Percy Jackson Season 1 Episode 5 - TheMythologyGuy discusses

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[@samurexatlas7373]

Of course Ares loves Twitter. It's mind wars over pointless things.

[@theanimeunderworld8338]

Ares must love modern day with conflicts starting over the littlest issues

[@jomz2058]

Mars must be going insane with twitter lol

[@dantefromdevilmaycry9857]

@@jomz2058 Wasn't Mars like the opposite of Ares?

[@adurskenplayz5984]

​@@theanimeunderworld8338there was a reformation of the church in germany and switzerland 500 years ago, and the leaders of both reformators were in a political conflict, because one person said wine is a symbol for the blood of jesus and the other said wine is litterally the blood of jesus.... so it's not a modern thing, it's a human thing.

[@jomz2058]

@@dantefromdevilmaycry9857 Yeah, I meant crazy cuz there are too many senseless Twitter wars for no real reason. knowing his other persona instigates them is wack

[@runningthemeta5570]

I love just some of the little stuff with Ares, like how he takes a few minutes to start a flame war on Twitter. As well as his discussion with Grover about the little wars that don’t get regularly talked about.

[@rileybriggs5494]

That was the funniest scene for me cause when you really think about it ares would be a troll on the internet to start a "war"

[@_-drowsy-_]

I KNOW IM OBSESSED WITH HIM, HES BETTER THAN THE BOOKS AND I ALREADY ABSOLUTELY ADORED HIM

[@FelisImpurrator]

Someone on the writing team: Flames? Wars? Ares would be all over that shit!

[@Dino-god69]

@@_-drowsy-_ honestly he’s very good. I really hope we get to Heroes of Olympus and he gets to play Mars.

[@Dakguire]

Casting Edge as Ares was absolutely genius. Even without the CGI fire eyes, Edge brought that great eye expression to Ares

[@Dino-god69]

Probably saving it for the showdown

[@TypicalCowpoke]

I hope he does a spear for some reason

[@LupinKing]

​@@TypicalCowpokeI'm many months late, and haven't seen the show - but if he hits a spear even once, I'm paying for Disney Plus and binge watching the season!

[@TypicalCowpoke]

He didn't hit a spear sadly

[@dylanarmitage684]

I would love to see edge hit a spear on someone it would be great avestus what are you going to do ares ares I'm going to do this hits a spear and saves Aphroditie then hits another spear on percy just for the hell of it

[@randomuser1093]

Yeah I feel the spider section is really important for Annabeth, since it’s the first time she is actually scared of something (I think)

[@syegfryedhellscream9508]

The problem with that is, its not the politic of disney to make female characters with flaws or show vulnerability. You may think I'm talking nonsense, but it's a pattern with disney shows/movies. You can see trough all the episodes show they only praise Annabeth, saying she is the best and amazing, how alleto said she is the most outstanding demigod alive or some shit, like how? Why? She never went on a mission nor had any big achievements, It should be Luke who replicated one of the Hercules labors and is the best swordman in the camp

[@roguevirgo902]

⁠@@syegfryedhellscream9508that whole paragraph is literally just nonsense. She is literally told how she fucks up by sending medusas head off, her flaw is her pride and how she was too stuck in the ways of the godly world. Even all the other shows on Disney their female characters have flaws

[@marsultor762]

IMO the problem with that is that its too specific. If the trap as created for Aphrodite and Ares, why would there be a spider trap?

[@Mary_Studios]

That! They had Ares mention that she doesn't seem to be afraid of anything and I thought for sure that it was setting up where we see what she's afraid of.

[@syegfryedhellscream9508]

@@roguevirgo902 how the fuck she fucked up when it was PERCY WHO SEND IT? Athena is mad at her for something She didn't do it. Literally absolving her from the blame my guy

[@bluezilla2547]

Adam Copeland is the name of Aries' actor. He's been a professional wrestler for decades and considered one of the greatest of all time with how crazy some of his matches went. Still wrestles but is looking to retire soon but if people are liking his acting this much then hopefully he can transition to being one full time so his body can finally move away from crazy bumps and injuries.

[@AphiosLol]

You love to see Edge/Adam Copeland still on tv lol

[@SkatingLion]

Lol I was wondering if that was edge in the thumbnail.

[@thezenlu]

He did act for a bit during his time away from wrestling. He became a regular on the show Haven on Syfy... I forgot what else he's done... but yeah you can tell he was enjoying himself

[@ashyflame]

I bet they are gonna let Ares use wrestling moves on Percy

[@wasifalam802]

I like how you don't critique on the difference between the books and show but rather the missed opportunities of what the show isn't taking and how you have really good constructive criticism.

[@kaylahopper9351]

Yess I love that he does that!

[@RabbiB0Y]

that's not how criticism works you don't criticise a show by whats not in it but rather what is so both ways are bad

[@xscape1749]

@@RabbiB0YYh but it seems like that’s how most ppl are critiquing the show (especially on tik tok)

[@gilgameshkingofheroes5903]

​@@RabbiB0Y Uhm, yes you can definitly point out things they should have done.

[@gamingman5453]

@@RabbiB0Ypointing out things they should have done to make it better is criticism.

[@thegreatmonacage3782]

Hermes being at a casino is almost perfect. Considering he's a god of theives and merchants, gambling would fall under his domain. Nevermind the trickster side to his personality.

[@edoardoprevelato6577]

Hermes is canonically the god of gambling.

[@edoardoprevelato6577]

@@xxmoonflowers30 would that be considered passive cheating?

[@edoardoprevelato6577]

@@xxmoonflowers30 well, he's Hermes. He's totally going to do that. I imagine the Lotus Casino has a "just let him take x drachmas per night" policy.

[@theanimeunderworld8338]

Ares was my favorite in this episode. The actor is great in his portrayal Grover and Ares talking was something unexpected yet surprising since Grover talked about wars involving nature I'm surprised Heph showed up since we didn't get an announcement of his actor

[@kozygeorg]

We did get an announcement about timothee omundson

[@Iwillone]

I know him as the rated R superstar Edge.

