Percy Jackson Season 1 Episode 7 - TheMythologyGuy discusses

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[@TheMythologyGuy1]

I have no idea how this version of Hades can possibly fit in with what is supposed to happen later in the story regarding the Di Angelo family, his anger towards Zeus and the rest of his family, the oracle’s curse, etc. Are they going to change all of that as well?

[@ArmadilloTheGod]

I wouldn’t be surprised 💀💀💀

[@plantas007]

"they can't screw up Hades that badly" famous last words

[@pjo-fan]

I really agree with you for 50%. We did not have any influence on season 1 but our feedback can change season 2 + some changes are really good.

[@Creterampage]

Wouldn’t be surprised if they did also the Asphodel thing afaik is a Dante interpretation

[@Wolfgang595]

You assume this shitfest to put it bluntly is getting a third season frankly it getting two seasons is a stretch for me

[@tito2471]

I work at a school specifically for children with disabilities (mostly emotional and behavioral) but yes a child wandering is normal behavior for children with ADD or ADHD, and him being on the roof is 100% the schools fault. In fact , Percys mom would be able to report it to the school board and everyone who was watching him at that time would be fired. The fact a school like that would reject Percy is hilariously false as Percy’s symptoms are mild at least. We face 100% worse on a daily basis and never once do these kids get kicked out. And if needed it would be to another program possibly out of the city. Definitely not homeschooling.

[@benjalucian1515]

Or maybe Percy managed to get on the roof by climbing up the walls or dodging. Schools have many locked doors between the student areas and the roof. How did Percy get past them? That's not the school's fault. If someone REALLY wants to get past security they will. How did Percy get out from under a teacher's supervision? That is the school's fault. And the school just made up a reason to kick him out because he's a liability. Sally could sue but what would that get her? Percy still needs to go to school and no school will take him.

[@merlinrecon7528]

Percy symptoms is mild? What? He exploded a bus with a cannon and released shark in an aquarium, two accidents that endangered both himself and other kids

[@MeteoroNomy]

​@@merlinrecon7528 thats just his bad luck I dont think that is counted for his adhd

[@merlinrecon7528]

@@MeteoroNomy what? He literally admitted he wandering and tinkering with the cannon before he blew up the bus, he also admitted he pulled the lever on the shark aquarium. That’s not bad luck, that’s on him. His add and/or adhd is also the reason why he likes speed/stuff that goes fast (chariot races, skateboarding, shadow traveling, etc)

[@OptimusPhillip]

The show really defanged Percy's troubled past. In the book, Percy legitimately caused serious accidents at every school he attended prior to the series (or at least, that's what the Mist has people believe). The show, meanwhile, expects us to believe that Percy got sent to a school for troubled kids for having an overactive imagination.

[@bloodybee3553]

How to do Hades right Make a scary Villain, then take away the evil.

[@tami7992]

Couldn't agree more

[@thunderhunter4391]

My roommate had an idea, because I thought the house of Hades looked really boring without any gold or jewels, he said it may be because it is summer. That without Persephone there, hades is gloomy but in TLO when she is there the whole "god of riches" thing will come up and the underworld will look beautiful.

[@pablolacalle6098]

Thats a really good idea actually lmao, what a fun concept

[@dariovirga7711]

That's actually cute

[@sonofcronos7831]

I dont think the show will be smart enough to do that.

[@thunderhunter4391]

@@sonofcronos7831 same, but I’m foolishly optimistic

[@jaisonk22]

You're honestly right. In the books they mention there being an empty throne next to Hades because it's summer, so his wife wouldn't be there. Then how Percy and the group wished she was there to make it easier to persuade Hades to help.

[@JBSouls]

I’m mostly just super sad about the lack of Cerberus + Annabeth dynamic from the book… as a big dog lover this was just such an important scene for me when I read it. 😢

[@annachase6036]

And it was such a bad ass scene for Annabeth. She doesn't need to be a strong fighter to be the baddest bitch in town. Just with pretending to be confident and dominant she was able to command Cerberus. Such a bad ass move

[@louischwarz367]

I wanted to see Cerberus crushing souls as anabeth commands him to sit. It was left out of the movie and now it got left out again. That was my favourite scene in the book.

[@YUMMSMOREZ-ec1sv]

My mom is a teacher and after she saw a kid drawing a horse with wings she pulled out a stick of dynamite gave it to the kid and ran

[@theotherspencer]

Funny as a kid I was given a stick of dynamite by my teacher who then ran away, and I think that was after I drew a horse with wings

[@phoebusapollo8365]

Mine gave me a horse with wings after I drew a dynamite stick on my paper😊

[@godzillakingofthemonsters54]

WHAT?

[@dabigcheeze9689]

As she should, I would be absolutely horrified if a kid drew a pegasus

[@gui4816]

I hate how every god is just some guy... Ares in the books comes with this aura of rage, the red eyes and the comically large bike. In the show he's just a guy, in a normal sized harley. Hermes doesn't have any cool gadget, nor does he show his snakes and his scepter. It's literally just Lin-Manuel Miranda. Hephaestus doesn't have any scars and deformities. He's literally Santa Claus in a suit. Hades in the books is in a throne of bones and uses a suit made of souls. He's scary. In the show he's just... a guy... in an empty room... and he talks like any teenage character

[@matimele1]

His scepter is called a caduceus please and thank you

[@ImJordanFr]

@@matimele1 "The" Caduceus actually

[@blackbirddragon8045]

worse... WANNA be teen. It sounded cringe.

[@Dino-god69]

The suit made of souls was SO DOPE.

[@haterragergamer6207]

This. Like seriously no hint of creativity or imagination, just some guy….

[@cameroncollins3136]

I worked at a school for children with mental health diagnosis and learning disorders. A drawing of a Pegasus is definitely not close to a concern, and a kiddo who wanders around and imagines things is literally every kid ever.

[@OptimusPhillip]

I honestly could not believe that that was supposed to be Hades when he first entered the scene. I had no idea who else it could've been, but the show has already pulled so much out of its ass, I guess it wouldn't have surprised me if they'd randomly given a cameo to some minor cthonic god. I almost get the vibe that Rick is overcorrecting for the movies. The movie played the Lotus Casino similarly to the book, so Rick did something completely new with it. The movie turned Hades into Satan, so Rick turned him into a softie. But the weird thing is that Procrustes, the guy guarding the entrance to the Underworld, is played by the same guy who played Charon, the guy who guarded the entrance to the Underworld, in the movie!

[@tomhur1]

Speaking of Charon and not doing what the movies did, that's another thing. The movies had Percy and co, bribe Charon to get to the underworld and are taken down the River Styx, so the show has Charon refuse the bribe and we get the Cerberus scene instead.

[@TheYarnStop]

I’m so glad you also thought Hades was a different person since everyone thinks I’m weird for thinking that.

[@winchesters4life34]

what's funny is that the guy who played procrustes in this show and charon in the movies would make a great Hades. especially since he also played literal Death in supernatural and he crushed that role.

[@Greendalewitch]

The actors name who guarded the entrance to the underworld is Julian Riggins. A highly underappreciated actor who did a wonderful job portraying death on Supernatural. He sadly doesnt get the credit that he deserves as an actor.

[@winchesters4life34]

@@Greendalewitch yeah they should have made him Hades! he has experience playing a character related to death and the afterlife. plus he was very intimidating in his role as Death in supernatural. like from the first scene he was introduced you could tell he was a big deal. He would have made a fantastic Hades but instead they decided to go the route of a silly dude in a robe? for some reason? like narratively it made no sense.

