Percy Jackson Season 1 Episode 6 - TheMythologyGuy discusses

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[@james05723]

i was extremely disappointed in the lack of “magic” and the “whimsical” feel in the casino. Adding hermes in the scene was the downfall of this episode, he gave away that time can move faster, and offered them a free ride. Which in my opinion was a mistake.

[@spencerwillmoth5456]

100% agree

[@wcapewell3089]

And they added a 4th pearl at the end, which is probably going to take away from the greek tragedy element of the story.

[@spencerwillmoth5456]

@@wcapewell3089 I totally forgot about that, I guess they really just don't want stakes in their show

[@rockargen9591]

​@@wcapewell3089 I think they are gonna have them lose it, that way they don't just go to the underworld with 3 and get surprised when they can't save Sally as well.

[@-Sai]

I don't even mind the kids immediately know that eating anything will get them trapped as soon as they walk in from the myths. As since it is being pumped into the air and not in the food they still lose track of time. Which is a nice twist as they still get trapped despite their precautions. But the problem lies in how the trio realizes several days has passed. Does Percy slowly figure it out by talking to a kid from a different decade? Nope. Hermes just tells them. Percy never gets to use his wit, everything is just laid for him. What is the point of telling a story in a visual medium if the characters are just told everything? Having them know that the hotel is a trap both kills the tension and creates a "show don't tell" issue.

[@nok3251]

The inside of a Chuck E. Cheese has more glamour and liveliness than the show’s Lotus Casino.

[@randomericthings7506]

😂

[@longforgotten4823]

And more narrative depth

[@-Sai]

I don't even mind the kids immediately know that eating anything will get them trapped as soon as they walk in from the myths. As since it is being pumped into the air and not in the food they still lose track of time. Which is a nice twist as they still get trapped despite their precautions. But the problem lies in how the trio realizes several days has passed. Does Percy slowly figure it out by talking to a kid from a different decade? Nope. Hermes just tells them. Percy never gets to use his wit, everything is just laid for him. What is the point of telling a story in a visual medium if the characters are just told everything? Having them know that the hotel is a trap both kills the tension and creates a "show don't tell" issue.

[@spencerwillmoth5456]

the worst part is Percy exo dumps the 5 day thing to Annabeth and he was off scream exo dumped by Hermes! its horribly written!

[@-Sai]

@@spencerwillmoth5456 Ikr. If we are just supposed to assume Hermes told him offscreen. It's a cop-out for bad writing

[@Sinix946]

@@-Saiwhat he don’t say it offscreen he says something like “be careful you don’t have a lot of time” and Percy runs to the entrance where they se it’s dark outside

[@-Sai]

@@Sinix946 but he is not told onscreen how the lotus flowers are being pumped into the air but yet he just knows that

[@kokopium8003]

@@-Sai you know you just reminded me of something I learned the other day. A non book reader who is reacting to the show actually figured out that the Lotus Casino was pumping the lotus flowers into the air because he heard of the Las Vegas Casinos myth about how the casinos pump extra oxygen into the air to make ppl disoriented and less aware of what they were doing in the casino. Thus making them “trapped” and bound to gamble away more. So he used that reference and applied it to the show and he was right as he continued watching the episode. And I was really surprised because I never heard of that myth. Also it was really solid of a prediction.. for someone who didn’t know anything abt PJO they were kinda cooking. I’m not saying this reference was confirmed by the show runners… but if they did reference it into the writing id say it was kinda smart. It’s a similar phenomena of how ppl who never read the books immediately understand the irony of Los Angeles being ghe entrance to the underworld.

[@thomaspunt2646]

I know this is heresy among PJO fans but the movie did the Lotus Hotel better than the book itself. Considering it was inspired by the Island of the Lotus Eaters from the Odyssey where Odysseus's crew eat lotus flowers and forgot about their quest, having Percy, Grover, and Annabeth eat lotus flowers and forget about their quest made sense as a way of transplanting something from Greek mythology into modern day. There, now you can burn me at the stake while Riordan throws D&D dice at me.

[@limkailuen3022]

Nah most people like the Lotus scene in the movie cause like TMG said , it’s more or less accurate to the books

[@SB-sd1sg]

the movie made the lotus scene fun lmao. Like we genuinely saw the crew happy and this is exactly the point of the lotus casino (never age and just keep vibing). I feel like they just ruined it right when Grover refers to this to Odyssey. Adding Hermes had zero value and I wish they explored the hotel more 😐

[@darkserpentcat3309]

Except the Grover dance…

[@theanimeunderworld8338]

Plus the lotus flowers can be a commentary on drug abuse, gambling addiction, when the three want to keep partying and having fun. It felt like hours past when days past instead because they were having fun

[@_-drowsy-_]

Hate to admit it, but I 100% agree

[@offdutyenglishmajor9924]

Okay, you let out a groan of frustration at about four minutes, and that's exactly how I felt. The first thing I said to my friend was, "Did Rick even read his own book when he wrote this script?" Also, what was with Annabeth, the daughter of the Goddess of *Wisdom* doing coming up with the plan to split up? And then having the nerve to tell Grover, when he asked why their memories weren't affected by the hotel, that it helps to have someone there to remind you. Like, jerk, you came up with the brilliant plan!

[@dariovirga7711]

As for Rick's work, I'll be frank with you: I lost all hope on him after seeing that bit about "Roman Gods are just Greek Olympians' split personality". Anyone worth their salt knows that, despite the similarities and influence, Roman gods are different (and also very similar to the Etruscan one)

[@SupremPyro]

@@dariovirga7711 that might be true in our world. In the pjo universe? The Roman Gods are just Greek Olympians´ split personality. That is fiction you can take something from ur world and change it for your fictional world to fit in the verse.

[@dariovirga7711]

@@SupremPyro I'd be fine with that if it weren't for the fact that Riordan also rides the "accurate research" bus, frequently making use of obscure myths and accurate references for his stories that would be completely useless if his work was set in an alternate reality where anything goes regardless of mythical accuracy (and I have nothing against this trope when it is done right, see Ryu Fujisaki's Hoshin Engi compared to the original text). I find distasteful his fall into the lazy "common knowledge" of Roman gods are Greek Gods with funnier names when at the same time he has Eģyptian and Norse Pantheon separated, despite the Greeks and Romans using the same logic towards them (the Greeks having the story that their gods escaped to Egypt to hide from Typhon, becoming tje local pantheon, while the Romans identified several Norse deities with their own, such as Wodan being Mercury).

[@ianbrudnakvoss3126]

@@dariovirga7711 Am I wrong in thinking the Romans syncretized a lot more with the Greeks than the others? Didn't they adapt a lot of Greek myths into their own than Norse and Egyptian? Aren't a number of our sources for those myths Roman texts? Yeah they thought Odin was Mercury, but they didn't start treating Mercury as the head honcho because of it right? He also doesn't account for the Mycenaean gods at all which is almost the exact same situation, so you could justify it as they BECAME split personalities because so much was borrowed, since the in-universe logic is that if enough people believe in it, it becomes true. A good example of this would be Medusa, whose backstory became and still is the popular narrative and was thus used in the books, even though it's an Ovid fanfic and not the original Greek story. The difference here is that Medusa is just a monster and so, like the minor gods, probably isn't important enough to be split (within that world). I do still agree that he gives himself too much credit or, more accurately, his world-building is extremely shallow and he rarely justifies in a deeper way why something is different and leaves a lot of it up to the reader to interpret, which is lazy (but still better than giving bad lore like JKR)

[@chaptersbymoonlight]

I’m confused as to why Annabeth thought her hat would work on Hermes. In Chalice of the Gods we learn that the gods can still see the person wearing it, which Percy guessed and Grover confirmed.