[@ryanbradley3293]

His actor has been announced for about a year

[@12Chris6]

You spelled Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuperstar wrong@@Iwillone

[@samurexatlas7373]

He was in the credits, which seems to have things exclusively from the show. Which means that eye is gonna be important.

[@max_kirchi_fca]

I could imagine Grover framing Clarisse as the thief, them telling it to Luke in the next episode, so giving him more time to plan, while also creating more tension between the characters for SoM and using that as a reason for Clarisse to go on her quest alone

[@humairahkazi2459]

Thats interesting. I hadnt thought about that. Them thinking its clarisse seems plausible at this time, and it would have consequences, but only if she finds out. I dont know how that would happen. Do they tell luke and lukes just like, "yo, clarisse! These guys think youre a traitor! Ok, have a good day, bye!" That seems kind of wierd. I guess they could also have clarisse overhear the conversation? I dunno. But it would be an interesting plot point if they can figure out how to do that.

[@Q33Rwitch]

That is such a good idea!

[@er_ik-kj9vd]

But if Grover thinks that clarisse stole it for ares they have no reason to go to hades right??

[@konstantink07]

​@@er_ik-kj9vdI mean, Sally is still there

[@BananaWasTaken]

Well done.

[@BlazeDupree1525]

I kinda wished the kept the scene how it was in the book. In the book the Amusement park was such a huge character bonding moment between the trio. Percy learning about Annabeth's extreme fear of spiders, grover saving them and showing his bravery and quick thinking. Hephaestus making a public spectical of the whole situation. It would have given grover a lot more Agency then him brown nosing Ares.

[@dariusporter358]

While it doesn’t necessarily show his bravery, Grover’s scene with Ares shows his quick thinking.

[@BlazeDupree1525]

@@dariusporter358 yeah but if Grover saved Percy and Annabeth here it probably would have helped Percy build more trust in him as well as show the viewers that Grover is actually a decent friend and protector. Especially after they botched his character and made him betray Percy in the first episode. Percy only brought him because he thinks he will betray him again. This would have shown Percy that he was wrong about him.

[@BananaWasTaken]

@@BlazeDupree1525(in the show) Percy didn’t bring Grover because he thinks he’ll betray him. He brought Grover since he trusted him to not betray him (which is what he said). Although they haven’t really shown us much reason for Percy to trust him in the show.

[@BlazeDupree1525]

@@BananaWasTaken the issue with the show is they expect the viewer to already have read the books and already know the context and relationships. So they cut a lot of the character building out.

[@BananaWasTaken]

@@BlazeDupree1525 true

[@NINJAfries07]

I’m a little surprised that you didn’t mention anything about The Fates showing up in a completely different time and place from the book. They also didn’t have their fruit stand, and Percy never even saw them. Also, the preview after the credits did contain at least one shot with a collection of animals, so… make of that what you will.

[@Drazil232]

tbh I don't really mind Annabeth seeing the fates instead of Percy. The books are written from his perspective, so it makes sense he sees them, but for a show it makes sense to give all the protags we follow moments like that

[@NottSaying]

@@Drazil232 Plus which Spoilers for what it means btw Annabeth is also there when Luke dies

[@CommanderSteelTrap]

Yeah, Ares is my favourite character now. Never read the book so I have no clue what happens with him, but at the moment he’s my favourite.

[@_-drowsy-_]

he’s still one of my Favorites in the book, but I honestly think he’s a lot better here

[@humairahkazi2459]

No one give any spoilers to this innocent soul. This one deserves peace, at least for now.

[@_-drowsy-_]

@@humairahkazi2459 I won’t ❤️

[@All-ze9cl]

I hated him in the books but love him here, they made him much more likable

[@anamazing2297]

From what I remember in the books, Ares is the type of character you love to hate. He's the butt of many jokes throughout the series, iirc.

[@chasema479]

They should hire this man for all the little details in percy jackson

[@Unknown69846]

😂 he would prob still have some probs with the ep

[@kentrosaurusboi3909]

At least someone cares about the little things, that what sets the atmosphere and tone for the aeries

[@salarzx62090]

No

[@RubidiumMoon]

I’m not going to lie, I’m a bit nervous of how they’ll handle the more mature books especially Titan’s Curse and Last Olympian. Like Lightning Thief has moments but not nearly as many as TC and LO.

[@RubidiumMoon]

And I think we can forget about a Heroes of Olympus show if it’s handled by Disney. No way they do House of Hades.

[@giod5723]

​@@RubidiumMoonI've only read the first heroes of olympus book, why would adapting house of hades be a problem?

[@hikari9262]

If this becomes a hit, they will definitely get a bigger budget. That's what happened with Game of Thrones S1 and S2. All fight scenes happen off screen, because budget.

[@rhmb1019]

@@giod5723house of hades is widely regarded as one of Ricks best works, so I don’t want to spoil it for you but it gets very dark

[@giod5723]

@@rhmb1019 i see

[@Kirusei]

One thing I have been thinking about is how Percy's character finally changes when Poseidon finally interacts with him by saving him from the chimera. Until then, it was a rollercoaster for Percy and I think was probably what it would've realistically felt like for him before Poseidon's interaction which seemed to "clear his mind" Also I love Timothy Omundson, was fun to watch him play Lassiter in Psych

[@thiagozakaitis5850]

Honestly, I see what they were trying to do with the whole throne scene and Hephaestus on the tunnel, but I think it was done so much better on the book. Not only because of the spiders as you have mentioned on the video, but also because on the scene where they are escaping from the tunnel, we see Percy and Annabeth working together, where Percy uses his newly found water powers and Annabeth shows her strategic mindset to tell Percy what to do. It was awesome on the books, but apparently we can't have fun or epic scenes on this show.