[@dino_8755]

In the scene where they gave Grover the stress ball. it also showed Grover picking his horns. Which is Probably a sign that he scared.

[@ItzShdw]

yeah you can tell from his acting and body language that hes nervous/ scared

[@TheSteamHat]

It was brought up earlier that he was picking at his horns again

[@brucemartin1420]

Also Grover says it smells bad when he means monsters and bad things about to happen. Grover’s nose is very good

[@SonicSpeedGaming759]

I know that people want a Percy Jackson animated show, but honestly I wanna see what they'd do with a video game. Like make it play similar to the modern GOW games or the Final Fantasy games

[@HuntSD]

I think a Percy Jackson game like Hogwarts Legacy would be the better approach.

[@bruhda7469]

@@HuntSD a lego game would also be cool

[@addison_v_ertisement1678]

Making you figure out what everything and everyone is would be amazing.

[@SonicSpeedGaming759]

@@addison_v_ertisement1678 that's not a bad idea

[@Seraphina-b3h]

I wanted an animated show so badly too! A video game would be so cool as well!

[@sleipnirthe8th339]

Imagine a Last airbender styled 2D Show for Percy Jackson, that would work so much better from the visual style, possibilities and writing

[@legi1233]

That’s what i am saying for years!!

[@sleipnirthe8th339]

@@legi1233 yeah, 2D shows need more respect for their own possibilities as life action

[@dariovirga7711]

Yes, that would be great. I think you can do much better with an animated series rather than with a LA

[@sleipnirthe8th339]

@@dariovirga7711 yeah, tho life action can be great, it has failed us twice on Percy Jackson, even with the original author on board. A 2D Anime-like show definitively would be a more Ideal Style for the Story, like Avatar as mentioned before.

[@ToscaTee]

I’ve been craving a shounen anime-like adaptation of pjo, or avatar-style in your words, it’s so perfect for it!!! Hollywood hates 2d animation so much it’s insane.

[@_-drowsy-_]

I’ll be perfectly honest, I didn’t really like the underworld design either. It’s pretty accurate and this isn’t much of a complaint exactly, just how I personally see it. Based on Nico’s love for it and Persephones residents in it, it needs to have the capability to be seen as beautiful and my idea was kind of a vast, bioluminescent abyss kind of vibe, where it’s pops of color in darkness, and could be seen as intimidating or mesmerizing as it needs to be according to the situation.

[@malemoira1090]

I agree. Bioluminescent abyss describes perfectly how I imagined the underworld. It’s kind of a nitpick but I think you’re right.

[@_-drowsy-_]

@@malemoira1090 thank god someone agrees, I’ve never seen anyone with this opinion before 😭

[@vastiena6792]

And I always imagined it as a big ever expanding cave!! That's what was wrong with the appearance to me I guess It felt way too open and vast Id absolutely welcome some color pops in there too- maybe glowy gemstones and plants that look kind of cool when dead? (Also not a complaint, just what I had pictured originally)

[@Multifandom_talk]

Some people proposed that the underworld is only pretty when Persephone is home.. And when she is away Hades is gloomy and everything is dark

[@ruthvause3429]

Um… as a person who just read the book, this looked nothing like it’s designed in the book. 😂 Like nothing at all lol

[@PwnzerProductions]

The line from the book that stands out in my mind was that Hades "was the third god I'd met, but the first who really struck me as godlike." He's described as being 10 feet tall and dressed in ancient-looking black robes with a golden crown. It's clear that he truly doesn't care for the casual modernized appearance that the other gods do. He doe not participate in the living world above them. He speaks nobly and properly, like a king. He's a god that commands authority and respect just by being in the room, and his personality reflects his bitter but resigned outlook on his lot in life and his treatment by his brothers. He sits atop a throne of bones and his black robes seem to be woven with the souls of the damned. This guy was a tasteful but sassy little gay man with a stylish little quiff in his hair who makes little sailor jokes

[@firelorddustin8518]

23:39 technically if they were in an upside down castle and the portal was below them, then the portal did take them upwards

[@hunterthompson7605]

Yea that was what I was thinking. Honestly you can do it either way and it works still.

[@AizStein]

Charon in the myth just got me thinking that his excuse to Hades for letting people in is “Hey man, 20 drachmas is 20 drachmas. You know what I’m saying.”

[@kanhaibhatt913]

Show Hades is like an old chum you just run into at a bookstore and chat with for a few minutes

[@samurexatlas7373]

So what I'm gathering from Procrustes is: Guy and store, fine. Percy in the store, can you not discover things boy!?

[@offdutyenglishmajor9924]

Yeah, that was half of the fun of the books was the discovery.

[@Ts-lz1gj]

Not only that. Percy is mad that his dad isn’t around, finds out that this person procrustes is also a son of posideon too. But your not show any reaction to that?

[@offdutyenglishmajor9924]

@@Ts-lz1gj I know, it's maddening.

[@Ts-lz1gj]

@@offdutyenglishmajor9924 I think the main issue is that book was intended for 8-12 year olds. So they made the show for 7 year olds to kids who are older. Making it really pg. However the way he wrote the book was treated more like a pg 13. The depiction of gabe was spot on in the first movie. They actually did curse in the book but didn’t show it. It’s stuff like that. The really deep connections with Percy and Grover. Like they die for one another. Chiron was everyone ones father figure. The thing behind the blue food. You don’t see that of kind emotional detail in Nickelodeon, Disney or any other pg series/movie. That’s why so many teens and adults like it. It is very possible to write a series and for it to be more attended for children, but not realizing that it reached out more to a somewhat bigger age group because of the content. So a lot fans expecting something different. Like twilight was originally posted to be for 9-12 year olds. However the entire series was no matter which book was not suitable for pre teen age group. Coralline was supposed to be a kids movie, rated pg. however almost every kid who watched at a pg age were scared from it. Every adult reacts to it on KZbin keep saying the Sam thing “this is not a kids movie”

[@wasifalam802]

I feel your disappointment in this episode, and I was so hoping that we would get a 20ft Hades dressed in his regular robes and he commanded authority and hates his brothers but not for the reasons that other characters give us like Hades being jealous of Poseidon and Zeus because they got the sky and sea. I wanted to see like the wealth of like millions of dollars of gems and the power of having entire armies of dead soldiers from every century or year. I wanted his rant and complaints of always being thought of as the bad guy and the little comment about Charon and his silk suits. I wanted to see him get pissed off and threaten a zombie apocalypse because Hades is fed up with never getting any sympathy from his family and the overall portrayal of him being a tragic character. Like if they could've done this and done it perfectly and well, I would've given it a ten out of ten despite the exposition dump of Procrustes and the failure of capturing Charon's character.

[@HeartDAlyson]

I feel that without those little details, they just feel like generic characters without a personality. Which probably suffered because of the limited episodes and the odd length of each episode. If they made it 10 episodes with 1 hour each, they probably would have had a much more even pacing. Old reference but it feel like the series was hit with the Nolan ray. All fun character traits are stripped and everything serious could always be more serious.

[@wasifalam802]

@@HeartDAlyson 23 episodes with half an hour each would've been good too but either way I see your point

[@rockargen9591]

Thank you for pointing out the hole in the story that Hades saying he is fine with his brothers makes, i hadnt noticed until you mentioned it, either they change everything that happened with Nico's mom or they say he lied to them for no reason.