[@spencerwillmoth5456]

Yeah its dumb as heck

[@pogofgreed3707]

I like how she pickpockets the literal god of thieves lol

[@vegeta6169]

I think it's because her fatal flaw is Pride so it makes a lot of sense.

[@kozygeorg]

It is said that hermes LET her pickpocket him

[@Neutral_Tired]

​@@kozygeorgthat's how she gets away with it but it doesn't explain why she thought it would work.

[@Deniz-Arda]

if we are going to start saying "there is no need to follow the books", the movies were perfect

[@theanimeunderworld8338]

They did the casino better Even Rick said that

[@calebmcclure3893]

@@theanimeunderworld8338where did Rick say they did the casino better?

[@theanimeunderworld8338]

@@calebmcclure3893 in a latter/interview Rick wrote to Fox for the first movie when he reviewed the script

[@johnyshadow]

Yup, if the movies are not an adaptation, but their own continuity, they´re a pretty fun watch.

[@ianbrudnakvoss3126]

They still have terrible writing, 0 chemistry, and bad jokes, they're really not that fun to watch. Episodes 2 and 5 of the show are pretty shit and have made it overall subpar, but on the whole I has exceeded my first expectations from when I saw it was gonna be a Disney+ live-action show, both of which were pretty good indicators it would underwhelm.

[@gibxkey7633]

I'm glad TMG is speaking the truth. I can't watch any other PJO youtuber who isn't calling the series a masterpiece for whatever reason and ignoring the blatant flaws that are not just PJO-exclusive too - they apply to how all TV shows must be judged.

[@SirsasthNigam.]

On the review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes, 96% of 55 critics' reviews are positive, with an average rating of 7.5/10. The website's consensus reads: "A faithful adaptation of Rick Riordan's novels, Percy Jackson and the Olympians is a lovingly realized odyssey through adolescence and myth." With the new cast, Riordan feels that everyone involved is "perfect," even if they don't look exactly like how they might have been written in the original books. With Scobell, Riordan noted, "Did I care that his hair is a different color than what is described in the book? Not at all. He just felt like Percy.” With Simhadri's Grover, Riordan similarly added, "Does he look exactly like I describe him in the book? No. That doesn’t matter." "Leah impressed me from the moment I met her. She has that sort of steel that makes her a leader, but there’s a bit of vulnerability to her," the author went on to say about Jeffries. “Now, again, does she look like Annabeth looks in the books? No. Was that important to me? No. If anything, it was a massive benefit to broaden the cast in terms of representation.” It would be worst if like films 1- Luke was idiot 2-Poseidon spoke in Percy 's mind 3-Percy and Annabeth having 0 chemistry 4-Annabeth and Clarisse merged 5-No Ares 6-Hephaestus walking without limp 7-Poseidon exposing his divine form to a fisherman in beginning of film , there was lightning seen at beginning yet Zeus thought there's no Thunder . Poseidon thought Zeus was omnipotent 8-Percy giving Luke his scar And many others

[@_-drowsy-_]

I know this guy is awesome

[@catesimms8945]

I love coming to listen to him because I feel like him because everyone else people are saying it is a great TV Show but I am like there is so much wrong For me the best part have been Ares and Hephaestus Only thing I do not agree is Hermes. I do not know why but Lin as Hermes I do not feel it

[@mitsuri3096]

I think those youtubers are paid to say lies

[@BlazeDupree1525]

Mythology guy and the Dom are calling the show out as it is. And honestly I appreciate them as a long time fan of PJO.

[@lelegus7732]

What I loved the most about the original scene was how the traps SHOWED us something about the characters, their desires and personalities. The only thing this episode evoked in me was a reminder of how going to the underworld became way easier after Nico appeared.

[@Urekyu]

If they ever get a season 3 they will immediately reveal Nico's crush and make him a token character. Just make him a stereotypical goth gay boy. Because that's definitely who he was in the books /s.

[@johnyshadow]

@@Urekyu Oh gods no...

[@lt3746]

@@UrekyuConsidering that even in the books the way that was handled is off, it will probably be 100 times worse in the show

[@ianbrudnakvoss3126]

@@lt3746 I felt the same way but I'm not quite sure why, what exactly was off about it?

[@tufab3494]

Você diz a cena original no filme ou no livro?

[@ritzee13]

I wish more kids were in the casion wearing different era clothing. It lost its whimsical-ness when they put so many adults in the casio.

[@lv4715]

At least there were cars of different eras in the parking lot. BUT NO ONE POINTS IT OUT SO WHATS THE POINT

[@ritzee13]

@lv4715 also most people and especially kids don't know much about different era cars. Showing eras in clothes is a better option.

[@lv4715]

@@ritzee13 Exactly. I could only tell cause there was a ford from the 1940's there. And then i realized some older cars. It's a nice easter egg... which would have been better if it was explained the way the books did it.

[@randomericthings7506]

The Percy Jackson fans have the complete opposite of Star Wars fans. Percy Jackson fans are too loyal to criticize Rick Riordan. Star Wars fans criticize George Lucas too much.

[@Brick_One_A_Lego_Story]

Could you say that it's their fatal flaw? :)

[@pablolacalle6098]

Yeah good point. I'm generalizing here but with some people I desperately need them to demand more from this show. This episode in particular is a dud, but apparently because "Luke confirmed Percabeth" and "OMG you can hear a voice say 'Bianca' for a microsecond" its perfect 😭

[@salarzx62090]

Nah, Lucas deserves all the criticism he gets. For the prequels at least

[@mt0881]

I'm glad for your honest criticism. Most of the PJO fandom views any sort of criticism as racist or being whiny when there are valid criticisms

[@x-Abraham-x2]

I have yet to see the show but honestly people are just loving it for this Percy x Annabeth ship😂 I honestly wish Annabeth was blonde but hey

[@bluekrazykris]

@@x-Abraham-x2I wished all the characters looked like their book counterparts

[@x-Abraham-x2]

@@bluekrazykris I agree!

[@samueltitone5683]

@@bluekrazykrisForget Annabeth, how is Luke supposed to be remotely threatening when the others learn he’s evil?

[@theanimeunderworld8338]

Like how Annabeth's actress isn't doing well and people are thinking you're racist when it's just bad directions and line delivery from the production team

[@SebasTian58323]

I'd say that-given Rick said the series was going to be loyal to the books-it's perfectly fine to expect it to be loyal to the books.

[@Jake-lc1lh]

YES. THIS PARTICULARLY. If he didn't LIE TO US, and instead said "Yeah this isn't the book, it's a re-write. Don't expect it to be the book," then I would have been way less angry than I am now.

[@fanficlover]

What's funny is that even youtubers focused around book adaptation like the dom have basically decided that it's not really an adaptation but rather a reboot of the franchise for TV.

[@ianbrudnakvoss3126]

Rick did say there was stuff he wanted to revisit and revise after 20 years, which some parts of the book needed, so idk why everyone is so surprised. Not that I'm excusing ep5, they could've had Ares just not specify which casino and have them get drawn into and stuck at the Lotus and add on the meeting with Hermes for after they escape.

[@fanficlover]

@@ianbrudnakvoss3126 Most people are surprised much like how TMG said in his video that the show was being touted as an accurate and faithful to the book adaptation and not as essentially a reboot of the books for Television.

[@ianbrudnakvoss3126]

@@fanficlover ik but there was a warning and, to clarify what I meant, we got a taste of how much might change with just the first two episodes, so why are people STILL surprised? The debut itself should've stripped away the hype, and this was bound to happen considering who's making it. I'm impressed it took this long for another episode to completely bomb, it's still better than most everything Disney has forced out recently.

