa]

What a disturbing situation for these kids…I don’t like how the mom (plaintiff’s partner) was so quiet throughout this whole episode. Let’s say the plaintiff did only “some” of the stuff mentioned to the kids, how could the mom just let her gf do that?? Why does the stepmom seem more caring of the fate of these kids than the actual mother?????

[@kyleemon1852]

It's fuc%ing crazy that the actual mom was silent . I believe the lover was abusing the kids . Those kids will hate them . I'm happy the father has them .

[@anniegantt5220]

The mom was quiet, because the girl friend is a gaslighter. She rules the mom.😞

[@VJ-fm6vz]

The only ones who should be involved with these kids are the BIOLOGICAL parents. The “Fiancée” and “partner” need to fall back

[@SilentWarrior88]

Agreed!

[@moonpaints4090]

These two parents use those children as ways to hurt each other and it's sad.

[@cynv9207]

You can tell the bio mom’s partner is the problem… very aggressive ew

[@lee4094]

It’s speaks volume when the actual mother on the plaintiff side said not one word. She stood quite the entire time. The plaintiff (in green) comes across aggressive. Doesn’t take accountability for anything.

[@rckkeller9437]

The stepmom has been stepping over her boundaries…she has zero business in disciplining those children.

[@missa1goins]

The bio mother letting it happen

[@pacobolito8094]

The bio mom is a weak unfit parent she is allowing her partner to abuse her children, their protection should be her 1st priority no excuses, they will hate her the most

[@Jacky-Poo]

"Owen loves me" "well, you don't have proof of that" savage

[@babsdolson]

ugh, they all need parenting classes

[@lovemymiyah]

Kim is obviously the problem! Look at how aggressive she is in her responses! So many excuses. The mother is neglectful and weak, Kim is full of control and rage I could see that in 15 minutes no way she doesn’t see it in the physical!

[@polarfusion5499]

The judge is right, I hate my family because they’re all like this. I have horrible memories of them and want nothing to do with them.

[@lawriesaxton7645]

I absolutely hate this Plaintiff. The mother of these children needs to speak up and get involved for the safety of these children.

[@MC-xf8bu]

The plaintiff is giving me physical abuse vibes! She is WAYYYYY OUT OF LINE!! THESE ARE NOT YOUR CHILDREN!!!!

[@DaishaView]

Whatever they said she did, she did it

[@christopherchance4860]

This is why you keep kids away from these weirdos ❤

[@valeriedavis2466]

The plaintiff is mean and very vindictive! you can hear it in her testimony. She has also been physical with these boys and it's not going to last much longer because they will retaliate. I feel sorry for the young boys and hope that doesn't continue in them with their children. Praying for them to get some help!

[@rckkeller9437]

How dare that mother put her sons in harms way and stand by and do nothing to protect them…

[@themoonbleu627]

And Owens loves me We don’t have any proof of that 😭😭😭😭 so savage

[@ms.danamonique5293]

yea that was brutal😂😂😂

[@HHH-ye1ro]

Imagine choosing…that…over the father of your children. Makes no sense.

[@linedanzer4302]

Those poor kids are shackled to a bunch of juvenile, petty adults. The plaintiff comes off as a bully.

[@dellahicks7231]

Why is the actual mother not being addressed? If the plaintiff is that loud and obnoxious in public, there is no way she is staying out of things at home, and has been for two years. It is unfortunate that JMs words are going to be prophetic, those boys are going to enter adulthood hating all the parental figures in their lives!

[@CarolAbernethy]

IT AMAZES ME HOW IN THE U.S.A. YOU CAN SUE , FOR ANYTHING !!! THAT'S THE BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CANADA & YOU IN THE U.S. WE ARE VERY LIMITED AS TO WHAT CONSTITUTES A LAWSUIT HERE !!! FRIVOLOUS LAWSUITS BACKUP COURTS BAD ENOUGH , WE DON'T HAVE TO ADD TO THE SYSTEM UNNECESSARILY !!!

[@carrievictor5810]

The plaintiff seems to keep causing all the turmoil. Poor children. 😮😕😔

[@toya6449]

This lady is also bullying the kids mum she cant even speak up for her kids sake😮

[@Jsarmy87124]

She is not the one who was accused of abused

[@mmmfun77]

What a mess…

[@vickyserr]

The plaintiff shouldn’t be anywhere near these children ! She shouldn’t even have pets. Horrible woman

[@Oncearanger88]

Courts don’t give restraining orders for hurt feelings. That plaintiff must have really said some stuff to mess the son up bad.

[@oldageisdumb]

The plaintiff (not the mom) seems like that classic, mean yeller. You all know the type.

[@marysanders3380]

When kids see the parents fighting; they will use that to their advantage as far as privileges. The children are going back & forth telling each set of parents what they want to hear. Especially when it comes to discipline..

[@teacupmagick7030]

The kids are also potentially being abused and being blamed for the poor example that the parents are setting. Kids who experience trauma are more likely to act out- because they often don't feel heard.