[@Nani.101]

I rolled my eyes so hard when we got .2 seconds of Percy using his powers, and then it cuts to them out of the water with Annabeth saying "did you just lift me out?".. ya know, instead of showing us 😃

[@centuritron]

I love how Percy interrupted Annabeth. It showed how he actually does know about this world

[@gIyph_]

Yea, up to this point its been weird cuz like, Percy has meant to have grown up with these stories and know them well, but constantly has no clue whats going on and has to have things explained to him that he shouldnt, so its nice to see him actually figure something outbon his own

[@tylerwilson2515]

Walker had said in an interview about most fun scenes he said crusty waterbeds! So hopefully that means procrustes will be in a short segment right before the underworld

[@tobiasgreenhalge6165]

Ares was really fun to see, and I also liked the design of Hephestus

[@nicholasjohnson7786]

I prefer the spiders to the throne, and also you get to see all three of them working together to survive the ride.

[@Lupinemancer87]

Yeah, but this is Disney, we can't have female characters have feelings, they can't have emotions, they can't have weaknesses.

[@maryssaflynn3208]

She had feelings this episode but I agree she wasn't allowed to have her weakness, they also gave her the meeting with the fates about the warn being cut. I'm shocked themyrhiligy guy doesn't point this out. ​@@Lupinemancer87

[@samurexatlas7373]

Thanks to the preview, it seems Percy is running from the security at Lotus. So maybe he still figures it out? All Ares said about Hermes is, he likes to be in Vegas.

[@ReluctantWarrior]

Which makes sense, god of luck and all.

[@_jpg]

​@@ReluctantWarrior Rather gamblers, Tycho is responsible for luck 😅

[@ReluctantWarrior]

@@_jpg There's still some overlap, since gambling usually involves some degree of luck.

[@jeffreygao3956]

HAMILTON!

[@brucemartin1420]

I think as the show goes it’s going to get better everybody in the cast will get more comfortable with their roles and the feedback from the audience will also help im excited to see how it evolves

[@SebasTian58323]

Yeah, in the book when they trigger the trap Hephaestus laid a ton of mechanical spiders are rushing out and laying down metal wedding to capture what's supposed to be Ares or Aphrodite and Annabeth is practically catatonic from the fear and Percy uses his water powers to summon water to push the love boat. He later correctly guessed it was due to the arachne story and uses the fear to get Annabeth out of the lotus hotel and casino

[@ohifonlyx33]

I agree with you on so much about the lost potential and short episodes. I have such mixed feelings about this show, but the energy that episode 5 was giving was FINALLY the PJO that I know. Chaotic confusion, bizarre quests, snappy wit, heartfelt character moments, etc. Ares was actually right out of the book. And despite the changes, I can see how "Now broadcasting live to Olympus TV!" might have been a bit cheesy for the series and I can accept the changes, but I agree they should have stuck in a scene with the spiders. I really enjoyed Percabeth, although it did feel more like book 2 or 3 level development to me.

[@unarealtaragionevole]

The relationship between Zeus and Ares has always confused me. Zeus hates Ares and makes certain everyone knows it. And it sort of makes sense as Ares is the eldest male son of Zeus and Hera, therefore the rightful heir to Olympus. If there's one thing Zeus hates, it's any threat to his power and authority. With the Greek tradition of sons replacing their fathers, the idea of the God of War being your son would scare Zeus, especially with a wife like Hera. Also they're opposites. Zeus for all his faults believes in order, laws, justice, and creation. Ares is all about chaos, domination, and destruction. The last type of character he would want to pass the throne to. But in every story Zeus kills anyone or anything that poses a challenge to him or even a potential challenge to him. Even mortals who might rise to levels of power near the gods he strikes down. But he keeps Ares around. Seems like the one person Zeus would have killed from the start to me. Just another Greek mystery.

[@davidfromm]

Consideration towards Hera. One of the few facts in the myths that hint that Zeus does love Hera is that both Ares and Hephaestus have some immunity in the pantheon. Ares for all his roughness and bloodthirstiness, still has a place and a voice in Olympus. Hephaestus was banished from Olympus by Zeus and was welcomed back. All because they are Hera's sons.

[@_-drowsy-_]

maybe he recognizes his importance?-

[@johnyshadow]

Isn't this basically the reason Kronos ate his children? Maybe Zeus just doesn't want to be like his father in that way.

[@upgoop1021]

According to 'pj n th greek gods', ares is zeus' least favorite divine son. Despite this, he was given a place on th olympian ruling council due to his parentage

[@unarealtaragionevole]

@@davidfromm Well it depends on the stories. For example, Hephaestus may or may not be Zeus' son. Personally, I prefer the version were he is not because it makes more sense to me as it aligns more with the early and classical Greek culture's descriptions for the gods. One of the biggest disconnects between our modern image of the Greek gods and the classical Greeks is how they look. To early and classical Greek cultures, they saw the gods as the epitome of physical perfection. We often make the gods, especially the older six (Hestia, Demeter, Hera, Hades, Poseidon, Zeus) as middle to later aged humans. Zeus is this older man with white hair and a white beard, but that's not how the classical Greeks saw him. All of the gods were young, healthy, and beautiful. They didn't grow old or change from their physical prime. That's why Hephaestus' deformity is a really big deal. It says something about him, or his story, is abnormal. His deformity was the result of Hera's bumbled attempt to "make" a god in retaliation for Zeus' having Athena from Metis. But were Zeus didn't 'try' to make Athena (she was a passive result of him consuming Metis)...Hera did actively 'try' to make Hephaestus and was punished for it. Either version is sad for Hephaestus as he is always the laughing stock of the gods and forced to reside away from the others in his workshop on Olympus. Did Zeus love Hera? That's a great question. As crazy as it sounds, I would like to think there was love on some level. Hera didn't really get a choice in the matter. And I think we can all agree that while Zeus was the king of the gods........well.....he was Zeus. Not winning any husband or father of the year awards. ;o)

[@needahobby6830]

i think most of the money for each episode will go to the episodes about the Underworld and the finale.

[@beastlymarek]

I said in the first reviews that the pacing was due to needing to get into the quest portion, and that they’d slow down during the quest, and I’m so happy I was right!