[@Jake-lc1lh]

What needed revising? I strongly disagree. @@ianbrudnakvoss3126

[@brucebane5043]

Just goes to show that just bc u have the original author working on a show doesn’t mean their talent translates to other mediums. Plus executives & writers might change stuff bts as well

[@washiestwheel799]

My favorite example of a situation like this is how the original creator of Kratos hates the character development he received in the Norse games even tho the new Kratos is objectively better than he was

[@centuritron]

I feel like Clarisse being blamed for stealing the bolt could also push her harder on her quest in the next season to prove to everyone she is indeed on the side of the Camp

[@jackwriter1908]

True and it also fits with her character since she doesn't really tell people that she cares about them too.

[@SupremPyro]

what i´m questioning is why clarisse? i mean yeah ares protects the thief but they still assume hades has the bold why would hades chose a dauther of the worst olympian to steal the bold

[@jackwriter1908]

@@SupremPyro well... 12 year olds aren't the brightest... But it would still work. Clarisse is the daughter of Ares. She wants to impress Ares. So she steals the master bolt to create a conflict. Ares finds out she has the bolt and tells no-one so War does happen... What I am more confused about is them not questioning Ares more. Wouldn't there be the possibility of Ares having the Master Bolt? Was the Prophecy changed from the books, otherwise I am even more confused. Because... Hello?! (Though it is a nice touch of having more gods they meet, through that even if you want to try to understand the Prophecy you would have a harder time... if they would have fucking used that!)

[@SupremPyro]

@@jackwriter1908 my point is not clarisse doing it. What I'm question is the connection to hades that throws me off

[@jackwriter1908]

@@SupremPyro like I said 12 year olds aren't the smartest... they believe hades has the Bolt. They find out Ares found the thief and let them go. So it must be someone who he would want to protect, if he kept it a secret. I mean the connection between other Halfbloods and Deities aren't questioned either... Working for Hades would actually make the most sense. After all he has influence in the underworld. He could probably assure that you get into Elysium no matter what...

[@gaiusfulmen]

Another strange thing is that if they're already past the deadline, why hasn't Zeus started nuking the eastern seaboard? The whole reason there was a deadline in the first place was Zeus pridefully demanding his bolt back "by this date or else." Neither Poseidon nor Zeus seem humble enough to set aside their beef like this.

[@tashumash-up8972]

Yea I hope they do something interesting with that change

[@TiredMoonRabbit]

There prepping for war now I think, they probably shifted it up to add more tension, hearing "your out of time" is more thrilling than " your about to be out of time" but it will most likely not change much.

[@TheFerrett3]

I swear, any trio in the last 2 decades has had its "best friend" character neutered in movies

[@ninjaslayer3814]

One thing at the end, when Percy gets 4 pearls instead of 3 as in the book. She literally tells Percy to save his mother rather than making the choice while talking to Hades as in the books. Doesn't let Percy's character show through. 😢

[@spencerwillmoth5456]

This show hates dilemmas doesn't it

[@syegfryedhellscream9508]

No, but you see, this is an IMPROVED version of the books, this is how riordan see the history for modern times

[@theanimeunderworld8338]

My guess is Percy will lose one next episode Maybe Grover loses his due to ####

[@spencerwillmoth5456]

@@syegfryedhellscream9508 please tell me you are joking

[@syegfryedhellscream9508]

@@spencerwillmoth5456 i wish i was brother, but this is the excuse people are using, even the show creators. You can find interviews of Riordan and his wife saying that, truly sad

[@Cement_Balloon]

My first sentence after watching was "wtf was that?"

[@skinnylifter]

The fact this episode makes me want to rewatch the movie is... concerning, to say the least.

[@The-Local-Sad-]

Yeah that’s very concerning- but I feel the same-

[@tami7992]

Very concerning but same here

[@runningthemeta5570]

Man this show is so tragic, like it could be so much better but its a shame that it has so far only had two good episodes so far. Makes me wonder if season 2 is even going to be a possibility.

[@theanimeunderworld8338]

Terrible pacing, exposition dump lines, 8 episode, practically 35 minutes of ACTUAL footage each episode, and not being animated are the biggest weaknesses

[@VERsingthegamez]

Considering its ratings, d+ bleeding subscribers, Disney under multiple lawsuits in Florida, lack of word of mouth, and people knowing about the show, I saw highly unlikely. But this is Disney we are talking about. Reacher s2 blew it out of the water completely.

[@limkailuen3022]

I think one other comment says it best , all this series had to do was be better than the movie to be “ successful “ The show runners really just tried to hit with the minimum criteria , before just packing it up

[@SirsasthNigam.]

On the review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes, 96% of 55 critics' reviews are positive, with an average rating of 7.5/10. The website's consensus reads: "A faithful adaptation of Rick Riordan's novels, Percy Jackson and the Olympians is a lovingly realized odyssey through adolescence and myth." With the new cast, Riordan feels that everyone involved is "perfect," even if they don't look exactly like how they might have been written in the original books. With Scobell, Riordan noted, "Did I care that his hair is a different color than what is described in the book? Not at all. He just felt like Percy.” With Simhadri's Grover, Riordan similarly added, "Does he look exactly like I describe him in the book? No. That doesn’t matter." "Leah impressed me from the moment I met her. She has that sort of steel that makes her a leader, but there’s a bit of vulnerability to her," the author went on to say about Jeffries. “Now, again, does she look like Annabeth looks in the books? No. Was that important to me? No. If anything, it was a massive benefit to broaden the cast in terms of representation.” It would be worst if like films 1- Luke was idiot 2-Poseidon spoke in Percy 's mind 3-Percy and Annabeth having 0 chemistry 4-Annabeth and Clarisse merged 5-No Ares 6-Hephaestus walking without limp 7-Poseidon exposing his divine form to a fisherman in beginning of film , there was lightning seen at beginning yet Zeus thought there's no Thunder . Poseidon thought Zeus was omnipotent 8-Percy giving Luke his scar And many others

[@FranBattery95]

Not really. At this point the movie is more enjoyable. At least that movie focused in being fun

[@Legacysong2012]

Every single episode is better than anything that was in the movies

[@fakeaccount9046]

@Legacysong2012 True , except for the latest one , the movie arguably did it much better than the series . But if the movie were to not exist at all , I’m sure that the fans would bash this series for its inaccuracy and unfaithfulness to the books even more than they are now . The show producers used the horrible movie to their advantage , as a shield against potential backlash and criticism from the fans . By being just slightly better than the films

[@bryangarcia5207]

​@fakeaccount9046 at the very least by S3 they won't have anything to hide behind

[@ZeldaLilly330]

Imagine if this show was your first time experiencing the series. You'd either be (1) confused why there's so much emphasis on a character you hardly met, or (2) you'd easily figure out he's the traitor, because why else would they try so hard to explain why this character you'd hardly met hates the gods so much.

[@Zealous_Delusional]

Pumping the flower stuff into the air had so much potential. Like, Percy could’ve found an awesome water park and spent so long underwater the effects wore off and he has to navigate his drugged up friends out. There could’ve been a moment where he can leave without his friends and he doesn’t even consider it and goes back to help them.

[@tami7992]

Omg that would've been such a good addition, I'm disappointed they didn't do that

[@lenastorm6280]

Omg yes!!

[@silverslayer6262]

Least this time, everyone agrees that this was the weakest. Even Movieflame hated it (Tho at least we had a small Di Angelo siblings cameo)

[@piercelindenberg6842]

Barely. You don’t see them, but you can hear them.

[@silverslayer6262]

@@piercelindenberg6842 Hence why I said small, or is minuscule more accurate?

[@denjidenji9162]

They had a cameo? I was looking for them but totally missed it, where were they?

[@piercelindenberg6842]

@@denjidenji9162 at the 12:30 mark of the episode. If you listen to the background noise instead of the characters, you can hear a little kid calling Bianca’s name.

[@DiceFTW273]

​@@piercelindenberg6842 Eh, makes sense. They don't show up until Book 3 and they wouldn't want to have to change actors... And it's cheaper (read lazier) to have a random voice.