[@marysanders3380]

@@teacupmagick7030 Bullshit, they are too busy fighting each other to really focus on the kids. I grew up in a family of six. We couldn't play our parents against each other.

[@kandi668]

⁠@@teacupmagick7030 I’m calling bs too, respectfully. The girlfriend do need to mind her own dang business, but I have no doubt that the 18 year old boy has been playing the situation. Here’s the breakdown: The bio-mom is mute and don’t discipline her own kids so the girlfriend tries to do it cause she thinks she’s tough. The dad is strict, probably lives a conservative lifestyle and doesn’t like his ex-wife’s gf cause she acting like a stepdad. The stepmom is just trying to be a good support system, but she is easily played cause she’s so sensitive. A rebellious teenager’s dream.

[@taylorbrickman3872]

​@@kandi668 well spoken!

[@ririabz1393]

soon as plantiff arrived at the podium i knew she was trouble she had a very agressive demeaour

[@lukerinderknecht2982]

Plaintiff: "Owen loves me" Doug: "We dont have proof of that" 😂😂😂

[@emilydutes8272]

I cant even finish watching this case.these kids are going to be such screwed up adults. My heart breaks for them. They should be taken away from both homes.

[@MorganC.]

A bunch of bullies is what I see

[@alohakrueger5447]

The only somewhat likable one was the defendant lady. The dad is a coward too.

[@markjones97]

This case really hurt my heart. I am praying the kids are OK.

[@Ichliebemeinekatze99]

Why did she make herself cry like that 🙄. Like girl come on now

[@MikeNelli-uq2wl]

Those poor children

[@raykepper]

That "thing" runs her mouth while the mom is quiet! Guess who is in charge of that sick "relationship"!

[@dfa3366]

These people involve the court system try to make their lives better. The only one that can do this is themselves. Sad that some people keep the hate active in their lives.

[@justinturner8278]

Rose just looks beaten down.

[@luteydog]

Agreed. She look depressed and barely hanging on, which is understandable since she lives with the plaintiff

[@KPbouj]

Or heavily medicated.

[@mernellmobley6782]

Looks says it all. The plaintiff is disgusting. She needs to be pay her own attorney fees. Hah, the plaintiff needs mental therapy. She is a big bully. Jealousy is the heart of this situation. The children suffers always.

[@leoeckert4408]

This shows why mental maturity is vital to raising a child. Being spiteful is childish.

[@MarieJulie211]

If the plaintiff is not the bio mom, why does she have any visitation?

[@thelmadickinson6811]

She doesn’t. It’s that she’s being barred from attending school functions or sporting events.

[@catcol8746]

The bio mom’s girlfriend is the problem! Either the woman is attempting to take on the ‘lead parent’ role or she’s just a control freak, who is more concerned with being the ‘head of household’ with all the control and power over the family. Problem is, she’s not the other legal parent and has no power over those kids! If a partner loves you, they’ll sacrifice for you and your children, they’ll empower you as a parent, even if that means the partner is on the sidelines regarding the parenting dynamic. Don’t overplay your role with someone else’s children!

[@Ryan-pm4fk]

The plaintiff who did all the talking has a bossy, interfering, mean nature, she looks like a real bully, I pity the boy when she sat on him, she looks the type to do it.

[@tarinforeman]

I believe the defendant. It seems like she's trying to just be there for the kids and their bio mother is upset about it and her partner is aggressive and just has nasty attitude. It seems the defendant is fighting more for the children than either of the bio parents have. So sad.

[@cabron247]

Those kids are going to need therapy. The oldest might have anger issues in his adulthood.

[@classybronxite]

O I wish there was a proper aunt in the mix to check this “partner”.

[@riandraegon556]

That defendant is a nightmare. And her partner, the biological mother, looks like she is abused too.

[@maryellenbeale2188]

That plaintiff would embarrass any kid if she showed up at his sports practice. She's frightening

[@lanar4014]

Their mom is the cause of this situation.She need to take control and not let someone else do the parenting.

[@Pinkmangopop]

The plaintiff is a bully. The kids mom seems to be scared of her too

[@daymonnin]

Four nights every two weeks is too much. With the two plaintiffs sounds like it needs to be supervised visitation.

[@christopherchance4860]

Two wimps each got themselves a woman to fight for them

[@oldageisdumb]

Exactly. Why are the actual parents not talking?? At least the step mom (defendant) seems like a nice person.

[@JacksonCaesar]

Fair judgement for a sad case.

[@nikkired5584]

0:37 I'm sorry did voice over guy just say her name was "Mooolissa" ?! 🐄😂

[@mernellmobley6782]

The plaintiffs looks says it all.

[@ms.brittonbritton7130]

Doug is diabolical!!!! And I love it!!!

[@82nickjones]

Doug is a savage lol

[@jewels964]

Judge is PISSED and rightfully so. That gavel drop was hard!!!!

[@Tinamarie10289]

Wow. The defendant is the only one who actually cares. Look at the mother standing not giving a crap the plaintiff is just nasty. And the dad has said nothing

[@elishiamariewilson8289]

Why is the mother not saying anything!!!!