[@just.jo.no.one.else1]

Very much agree that an animated series would be a great medium to adapt the Percy Jackson series into! I never really thought about it a whole lot, but it's a good point. Especially considering it was already adapted into a graphic novel, which could possibly serve as a foundation of sorts for an artistic style or even just overall visual choices to go for if a team wanted to use them in that way.

[@Nero-sFlint]

The thing that irritated me the most in this episode, and it is something I greatly dislike in the books as well, it's Ares's relationship with his children. Of all the negative traits that Ares has in the myths, Rick gave him the only one that the god of war most certainly does not have, that being making Ares an abusive father. Like I get it making the Titans one-note villains, they were the main bad guys in the story, even though every piece of Greek mythology, and even Roman mythology, presents the Titans, except Kronos, in a positive light, sometimes they're presented as even better to humans than the Olympians, but there is no reason to do the same to Ares.

[@soedragons3582]

Didn't Ares have a few myths where he goes to kill some random hero who killed one of his kids (who happens to be a fucking psycho) ony to be thwarted by Athena helping said hero?

[@Nero-sFlint]

@@soedragons3582 Twice, Heracles once killed Ares's son, and when Ares tried to take revenge Athena blocked his blow and helped Heracles defeat him. Another time, I don't remember if it was Heracles in this too, but, one time one of his sons was about to lose a wrestling match and be killed, and when Ares tried to save him, Athena physically held him back so he couldn't get to him in time.

[@All-ze9cl]

Yeah, Ares was very stereotypical. The gods personalities were pretty one dimensional, but I think it worked since it was a kids book, and it worked because it made us not really like the gods, which is good bc they aren't good people to their kids. But Ares in pjo is nothing like the myths. My only question is, if a second season happens, are they going to keep the Ares abusing Clarisse plotline? I'm sure he will be dissapointed in her, but in 2024 I doubt they would make him sexist and physically abusive. Also, show Ares is much more likable than book Ares, who was just a complete ass the whole time. So i have a feeling they are going to tone down his hatred for Clarisse. I hope they don't completely get rid of it though, because It made us sympathize with a character who seemed pretty one dimensional from her first introduction.

[@sonofcronos7831]

Even Kronos was not that bad. Heck, at least two greeks (Pindar and maybe Aeschylus) believed that Cronus was made the ruler of the island of the Blessed. And people activaly worshipped Cronos in ancient greece, and especially in Rome. The other titans however were not viewed in positive light. Iapetus for example is considered a very violent enemy of Zeus, and all of his sons were enemies of Zeus too (Atlas, Menoitios, Prometheus and Epimetheus). And the word "titan" was generally used to refer to a violent being in ancient greece, they even said the barbaric people from Thrace were descended from the blood of the Titans. So actually Cronus was viewed in a more positive light when separated from the other titans, but the titans as a collective were viewed in a negative light.

[@pallydan893]

@@sonofcronos7831 I'd suggest double checking your information because there are two deities you could be referring to; Cronus the Titan and Chronos the Primordial God of time

[@godzillakingofthemonsters54]

You know, Mythology Guy. Hephastus doesn't match his picture in the credits. The credits show him as a hunchback long-haired guy, but in the episode, he just looks like a stereotypical steampunk inventor. Also, maybe Ares will get his eye fires when he gets really, really angry.

[@Dino-god69]

Yeah they’ll probably use it for that moment on the beach when you know who says you know what 😂

[@Dino-god69]

I know it’s probably weird but that moment at the end of TLF has stuck with me for thirteen years now since I first read it. The way it’s written is fuckin awesome and I really hope they put their all into it

[@ellielovegood6307]

I love how Ares is a internet troll, it’s so in character

[@idongesitusen5764]

The Grover-Ares scenes were basically your therapy sketches but better. Loved the Annabeth development.

[@cjcannady4287]

Edge plays Aries in the tv show he did a fantastic job excellent

[@dylantennant6594]

One question: where are the spiders? That’s a huge part of Annabeth’s character in the book. The last chapter showed Annabeth’s interests and hopes, this was supposed to show she can be vulnerable and afraid. And it makes sense knowing both her parentage and (albeit it’s in the later books) her trauma as a child, leading one of the reasons she left home.

[@andicaina2007]

you're repeating stuff he said in the video...

[@nicoleterego]

Rick actually mentioned it already in his post from Thread. Check it out.

[@jeffreygao3956]

George Washington: First time?

[@professorbutters]

I think the spiders are gone because a lot of people other than Annabeth have a phobia of spiders. They just thought maybe it wouldn’t work very well. I do get what you’re saying in terms of how it’s important with Annabeth, and maybe they can work with that later, but zillions of mechanical spiders might have been overwhelming.

[@lucasvandecasteele9904]

Now i think about it, i would love to see a movie where Hepheastus is the "bad" guy and rebel, given how he is treated by the other gods. And with how smart he is, he could be dangerous, creating weapons and traps

[@n_ot1941]

Because they are adding things latter on like the fates, the spider thing will probably come back latter.

[@VonOutlaw]

You are partially right about the spiders, it wasn't real living spiders but Hephaestus metal spiders that he created

[@666gotcha]

I liked the book ending to The Thrill Ride O’ Love better. When Percy tells Annabeth that they have to jump the fence on his signal, to avoid to get smashed, Annabeth says on her signal. It is the first time we see Percy really trust Annabeth. I would have liked to see that.

[@Dookieman1975]

Really love how AREEESSS looks like a punisher villain especially with that absurd chad chin

[@wellintentionedproductions2827]

Copeland absolutely delivered today. So hoped he would.

[@edoardoprevelato6577]

He just had to be Edge. He basically trained for this role for 20 years.

[@Dino-god69]

@@edoardoprevelato6577he didn’t really feel like Edge tho. Just me I guess. I mean yeah when he got angry, but that was about it.