[@istegosaurus4907]

I've started calling the show "Walker Scobell: The Lightning Theif" because of how unfaithful to the books it is

[@spencerwillmoth5456]

LOL Imma use that to refer to this show from now on

[@istegosaurus4907]

@@spencerwillmoth5456 well to add on, I refer to the characters as their actor names lmao

[@spencerwillmoth5456]

@@istegosaurus4907 lol

[@braden9294]

I call it the Peter Johnson show. Dionysus was right

[@geniusgamerr4517]

I called it Pussy Jackson and the Annabeth show, because it seem like Annabeth was given more agency than Percy.

[@YUMMSMOREZ-ec1sv]

When even movie flame said it was bad I couldn’t wait for this video

[@darthseverus9462]

Who here is willing to bet actual money that Disney is going to rehash the "Evil Hades" trope?

[@benjalucian1515]

Please no!!! I hated that they keep equating Hades with evil/Devil.

[@writeowls]

I mean Athena is evil Hermes is evil Almost all gods are evil So yeah he is going to be the evil kidnapper who hates everyone 😒

[@mirmir0003]

good news

[@_jpg]

​@@mirmir0003 [Spoiler] Good news indeed, they didn't went for the God of the Dead = evil trope Bad news...they made him...idk, a joke? I mean, yes, he is relatively calm in comparison to the other gods, but like that? In the books he had absolutely no reason to be this patient. At least to me the episode didn't really get the feeling that he was in charge of the plane of existence they are in. He seems just like a harmless guy who happens to be in the palace. Not even really in charge of that situation, he went from "I know exactly why you're here" to "...what?" in seconds, before Percy suddenly had that spontaneous revelation, who actually pulls the strings, and Hades coming up with a totally bonkers plan. Yes, he wants to sit out the crisis in the Underworld in the books as well, but that is after Kronos obviously becomes a threat, not just because a 12 year old boy makes wild accusations. Hades would never ever risk to take the master bolt and start another war with Zeus, just because of the suspicion that Kronos *could* be back.

[@benjalucian1515]

@@mirmir0003 Very.

[@FrozenPatty]

rick riordan's resentment of the movies is destroying this series

[@garethroberts2738]

Thann you. I'm also sick of them going into situations entirely aware of who they are up against as it removes all sense of suspense and tension. Whilst yes the characters should be aware of myths such as Medusa, part of the appeal of the series is how those myths were then adapted to modern times accordingly. Which should be enough reason for the characters not to immediately work things out.

[@theanimeunderworld8338]

The movies sadly did it better A garden statue shop was a good blend for Medusa but no...Exposition-Annabeth calls out Medusa Rather than slowly building up to the reveal

[@longforgotten4823]

Remember, Disney is a solace empire and their audiences treated like idiots. Consume product do not think.

[@_jpg]

I've watched episode 7, hoping they would at least do justice to Crusty 😞

[@rileybriggs5494]

Before when is watched your review and you said "I dont like it when they explain everything right then and there" i was like wait what where. Then when I heard one of the characters just drop the explanation of the lotus hotel right away I said "oh i see it now"

[@richardchisenhall387]

I mean, if a 24 year old sayter who lived his whole life in that world can't immediately tell you the lotus casino is connected to the lotus eaters of mythology, I'd question why they brought him at all. Percy was learning about Greek mythology in school and I knew about the lotus eaters by his age

[@tufab3494]

I still don't understand why tf Hermes was included in this story (as the only thing he does in this first book is delivering the head to the Olympus), even less why he is such a douche. Didn't like it, they invested time in Hermes and that random satyr and ended up not showing people stuck there since the 70s, Anabeth falling for the games, etc etc.

[@theanimeunderworld8338]

They could have just talked about the golden apples quest and how Luke got his scar, not his mom

[@noahme4eva]

OK, but how does the story about the scar help us understand why Luke is mad at the gods. If we set up that he had a conflict with Hermes, because of his mom earlier, he becomes more sympathetic. As opposed to how it is in the books, we don’t really learn why he turned against the gods until the final book chapters before Percy is supposed to kill him. So I find the changes necessary, because we need to understand why Luke is going to turn against the gods. Also, Luke is a foil to Percy Percy in his relationship with his mother, and father is complicated, but Luke is even more so and tragic and that’s why he’s the villain. Not knowing that again literal chapters before Percy and Annabella is supposed to kill him Mount Olympus to me is poor, writing, and pacing on Rick’s part. Five books in and we don’t know the villains motivation, true motivation until the final chapters. That’s the problem so I appreciate the show for changing things. Is the show perfect but who cares we got an adaptation that’s a reimagining of the story. Like if you want the original story, go read the books go read the graphic novel go watch the shitty movies. The patient is still out there. This isn’t the only way to experience these characters. Hell there’s probably fanfic that’s better than the books and this show go find it go enjoy that.

[@geniusgamerr4517]

@@noahme4evaok troll

[@johnyshadow]

@@noahme4eva The apple quest was important. He risked his life doing something that´s already been done before, and pretty much all he got was a pat on the back and "good job kid. Next!" (i can´t remember that well, it´s been years since I read it.)

[@evillittlegoat8338]

@@geniusgamerr4517 They have a point though with the whole "we need to understand Luke's motivations" part. It was a good idea to get Luke's mother involved already so we get the parallel between Luke and Percy. While I don't think it was so bad that Rick only included it in the last book, it makes sense to include it in the show this early, especially since we don't know if we actually get 5 seasons.

[@alyx8815]

I was a huge fan of this show despite the problems, but this episode was the one that took me out of the magic. Like, I havent read the books in a while so I forgot a lot of elements so some changes i didn't notice at all as i just was remembering the basic structure and the core of it. But this episode ruined many core parts of the story. Even without reading the books in years, i still knew that the summer solstice change with the war was the dumbest thing and that having 4 pearls instead of 3 completely messes up the story and theme. Also, the subplot of Clarisse being the thief is meaningless and takes away from the important parts. Also, for the lotus casino, if they wanted to tie in Hermes being there, have them get lured in search of him there but they get trapped (something similar to how Grover got trapped) then have the reveal of time working differently there with how it was revealed in the books. If they wanted the reveal of it being pumped in the air, have it be like a humidifier system (Fits with the location). After Percy finds out about the person from decades ago, he notices all the lotus symbols and connects it to the oddysey, but say something about how he didnt eat anything with the lotus flower. He then investigates and notices the humidity (Water powers) and how the water from the humidifier is lotus flower water or something.

[@spencerwillmoth5456]

I honestly think its really dumb that Annabeth was able to steal from Hermes, like Athena got mad that Annabeth was involved in sending madusa's head to her and the other gods, and then Hermes just doesn't care at all about getting his stuff stolen when he was also trying to make their quest harder by wasting their time, it makes no sense, if he wanted them to use his car couldn't he give them his keys? Anyway that was my rant and other then that I 100% agree with you

[@Legacysong2012]

She was able to steal from Hermes because he knew she was stealing. Gods can’t directly interfere, remember, so Hermes can be like “well she took my keys, I didn’t give it to her, shame that I am indirectly helping them.”

[@spencerwillmoth5456]

@@Legacysong2012 I guess, BUT they could have used the grey sister's taxi cab instead so it's still dumb because he was just making their quest harder by wasting their time and then helps them

[@Sinix946]

@@spencerwillmoth5456that was in the second book right so that would Have just Been weird in the long run

[@OptimusPhillip]

@@spencerwillmoth5456 The Chariot of Damnation only service the Greater New York area. At least, that's how it was in the book. For all I know, the show version could end up serving the entire northeast or something.

[@spencerwillmoth5456]

@@OptimusPhillip I'm gonna be honest I forgot about that detail of the Chariot

[@chordalharmony]

I can now unironically say the movie did it better. I’ve never hated a sentence more.