[@theotherspencer]

Yeah you physically can't say that that was a good decision made by the show

[@bluesnake4626]

But he didnt say he was fine with them. He said he stays out of their drama. So I would assume after sending monsters after Thalia Hades kept his distance from the rest of the Olympians and his brothers,

[@michaelnally2841]

@@bluesnake4626plus Hades has no reason to say that bit to them. We get the gist that really a war between his brothers doesn’t really benefit him at all.

[@bluesnake4626]

@@michaelnally2841 Exactly. And besides his beef is with Zuse, Poisiden never really did anything to Hades.

[@michaelnally2841]

@@bluesnake4626 yeah as far as I remember in the books (and in Greek mythology) the biggest beef between them was the occasional disagreement that people (and siblings) have

[@Diego-zz1df]

Writers aren't screen writers. They think they're better because they wrote the source material and can write more pages, but J. K. Rowling showed us how wrong that notion is.

[@naruske97]

Stephen King is another example. Rick should have had a team of screenwriters who can help him with his ideas

[@theanimeunderworld8338]

George Lucas too with the prequels

[@_jpg]

​@@theanimeunderworld8338 As Mark Hamill rightfully asked: Who talks like this, George?

[@gui4816]

Guys, rick only co-wrote episodes 1, 2 and 5

[@hikari9262]

​@@naruske97Who said Rick was the only writer for this show? There a lot of them if you look at the credits, and if you read articles or watched interviews.

[@Memorie]

I hope Rick and the other writers take note of all the criticisms and make season 2 the best it can be. I also hope that the people who didn't like this season give season 2 a chance.

[@MiguelPlata26]

I firmly believe that not doing a first season right is kind of an insult. If it was like the 5th season that was sort of bad, I would reconsider, but the first one? It's a deal breaker for me.

[@thats_suber]

Considering Rick said some of season 2 is already written, I doubt it.

[@a_little_flame589]

@@thats_suberrewrites happen all the time

[@HP-io2qu]

@@MiguelPlata26I disagree. Honestly, most 1st seasons of shows are the worst because the shows are still finding their footing

[@MiguelPlata26]

@@HP-io2qu I don't care that you disagree, It is my opinion, and you are free to keep watching.

[@thesp1r1tdragon55]

9:30 How would Poseidon know Percy is going on the quest to save his mom (or even that his mom isn't actually dead in the first place)? Mr. D for example only figured out Hades took her hostage after Percy described her bursting into golden light to him.

[@thatguy_fr2797]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Dionysus told Poseidon, he chill like that ngl.

[@matheusfiorelli8829]

11:15 a private instituition refusing to help a child that needs help, thats got be the most real scene in the whole series 😅😂

[@samurexatlas7373]

Unfortunately that feels like schools period.

[@benjalucian1515]

Most of those schools are understaffed and don't have the funding to expand. They have more students needing to get in than they can handle, so they can be picky about who they take.

[@jeffreygao3956]

Nope! Real is NOT abysmal!

[@GothAtheist]

​@benjalucian1515 Actually they can't. Oh boo hoo, they don't have then funding - well then give them the funding!! It's not that hard, it's kinda why there's a government.

[@GothAtheist]

​@@jeffreygao3956Perhaps not to you.

[@dailyplanet354]

The Painting in Hades' Palace is named The Garden Of Earthly Delights by Hyeronimus Bosch

[@LiliannEnder]

I instantly recognized it because of hochega

[@naruske97]

Thank you!

[@dailyplanet354]

@@naruske97 You're welcome!!

[@dailyplanet354]

@@LiliannEnder Awesome, although I don't know who that is hehe

[@jeffreygao3956]

@@dailyplanet354 His artwork strongly influenced Dana Terrace's The Owl House and she even named two characters in honor of him: Hieronymus Bump and Boscha.

[@Highlighter064]

9:00 They definitely could've done him being scared, it is literally as underground you can go and he is known (and all satyrs) to be scared of the underground because they are nature spirits, no sun in the underworld, he should be scared of it (and might've been in the book)

[@Ben-e6s8v]

I find it kinda of hypocritical that us fans wanted an adaptation that was more accurate than the books than the movies, but when the show came around some fans suddenly accepted the change from the books mostly because Rick helped with the show so...

[@tami7992]

I fully agree, it's so hypocritical... honestly, if accuracy doesn't matter anymore the movies (at least the first one, I didn't watch the second one) were better because they at least were entertaining

[@Roman-fett]

I think it’s because Rick was a writer on the show fan felt it was his true vision,while the movie goes against the rule like how they chug a bunch of nectar at the end of the movie.

[@samurexatlas7373]

Once more, the End Credits have a figure done better than the show. First Chimera, now Hades. Rick, I know you probably started revising the book in your head over the years, but please the books have so much charm already.

[@candlestickcaleb2806]

I have been watching this series with my GF and she has no knowledge of the series save for the two movies. The amount of times i have had to stop and explain to her the innacuracies and changes has begun to make me self-conscious. I dont mind the idea of some changes to the story. I think we do benefit from small changes, like seeing hephaustus and having character development for Annabeth. However, i feel like there have been some major character rewriting and heavier story changes than necessary. Charon was entertaining for the 4 pages he was around. I legit thought we would have the full cerberus fetch scene. Hades himself threw me for an entire loop. I dont hate the design of the underworld, but I refuse to accept any claims that this is following the book when the only thing this episode had in common with the books were grover almost being dragged to tartarus and the pearls being used to leave.

[@benjalucian1515]

Does she ask or do you feel the need to tell her? How about just let your GF enjoy the series for what it is, instead of telling her what it isn't?

[@meganleahy5404]

No no I totally get how he feels. My husband hasn’t read the books or seen the show but he has seen the movies (don’t judge him) so he generally knows the story. So I’m watching it by myself and just getting more and more frustrated at all the dumb changes they’ve made and after every episode I’m left with all this tension and annoyance, and I have no one to tell all my gripes to but him. And I told him that it’s almost for the best that he isn’t watching it with me because I would be doing the same thing and stopping it every two minutes to complain about the changes. I think it’s a mix of wanting to share the passion for the original story and trying to defend how good it was because the show absolutely bombs at every moment.

[@Belkak021]

@@benjalucian1515 That was my first thought too, like it's fine if he dsagrees with the changes or doesn't like them but at least let the GF enjoy it as the episode goes on lol ofc, if she wants the input about the changes is a different story

[@benjalucian1515]

@@meganleahy5404 If your husband isn't watching it or cares to, then it's OK. But this guys GF is actually watching it

[@candlestickcaleb2806]

@benjalucian1515 Most of the time, she asks me questions cause she's confused due to movies/things I mentioned in the past, the look on my face, and the burning questions that pop to her mind. Like "Wait, where's persephone? Is she not here cause she doesn't like hades?" Or "Wait aren't percy and Annabeth cousins? Wouldn't them dating be incest?" Or "Honey, why is your eye twitching after seeing Lin Manuel Miranda?" (That last one has nothing to do with percy jackson though) I am guilty of tossing in tidbits here and there though. Like mentioning how procrustes was supposed to be beheaded, and it does sometimes trigger more questions I enjoy answering and talking about.