[@historiaenmascarada4558]

I know this is out of context but, have you heard the EPIC musical? I mean they have only three albums on Spotify by now. The musical is about the Odyssey of Homero and is one of the bests musicals I have heard (after Hamilton and The Phantom of the Opera). They are going to realize the Circe saga (which is the fourth saga) on February, and MAN you have to heard this! The musical is going to have 9 sagas. I really recommend you this and i will love to know what you think of the musical. PS: If you want, the fans make animations of the musical so you can see it as a movie... well they don't have all the songs but... yeah

[@cosmicriptid]

Something about the cadence and exact sound of Ares' voice reminded me of Tony Stark.

[@anzar007]

I wait for your reviews more than the actual Episodes! 😊

[@Steve_is_a_Stick]

Aryan already confirmed that Procrustus is gonna be in the show

[@Jeezy_783]

Maybe Grover will say he thinks it may be Kronos who stole the bolt because in the book they do start questioning if it really was Hades who stole the bolt and they do start to think that maybe it was someone more ancient like Kronos

[@LunarJeishin]

I think Grover will think it's Clarisse

[@jonasleibowitz6982]

I think he’s gonna say Hermes, since he’s the god of thieves and it would add more tension to the next episode

[@_jpg]

That would make for a really bad reveal...like...is he even really alive? And how would Grover know?

[@johnvaughan6323]

Dude so many words to say about your channel but all in short, your channel scratches such a specific itch I have had ever since my childhood. A very fun way to learn more of Greek mythology while also shitting on directors who themselves shit on the source material. Would love to see some videos covering the events of the actual stories like the The Odyssey, you enthusiasm is contagious!

[@humairahkazi2459]

Im so glad you mentioned the spider scene. I think in the book, it was really significant bc it was the first time percy and the readers saw past annabeths shell. Especially bc in the book, the scene where she tells him about her father and step mom doesn't happen until the zoo truck. It let us see that she isn't invincible, and that she actually has one very common fear, tho ofc it's dialed up to extreme levels bc of her parentage. Its her forst moment of true vulnerability, like you said. I didnt even think about the possiblity of including that and the throne scene as well, but i think that would have been great. Also, the seaweed brain drop was just perfect. Chefs kiss. ❤ they handled that much better than "you drool when you sleep" imo.

[@suryatejaaddanki4649]

Ok, I'm all for girl power and all that stuff, but are they really going through the story of the first book saying that Annabeth is the strongest and numerous monsters offering to barter with her and also the term "Perseus jackson son of Poseidon" transformed to "Annabeth chase daughter of Athena", not exactly what happened but you get my point. And come on Percy was not this passive in the books either, especially in the arch scene one of the actual best moments is when he decides to save everyone for the first time not just grover and annabeth, he for the frist time thinks not of his mother but the lives of people in arch. Oh and where did the being afraid of water come from, tht is not ever a thing.

[@geniusgamerr4517]

Nah more like Pussy Jackson and Annabeth the show

[@longforgotten4823]

It’s Disney so yeah

[@cosmicriptid]

I wish they had included the spiders. To have a character who is so unflinching just come apart in fear, and have Percy need to step up. Annabeth is ashamed, but Percy doesn't care. You could even have her using her panic as a reason to sacrifice herself, while Percy is like hey that's just human, whereas Annabeth has faced unreasonable demands for perfection her entire life.

[@annaptakova3242]

I agree with this, especially with the spiders and Grover apparently figuring out who has the bolt, that worries me too. But what I don't understand is - as much as they seem to be cheap on the effects, like the eyes, thousands of spiders and so on, it costs literally nothing to have the actor not be wet. One of the main points in the books is that Percy has to focus to get wet. He can just be walking in and out of bodies of water completely dry so what is the damn point of having the actor drenched in water, I am so confused, maybe I'm missing something, but we didn't even see him get out of the river so why?!

[@lincolngravemann682]

When your review of episode 4 came out I hadn't read any of the books I had only seen the movies and then right after I saw your episode 4 review I came across an audio book version of Percy Jackson and the lightning thief and I really enjoyed it I have now finished the Sea of monsters and the Titan's curse and I am part of the way through battle of the labyrinth

[@ImIndavyjoneslocker]

one of my biggest wishes was that they would’ve done the purple fire in his eyes for dionysus & the fire in ares eyes. it literally just needed to be a flash, a few seconds showing that

[@ImIndavyjoneslocker]

remember how in the books percy learns who dionysus is bcos he was lowkey disrespecting mr d & when his eyes went purple with flames he was showing percy all the non believers mr d has killed, & then percy instantly starts treating him with respect (or as much respect you can expect from percy lol). why couldn’t they have done it the same way in the show? instead of the “percy this is dionysus”. i just don’t get how riordan approved all of this, like doesn’t he realize 90% of the book ‘scenes’ are better than the show counterpart? just rambling about it i know but it must be that he doesn’t have as big of a hand in the show as i originally thought, or maybe he just isn’t built for screenplays, although the first half of episode 1 was almost as good as the book

[@jakob1840]

Amazing content as always 🥳

[@benbolden3903]

Maybe Ares is the mastermind behind all these change to create the great PJO War

[@dailyplanet354]

They're doing my boy Grover dirty in this show. They even gave his hugging Percy to Annabeth in this episode.Why?

[@thomascampbell3469]

Considering (in my opinion) the animated star wars shows are able to connect with me in a way I find the recent live action stuff does not, I totally agree that an animated show could have been great! I also totally agree it is just getting better and better. Makes me hopeful moving forward that a lot of setup was pushed early on so the pace could be good for the rest of the series. Not a great decision but if that's the direction then the following seasons even I think could be even better.

[@TheIndianDeity]

Commenting because you’ve said this in multiple episodes, but the budget definitely isn’t 15 million per episode. It’s never been confirmed, just a rumor that got circulated at the same time as the rumor that each episode was an hour long… Disney hasn’t given an actual number but from the look of things they’re probably playing it safe for season 1, since their biggest non-marvel/star wars show (as Becky said on social media), and I’m guessing the budget is much lower than 15 mil.

[@Rizzzzzzzzzzzzler]

Point is they have a huge budget. Comparable to game of thrones and other shows like that, he is just saying that those shows made more use out of their budget

[@hikari9262]

​@@RizzzzzzzzzzzzlerYeah, GOT season 1 and 2 budget probably, where fight and war scenes happen off screen. We all know it's a fact. They got an increased budget because it became a hit, so fight scenes are now shown in full on screen.