[@tami7992]

Same here. This show makes me want to rewatch the first movie in an unironic way and that concerns me

[@taqresu5865]

Oh I can't wait to see your Episode 7 review for a few fairly particular reasons. I'm still mulling over my thoughts on it, as I just watched it myself mere moments ago.

[@ShorseyCakes]

I think you nailed the main issue with the TV show. They are not organically falling into these scenarios. They are instantly being told about the traditional Greek mythology about the situation. They are supposed to be going on this adventure of discovery but instead the adults just seem to be telling them where and how they need to go places. The gray sisters taxi drive was the best. Also why is Kronos being introduced so early

[@ravenderose]

I hate to say it but every time I watch this show I think of how much better the movie did it. The lotus scene was personally my favorite and perfectly executed from the movie, and I wish the show did it more justice

[@TheBedrockMaster]

I’m pretty sure Annabeth is the main character

[@The-Local-Sad-]

Yeah, it’s not even Percy anymore 😭

[@Jake-lc1lh]

Wonder why...

[@The-Local-Sad-]

@@Jake-lc1lh it’s definitely because Disney is doing the terrible strong females

[@piercelindenberg6842]

They pumped the lotus smell into the air in the book too, but it was a throwaway line before they realized the hotel was a trap.

[@NinetailMini]

I also hated this episode. One of my most hated scenes was when Percy leaves Hermes and come back on screen with annabeth. Then proceeds to dump exposition that Hermes, apparently, gave him off screen. Now the main character is getting info that we, the audience, are not privy to. That sets a bad standard. Also, the pacing of this show is so bad, that when they told us how much time had passed I wasn't sure why I should care. I have read the books, so I knew why it mattered, but the show just casualy dropped that more time had passed then they thought and all I could think was "and I should care why?" lol

[@loganjoh1]

If this show wasn’t based on the books I probably would’ve given up on it after how boring this episode was. I am hanging onto that hope that either the last 2 episodes or next season can right the ship get back to being an actual adaptation of the books. I remember Rick was saying how accurate to the books this series would be yet it deviates so much for most no reason. I was cool with change but this amount of change is a lot and this show doesn’t even have the same feel of the book. I want this series to succeed but hope is slipping by the episode.

[@calebmcclure3893]

I gave up after episode 3, and based on the reviews of the following episodes, I don’t regret it

[@TiredMoonRabbit]

Maybe it's accurate in the sense of foresight, like if he were to do the first book again with knowledge about where he was going to take things, it would be the same but also different.

[@loganjoh1]

Except when Rick first announced this show book accuracy was a main selling point. If he wanted this to be its own thing he should’ve just said that. Also a lot of these changes are significantly worse than the book it’s almost like the books were popular for a reason. The amount of tell don’t show in this series is infuriating to me. The amount of just killing tension before it even builds is just bad writing. Just because Rick is approving something doesn’t mean it was the right move he isn’t perfect and we should be able to question his decisions just like we do with his books.

[@TiredMoonRabbit]

@@loganjoh1 I don't think we can say the changes are worse until the entire series is over, mainly because we don't fully know we're things are going, but on the writing thing I can agree mostly, when a writer gets brought on to work on a show or movie this tends to happen sense in books you can direct a readers attention to something easier than in a visual medium which can lead to them writing stilted dialog in an attempt to add back in stuff that the author sees as important, obviously there are better ways to do that though.

[@_jpg]

Have you watched EP7? 😅

[@strandy4256]

Dude thank you for an actual review of this. The whole show has been rough and it’s so annoying that other people are too rose tinted glasses about this. Not been impressed

[@calebmcclure3893]

So true

[@TiredMoonRabbit]

As someone with no rose tinted glasses, I think the show is fine, yall will probably be able to see that more when looking back on the series as a whole in the future, right now it's a game of comparison and disappointment that things are different as well as a bit of actual warranted criticism in the mix.

[@emerald_sustrai2002]

​@@TiredMoonRabbiti respect you're opinion 👌

[@Mialikesthings]

@@TiredMoonRabbitI’m confused here though a show should does not become good when it is finished.This really has not happened to shows at all there have been cases with shows get better but the show does not seem to be taking any criticism and rather seems to take the praises. I don’t think the show is awful but it is definitely not good.

[@gtdc4685]

@TiredMoonRabbit I think that’s fair, I think some PJO fans are starting to give the movies a second chance

[@BradExists]

Bro the Driving scene was more dramatic than every monster fight so far.

[@_jpg]

The first scene of episode 7 was really hilarious. Because of good writing you ask me? Hah, of course not. It's because of the terrible pacing, which even got forced into the dialogue: Percy: *confidently enters the mattress shop* Hello, Procrustes Crusty: Uh, hey, could you please call me Crust- Percy: Yeah, whatever, I know everything about you and how you unalived travellers. Crusty: W-would you like to try one of my beds? Percy: *looks at him with suspicion* [Haven't you heard what I just said?] No, anyways, I need to get quickly to the Underworld and we know here's an entrance, so just tell me where it is. Crusty: Please, the beds are really comforta- Percy: Oh gods, just shut up. Annabeth? Push him. I honestly start to feel bad for the "threats" the trio encounters, they just get finished off within seconds...poor Crusty, trying to be a memorable part of the show 😮‍💨

[@The_D0C70R]

I'm going to be honest (and people might hate me for this take): the Lotus Casino scene was done better in the movie. Of course, the mystery being ruined by Poseidon's telepathic message to Percy was bad, but the buildup and mystery not even existing in the first place is worse. They go in knowing it's dangerous and already on guard. In the movie they were eating the lotus cakes, which was a well thought out change from the book and made the scene more accurate to the original myth. The lotus infused air was also a change from the book... but it just wasn't good, unlike the change in the movie it was not an improvement and overall just unnecessary. The big loss here, the big thing I hoped the show would avoid losing, is the scene of Percy figuring out what's going on by himself. Instead, Hermes just tells Percy about the lotus essence, which is just as bad as the Poseidon telepathy when it comes to ruining the mystery/buildup. I also did not care for them missing the deadline and getting four pearls. This is a SIGNIFICANT plot change from the books, and I do not see ANY potential benefit coming from these changes. I hate to say it, but Rick approving these changes does not make them good. I'm aware that his influence on the show is most likely what's keeping the plot from straying too far off the path set by the books, but that doesn't mean the man never makes mistakes.

[@velvetpastry]

I WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree and personally I haven’t heard or seen any of the book readers say that they actually LIKE the changes in the show and I don’t imagine that it’ll improve which is a real shame

[@tami7992]

I agree to every point you said

[@beastlymarek]

Bringing up Luke’s mother does make me concerned that there will not be a sea of monsters season, or any others though

[@theanimeunderworld8338]

They could have focused on the golden apple quest Hermes sent Luke on and got his scar but no...

[@ItsDagar]

@@theanimeunderworld8338exactly my thoughts, if they wanted to focus on Luke backstory why not do that setting up his hatred for the gods? Instead they talk about something that we shouldn’t know about at all till the last season

[@aprilhippie8752]

​@@theanimeunderworld8338Luke doesn't even have a scar 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@_jpg]

​@@aprilhippie8752 Actually he does, but it's so faint, that I understand why you forgot it 😅

[@johnathanholmes1297]

I have to say, I thought it was alright with a feel of disappointment. The only thing about the casino that I enjoy was the idea they fill the room with a lotus scent. That is it. The book casino sound so fun and a place I want to go even if it means I will be there forever. Arcades, free services, wall climbing, and holographic building designs. The casino captured everything for kids and adults. Instead, we only have VR (which I hate as well), restaurants, and gambling table. Make it feel like a normal ass Casino than a magical entrapment.

[@danielburkovskij9825]

hello mythology guy, I just wanted to say thank you because I only knew Percy Jackson as a film, your videos made me aware of the comics and the books. I'm a big fan of Greek mythology and finding out that something like that exists is just wonderful. so thank you again.