[@Billious]

As someone with learning disabilities, as crazy as it sounds, the principal scene wasn’t too far off from my experience, I was once threatened with police arrest because I rewrote the script to “boot to the head” but with my classmates. I WAS IN 6TH GRADE AT THE TIME! And from that day forward the school was constantly trying to get me expelled or arrested for various bullshit. This was during the height of the school shooting scare, so naturally my school exclusively targeted the mentally challenged students and tried disposing of us rather than helping us.

[@_jpg]

Putting already mentally challenged students under psychological pressure because you're afraid of school shootings sounds like a brilliant strategy-

[@longforgotten4823]

As someone working to become an educator, I would’ve personally been quite impressed with a student that managed to be that kind of creative.

[@thats_suber]

But this was a school catered specifically for children with learning disabilities. So they would not be alarmed by the stuff the principle mentioned.

[@haterragergamer6207]

I’m starting to believe budgets for the episodes in this show all went to Lin Manuel’s Salary, the licensed music and Grover’s legs

[@dawid591]

My problem with the fields of asphodel is that scenery they showed is not fields, it's forest. Kinda looking cool forest, but still forest. If they said like it's some unnamed part of Underwold, it'd be better in my opinion. Maybe they based it on Dante's Divine Comedy, in which there was a forest where people changed to trees, but they changed into trees not because of regret, but because of self-harm they did in their lives.

[@Gradestar10]

Tbf tho even in th books, in th asphodel meadows, there are patches of black cottonwoods dotting th landscape. W/ th fact that in this forest souls transform into plants n it also seems to be a place where cerberus wanders, they were most likely rlly based on dante's forest of suicides n squanderers

[@dawid591]

Well. I feel like a lot (mostly sceneries) they showed us about the Underworld is based on Dante's Inferno. Suicadal forest, dessert and that big wall (walls around city of Dis) are all things taken from Dante

[@Gradestar10]

@@dawid591 that black wall is also there in th books actually, they are th walls of th erebus that delimit th boundaries of th underworld

[@domoslomo1]

In this episode, Procrustes was played by Julian Richings who also played Death in Supernatural. I thought he was perfect in the role of Death, so I was really stoked to see him again!

[@devinruiz2164]

He also played Charon in the movie

[@domoslomo1]

@@devinruiz2164 Wow! I guess he’s bringing souls to rest in every universe. In some, he reaps. In others, he ferries. And sometimes, he literally sells beds. Lol

[@kylejohnson3889]

Some would say sleeping is a temporary form of death for what is death but an eternal sleep

[@TiredMoonRabbit]

It's all the same in the end, different faces, same force of nature.

[@KingNazaru]

Mythology Guy: (Looks at the Percy Jackson movies) Perhaps I treated you too harshly.

[@magma_fire_bagwan]

Yea sounds about right

[@maritofuentes4690]

At least they treated the monsters like monsters

[@SumitYadav-md4bg]

I remember in the books percy inner-monologue said something like Hades was the first "godly" god he met and so I was extremely disappointed the moment he started speaking casually and didn't go up to his throne, even then I hoped that maybe he would get serious suddenly kinda like how Hermes became a bit serious after hearing about Luke. They genuinely didn't get some characters right

[@darriongeorge5137]

Havent seen the ep but it would be cool if one of the souls in the field of asphodel was hazel since she would be there at this point in time

[@Neutral_Tired]

since Hazel retained her memories, I wouldn't have thought she'd be rooted in place like the others

[@logann-mackenziefroste563]

Yes but like Bianca and Nico having Hazel in the lightening thief doesn’t make sense because no one knows about them. It was cool in episode 6 to get that audio easter egg of a little boy calling Bianca, Bianca to that little girl playing the archery vr game in the background 😅with

[@fashionablechangeling2003]

It ultimately wouldn't make sense though because we're never getting Heroes of Olympus adapted

[@theanimeunderworld8338]

I SOOOO wanted Hades to work but... this is NOT that Hades This is a Greater Value Hades who tries to be like Disney Hercules Hades

[@theotherspencer]

Yeah I totally think the director was like, "Hey can you do Hades from the Hercules movie, people really like that version of Hades." and the actor was like, "I think I can?"

[@Gradestar10]

I mean.. 1 of th main epithets of hades both in th books n in real mythology is literally 'th hospitable 1', n this hades here was in fact quite hospitable towards percy n grover

[@theanimeunderworld8338]

@@Gradestar10 True but he hated that Percy existed because Poseidon broke his vow, one that Hades was forced into and was bitter about the incident with Maria. Hades thought that Percy also stole his helm as blackmail for aiding Poseidon in his war against Zeus Hades was more tragic in the books because he was the black sheep (his sacred animal) of his family This series just glossed over so many details

[@Gradestar10]

@@theanimeunderworld8338 true hb th part hb th blackmail, but in fact hades never hated percy for being born. He sent an army of hellish monsters to hunt down thalia, yes, but he never did it to percy 2

[@willlyon7129]

I’m one of those people who sympathize with Hades who he was badly portrayed in pop culture.

[@jeverly]

Of course Annabeth and Percy have almost no reaction when Grover is eaten! Dude is basically just dead weight! They've completed assassinated Grover's character.. he's not really funny at all, always gets separated from the team, and he never gets any time to shine (except for playing to Ares ego to incorrectly figure out who the Lightning Thief is...)

[@TiredMoonRabbit]

They did react, Percy said grover but they had to keep running, then Percy looks at the mouth of the dog and stares for a bit, that's a reaction.

[@unknownunion-u2j]

@@TiredMoonRabbitppl are just slow and they need an entire scene of them reacting 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@Auricalios]

would you rather they'd stop mid-chase and wail about the loss of their friend while the big fucking dog waits patiently for them to work through the five stages of grief??

[@TiredMoonRabbit]

@@Auricalios I think they wanted them to scream louder I geuss?

[@cosmicriptid]

If I was a time traveler, I would watch the reactions of people to every show, and movie I was interested in, then go back and create a timeline where I fixed everything.

[@SebasTian58323]

I don't really like how they portray Sally in the show. In the book it's clear that she's a very kind but timid woman who is doing everything she can to protect her son, even enduring the abuse from Gabe, but she still has convictions about living life on her own. She refuses help from Poseidon and Percy, because she knows that if her life is ever going to have meaning she has to live it herself, including finding the strength to leave Gabe herself. It's emphasized that she never yelled or lost her temple at anytime, even Gabe, except when talking about blue food 😂

[@djalexander968]

im glad someone else had the same "holy shit grover's dead!" reaction. I had to watch it back just to make sure, by their reactions, that he didnt obviously just die

[@RabbiB0Y]

23:30 in the start of the underworld bit it shows them exiting a trap door in the ground, I' m pretty sure the whole underworld is actually upside down so the portals going down are actually going up

[@offdutyenglishmajor9924]

Hades looks like an adult Jimmy Neutron.

[@runningthemeta5570]

Yeah I think I had the same reaction to the episode. There was stuff I liked about it, especially Hades not being evil that is a major plus. But the episode was fairly underwhelming. Edit: I have some other thoughts about the series as a whole but I’ll save it for the whole series review video. Mainly the role that Rick Riordan has in the show and what it should have been.

[@unknownunion-u2j]

how are you gonna tell the author what the show should’ve been just because you don’t like it 💀💀 tbh no one cares anyway because majority of ppl like it and it’s still been watched more than half these tv show that came out with only two episodes so the more you watch something you feel the need to constantly criticize the more views and money they get so 🤷🏾‍♀️🤷🏾‍♀️

[@runningthemeta5570]

@@unknownunion-u2j ok, so nobody asked you. So bye bye.