[@CrazyGamingYT56]

Love your content keep up the great work

[@CursedKelpie]

I'd just like to say I don't like how Annabeth is in the show, She's the "pride of Athena" at age 12 and having never gone on a quest before? and she's stupid enough to have an attitude with Ares himself, I thought she was supposed to be the smart one. are they just doing black girl with an attitude, really? Percy is supposed to be the reckless one and Annabeth is the smart one, how is Percy being more respectful of Ares then Annabeth is???

[@miguelsanchezamor3498]

Exactly and removing the spiders is a big mistake actually not only character development but relationship devolvement completely miss

[@florianbarkowski6856]

Yeah I think Annabeth and grover do not really catch me as of yet. Maybe it us because direction, but added to the fact, that i picture Annabeth differently the not great chemistry of the Trio does not really do it as of yet. I feel like the Percy actor has his moments but the script sometimes hinders him protraying percy more accuaretly. In general i feel like their characters do not have the same feel to them like in the books, but let's see how it develops.

[@catsual_gamer]

Ares was probably the best part of the episode, and im6saying this as someone who was so excited for the love ride thing because I remember it being very fun in the book (at the very least because Percy and Annabeth's relationship is nowhere near the point where going on a ride like that wouldn't be awkward, which was kinda lost in the show), and I'm genuinely concerned where this is going. I might be wrong, because I don't remember the scene from the book to a T, but wasn't the whole thing about it being a trap for Ares and Aphrodite, not Percy and Annabeth? Because I definitely remember the thing with the net, and the cameras, and it all being broadcast on Olympus TV or whatever, and it was a fun little moment when Hephaestus realised he's caught the wrong folks... So, why do the gods make things complicated specifically for Percy and Annabeth? Aren't they the ones who sent them on the quest to get the Bolt? Also, Hephaestus reusing his own old trap for someone else entirely feels diminishing to his whole I Live In A Volcano And Build Things kinda vibe. Wouldn't Aphrodite know this chair if the trap was intended for her? So yeah the whole break in this story feels very off and confusing and might be the sign of a bigger issue coming up starting with what in Hades is Hermes doing at the Lotus casino, that's definitely not the way they got there, it just feels like for the show they took, like, top-7 (museum, camp, garden gnome emporium, that arch thing, love ride, lotus casino, Hades) most iconic locations from the book and just pinball the trio between them without bothering to add the actual ways and reasons they went there in the books. And yeah, they're probably going to say Clarisse stole the Bolt because she is a bully and we should pin the red-herring antagonist badge to the most obvious candidate, and then it's not going to lead to anything, because they're going to Hades for Percy's mom anyway and will find out that the theory was wrong... Please, at least don't butcher Hades and Persephone, please, please, pleeeease...

[@aprilhippie8752]

6:12 Yes I was so sad they didn't add that it gave some depth to Annabeths character but they were like Yeah Nah 😅 maybe the scriptwriter really really hates spiders 😂 Ans yeah these episodes are wayyyyyyyyyyy to short. Thats probably why some moments are rushed they're just cramming it all in in such a small time frame

[@superdbsfan8670]

Ares was my favorite part of this episode and it has a nice emotional range. I was laughing at points and then having my heart tugged at parts

[@GabbyP2010]

This episode was so good!! It’s kinda accurate to the book too!!

[@sakurap95]

I think they left Ares eyes because it made him more human. We can see his ego in his eyes. Plus, he’s a god, he can change his appearance whenever he wants. I think they’re saving the fire for later on. (You know, you know). ⚔️

[@vaayuo]

Im kinda mad that percy gets wet in water still , he should not! He should realise his powers Hopefully they do it in the next episode Thats said i think the rest of episode was stellar

[@virginiamcdaniel7248]

Having watched beyond ep.3 now, I definitely agree that it is getting better. Like I said before with one of your previous videos, the changes don’t bother me as much as long as the core of the story and the characterisation is accurate. Who Percy is and how he responds to the world around him is the most integral part of the story. I was ecstatic during the Arch scene when Percy makes the swap. I had the exact response the Mythology Guy did: “There’s Percy!” I know some people mentioned that the scene took a bit of agency from Percy where he falls rather than making the choice to jump, but you have to also remember that the way the show told that part, the mortals were already gone. That being said, I do understand that it also takes away a bit of his character development with Ares taunting him later about his cowardice. Who knows? Grover and Annabeth mention him being scared in earlier episodes. Maybe we’ll get something later from that. Another thing to remember about his character too for all those talking about Percy’s bravery and how he was badass later is that Percy’s bravery has never really come from the whole “I have to do this as the hero. It’s my responsibility to the world.” This isn’t Avatar: The Last Airbender. Percy does not have a responsibility to the world, really, and quite frankly, it’s a very secondary motivation and a reluctant one, at that. So, the whole “we have to save the world” thing with the lightning bolt is definitely one of my “really?” complaints about the show currently. And yes, I know those are the stakes in the first book, but it isn’t really one that Percy is as concerned about aside from towards the end when he’s like “great, this war is going to happen and it’s going to be my fault. Wonderful.” But I digress. Percy’s moments of bravery have always been in connection to saving someone else. He doesn’t think about being brave. Actually, 9 times out of 10 in the books, someone is usually following up with something along the lines of “that was reckless and stupid. What on Earth were you thinking?!” Or “what the heck happened?” At the end of TLT, he sacrifices his opportunity to make sure his friends get out of the Underworld. In TTC, he’s the one distracting the Nemean Lion so everyone else can get away, and then at the end, he reluctantly accepts the burden of the Great Prophecy to prevent Nico from having to worry about it. Come BotL and he’s sacrificing himself by distracting the Telkines so Annabeth can get away. That part of his character has been there from the start and I’m so glad we’re getting to see it because it also is providing the show, not tell aspect that will hopefully eventually lead into the fatal flaws conversations and realisation we get later. I’m also glad we’re starting to see Percy’s intelligence shine through because he IS. Annabeth has even said he is. A lot of times though he is reckless and impulsive. Also, I do like that even though (since this is a show) we don’t have Percy’s internal thoughts about his mom over the course of the story that helps cement her as his primary motivation, we’re seeing it in other ways like the Greek myths and her telling him stories about them being an driving factor in his character in the story. I do still wish Grover and Percy’s relationship was presented better and that we got more of Luke and Percy bonding since we didn’t get much of that. Also, side note: hoping for the future that Percy’s water powers are not just going to be breathing underwater and the whirlpool thing, especially considering the big bonding moment he and Annabeth have come SoM. I know it may be a bit difficult potentially, but the whirlpool thing to get Annabeth out of the water in the Tunnel of Love was just a little weird to me. Annabeth casually talking about architecture was also just such a great thing for me and then her conversation about about how much she looked up to Thalia and how strong she was. That was also a definite “there’s Annabeth!” moment for me. Also, Leah facial acting in this episode and the last with when Percy offers up his sword is excellent! The first time, you can definitely see she’s grateful but also thinking “demigods shouldn’t give up their weapons” and the second in the Tunnel of Love ride when you can visibly see her remembering what happened the last time Percy gave her his sword. I’m also strangely liking how bold Grover’s character is with his interactions with Ares, I’m just really not a fan of how the had him betray Percy in the beginning. Also, aren’t Percy and Grover supposed to have some kind of empathic connection? I definitely can’t see these two having that at all.