[@jannismueller2586]

When percy said: theyre pumping the lotus flowers into the air I had to stop, turn to my sister and say: where did he get that from? Thats so random!

[@Outrage777]

I have an Idea on what Rick was thinking. Ok so Rick was furious with the movie right so he most likely didn’t want the show’s hotel scene to be not like the movie so he decided to change it a bit maybe but he changed core parts that were in the book that made the hotel good and he made us all hate this episode. I also think that this episode especially was really a letdown but I have high hopes for the next episode.

[@TiredMoonRabbit]

I thought I heard from Dom that this episode took elements from the movie though?

[@Outrage777]

Huh

[@TiredMoonRabbit]

@@Outrage777 the cookies and the car

[@Outrage777]

@@TiredMoonRabbit okay

[@bonrex2390]

Rick and Disney changed the core part of a lot of things in the show. This does not get talked about nearly enough, but it was Rick who wanted to change Medusa's backstory from the book to the show. I am quoting Steinberg here: “Try to put yourself in his shoes: He wrote a book and then wrote so many more books and that universe exploded and he never got a second shot,” says Steinberg...He took some pleasure, I think, in being able to have another go and think about how he would write the story again if he had a do-over.” Rick also weighs in on this by saying: "As a 12-year-old boy in 2005, I don’t think he had the bandwidth for deconstructing the patriarchy. He was looking at it as, ‘This is a scary woman who’s trying to turn me into stone.' " So a lot of the changes were approved by Rick simply because he wanted to have another go at it for whatever reason. Sad to say but he is, at least in part, choosing to ignore accuracy for the sake of putting a spin on the mythology he used for his books. God knows what other changes were approved by him but man this is really sad.

[@xscape1749]

I think most of the problems you talked about could just be boiled down to them not having enough time to really explore or show details. One of the people involved with the show came out and spoke about how next season they could work on including things they didn’t really have the time to include in the 1st one. TV used to be 24 eps and 20 min long runtime with the amount of episodes making up for short runtime, but with streaming it became 8 eps with 45-60 minute runtime with the length in episode time making up for the lack of episodes, but with this series it’s 8 eps with 30-40 (including credits) which just seems like Disney is just doing them a great disservice especially when you consider that Marvel Live action shows had like 40-60 minute runtimes, so Idk why Disney couldn’t do it for PJO. Showing instead of telling takes time, time they didn’t have. On the matter of this episode as much as I really don’t like admitting, someone mentioned that Rick must’ve hated the movie so bad that instead of realizing they may have did something’s right , and taking inspo from there, he just went in a completely different direction to avoid that, and I think they had a point.

[@inviz835]

I hope the PJ show gets renewed for another season. But Rick hopefully takes the criticism and fixes a bunch of problems with S1. It could even be a whole thing with the marketing, saying the show will be better than S1, we saw your criticism and now were fixing it. Come watch S2. That way, people that dropped the show can come back and gi e it another chance. Personally, although most people say the 2nd book is the most boring, that was the first book Percy became my favourite character even moving into HOO. So I hope they get it right.

[@geniusgamerr4517]

Nah Riordan ego won’t let him improve, I see how he deal with criticism

[@lost_age777]

@@geniusgamerr4517ugh 😢 i rlly hope OP is right

[@gtdc4685]

I remember reading Sea of Monsters and thinking it was better than the Lightning Thief. However: 1. It’s been years since I’ve read it so I might have a different perspective when I reread it 2. When people say it’s the worst book they mean “All PJO books are great but SoM is the least great”

[@maggiesheartlove2734]

Another issue I take with this show: it's not nearly as fun as the book. The show is trying so hard to make everything so serious, I mean when did we see any of the kids crack a smile? Most of the time they're all with perpetual frowns, mainly Annabeth. She was snarky, sure, but i don't recall her being so stoic. She was sassy and expressive. When I read the book it really felt like I was on an adventure with friends because it was witty and fun as well as being suspenceful. This show's atmosphere is trying way too hard to be 'deep and serious' which feels wrong to me. At least the Sea of Monsters got some lf the tone from the books right. Lastly, would it kill Disney to add a bit more vibrance to the shots? So much of it looks muddy and graying.

[@benjalucian1515]

They're on a quest to save the Olympians from destroying each other and maybe the world. Their enemies are tracking them and wanting to kill them if they get a chance. What part of this quest is fun and adventurous?

[@dailyplanet354]

​@@benjalucian1515It was in the books. And the performances in the serious Moments are horribly dull. Example: Percy reacting to his mothers dissapearing, Percy reacting to his fall from the Missouri's Arch.

[@benjalucian1515]

@@dailyplanet354 No I don't remember them having a lot of fun. They were always on the run, avoiding monsters. Maybe YOU did have fun as the reader, absorbed in the wonder of their universe, but in reality, it would be like you trying to walk across the Serengeti with only a sword to protect you from the wild animals there.

[@queenamphitrie1278]

⁠@@benjalucian1515Um I remember them having fun in the books

[@xxTheTruMan196]

@@benjalucian1515 here's a passage from the book that shows the characters did, indeed, actually have fun: Grover was eating potato chips to his heart's content, while Annabeth cranked up the National Geographic Channel. "All those stations," I told her, "and you turn on National Geographic. Are you insane?" "It's interesting." "I feel good," Grover said. "I love this place." Without his even realizing it, the wings sprouted out of his shoes and lifted him a foot off the ground, then back down again. "So what now?" Annabeth asked. "Sleep?" Grover and I looked at each other and grinned. We both held up our green plastic LotusCash cards. "Play time," I said. I couldn't remember the last time I had so much fun. And then for another example that comes from the third book, do you remember when the whole group was making jokes about the Hoover Dam? I do, and it was funny.

[@josephmaller592]

A different KZbinr told me a very good quote that I do think is in this TV show and how people want to present their products to the customer. “It's more important that people perceive value than receive value”.

[@longforgotten4823]

It’s consumed product. That’s it

[@gandalfthewhite.5245]

Disney needs to explain how Percy Jackson, a show based on a 375 page kids book, with a 120 million dollar budget and around 5 hours of runtime roughly, is somehow a worse adaptation than LOTR rotk, the hunger games, Harry Potter, etc which each have lower budgets per movie with less than half the screen time on average, and have more complex and interesting source material.

[@Creterampage]

I hate to say this but the movie did somewhat better than the show. I agree they shouldn’t have had Poseidon just tell Percy not to eat the lotus cake, but everything else was good, as much as I hated the movie. I would also like to note that Percy, Annabeth, and Grover going on a quest to Lotus Hotel and Casino just defies the entire point of the book. In many Greek myths such as the Odyssey and Jason and the Argonauts, the hero runs into one obstacle after another on their way to their overall goal.

[@mygaaraofthedesert]

I haven't seen the show yet but this show is making me wonder if Percy Jackson should be adapted to screen at all and it's really sad because the book series is really good

[@Outrage777]

It should I love this show just go in with low expectations and high ones after episode 3

[@islasullivan3463]

Show is also really good but you have to accept that it’s not following the book word for word scene for scene.

[@dailyplanet354]

​@@islasullivan3463 But us also making way too many mistakes, it's too rushed. And, for some weird reason, Grover is receiving the Ron Weasley character treatment. They've left him behind way too many times already.

[@longforgotten4823]

The pros, character development, lack of cohesive, narratives, in attentiveness to the actual story, lack of tension, etc. are all Disney tropes at this point. It’s not good folks. This is not how you make a story.

[@islasullivan3463]

Yes it is rushed due to the length of episodes and the short season, but while Percy and Annabeth do leave Grover behind the writers are giving him more such as him manipulating Ares using his emotional intelligence and giving a scene that shows the audience how much he wants to search for Pan, all of which add to his character that was more of a comic relief in the books.