[@Mialikesthings]

@@unknownunion-u2jplease the fact that you don’t understand criticism from hate. He stated so many times that he wants the shows to be good and that he himself likes some of the stuff you are so half -bent on someone for wanting a show to improve just because it is ‘a kid show’.Which is ironic cause I’ve been to some High-schools and there was a group of kids in one of them who has stated to dislike the show,which apparently is an agreed opinion with kids on the internet. This show is an adaption from a YA book btw so to think it’s a kids show rather than being a way to be safe is funny to me.

[@unknownunion-u2j]

@@Mialikesthings womp womp

[@BiasFree]

I wouldn't have minded the pearls as much if they hadn't thrown one away immediately, they already had the Tartarus scene coming it's in the book it's the perfect place for Grover to Lose a Pearl, or even if they didn't reveal it had happened until they got to Hades' Palace. so it hit that much harder when Percy realizes he can finish the quest or save Sally. Being that close only to lose what mattered most to him in the end as the Prophecy stated. Gaining and losing that extra pearl so fast gave me narrative whiplash. Completely agree with the extra scenes, only needed the ones in the diner. I felt like Sally's strong reactions in the diner scenes were suppose to hint at Gabe's Abuse and Sally desperation to keep Percy away from him. I think I'd rather take this Hades over the villainous version from the movie, but you're right they swung too far the other way here. We need a really really strong finale here and my hope overall is that they stick to a more faithful and straight forward adaption for future seasons.

[@tomhur1]

A friend of mine suggested maybe the reason they didn't have the pearl fall into Tartarus was because that would raise the question of why nobody down there used it.

[@BiasFree]

@tomhur1 or they could use it to explain how someone gets out. Too late for that though.

[@TiredMoonRabbit]

Hypothetical for you, what if it's still there? Just waiting to be utilized later, I don't mean next episode later by the by I mean waaaaaaaay later.

[@BiasFree]

Like in House of Hades, should Heroes of Olympus ever get adapted? Guess we'll never know. @@TiredMoonRabbit

[@gui4816]

The characters are in the door of Tartarus, one of the scariest places there is. And in the show it's just... a hole... in a boring ass desert... the characters don't feel anything... hey, here's the master bolt! We need to progress the plot! Let's go to the next thing!

[@thearcticferret]

#1. *hole #2. It was just a whole in the book too. #3. The show literally shows Percy stopping dead in his tracks after seeing Tartarus. It's hard to show characters feeling something in a visual medium compared to a literary medium and I think the show does it pretty well.

[@gui4816]

@connorthompson9 in the book, the hole* was a huge and scary abyss that whispered ancient words to the characters, it tempts them and tries to suck them in. They feel heavy (it also foreshadows the master bolt thing). They go through a dark tunnel to get to it, so they aren't in a boring desert. It's definitely not just a hole. If they can't do it justice in live action, then they shouldn't do it. Watch Game of Thrones, LOTR, Harry Potter, Indiana Jones. All mostly amazing looking fantasy productions in live action. They HAVE the budget to make it look good.

[@dazblue5515]

People saying "if you don't like it, go read the books" - that's such a cop out! Why should we? The reason this show is being made is because people loved the books... so why change them? This argument can be levelled at many IP's, but it really winds me up that we can's just have a faithful onscreen adaptation... as TheMythologyGuy says, we want to see the books we read come to life, and not altered by people that generally have less imagination and talent than the author!

[@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu]

At this point with Marvel Studios you should be used to the fact that the shows and movies "take inspiration" from the comics and aren't really adaptation. It's clear that Disney products don't try to be faithful to the source material, just have a new product to sell. Not sure why?

[@dazblue5515]

@@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu Well, this isn't Marvel... but it applies to them... Why take a beloved IP then change it - there is a reason people love these things so much, but if you change things it drives actual fans away... Disney have seen that with Star Wars and Marvel... It's crazy from a business point-of-view! It's like buying Coca Cola and first thing you do is change the recipe!

[@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu]

@@dazblue5515 I guess it's because casual fans will always be a bigger group than fans. I didn't read the books so it's sad to see book fans react to the show, but while I watched this episode I enjoyed it, I think it was one of the best from this show. I think that will always be the problem with Disney shows, if Percy Jackson succeeds somehow, they will probably make it an MCU, a franchise that takes inspiration from source material, but made for its own fandom and not the books fandom

[@dazblue5515]

@@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu You say you enjoyed the show, but haven't read the books... so the point is you don't know if sticking to the books would have been better - and the casual fan wouldn't know either - but the fans of the book are what made it successful, so why not keep it faithful?

[@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu]

@@dazblue5515 Maybe some things would've been better, but there are some that you can hear from this videos and sound like just changing something. The fact that Hades doesn't have a grudge with his brothers sounds like a big change, and that in the books the character could be more interesting, but for example the fact that he is suppose to be imponent doesn't really sound like it would change much, it just depend on what do you prefer. I won't say the "if you don't like it, go read the books" because I felt the same about an adaptation in the past were they skip one of my favourite mini arcs from the novel, changed the order of things and some more, I just stop to watch it, if people liked it, I wasn't the one to tell something was wrong, it wasn't made for readers. Probably if I read comics I would been mad with the MCU as a lot of fans were (well nowadays the quality of any project is debatable). Although I now remembered another animated adaptation that in S2 make a new story, I read the novel and obviously saw that they were doing something new, I've seen a lot of people hate or dislike S2 just by the fact that it wasn't the same as the novel. I didn't have a problem with the new story, they actually were setting a future figth based on the fact that the bad guy killed the main character's love interest mother, in that season she got to know that while in the novel the bad guy basically tells that info to the audience (I guess just so we get the idea that his evil, despite the fact that at that point we already knew more crimes of him), the characters never know that and it feels like a pointless plot point. So I was open minded to it, but then in S3 they basically went back to the novel story and that basically became pointless filler. It's posible that I was more open minded there becasue at that point I wasn't really enjoying the source story, since the author updated shorter and shorter chapters for months and most (if not all) were contradicting things from previous chapters, even things from 2 or 3 chapters before. That isn't probably the same situation and probably not the best example; probably the books were good from start to finish, I'm just trying to say that changing or adding things doesn't need to be automatically wrong, but it's usually how people percieve it. I don't know how would I feel if I read the books prior to the show, I just know that there are things I dislike from the show and things that I enjoy.

[@Green-bowser-5]

In the movies hades was too evil in the show he was too jolly happy only the books got him right.

[@HiGhWaYmAn4.2.0]

The Procrustes scene ended and my instant thought was TMG is gonna be soooo pissed 😂😂😂 that feeling only grew as the episode progressed 😂

[@G-Forces]

Wouldn't surprise me if disney forced Rick Riordan to say they weren't changing things.

[@gui4816]

They've probably paid him a lot. There's where the budget went😅

[@longforgotten4823]

Mark Hamill was forced to do it for Star Wars too but at least he was willing to tell the fans the truth in anyway he could.

[@pablolacalle6098]

Nah maybe at this point we have to stop deflecting responsibility and acknowledge that perhaps Rick did change these things willingly.

[@SlayingSuperNerdX]

I hope Sea of Monsters and Epi8 are good Spoilers for Episode 8 I swear if they ruin Luke’s betrayal and make him fight Percy. I’m going to explode and turn the TV off.

[@jacobbaker5442]

​​@@SlayingSuperNerdXLol. Lmao.