[@Isaacthebiggestmoviefan57]

This is my favorite Episode because it was really good and the part When Percy sits on the chair and he Turns to Gold gave me chills

[@Rizzzzzzzzzzzzler]

Solid 7/10 episode! Best one so far hopefully things continue to improve, I have the show at a solid 6/10 right now!

[@rudzanimunyai2090]

6/10 is ruthless, come in the the show is great overall.

[@MiguelPlata26]

Nah for me it is also 6/10. The quality is not there, and for having a good budget, the show is not a good adaptation.

[@jacobmiller2663]

⁠@@MiguelPlata26buddy the whole thing about 15 million dollar budget, was based on a rumor, it’s definitely lower than people think. And many people say otherwise about it not being a good adaptation. You clearly already made up your mind about the series before it aired and now you’re just complaining for the sake of it.

[@MiguelPlata26]

​​@@jacobmiller2663 Actually you're assuming a lot here, do You know me o can read my mind?. I did want to like the show, but It was impossible. However I am not a mindless drone who just accepts anything just because me author is involved in it. J.K. Rowling butchered her own universe as well thinking she could be a script writer or a producer. Maybe You need to go back to school and re-train Your critical thinking skills.

[@jacobmiller2663]

@@MiguelPlata26 I could care less if the original creator or author was involved in the production and writing of their series on TV😂, that doesn’t guarantee anything. The reason you clearly made up your mind before the series because you talked about casting in another comment thread and how you disliked it, so you already wasn’t gonna like the series since you had a distaste for the casting. You’re still just a mindless drone who just hates for the small things. And If you have to insult someone in a disagreement, you already lost.😂

[@brocky3498]

i agree with most of what you say as an avid reader. but you just said about grover knowing or thinking he knows. For the new audience this will mislead them and make the twist bigger. Its not for the people like us. BUT i personally wish they just stuck to the books. all of it. and think that sticking to the books would have made a bigger impact even on new watchers to the series

[@heliotikis]

I’m worried it’s either going to ruin the twist or potentially make Grover look like an idiot.

[@calebhill7717]

I find it hilarious how if you look at the thumbnails of each video you can see almost like a story of him watching this show

[@unikracoon1913]

I really liked the scene where Ares finds them next to the road, The cinematography was neat

[@JustACactus616]

I was disappointed about no fire eyes since the trailer, but I can definitely say they couldn’t choose a better actor

[@user-ug7xo1by2y]

Waiting patiently for the 6th episode review🙏

[@mikew4022]

Me too

[@ftf7629]

This guy feels exactly how I do. I simply didn’t think the first couple episodes were good but this episode was really good and got me excited for the rest

[@ezekielmills7553]

I Loved the Krusty's waterbed emporium in the books and how Percy got tricked them. I DO also predict he was getting cut unfortunately. Me and my brother were talking about how it should have been animated as well and each week is a reminder.

[@100iqgaming]

love the edition of Hephaestus, he didnt get enough time in the books i dont think because he was great

[@Jessidafennecfox]

Mr. D, Hermes, and Hephaestus are my favorites so far.

[@benwasserman8223]

I did expect Grover to be that manipulative against a god. Pretty sure if Clarisse was there, she’d be impressed with his cunning.

[@cosmicriptid]

I think the suspecting Clarrise thing might actually work out even better for next season, when they already have a bigger base of mistrust. It also worked well for the Luke reveal.

[@sunilsourapu3790]

I have always imagined an animated percy Jackson show

[@gaidencastro9706]

Maybe the writerd were still getting their footing on the first 3? Or the director got more control of the project after the first episodes showed promise.

[@chirayudesai793]

Yeah I do think it’s been getting better and better. The first 2-3 for me felt like a lot more exposition but now they’re getting a balance. Great casting imo.

[@EjayT06]

I didn’t even really think there was anything wrong with the first three. Just having a good time watching the show :)

[@noturbusiness9736]

Best episode so far IMO. Thought the conversation with Ares and Grover was a great addition (as well as the writing and portrayal of Ares) and my first impression regarding the ending cliffhanger was that Grover will blame Clarisse for stealing the bolt. I thought the depiction of Hephaestus’ story was well done as well as the inclusion of Hera’s throne. Loved the dynamics between all the characters this episodes. Oh and I really liked how Percy was super appreciative of his father for saving him and watching over him. Other than that, just the same (somewhat minor) criticisms that the episodes and show are too short, that certain things that were cut should have been included. This episode followed the pattern of seemingly neglecting action, in regards to Percy using his powers to help Annabeth out of the water. I don’t know if it was a budget, time, or cgi issue but it would be nice to see stuff like that play out.