[@travisbishop782]

Cerberus will be a chihuahua, i bet.

[@OptimusPhillip]

The thing that broke me was when the Nereid gave Percy four pearls. Completely undermines the big decision Percy makes at the end, unless they randomly lose one of the pearls, in which case it was pointless anyway, and really counterproductive to end an episode with it. I was almost tempted to drop the show after that, if i didn't have plans that required me to finish it.

[@tomhur1]

Another episode of Adaptation Sins?

[@OptimusPhillip]

​@@tomhur1 I can neither confirm nor deny that at this time.

[@TiredMoonRabbit]

Was there a reason posidon didn't give him four in the book? Because if not then it would kinda seem like an oversight, maybe they will lose it or maybe it will be used to bring someone else important back?

[@OptimusPhillip]

@@TiredMoonRabbit I'm guessing it's because Poseidon in the book didn't know that Sally was alive, and that Percy intended to rescue her. In the show, those are both treated as common knowledge, so I guess that was the rationale behind the change.

[@TiredMoonRabbit]

@@OptimusPhillip why wouldn't he know tho, he's a God and if my very very limited Greek/Roman mythology knowledge is correct isn't he also heavily connected to the underworld? I could be completely wrong here.

[@spidersmining20]

I agree its bad but cool fact: you can hear a boy in the background yell “BIANCA!!!!!!!” During the scene with grover in the vr

[@spencerwillmoth5456]

ok that's what people were talking about, I heard that they did a Deangilo reference but I didn't know where it was, thanks

[@spidersmining20]

In the same scene theres also a girl in a vr headset who is aiming a bow which could be bianca but im not sure because it was hard tk tell whether or not she was italian

[@Mary_Studios]

@@spencerwillmoth5456 There's also apparently people cheering Nico in the background as he wins a Mythomagic tournament.

[@spencerwillmoth5456]

@@Mary_Studios cool

[@randomgeekcrap]

Everything outside of the casino is good everything in the casino was bad next episode looks amazing hope it doesn't disappointe

[@dailyplanet354]

I firmly believe Rick Riordan hates Grover. That makes me sad.

[@The-Local-Sad-]

FR 😢

[@SleepyPotterFan]

Slow burn is like 90% of good television. I don’t buy the excuse of “it’s just a tv show” to accept lazy and bad writing, because then we wouldn’t have GOOD tv. And Luke’s slow burn is vital to his character arc. You’re supposed to get those insights later when he’s bad to help humanize him and make his finale so much more impactful. By season 5 is anyone going to remember or care that Hermes was sad about Luke in episode 6?

[@TheFallen292]

The best part of this episode was hearing Nico yelling for Bianca

[@mikew4022]

When was that? :)

[@TheFallen292]

@@mikew4022 I think when they first entered the casino

[@mikew4022]

@@TheFallen292 Okey, thanks :-)

[@dowuonaocquayeniid]

At the 12:30 mark in the episode​@@mikew4022

[@Jxnna152]

@@mikew4022i remember someone saying it was around 12 mins 30 secs

[@makouski266]

If the quest was over before they even got to the underworld... THEN PERCY SHOULD BE DEAD, Percy can't possibly escape Zeus' wrath at this point, Monsters would be crawling from every hole in the earth just to kill this small twelve year old... not to mention the Earth should be in turmoil from the WAR BETWEEN THE OLYMPIANS.

[@benjalucian1515]

Oh and if anyone ever watches British TV, their adaptions from books to TV/movies are usually very very close.

[@Mialikesthings]

Besides when it comes to Sherlock Holmes.

[@benjalucian1515]

@@Mialikesthings Which ones?

[@ZeroIsAGoat]

another banger from mythology guy, I gotta say. you inspire me dude. you make my day better every time I watch one of your videos. thank you mythology guy.

[@savannacasy]

Honestly when the movies so it better then the tv series. Like you can do a friendly casino and have fun but this is like trying to make a casino for someone who never been to a casino

[@gintoki_sakata__]

I wanna say "its not that deep bro. Chill" then i remembered im an anime fan and i be feeling like this in adaptations 😂 I like seeing passionate people getting annoyed 😂😂😂. Cos im one of them

[@dancingbaby69]

I have a theory that they spent so much money trying to get levitating in this episode that they didnt have any money to make the episode good

[@lewisbarclay9113]

Another channel pointed it that this episode was kind of like when you're going through a second playthrough of a game after already completing it....and watching it yeah that was the vibe I got.

[@9k49]

I actually kind of enjoyed the episode, I just didn’t like that Hermes tells Percy about the 5 days instead of Percy figuring it out. I hope episode 7 is better, if it has both the underworld and Ares duel it should be. I think it’s highly likely Clarisse being blamed as the lightning thief is to set up a bigger conflict between her and percy in season 2

[@theanimeunderworld8338]

Crusty will be in it My guess is Ares fighting will be next week but we see him pull up in the end

[@Mary_Studios]

True though I thought that Percy briefly thought that Ares got Clariess to steal the bolt for him when they find out in the Movie and Ares looked amused.

[@9k49]

@@theanimeunderworld8338possible. It could end with confronting Ares then episode 8 is the duel, olympus and ‘betrayal’

[@TiredMoonRabbit]

He does figure it out though, all hermes says is that he doesn't have alot of time left.

[@skblo]

I made a video comparing the three different versions of the Lotus Casino. I found that the film version is closer to the books in terms of its tone and vibe, compared to the show's adaptation. The show's version is weird because they removed the suspense element by not having the characters figure out what's going on in the casino. Instead they either get told what's on or they already know it through exposition. My one gripe with the show so far is how short the episodes are. It feels like the recent episodes could each have an extra 10 minutes to flesh out the pacing, instead of rushing through the content.

[@super4469]

I was fine with some of the changes this episode but was upset at how little fun it it was. Like they are kids and are supposed to act like them so let them have fun like KIDS

[@spencerwillmoth5456]

Yeah they really but feel like kids in this show, they're just slightly more immature adults, or at least that's how it feels to me

[@RobinhoJr96]

ALWAYS HAPPY WHEN @MythologyGuy has uploaded a new video !

[@MikeJProto]

how did rick fuck this up so bad

[@TiredLex]

Problem is theres still so many book writers who can't seem to understand that screenplay is a totally different animal compared to writing a book.

[@jvlo07]

I don’t mind that Luke’s mom was brought up early in the series. I actually think it can work. My problem is that Annabeth shouldn’t be the one telling Percy, it should be Luke himself telling Percy. One problem I had even with the books was Percy and Luke’s friendship and wished that it could’ve been explored more in the show so the eventual reveal was more impactful. Hopefully the show isn’t another JK Rowling Fantastic Beasts situation. And yes the movie version of the casino was more fun.

[@Mialikesthings]

While it is not a problem this was not supposed to mentioned til the 2nd book all we knew about Luke’s past in the 1st book is about Luke and the apple journey thing,which resulted in his scar.This gives us understanding to why he hated the god.