[@bonrex2390]

I can't claim that all of this is Rick's idea or not, but both the co-producer and Rick said some wild stuff about the changes all the way back in Medusa episode. It is a phenomenally bad take on why the change needed to happen and it is sad that we can't have one accurate adaptation of anything. Though i can't say i am really all that surprised. I had a bad feeling about the show since the first castings so like...dissapointed for sure but not surprised.

[@Artist_ash-is5os]

i personally disagree with them getting 4 pearls because in the book it is clearly stated after he gets the 3 pearls no gods give gifts for free, meaning the reason he only gets 3 is because they have to pay the price of the gift by leaving someone behind

[@Darkon4580]

Fun fact: The guy who played Procrustes in this episode is the same guy who played Charon in the movie. So that makes him the only actor to play two different characters in both adaptations of the Percy Jackson books.

[@Dr.WaluigiReviews]

I feel like this episode encompasses the mindset of Disney and studios right now. Change everything to please a different demographic, make the series shorter than what it should be (Seriously, you could've made this season 13 episodes long and not have it be so rushed), and only add small elements from the original source material because it'll make the book fans happy.

[@tami7992]

I agree tho I think around 20 24-28 minute episodes would be better than 13 32-43 minute episodes, shorter episodes are easier for kids I think

[@Courier-Six]

Was a substitute teacher for two years in middle and elementary school working on my teaching credentials. You know the only time a kid went to the principle? When he wrote a journal about eliminating police officers in a violent way. We has kids write about minecraft skeletons, zombies, The Purge. Depending on your view either fortunately or unfortunately, kids have a higher threshold for being disturbed than I did growing up

[@lotemylife3006]

I kept yelling at my screen the entire episode and could barely (and only with a few shots of vodka) make it through the episode.... that pretty much sums it up

[@AudreyArnett-si3ss]

Glad to hear Movieflame get named! Didn't except him to be here!

[@joeu.3624]

Guy who played live action Sandman should have been Hades.

[@tplayz7942]

Agreed, this show is going more and more off the rails. I wanna see where that budget is going.

[@tplayz7942]

@@juliana-fu8hi Riordan just wants money. He obviously doesn’t care.

[@elementalt4nick]

@@juliana-fu8hi just curious, what does “timely” release mean Is he releasing a lot of books close together or releasing barely anything

[@MannequinMonarch]

Fair enough. Budget is less my concern really, it may matter in some aspects, but I'd say if any problems are being had it's more relative to the writing. Currently I'm mixed on the story, I'm not one to whine that it's inaccurate or different, in my opinion that isn't inherently bad and can even be a positive as it means they aren't just recycling the same story note to note for the books and can actually surprise fans. The problem is if their changes are actual good ones, which, I'm mixed on currently.

[@tartarus31]

​@@juliana-fu8hiso what, the show is bad , and NOT acurret to the books , just like the movies

[@elementalt4nick]

@@juliana-fu8hi ok, thanks for the info

[@thesp1r1tdragon55]

Grover couldn't have used the pearl in the book to escape being pulled into Tartarus because Percy had all 3 in his pocket.

[@oceanic-comet2257]

I'm not going to lie, when I saw Hades's throne, all I could think about was that one ColdPlay album cover.

[@thehorroranalog2943]

Rick if you are being at gun point at your own free will blink twice.

[@Ts-lz1gj]

I think the main issue is that book was intended for 8-12 year olds. So they made the show for 7 year olds to kids who are older. Making it really pg. However the way he wrote the book was treated more like a pg 13. The depiction of gabe was spot on in the first movie. They actually did curse in the book but didn’t show it. It’s stuff like that. The really deep connections with Percy and Grover. Like they die for one another. Chiron was everyone ones father figure. The thing behind the blue food. You don’t see that of kind emotional detail in Nickelodeon, Disney or any other pg series/movie. That’s why so many teens and adults like it. It is very possible to write a series and for it to be more attended for children, but not realizing that it reached out more to a somewhat bigger age group because of the content. So a lot fans expecting something different. Like twilight was originally posted to be for 9-12 year olds. However the entire series was no matter which book was not suitable for pre teen age group. Coralline was supposed to be a kids movie, rated pg. however almost every kid who watched at a pg age were scared from it. Every adult reacts to it on KZbin keep saying the Sam thing “this is not a kids movie”

[@radicalpasta7040]

The reason Percy wasn’t admitted to that school was people think he has hallucinations. Percy can see through the Mist and see magical creatures that are invisible to mortals. Mortals think he is having visual hallucinations. The school is equipped to help neurodivergent kids but maybe they aren’t equipped to care for kids with conditions that severe. Percy drawing that Pegasus wasn’t the only time he saw something magical. I think in ep 1 they establish he is bullied in school cause people think he is crazy. The flashbacks with Percy’s mom are meant to flesh out her character and show how hard a time she was having being a mom. Percy is her first kid. Being a single first time mom is difficult even if your kid isn’t a demigod. The flashbacks are meant to help empathize with her struggles. Maybe some parents could relate to her. Overall, I would say the show is almost a reboot of Percy Jackson. Riordan has changed how he feels about his story since writing it over a decade ago. He has changed many of the elements because I think he feels he could have done the story better. Kinda reminds me of the recent Scott Pilgrim anime. I agree that I expected the show to be more accurate to the book but I am not necessarily opposed to making a remix/redo of this story. There are some elements I didn’t like, such as the “Clarisse is the lightning thief” red herring or how Hermes was handled or the pacing in the first 2 ep. However, I have still enjoyed the show overall so far. Personally, I think I am going to rewatch the whole season 1 after its done to see how I feel about the whole thing once it’s put together. Streaming shows tend to be very serialized so often the individual ep feel better all together than as separate parts. I agree that the effects in this show are sometimes lacking. Something to keep in mind is effects heavy shows like this often need to cut corners due to time, budget or decisions by network higher ups. You can still criticize the show for the effects but I wouldn’t lay all the blame on the creators. Personally, effects usually aren’t the most important thing for me. I used to be a fan of the show The Flash and that show had terrible effects.

[@tomhur1]

Yeah, I'm guessing the "He's having hallucinations" thing was what they meant during that scene with Sally and the principal but they didn't do a good job getting across that idea.

[@jazmineraymond7495]

Lots of people have hallucinations though, it isn't as uncommon as people think, and I've never heard of someone being kicked out of school for it, not even when it was accompanied by violent behavior.

[@pinsandneedles3]

​@@jazmineraymond7495 He was on the roof, saying he went there because he was seeing things... I bet that new school saw him as a lawsuit waiting to happen if he manages to get himself severely injured or killed in the future

[@TiredMoonRabbit]

​@@tomhur1I thought they were implying he was going to walk off the roof, like if you combine a flying horse, and a kid on a roof seeing things id think he would have more than ADHD.

[@oliviasepelak3083]

Right?! I was thinking that they were implying that he was showing signs of early onset schizophrenia or bipolar disorder and they weren't equipped to handle students with those needs

[@samuraijack1k997]

Well, I do have a genuine compliment to the series: I really like the soundtrack, I mean the OST, not the songs that happen to be in the show. I think Bear McReary does very good music and he's done it again.

[@professorbutters]

Bear McCreary is amazing.

[@CubenYT]

I REALLY Hope the fight with Ares is gonna be good. Rick Riordan says it's gonna be EPIC, but idk if I believe him or not.