[@brucemartin1420]

I feel like they’re trying to tell the story from Percy’s perspective. The first few episodes pacing was weird because that’s how it would flow to a kid with adhd and advanced battle strategies built in but no basis on how he can use them. If Percy used his water powers and didn’t exactly know how then it would kinda be a blur. I’m not sure where they are gonna take Grover’s theory on who took the bolt but I’m interested to see. Like mythologyguy said it could be a way to add tension to Clarrises character for next season

[@jasondaniel7380]

Adam Copeland aka Edge is Ares. I love it.

[@firelorddustin8518]

there's some clips from the next episode at the end of each episode, and for this one (a god buys us cheeseburgers) it does show the zoo animals in a brief shot

[@S-jw2wv]

I liked episodes 1-5, but just watched Ep 6 and now I'm annoyed by the changes. They have to shoe horn in corny ass LMM talking about how parenthood is hard. 😢 I'm interested to see your take on Ep 6 lol.

[@purpleclouds480]

IM SO HAPPY WE GOT ARES!

[@talon-xq6qh]

You are first good job

[@purpleclouds480]

@@talon-xq6qh oh thanks!

[@LaineyBug2020]

Oooh, I would have liked animation if it was in the syle of Arcane! (Seriously can't wait for November!)

[@DALOfficial]

I hope they add the fire eyes for his fight with Percy, like a part that starts when he's about to fight/go to war properly

[@razerclaw2438]

Ok my problem with this episode is Annabeth whole speech to Hephaestus about pride and the Gods. She doesn’t have this problem with Athena in the books, and Annabeth character is BUILT on pride. Like, she has a whole section in Sea of Monsters about how she’s too prideful. So her speech just interferes with her fatal flaw, which I really liked how every character had one.

[@benwasserman8223]

I think it’s more like being prideful in the Gods. Not in oneself. Annabeth is still very sure of herself to a fault - this IS someone who would rather have the Sphinx maul her than answer unchallenging SAT questions.

[@vaayuo]

​@@benwasserman8223 yes EXACTLY, she's still the wise girl with hubris we love , it's just that she's realising the error in the ways of Gods just a bit earlier.

[@razerclaw2438]

@@benwasserman8223 also I have another nitpick which this episode made me realize more so than 4 and that’s Percy and Annabeth’s whole relationship feels way to quick. The whole enemies to friend to lovers expanded over five books, like lightning ended with them SHAKING HANDS. I feel like this show not putting more moments of them bickering each other due to godly rival and slowing down is really gonna mess up something great they had in the book

[@emilyrae158]

i feel like it still shows her fatal flaw in that she thinks she has a chance to figure out the machine even though literally no one but hephaestus can including other gods. also this is how annabeth describes it in SOM and i think it aligns with her denouncing the gods for how they run things: “Hubris means deadly pride, Percy. Thinking you can do things better than anyone else ... even the gods.” “You feel that way?” She looked down. “Don’t you ever feel like, what if the world really is messed up? What if we could do it all over again from scratch? No more war. Nobody homeless. No more summer reading homework.” “I’m listening.” “I mean, the West represents a lot of the best things mankind ever did-that’s why the fire is still burning. That’s why Olympus is still around. But sometimes you just see the bad stuff, you know? And you start thinking the way Luke does: ‘If I could tear this all down, I would do it better.’ Don’t you ever feel that way? Like you could do a better job if you ran the world?”

[@MiguelPlata26]

Best episode so far, yet still a dissapointing adaptation. I'm considering reading all the three series again, knowing we might never going to have a decent adaptation.

[@antoniewilliams525]

Love the channel dude I am also a mythology nerd👍🏿👍🏿 I was curious as to what you thought about "Immortals"?

[@theanimelovingghost_4499]

I was waiting for this!

[@tufab3494]

I think that is weird that they insist to make scenes that are more complicated than what happens in the movies, just for them to turn out being mid. Very funny episode regardless, this is the only thing since Ahsoka that's made me really anxious for the next episode

[@neonicon8500]

I was going to get The Lightning Thief at Walmart yesterday, but it was based off the show with pictures of the show in it, so I decided against that. One of the pictures was Percy and Grover in the office and the caption was "Percy and his best friend, Grover..." and I was just like yeah...

[@2kool111]

I was just watching your other reactions!

[@nerds-nonsense]

we think you're definitely right about adding the spider scene from the book

[@pirate_Z]

At this point this series isn't even an adaptation of the books, is like a What If episode. So many changes from the books that it isn't even close to the story from the books.

[@limkailuen3022]

While I’m not a fan of the changes they made to the story , I don’t think the changes are that major like the movies that the whole plot deviates from the books narrative ,

[@Jess_200]

​@@limkailuen3022i guess depends on what you consider important, to me the changes are definitely mayor, I even feel that the movie kept the essence of the books more than the series (maybe because is been a while since I saw the movie)

[@limkailuen3022]

@@Jess_200 Oh i defintely disagree with that , whilst the series isn't as book accurate as i would have hoped , it still is miles more accurate than the movies

[@TheRealQuickSilver]

I agree that the show is starting to hit its stride with the characters and with the humor and such. I am still bummed that they chose to change each scene so much from the book, simply because I really wanted to see some of those things coming to life on the screen. But given the changes that they've made I'm happy that it's at least starting to feel like Percy and Annabeth (and Grover, but to a lesser extent), not just a bunch of totally new characters. I do hope that in future seasons we see a bit more of scenes taken straight from the books.

[@annabethchase_chb]

I think Procrustes is gonna be in the show! I think Walker and Aryan mentioned the water beds scene in an interview

[@_-drowsy-_]

I’m OBSESSED with ares and I can’t get enough I have to draw him he’s absolutely amazing I already loved him in the books but they gave him a little more chaotic energy and I LOVE the twitter war thing, that’s so fucking canon. The actor did great, the writers did great, just everything was GREAT.