[@AD-fl6vj]

I thought it would have been really cool to have when Percy discovery it like in the book instead of the guy from the 70s he could have talked to Nico DiAngelo and figure it out from there; he didn’t figure it out at all but that would’ve been a great way for a Nico cameo

[@The-Local-Sad-]

Yeah, but it would be weird (if it gets renewed for S3) Nico shows up a few years later looking older

[@beastlymarek]

I had a lot of problems at first, but after some rewatched I like it. The missing of the deadline isn’t gonna be that big a deal actually. My guess is the heroes are gonna be much tighter on the finish, stopping the war as it starts instead of before it does. My biggest hope for episode 7 is that hades has the Goldlike appearance of the books, and not just have him look like a human. If he turns into his human shape during the confrontation that’s fine, but I hope he at least starts out looking scary and huge

[@spencerwillmoth5456]

That makes less sense, the deadline was one of the biggest shows that the gods didn't care about people that much, because we knew if this war happened it would be the end of humanity or close to it, and making us believe that if they didn't get the bolt back to Zeus on time the gods would just end humanity in their petty war, its a trope but it was used well in PJO

[@darthcicc2857]

Personally I think they should have added a young brother and sister arguing or playing in the background wearing black with the sister being older and with a hat. (If anyone knows who I am talking about please comment their names) Answer: Nico and Bianca DeAngelo

[@Tzelofachad]

they were there lol

[@spencerwillmoth5456]

I didn't get this when I watched the episode but a kids yells Bianca when Percy and Annabeth are getting Grover out of the vr, I wished we got something like you said, but no, bare minimum effort reference

[@islasullivan3463]

^I mean it wouldn’t make sense to physically show them as they don’t show up til later and then we’d be wondering why these two look different or aged even though they were in the hotel. What they could have done was have Nico and/or Bianca’s name as a high scorer on one of the video games.

[@darthcicc2857]

@@islasullivan3463 true that would be neat

[@gtdc4685]

At 12:30 you can hear a young boy yelling his sister’s name in the background. “BIANCA”

[@unibunny0790]

My son had been so excited for this episode (hasn't read the books yet) because the idea sounded fun and a bit more relatable to the modern world - so didn't rely on me explaining who each mythological person was :) He just said 'meh' at the end'; it was weird, Lin Manuel wasn't used right (he can be so funny but was just sad here), pacing went out of the window again!! and no one had any time to work anything out for themselves. Plus Grover and Annabeth came off as just not acting well, weirdly feeling out of place and the story had no sense of urgency - we have been here too long 'oh well, we will carry on hi ho hi ho'. He has been enjoying the rest of the series and I think this was the first time where he was underwhelmed by what they have put out and not fussed about episode 7 coming out.

[@henlienr22]

one thing i hate about the show is that they portray percy as a stupid little boy that does really brave stuff and survives out of luck... in the books he usually survives because he is alot smarter than he lets off and read situations in a way no one else does not even annabeth see things that he sees... this annoys me

[@MeSoSoup252]

The coolest part was Nico calling out to Bianca

[@charliebear8017]

“BIANCA! BIANCA! BIANCAAAAA!” -little pip squeak Nico

[@commanderriptide7723]

Oh gods...how was the movie version better

[@MiguelPlata26]

With every episode we are forced to admit the movies were not actually that bad. Loved the Lotus scene of movie 1, and it was 10 times better than this lol. For me, it is clear, that despite being produced and written by Disney and Rick Riordan, it's not Canonical.

[@Persphone_cabin]

Been waiting for this!!

[@athenovae]

“They won’t mess up Hades. Nahhh” LMAOOO

[@fotiosvak2131]

This series is best when you've half forgotten the books

[@inert_cartha]

Another argument that gets me SEETHING is "well he's the author, he owns that universe, so he can do whatever he wants with it!!" I mean how much of a bootlicker do you have to be to say this Whenever you release a story, especially one that amassed a huge audience like this one, you're literally GIVING IT to your audience. The reader owns that story too, they ENTER that world, they get attached to the characters and the plot, empathize and identity with them At least I know I do??? Every book that I've read or tv show that I watched, EVERY STORY THAT I HAVE COME TO LOVE, has become a part of me and I a part of it Call me nerdy or sappy but that's the way I feel And I will forever hold a grudge against BR for basically saying "well Annabeth is not yours, we own the copyright so we do what we want" FUCK HEEEERRRRRRR LIKE WAY TO GO SHIT ON YOUR LOYAL READERS WHO KEPT THIS FUCKIN SERIES RELEVANT TO THE POINT DISNEY PICKED IT UP WAY TO GO RIORDANS

[@geniusgamerr4517]

Riordan is a such sell out

[@RobVil]

i look forward to your next vid, clearly you didnt see the teaser for the next episode :D

[@monkeybrain0212]

Yeah I had no idea how they made it worse than the movie version 😂 I do not remember the random satyr character in the casino. And his mention of Pan in the casino? Very glad that was just a false lead...phew

[@pogofgreed3707]

They should legit just rename the show Annabeth Chase. Percy seems like a side character lol

[@sepposnake7073]

they managed to somehow make this episode worse than the movie. WORSE THAN THE MOVIE

[@aguy6500]

an episode? and what movie? Percy jackson dosen't have a movie or a tv show

[@fredfazz67]

There was a pj move done in 2010

[@aguy6500]

@@fredfazz67 i was making a joke

[@BiasFree]

All they had to do was a simple adaption. I can't defend this one. And at risk of spoilers... why 4 pearls... they painted themselves into a corner .

[@Mary_Studios]

I saw people talking about how Percy is probably going to drop one some where and as a result he's going to have to choose if he saves his mother or not. Weather that's better or not I'm waiting for the next episode to see.

[@lost4tseas]

4 pearls cause in the book Percy didn’t know his mom was in the underworld. In the show he does know so why would he be given 3? Besides, judging from the preview he’s probably going to lose one anyway

[@BiasFree]

@aykut7488 but that's the entire point. They are introducing more unneeded steps. Why introduce an item to throw out away immediately. It's not good writing. They now either have to lose the pearl or give it away to someone else. Where as if they stuck with the book version they'd not have to draw attention to the fact they'd only 3 pearls and the problem presents itself naturally.

[@BiasFree]

I get there are ways around it but there they are introducing a solution before there's a problem, now they have to correct for the solution to make a new problem when it would have been simpler to just limit the amount of Pearls to begin with. @@Mary_Studios

[@lost4tseas]

@@BiasFree but again why would he be given 3 pearls if he knows his mom is in the underworld in the show? Poseidon giving him 4 shows that he cares for him and wants to save Sally and also builds that relationship between him and percy more. Also if he starts out with 4 and loses one and makes the choice to save his mom but then ends up being forced to leave without her (as seen in the preview), to me i think it makes it a lot more of a devastating and emotionally impactful moment for him. Cause he had the chance to save her and then tragically loses it rather than if he already had 3 pearls going in. personally I’m excited to see where they go with this new choice cause as a book reader i also get to feel the suspense and not know what’s gonna happen next.

[@jackwriter1908]

I think the change for the Lotus Hotel is good. The Lotuseater were quite famous in the myths and I would imagine that Chiron would teach/warn the people at Camp about the still existing dangers, especially if it is a known location. I'm a bit sad that we didn't get Percy figuring it out himself and kind of wish they would have a small scene where he discovers that they are pumping the Lotus into the air, instead of just telling us. Also... I mean let's be real having three kids walk into a random Casino and then are being drugged, would set the tone a bit... differently. So them going there to ask for help is something I like. And while it pains me to say it, it's probably better that Annabeth, Percy and Grover don't have access to a creditcard with _unlimited money!_ (please imagine the Emperors voice saying this). Though I still wish they would have given Lin Manuel the role of Apollo... just imagine him having to perform annoying rhymes that let you question if he really is the god of music. It would have been fun, since we know he should be able to perform since it's Lin Manuel, as well as Apollo... Overall so far I enjoyed all Episodes. They are different from the books, but what's the point of an adaptation if it's supposed to be a perfect copy of the book? Changes must be made, when the medium changes and I think we still have enough of the characters shining through while also having a new take on the story.

[@gtdc4685]

I disagree with everything you said. 1. The hotel lured them in by showing them everything they find fun 2. What’s the point of an adaptation if you’re not going to be accurate to the original source material?

[@winchesters4life34]

lin couldn't be Apollo because he's just not attractive enough.

[@Superjonny1104]

I always hated the argument that the movie or show should be one for one with the book some times changes can improve or add to the story. But there are times when it goes too far with changing the source material

[@crimsonarbiter5089]

I'm surprised you didn't bring up the ending with the nereid gave him four pearls instead of three