[@Matthew_Branagan]

From the future here! It was ok.

[@user-ug7xo1by2y]

I was just thinking "man i hope his review comes out soon I'm so mad about this episode" and I opened youtube and saw your exhausted face haha thank you for your reviews🙏🙏 and posting so early

[@parthpatel-vs3iu]

16:22 if anyone noticed they still didn’t cross the styx instead they basically climb over a wall

[@Almost-Infamous]

As bad as this is, it isn't as bad as the travesty that is Amazon's Wheel of Time. Sad times for us book fans.

[@corptalk612]

Rare Wheel of Time fan spotted 👀 yea the show was absolutely terrible. Haven’t watched the second season, but it’s hard to be motivated after the end of the first season took such a sharp nosedive from an already sinking ship

[@maleprincess5559]

When they found the master bolt in the bag, I thought Percy was going to send Grover to return the bolt to Zeus while Percy went to get his mom.

[@theotherspencer]

That would have been smarter, but no this show cannot be smart at all

[@TiredMoonRabbit]

Small question, if annabeth has the hat and was full of guilt for doing something wrong would it not make sense that she stole the bolt? Or at least is involved?

[@thebladesservent1542]

@@TiredMoonRabbittell me you didnt read the book without telling me you didnt read the book.

[@TiredMoonRabbit]

@@thebladesservent1542 hey, never claimed to.

[@wewillrockyou3272]

​@@TiredMoonRabbit actually in the first book Luke did try to frame annabeth as the thief to percy using her invisibility hat as an excuse on how a person could sneak away with the bolt. He even waited till annabeth and Grover were not close to hear percy and Luke to start talking about that.

[@Mikichondria]

Rick's books are published by Disney Hyperion, I bet anything he was forced into signing onto this because of his book deals. "Hey guys Rick actually likes this one, not like those awwwfuuuul movies haha" is actually really solid marketing... and it worked for a lot of people.

[@JohnMarlock]

Annabeth and Percy were probably like, "Finally! Grover's gone!"

[@arturfernandes101]

i honestly laughed out loud when percy opened the backpack and there was the bolt like mate did you really not look inside that backpack anytime during that long ass truck ride?

[@arturfernandes101]

@@juliana-fu8hi i did read them, but back in 2010 and my memory is shit. So yeah, series kinda gave no explanation whatsoever

[@abigailharoldsen]

The worst part about the series is realizing how much stuff the movie got right

[@salarzx62090]

Not really. The movie still fails

[@denjidenji9162]

People praising anything about the movie after the tv show really just shows that the bar for Percy Jackson adaptations is in hell

[@abigailharoldsen]

@@salarzx62090 yeah but the movies actually did a really good job at portraying Gabe and sally and Ms dodds attacking Percy

[@sloganreadet1151]

Not really. The movie completely cut Nancy Bobofit, the Jackson montauk cabin, Didn’t explain the cabin system at all, Cut Percy’s camp training scenes, Had Annabeth take Clarisse’s role in Capture the Flag, Cut the Oracle of Delphi, Let Luke have a computer, made the entire quest a fetch quest, cut the Arch scene, cut Crusty’s Waterbed Palace, cut Grover flying into Tartarus, put Persephone in the Underworld in Summer, made Hades the actual villain, and cut Ares’ battle as a consequence of the former change. That’s only changes made to the plot. Compared to that, the show is about as close an adaptation as you can get plot wise.

[@Hydro0223]

@@sloganreadet1151people are being very extra nitpicky over tiny changes and reasonable simplifications in the story. Like “how come they know it’s the Lotus casino?” Because it would be dumb for them to not know the most well read Greek mythology text. And Percy was the one who didn’t know it was the lotus place, he needed to be reminded. And people are pissed that Annabeth is getting most of the smart character moments, SHES THE DAUGHTER OF ATHENA! These are the same moments in the book people criticize Rick when he first wrote the books.

[@PJO_LOVER]

The problem with crusty is yes in the books Percy knew basically immediately but played around while in the show he’s like “sup procrustes”

[@da-vidcargill4975]

people dont realize he could be told about him before they entered the place

[@JakeDMaier]

We never saw that. Doesn't count if it's off screen.​@@da-vidcargill4975

[@Cheddur]

@@da-vidcargill4975 some pople dont realize UR ADDING TO THE PLOT... show us then??? helooo

[@Daughter_of_Hades12]

both me and my friend did not think that was Hades. we thought it was one of his servants cause from what we thought Hades was this big buff dude with an intimidating posture, but nah he's an average-looking guy with an average-looking voice. he was pretty sassy though

[@brucemartin1420]

The thing is it’s Disney+ so yeah they’re making it for children. Sucks a bit for us that grew up with the books cuz we’re adults now, but hey kids now probably really enjoy the show

[@HeartDAlyson]

The only thing that makes Hades 180 personality switch is, if they make it to the final book, same actor Hades shows his true harsh personality. Like what we see is Hades being nice to get his stuff back, and Hades being the hospitable one, tries to act like a friendly guy. But later shows his true personalty when Kronos rises and tries to make Nico the child of prophecy

[@thatguy_fr2797]

If this show gets a second season, I do hope the writing get better because I love the books and the actors do seem like genuinely good people. But we just need for things to play out like the book or let things flesh out more.

[@burnttoast2266]

I find this a good series, especially for fans of Greek Mythology, but not as great as an adaptation as it could've been. It needed longer episodes more than anything, but I'm enjoying the series, I'm not minding a lot of the changes as it fits what the show is trying to tell. Just my two cents 🤷‍♂️

[@cwhitemusic]

I agree. I hope if they make a season 2, that the episodes are longer. I feel like that would fix a lot of issues. However if they are short again, I doubt we see a Season 3

[@recoveryman6374]

even if we take the show as a stand alone and not an adaptation, how can you enjoy it with all the logical inconsistencies? i don't know if it is because i read the books first but the logic of the tv show makes no sense to me. such as how they treat Grover, every character's background story being reviled as soon as we meet them, how certain characters act, etc. i don't mean to harp on you just genuinely curious

[@CrazyGamingYT56]

Love your content keep up the great work

[@sakurap95]

What happened to the loving, supportive, brave, patient mother Sally Jackson is? Why does Percy want to save this very fearful, impatient version of her? She literally said nothing and walked away when her son asked “why are you trying to get rid of me?” Wtf! No response at all?! You could’ve literally said anything, Sally, and that would’ve been better! The same scenes could’ve happened! But Sally is always putting on a brave face in front of Percy, to NOT make him worry about him belonging at yet another school. Then in the dinner, when he asks, “why are you trying to get rid of me?” She looks heartbroken and says, “of course not, sweetheart. I’m sorry it’s complicated, but we will find a school that’s right for you.” Then she treats him to dessert and goes to order it. Then she has her scene with Poseidon at the bar! I still like the show, but these weird changes make me so glad the Percy Jackson musical exists. 😅. “Strong” is Sally’s best song. And it’s her talking with Percy about his struggles in school! Sally is nothing but patient and kind because she knows her son can’t help who he is. (Such a great metaphor for raising a kid with ADHD or other learning difficulties.) You literally HAVE to be patient in order for achievement to happen. It’s so weird to see Sally portrayed very fearful, but of the wrong things. 😅

[@mikaelasmall9238]

don't know of you're much of a musicals guy, but I'd be so interested to hear your thoughts on the Percy Jackson musial. IMO not a bad adaptation at all. Would love to see a reaction! Ok, i mean, they still go hard with the comedy for Hades, but at least its actually kinda funny.

[@Seraphina-b3h]

I agree… I feel it’s like the best adaptation of the books.

[@mikaelasmall9238]

@@Seraphina-b3h Legit. Like, yeah it kind of glosses over a lot that happens, but the heart of the story is still there, way more than the movie and series.

[@dustrose8101]

@@mikaelasmall9238 It would've been hilarious to see Chris McCarrell try to convince us he "jumped" from the "top" of the St. Louis arch onstage tho.

[@mikaelasmall9238]

@@dustrose8101 omg can you imagine XD that would be soo good

[@heidilangford9454]

The about the drawing. My brother when he was a kid drew godzilla and the school called my parents in concerned about him drawing a giant lizard. The teachers tried to say something was wrong with him and my parents said he just drew a movie character. Schools can be insane, so I think that thing was very realistic.

[@maneatingmare]

24:19- You may not be a dad now, but you're going to make a great one someday.

[@bzzztbzzzt2428]

This ep is fine and most of the issues would be resolved if they got more time. However the part I was waiting around the most which is Hades' intro let me down so hard. When I first saw him I was like ??? then I was like there's no way this is him. No actual way. I was muttering the whole time hoping it was someone else but nope. The characterisation would be fine if not for the existence of book Hades and it basically throws the whole issue of Hades and Nico under the bus. One more thing it feels like in this interpretation of Hades they are throwing it in our faces that he's a good guy. Like they're saying hey look at this guy and how he acts does that seem like someone who's a villain to you? Hades' intro in the books and how Percy thought he was the first God to actually look like a God, how Percy felt afraid with how imposing he is, and despite all that he still went against him. It showed Percy's character and in the show Percy standing up against this version of Hades felt less.

[@CursedKelpie]

hades had no presence, no grandeur, why did they make him non-threatening, they made Ares like that too, but Hades was sooooo much worse.

[@jonathancunningham8739]

No Ares was done right excluding the eyes.

[@CursedKelpie]

he seemed more comedic then threatening to me@@jonathancunningham8739

[@shelbybayer200]

The Budget went into convincing Rick to let them change factors of the series I bet

[@theanimelovingghost_4499]

Whenever I see one of these videos my mood improves

[@milestrombley1466]

Hades looks like a dorky uncle trying to look gothic.

[@kurathchibicrystalkitty5146]

I hope it's alright if I ask a couple questions I meant to ask during the livestream: 1) What're your favourite and least favourite Rick Riordan books; 2) What's something in the myths that you'd add to the books [any series, not just Percy Jackson]; and 3) What changes would you make to fix/improve Magnus Chase Book 2 and 3? I love Magnus and his friends so much, I wanted it to be as good as Percy Jackson. I really didn't like Loki's characterization as the series went on. He started off really mysterious and had a ton of potential to be a really nuanced and interesting version of Loki, but by the end of Book 2 he just has no sympathetic qualities whatsoever. Then there's that moment in Book 3 where I was so sure that Magnus, Sam, and Alex were going to end up in Helheim, but then they didn't, and that dangling plot thread has bothered me ever since. Also, the fact that we never get to see Baldur, and that he never had any children--total missed opportunity to have Alex befriend a child of Baldur. What a twist that could've been.

[@professorbutters]

I love the Magnus Chase books, but Riordan really messed up with Loki, making him the “god of evil,” when he’s just not.

[@kurathchibicrystalkitty5146]

@@professorbutters Exactly! Loki is one of my favourite mythic characters ever, and he's just an abusive, vile person in Magnus Chase. I don't get it at all. Maybe the main problem is that the series takes place after Baldur's death and Loki's imprisonment. If that hadn't happened yet, there would've been way more interesting possibilities. Anyway, ranting aside, what're your favourite parts? I love the bit in Book 3 when Aegir is trying to serve everyone dinner, and Magnus is desperately trying to bluff his way out of Hearth and Blitz being cooked for the main course, and Aegir's cook gets fed up with everyone having dietary restrictions. Alex's contribution is just 'and I have green hair!' It makes me laugh just thinking about it.

[@dustrose8101]

@@professorbutters Riordan got a little too addicted to making or calling certain gods the "god of evil" post PJO. He did it with Set too in TKC but Set's portrayal post-Red Pyramid was more in line with how you'd expect him to act as a god of chaos and not evil so it did feel a bit like crossed wires.

[@habibasedky3549]

If you didn’t know Grover actually starts picking his horns because he’s stressed so that’s why anabeth gave him the ball

[@richyrich6099]

My main issue with the show is how quickly everything is going. They just keep raising the stakes every episode and then seemingly resolving them at the end of every episode and the different story arcs last for so little time. Like, they could have extended the time in the Underworld for at least another two episodes.

[@zolove_]

Things go very quickly in the books as well, I don’t know what you were expecting.

[@richyrich6099]

@zolove_ As quick as in the show? It feels like way too much is happening too quickly and they're just pushing plot point after plot point. They made the whole Lotus arc one single episode where they figured out the entire deal with it right away and the very next episode they appear at the entrance of hell with no details of how they found it. Not to mention the cringey Procrustus scene. Just seems ridiculous.

[@shad0w_0_93]

About Annabeth giving Grover the ball. She saw he was scratching his horn and in episode 2 driad (dunno how it spells in english) tells him he was scratching them because of nerves.

[@SanguineSon]

as someone who's never read the books or seen the movies. I've been enjoying the show and the path it's been taking. But it's also been enjoyable to hear the differences that the show has taken and what could have been done better.

[@Killer-hy9ly]

Read the books

[@WillSolaceIsASwiftie]

I feel like everyone has already complained properly about the show but one thing I liked was that we got more of Sally Jackson In the books we didn’t get much of her personality other than just “nice, chill mom” but here we really got to see some hardship. Yes, some of it was done weird but for the most part that was good

[@goldenphantom2259]

At this point Rick is a hypocrite. Why are you going to complain about the movies deviating from the plot of the books if you're going to do the same thing with the show where you have the power to control over how faithful of an adaptation it is? I had such high hopes this series and once again, I'm disappointed. Poor Percy Jackson fans just can't catch a break.

[@tami7992]

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if all this happened because Rick tried to overcompensate. The movies had Medusa as a villain? Let's make her a victim. The movies had Hades be a villain too? Let's make him a silly and kind goofball rather than the manacing but not evil antagonist from the books, the movie mostly accurately adapted the Hotel Lotus scene? Let's change it beyond recognition

[@DougE-Fresh1]

Honestly, in my opinion the only Hades they got right in a movie or series was in Young Hercules, Hercules Legendary Journey and Xena the Warrior Princess.

[@boodleturkey4365]

Hey Mythology Guy! Yes, the souls turning into trees is in Dante’s Inferno, it’s called the Wood of the Suicide. The Divine Comedy by Dante is one of my favorite books, you really should give it a read:) Lots of references to Greek mythology

[@Gradestar10]

They probably based these asphodel meadows on dante's forest for real. Btw, it's actually called th forest of suicides n squanderers, w/ th former turning into trees n being eaten by harpies, while th souls of squanderers escape throughout th forest chased by black female hellhounds

[@thatcasual574]

Annabeth hands Grover the ball because he's nervous - you see him scratching and picking at his horns which was his nervous tick in the books, it was used as a way to incorporate the ball to the viewer but it made sense to do so